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Hello. This is BBC World News. Our top stories: A hostile mood in

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Bangkok after Thailand's prime minister refuses to resign. A

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hard-core of protesters are still on the streets.

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Locating government buildings and calling for the president to go.

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Ukraine's pro-European activists hold another day of demonstrations.

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Gay couples in Croatia will need to wait for new partnership laws, after

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a referendum to outlaw same-sex marriage.

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And how this eagle made Aussie researchers wish they'd tied their

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cameras down. A very warm welcome to you. The

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Prime Minister of Thailand has rejected demands for her to resign,

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as violent demonstrations continue to rage across Bangkok. Yingluck

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Shinawatra says that she was open to negotiations, but said that her

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removal would be unconstitutional. Right police used rubber bullets for

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the first time as protesters tried to break through their lines outside

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government house. Our correspondent is in Bangkok.

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You have absolutely stinging tear gas here, and we are quite a long

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way from the front line. It has been coming across in great wafts, as the

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protest is, a hard-core now, down mostly to young men, have been

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trying to push through. They have been firing home-made rockets and

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throwing stones at the police. The police have been throwing huge

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amounts of tear gas. A bit further along, at the main front line, they

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have declared a truth. They said they wanted to have a chance for

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dialogue to take place between them and the government. It is not clear

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what the dialogue will be about. They have not abandoned their goal

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of forcing Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to leave office, but they

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say there is a chance it can happen. Excuse me, I have very strong tear

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gas at the moment. All around me, people have been choking and

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coughing. It is quite amazing to see how these people have stayed around

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living through these clouds of tear gas. It shows you how determined

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they are. They don't want to give up. This goal of overthrowing a

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government with these endless assaults on the Prime Minister's

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office, and she isn't even there, it is just impossible to see how they

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can reach that goal. The tactics have not worked up till now, and we

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keep seeing these endless hit and run battles against government

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house, just behind me on the right. It all sounds incredibly tense. It

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shows you the determination of the people on the streets of Bangkok at

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the moment. Is there any danger or possibility that the army might be

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called in to these events? We have heard from Prime Minister Yingluck

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Shinawatra saying she's open to them becoming involved. The Army has been

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very careful to stay out of it up until now. It hasn't given

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particularly strong support to the Prime Minister when she has asked

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for it. It has given the impression it doesn't want to be involved. If

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there were a clash between these people and the Prime Minister's

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supporters, that would be a pretext, potentially, for the Army

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to step in, but the government has been very careful to keep its own

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supporters away from this. These protesters have incredibly strong

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feelings that this is an illegitimate government. They are

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very passionate. But we don't see the millions of people who actually

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voted for this government. They have voted for them in five successive

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elections. You can understand why the Prime Minister is saying, why

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should I give up power? I am an elected prime minister. But over the

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last month or so, feelings have built-up that are incredibly strong,

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and they feel that they are justified, because they feel that

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democracy doesn't rein in the government 's enough. It doesn't

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prevent her and her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra, from having a grip on

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power. Several thousand protest is in the

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Ukrainian capital, Kiev, are continuing to block the main

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government building in a tense stand-off over the country's future.

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They are demanding the resignation of the President. Our correspondent

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has the latest from Kiev. On Independence Square, protesters

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have been busy putting up barricades all around here to stop police

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getting onto the square. They have been writing messages on the

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barricades. This one says, Ukraine for freedom. This is because the

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protesters here believe their future lies with Europe. They are deeply

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disappointed that their president refuses to sign the association

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agreement with the EU which would have wrought Ukraine closer to

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Brussels. As you can see, they are using anything they can get their

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hands on to use as barricades. A lot of the protesters here stayed the

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night here, and have been lighting fires to keep themselves warm. They

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are determined to stay here on Independence Square until their

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demands are met, and they are the resignation of the president and the

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Prime Minister. This is the centre of Independence Square. At the

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moment, quite a lot of people are milling around. That metal structure

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over there it is an artificial Christmas tree. The protesters have

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taken some of the metal from that to build up the barricades. There is a

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stage behind me and lots of Ukrainian flags, and also flags of

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the European Union. All through the night they had been making political

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speeches, singing Ukrainian songs, and demanding political change in

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Ukraine. With me now is the BBC's Ukraine

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analyst. It sounds like things are really ramping up in Kiev. We have

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barricades being setup on Independence Square. Things are

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building to a crescendo. Yes, we have all those elements, but we do

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not have political dialogue, because it is not clear what will come out

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of these protests. The numbers are very impressive, as are the slogans,

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but there is no dialogue whatsoever. President Yanukovych is

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unlikely to yield to the demands of his resignation. He will try to hold

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out as long as it takes. The root of this is a disagreement over whether

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or not Ukraine should sign this trade pack with the European Union.

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We saw some very explosive scenes over the weekend coming out of the

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government. Are we going to see any change of line on the part of

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Yanukovych and that? He says he sympathises with those who suffered

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after police very brutally attacked those sleeping during the night on

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Saturday. He says this isn't acceptable, but it isn't clear

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whether his voice will be heard. Ukraine is divided. There's lots of

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his supporters, particularly in eastern Ukraine. Western Ukraine is

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the opposite. Because Ukraine is divided, it gives the opportunity

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for the authorities to rely on their power base. But there is a positive

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outcome out of this division. It is very difficult to declare a state of

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emergency, and many politicians are urging the president to do that. It

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will not be possible to enforce this in a country as divided as Ukraine.

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It will be interesting to see how the authorities react, because those

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thousands of demonstrators seem to show no signs of leaving. The

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opposition leader was also involved in that protest. They do not show

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any signs of backing down. No. One danger in this stand-off is that,

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unlike in 2004 during the Orange Revolution, there are new groups,

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new kids on the block, and they are from anarchist groups, from

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right-wing groups, from nationalist groups, from radical occupying the

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streets movements. All of those groups may actually provoke police

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attacks. This is what happened yesterday, when the demonstrators

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and some dodgy groups tried to attack the presidential office.

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There was a very, very brutal stand-off with riot police. I think

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it is those groups who are to watch. If they are put under control, the

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situation could be resolved peacefully. If not, there could be

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more provocation. The latest I heard was that the Interior Minister is

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bringing in additional police reinforcements into Kiev, which

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doesn't sound very promising. Many thanks for coming in.

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In other news, US authorities have begun an investigation into the

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causes of Sunday's train crash in the Bronx area of New York. This is

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a live shot of the Giro commuter train. The accident kills four

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people and injured 60 more. The train's recorder has been recovered,

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and one of the carriages is currently being lifted up.

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A Canadian man has been arrested for allegedly trying to sell information

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about Canada's warship buying strategy to the Chinese government.

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He had worked for a firm involved in warship design.

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African ministers and experts are to meet today to try and find ways to

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stop a rise in the killing of elephants. Seizures of ivory

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destined for Asia have more than doubled in Africa in only four

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years, and the price for Ivory has risen sharply. Organisers of a

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three-day conference in Botswana hope to push countries to block

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imports. Croatians have voted to ban same-sex

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marriages. The referendum was proposed by a conservative group

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after the government gave gay couples limited rights. The ban is

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supported by the country's Roman Catholic charge. The Prime Minister

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called it sad and senseless. There's nothing to stop them holding

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hands or kissing, but if these two ever want to get married in Croatia,

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now there is a constitutional obstacle, despite their efforts at

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the ballot box. TRANSLATION: Want to be treated as

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all other Croatian citizens. But we are denied the right to marry, and

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are defined as second-class citizens. Croatia's Prime Minister

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was on their side. He tried and failed to block the vote in the

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courts. TRANSLATION: This is a sad and

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pointless referendum. Already next week or the week after we plan to

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pass a bill on common-law partnership, so there will be no

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negative consequences in that regard. The new Bill will bring only

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positive changes, and I hope this is the last time we have a referendum

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on an issue like this one. The vote came about after a campaign

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supported by the Catholic Church. 750,000 people signed the petition

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to force a referendum. The outcome was never in doubt. Catholic values

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and beliefs form a key part of Croat identity.

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TRANSLATION: I voted in favour. Since the earliest times, people

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have known that marriage is only between man and women, and I hope

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that God will help this referendum to succeed. Croatia appeared to be

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moving in a different direction to other Western Balkan countries when

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it joined the EU in July. Now, like its neighbours Serbia and

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Montenegro, it has a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.

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Stay with us here on BBC World News. The young Romanians who have left

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their families for western Europe. Could thousands more be about to

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follow? In other news, seven factory workers

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have died in a fire at a Chinese garland factory in Tuscany, Italy.

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The fire started in a loft that the workers were using as a makeshift

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dormitory. The cause of the fire is unknown, but it has prompted

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questions about living conditions for factory workers in the city,

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which has become a centre for Chinese workers producing low-cost

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garments. When the fire swept through this

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Chinese run the factory, the workers are believed to have been asleep in

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a makeshift dormitory in the loft. Early on Sunday morning, and off

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duty police officer was passing by, and heard screaming inside.

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TRANSLATION: Chinese woman, wet and completely black due to the smoke,

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was telling me that there were many other people inside. She pointed to

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the highest part of the building. I tried to see, but the flames were so

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strong and the smoke was so pungent that it was difficult. As smoke

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billowed from the warehouse, fire crews arrived to battle the flames,

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but at least seven workers died. The building is in an industrial area in

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the Tuscan town. The town has been a strong hold of Italy's textile

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industry since the 12th century, but now local companies face tough

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competition from trying. The town has around 4000 Chinese factories.

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Most of the factories turned out clothing. Many illegal immigrants

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are thought to live and work in the factories, and every year, and

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number of businesses are shut down by the authorities. The president of

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Tuscany says some businesses in the region are in the hands of Chinese

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organised crime, and he has called for greater supervision.

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TRANSLATION: We need the national government and local institutions to

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find a way to work with China, to upgrade this industrial area, bring

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it to the surface, and make it a real industrial district where human

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rights are recognised. The cause of this fire is not yet known, but as

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the investigation begins, the tragedy will prompt questions about

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working conditions in the thousand of garment factories in this city.

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Welcome back. This is BBC World News. The latest headlines: The

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hostile mood in Bangkok after Thailand's prime minister refuses to

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resign. Some protesters are still on the street. And demonstrations are

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continuing in the Ukrainian capital as the President's opponents call

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for him to quit. A new team of chemical weapons

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inspectors starts work in Syria on Monday. They're civilians and have

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never worked inside an active war zone, so the US military has been

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preparing it with lessons learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. For this

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report, Anna Holligan has been given exclusive access to a US military

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training base in Germany. They are being prepared for what

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could be the worst day of their lives. Kidnappings, hostile locals,

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incoming fire... This is a taste of what they might encounter in Syria.

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We will be in an area where we might be in the wrong place at the wrong

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time, and we might get people shooting at us. These chemical

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analysts are entering an unpredictable environment. These

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soldiers on this uniquely modified military base have been trained to

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act like the enemy. This is a simulation, a training exercise, but

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it is designed to replicate the kind of situation they could face in

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Syria. These guys are experts in their field, experts and chemical

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weapons, but they have never been forced to operate inside inactive

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combat zone and if they make mistakes, people could die. The

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commander who has designed these exercises has drawn on his own

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experiences to try to teach the teams entering Syria how to

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recognise cultural sensitivities and avoid repeating mistakes of the

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past. For example, going into homes where only women were present, using

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dogs in villages. Absolutely, we take the most relevant and recent

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challenges facing our soldiers in combat environments and we insert

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them into the training scenarios that we do here. Their mission is to

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verify the chemical stockpiles before they can be removed and

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destroyed. This is how they are hoping it will proceed. But what

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makes a civilian volunteer to do such a dangerous job? I have seen

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pictures on television of the effects of these kinds of weapons,

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and it is easy for me as a father to look at the kids affected and to

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realise these weapons have to go. If I can do anything to help, with my

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skills, I am more than happy to help. The idea is that those skills

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with this training will keep them safe in Syria.

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For the last seven years, restrictions have been in place on

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people from Romania and Bulgaria wanting to go to other EU countries.

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In a month's time, those restrictions expire, and the

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political debate over the changes continues to be fierce. Bulgarians

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and Romanians gained the right to visa-free travel to the EU in 2007,

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when their countries joined the union. But in a number of countries,

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including Spain and the United Kingdom, restrictions were put in

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place on the type of jobs they could take. As of January, these

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restrictions will expire and there is expected to be an increase in

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migration. The fear in countries like the UK and Germany is that

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there will be an influx of people seeking to access social benefits.

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Another fear in many countries is a sudden demand on public health but

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it's hard to say just how significant the impact will be. Our

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Europe correspondent Matthew Price has been speaking to potential

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migrants in the north west of Romania, Transylvania. This is one

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of Europe's poorest countries and many wish to escape from here. Like

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the daughters of Johan - they went to Spain ten years ago. Every family

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in his town is said to have either someone either there or in Italy.

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The Romanian destinations of choice. TRANSLATION: Spain has more

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facilities. My daughters say they would like to come home one day, I

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would like them to. But some say that many young people now choose

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Britain. This man has already worked there on a building site. Even under

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the current restrictions, he and fellow countrymen were able to come

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to Britain and look for work. He says he thinks changing the rules

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will change little. By the time I went to the UK in 2006, I worked on

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a site where there were 70 Romanians and the company was Romanian. In an

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old communist-built cultural centre, a jobs fair to attract people to the

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west. Among them, Andrea, a dentist. Have you thought about working in

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England? Yes, but I decided that Ireland is better. Because you have

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friends there? Yes. People are looking for better wages and living

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conditions, and this migration has been going on for years now. It is

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impossible to predict whether the change in rules on January first

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will accelerate the process. Already though, this man has made his

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decision. When the regulations change, he will be able to apply for

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any job when the regulations change, and escape the low wages here. 200,

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maximum 300 euros per month. So when the rule changes come in on January

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the 1st, does that mean you try to go back to Britain? Yes. Getting out

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of here will get easier with the rule change, but many did not wait

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for this moment to migrate across Europe. They have already left and

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they are building lives elsewhere. In Australia, victims of the drug

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thalidomide have won a historic class action suit worth over 80

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million US dollars. The law suit was brought by more than 100 people in

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Australia and New Zealand who have had to live with birth defects after

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their mothers took thalidomide while pregnant over 50 years ago. Diageo

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PLC, which owns the company that originally distributed the drug,

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agreed to settle the class action, but the drug manufacturer,

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Grunenthal, and has still not paid any compensation. Every single

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Australian victim was actually damaged by a drug made by Grunenthal

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in Germany. Despite that, Grunenthal will not pay a cent to its

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Australian and New Zealand victims. 50 years on, Grunenthal will still

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not face up to its shameful behaviour in relation to that drug.

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China has launched its first moon rover mission, marking a major

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milestone in its space programme. The rover is being carried onboard

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an unmanned rocket which took off from a base in Southern China. It's

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expected to land on the moon and begin carrying out experiments by

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mid-December. Ben Ando has more. Atop the towering Long March rocket,

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China's first moon lander prepares for blastoff. The un-manned probe

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was launched from a military complex in south-west China. Officials at

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mission control say all went according to plan. According to

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Beijing control centre, the probe has successfully entered the's

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orbit. The lander is due to reach the moon and touched down in a

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fortnight. It is named after the mythical pet and will explore the

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lunar surface and seek out natural resources. China is only the third

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nation after the United States and the former USSR to send a mission to

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land on the moon since beginning its space programme ten years ago China

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has launched an orbiting module. China is also planning a permanent

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space station by 2020 and eventually to send astronauts to the Moon as

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well. Well, you could confidently say

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these pictures were taken on the fly. These are images from a video

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camera that's been snatched by a big bird in Australia. The camera then

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recorded the flight of the sea eagle that was carrying it - you can

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actually see it's wings flapping. It also pokes its head into the lens.

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It was a research camera that had been set up to record the behaviour

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of crocodiles in northwest Australia, until the eagle took it

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up, up and away. It then recorded a 100-kilometre journey across a

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remote Australian landscape. The rangers who were trying to get the

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crocodile footage say that from now on they'll bolt their cameras down.

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A reminder of our top story: The Thai Prime Minister has rejected

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opposition demands for her resignation as demonstrators

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continue violent protests outside government buildings. Yingluck

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Shinawatra said she was open to negotiations following a meeting

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with the protest leader on Monday but said the demand for the

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replacement of her government by an appointed council was

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unconstitutional.

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