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It's the final day of campaigning before Scotland's referendum

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The latest polls suggest the result is too close to call.

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We are and where, we are not drifting off the North Pole. You

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have be I'm Lucy Hockings live in Edinburgh

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with the latest. Campaigners on both sides

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of Scotland's referendum debate are taking to the streets

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for one final day of campaigning Campaigners on both sides

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of Scotland's referendum debate are taking to the streets

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for one final day of campaigning And with the future of the UK

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hanging in the balance they will be doing all they can to win over those

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who are still undecided. The overall poll

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of polls suggests the result is While 49% say Yes to

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Scotland becoming an independent country. Three polls released within

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the last 12 hours by British newspapers the Daily Telegraph,

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Daily Mail and Scottish newspaper The Scotsman all suggest a lead

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of 52% for No to 48% with undecided Let's cross to Lucy Hockings

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who is live for us What is the mood like there? It is

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incredible. The tension in the air is palpable. When you speak to

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people here in Edinburgh, tears come to their allies, some of them,

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instantly. Such is the passion that they feel, whether it is a yes or a

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no fact that it is coming down to the very last day of campaigning.

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This referendum is simply too close to call. You have showed the poll

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results but look at the margin of error. Things could go either way.

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We still have a massive pool of undecided voters in Scotland, people

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who are yet to make up their minds. They may not make up their mind

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until this time tomorrow, when they head to the polling stations and

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make perhaps the biggest political decision of their lives. Whether or

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not Scotland should be an independent country. It is

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remarkable, whether you like in a cafe where people are picking up

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their morning coffees, last night at pubs and restaurants in Edinburgh,

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it seems to be the only thing that anyone is talking about. Daily life

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is going on but such is the import of this decision, everywhere you go,

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there are flags flying, people are wearing buttons on their coats. On

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the streets last night, walking through the historic heart of

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Edinburgh, I saw chalk marks on the street, people writing political

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messages. 16-year-olds will be voting in a referendum tomorrow.

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They were walking around, late last night, handing out leaflets, trying

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to convince people one way or another. The mood here is tense,

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basically. I cannot think of a better word. Passions are really

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running high. On Friday morning, the eyes of the

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world will be on this woman. It is Mary who will deliver the result of

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the Scottish referendum. It is very important in the country's history,

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yes. It's an important stage. I am honoured to have a part to play in

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all of that. How comfortable are you about being replayed endlessly

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delivering the result on the Internet? I'm trying not to think

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about that. I wouldn't be human if I didn't have lives about that but I

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am focused on making sure that that of the process goes well. In the

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streets, on buses, in cafes and pubs, in offices, at dinner tables,

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the debate here is everywhere. Scotland is split down the middle. I

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had never spoken to my family about politics before now. It used to be

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that this was just my job. One of the big things falls the first poll,

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which reduced a swell of attention around the UK and the world. A lot

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of people thought it would be a close win for the no campaign, they

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thought it was possible that the yes campaign would win. The stakes

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couldn't be higher. Even at the bowling alley in Edinburgh, the talk

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is of currency, oil, years of voting Labour getting Tory, social justice,

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fear, hope and the end of infantilism. In a way, Scotland

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needs to grow up and leave the family home in a sense. I am voting

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yes because I decided that Scotland is better by itself. We don't need

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to be led by Westminster. We are strong enough to do it by ourselves.

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I am voting no on Thursday because I think there are too many unanswered

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questions, too many cases where they are hoping and praying.

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Unfortunately, I think in today's's global economic society, we cannot

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afford to take that many chances. The arguments will go on forever but

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it is decision time. And what is likely to be the highest turnout in

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Scotland's history will determine its future.

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We are expecting a turnout of 80% tomorrow. People who haven't voted

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for years will be casting a ballot and those first-time voters as well.

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One of the phrases that comes up quite a lot from politicians on both

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side of the divide is what kind of divorce this would be, if Scotland

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does indeed vote yes. The no campaign is saying it could be

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bitter and acrimonious. The yes campaign saying it could be a nice

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kind of separation. I want to take you back 21 years, to a divorce that

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they called the velvet divorce. That was when Czechoslovakia broke up to

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be two sovereign nations. Our correspondent is in Prague. He looks

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at some of the lessons that can be learned from what happened in

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Czechoslovakia, for those here in Scotland.

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Prague, seat of Kings, emperors and presidents for ten centuries, able

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rock stage set for many an historical drama and a meeting point

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between East and West. But since 1993, also the capital of a much

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reduced country. At the stroke of midnight on December 31, 1992,

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Czechoslovakia simply ceased to exist. And astonishingly, the

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decision to divide it without a referendum, had been taken just five

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months earlier. Leading the talks for the Czech side was Prime

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Minister, later president, fax love clouds. -- Vaclav Claus. You are

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using the wrong arguments. It is very easy to defy the country. The

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number of people in the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic is

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2-to-1. Everything is divided 2-to-1. But that simple equation

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could not be applied everywhere. A temporary currency union collapsed

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after just six weeks and the Slovak currency devalued massively. But in

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Bratislava, despite their rocky start, the Slovaks have caught up.

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In time of admission, Slovak GDP per capita was 60% of the Czech GDP.

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Very recently, Slovakia has the same GDP per capita is the Czech

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Republic. Today, Czechs and Slovaks regard their velvet divorce as a

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success. But that doesn't mean there isn't nostalgia for Czechoslovakia.

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Of course, nowadays, everybody is happy it happened that way. In the

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gentle way. That there was no war. But still, there are things which

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are in my mind. This was not correct in some ways. Comparisons with

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Scotland? Well, unlike the Czechs and Slovaks, the voice of the

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Scottish people will be heard. At the moment, those polls are

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saying that this referendum is too close to call but one thing that is

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certain, on Friday morning, Scotland will wake up to a very different

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future and whether you vote yes or no up here, the one thing people are

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unified honours the fact that they want to change, whether it is change

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and having independent country or whether it is simply seeing more

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powers devolved to Holyrood, the Scottish Parliament behind me. More

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powers on things like tax, health care which is what the no camp as

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promised. That is a certainty. Scotland is never going to be the

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same again after this referendum. I suspect Scotland isn't going to be

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waking up Friday because they will be up all night, along with the rest

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of us! Thanks for now. And you can keep up to date

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on this historic vote at There,

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you'll find the referendum live page which is following every twist

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and turn of the final 24 hours. Police investigating the murders

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of two British tourists on a beach in Thailand say they are

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now considering two other British David Miller and Hannah Witheridge

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were found dead on the island of Two British tourists are now

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in police custody but have not been A Chinese economist and champion

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of the rights of China's Muslim Uighur minority,

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is due to go on trial in Xinjiang. Ilham Tohti was detained in January

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after questioning the government's role in a series

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of violent confrontations between Uighurs and the dominant

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Han Chinese ethnic group. He's accused

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of having links to separatists. Fiji has been holding

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its first parliamentary election The vote is seen as an opportunity

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to restore democracy to the South Pacific nation, which has seen

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four governments toppled within the past 30 years, largely because

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of tensions between indigenous China's president has arrived in

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India for a three-day visit which is expected to focus on closer economic

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ties. He was greeted in Gujarat by India's new primers to, who made

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regular visits to China when he was Gujarat's Chief Minister. He will

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travel to Delhi tomorrow, on Thursday, and will hold talks,

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travel to Delhi tomorrow, on focusing on trade, infrastructure

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and Borders disputes. Let's speak to the BBC's Hindi service

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correspondent, who was following the trip for us. Whenever I've been in

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India recently, people say, gosh, look at the infrastructure. They

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marvel at China and ask why cannot India do the same? What is this

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visit about? You are right. It is basically

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issues around economics and it is primarily going to be about trade

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and investment. That has been billed as the primary issue which is going

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to be discussed between the two leaders in the next three days. And

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ever since the new government came into power, there has been a lot of

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talk of improvement in Indian and Chinese relationships, especially on

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the economic front. It is also significant because the premiere of

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very recently went to Japan, where the Japanese government pledged

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millions of dollars into India over the next five years. There are many

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experts believe the Chinese will also, in all probability, do the

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same. The fact remains that both India and China have had a

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long-standing border issue and despite several rounds of

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negotiations border talks over the past several decades, there has been

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no resolution in sight. That is something which is of a very

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delicate nature between these countries but it is only going to be

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trade and investment which will be the talk of the time for the next

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few days in India. Do people in India feel largely like

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they have no choice but to improve their relationship with China? China

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has historically been closer to Pakistan and has recently supported

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from anchor, which unnerves India. Yes. The Chinese visit to Sri Lanka

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was keenly watched in India. India has appeared to be taking a lot of

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interest over the last decade, over the growing Chinese investment in

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Sri Lanka, which has been a traditional ally. India has looked

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upon all of these factors, with a lot of caution, and it has tried to

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come up with something which is of mutual interest to both countries.

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Of course, there is this problem of growing Indian quick dash the

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growing Indian trade deficit, although China remains one of its

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biggest partners. That is a delicate balance which needs to be looked

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upon by the new government in Delhi. Of course, the Chinese president has

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now landed in Gujarat. Yes, it is significant.

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Interesting how this silly dash visit is being conducted. It was his

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birthday. There was a picture treated, which is trending in India.

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It is quite a personal start to this trip. The Premier has made plain his

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admiration of the way the Chinese have improved that internal affairs.

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That is true. When he was the chief minister of Gujarat province, he

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made four or five visits to China in search of investment. He has

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promised Chinese investors export zones, setting up special zones

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throughout the country and in the Gujarat state. Basically, he has

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been talking about an investor friendly climate in India and that

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is how he sees the future of Sino Indian relations over the coming

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decades. China and India represent a third of

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the population so it could be a powerful alliance of it comes.

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Stay with us on BBC World News, still to come:

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New research shows the English king - Richard III - succumbed to 11

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gruesome blows as he lost the throne and his life on the battlefield more

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The golden era of America's space age may seem

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consigned to history, but NASA is gearing up to, once again,

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July 2011 and a moment in history. The space shuttle Atlantis makes its

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final landing at the Kennedy space Centre in Florida. The USA's manned

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mission to the stars comes to a halt, at least for a while. But now,

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it is left off once again and then a very American touch, the private

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sector is leading the way. NASA has signed a deal with Boeing to build a

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new generation of craft, effectively space like taxis to put astronauts

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into space and towards the space station. This truth be the most

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ambitious and exciting chapter and NASA's history. From the first day,

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the Obama Administration has made it clear that the greatest nation on

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earth should make it its priority to get into space. Especially when he

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is talking about rivals Russia. It costs America $1700 to finance his

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astronaut Petra. That is especially when they have to get into the space

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station. We will have new facilities that will not only be visited by our

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astronauts but by private citizens and foreign sovereign nations. NASA

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plans the first launch in 2017 and the hope is that this is only one

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small step. They hope it will bite to the next giant leap, a mission to

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the planet Mars. It is the final day of campaigning

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before Scotland decides on its independence referendum. The latest

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polls suggest it is too close to call the outcome.

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China visits India and both countries hope it will improve the

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relationship between them. A new experimental vaccine for Ebola

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is to be tested on humans The British trial has been

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fast-tracked in an attempt to stop The planned trial in Oxford will see

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60 healthy volunteers being tested against the Zaire species of Ebola

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which is circulating in West Africa, The vaccine does not contain

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the infectious Ebola virus and can't cause a person who is

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vaccinated to become infected. The first phase of the trials,

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which could also see people from the Gambia and Mali taking

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part, is expected to be completed Up to 10,000 doses

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of the experimental vaccine are being produced

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while trials are taking place. That will mean the vaccine could

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be made available immediately to Dr Edward Wright is a senior

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lecturer in Medical Microbiology at the University of Westminster,

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who's involved in the trials. He says clinical trials of this

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vaccine are moving very quickly. It's normally takes years of

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development for a new vaccine to come into effective use. There's a

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new vaccine to come into effective use. Studies have been done on

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animals already. They have proven that this is an effective vaccine

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for stimulating an antibody response in monkeys. The vaccine itself is

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perfectly safe. It is not going to cause the Ebola disease in people.

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All the vaccine comprises of it a harmful chimpanzee virus that has

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been engineered to incorporate one of the proteins, one of the genes of

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the Ebola virus, so it cannot cause the Ebola disease. The virus itself

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only causes cold and flu like symptoms. It is one protein, one

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small part of the Ebola virus, how can that park then generate a proper

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response in the human body? We have to look at the natural history of

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the infected individual. When the person becomes infected, the body

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recognises the virus and stimulates antibodies that will target a

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protein on this offers of that virus. The gene decodes that protein

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and incorporates it into this chimpanzee virus and so when the

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volunteers receive this vaccine, the vaccine will infect cells and that

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stimulates the antibody response to the infection. That is what we hope

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at least what happened. -- will happen.

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A senior Ukrainian rebel leader has told the BBC that

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a new law granting self-rule to parts of the East will not change

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Andrei Purgin said there were no plans to develop any political

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The bill - which was approved by the Ukrainian

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Parliament on Tuesday - also offers an amnesty for some rebels.

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The measures are part of a ceasefire deal seeking to end five

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The BBC's Paul Adams is in Donetsk, a separatist stronghold,

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and he explained the reaction in the city to the new autonomy law

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It's kind of interesting - both here in Donetsk and in the other main

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rebel stronghold of Luhansk - we've had at times some carefully nuanced

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statements saying that rebel leaders are interested in some of the

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proposals that they do not dismiss them out of hand, but they are also

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making it clearer that after everything that has happened

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in the past few months, they are not about to abandon their cause

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They have declared their own peoples' republics both

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They also talk about New Russia as a kind of overarching structure

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which is also indicative of the fact that they are looking towards

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the East and not the West for their political and economic allegiances.

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But when I spoke to Andrei Purgin, who is the first

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Vice Prime Minister, effectively the number two of the Donetsk

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People's Republic last night, he gave me a rather guarded answer at

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On the one hand he expressed optimism

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but on the other hand he made that wider purpose clear.

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Right now, we are learning about this a lot.

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There are a lot of positives which we can use for dialogue

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and the foundation for negotiation, but that does not mean that we have

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altered our direction on the way to independence and the Russian world,

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and we really do not plan on building any political

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relationship with Ukraine, not federal or any other.

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But we can discuss economic cooperation, social,

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He also made it clear that he dismissed some

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of the proposals about an amnesty and he said that the rebels were not

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He said Ukrainian forces had to withdraw from their territory first

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and when I put it to him that effectively what they are looking

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towards is some kind of separate entity, a bit of a forgotten

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remnant, he said that there were many small countries in Europe that

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are proud and they do not think they are little or forgotten.

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He also described Ukraine as one of the poorest countries in Europe,

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"A rotten, poor, corrupt country, the cesspool of Europe."

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So it is pretty clear, talking to Mr Purgin,

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that he has absolutely no intentions of agreeing to anything that would

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bring this part of Ukraine back under the control of Kiev.

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New research has shown that King Richard III died in the thick

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Detailed scans of the king's bones, published in The Lancet,

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show he sustained 11 wounds at or near the time of his death,

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King Richard's skeleton is due to be reinterred at Leicester Cathedral

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Let us hope David Cameron does not suffer the same fate! You can watch

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all of the life polling results from the Scottish independence referendum

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election tonight on BBC One. Here is Jeremy Vine with the latest news on

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that. Yes, join us tonight for the results

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of life as they come in. You can see the map here Scotland. We have

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covered dust and the results of the last election held in Scotland. You

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can see what we have got is essentially a three-dimensional

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Spain 's operating in two dimensions. But actually it is just

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a screen. Inside this board we will show due to the voting areas. They

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are in alphabetical order from Aberdeen to West Lothian. It is

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green for yes, read for now, we will put through the percentages as they

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come into others. This is where the referendum results will be decided.

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We will use this other bot to tally the raw number of votes as the night

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continues. I will then take the councils of the battle ground board

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as they declare and by the end of the night you will know whether it

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is a green for yes or a read for now that has won the day. -- read for

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now. Thank you for joining us. Goodbye.

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