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A massacre in Syria leaves up to 200 people dead, the UN says it's

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trying to get observers into the village.

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We will seek verification of facts. If and when there is a credible

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ceasefire. A train hits a truck carrying farm

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workers in South Africa, killing at least 19.

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Political tensions ease in Thailand as a court rules the Government is

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not threatening the monarchy. Welcome to BBC World News. I'm

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David Eades. Also in this programme:

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What implications for the global economy as China reports its

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slowest growth in more than three years?

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And more expected about the disastrous trading strategy at JP

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Morgan Chase that cost the bank at Thank you very much for being with

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The head of the UN mission in Syria says his team trying to reach the

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site of what could be one of the worst massacres the country has

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seen begins the uprising began in March last year. 200 people may

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have been killed. It is in the farming village of Tremseh. Kofi

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Annan says he is shocked by the killings. Opposition activists

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claim that militiamen conducted the massacre after after Tremseh was

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bombarded. The head of the UN observers mission held a news

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conference to speak about the massacre.

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The observers still based in the different provinces have the view

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of surrounding areas and are engaging with the parties on the

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ground. We can verify continuous fighting

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yesterday. In the area of Tremseh. This

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involved indirect fire as well as helicopters.

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We stand ready to go in and seek verification of facts if and when

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when there is a credible ceasefire. A representative has been speaking

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to eyewitnesses. Over 160 citizens, up to 200

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citizens were killed yesterday in the town, Tremseh. What we have

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been informed yesterday early in the morning, Syrian regular army

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started shelling the area. There was after that clashes between

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armed groups and the Syrian regular army. In the middle of the day,

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they stormed the city and started killing the people with guns and

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some of them have been slaughtered. They have been seen also, 30 bodies,

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totally, completely burned in the city. Also some of them have been

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killed with knives and there is too many bodies.

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It is clear there are still confusion as to who has done the

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killing here and Jim Muir our correspondent, said in terms of

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pictures, we have just seen a handful of the bodies of young men.

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Is there anymore that convinces you or gives awe clear picture as as to

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who has done what? It is very clear for us that this

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massacre has been made by the militia and the regular army and

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intelligence people. And what makes it that clear? You

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said there were clashes between the two sides.

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There is also - there was clashes and also between the people who

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have been killed, members of the Syrian army defending the city and

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trying to protect their civilians in the city. The most people who

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have been killed are civilians from the city and there is also members

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of the armed groups. They were protecting the people of the city.

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To South Africa now where officials say 19 people have been killed

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after a train hit a truck carrying farm workers at a railway crossing.

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The crash took place in the eastern province of Mpumalanga. Details are

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still coming in. One report says at least 24 other people were injured.

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Earlier, I spoke to our correspondent in Johannesburg,

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Milton Nkosi, who gave me the latest. It is not clear what

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happened and what caused the this accident, but local reports seem to

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suggest that a truck full of farm workers may have gone on a railway

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level crossing without checking properly. That's when a goods train

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hit the truck and that's where you have at least 19 dead. That's what

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the paramedics on the ground are saying.

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Right, obviously, we wait for more details to come in. Presumably

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these level crossings are many in number and unmanned?

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Very much so. South Africa has a wide and probably the best road

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road network on the African Continent, but on an annual basis

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over 10,000 fatalities from road accidents alone so there is

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certainly a problem with the driving and probably the road

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markings, but in this case, given that we don't know the exact

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details, it appears that the truck driver may not have looked properly

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before crossing the railway line. Good news for the governing party

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of Thailand. I has been told that its plans to change the

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constitution do not threaten the monarchy and the party itself does

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not have to disband. The Constitutional Court dismissed

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petitions against the proposed changes but it did say there would

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have to be a referendum on the changes it is putting forward.

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Jonah Fisher is outside the court in Bangkok.

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Many people are breathing a sigh of relief, the decision taken has

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averted a political crisis and potentially serious disturbances on

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the streets here. People were out in force in anticipation of the

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court verdict. Many of them seem to have now dispersed. The key

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question which the court had to address was whether plans to

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redraft the constitution amounted to a threat to the Thai monarchy

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and the position of the Thai king within the Thai political system

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and the eight judges ruled that they had seen no evidence that

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there was a threat to the Thai king and the Thai monarchy as part of

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the constitutional changes. It wasn't all in favour of the

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governing party. The court ruled they couldn't draft a new

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constitution through Parliament. The court ruled there had to be a

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referendum first. Then things could move forward and they could begin

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drafting it. If they want to amend the previous one, that's an option

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open to them on a piecemeal basis. The constitution court has reigned

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them in on other matters. But to what extent were they

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looking to effect the -- affect the role of the monarchy in its

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proposals? Well, the thing which many people

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found ludicrous about this whole thing, they made it clear from the

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start that they had no plans to change the role of the monarchy in

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the Thai political political system. This was something which was

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suggested by their opponents in Parliament. This was the reason

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behind them proposing change to the constitution. They made it clear at

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the hearings that they had no interest in changing the position

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of the Thai monarchy within the political system here and it

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appears that the constitutional court took them at their word and

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that's why they ruled in their favour and ruled they would not

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have to disband and their senior members would not face the

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punishment which opponents would like.

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The Olympics are two weeks away. London 2012 starts in a fortnight.

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The Olympic torch is getting closer. Here is one very lucky and happy

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young man who is parading the torch on that long relay into London. He

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is in the county of Dorset in the West Country at the moment. He is

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heading towards the town of Swanage. He is beginning his, what is a 300

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meter, trot taking in the crowds there in South-west England as the

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torch wends its way. I would say slowly, it is slowly while they are

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running with it, but the torch does disappear into the bus from time to

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time as they nip from village to village and town to town. Two weeks

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to go and London 2012 will be upon We will have more about the

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Olympics later in this bulletin. Let's Catch up on the business news.

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A lot of focus on news coming from China.

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He used to say that about America, when it sneezes we catch a cold.

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But when China sneezes, we catch a cold!

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Figures showed the pace of economic growth slowed down to 7.6%.

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In the previous quarter, growth was running at 8.1%. The Government has

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been trying to revive the economy by lowering interest rates and

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lifting spending. Economists says China is now making all the right

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moves to turn things round. Government Was slow on the uptake

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to the fact, but over the last couple of weeks, we have seen a

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Government more aware of the need to stimulate the economy. They

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dropped interest rates twice in the space of a month and we are seeing

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more and more projects being approved through the State Planning

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Agency and fiscal spending improvement and that should

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underwrite the improvement that we are expecting to see towards the

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end of the year. That was Alistair Thornton.

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Italian three-year borrowing costs have fallen below 5% on Friday at a

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bond auction, a decent result considering the rating agency

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Moody's downgraded its credit rating by two notches yesterday.

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Laurence Boone is European Economist at Bank of America

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Merrill Lynch. She says Italy is in a better financial position then

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some of the other debt striken countries in Europe. When you look

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at Italy's economy, it is different from Spain. They haven't done a lot

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of reforms. They don't have the same banking issues as Spain has,

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but they have an issue in terms of credibility and politics and the

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protection, the guardian is the Prime Minister and this weakness,

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this sensability is putting pressure on the bond market.

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Exactly how many billions of dollars did JP Morgan lose when

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trades went bad earlier this year? �2 billion or or $9 billion?

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Investors will be hoping for an answer to that question when the

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bank releases results for the three months to the end of June. The

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losses, which the bank initially estimated at $2 billion, have

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triggered a federal investigation. From New York, Michelle Fleury has

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Jamie diamond, the chief executive, is getting used to being in the hot

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seat. Are you too big to fail? we believe that a bank should be

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possible to go bankrupt. This Friday, the bank's shareholders

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will be asking the questions, keen to know just how much America's

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biggest bank lost on bad derivatives trades. Whatever the

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figure, the damage has been done. The size of the loss is not the

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issue. It issued is, why did they miss the last in the first place?

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And it raises the bigger question of, are these banks too big to

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manage, regulate and control, but also, too big to understand? There

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is one key difference in this particular case. JP Morgan is going

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after the pay of the group where the losses occurred, starting with

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the former head of the CEO Investment Office, who worked here.

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This makes it the first major banks since the financial crisis to

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penalise its staff in this way. claw backs are clearly more

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symbolic, designed to send a message to the market, which has

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been troubled by the fact that a few individuals can cause such a

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precipitous market collapsed in the value of JP Morgan. So, I think

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this is saying to the market, we will penalise people who do bad

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things. This Friday the 13th, JP Morgan's horror show is unlikely to

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end, with regulators investigating other potential wrong steps by the

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bank. Two of Hong Kong's richest businessmen have been charged with

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breaking anti-bribery laws. Thomas and Raymond Kwok are among five

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people charged. Prosecutors say they bribed officials to gain

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information about land sales. Our correspondent Juliana Liu explained

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why the case was so high profile. These two brothers represent Asia's

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most valuable property firm, the second biggest in the world, just

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behind a US shopping mall operator. So, these two men, they are really

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at the top of the political and business elite in Hong Kong. A lot

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of people here are still shocked that these two men would be brought

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to account to face a judge, because this is something which would have

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been unthinkable just a few years ago. This is a massive company, its

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shares have fallen by about 14% since this case came to light.

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Cocoa prices fell by 5% in New York trading. It follows figures which

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showed that demand in Europe have fallen by 18% in the last quarter,

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the sharpest decline in more than 12 years. Let's have a look at the

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markets. The markets are up. The FTSE is looking pretty strong. The

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screen has gone blank. Anyway, the Asian markets are up a little as

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well. It happens, from time to time!

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Thanks for being with us. Still to come, we're going to be following

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this little lot. They call them the "Panda Pawns", and they are pretty

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good at chess. We will find out more. Also, hidden under bridges -

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what is to be done to tackle the problems of homelessness in the

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Olympic host city? When it comes to the world of

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marketing, Facebook "likes" are seen as pretty big business.

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Companies spend significant amounts on adverts to persuade social

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network users to click the "like" button on their pages. Is it worth

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it? From global celebrities to major companies, everyone wants to

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be liked on Facebook. Many businesses, big and small, are

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buying adverts to make that happen. But are they getting what they pay

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for? This man thinks not. He bought Facebook adverts for small

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businesses who wanted people to come to their pages, and it worked.

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But when his clients look at who exactly liked them, they were not

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happy. The individuals that were liking our pages, were not just

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like in 200 pages, we started to see that they were liking up to

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5,000 pages. We had 13-year-olds who were managers of global

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multinational companies, who said that they lived in the US, but in

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actual fact were placing "likes" from remote parts of Indonesia.

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set up my own, imaginary business, and bought an advert which was

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targeted at the US, the UK, and countries across the Middle East

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and Asia. Within days, 3,000 people like it, nearly all of them from

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various Asian countries. Among them, this one. My business was among

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3,000 or so that he liked. So, we found that in some parts of the

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world, people end up making pages like mine, albeit in a pretty

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random sort of way. In the short term it is good news for Facebook,

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which earns money from every click, but advertisers are beginning to

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ask some questions. Facebook did not want to be interviewed, but

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they told us that poorly targeted adverts like mine just did not work,

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and that fake profiles were not a significant programme. Some

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marketing firms say Facebook can deliver results, if it is used in

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the right way. We are all still experimenting. I have no doubt that

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some people will have horror stories. But in our experience, a

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lot of clients are seeing a lot of commercial benefit from Facebook as

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well. Investors have always worried about the future growth of Facebook.

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If people decide they do not like the advertising on which the future

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of the social network depends, that Our main headlines... The UN is

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trying to get observers to the village in central Syria where

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activist say more than 200 people have been killed. A train has had a

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truck carrying farm workers in South Africa - at least 19 people

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have been killed. Tributes have been paid to the nine

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climbers killed when they were engulfed by an avalanche in the

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French Alps. It all took place near Chamonix in the Mont Blanc region.

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A press conference has been taking place with the mayor of the town,

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the British ambassador to France and the head of police, who

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confirmed that 14 people are still injured, one seriously. The police

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commander, Jean-Baptiste Estachy, said they were alerted initially by

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an injured climber, and that they had arrived at the scene to find

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three people dead already. He said the investigation was ongoing.

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TRANSLATION: The avalanche was caused by heavy snow, which was

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made worse by a strong winds. This is the risk of a mountain which has

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been covered by snow. The risk is known. We knew that the climbers

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tried to traverse the mountain initially, and it is difficult to

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foresee such an avalanche. The guides know the danger, they know

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the route. And they know the risks of avalanche, especially during

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July and August. Time now to introduce you to Public School 124

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in Chinatown in New York. The pupils there are getting quite a

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reputation for their ability at chess. They are between six and 11

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years old, yet they have been winning against much older players.

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Franz Strasser has been following the group, known as the "Panda

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Pawns", to the US National Championships in Tennessee. We are

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located in the heart of Chinatown. We have very strong, competitive

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students, who are backed by strong, competitive parents, who really

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believe that chess is good for them. And they try to get them started

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early, in second grade, third grade, getting them into after-school

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programmes, and also on Saturday, when you get competitions. If you

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walk through the hallways, you will see that all the trophies are not

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sports related, but they are all I started this 30 years ago, and to

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have a thousand rating for a kid was remarkable, it was unheard of,

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they were the stars. In real life, it helps you, so you can think

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As you well know, the Olympic Games are about to start, and a group of

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homeless charities has now had to admit that its target to end rough

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sleeping in the British capital by the time the Olympics start, two

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weeks from today, simply cannot be met. With the recession in

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particular, the number of homeless people is on the rise, also with

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more and more Eastern Europeans finding themselves out of work and

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on the streets. But new efforts are under way to deal with the problem.

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Under one of London's more iconic bridges, there is a persistent

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problem. Tucked up in sleeping bags are five homeless men, most of them

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from Eastern Europe. They include this man, who did not want his face

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to be shown. I lost my job. I am waiting for and appointment with

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Housing Options. On this morning, it is down to this outreach worker

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and her partner to establish what can be done to help them.

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majority of people we have met here this morning are from Eastern

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European countries. Mostly they know that what we're going to be

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able to offer them is just a reconnection to their home area.

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There is a reticence about going back, they are here with an

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intention of working, and their insistence on trying to find work,

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but we know it is difficult. London is no longer a cardboard city. The

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proportion of new rough sleepers proportion of new rough sleepers

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being helped off the streets has risen in recent years. But so, too,

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has the total number of rough sleepers. When London earned bid to

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host the Olympics this year, it provided an incentive to end rough

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sleeping once and for all. But now, with the numbers of new rough

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sleepers rising, and the Games just weeks away, many organisations are

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weeks away, many organisations are having to ask whether the target

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can be met at all. I fear that the Olympics could lead

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to an increase in terms of numbers on the street, and certainly people

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coming onto the street in order to beg, that kind of thing, there will

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be a big additional population coming through the city, so it

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could take a while to reduce numbers after the Olympics.

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