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The Egyptian prime minister calls Israeli attacks on Gaza a disaster

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and demands an end to the violence during a short visit to the

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territory. Plumes of smoke can be seen in Gaza

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as a ceasefire for the PM's visit appeared to have been violated by

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both sides. Britain welcomes Syria's new

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opposition coalition for talks in London as new video images of a

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bombing by the Syrian air force on the town of Taftanaz.

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Welcome to BBC World News. Also in the next half-hour, Obama and

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Republican leaders wrestle on the edge of a fiscal cliff over tax and

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spending. Plus, Ikea and the Stasi prisons.

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The Swedish furniture giant addresses claims that it used

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forced labour in communist East Germany.

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Egypt's prime minister has condemned Israeli attacks on Gaza

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as a disaster during a short visit to the territory. Hisham Qandil

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said during a three-hour visit that Israel's aggression must stop.

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Overnight, the Israeli military struck at more than 130 targets and

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militants fired 11 rockets from Gaza into Israel. Since Wednesday,

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when the offensive began, at least 20 Palestinians and three Israelis

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have been killed. I am in a town in southern Israel.

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It has suffered several more rocket attacks from Gaza in the last few

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hours. You can see behind me, many people in those tower blocks had to

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run for air raid shelters this morning. A siren sounded. Not many

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people are on the streets. Not many cars are driving. People are

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nervous that there will be further rocket attacks. So far, Israel's

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military operation in Gaza has, according to the Israeli military,

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hit 450, as they call them, terrorist activity sites. The death

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toll on the Palestinian side stands at 21. On this side of the border

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in Israel, three civilians have died. They were hit yesterday when

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a block of flats was hit by rocket fire from inside -- a rocket fired

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from inside Gaza. The Egyptian Prime Minister was in Gaza today as

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a show of solidarity with Palestinians. He said he would be

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trying to mediate a ceasefire. Hisham Qandil said he was disgusted

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by what he had seen. TRANSLATION: The whole world should

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show its responsibility towards this aggression. Israel should

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respect the agreement it has signed. This strategy needs immediate

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intervention from all parties. This is what Egypt has started, and will

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continue working on until we hold that the aggression and have

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Palestinian unity for the sake of these people, so that peace can be

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achieved with the establishment of a Palestinian state whose capital

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will be Jerusalem. Brothers, Palestine is the heartbeat of the

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Arab nation and the heartbeat of the Islamic nation. The nation will

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not be healthy if its heart is suffering. Those who have beliefs

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should be patient and steadfast. They will be victorious. I salute

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the great Palestinian people. God's peace be upon you. That was the

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Egyptian prime minister, on his brief visit to Gaza today. Let's

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join our correspondent in Cairo. This visit was clearly a show of

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solidarity by the new Egyptian government with the Palestinians in

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Gaza? Very much so. You heard Hisham Qandil say in the kinds of

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things that Palestinians and Arabs want to hear, and catching it in

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the language they like. It was very powerful from the Arab point of

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view. But also in terms of symbolism, there was one point in

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his speech where he said he helped carry the body of a little boy

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inside the hospital, and that boy's bloodstains were on his clothes.

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Those words will resonate around the Arab world, because they will

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show that Egypt, the most populous Arab country, seen as a diplomatic

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leader, is a powerful force in the Arab world and is standing more

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closely with the Palestinians than it did in the days of Hosni Mubarak.

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We heard from Hamas that they make a sharp distinction between what

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they call the Egypt of today and the Egypt of yesterday. That

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matters not just in terms of the symbolism, but practically, too.

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Egypt is a crucial diplomatic player in this. Lines of

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communications both to Hamas and Israel. So we look to Hisham Qandil

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for clues about what kind of solution Egypt might want to broker.

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Hamas will hope that Egypt leans its way in any solution that might

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be possible in the short to medium term.

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And although he was offering his support to the Palestinian people

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in Gaza, the Egyptian government do still have lines of communication

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with the Israeli government? They do. They withdrew their ambassador

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at the start of this, with minimum political response. But there is a

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history of intelligence co- operation. There are back channels.

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We understand the powerful head of Egyptian military intelligence was

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on that delegation today. He is working on this. Frankly, the

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prospect for a ceasefire does not look promising in the short term

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because there was that exchange of fire out of Gaza and the Israeli

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military response while the Prime Minister was still there. But if

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there is to be a solution, it Egyptian diplomacy will be at the

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heart of it. In the last few minutes, we have learnt that

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tomorrow, Egypt is facilitating a visit to Gaza by the Tunisian

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foreign minister. That is a reminder to Israel and the wider

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world that Egypt has a land frontier with Gaza. It can allow in

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and out whomever it likes. So it can keep up pressure on Israel by

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facilitating those kinds of visits, which will resonate in the Middle

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East and increase that sense of pressure on Israel, and reduce the

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Gazan sense of isolation, which in part was a big factor in the

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politics of this. For the duration of the Egyptian

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prime minister's visit today, there was supposed to be a ceasefire. It

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did not work out that way, both sides accusing each other of

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shattering the ceasefire. Let's go to Wyre Davies, our correspondent

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in Gaza. When the Egyptian Prime Minister came, we still had rockets

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being fired out from Gaza and apparently Israeli air strikes

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continuing? I was in Gaza City today during the prime minister's

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visit, and I certainly heard incoming air strikes which will

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probably, although we can't be certain, Israeli air strikes. At

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the hospital, two dozen civilians were brought, victims of an Israeli

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air strike during the Prime Minister's visit. The accusation

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from both sides is that this three hour truce did not hold. The signs

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are therefore not good for a longer term ceasefire. After these two

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days of rockets going out and heavy Israeli air strikes, the concern is

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that Israeli is preparing for a ground invasion to finish the job.

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For many here, that will bring back terrible memories of an operation

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four years ago, when more than 1000 Palestinians were killed when

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Israel sent in its tanks and troops. Israel has been warned by many of

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its supporters, including Britain this morning, that it might lose

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support if it were to send in tanks. And how much support is there for

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Hamas and the other militant groups in the Gaza Strip? Are people

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behind the militants? They are. Despite incessant air strikes from

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Israel, of which there were 130 plus last night, nobody in Gaza got

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any sleep and it was terrifying to be here because a lot of these

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rockets hit near populated areas, Israel says those strikes were

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against militant positions, but they also hit government buildings

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in the middle of Gaza City. There were civilian casualties.

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Nonetheless, people on the ground see Israel as the aggressor. Israel

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says this action was precipitated by hundreds of rockets being fired

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out of Gaza towards its territory. But the feeling here is that Hamas

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authorities have the backing of the people. Having said that, the last

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thing they want is another war with Israel.

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The situation has been escalating since it began. We can hear now

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from the senior director of the United Nations Relief Works Agency.

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It employs hundreds of Palestinian workers inside Gaza. He told me he

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is worried about the escalating situation. The Week in the United

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Nations are extremely concerned. Just yesterday, I lost a college.

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We lost a valued staff member. He was in northern Gaza to pick up his

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brother, who was in harm's way. Driving back home, there was an air

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strike near his car. He was killed almost immediately. His brother was

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badly injured. He was a 52-year-old teacher and a civilian. That is a

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tragic illustration of what can happen when these situations occur.

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I have been here for six years and lived through the operation four

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years ago. The situation of rockets and air strikes it is unsustainable.

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Ban Ki-Moon, the secretary general of the United Nations, has been

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working the phones over the last 48 hours. He has been in touch with

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regional leaders, urging restraint. Make no mistake, we serve 1.1

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million refugees in Gaza. Women, children, the sick, the elderly,

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the dying. That should be the central for all of our thoughts and

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diplomacy. We in the United Nations, the world's top diplomat, Ban Ki-

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Moon, included, have a more authority. Our work is informed by

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moral values. They have to prevail. You say it is unsustainable, but

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the last time there was an operation like this, it went on for

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a long time and hundreds of people died on the Palestinian side, 1400,

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and 13 on the Israeli side. Where I say it is unsustainable, and this

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is a worthy Secretary General regularly uses, I mean that to have

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a situation where the people of southern Israel and the people of

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Gaza are subjected to either rockets or air strikes, is

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unsustainable. Peace has to be found. That is what I mean. Long-

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term, this conflict is unsustainable. Let me show you the

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picture here in this town in southern Israel where we have had

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several more rocket attacks coming in this morning. On the beach

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normally on a Friday before the Sabbath, it would be packed. You

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can see it is almost completely empty. There are a few hardy souls,

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who despite the continuing rocket attacks, are still on the beach.

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When the rockets come in, Israel's anti-missile protection system

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kicks in. These are batteries that fire missiles into the sky to

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intercept the Palestinian rockets as they come in. Usually, that

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anti-missile shield is pretty effective. But yesterday, we saw

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three civilians killed in a nearby town. That is the latest from here.

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Let's show you some live pictures coming to us out of Tel Aviv. They

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have been sounding the air raid sirens in Tel Aviv, Israel's

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commercial capital and Israel's biggest city. An explosion has also

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been heard, according to a witness. Palestinians in Gaza have fired two

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rockets towards the city, one falling into the sea, according to

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a security source, and the other landing in a suburb of Tel Aviv.

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But it caused no damage or casualties. The distance between

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Tel Aviv and the border is about 20 miles. The key thing is that it is

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the first time since 1991, the first Gulf war, you have to go that

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far back to get to a time when Tel Aviv was on the receiving end of

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this territory, which is claimed by Sudan and South Sudan, approaches a

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new deadline. Our world affairs correspondent, Mike Wooldridge is

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in Abyei. The struggling the border between

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Sudan and at South Sudan, Abyei has been a place of conflict. There is

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legacy of that conflict. The last major violence was in 2011. This

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remains a volatile place even though there are peace keepers here

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of the Dinka being shot and killed by one of the United Nations

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peacekeepers. It turned out he was a member of the peacekeeping force,

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a local member. This has heightened the sensitivities here in this town

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at a critical time. There has been a referendum on the books for a

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long time, over the status of this territory, whether it should remain

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with Sudan or join the newly independent country of South Sudan.

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That two countries have been arguing over it. Khartoum says it

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does not accept current proposals of who should be able to vote in

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that referendum, and it seems to prefer partitioning this territory.

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The south is hoping -- is hoping the whole territory will go to the

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south. The African Union has set a date for compromise. Otherwise it

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will impose a referendum in October of next year. The question is

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whether that would bring a final resolution of this very long-

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running conflict, and a sure future to South Sudan. Or, whether it

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would simply mean all of the underlying issues which are at play

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here, continuing. And peace still This is BBC World News. The

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headlines: The sound of a large explosion has been heard in Tel

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Aviv, and sirens have sounded as Hamas continues to fire rockets

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from Gaza into Israel. Leaders of Syria's newly formed

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unified opposition coalition are holding talks with the British

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government in London today, in the Jamie joins me now with the

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business. President Obama meets with

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Congressional leaders at the White House later today, for the first

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time since the election, to try and break the deadlock over next year's

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budget. In case you need reminding, the fear is that, without a deal,

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the US economy will fall off a "fiscal cliff". Current tax cuts

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and government spending will expire on the 31st of December, taking

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$600 billion out of the economy, if they are not replaced. Estimates of

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the possible impact vary. Some economists say it could cost the US

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over two million jobs, and cut GDP by at least 0.5% or even push the

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US back into recession. The uncertainty is taking its toll on

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many US businesses, as Ben Thompson reports from New York State.

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In upstate New York, this company is assembling parts for planes,

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commercial and military. It is position skilled work and in a

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region where manufacturing has all but disappeared, the firm has

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created some much-needed jobs. Despite the recession, business

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here is good. This firm employees 90 people from all over the local

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area and it wants to expand even more. But the firm is worried about

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its future. It has been put him off big investment decisions over the

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concern of what the next few weeks could bring. The boss told me that

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the uncertainty has taken its toll. The US Air Force is one of his

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biggest customers. But the package of tax rises and spending cuts due

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to come into force also include a big reduction in defence spending.

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And that would hit business here as well. I would say it on buying new

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equipment, it has affected us. We have had discussions with our key

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staff and said we will wait to see and will after this situation is

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resolved until we make a decision about when and how many pieces of

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equipment we decide to buy. That has been replicated right across

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America. Many firms are sitting on cash reserves, waiting for some

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direction over when and how to invest it. So, our lawmakers that

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you to reach a deal, or will America and its economy teeter

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closer to the edge? Just before the end of the year, we will get a

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compromise, a temporary solution to the most important items, so that

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we do not hit an extreme form of fiscal Cliff, and it buys some time

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to negotiate a more comprehensive agreement. But that will be a

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little help for small firms. It may avert the looming deadline, but it

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does little to inspire confidence. We are that the mercy of the folks

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in Washington, that's the way everybody is. Hopefully they will

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do the right thing. From one fiscal cliff to another.

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Japan appears to be heading for its seventh prime minister in six years,

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after premier Yoshihiko Noda dissolved parliament this afternoon,

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and called snap elections for next month. Early elections were one of

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the key demands of the opposition Liberal Democratic Party, in return

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for its support for an emergency legislation, to stop Japan falling

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off its own fiscal cliff. Our Tokyo correspondent, Rupert

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Wingfield-Hayes, says the deal on the new borrowing came just in time.

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The Japanese Prime Minister said, if you did not get this through by

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the end of this month, which is not very far away, the Japanese

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government would grind to a halt in early December because it simply

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does not have any money left. The Japanese government is in the

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extraordinary situation, not unlike the US, of not raising enough taxes

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to pay for its spending. At this time every year they run out of

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money and they have to push through an emergency budget bill to finance

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the rest of the year's spending. That is what they have been

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fighting over for quite a long time. It's getting quite close to the

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edge, finally they have pushed it through in this deal which is

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bringing about an early election. For The Swedish furniture chain

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Ikea is to publish a report later into allegations that it used

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forced labour by East German political prisoners during the

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1960s and '70s. Former prisoners of the Stasi secret police say they

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were forced to work on furniture, after Ikea gave contracts to East

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Germany's communist government. Ikea has asked an outside firm of

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accountants to investigate the allegations.

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Stephen Evans explains what we know about the relationship between Ikea,

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the East German government, and political prisoners.

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We know that contracts were given to the east German government. And

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we also know that former prisoners of the star sea macro secret police,

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political prisoners, say they recognise that furniture.

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Furthermore, some people who escaped from East Germany in those

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years then wrote to Ikea saying, I was making your furniture. What we

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do not know is whether I kier, how much I'd hear you about the

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contracts. -- Ikea. Britain's Foreign Secretary has

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hinted his government may soon formally recognise Syria's newly

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formed opposition coalition. William Hague was speaking as he

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held talks with the group in London. Such recognition could lead to

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western countries providing weapons to the rebels. Inside Syria, rebels

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continue to be pounded by the Syrian air force. These pictures

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from Thursday, posted online. Show bombing in Taftanaz, a northern

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town located between Idlib and Aleppo.

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Let us go back to what is happening in Gaza City, and 20 kilometres

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over the border into Tel Aviv, we have had reports of one, maybe two

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rockets landing in or near Tel Aviv. Reuters reporting on that.

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What are you hearing, what are you saying? I am five kilometres from

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the centre of Tel Aviv. Half an hour ago, we heard an explosion, a

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single distinct explosion. The sirens didn't sound in this area

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but we could hear them sounding in Tel Aviv. I have friends in Tel

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Aviv who said they headed to a shelter. It must be worrying for

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local president's macro who are well within the range of Hamas?

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residents. It has been a long time since anything like this has

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threatened Tel Aviv, not since the Gulf war.

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It doesn't look as if both sides are reminded to walk away from

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this? No, it is crucial, this threatening with attacks reaching

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as far as Tel Aviv, because Tel Aviv has been described as a bubble

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where it is possible to live on the beautiful coastline of Israel, and

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or less on a day-to-day basis, ignore the continuation of the

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conflict with the Palestinians. Now, it is coming home to roost. Because

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Hamas has now a quiet, this is new, Brocket's which can reach as far as

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Tel Aviv, that should concentrate minds over what should the long-

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term solution to this crisis be? So that the Hamas leadership in Gaza

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is not tempted to smuggle in even more sophisticated weapons for the

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next time there is a crisis. Looking at Twitter, one saying, we

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are shelling Tel Aviv with a home- made projectile. What It is a are

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using doesn't matter, it is the symbolism of the fact they can do

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it. There is talk in the Israeli press, it is necessary once again

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