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The United States and its Arab allies have launched the first air

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and missile strikes against Islamic State targets inside Syria.

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The militants' stronghold of Raqqa was hit, along with other targets

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which the Pentagon says aimed to disrupt an "imminent attack"

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Within the last hour, Syria says it received advance warning of the

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attacks, in the form of a letter from the US Secretary of State.

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Jordan has confirmed to the BBC that their planes took part

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Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab

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The US has launched a series of air and missile strikes

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against Islamic State targets in Syria with the active

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A Jordanian government spokesman has confirmed that it's been involved

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in the attacks, saying it was necessary to ensure the stability

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Other Arab nations involved in the US-led operations include

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Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

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The targets hit included the eastern city of Deir Ezzor

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and the city of Raqqa, where Islamic State has its headquarters.

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The US Central command said it launched the strikes from warships

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in international waters in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf.

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The targets included Islamic State training compounds,

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The first amateur footage from the aftermath of the airstrikes

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This was taken overnight in the province of Idlib -

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people showing what they believe to be remains of a missile.

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And this is the sort of scene that people there have been

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We had this statement a couple of hours ago from the US military,

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giving us quite a few details about this operation. Yes, talking about

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two different aspects of the attack. First of all saying that 14 strikes

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were carried out by US planes and war ships, together with five Arab

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allies who participated in the air strikes and helps to support them.

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These were against Islamic State target as you mentioned, including

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Islamic State fighters, storage sites, command and control centres,

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vehicles, and that these were destroyed and damaged in the

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strikes. The statement also said that the campaign in Syria and Iraq

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would continue. Secondly, the statement talked about a separate

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strike carried out just by US forces against a group of Al-Qaeda

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militants, a network of Al-Qaeda veterans, it said, that was using

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Syria as a base to plot imminent attacks against Western interests,

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against the United States. This group was recruiting Westerners to

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carry out these attacks and was experimenting with explosives, and

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using this ungoverned space to have an international, global jihadi

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agenda. The US attacked those separately from the other strikes

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against Islamic State. In terms of the legality, one suspect there will

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be a lot of arguments about that. John Kerry has been talking about

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the right of hot pursuit. What about the political reaction that will

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unfold now across America? The US has almost switched sides, hasn't

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it? We are hearing that a letter was delivered to the Syrian government

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warning them of these strikes. Yes, the Americans have said all along

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that they do not want to cooperate with the Syrian government in the

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fight against Islamic State because they consider it to be beyond the

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pale, it has lost legitimacy because of the violence it has carried out

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against its own citizens during the Civil War, but at the same time,

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Washington does not want a conflict with the Syrian government over this

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campaign. According to a government statement in Damascus, John Kerry

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did send a letter to the Syrians via an intermediary telling them that

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the strikes would take place. The Syrians received a few hours

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warning. It was mentioned that they supported any international effort

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against Islamic extremists on their territory and that they were

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coordinating closely with Baghdad. That suggests that they are not

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going to raise a great deal of fuss when this issue is brought, not only

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to the United States, but in particular to the UN because

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President Obama is heading to the UN for the General Assembly, during

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which time he will explain his campaign and the bubbly explained

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the legal reasoning behind it. He will put forward the fact that he

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has support from the region. These five nations that have supported

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America. He will also get opposition. The Russians have said

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it is not good enough just to notify the sovereign state that you are

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going to carry out attacks might you have to get consent. You have to

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operate within the bounds of international law. You can see where

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this debate is going to go at the United Nations over the last couple

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of days. We will see what the US reaction is as America wakes up.

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Stay with us through the early hours. We move now to Beirut and to

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our correspondence that. Can you give us a sense of reaction there?

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Officially, the government has not issued any reaction to what happened

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overnight in Syria. I was talking this morning to some Syrian refugees

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in Lebanon. Most of them were extremely sceptical about what

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happened. They did not feel that this would make a big difference to

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their day-to-day lives. This will get them back home. They were

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sceptical that any solution to their suffering might come from the

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Americans, or that Isis can be defeated by military means only.

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This will be a split opinion, but is there a sense that air strikes would

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be enough? We have had repeated refusals of the idea of sending in

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ground troops. What about this Arab coalition in support? The way that

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the Syrians see this is that Syria has become, for many, a proxy war

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between different parties. The parties are divided. People are

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divided as to whether these countries might be wanting some good

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for Syria, or if they are only seeking their own interests. The

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Syrians I spoke to were extremely lost as to how to assess what is

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happening in their country, and whether this might lead to any

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positive result to the situation over there. Would you say that

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generally there is still a huge suspicion of any US intervention in

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the region, because resident Obama has been reluctant to go in, fearful

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of reprise of, fearful of this hostile reaction. This is what the

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Syrians have been telling me. They are not very optimistic about this

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intervention. They have been telling me about an ulterior motive behind

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this military action in Syria. They asked me why now? They have been

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asking for assistance for years and it did not come. Why now? Why has

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resident Obama decided to interfere at this point? Is it for the good of

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Syria itself, or is it going to make things worse? Many thanks.

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Syria's Foreign Minister says it had been given prior notice of the

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strikes from the United States. This is how it was confirmed on Syrian

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state television a short while ago. TRANSLATION: Yesterday, the Foreign

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Minister received a letter from his American counterpart John Kerry via

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the Iraqi Foreign Minister in which he informed him that the United

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States would target a terrorist group in Syria. The military said

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that Syria would continue to attack ISIS in Raqqa and other areas mezzo

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coordination with the most and directly affected countries would

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include a rock. -- Iraq. As we have found with military

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forces, aeroplanes have tried to find the positions of ISIS within

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the Syrian borders, and we have taken action in light of continuous

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attempts to attack our borders. We need to stop them attacking our

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borders. We will continue with this effort. We will continue with

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whatever steps are necessary in order to target the positions of the

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terrorist organisation ISIS. Can you tell me exactly what aircraft are

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being used by Jordan, and how many aircraft are being used? All

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military details will be given at the appropriate time, and military

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officials will announce them at the appropriate time. Our aeroplanes are

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targeting the positions of ISIS. We will not talk about any military

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details at this point. We release information as we see fit. That was

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a Jordanian government spokesman telling me a bit about their role in

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this assault. We can show you the latest pictures released by the

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Pentagon. This is an image of the missiles being launched by the U.S.

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Navy. To carry out these strikes, we know that the US has employed 47

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Tomahawk missiles launched from the US ships operating in international

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waters. Missiles are also being launched by the US air force,

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remotely piloted aircraft. These images from the US military as you

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can see, show the very first pictures of the air strikes launched

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on Syria. Not only by the US, but with military support and political

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backing from Bahrain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab

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Emirates. I am joined now by associate fellow

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at the Royal United services Institute. This is a formidable

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alliance. How surprising is it that the US has been calling for the

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support of these Arab nations, but we have also got potential

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cooperation with Orion and previous foes now coming on board to tackle

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IES is remarked it is a huge coup that the United States has rallied a

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whole host of Sunni allies to counter ISIS. In 2007, having the

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Sunni alliance was essential in the insurgency strategy. The Sunni on

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the ground felt reassured that US presence would be maintained to

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undermine and counter Al-Qaeda. Today, it is important that we

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maintain that support of the Sunni people, and the Iranians membership

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of the alliance could perhaps undermined that support. We saw a

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statement yesterday saying that the Saudi and Iranians, there has been

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some sort of discussion, and also, what about the actual role of these

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Arab Sunni states question what do we know exactly what they are doing?

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Currently, we do not know exactly the role that these Arab countries

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have forged for themselves, but we need to understand that these Arab

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states are increasingly willing to take the initiative. Just the other

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month, the United Arab Emirates took initiative in Libya. The very fact

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that America had not been so involved in the region, had to a

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degree withdrawn from the region, that demonstrated an increasing

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willingness on the part of Gulf states to intervene. But are the

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Gulf states fairly accused of facing at least two directions at the same

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time because there have been a lot of speculative reports that

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individuals within countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia are funding

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and supporting, and Turkey of course supporting Islamic State for their

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own political cause, and now they are involved in this alliance. You

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are right, and I think that as part of this alliance, the United States

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is going to have to calibrate its approach, and coordinate closely

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with Gulf allies in order that they won't play aged visitors roll on one

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hand to counter the ISIS fighters on the ground, and on the other hand to

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allow individuals from those regimes to fund them. What does it say

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actually, that we see this huge apparent coalition, even a statement

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from Russia yesterday saying they might cooperate in some way? What

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does it say about the perceived threat of Jihad is to groups like

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Islamic State? It is clearly targeting Gulf regimes. They want to

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undermine Gulf monarchies. They perceive them as illegitimate. When

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you look at the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, they share it

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exactly the same strategic interests as the United States. The problem

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that the US has is it is only beginning to formulate a strategy in

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that it is targeting ISIS members in Iraq and Syria, and it is key that

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it targets Syria because two thirds of ISIS fighters are based in Syria.

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We seen the missile strikes, we know that we will see images of civilian

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casualties, sadly. When pictures of children and women, who are

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innocently killed, come in in Muslim countries on the television sets,

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how will those countries still maintain support for this military

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attack? These all states are going to have to appreciate the fact that

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war is tragic, and you do have collateral damage, you do have

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civilian casualties, and that is part of war, and it is tragic. The

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choice that they face is to avoid that and in turn to allow ISIS to

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spread its tentacles and effectively target golf regimes. The spread that

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ISIS has had over the past couple of months has been exponential due to

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their funding capability. It is not only the wealthy Gulf individuals

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funding ISIS, you have... Why haven't Saudi and tata been worried

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about the threats to their instability at the beginning? They

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have been worried, but they wanted American leadership. The real

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question is why did it take America so long to actually Upshaw

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pro-Western moderates and Syrian opposition numbers, why did it

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allowed to funding to go to the radical ones, allowing them to be a

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more appealing alternative for Islamist? The problem America has is

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that it does not have a rollback strategy for ISIS. It is targeting

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them using air power alone. What is to say that ISIS cannot regain the

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initiative, or the Assad regime cannot regain the initiative? What

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comes afterwards, yes. You need to have greater ground troops to

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achieve that. There are so many questions about how long this plays

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out for. Many thanks indeed. There is much more at our website,

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you have got all of the latest developments plus the background and

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analysis, it is an incredibly complex picture, of course. Also the

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latest video that we get into the newsroom which we have put online

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for you. And you can the discussion, these do, and it become news and

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information please share that with us.

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Stay with us at BBC world News. Much more to come. We will look at some

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other stories, is school with no classes or students, we will hear

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how this school along with many in Pakistan came to house hundreds of

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police officers. The Rockefellers, the family that

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made its vast fortune from oil, has announced their multi-million

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dollar philanthropic organisation is planning to sell investments

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from fossil fuels and reinvest The Rockefeller Brothers Fund is

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the most significant organisation to join a campaign to reduce

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investments in fossil fuels because The announcement came on the eve

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of the United Nations climate change summit, which will take place

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in New York later. Roger Harrabin looks

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at the issues on the table. The warnings get louder

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but emissions keep on rising. The UN is asking national leaders to

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pledge to curb the greenhouse gases that have warmed the atmosphere

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and made the seas more acidic. One solution may lie

:18:37.:18:40.

in future cities. An extra billion people will

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be moving into urban areas. A report says cities

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in developing countries must be Public transport is clean,

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and you have to pay to drive The suburban trains are

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massively improved, too. This line runs from the Docklands in

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the east of London right out to be It doesn't go anywhere

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near the central business district at all, but it's cheap, it's quick,

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and, typically, it's packed. But big infrastructure costs money,

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and rich nations haven't kept their promises to transfer finance

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to poor countries There is some good news,

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the costs of renewable energy are plunging since subsidies created

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a mass-market. But reducing the overall risk to

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the climate will be very hard. There's plenty more on climate

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change on the BBC News website. Find out how it's affecting

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your part of the world and read the latest blogs from our science

:19:52.:19:54.

and environment correspondents. You'll find all that

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at BBC.com/news. The top stories: The United States

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and its Arab allies have launched air and missile strikes for the

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first time against Islamic State militants in Syria.

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A stronghold was hit, along with other targets which the Pentagon

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says aim to disrupt an imminent attack against Western interests.

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France's foreign minister Laurent Fabius has confirmed that

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one of its citizens, Herve Gourdel, has been kidnapped in Algeria.

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Mr Fabius said a video on the internet was genuine,

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and that the Islamic State was behind it.

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The kidnappers are demanding that France ends its attacks

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The BBC's Lucy Williamson gave us more details on the kidnapping.

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We think that it happened on Sunday. The kidnappers released a

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video, as you mentioned, on Monday, and in it the hostage, Mr Gourdel,

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appears to put forward the kidnappers' demands that France

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should stop its involvement in the campaign against Islamic State.

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France has said it has started to carry out air strikes against the

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group in Iraq, although it said it won't send ground troops and won't

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get involved in Syria. It has a gun air strikes in Iraq and that is

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seemingly what has prompted this threat from the kidnappers.

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The French government line is that there will be no negotiation, no

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handing any kind of victory to Islamic State, but of course there

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has been lots of discussion in recent weeks about which countries

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do negotiate to try and rescue those who are taken hostage.

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That's right, and there is a lot of pressure, a lot of reports here

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saying the kidnappers are giving different government 24 hours before

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they carry out their threats to kill the hostage. The French Prime

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Minister has told a French radio station that the French government

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will have no discussion, no negotiation with the kidnappers. We

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don't give in to blackmail, you said, if you give them an inch you

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hand them victory. That has been the government line for a long time,

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there has been speculation that the countries or proxies perhaps get

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involved and help to secure the release of some hostages in the

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past, but the details of that are not completely clear and certainly

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the French government has always held to its line that it does not

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pay Branson is, it does not engage in prisoner exchanges. -- it does

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not pay ransoms. Israel says it has brought down a

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Syrian jet over the Golan Heights. Syria calls it an aggressive move.

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The Israeli army says it has killed two Palestinians suspected

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of involvement in the kidnapping and killing

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The kidnapping triggered an escalation of tensions with Hamas,

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culminating in the Gaza conflict, in which more than 2,200 people

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An Israeli army spokesman says the men were killed in an exchange

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of fire with Israeli special forces in Hebron, in the West Bank.

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Hong Kong's students have taken their protests to the government in

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the centre of the city, they are protesting against plans to vet

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candidates for the next election in 2015. Scuffles broke out as students

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ran towards the chief executive as the game out of a government

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building. Weeks after the start of the term

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in Pakistan, many state schools in the capital Islamabad are still

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closed, leaving thousands Many of the schools have been take

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over by police drafted in to deal And that's bad news for students

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and teachers. Our Pakistan correspondent

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Shaimaa Khalil went to one school Armed police at the entrance of the

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school. Not an everyday sight, even for Islamabad. Instead of students

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coming for the lessons every day, this school is now home to thousands

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of officers. They have been bussed in from hundreds of miles away. The

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courtyard where the children would normally have their assemblies is

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now used to drive the washing. TRANSLATION: The headmistress shows

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me around. Having more than a thousand policeman here has taken

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its toll on both the school and the students. I should not say angry,

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but I am desperate. I just want to open my school as normal. I wanted

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to open and the students to come. I want them to leave as soon as

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possible. I want them to leave as soon as possible. If they have to

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stay in as lamb are bad, they should find some other... They should leave

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the school 's -- if they have to stay in Islamabad. After a long

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shift on the streets, it is downtime for these men. Many have spent weeks

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away from home and want the protests to be over so they can return to

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their families. We are in a school auditorium, where children would

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normally come for school concerts and plays, but instead you can see I

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am surrounded by off-duty policeman. This has been turned into a

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makeshift living quarters for them. They sleep here, the ET, and they

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always have their riot gear next to them, ready for action. Look called

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-- a local journalist has come to pay school fees for lessons his

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daughter hasn't received. You can imagine for the last five to six

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weeks this college, not only this college, there are about 40 colleges

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and schools that have enclosed. Are you angry? Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry

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at the present government. It is the incompetence of the present

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government. They have put at stake the future of the children. For a

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country with some of the worst education rates in the world,

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Pakistan can't afford for any of its schools to be shut for long.

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Let me remind you of our top story and show you the latest pictures we

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have had here: These are the missile strikes from the US, launched from

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two carriers in the red Sea in the North Arabian Gulf, supported by

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Bahrain, Saudi, Qatari, and the UAE. These are the pictures of the

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aftermath of one of those strikes in Syria.

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This is BBC Well, BBC iWonder

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is full of great questions

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