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This is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Steph McGovern.

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An historic by-election win for the Conservatives as they gain

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In the first by-election win by a governing party for more

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than 30 years, Trudy Harrison takes the Cumbrian constituancy

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UKIP leader Paul Nuttall coming a distant second.

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We're live in both constituencies this morning and we have the latest

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Also this morning: Shock as Leicester City sack

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It's no happy ever after for the fairytale of Leicester City

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or Claudio Ranieri, as the manager who masterminded the most unlikely

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of Premier League titles is dropped by the club.

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After weeks of front page campaigns and political protest,

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the government has promised help for thousands of companies facing

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sharp increases in the amount they pay in business rates.

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Storm Doris brought us near misses like this,

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and disruption to roads, rail and air travel.

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As many people try to complete their journeys,

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Nick has the details on what the weather's

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Yes, good morning. Storm Doris is gone. It is cold and calm this

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morning. Many places will be dry. It will turn letter later. It is

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nowhere near as nasty as Storm Doris. I will be back with the full

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forecast. "A truly historic victory" -

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the words of new Conservative MP Trudy Harrison after taking

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the Labour seat of Copeland in last nights by-election, the first gain

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by a governing party since 1982. In the night's other result Labour

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did hold on to Stoke Central, with Ukip leader Paul Nuttall

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finishing in second place. Here's our political

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correspondent Tom Bateman. Harrison, Trudy. The Conservative

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Party candidate, 13700 and 48. Voters chose a Labour MP for the

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last 80 years. It all changed in a dramatic night as the Conservatives

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won by 2000 votes. What has happened tonight is a truly historic event.

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You would have to go back more than a century to find an example of a

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governing party taking a seat from the opposition party in an election

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like this. Labour said the vote was on a knife edge. In the aftermath of

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defeat the departing candidate tries not to face questions. This is a

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moment in history. The first time a conservative has represented the

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area since the 1930s. And for them tonight, jubilation. Serious

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questions for Labour under Jeremy Corbyn. It took place after the

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resignation of a Labour MP critical of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership.

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Theresa May may be rare move of visiting a by-election seat vacated

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by an opposition MP. It was a hardfought campaign of the nuclear

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jobs and hospital services. The result leaves Labour assessing its

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electoral prospects. But there was better news for Labour in the

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by-election in Stoke-on-Trent, and other traditional seat for the

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party. They held on with a reduced majority. The people of

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Stoke-on-Trent when provided with a range of candidates have opted a

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Labour candidate and me as a Member of Parliament. This campaign has

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been about many issues. While there might have been a slight decrease in

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our share of the vote, turnout was down on the last election, but I am

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happy with the result this evening. This by-election was a test for UKIP

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in a heavenly working-class area. It has increased its vote share. It was

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a bitter campaign during which the UKIP Leader attempted to fend off

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mounting personal criticism. UKIP's time will come. This will happen.

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Hang on. Hang on. This seat was number 72 on our hit list. A lot

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more will happen. There is a lot more to come. We are not going

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anywhere. I am not going anywhere. So we move on. There will be

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jubilation for Theresa May at the resort in Copland. Jeremy Corbyn

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promised he would reconnect with voters. He might have to try

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inspired offer the opposition for his own MPs.

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So let's just take a closer look at those results for the Copeland

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It was a conservative gain for Trudy Harrison

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Labour's Gill Troughton received 11,601.

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The Liberal Democrats' Rebecca Hanson got 2,252 votes.

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And Ukip's Fiona Mills received 2,025 votes.

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We can now speak to our political correspondent Tom Bateman

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who is in Whitehaven for us this morning.

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So, the Conservatives have said it is a truly historic victory. How

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significant is it? I think it is an astonishing moment because you have

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to go so many years back to find a Tory MP who represented this area.

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The last Tory before Trudy Harrison was born in the 1870s. That gives

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you a sense of just how dominant Labour has been in this area. And

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why, of course? We are talking about that. Normally at a by-election we

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would be talking about the governing party given a pummelling by voters.

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That is how it normally goes. It is rare to have this turn of events

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when an opposition party is defending a seat it has vacated and

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to lose it. Yet it has happened overnight. First of all I think

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there is going to be some happy faces in Downing Street this

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morning. Theresa May will be jubilant. She visited in a rare move

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last week. And it raises questions for Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. We

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have heard him say since the result Labour will reconnect with voters.

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The difficulty is he must do that knowing that many of his own MPs

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will use this to continue to argue the case perhaps privately and

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increasingly in public again that they believe he is an electoral

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liability for the party. Thank you very much.

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And just after 7am this morning we'll be speaking

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to the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell about the results.

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Leicester City has sacked manager Claudio Ranieri just nine months

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after he led the club's to its first Premier League title.

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The Foxes are only one point above the relegation zone

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He masterminded one of sport's greatest miracles, but less

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than a year after Claudio Ranieri's Leicester City became

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the most unlikely Premier League winners ever,

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the man who achieved the dream has been dismissed.

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Leicester City are the Premier League champions!

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Last season's celebrations have turned to fears of relegation.

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Having swept all before them, this season of the euphoria evaporated.

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And with Leicester languishing one point above the relegation zone the

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club decided to act. In a statement the chairman said...

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Managerial loyalties are notoriously short in supply in the Premier

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League but given what Ranieri achieved many will be dismayed.

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Former Leicester star Gary Lineker described it as... Ranieri's last

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game in charge was a 2-1 defeat against Sevilla in the last 16 of

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the Champions League. The managers seemingly unaware of his fate when

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he spoke after the match. We know, we know they are better than us,

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very high quality team, highly experienced team, everything, OK.

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But we have a very big part, and a very big effort, we help each other.

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And I think we deserve this. It is Leicester's poor performances in the

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Premier League that could see them become only the second English

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champions in history to see a title defence and in relegation and it is

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that which ultimately cost Ranieri his job. Their memories of what he

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achieved will always be cherished but the fairytale is now over.

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Malaysian police say they have found the highly toxic nerve agent,

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VX, on the face of Kim Jong-nam, the murdered half brother

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VX is the most toxic of the chemical warfare agents,

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and just a drop on the skin can kill in minutes.

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CCTV footage shows two women briefly holding something over

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Kim Jong Nam's face while he was preparing to board

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a flight at Kuala Lumpur airport last week.

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Donald Trump has said he wants to expand America's nuclear arsenal.

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In his first comments on the issue since taking office,

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the President said America had, "Fallen behind on nuclear weapon

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capacity," and must be, "Top of the pack."

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Police investigating the escape of a convicted murderer from custody

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have arrested two people on suspicion of assisting

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Merseyside Police detained a 27-year-old man and a 26-year-old

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woman in Liverpool in connection with Shaun Walmsley's escape.

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Walmsley, who is 28, went on the run when two men armed

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with a knife and a gun confronted prison officers guarding him

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at Aintree University Hospital on Tuesday afternoon.

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The clear-up continues this morning after Storm Doris battered much

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of the UK leaving one woman dead after being hit by flying debris.

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Winds of up to 94mph caused power cuts and travel chaos as flights

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were grounded and train services disrupted.

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Drivers are being warned to be wary of ice on the roads in the north

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Our correspondent Nick Quraishi is at London Euston where many

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We are told things will get back to normal today. Services were

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suspended for several hours yesterday. Things started running

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around 5pm but obviously there was huge backlog. The station stayed

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open overnight to cater for many stranded passengers. People are

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being told they can use tickets which they didn't use yesterday this

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morning and tomorrow. Similar situations down the road at King's

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Cross and St Pancras. There were wins of 94 mph, there were trees on

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the line and even a shed in Nuneaton on the West Coast Main Line. --

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winds. With the strong winds, it brought the death of a 29-year-old

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woman in Wolverhampton city centre. She was walking past Starbucks and

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this masonry fell on her, something the size of a copy to help could be

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seen being taken away. West Midlands Police and Wolverhampton City

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Council investigated in. And a schoolgirl is in a life-threatening

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condition we understand after a ceiling at a sports hall in Milton

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Keynes fell on her. Two other women were injured, a woman in her 60s

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when a carport fell on her and a man in Victoria Station in London. On

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the roads, many drivers had a lucky escape. One driving instructor, in

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fact, a tree fell in front of him as he was driving. Problems started in

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Scotland on the M80 with snow and there was no escape for air

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travellers too. Passengers on a flight in down to Manchester had a

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bumpy landing. And Heathrow and Aer Lingus cancelled flights. 24,000

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homes in Northern Ireland were without power. 40,000 in East

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Anglia. This morning, the problem is for ice in Northern Ireland,

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Scotland and north-west England. Thank you very much.

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It turns out the bee's knees are even better than we thought -

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it's been discovered bumblebees can teach each other how to score goals

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with a tiny ball, displaying a learning ability never before

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They surprised scientists by working out how to obtain a food reward

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In the experiment, the bees were placed on a platform and had

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to roll a yellow ball to a specific location in order to obtain

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Those that observed the success of other bees were better

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at learning the task than those that didn't.

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LAUGHTER. Why? Who cares? It is more like bee curling. Especially with

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Bumble Bee 11, Buzzy Izzard, in the B Top 11. You have been a busy bee.

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Buzzy Izzard once played for Leicester. And another thing that we

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can't explain, this fairytale, this match made in heaven. There is no

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happy ending for Claudio Ranieri. It seems so harsh. Especially the

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timing. They put in a good performance away in Seville. Even

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Jamie Vardy scored! And then he was gone the next day. You would have to

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think they have something lined up their sleeves.

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There's no room for sentiment in football -

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the harsh reality is that in 2017 Leicester have the worst record

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of any of the 92 football league clubs.

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No goals scored, and they've fallen to just one place and one point

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above the relegation zone, and so the miracle man,

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Claudio Ranieri, has paid the ultimate price with his job.

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As for who takes over, fellow Italian and former Man City

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boss Roberto Mancini is an early front runner.

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Elsewhere, Tottenham's Wembley woes struck again as they went out

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of the Europa League to Gent - they'd had England star Dele Alli

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sent off by the time the Belgian side made it 2-all on the night

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Flanker Jon Barclay will captain the Scotland side to face Wales

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in the Six Nations at Murrayfield tomorrow.

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Barclay, who plays his rugby in Wales, will lead the team

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in the absence of the injured Greig Laidlaw.

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World champion constructors Mercedes have unveiled their new car

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Hamilton said the car felt incredible.

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I will be back with Leicester reaction later on. Let's have a look

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at the weather. Nick, a day yesterday. How does it look today?

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Yesterday was completely horrible, today is a different story. This is

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a storm Doris, well away from the UK now. It has been taking strong winds

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across Germany into pollen but look how far away it is, how quickly it

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has moved. The UK this morning is finding itself in the gap between

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weather systems. It is colder this morning and there may be a risk of

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ice across parts of Scotland and northern England but, more

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importantly, it is much calmer and many of us will see dry and sunny

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weather for a time today here is the picture today. There may be a lot of

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cloud some patchy rain, sleet or snow across parts of Scotland. We

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have a few early showers brushing the eastern coast of England. They

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will pull away to the North Sea. One or two on the breeze pushing through

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into the Midlands. They will tend to die away but you concede a cloud

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this morning a lot of fine weather into southern England and notice,

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wherever you are um the strength of wind is down compared to yesterday.

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This is the picture through this morning. When you start with an

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early shower it will tend to fade. By midday nearly everyone is dry but

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there is another weather system coming into Northern Ireland,

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pushing and western Ireland and this is going to bring not only wetter

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weather but freshening the wind again. Nowhere near as messy as

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storm Doris. Temperatures around 5- 10 Celsius. Taking it through

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tonight there will be wet weather pushing through across the UK

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preceded by snow on the hills free time in Scotland. Gales develop

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again in north-west Scotland. Very little rain reaching southern

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England and it is a mild night to come because with this weather

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system coming in we have a flow of milder coming back into the UK. That

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is how we start the weekend and throughout the week and for most of

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us it will be on the mild side. It will be quite windy and there will

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be some rain around at times but not all the time. I will show you

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Saturday now, so we can see what to expect, a windy start with outbreaks

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of rain spreading south eastwards. Heavy as towards the hills of

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Scotland, moving into Cumbria. Easing a little bit into the

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afternoon. Brighter skies with a few showers. Very little rain reaching

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south-east England. Eastern areas generally not seeing as much rain as

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you would see further west. For part two of the weekend on Sunday we see

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another weather system coming in taking outbreaks of rain south

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eastwards with the breeze as well. Very little in the south-east

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England and notice that the temperatures for many of us are in

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two double figures. It will be calling to the start of next week.

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Weather systems around this weekend, it will be unsettled but nothing

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like storm Doris. That is how it looks.

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I think a lot of people will be pleased to hear that. It is 18

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minutes past six o'clock. The main stories this morning-

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A shock defeat for Labour - they lose their Copeland seat

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stories this morning- seat for the first time in more

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The Conservative victory is the biggest by a governing

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In a separate election, Labour hold onto their seat in Stoke.

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warehouse people with us now for a look through the papers. Letter look

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at the front pages first. Main story on the front page of the Daily Mail,

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we were covering the story yesterday, the news that Whirlpool,

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this is about tumble dryers in what the Mail is calling the deathtrap

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tumble dryers. The information out from Whirlpool is that they should

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not be used. If you have these particular tumble dryers, the fire

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risk now is so great that they should not be used recently. Over 15

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months here at they have been saying that you could use them and keep an

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eye on them when they were in use. In the Guardian this morning they

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pick up on the by-election results saying that labour saw off the

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challenge from UKIP in Stoke. The picture from yesterday, the storm

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yesterday which brought the worst weather of the winter. The Met

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Office referred to it as a weather bomb. From head to the Daily Mirror

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has the storm as well. Cars crushed by trees and on the front page of

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the times as well. Sean? Many of the newspapers are covering John Lewis

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cutting back on positions across the business. People in administration

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and customer restaurant, they will be consulted about their roles. A

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little bit of restructuring going on and we have heard a lot about that.

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A very nice picture in the Telegraph of the Royal mints, the new ?1

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coins. 12 sided, they will be. There is a nice pile of them. They are

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coming in in October. Now, they will be steadily brought in and there

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will be a period where you can use both coins. After October, however,

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the new ones, the old ones will cease to be legal tender. Do you

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think they will have a secret thing on again so will be worth more? Not

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at the moment, no. There is only 15 left. Did you say 12 sided? What is

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that? Dodecyl gone? Sounds good. Well, no surprise in the papers they

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are trying to make sense of why Leicester have gotten rid of rainy

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area. The back page of the Times blames the players. They forced him

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out, the special bond had gone and they had a meeting with the players

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in Spain and it was the players that convinced the board that he should

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go. Why do players never get the sack? They just get moved on. Is

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this a joke? No. They get moved on eventually but the manager pays the

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price first of all. The players are a collective, the manager is the one

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who got shot down. The other story is... There is a lot of anger about

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the players in the mail, saying the snakes, how could the snakes betray

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Ranieri. The day the game lost its soul. It seems quite mean, does it?

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Yes but in terms of form, there is only so much that fans can take full

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think very much. It is just coming up to 23 minutes past six.

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There are growing calls from patients, experts and nurses

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for better training and awareness of Sickle Cell disease.

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It's an inherited blood disorder that affects thousands of mostly

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African and Caribbean people in the UK.

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During a so-called Sickle Cell crises or episode, red blood cells

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change shape, causing intense pain and organ damage.

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And as Noel Phillips reports, just having the condition can make

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This boy was six when he died from organ failure, sepsis and sickle

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disease in 2015. He just kept saying mum, I want to lie Simone called

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emergency. Over the next hour his condition worsened. What happened on

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that day... I don't feel it was treated urgently enough when that

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person on the phone told me I would have to probably wait up to 45

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minutes for an ambulance. In an ambulances and a rapid response unit

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were dispatched but then cancelled and sent to more urgent cases.

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Shortly after paramedics arrived, the child went into cardiac arrest.

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I was a little bit panicked but I was not trying to show that I was

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panicked. But I was... It was serious then. Lola is one of the

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country's most senior sickle cell nurses. You combine vomiting,

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diarrhoea, that the mother said the child had a fever. You can buy most

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things together with the fact that the child has sickle cell disease

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and that should be a trigger sufficient to say that that child

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needs attention. In a statement, the ambulance service apologise for the

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delay in getting to the child. The medical director added that over the

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last few years they had worked closely with the sickle cell society

:24:57.:25:00.

to improve care to patients. They regularly ordered the care they

:25:01.:25:03.

provide and sickle cell training is given to all ambulance crews. It is

:25:04.:25:11.

like being stabbed while someone is pouring acid on you. This man is one

:25:12.:25:18.

of 15,000 people in Britain living with sickle cell disease. It causes

:25:19.:25:22.

crippling pain but he claims he has had to wait hours in hospital for

:25:23.:25:27.

treatment. Waiting in a cubicle for two plus hours. Jo Howard is a

:25:28.:25:37.

sickle cell consultant. In a recent report she says that staff shortages

:25:38.:25:41.

mean that patients are not getting the right care. Patients should not

:25:42.:25:45.

be left in pain. Patients should be treated within 30 minutes. I think

:25:46.:25:48.

that is an absolutely reasonable thing that we should be doing for

:25:49.:25:53.

every patient. I think all trusts should be aiming to do that. It is

:25:54.:25:58.

swelling up. I have had to teach the doctors about it. Lavinia has been

:25:59.:26:02.

living with the disease for 30 years. The understanding and the

:26:03.:26:11.

Korea is not there. Nurses don't learn while they are training, they

:26:12.:26:15.

learn on the job. The NHS as they are committed to providing patients

:26:16.:26:18.

with the high standards of treatment care and support. But she says the

:26:19.:26:24.

condition remains largely overlooked and like a sickle cell sufferers

:26:25.:26:25.

will remain difficult. Thank you to the families who took

:26:26.:26:36.

part in that report, reporting on the problems with sickle cell. We

:26:37.:26:37.

have reached 26 Plenty more on our website

:26:38.:26:38.

at the usual address. Now, though, it's back

:26:39.:30:01.

to Steph and Charlie. Hello, this is Breakfast

:30:02.:30:04.

with Charlie Stayt and Steph We'll bring you all the latest news

:30:05.:30:07.

and sport in a moment, After the author Helen Bailey

:30:08.:30:12.

was murdered by a man she met while grieving for her first

:30:13.:30:17.

husband, we'll speak to a charity for people whose partners have died,

:30:18.:30:20.

and ask if they can be particularly vulnerable when starting

:30:21.:30:23.

new relationships. After victory in Stoke

:30:24.:30:27.

and defeat in Cumbria, we'll ask the Shadow Chancellor John

:30:28.:30:29.

McDonnell what a mixed night for Labour means for the party

:30:30.:30:32.

and Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. And they've been in decline

:30:33.:30:37.

for years, but we'll find out about a new plan to save the UK's

:30:38.:30:40.

last remaining red squirrels and how But now a summary of this

:30:41.:30:44.

morning's main news. The Conservatives have won

:30:45.:30:49.

the Cumbrian seat of Copeland which had been in Labour's hands

:30:50.:30:52.

for more than 80 years. In the night's other result Labour

:30:53.:30:55.

held on to Stoke Central, with UKIP leader Paul Nuttall

:30:56.:30:58.

finishing in second place. This report from our political

:30:59.:31:00.

correspondent Tom Bateman contains Harrison, Trudy Lynn,

:31:01.:31:02.

the Conservative Party Voters here had chosen a Labour MP

:31:03.:31:16.

for the last 80 years. But all that changed in a dramatic

:31:17.:31:36.

night as the Conservatives took What has happened tonight

:31:37.:31:39.

is a truly historic event. You would have to go back more

:31:40.:31:43.

than a century to find an example of a governing party taking a seat

:31:44.:31:46.

from the opposition party Labour said the vote

:31:47.:31:49.

was on a knife edge. In the aftermath of defeat,

:31:50.:32:00.

the departing candidate chose not The first time a conservative has

:32:01.:32:02.

represented the area But serious questions for Labour

:32:03.:32:07.

under Jeremy Corbyn. Theresa May made the rare move

:32:08.:32:14.

of visiting a by-election seat It was a hardfought campaign

:32:15.:32:17.

of the nuclear jobs The result leaves Labour

:32:18.:32:21.

assessing its electoral prospects. But there was better news

:32:22.:32:24.

for Labour in the by-election in Stoke-on-Trent, another

:32:25.:32:29.

traditional seat for the party. They held on with

:32:30.:32:31.

a reduced majority. This by-election was a test

:32:32.:32:37.

for UKIP for UKIP in It just managed second place,

:32:38.:32:39.

but did increase its vote share. This seat was number

:32:40.:32:53.

72 on our hit list. So therefore, you know,

:32:54.:32:58.

we move on and our time will come. There will be jubilation

:32:59.:33:18.

for Theresa May at the result in Jeremy Corbyn promised

:33:19.:33:22.

he would reconnect with voters. He might have to try inspired offer

:33:23.:33:24.

the opposition for his own MPs. Our political correspondent

:33:25.:33:27.

Alex Forsyth joins us Talk us through what happened last

:33:28.:33:33.

night. And the thirsting notice is the UKIP campaign office behind you.

:33:34.:33:41.

This was where the campaign has been based over the last few weeks. The

:33:42.:33:46.

office is shut up. And when we have arrived, there is a red cross on the

:33:47.:33:50.

door, the significance is unclear, though some might say UKIP is not

:33:51.:33:54.

welcome in Stoke. This was a test for UKIP. This was their leader

:33:55.:33:59.

standing in a seat where people supported Brexit. And UKIP after the

:34:00.:34:05.

EU Referendum promised they would eat into the Labour vote in the

:34:06.:34:08.

heartlands, in areas like this in Stoke and they failed. UKIP have

:34:09.:34:13.

played down the significance this morning and said they did eat into

:34:14.:34:19.

the majority. It leaves questions for the party about what they stand

:34:20.:34:24.

for post EU Referendum and if they can't win in places like Stoke,

:34:25.:34:27.

where can they win? Talk through what happened in Copeland and the

:34:28.:34:37.

scale of the conservative victory? I don't think it could be

:34:38.:34:43.

underestimated. It was a very significant win in Copeland, long

:34:44.:34:48.

held by Labour, and Labour have said there were local issues dominating

:34:49.:34:51.

his campaign. We know that Jeremy Corbyn at the moment has some of the

:34:52.:34:56.

lowest ratings for a Labour leader for sometime, so it will renew

:34:57.:35:01.

questions over his leadership. We are some way off a leadership

:35:02.:35:05.

challenge. This will lend credibility to his critics who say

:35:06.:35:09.

Labour under Jeremy Corbyn isn't performing as it should. For the

:35:10.:35:10.

moment, thank you. Malaysian police say they have found

:35:11.:35:12.

the highly toxic nerve agent, VX, on the face of Kim Jong-nam,

:35:13.:35:16.

the murdered half brother VX is the most toxic

:35:17.:35:19.

of the chemical warfare agents, and just a drop on the skin

:35:20.:35:26.

can kill in minutes. CCTV footage shows two women briefly

:35:27.:35:29.

holding something over Kim Jong-nam's face

:35:30.:35:31.

while he was preparing to board a flight at Kuala Lumpur

:35:32.:35:34.

airport last week. Donald Trump says he wants to expand

:35:35.:35:39.

America's nuclear arsenal. In his first comments on the issue

:35:40.:35:42.

since taking office, Mr Trump said it would be

:35:43.:35:44.

"wonderful" if no nation had nuclear arms, but otherwise the US must

:35:45.:35:48.

be "top of the pack." The government is announcing plans

:35:49.:35:54.

for more universities to offer degree courses which last

:35:55.:35:57.

for just two years. The universities minister Jo Johnson

:35:58.:35:59.

will say students want more flexible courses which enable them to get

:36:00.:36:02.

into work more quickly. In return, universities will be able

:36:03.:36:05.

to increase annual tuition fees to more than ?13,000,

:36:06.:36:08.

although the overall cost of a degree will still

:36:09.:36:10.

be capped at ?27,000. The clear-up continues this morning

:36:11.:36:14.

after Storm Doris battered much of the UK leaving one woman dead

:36:15.:36:17.

after being hit by flying debris. Winds of up to 94mph caused power

:36:18.:36:20.

cuts and travel chaos as flights were grounded

:36:21.:36:23.

and train services disrupted. Drivers are being warned to be wary

:36:24.:36:27.

of ice on the roads in Scotland, Northern Ireland,

:36:28.:36:30.

and north-west England. And we've just got time to show

:36:31.:36:34.

you some amazing pictures of a modern day version

:36:35.:36:37.

of cat and mouse. But in this instance,

:36:38.:36:44.

the mouse was a drone and the cats, The rare tigers in north-east China

:36:45.:36:47.

were chasing a bird before spotting It didn't take long before

:36:48.:36:56.

the electronic device became prey, the drone at least managing

:36:57.:37:00.

to capture some incredible pictures It was down, yeah. Wow. It is quite

:37:01.:37:21.

scary, isn't it, when you see them come toward you. Now, where to

:37:22.:37:26.

start, with Leicester and Claudio Ranieri. The dream, the fairytale,

:37:27.:37:32.

is over. You'd have to think the board saw something, a breakdown

:37:33.:37:35.

between the players and Claudio Ranieri, the special relationship.

:37:36.:37:40.

Because a new manager coming in can't assign any players, so all he

:37:41.:37:44.

can do is try to motivate the set, so it has to be something they have

:37:45.:37:49.

seen. Already, people are asking about loyalty, where is loyalty in

:37:50.:37:54.

football? Yes, because Claudio Ranieri in summer had the chance to

:37:55.:37:59.

go to Italy, it was such a famous story, his stock rose to

:38:00.:38:03.

unprecedented heights, but he stayed at Leicester, turning that down,

:38:04.:38:07.

because he thought the special thing they had going could continue.

:38:08.:38:09.

We can remind ourselves of the special times, only nine months ago

:38:10.:38:16.

when he was king Claudio, defying the odds of 5000 to one, to do what

:38:17.:38:22.

many regarded as impossible, winning the Premier League title. Here he

:38:23.:38:28.

is, crowned by Kasper Schmeichel, but then they only really lost one

:38:29.:38:33.

main player to Chelsea, so you would have thought they could have stayed

:38:34.:38:37.

in the top six, but form has been abysmal, it has got worse, and he

:38:38.:38:41.

really is looking rather concerned. No away wins in the Premier League

:38:42.:38:46.

this season, no goals in the Premier League this year, the worst record

:38:47.:38:51.

of 92 Football League clubs in terms of form, although they offered hopes

:38:52.:38:56.

for fans against Seville in Spain just two nights ago when Jamie Vardy

:38:57.:39:04.

scored, but the border out there and according to some papers they spoke

:39:05.:39:10.

with players. And we have a statement, indeed.

:39:11.:39:27.

So, that is the harsh reality, that is what the board has set, but of

:39:28.:39:33.

course, you said there is no room for sentiment in football, and that

:39:34.:39:37.

is a feeling of hurt some up by a lot of the fans.

:39:38.:39:40.

Gary Lineker, former Leicester City player tweeted: "After all that

:39:41.:39:42.

Claudio Ranieri has done for Leicester City, to sack him now

:39:43.:39:45.

is inexplicable, unforgivable and gut-wrenchingly sad."

:39:46.:39:48.

Former Leicester forward Dion Dublin was also shocked by the news,

:39:49.:39:51.

Sacking the manager that won you the Premiere League title!

:39:52.:39:55.

And Manchester United's Manager Jose Mourinho offered his condolences

:39:56.:40:02.

to Mr Ranieri: "Sacked, that's the new football Claudio.

:40:03.:40:04.

Nobody can delete the history you wrote."

:40:05.:40:17.

I suppose the straw poll of Leicester fans I spoke with

:40:18.:40:22.

overnight, two thirds of think it was too soon and harsh, but there

:40:23.:40:29.

are some fans, like Chris in Bristol, Bristol-based Leicester

:40:30.:40:33.

fan, it is right for survival, he said, I can handle defeat but not

:40:34.:40:40.

the 92nd in form out of 92 clubs, and maybe Roberto Mancini is lined

:40:41.:40:44.

up already, we don't know, but the timing would suggest they have a

:40:45.:40:47.

plan in place. Roberto Mancini played for Leicester, he had the

:40:48.:40:54.

Premier League at all, but what is he like with relegation, in which

:40:55.:40:57.

Leicester is certainly involved in now. And some other sports as well?

:40:58.:41:03.

Oh, yes, we have. (LAUGHTER).. It was a busy night already.

:41:04.:41:07.

It was a dismal night for Tottenham - out of the Europa League

:41:08.:41:10.

after they could only draw 2-2 against Gent of Belgium at Wembley,

:41:11.:41:13.

Dismal especially for two of their England stars -

:41:14.:41:19.

His own goal making it 1-1 on the night.

:41:20.:41:27.

Then another of Spurs' England players, Dele Alli,

:41:28.:41:29.

was sent-off for this horrendous tackle.

:41:30.:41:35.

Tottenham out, leaving just Manchester United as the sole

:41:36.:41:37.

England captain Wayne Rooney says he is staying at Manchester United

:41:38.:41:42.

after being linked with a move to China.

:41:43.:41:44.

The 31-year-old striker said in a statement: "It's an exciting

:41:45.:41:47.

time at the club and I want to remain a part of it."

:41:48.:41:50.

Rooney's agent had travelled to China to see if he could

:41:51.:41:53.

negotiate a deal, which could still happen in the summer.

:41:54.:41:56.

Coach Vern Cotter has made five changes to Scotland's side that

:41:57.:41:59.

will face Wales in the Six Nations at Murrayfield tomorrow.

:42:00.:42:02.

Flanker Jon Barclay plays his rugby in Wales with the Scarlets,

:42:03.:42:05.

and will captain the team in the absence of the injured Greig

:42:06.:42:08.

Ali Price will take over from Laidlaw at scrum half.

:42:09.:42:13.

Fly half Johnny Sexton returns to the Ireland side for tomorrow's

:42:14.:42:16.

Sexton missed Ireland's first two games with a calf injury,

:42:17.:42:20.

but is back with Paddy Jackson dropping to the bench.

:42:21.:42:26.

Catalans Dragons beat Hull FC 16-14 to go top of rugby league's

:42:27.:42:31.

Luke Walsh kicked six out of six in a scrappy game

:42:32.:42:34.

and his last penalty confirmed victory for Catalans.

:42:35.:42:36.

I love the feeling when you get the keys to your new car, and that was

:42:37.:42:53.

the feeling for Lewis Hamilton yesterday.

:42:54.:42:53.

World champion constructors Mercedes have unveiled their new car

:42:54.:42:56.

It will be going a lot faster than this when the season starts

:42:57.:43:01.

But for now Lewis Hamilton, who was joined by new team-mate

:43:02.:43:05.

Valtteri Bottas, took the car for a few laps around

:43:06.:43:08.

Hamilton said the car felt incredible.

:43:09.:43:15.

That is a good sign, then. It is, yeah, he is happy. Thank you.

:43:16.:43:25.

Police in Malaysia say a powerful nerve agent called VX appears

:43:26.:43:28.

to have been used in last week's killing of Kim Jong Nam,

:43:29.:43:31.

the half brother of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un.

:43:32.:43:34.

In a statement, officials said traces of the agent,

:43:35.:43:36.

which is used in chemical warfare, were found on Kim Jong Nam's face.

:43:37.:43:40.

Our correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes joins us now

:43:41.:43:42.

This is a story which is quite baffling, really, and now this

:43:43.:43:55.

information about is highly toxic nerve agent, what more can you tell

:43:56.:44:03.

us? Yeah, this story continues to get more extraordinary as the days

:44:04.:44:08.

go by. So, what the authorities are telling us is after Kim Jong-nam

:44:09.:44:13.

died at the airport, on the way to the hospital from the airport last

:44:14.:44:17.

week, they took him to the morgue and did an autopsy, during which

:44:18.:44:21.

they swapped his face, especially cheeks and eyes, and they tested the

:44:22.:44:26.

swabs and it has taken 11 days to come back with the results but they

:44:27.:44:30.

said they found traces of the VX nerve agents on those swabs, which

:44:31.:44:38.

is serious, because VX is considered the most toxic nerve agent invented,

:44:39.:44:44.

invented in Britain in the 1950s. Large quantities were produced in

:44:45.:44:47.

America and the Soviet Union in the Cold War. It has subsequently been

:44:48.:44:53.

banned under UN chemical convention, so the fact it has been used in this

:44:54.:44:57.

killing makes this a whole new level on this killing. Yeah, and also

:44:58.:45:07.

looking at what the Malaysians have said, they don't blame the North

:45:08.:45:11.

Korean state, but they say North Korea was clearly behind it, so

:45:12.:45:19.

what's happening? Well, it is very unclear, is the short answer. They

:45:20.:45:24.

are not at the moment accusing the North Korean state of direct

:45:25.:45:28.

involvement. However, circumstantial evidence so far points to a plot

:45:29.:45:34.

based in North Korea, or at least in the North Korean and busy in Kuala

:45:35.:45:39.

Lumpur. There are women in custody thought to have been carrying out

:45:40.:45:43.

the killing, they are not North Korean, but the other suspects named

:45:44.:45:47.

are North Korean nationals, and one of them they want to talk to is a

:45:48.:45:53.

diplomat from the embassy here, but the North Koreans are refusing to

:45:54.:45:57.

hand him over. What happens next? There is this other person they want

:45:58.:46:05.

to talk to. What happens next? Well, we are locked in a stalemate. North

:46:06.:46:10.

Korea will not back down or hand over people who are wanted. There is

:46:11.:46:16.

the potential for a diplomatic rift. I have heard people say they will

:46:17.:46:21.

have to do something in retaliation, even kicking the North Korean

:46:22.:46:25.

ambassador out of here. This is now very, very serious. And, as you say,

:46:26.:46:31.

a really extraordinary story. Thank you very for your time.

:46:32.:46:37.

The table that the weather. Things have calmed down? Absolutely. A

:46:38.:46:46.

different story now. These is storm Doris with very fast wind speeds,

:46:47.:46:51.

the whole system was moving very quickly so look where it is now. It

:46:52.:46:57.

has taken those stormy conditions through Germany and into pollen. It

:46:58.:47:01.

is weakening and we find ourselves between weather systems as morning.

:47:02.:47:06.

A higher it pressure ridge and a cold flow of air. Watch out few icy

:47:07.:47:12.

patches on untreated surfaces. A far more calm story this morning and a

:47:13.:47:16.

brighter story as well. Some cloud around in Scotland and a little bit

:47:17.:47:21.

of patchy light rain in a few spots are not amounting to very much. Icy

:47:22.:47:25.

in places again. Some showers coast to the eastern coast of England. One

:47:26.:47:30.

or two filtering through parts of north Wales in north-west England

:47:31.:47:35.

into the Midlands. Quite hit and miss. At eight o'clock in the

:47:36.:47:38.

morning a lot of dry and sunny weather and look at the wind speed

:47:39.:47:42.

here. They are much lower compared with yesterday. A fine day for many

:47:43.:47:49.

of us, even where you start with a shower roundabout midday the vast

:47:50.:47:52.

majority is to be dry with sunshine. Another weather system is coming in

:47:53.:47:55.

and back this afternoon will bring rain across Northern Ireland and by

:47:56.:47:59.

the end of the day into western parts of Scotland. Nowhere near as

:48:00.:48:03.

nasty as storm Doris. Temperature is down compared to yesterday so maybe

:48:04.:48:09.

five to 10 degrees. We will take some wet weather, particularly

:48:10.:48:12.

across the northern half of the UK, preceded by snow urban ills in

:48:13.:48:16.

Scotland. Back to the rain, the wind freshening and our strengthening

:48:17.:48:20.

again cross north battling north-west Scotland. Lottery but

:48:21.:48:23.

milder with plenty of cloud around as we start of Saturday morning. It

:48:24.:48:28.

takes is on to the weekend and what can we expect? Mild compared to

:48:29.:48:32.

today. It will be windy again, nothing like the storm, most of us

:48:33.:48:36.

will see rain at some stage but not all the time. It is quite a messy

:48:37.:48:40.

picture as we start off on Saturday morning. Windy wherever you are.

:48:41.:48:44.

Dales for some of us, if this were close to the west and inner

:48:45.:48:48.

north-west Scotland. Rain heading south-east, not much down the

:48:49.:48:52.

eastern side of the UK and into Saturday afternoon expected to turn

:48:53.:48:55.

will be brighter in Scotland and Northern Ireland just a couple of

:48:56.:48:58.

showers around and temperatures for many back into double figures the

:48:59.:49:02.

whiz by blustery. On Sunday we bring in another wet weather system so

:49:03.:49:06.

gets wet for a time. Scotland into Cumbria, quite wet throughout the

:49:07.:49:12.

weekend, pushing south -- south eastwards. The breeze nothing

:49:13.:49:14.

compared to storm Doris and temperatures hitting double figures

:49:15.:49:17.

although will be turning colder the start of next week. The main message

:49:18.:49:21.

to the weekend, it is looking unsettled and quite blustery at

:49:22.:49:27.

times but we put storm Doris behind us. A lot of people will be pleased

:49:28.:49:29.

to hear that. Thank you, Nick. Sean's here - and he's looking

:49:30.:49:31.

at business rates this morning It is a fair thing to call this one

:49:32.:49:48.

an argument because it has been backbench MPs of the Conservative

:49:49.:49:51.

parties, many newspapers here, the mail the Telegraph and the Times

:49:52.:49:55.

last week to have let on this several times. It has has been a big

:49:56.:49:57.

talking point. Well it was all about over

:49:58.:50:01.

the government's proposals to increase business rates that

:50:02.:50:03.

are due to come about in April. There are nearly 2 million

:50:04.:50:10.

businesses across the UK that will see rates come in at some point.

:50:11.:50:15.

This is all about the proposal of the government to see those rates

:50:16.:50:18.

increase next month. Those properties in England and Wales are

:50:19.:50:22.

liable for business rates. Our tax is charged on properties like

:50:23.:50:26.

offices and factories. The amount is based on how much rain could be

:50:27.:50:29.

charged on those buildings that they are rain. If this are currently

:50:30.:50:35.

playing rates on property valuations from 2008. They have now been

:50:36.:50:38.

revalued in the raids recalculated with many winners and losers.

:50:39.:50:43.

According to the government, over 1 million ratepayers will see no

:50:44.:50:46.

change. Or, their bill will go down. But it is as loud half a million

:50:47.:50:51.

businesses will see them go up, and some of them significantly. We have

:50:52.:50:55.

had a lot of pressure we have heard this week that there may be some

:50:56.:50:59.

help announced in the budget in just under a couple weeks time. We can

:51:00.:51:02.

talk now to Christian spencer was head of research and policy at the

:51:03.:51:05.

greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce. Christian, because it is

:51:06.:51:12.

so closely linked to property prices is it just about the south-east and

:51:13.:51:16.

London think Robbie prices go up and rates go up in the rest of the

:51:17.:51:20.

country benefiting? As a broad generalisation that is a reasonable

:51:21.:51:22.

assumption that the proper market across the UK is highly varied. We

:51:23.:51:28.

feel of fluctuation in Manchester amongst the city and the outlying

:51:29.:51:32.

areas. At a high level, yes, but with the winners and losers appear

:51:33.:51:36.

in all sorts of odd places. People who expect changes to come in next

:51:37.:51:39.

month, you still hear from businesses that I talk to that they

:51:40.:51:43.

don't know the exact figure that they will be paying. As the

:51:44.:51:46.

government run this as smoothly as it could have done? There have been

:51:47.:51:50.

many challenges. This goes to the heart of some of the complexity and

:51:51.:51:54.

the system we have been working with government with over several years

:51:55.:52:01.

now. There are still some rates outstanding from the 2010 in grief.

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That gives a sense of how collocated things are. Businesses have seen a

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draft revaluations to 2017. Businesses are looking at those many

:52:13.:52:16.

are already that these do not appear to be in line with where we would

:52:17.:52:20.

expect them to be and we can expect a large set of appeals. Businesses

:52:21.:52:24.

who are your members will have known that these revaluations were coming

:52:25.:52:27.

in and they will have known how much the property price would have

:52:28.:52:30.

changed since 2008, 2010. Is it fair to say that some businesses could

:52:31.:52:34.

have been more prepared for these changes? It is difficult because the

:52:35.:52:37.

process can take so long and bills can arrive close to the start of a

:52:38.:52:42.

new financial year. There is also a question about many businesses about

:52:43.:52:45.

how the valuations are arrived at themselves by the body who does it.

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Even though once businesses know, of course, what the rent their pain is

:52:51.:52:53.

on the valuation of a property is, sometimes the weather 's calculation

:52:54.:52:57.

is are arrived at and give a very different number to what they

:52:58.:53:01.

actually pay. And there has been a little bitter criticism that big

:53:02.:53:04.

companies like Amazon have big warehouses that around town, seen

:53:05.:53:07.

reductions on the business rates there while small shops on high

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Street may see rises. You see that as well? Absolutely. And it is the

:53:12.:53:20.

idea that people operating with his taxes similar to that of a land tax,

:53:21.:53:26.

business rates is not about land it is about the business itself, the

:53:27.:53:29.

building itself and even the kinds of machinery that sits within the

:53:30.:53:32.

business. That means you can get buried peculiar distortions. Thank

:53:33.:53:38.

you for your time. We got there in the end. About 500,000 businesses

:53:39.:53:41.

will see a rate rise and that is where much of the talk is coming

:53:42.:53:45.

from. Or in the budget in all just over a week. 653 now.

:53:46.:53:49.

We've known for years that the red squirrel population is in decline,

:53:50.:53:53.

and conservationists have been working hard

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Now animal lovers are getting a chance to do their bit,

:53:55.:53:59.

the Wildlife Trusts are uniting to recruit thousands of volunteers

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Aisling McVeigh has been to Mere Sands Wood nature reserve

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Red squirrels were once a common sight across much of the UK.

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The introduction of their grey cousins 141 years ago spelt disaster

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Carrying a disease which killed reds,

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the greedy grey squirrel dominates our landscape more

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than a century on, with more than 2.5 million of them around.

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There are just 140,000 reds in comparison.

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But in recent years efforts to protect reds have had some

:54:38.:54:40.

success and now for the first time the wildlife trusts are combining

:54:41.:54:45.

to recruit 5,000 volunteers to help with these conservation efforts.

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People will be asked to monitor and record data and,

:54:52.:54:53.

if they're willing, they'll be given training on how to cull

:54:54.:54:56.

They're hoping the Red Squirrels United project will not only

:54:57.:55:05.

maintain but maybe even increase numbers.

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We can train people to help with the monitoring,

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using cameras and tubes, we also need people to record

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their sightings and report them to us and also help

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It's a really great opportunity for people to get involved

:55:16.:55:19.

in a large-scale conservation project at a local level and really

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Most of us will never get this close to a baby squirrel.

:55:23.:55:32.

This map shows how many red squirrels were around. The campaign

:55:33.:55:39.

had to focus efforts of volunteers on the nine areas where there are

:55:40.:55:44.

already reads oral including the Glens of Northern Ireland, Anglesey

:55:45.:55:48.

in ways of Wales and Merseyside in England. The volunteer project of

:55:49.:55:53.

saving the red squirrels in Scotland will also got under way. Most of us

:55:54.:55:58.

will never get this close to a baby 's

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-- Most of us will never get this close to a baby squirrel.

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Rachel is nursing this one back to health.

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But with this campaign there's a chance to make sure this native

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species survives and maybe even flourishes once again in the UK.

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We will talk more about how you can get involved in this project at

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around ten minutes to nine this morning.

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of next week with sunny spells and showers.

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I'm back with the latest from BBC London newsroom

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Plenty more on our website at the usual address.

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Now, though, it's back to Steph and Charlie.

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Hello, this is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Steph

:59:47.:00:00.

An historic by-election win for the Conservatives as they gain

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Harrison, Trudy, the Conservative Party candidate, 13,748.

:00:04.:00:26.

In the first by-election gain by a governing party for more

:00:27.:00:29.

than 30 years, Trudy Harrison takes the Cumbrian constituancy

:00:30.:00:31.

UKIP keep their seat with Paul Nuttall. We have the latest

:00:32.:00:40.

reaction. Good morning, it's Friday,

:00:41.:00:48.

the 24th of February. Also this morning:

:00:49.:00:55.

Shock as Leicester City sack their Premier League winning

:00:56.:00:59.

manager. There's no happy ever

:01:00.:01:01.

after for the fairytale of Leicester City or Claudio Ranieri

:01:02.:01:03.

as the manager who masterminded the most unlikely of Premier League

:01:04.:01:06.

titles is dropped by the club. The Royal Bank of Scotland

:01:07.:01:14.

which also owns NatWest and Ulster Bank is just

:01:15.:01:17.

about to publish its full The bank which is 73% owned

:01:18.:01:20.

by the taxpayer is widely expected I'll bring you the full

:01:21.:01:23.

details when I get them. Storm Doris brought us

:01:24.:01:27.

disruption to roads, As many people try to complete

:01:28.:01:29.

their broken journeys today, Nick has the details

:01:30.:01:33.

on what the weather's Yes, good morning. Some disruption

:01:34.:01:40.

may continue into today but Storm Doris has gone. We are in a calm,

:01:41.:01:45.

cold spell of weather as we start this Friday morning. Rain coming to

:01:46.:01:49.

Northern Ireland and western Scotland later with freshening wind.

:01:50.:01:54.

I have the Friday forecast and a look at the weekend of weather

:01:55.:01:55.

coming up. "A truly historic victory" -

:01:56.:01:58.

the words of new conservative MP Trudy Harrison after taking

:01:59.:02:02.

the Labour seat of Copeland in last nights by-election, the first gain

:02:03.:02:05.

by a governing party since 1982. In the night's other result Labour

:02:06.:02:08.

did hold on to Stoke Central, with UKIP leader Paul Nuttall

:02:09.:02:12.

finishing in second place. This report from our political

:02:13.:02:14.

correspondent Tom Bateman Harrison, Trudy Lynn,

:02:15.:02:16.

the Conservative Party candidate, Voters here had chosen a Labour MP

:02:17.:02:25.

for the last 80 years. But all that changed in a dramatic

:02:26.:02:34.

night as the Conservatives took What has happened here tonight

:02:35.:02:38.

is a truly historic event. You'd have to go back more

:02:39.:02:54.

than a century to find an example of a governing party taking a seat

:02:55.:02:57.

from the opposition party Labour had said the vote

:02:58.:03:01.

was on a knife edge. In the aftermath of defeat,

:03:02.:03:06.

their departing candidate chose not The first time a Conservative has

:03:07.:03:09.

represented the area But serious questions for Labour

:03:10.:03:15.

under Jeremy Corbyn. Theresa May made the rare move

:03:16.:03:22.

of visiting a by-election seat It was a hardfought

:03:23.:03:25.

campaign over nuclear jobs The result leaves Labour

:03:26.:03:31.

assessing its electoral prospects. But there was better news

:03:32.:03:37.

for Labour in the by-election in Stoke-on-Trent, another

:03:38.:03:40.

traditional seat for the party. They held on with

:03:41.:03:42.

a reduced majority. This by-election

:03:43.:03:52.

was a test for UKIP in a working-class area that voted

:03:53.:04:01.

hard for Brexit. It just managed second place,

:04:02.:04:03.

but did increase its vote share. This seat was number

:04:04.:04:06.

72 on our hit list. So therefore, you know,

:04:07.:04:11.

we move on and our time will come. There will be jubilation

:04:12.:04:21.

for Theresa May at the result in Jeremy Corbyn promised

:04:22.:04:24.

he would reconnect with voters. He may have to try in spite

:04:25.:04:32.

of futher opposition We can now speak to our political

:04:33.:04:34.

correspondent Tom Bateman who is in Whitehaven

:04:35.:04:40.

for us this morning. A lovely scene behind you and one

:04:41.:04:46.

that the Conservative Party will be very pleased with today. Absolutely.

:04:47.:04:50.

I think the calm waters and the gulls circling above are not

:04:51.:04:54.

reflective of the political tsunami which has taken place in this part

:04:55.:04:58.

of the world overnight. It is astonishing. Normally these mornings

:04:59.:05:03.

we talk of the pummelling the governing party has taken. And yet

:05:04.:05:07.

here we are in Copeland, it has been Labour for as long as anyone can

:05:08.:05:11.

remember, and we are talking about Labour losing the seat to the

:05:12.:05:18.

Conservatives. As for the candidate, Trudy Harrison, she was clear that

:05:19.:05:22.

this meant the Tories were the party of the working people. That will cut

:05:23.:05:26.

to the heart of what Labour MPs are concerned about, that they believe

:05:27.:05:31.

Jeremy Colburn has failed to cut through to those Labour heartlands,

:05:32.:05:38.

especially in working-class areas. Labour say there are specific

:05:39.:05:43.

dynamics. It is about jobs in the nuclear industry. When you look at

:05:44.:05:47.

the victory in Stoke it shows that they can win. However, at the end of

:05:48.:05:51.

this, we are looking at more political trouble for Jeremy Colburn

:05:52.:05:55.

from his own MPs. Thank you very much. It looks gorgeous.

:05:56.:05:57.

In a few minutes we'll be speaking to the Shadow Chancellor John

:05:58.:06:00.

Leicester City has sacked manager Claudio Ranieri just nine months

:06:01.:06:04.

after he led the club's to its first Premier League title.

:06:05.:06:07.

The Foxes are only one point above the relegation zone

:06:08.:06:09.

He masterminded one of sport's greatest miracles, but less

:06:10.:06:20.

than a year after Claudio Ranieri's Leicester City became the most

:06:21.:06:24.

unlikely Premier League winners ever, the man who achieved the dream

:06:25.:06:27.

Leicester City are the Premier League champions!

:06:28.:06:32.

Last season's celebrations have turned to fears of relegation.

:06:33.:06:43.

Having swept all before them, this season the euphoria has evaporated.

:06:44.:06:50.

The champions losing their last five league matches.

:06:51.:06:52.

And with Leicester languishing one point above the relegation zone

:06:53.:06:54.

In a statement, the club's chairman said...

:06:55.:07:05.

Managerial loyalties are notoriously short in supply

:07:06.:07:13.

in the Premier League but, given what Ranieri achieved,

:07:14.:07:16.

Former Leicester star Gary Lineker described it as...

:07:17.:07:26.

Ranieri's last game in charge was this 2-1 defeat against Sevilla

:07:27.:07:29.

in the last 16 of the Champions League.

:07:30.:07:31.

The manager seemingly unaware of his fate when he spoke

:07:32.:07:34.

We know, we know they are better than us, very high quality team,

:07:35.:07:40.

highly experienced team, everything, OK.

:07:41.:07:46.

But we have a very big heart, and a very big effort,

:07:47.:07:49.

But it is Leicester's poor performances in the Premier League

:07:50.:07:56.

that could see them become only the second English

:07:57.:07:58.

champions in history to see a title defence and in relegation

:07:59.:08:00.

champions in history to see a title defence end in relegation

:08:01.:08:03.

and it is that which ultimately cost Ranieri his job.

:08:04.:08:06.

Their memories of what he achieved will always be cherished

:08:07.:08:08.

Well, we just have news in from RBS, Sean is here, another year of

:08:09.:08:23.

losses, I mean, nine years of annual losses. And it is a lot bigger than

:08:24.:08:29.

last year as well, so last year it was ?2 billion, but today we have

:08:30.:08:35.

seen ?7 billion the Royal Bank of Scotland lost in 2016, a lot of it

:08:36.:08:39.

to do with what they call one off costs, but when you're talking about

:08:40.:08:43.

nine years of not making a profit, it seems to happen on a regular

:08:44.:08:50.

basis. So, litigation costs in the US, PPI compensation, that is still

:08:51.:08:54.

in as well, they are trying to get rid of a lot of their branches,

:08:55.:08:58.

Williams unclean branches, which they had to sell, and they have to

:08:59.:09:03.

try to get rid of, which didn't work, it has cost ?1 billion as well

:09:04.:09:12.

-- Glynn. It is important for two reasons. The taxpayer owns three

:09:13.:09:16.

quarters of the bank. Any losses that banks make, three quarters is

:09:17.:09:21.

effectively taxpayers. It is important that banks do well. They

:09:22.:09:24.

need to lend to small businesses and be able to give customers

:09:25.:09:28.

confidence. When you think ?7 billion is being lost over the year,

:09:29.:09:32.

that money could be used in much better ways. And is interesting

:09:33.:09:36.

because we have Lloyd's results and that was a bank that we pumped money

:09:37.:09:40.

into in the financial crisis and that is a different story

:09:41.:09:44.

completely. Completely the opposite. Lloyds didn't have the legacy issues

:09:45.:09:48.

from the financial crisis which RBS has had and that is why RBS said,

:09:49.:09:53.

these are legacy problems, fundamentally, the bank is doing OK

:09:54.:09:57.

but they don't expect to make a profit until 2018. Thank you very

:09:58.:10:01.

much. I know that you will talk about it more a little later on.

:10:02.:10:03.

Malaysian police say the highly toxic nerve agent,

:10:04.:10:09.

VX, has been found on the face of Kim Jong-nam,

:10:10.:10:12.

the murdered half brother of North Korea's leader.

:10:13.:10:14.

VX is an extremely toxic Chemical warfare agent and just a drop

:10:15.:10:19.

CCTV footage showed two women briefly holding something over

:10:20.:10:23.

Kim Jong-nam's face while he was preparing to board

:10:24.:10:26.

a flight at Kuala Lumpur airport last week.

:10:27.:10:31.

More on one of the main stories this morning, reaction to the

:10:32.:10:34.

by-elections last night. Lets get some reaction

:10:35.:10:39.

from the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, who joins us

:10:40.:10:41.

now from Westminster. Thank you for your time this

:10:42.:10:47.

morning. We want to talk about your Labour success in Stoke. What

:10:48.:10:51.

reflections can you draw on that victory? Well, I think it is a

:10:52.:10:57.

significant victory. I don't think just for the Labour Party, a

:10:58.:11:00.

significant victory for politics in this country overall. Remember, what

:11:01.:11:06.

was predicted by a lot of the media was UKIP would win the seat, it

:11:07.:11:11.

would be the start of them destroying the Labour Party in the

:11:12.:11:16.

north, and what the people Stoke done for all of us is they have

:11:17.:11:21.

rejected the politics of division and dishonesty, so I think the

:11:22.:11:24.

people of Stoke have done this country real service. I am pleased

:11:25.:11:28.

that we won the seat. Obviously it was a hard campaign. And I am

:11:29.:11:36.

pleased we turned back UKIP. They threw everything at it. The people

:11:37.:11:42.

of state have done us a service. Do you think Paul Nuttall is finished?

:11:43.:11:48.

Well, that is for UKIP and him, but, I tell you, on the streets of Stoke,

:11:49.:11:52.

when I was up there, people were very angry about, well, the

:11:53.:11:57.

dishonesty of the UKIP campaign, and the way in which they try to divide

:11:58.:12:01.

the community. What the people of Stoke said last night is that we

:12:02.:12:05.

will not be divided, and they concentrated on the issues which

:12:06.:12:09.

concern them, and it was the same, well, jobs, the NHS and the future

:12:10.:12:14.

public services. So, I am pleased we won last night. Their more work to

:12:15.:12:19.

do in Stoke, developing the economy, supporting the community, and we

:12:20.:12:23.

will work in that community to develop local plans, work with local

:12:24.:12:27.

people, with a terrific local MP. People might detect there isn't

:12:28.:12:32.

celebration in your time this morning, and they will know of

:12:33.:12:36.

course it will be linked with what happened in Copeland. Now, to put

:12:37.:12:41.

this in perspective, effectively, not in living memory has a

:12:42.:12:44.

conservative being an MP in that area. To what do you attribute what

:12:45.:12:50.

happened? Well, just to comment on what you said, I don't think in

:12:51.:12:54.

Stoke, for example, we should be triumphant, in any way. It was a

:12:55.:13:01.

hardfought campaign. I am so please we defeated UKIP and turn them back

:13:02.:13:05.

and I think Stoke has done us all, politics in general and his country,

:13:06.:13:09.

a real service, but yes, it was mixed fortunes, and I am

:13:10.:13:13.

disappointed about Copeland. If you were to choose two constituencies

:13:14.:13:17.

which would be the most difficult to fight at the moment, one would be

:13:18.:13:22.

Stoke, with the UKIP threat, and remember, that was the largest

:13:23.:13:25.

Brexit vote in the whole of the country, when we were campaigning to

:13:26.:13:28.

remain, which would have been difficult, and Copeland was the

:13:29.:13:31.

other one, with unique circumstances, the Labour vote has

:13:32.:13:36.

eroded over a number of elections now, but this issue around the

:13:37.:13:39.

future of the nuclear industry clearly dominated election

:13:40.:13:43.

campaigns. Not that we campaign very hard on the NHS, and although we

:13:44.:13:47.

gave the community assurances on the future of nuclear in the area, a lot

:13:48.:13:53.

of the disinformation, misinformation from the

:13:54.:13:55.

Conservatives really meant we couldn't convince people about that.

:13:56.:14:00.

So, yes, I'm disappointed, but it is not unexpected given the unique

:14:01.:14:04.

circumstances in Copeland itself. Is that really the best you have got,

:14:05.:14:08.

blaming the defeat on misinformation and disinformation? Not at all, we

:14:09.:14:14.

are in the most difficult circumstances as a party for a

:14:15.:14:19.

series of reasons. For the last, what, 20 months since Jeremy Corbyn

:14:20.:14:23.

was elected, we have been through two leadership elections. It has

:14:24.:14:27.

been a major distraction. We are coming out of the Brexit vote, which

:14:28.:14:31.

we lost, we campaigned to remain and the country voted to Brexit.

:14:32.:14:36.

Difficult circumstances. And it says clearly as well that people will not

:14:37.:14:41.

vote for a divided party. We have looked divided over the last 20

:14:42.:14:43.

months with the leadership challenges. The lesson is, we have

:14:44.:14:50.

to unite. In Copeland, there were special circumstances over the

:14:51.:14:55.

nuclear issue and we could link up through. One of the circumstances is

:14:56.:15:00.

not very special, is it, the NHS, and the issue your party campaigned

:15:01.:15:04.

over, specifically, a maternity unit in that area. This is one of your

:15:05.:15:12.

core subjects, in an area you campaigned hard on, Jeremy Corbyn in

:15:13.:15:15.

the House of Commons talked about it directly. Now, if you can't get some

:15:16.:15:21.

kind of leverage under those circumstances, people were thinking,

:15:22.:15:26.

well, when? Well, it is interesting, because campaigning on the NHS has

:15:27.:15:30.

been near the top of people's concerns in opinion after opinion

:15:31.:15:33.

poll, so we are having a breakthrough on the NHS as an issue

:15:34.:15:38.

itself, but in Copeland, unfortunately, the nuclear industry

:15:39.:15:42.

and the future of jobs, especially the issue about the Moorside

:15:43.:15:45.

development which was in jeopardy, people concentrated on the issue of

:15:46.:15:50.

jobs. I think the NHS was a matter of concern in Copeland and I am

:15:51.:15:54.

hoping the government does not take his victory in Copeland as a green

:15:55.:16:00.

light to close the maternity services and attack the accident and

:16:01.:16:03.

emergency services, and we will continue to campaign to protect the

:16:04.:16:07.

NHS against the conservative cuts. I have to ask whether you spoke with

:16:08.:16:11.

Jeremy Corbyn directly, and the other question for you, as a friend

:16:12.:16:15.

of his, a colleague and a friend, are you prepared to have that

:16:16.:16:21.

conversation one day, which is, do you know what, as your friend, and

:16:22.:16:25.

as your colleague, Soomin Lee get about the Labour Party, maybe, just

:16:26.:16:30.

maybe, now is the time to think about stepping down? This isn't

:16:31.:16:35.

about Jeremy Corbyn, this is about the position of the Labour Party for

:16:36.:16:39.

the future. We have had a difficult period over the last 20 months with

:16:40.:16:43.

the leadership talent is, because of divisions which have been sown

:16:44.:16:47.

within the party. The vast majority of members, the vast, vast majority,

:16:48.:16:52.

want us to unite and campaign and hold the government to account, and

:16:53.:16:56.

that is what we will do. These by-elections were difficult ones. We

:16:57.:17:00.

knew that. We have lost Copeland. We will learn lessons from that. But we

:17:01.:17:05.

have won in Stoke and we have defeated I think something which was

:17:06.:17:09.

really dangerous politics in this country. We have turned back the

:17:10.:17:13.

politics of dishonesty and division and, as I say, the people of Stoke,

:17:14.:17:19.

by supporting Labour, have done us all a service in this. John

:17:20.:17:24.

McDonnell, thank you for your time this morning.

:17:25.:17:25.

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

:17:26.:17:33.

To storm to the Doris continues this morning.

:17:34.:17:36.

Flights grounded, trains disrupted. Let's find out the forecast in a

:17:37.:17:45.

couple of minutes but first let's talk to our correspondent outside

:17:46.:17:50.

Euston station. It was a dramatic day yesterday with many trains

:17:51.:17:54.

cancelled and delayed. What is it like there today? We are told that

:17:55.:17:59.

things will get back to normal today. Late yesterday morning the

:18:00.:18:06.

station effectively ground to a halt because there were no services

:18:07.:18:09.

operating. People were told not to trouble. Things started to return at

:18:10.:18:15.

about five in the afternoon that you will understand there is a backlog

:18:16.:18:19.

of travellers and, in fact, the station remained open through the

:18:20.:18:22.

night to cater for stranded passengers. People who could not

:18:23.:18:27.

travel yesterday, are allowed to use their tickets this morning and

:18:28.:18:30.

tomorrow morning. Other problems on the roads which I will come to an

:18:31.:18:36.

and it, with the wind there was a fatality, a woman in her 20s, a

:18:37.:18:40.

29-year-old woman died in Wolverhampton city centre after

:18:41.:18:45.

masonry fell on her. A number of other people were injured including

:18:46.:18:48.

a 13-year-old schoolgirl when a ceiling fell on her at a sports

:18:49.:18:52.

hall. On the road is a driver instructor in Spalding had a lucky

:18:53.:18:58.

escape when a tree fell in front of him. Problems at the airport is and

:18:59.:19:02.

power was out to thousands of homes in Northern Ireland in East Anglia.

:19:03.:19:05.

Most of those have now been restored. Thank you very much. An

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important part of all of this is what is happening with the weather

:19:10.:19:15.

today. Let's find out. Good morning. We heard there about the wind gust

:19:16.:19:20.

of 94 MPh yesterday. If you wonder about some of the wind speaking EU

:19:21.:19:25.

here are a selection of the thunderstorm. As fast as these winds

:19:26.:19:30.

were blowing, storm Doris was moving quickly across the UK. It is now

:19:31.:19:35.

actually long gone. This is where Doris is at the moment, taking no

:19:36.:19:38.

stormy conditions through Germany and Poland and we have a look reach

:19:39.:19:43.

of high pressure built across the UK. It is far calmer this morning.

:19:44.:19:48.

And relaxed. It is also cold out there this morning. A touch of frost

:19:49.:19:52.

across parts the northern half of UK. Watch out through few patches of

:19:53.:19:57.

ice on untreated services. Scotland, Northern Ireland and northern

:19:58.:19:59.

England this morning. A bitter sunshine to come for many of us as

:20:00.:20:03.

we go through this morning. Here is a picture from nine a.m.. A fair

:20:04.:20:08.

amount of cloud around and had to light rain in a couple of spots. Not

:20:09.:20:12.

amounting to very much. Early showers across the eastern parts of

:20:13.:20:16.

England. Pulling away into the North Sea so it is becoming dry and sunny.

:20:17.:20:21.

We have one or two showers scattered about parts of north-west England

:20:22.:20:24.

and Wales and the Midlands. These will fade away and become very few

:20:25.:20:28.

and far between during the day. It is the wind arrows as we go round

:20:29.:20:32.

the UK. A colder direction but the numbers at lower and it is far

:20:33.:20:36.

calmer this morning. A lot of dry weather was sunny stuff to come

:20:37.:20:40.

today. Just an isolated shower. You will notice the Northern Ireland you

:20:41.:20:43.

have rain coming back in this afternoon. They will push into

:20:44.:20:47.

western Scotland by the end of the afternoon. A freshening wind again

:20:48.:20:50.

although nothing on the scale of storm Doris. Temperatures down

:20:51.:20:56.

compared with yesterday. Most of us will not get that high. We would

:20:57.:21:00.

take wet weather across the northern half of the UK tonight. Ren preceded

:21:01.:21:04.

by snow and the Scottish hills but turning back to rain. When

:21:05.:21:07.

strengthening across the UK the gales into the north-west Scotland

:21:08.:21:10.

and those to temperatures are higher tonight compared with last night

:21:11.:21:14.

where we're switching the wind around with a cold north-westerly to

:21:15.:21:17.

a milder south-westerly. That mild weather will stay with us into the

:21:18.:21:21.

weekend. It will be a blustery weekend to come and there will be

:21:22.:21:27.

some outbreaks of rain around at times. The picture for Saturday,

:21:28.:21:30.

taking rain south eastwards across the UK. Not much down the eastern

:21:31.:21:34.

side. Heavy births in the hills of western Scotland and Cumbria. --

:21:35.:21:39.

heavy gusts in the hills. Iraqi government forces have

:21:40.:21:47.

begun their attack on the western Yesterday they managed to recapture

:21:48.:21:50.

Mosul airport as part of the government's offensive

:21:51.:21:54.

to drive so-called Islamic State Our correspondent Quentin

:21:55.:21:56.

Somerville is the only foreign journalist

:21:57.:21:59.

with the Iraqi troops. He captured the intense

:22:00.:22:01.

fighting as it took place, Mosul airport may be in ruins but

:22:02.:22:37.

more importantly it is back in government hands. The Iraqi flag is

:22:38.:22:42.

flying here again. A landmark moment. The Iraqi forces now have

:22:43.:22:47.

the Islamic State group on the run. Right now here in Iraq we are

:22:48.:22:51.

witnessing the final days of the caliphate.

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Joining us now in the studio is Dr Afshin Shahi, Senior Lecturer

:22:54.:22:56.

in International Relations Middle East Politics

:22:57.:22:58.

Looking at that piece there are, there are clearly dramatic scenes.

:22:59.:23:11.

What are your thoughts on these developments? The operation

:23:12.:23:15.

deliberate Mosul started last October. It took them two about

:23:16.:23:23.

January two only liberate the eastern side. But when you think

:23:24.:23:30.

about it, over the last 2.5 years, ISIS has dedicated most of its

:23:31.:23:33.

defence preparation to the western side. So if, basically liberating

:23:34.:23:39.

the eastern side proved to be that difficult, the western side is

:23:40.:23:42.

probably going to be even more complex and probably will take some

:23:43.:23:46.

very long time. Quentin tweeted last night as he was covering the ongoing

:23:47.:23:52.

situation that the next step was going to be the hardest. Why some

:23:53.:23:58.

scale of difference. What is the significance of Mosul to ISIS? It is

:23:59.:24:02.

the largest urban centre controlled at the moment. Over the last 15

:24:03.:24:12.

months they have lost 60% of the territory that they controlled in

:24:13.:24:16.

2014 in Iraq. And a lot of their territory in Syria. They have lost a

:24:17.:24:20.

lot of important urban centres in the country and Mosul is the last

:24:21.:24:26.

one. As we speak, most 700,000 people are living there. It has a

:24:27.:24:31.

lot of strategic and symbolic significance for the organisation.

:24:32.:24:35.

If they lose it, it will be a game changer. That does not mean they

:24:36.:24:39.

will be irrelevant. Even if they lose territory the conditions, the

:24:40.:24:43.

factors that are part of the cause of the structure that made the

:24:44.:24:47.

emergence of possible four years ago are still in place. Even if they

:24:48.:24:52.

lose territory, unfortunately they are still going to cause a major

:24:53.:24:55.

threat to the security of the country and nation as a whole.

:24:56.:24:58.

Looking at the military hardware they are, how about the civilian

:24:59.:25:02.

population that is still within the areas held by Islamic State? As I

:25:03.:25:07.

mentioned, we do not know how many people are living there but assuming

:25:08.:25:13.

that up to seven thousand people are living in the city. As ISIS has

:25:14.:25:19.

proved over the last two or three years they are absolutely capable of

:25:20.:25:23.

using a kind of human shelter. This is the main complexity because the

:25:24.:25:26.

majority of people are still living in the western side. The western

:25:27.:25:32.

side is very difficult to operate in and over the last two years they

:25:33.:25:37.

have dedicated most of the defence preparation to this specific part of

:25:38.:25:41.

the city. Obviously the implications for the civilian life is going to be

:25:42.:25:45.

very profound and problematic. What does this mean for the strength of

:25:46.:25:50.

ISIS at the moment? ISIS, if you are talking about their financial

:25:51.:25:54.

position, they are under a great deal of pressure. In their peak, in

:25:55.:26:02.

about 2014, they are having an annual income of $1.9 million a

:26:03.:26:08.

year. -- $1.9 billion a year. That has dropped to about 800 million.

:26:09.:26:11.

Financially they are not as strong as what they used to be in 2014.

:26:12.:26:17.

Nonetheless they are still the richest terrorist organisation in

:26:18.:26:20.

the world. You have to remember that some of the atrocities that they

:26:21.:26:23.

conducted in your blood the attack in Paris, they did not require that

:26:24.:26:27.

much money. It did not cost them much. So the very fact that they are

:26:28.:26:31.

financially under pressure in the fact that they are losing territory

:26:32.:26:34.

is not going to make them irrelevant. I think as they lose

:26:35.:26:38.

more and more territory they may resort to more problematic tactics

:26:39.:26:44.

and methods that are paid has been using. Potentially they can

:26:45.:26:49.

constitute a greater security threat not only to the Middle East but to

:26:50.:26:54.

Europe as well. Thank you very much for your time this morning. Time now

:26:55.:26:58.

to find out what is Now, though, it's back

:26:59.:30:18.

to Steph and Charlie. Hello, this is Breakfast

:30:19.:30:21.

with Charlie Stayt and Steph The Conservatives have won

:30:22.:30:28.

the Cumbrian seat of Copeland which had been in Labour's hands

:30:29.:30:36.

for more than 80 years. In the night's other result,

:30:37.:30:40.

Labour held on to Stoke Central, with UKIP leader Paul Nuttall

:30:41.:30:42.

finishing in second place. And in the last few minutes we spoke

:30:43.:30:50.

with the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell about the by-elections.

:30:51.:30:54.

These by-elections were difficult ones, we knew that. We lost Copeland

:30:55.:31:00.

and we will learn lessons from that. But we won in Stoke and we have

:31:01.:31:05.

defeated I think something which was really dangerous for politics in

:31:06.:31:10.

this country. We have turned back the politics of dishonesty and

:31:11.:31:15.

division. And, as I say, the people Stoke, by supporting Labour, have

:31:16.:31:16.

done us all a service in that. Our political correspondent

:31:17.:31:18.

Alex Forsyth joins us Morning to you. You may have heard

:31:19.:31:30.

John McDonnell speaking about UKIP, and that is the story from Stoke,

:31:31.:31:34.

isn't it, Labour holding onto the seat and where it leaves UKIP.

:31:35.:31:41.

Undoubtedly, that is the story, there will be Labour relief from

:31:42.:31:45.

John McDonald, that they saw off the challenge from UKIP, but it has

:31:46.:31:50.

raised questions for UKIP now, and that is because after the EU

:31:51.:31:53.

Referendum and the victory for UKIP and what it stood for, there were

:31:54.:31:58.

questions about where the party goes from there. UKIP said it wanted to

:31:59.:32:02.

eat into the Labour vote in the Midlands and in the north of England

:32:03.:32:06.

as well. This was a big test for UKIP. Here in Stoke, 70% of people

:32:07.:32:12.

backed Brexit, this is exactly the seat UKIP wanted to target. They

:32:13.:32:17.

even put their leader, Paul Nuttall, up to stand, so the fact they didn't

:32:18.:32:21.

win will pose questions for what the party represents and where it will

:32:22.:32:25.

go from here. And the story in Copeland is Conservatives have an

:32:26.:32:30.

empty, effectively, for the first time in that area in living memory,

:32:31.:32:37.

what does that say about where Labour is and about the Conservative

:32:38.:32:44.

Party? Well, the significance of the result shouldn't be underestimated,

:32:45.:32:49.

because it is incredibly rare for a governing party, the Conservatives

:32:50.:32:53.

in this case, to take a seat from the opposition, Labour in this case,

:32:54.:32:57.

especially when it has been such a strong Labour seat for such a long

:32:58.:33:01.

time. Labour said there were local issues in play, in that Copeland

:33:02.:33:07.

by-election, but undoubtedly it will leave questions for Jeremy Corbyn

:33:08.:33:12.

and his party, and fuel critics who say he is not the man for the

:33:13.:33:17.

moment. Thank you. Let's have a look at some of the other stories this

:33:18.:33:21.

morning. The Royal Bank of Scotland reported a loss of ?7 billion, that

:33:22.:33:26.

is its ninth consecutive year in the red.

:33:27.:33:28.

The figure represents a hefty increase on the ?2 billion pound

:33:29.:33:31.

loss the bank reported last year and is one of the group's biggest

:33:32.:33:35.

since its Government bailout in 2008.

:33:36.:33:36.

Malaysian police say they have found the highly toxic nerve agent,

:33:37.:33:39.

VX, on the face of Kim Jong-nam, the murdered half brother

:33:40.:33:42.

VX is the most toxic of the chemical warfare agents,

:33:43.:33:46.

and just a drop on the skin can kill in minutes.

:33:47.:33:49.

CCTV footage shows two women briefly holding something over

:33:50.:33:52.

Kim Jong-nam's face while he was preparing to board

:33:53.:33:54.

a flight at Kuala Lumpur airport last week.

:33:55.:34:05.

Traces of this VX nerve agent on those swabs, that is a very, very

:34:06.:34:13.

serious thing to have found out, because VX is considered the most

:34:14.:34:17.

toxic nerve agent ever invented, it was actually invented in Britain in

:34:18.:34:22.

the 1950s, large quantities produced in America and the Soviet Union in

:34:23.:34:26.

the Cold War, but it has subsequently been banned under UN

:34:27.:34:30.

chemical convention, and so the fact that it has been used here in this

:34:31.:34:34.

killing makes this just a whole new level on this killing.

:34:35.:34:37.

Donald Trump says he wants to expand America's nuclear arsenal.

:34:38.:34:40.

In his first comments on the issue since taking office,

:34:41.:34:43.

Mr Trump said it would be "wonderful" if no nation had nuclear

:34:44.:34:46.

arms, but otherwise the US must be "top of the pack."

:34:47.:34:52.

The government is announcing plans for more universities to offer

:34:53.:34:55.

degree courses which last for just two years.

:34:56.:34:57.

In return, universities will be able to increase annual tuition fees

:34:58.:35:00.

to more than ?13,000, although the overall cost

:35:01.:35:02.

of a degree will still be capped at ?27,000.

:35:03.:35:05.

The clear-up continues this morning after Storm Doris battered much

:35:06.:35:08.

of the UK leaving one woman dead after being hit by flying debris.

:35:09.:35:16.

Winds of up to 94mph caused power cuts and travel chaos as flights

:35:17.:35:19.

were grounded and train services disrupted.

:35:20.:35:21.

Drivers are being warned to be wary of ice on the roads in Scotland,

:35:22.:35:25.

Northern Ireland, and north-west England.

:35:26.:35:34.

Those are the main stories this morning. And are you ready with

:35:35.:35:42.

bumblebee football? Thank you to the Breakfast audience, we have some

:35:43.:35:47.

excellent suggestions. It turns out that the bees knees were better than

:35:48.:35:49.

we thought. It's been discovered bumblebees can

:35:50.:35:52.

teach each other how to score goals with a tiny ball, displaying

:35:53.:35:55.

a learning ability never before They surprised scientists by working

:35:56.:35:58.

out how to obtain a food reward In the experiment, the bees

:35:59.:36:05.

were placed on a platform and had to roll a yellow ball to a specific

:36:06.:36:11.

location in order to obtain Those that observed the success

:36:12.:36:14.

of other bees were better at learning the task

:36:15.:36:18.

than those that didn't. That would make for some legwork. It

:36:19.:36:32.

reminds me of golf or curling, a hole on the putting green. The

:36:33.:36:40.

bumblebee 11. The manager has to be Max Busby, Hive Allen and Gordon

:36:41.:36:52.

McQueen Bee. Not bad. Let's talk about Claudio Ranieri. For the

:36:53.:37:00.

people who follow football, a lovely thing that happened, the players

:37:01.:37:03.

delivering for the manager, wonderful moment, and now he is

:37:04.:37:08.

gone. The way to explain it, it is like a fairytale with a dream

:37:09.:37:12.

marriage, the fairy princess and the Prince of meat and go to the top and

:37:13.:37:16.

have a wonderful honeymoon, they defy the odds, they defeat the

:37:17.:37:20.

Dragons, if you want to continue the metaphor, and then when it gets to

:37:21.:37:24.

the nitty-gritty, when things go wrong, it all falls apart, and there

:37:25.:37:29.

is no happy ever after in this fairy tale. It is so mean. Well, it is

:37:30.:37:33.

mean, and the board would say that you have to look at the facts, the

:37:34.:37:38.

club form has been the worst of any 92 football clubs.

:37:39.:37:40.

It's such a contrast to the euphoria of nine months ago,

:37:41.:37:43.

but however harsh it may seem, the Leicester owners felt they had

:37:44.:37:46.

to act now, with relegation for the champions a real danger.

:37:47.:37:49.

Claudio Ranieri has cut an increasingly isolated figure,

:37:50.:37:52.

and has not been able to lift his players to stop the slide.

:37:53.:37:56.

It's not just the fact that the club are one place and one point

:37:57.:37:59.

above the relegation zone, but they haven't won away

:38:00.:38:02.

in the league all season, and haven't even scored

:38:03.:38:04.

It's the worst form of any of the 92 Football League clubs.

:38:05.:38:09.

The Leicester board have released a statement explaining

:38:10.:38:11.

"Domestic results in the current campaign have placed

:38:12.:38:16.

the Club's Premier League status under threat,

:38:17.:38:20.

and the Board reluctantly feels that a change of leadership,

:38:21.:38:22.

while admittedly painful, is necessary in the Club's greatest

:38:23.:38:25.

Joining us now from Leicester City's stadium is BBC Football commentator

:38:26.:38:45.

So, well, the rest of the football world may be full of shock, may be

:38:46.:38:56.

fuelled by sentiment, but what do the diehard fans think, is it a

:38:57.:38:59.

surprise for them, given the woeful form? I hosted a radio show last

:39:00.:39:10.

night from 8:30pm until 10pm and we were struggling for people to come

:39:11.:39:14.

and confirm they thought it was a good idea. This time yesterday I was

:39:15.:39:19.

in Seville with hundreds, thousands of fans, talking about the Jamie

:39:20.:39:23.

Vardy goal being a lifeline here in the King Power Stadium in March,

:39:24.:39:28.

that they could overturn the deficit and the Italian could see them into

:39:29.:39:31.

the quarter-finals of the Champions League. I looked into Claudio

:39:32.:39:36.

Ranieri's eyes after the game, he had no idea, he thought it was a

:39:37.:39:41.

good result. Clearly he has fallen on his sword. People on air were

:39:42.:39:45.

gutted, very emotional people. He gave this club the best years in

:39:46.:39:53.

133. So, you were in Spain, and the board was also, and you saw no

:39:54.:39:57.

evidence of this supposedly down in the bond between the players and

:39:58.:40:01.

Claudio Ranieri. It has to be to blame. Whoever comes in can only

:40:02.:40:06.

work with the same players? Absolutely right, there is no

:40:07.:40:09.

transfer window until the summer, you would expect Craig Shakespeare

:40:10.:40:14.

to take over on Monday, what an enormous game. The manager is going

:40:15.:40:20.

to walk in and take charge of a Champions League last 16 second leg,

:40:21.:40:25.

which in itself defies belief and a 1-0 win and they are through, the

:40:26.:40:30.

away goal will count and they are through to the quarter-final. The

:40:31.:40:33.

relationship with the players has been spoken about. They looked like

:40:34.:40:37.

they were together in Sir Bill earlier on Wednesday night but I am

:40:38.:40:42.

led to believe his fate was probably sealed before the game after the

:40:43.:40:48.

Millwall defeat. He was given the bad news after landing from the trip

:40:49.:40:54.

yesterday afternoon, and he will be packing his bags, saying his

:40:55.:40:57.

goodbyes, and the King is dead, long live the king. Yes, indeed. Do you

:40:58.:41:05.

think the timing, it was improved in Spain, we saw the spirit, Jamie

:41:06.:41:10.

Vardy scored, would it suggest the board have a plan up their sleeve

:41:11.:41:15.

and a certain Roberto Mancini? Roberto Mancini was a legend here, I

:41:16.:41:22.

say legend, he was on loan for a short period. 100 yards behind, I

:41:23.:41:26.

watched him as a young boy play online for Leicester City, the crowd

:41:27.:41:32.

loved him. Would he come to a relegation threat and Leicester City

:41:33.:41:35.

in the Premier League? I don't know. I follow this club for nine years,

:41:36.:41:41.

their been times when they have been burnt getting rid of managers

:41:42.:41:46.

without a replacement, thinking of venue and Ericsson, Nigel Pearson,

:41:47.:41:51.

it took them a while to appoint Claudio Ranieri. To sack him after a

:41:52.:41:59.

good defeat in Sevilla smacks of the possibility of a replacement lined

:42:00.:42:04.

up. Maybe not having been spoken to, but there might be at a replacement

:42:05.:42:09.

relatively soon. Thank you very much indeed, fascinating to hear about

:42:10.:42:12.

that last night, it seems a lot of emotion was poured out because it is

:42:13.:42:18.

such a bizarre state of affairs. And even as he was celebrating. Remember

:42:19.:42:26.

how loyal he was when he stopped, he was offered the Italian national,

:42:27.:42:30.

his country's job, but he stayed at Leicester. Plenty of other sport

:42:31.:42:32.

news as well. It was a dismal night for Tottenham

:42:33.:42:33.

- out of the Europa League after they could only draw 2-2

:42:34.:42:37.

against Gent of Belgium at Wembley, Dismal especially for two

:42:38.:42:40.

of their England stars - His own goal making

:42:41.:42:43.

it 1-1 on the night. Then another of Spurs'

:42:44.:42:52.

England players, Dele Alli, was sent-off for this

:42:53.:42:55.

horrendous tackle. Tottenham out, leaving just

:42:56.:42:56.

Manchester United as the sole England captain Wayne Rooney says

:42:57.:42:59.

he is staying at Manchester United after being linked

:43:00.:43:03.

with a move to China. The 31-year-old striker said

:43:04.:43:05.

in a statement: "It's an exciting time at the club and I want

:43:06.:43:08.

to remain a part of it." Rooney's agent had travelled

:43:09.:43:12.

to China to see if he could negotiate a deal, which could still

:43:13.:43:15.

happen in the summer. Coach Vern Cotter has made five

:43:16.:43:20.

changes to Scotland's side that will face Wales in the Six Nations

:43:21.:43:23.

at Murrayfield tomorrow. Flanker Jon Barclay plays his rugby

:43:24.:43:25.

in Wales with the Scarlets, and will captain the team

:43:26.:43:28.

in the absence of the injured Greig Ali Price will take over

:43:29.:43:32.

from Laidlaw at scrum half. Fly half Johnny Sexton returns

:43:33.:43:40.

to the Ireland side for tomorrow's Sexton missed Ireland's first two

:43:41.:43:43.

games with a calf injury, but is back with Paddy Jackson

:43:44.:43:47.

dropping to the bench. I love the feeling when you get

:43:48.:43:54.

the keys to your new car, and that was the feeling

:43:55.:43:57.

for Lewis Hamilton yesterday. World champion constructors Mercedes

:43:58.:44:00.

have unveiled their new car It will be going a lot faster

:44:01.:44:02.

than this when the season starts But for now Lewis Hamilton,

:44:03.:44:07.

who was joined by new team-mate Valtteri Bottas, took the car

:44:08.:44:11.

for a few laps around Hamilton said the car

:44:12.:44:14.

felt incredible. So, more reaction from a former

:44:15.:44:29.

Leicester player at 8:30am and from the tweets, it is what Ian has said,

:44:30.:44:34.

two thirds has said it is a mistake, and Gary Lineker says it is

:44:35.:44:39.

inexplicable. And you have a sense of the passion locally, it will be

:44:40.:44:46.

fascinating to see what is happening next. Thank you. It is just coming

:44:47.:44:57.

up to 7:45am. It is fair to say it was a bit of a crazy day yesterday.

:44:58.:45:00.

The calm after the storm with the sum up in Devon. A horrible day

:45:01.:45:11.

yesterday that such a contrast this morning. Calder, mind you, but it is

:45:12.:45:17.

much calmer. Doris is long gone. The area of low pressure losing the make

:45:18.:45:22.

moving so quickly it has moved into pollen and towards Russia where as

:45:23.:45:26.

we are in between weather systems, a little bridge of high pressure.

:45:27.:45:30.

Although there is some disruption continuing today there are many

:45:31.:45:33.

things to clear up, the weather today is not making any of that any

:45:34.:45:38.

worse. I must say, watch out for ice patches this morning. Scotland,

:45:39.:45:41.

Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland. Indications of how

:45:42.:45:46.

temperatures have dropped after storm Doris but there is plenty of

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dry and, for many of us, sunny weather to come to day. This view

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are nine o'clock this morning. No frost, widespread into Scotland.

:45:56.:46:00.

Areas of cloud producing patchy rain and snow. Early showers are pulled

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away from most of northern England at this stage. The couple were

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scattered about throughout Wales and Internet England. Hit and miss and

:46:08.:46:11.

if you are keeping an eye on the wind arrows here, far lighter winds

:46:12.:46:15.

compared to yesterday. For many of us, sunshine. Although there is a

:46:16.:46:19.

chance to catch an odd shower here and there look at the picture. At

:46:20.:46:23.

midday, mostly dry with sunny spells. We will see another wet

:46:24.:46:26.

weather system bringing rain into Northern Ireland this afternoon.

:46:27.:46:29.

Double reached a western Scotland by the end of the day. A freshening

:46:30.:46:33.

wind with that. Nothing on the scale of storm Doris. A call today for

:46:34.:46:38.

many of us. The temperatures drop back to single figures. We will take

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rain away from Northern Ireland and pushed across Scotland this evening.

:46:42.:46:45.

Some hill snow for a time becoming rain. Outbreaks of rain in Wales and

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the Midlands. Not much at all into the south of England. All areas

:46:50.:46:54.

overnight the wind is picking up, gales developing again in north-west

:46:55.:46:56.

Scotland. Overnight the temperatures will not be as low as they were last

:46:57.:47:01.

night. Taking a look at the where the menu for the weekend. Mild

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compared with two today. Windy, not on the scale of storm Doris. There

:47:05.:47:08.

will be wet weather around at times. Here Saturday. Outbreaks of rain

:47:09.:47:12.

spinning south eastwards. Not a lot down the eastern side of the UK,

:47:13.:47:16.

heavy and the winds of western Scotland. Brightening into Scotland

:47:17.:47:19.

and Northern Ireland. The leader in the day. Double-figure temperatures,

:47:20.:47:24.

four to the weekend on Sunday brings another weather system south

:47:25.:47:28.

eastwards, not much at all in the south-east England until much a

:47:29.:47:30.

later in the day. Unsettled this weekend but storm Doris is not on

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that scale. That is how it looks. Thank very much and we will see you

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later. Let's return to our lead story now. The Conservative victory

:47:41.:47:44.

in the Copland by-election has been hailed as historic. We speak now to

:47:45.:47:49.

Sir Patrick McLaughlan. Good morning. How important is this to

:47:50.:47:53.

the Conservative Party? It looks calm there but I imagine it has been

:47:54.:48:00.

a night of celebration? It is a very important game. By-elections come

:48:01.:48:06.

and go but this is truly historic. To have won a by-election of the

:48:07.:48:10.

major opposition party two years into government is really

:48:11.:48:14.

unprecedented. I would like to congratulate Trudie Harrison on the

:48:15.:48:17.

fantastic campaign she waged. The campaign she fought is also an

:48:18.:48:21.

endorsement on the work that the Prime Minister is doing. Do you

:48:22.:48:25.

think, however, that this is not about how well the Conservatives are

:48:26.:48:28.

doing but more about how badly everyone else is doing? Well, no. If

:48:29.:48:35.

we had not have won the seat it would not be the question you would

:48:36.:48:39.

be putting to me. The truth is that this is about the campaign that we

:48:40.:48:42.

fought. We fought at positive campaign and in Trudie Harrison we

:48:43.:48:47.

got an exceptional candidate whom fought the campaign from local

:48:48.:48:51.

issues and also on the wider National front as well. Yes, there

:48:52.:48:56.

were problems as far as the Labour campaign were concerned. But I would

:48:57.:49:00.

like to come this morning, and congratulate Trudie on her

:49:01.:49:04.

remarkable victory and also acknowledge the work that has been

:49:05.:49:08.

done by the Prime Minister in ensuring that this was a victory

:49:09.:49:13.

which was possible. Looking at what Trudie Harrison said in her

:49:14.:49:16.

campaign, she made a commitment during the campaign to keep the

:49:17.:49:20.

maternity services in west Cumbria open, this was not something that

:49:21.:49:23.

the Prime Minister, Theresa May, could commit to where she came to

:49:24.:49:27.

the area. What would you say to the people of Copland had now about

:49:28.:49:30.

these services? Will Trudie Harrison be able to keep her word? Trudie

:49:31.:49:36.

made a very clear promise that she was going to make the case and fight

:49:37.:49:40.

the campaign for the retention of the services in the hospital. There

:49:41.:49:45.

is a consultation that has closed. We have yet to see the results

:49:46.:49:49.

about. The issue that is being looked at is how do you service the

:49:50.:49:54.

hospital in the best possible way? That is obviously a very important

:49:55.:49:57.

local issue which Trudie will be campaigning hard on. We spoke to the

:49:58.:50:01.

Shadow Chancellor earlier in the programme. He accused yourselves of

:50:02.:50:06.

misinformation and disinformation during the campaign. What do you say

:50:07.:50:12.

to that? I would say that I was rubbish. If that is the best excuse

:50:13.:50:15.

he can come up with then my estimation of him is going down by

:50:16.:50:19.

the second. The truth of the matter is that if I looked at some of the

:50:20.:50:24.

literature in the light of the make that the Labour Party were putting

:50:25.:50:27.

out this campaign, it was outrageous. The governing party to

:50:28.:50:31.

take a seat off the main opposition party in nine years into Parliament

:50:32.:50:37.

is just unbelievable. And if he and this party cannot actually hold

:50:38.:50:42.

seats like this now then they are going to be in serious trouble over

:50:43.:50:45.

the coming years. I would like to focus on a very positive campaign

:50:46.:50:49.

which was fought by the Conservative candidate. A campaign which was not

:50:50.:50:56.

so positive, however, was the by-election in Stoke-on-Trent where

:50:57.:50:59.

the Conservatives came third. Is it fair to say that there are still

:51:00.:51:02.

many people it can not connect with the Conservative Party? Well, there

:51:03.:51:08.

are two very different constituencies. In Stoke there was a

:51:09.:51:13.

lower turnout. In Copland we had a high turnout for by-elections, a 51%

:51:14.:51:17.

turnout which is a higher turnout than we had in recent by-election.

:51:18.:51:24.

In Stoke was far lower. We increased our share of the vote in

:51:25.:51:27.

Stoke-on-Trent. We have a very good candidate they are. The issues were

:51:28.:51:35.

different. It came third but, you know, it he was 100 votes behind

:51:36.:51:39.

Ukip. The Labour Party, overall... Sorry? Sorry, I interrupted you.

:51:40.:51:49.

Please finish a sentence. Sorry, I was saying that the share of the

:51:50.:51:53.

vote for the Labour Party went down. If you are trying to say somehow

:51:54.:52:00.

that it was a bad result for us in Stoke, no, we improved our share of

:52:01.:52:03.

the vote. I congratulate our candidate on what he did in that

:52:04.:52:07.

campaign. Thank you very much for your time. You got there in the end.

:52:08.:52:15.

We have figures from the RBS and the reason Tom shone, that we care about

:52:16.:52:19.

these figures is that we still own three quarters of it?

:52:20.:52:27.

The bank that us taxpayers own almost three quarters

:52:28.:52:30.

of has just reported its full year financial results.

:52:31.:52:32.

because of litigation costs in America, the failure to spin

:52:33.:52:39.

off its business in England and Wales.

:52:40.:52:41.

It is the ninth year in a row it's made a lost.

:52:42.:52:44.

And it's announced ? 2 billion of cost cutting over

:52:45.:52:47.

Frances Coppola is an independent banking analyst and she's

:52:48.:52:59.

Good morning. I don't know where to start. Let's begin with a ?7 billion

:53:00.:53:11.

loss. We were expecting that? Yes. I think it had been widely singled in

:53:12.:53:15.

advance that there would be a loss and we were at expecting that.

:53:16.:53:19.

Possibly a little bit more than we thought but it is in the ballpark.

:53:20.:53:26.

Why does it matter? We talk about companies making profit and losses

:53:27.:53:30.

or the time but as the Royal Bank of Scotland particularly important to

:53:31.:53:33.

us? It is important for us because we own most of it. When there is a

:53:34.:53:38.

loss like this it means that our lives as our ownership of it, how

:53:39.:53:42.

equity is reduced because, you know, when companies make losses it is the

:53:43.:53:47.

shareholders of those companies that takes a hit. As the Royal Bank of

:53:48.:53:53.

Scotland, that is us, mostly. And when you look at cost-cutting as

:53:54.:53:57.

well for workers at the Royal Bank of Scotland... They said ?2 billion.

:53:58.:54:00.

We hear from the bank this morning, they use the terms back-office and

:54:01.:54:04.

middle office of the bank. Where it cuts going to be, do you think? Back

:54:05.:54:08.

office and middle office basically means what we might call the

:54:09.:54:14.

plumbing, the bits that go on behind the scenes in banks that makes the

:54:15.:54:18.

system work. The people who we do not see in the branches but who work

:54:19.:54:26.

in call centres and in processing centres who basically keep the whole

:54:27.:54:30.

system running. That is where the cuts will fall. It may be that they

:54:31.:54:35.

will be expected to work harder and also that there will be some

:54:36.:54:43.

streamlining of efficiencies in the actual processes themselves both in

:54:44.:54:46.

the way people work and in the IT systems. When I spoke to the

:54:47.:54:50.

Bangalore earlier they were at pains to stress that these were legacy

:54:51.:54:54.

issues from the financial crisis. Underneath it all, there is a bank

:54:55.:54:57.

that is doing well. How does that argument a hold-up? You can see we

:54:58.:55:04.

are doing getting thin but looking at the figures I would have to agree

:55:05.:55:09.

with them. Underneath it, there is a solid performance being turned in,

:55:10.:55:12.

particularly in the retail bank which is really good news for

:55:13.:55:16.

everybody and, particularly also in what is left of RBS's investment

:55:17.:55:24.

bank. The profits have gone up by 16%. Thank you very much for your

:55:25.:55:30.

time, Francis. Percy Marks there over some people's jobs there in

:55:31.:55:35.

those ?2 billion worth of cuts, never mind the losses that it has

:55:36.:55:37.

already announced this morning. Time Hello, this is Breakfast with

:55:38.:55:39.

Charlie Stayt and Steph McGovern. An historic by-election win

:55:40.:55:39.

for the Conservatives as they gain Harrison, Trudy Lynn, the

:55:40.:55:39.

Conservative Party candidate, 30700 and 48.

:55:40.:55:39.

In the first by-election gain by a governing party

:55:40.:55:39.

for more than 30 years - Trudy Harrison takes

:55:40.:55:39.

the Cumbrian constituency with a majority of more than 2,000.

:55:40.:55:39.

In Stoke - Labour keep their seat - Ukip leader

:55:40.:55:39.

We're live in both constituencies this morning and we have the latest

:55:40.:55:39.

Good morning, it's Friday 24th February.

:55:40.:55:39.

Also this morning, a big loss for Royal Bank of Scotland.

:55:40.:55:39.

?7 billion in lost last year. The ninth year in a row without a

:55:40.:55:39.

profit. I will have more on those figures in a couple of minutes.

:55:40.:55:39.

In sport there is no happy ever after in the fairy tale of Claudio

:55:40.:55:39.

Ranieri. It is the calm after the Storm Doris. We will see some sunny

:55:40.:55:39.

weather later. I have the Friday forecast and the whole weekend of

:55:40.:55:39.

whether coming up. "A truly historic victory" -

:55:40.:55:39.

the words of new Conservative MP Trudy Harrison after taking

:55:40.:55:39.

the Labour seat of Copeland in last night's by-election,

:55:40.:55:39.

the first gain by a governing In the night's other result Labour

:55:40.:55:39.

did hold on to Stoke Central, with Ukip leader Paul Nuttall

:55:40.:55:39.

finishing in second place. This report from our political

:55:40.:55:39.

correspondent Tom Bateman Harrison, Trudy Lynne,

:55:40.:55:39.

the Conservative Party candidate, Voters here had chosen a Labour MP

:55:40.:55:39.

for the last 80 years. But all that changed in a dramatic

:55:40.:55:39.

night as the Conservatives took What has happened here tonight

:55:40.:55:39.

is a truly historic event. You'd have to go back more

:55:40.:55:39.

than a century to find an example of a governing party taking a seat

:55:40.:55:39.

from the opposition party Labour had said the vote

:55:40.:55:39.

was on a knife edge. In the aftermath of defeat,

:55:40.:55:39.

their departing candidate chose not The first time a Conservative has

:55:40.:55:39.

represented the area But serious questions for Labour

:55:40.:55:39.

under Jeremy Corbyn. Theresa May made the rare move

:55:40.:55:39.

of visiting a by-election seat It was a hard-fought campaign over

:55:40.:55:39.

nuclear jobs and hospital services. The result leaves Labour

:55:40.:55:39.

assessing its electoral prospects. But there was better news

:55:40.:55:39.

for Labour in the by-election in Stoke-on-Trent, another

:55:40.:55:39.

traditional seat for the party. They held on with

:55:40.:55:39.

a reduced majority. This by-election was a test for UKIP

:55:40.:55:39.

in a working-class area that voted It just managed second place,

:55:40.:55:39.

but did increase its vote share. This seat was, what,

:55:40.:55:39.

number 72 on our hit list. So therefore, you know,

:55:40.:55:39.

we move on and our time will come. There will be jubilation

:55:40.:55:39.

for Theresa May Jeremy Corbyn promised

:55:40.:55:39.

he would reconnect with voters. He may have to try in spite

:55:40.:55:39.

of futher opposition We can now speak to our political

:55:40.:55:39.

correspondent Iain Watson, who is in Whitehaven

:55:40.:55:39.

for us this morning. It looks absolutely lovely there

:55:40.:55:39.

behind you. Tell me a little about those words, political history in

:55:40.:55:39.

the making. Always a little bit wary when people say that but in relation

:55:40.:55:39.

to Copeland, put it in perspective for us. OK, very happy to do so. It

:55:40.:55:39.

is lovely here. The calm after the storm. A tightly fought by-election

:55:40.:55:39.

campaign. This seat was formed in 1983. It has always been Labour but

:55:40.:55:39.

in Whitehaven it has been Labour since the 1930s. It is historic for

:55:40.:55:39.

that reason that Labour have lost a seat, but also historic that a

:55:40.:55:39.

governing party has gained a seat from the opposition. That has not

:55:40.:55:39.

happened since 1982. So historic for both those reasons. Labour so there

:55:40.:55:39.

are indeed reasons for the defeat. They say there is a campaign on the

:55:40.:55:39.

future of the nuclear industry which contain Sellafield. They also say in

:55:40.:55:39.

this particular seat, with the Labour majority would go down year

:55:40.:55:39.

after year. That is true but Jeremy Corbyn's opponents inside his own

:55:40.:55:39.

party say these are excuses and not reasons and his leadership came up

:55:40.:55:39.

on the doorstep here in Whitehaven and the surrounding areas and that

:55:40.:55:39.

to some extent this was a verdict on his leadership of the Labour Party.

:55:40.:55:39.

From Labour's point of view, what they will be delighted to see is the

:55:40.:55:39.

success in Stoke, holding not that seat and seeing off Ukip. There will

:55:40.:55:39.

be questions asked about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership but there will

:55:40.:55:39.

also be questions about Paul Nuttall's. I don't expect either man

:55:40.:55:39.

to throw in the towel but there will be questions from their parties.

:55:40.:55:39.

Thank you. Royal Bank of Scotland has reported

:55:40.:55:39.

an annual loss of ?7 billion, its ninth consecutive year

:55:40.:55:39.

in the red. We were sitting here last year

:55:40.:55:39.

talking about ?2 billion and that was a big figure, this year, 2016,

:55:40.:55:39.

?7 billion. A lot of that is because of one-off costs that the bank talks

:55:40.:55:39.

about but after nine years of losses that argument might start to wear

:55:40.:55:39.

thin. That is to do with litigation charges in the United States, part

:55:40.:55:39.

of the financial problems to deal with mortgage products it sold

:55:40.:55:39.

around the world. Here in the UK there is still the remnants of the

:55:40.:55:39.

PPI compensation it is paying out people. Businesses in England and

:55:40.:55:39.

Wales needed to spin that. All of these things amounting to big

:55:40.:55:39.

problems for the bank, even though they say things are ticking along

:55:40.:55:39.

OK. The reason why we care is because as taxpayers, we have a big

:55:40.:55:39.

stake in the Royal Bank of Scotland? Three quarters of it is owned by

:55:40.:55:39.

taxpayers and these losses will hit shareholders and we are one of the

:55:40.:55:39.

biggest shareholders. We need banks to do well to lend to businesses to

:55:40.:55:39.

be able to give us decent customer services and rates. Cost cutting

:55:40.:55:39.

comes in somewhere. We have been hearing about ?2 billion of cost

:55:40.:55:39.

cutting and that could well hit jobs across the business. Thank you.

:55:40.:55:39.

Leicester City has sacked manager Claudio Ranieri just nine months

:55:40.:55:39.

after he led the club's to its first Premier League title.

:55:40.:55:39.

The Foxes are only one place above the relegation zone

:55:40.:55:39.

He masterminded one of sport's greatest miracles,

:55:40.:55:39.

but less than a year after Claudio Ranieri's Leicester

:55:40.:55:39.

City became the most unlikely Premier League winners ever,

:55:40.:55:39.

the man who achieved the dream has been dismissed.

:55:40.:55:39.

Leicester City are the Premier League champions!

:55:40.:55:39.

Last season's celebrations have turned to fears of relegation.

:55:40.:55:39.

Having swept all before them, this season the euphoria has evaporated.

:55:40.:55:39.

The champions losing their last five league matches.

:55:40.:55:39.

And with Leicester languishing one point above the relegation zone

:55:40.:55:39.

In a statement, the club's chairman said...

:55:40.:55:39.

Managerial loyalties are notoriously short in supply

:55:40.:55:39.

in the Premier League but, given what Ranieri achieved,

:55:40.:55:39.

Former Leicester star Gary Lineker describing the dismissal as...

:55:40.:55:39.

Ranieri's last game in charge was this 2-1 defeat against Sevilla

:55:40.:55:39.

in the last 16 of the Champions League.

:55:40.:55:39.

The manager seemingly unaware of his fate when he spoke after the match.

:55:40.:55:39.

We know, we know they are better than us, very high quality

:55:40.:55:39.

team, highly experienced team, everything, OK.

:55:40.:55:39.

But we have a very big heart, and a very big effort,

:55:40.:55:39.

But it is Leicester's poor performances in the Premier League

:55:40.:55:39.

that could see them become only the second English champions

:55:40.:55:39.

in history to see a title defence end in relegation and it is that

:55:40.:55:39.

which ultimately cost Ranieri his job.

:55:40.:55:39.

Their memories of what he achieved will always be cherished

:55:40.:55:39.

Malaysian police say the highly toxic nerve agent, VX,

:55:40.:55:39.

has been found on the face of Kim Jong Nam -

:55:40.:55:39.

the murdered half brother of North Korea's leader.

:55:40.:55:39.

VX is an extremely toxic chemical warfare substance and just a drop

:55:40.:55:39.

CCTV footage showed two women briefly holding something

:55:40.:55:39.

over Kim Jong Nam's face while he was preparing to board

:55:40.:55:39.

a flight at Kuala Lumpur airport last week.

:55:40.:55:39.

Donald Trump says he wants to expand America's nuclear arsenal.

:55:40.:55:39.

In his first comments on the issue since taking office,

:55:40.:55:39.

Mr Trump said it would be "wonderful" if no nation had nuclear

:55:40.:55:39.

arms, but otherwise the US must be "top of the pack".

:55:40.:55:39.

More universities in England will be soon be able to offer degree courses

:55:40.:55:39.

which last for just two years under new plans.

:55:40.:55:39.

In return they will be able to increase annual tuition fees

:55:40.:55:39.

to more than ?13,000 - although the overall cost

:55:40.:55:39.

of a degree will still be capped at ?27,000.

:55:40.:55:39.

Those are the main stories this morning. Let's go back to the

:55:40.:55:39.

by-election results. Early this morning Ukip's hopes of gaining

:55:40.:55:39.

another MP in Parliament were thwarted as Labour's Gareth Snell

:55:40.:55:39.

won the by-election. We can speak now to the director of Ukip Peter

:55:40.:55:39.

Whittle. You had a real chance of beating

:55:40.:55:39.

Labour here but you did not, what went wrong? Hello. Can you hear us?

:55:40.:55:39.

Yes, I can. You had a real chance of beating Labour, what went wrong? I

:55:40.:55:39.

think the thing is that obviously, we are disappointed, disappointed

:55:40.:55:39.

that we didn't get Paul across the line this time. But in terms of what

:55:40.:55:39.

we can win in Ukip, in terms of our if you like win ability of seats,

:55:40.:55:39.

Stoke was quite away down the list. It would have been fantastic if we

:55:40.:55:39.

had done it this time. This is the first of many by-elections we will

:55:40.:55:39.

be coming up to now in 2020 and we are already getting ready now for

:55:40.:55:39.

the next fight which will be in Leeds. We are in pretty good

:55:40.:55:39.

spirits. Obviously, it is no doubt it was a disappointing night. You

:55:40.:55:39.

say it was far down the list in priority of winning it but it was

:55:40.:55:39.

not long ago that Nigel Farage told Ukip's conference the victory in

:55:40.:55:39.

Stoke was fundamental to the party's future, so what now? It is not right

:55:40.:55:39.

at all. I think people, whether it is the media or in this case Nigel,

:55:40.:55:39.

or always tending to put huge amounts of significance on things

:55:40.:55:39.

which are obviously very significant that at the same time, this is not

:55:40.:55:39.

some life or death situation. The fact is that Ukip regrouped and

:55:40.:55:39.

became United last year when Paul was elected leader and it stayed

:55:40.:55:39.

that way. That was after an extraordinary year last year of ups

:55:40.:55:39.

and downs. But we are going forward now in a way we have not been

:55:40.:55:39.

before, very united, and indeed, in the polls nationally, we were 15%,

:55:40.:55:39.

we had gone up by 2%. That is the sign of a party which has lost its

:55:40.:55:39.

way, the public support for the party is huge. But if you cannot win

:55:40.:55:39.

in Stoke if you have your party leader standing and Labour it is

:55:40.:55:39.

fair to say on the ropes, where are you going to win? Well, there are

:55:40.:55:39.

many different places we are going to be standing in. Many different

:55:40.:55:39.

places. Give us some examples of where you might win. Stoke was

:55:40.:55:39.

obviously a very big Brexit constituency, there is no question

:55:40.:55:39.

about that. Not everything obviously is about Brexit, but I think what

:55:40.:55:39.

happened in this particular case is because we as a party obviously

:55:40.:55:39.

posed a considerable threat to Labour, very much the attack was put

:55:40.:55:39.

onto Paul personally as leader, quite personal. In fact, in some

:55:40.:55:39.

ways it was a bit of a new low in what was actually done in this

:55:40.:55:39.

campaign. So obviously, that made things very difficult. But we are

:55:40.:55:39.

not aiming to whinge about that, that is what happened. We are very

:55:40.:55:39.

much looking to the future and we are going to go on and we will

:55:40.:55:39.

gather strength and be fighting by-elections this year going up to

:55:40.:55:39.

the general election in three years' time. You mentioned Paul Nuttall's

:55:40.:55:39.

leadership there, he said he's not going anywhere but as you rightly

:55:40.:55:39.

said there has been a lot of controversy around this campaign,

:55:40.:55:39.

about where he lives, his comments on Hillsborough, don't you want a

:55:40.:55:39.

less controversial leader? I am finding it difficult to hear you but

:55:40.:55:39.

I think the gist of your question really is yes of course, things were

:55:40.:55:39.

brought up very personally about Paul. He dealt with them very

:55:40.:55:39.

clearly but there is no question about it, this was a pretty

:55:40.:55:39.

orchestrated smear campaign against Paul. A lot of people want to see us

:55:40.:55:39.

disappear, wherever they are from, and the fact is therefore they will

:55:40.:55:39.

particularly hold us to a particularly high standard. In the

:55:40.:55:39.

case of what happened with Paul, he certainly apologised for errors, ie

:55:40.:55:39.

not reading his website, he made that very clear. But of course, that

:55:40.:55:39.

was followed by other things and all the rest of it that we know. I think

:55:40.:55:39.

this was definitely very much not a policy thing, it was a kind of

:55:40.:55:39.

personal attack on him and obviously, it was difficult for him,

:55:40.:55:39.

but at the same time, Ukip remains united around him. When he came back

:55:40.:55:39.

from the count yesterday, a huge cheer went up for him, so Paul is

:55:40.:55:39.

absolutely here to stay and we will be united around him. Thank you for

:55:40.:55:39.

your time. You're watching

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Breakfast from BBC News. A bruising by-election defeat

:55:40.:55:39.

for Labour as they lose their Copeland seat for the first

:55:40.:55:39.

time in more than 80 years. The Conservative victory

:55:40.:55:39.

is the first by a governing Royal Bank of Scotland has reported

:55:40.:55:39.

an annual loss of ?7 billion, its ninth consecutive year

:55:40.:55:39.

in the red. After a very stormy day yesterday,

:55:40.:55:39.

how is it looking today? Good morning. We have heard there is

:55:40.:55:39.

still disruption following storm Doris, but the weather is in a

:55:40.:55:39.

completely different mood today. This is one view from one of our

:55:40.:55:39.

early rising weather Watchers in Cumbria this morning. Doesn't it

:55:40.:55:39.

look lovely? It is cold. Storm Doris has moved away very quickly, taken

:55:40.:55:39.

those strong winds through Germany and Poland, heading through Eastern

:55:40.:55:39.

Europe. We are in a gap between weather systems and a breach of high

:55:40.:55:39.

pressure. At the moment we can relax. Quite a bit of dry and sunny

:55:40.:55:39.

weather to come today. A widespread frost in Scotland, some icy patches

:55:40.:55:39.

in Northern Ireland and northern England. We've had a few early

:55:40.:55:39.

showers down the eastern side of England. They've just about pulled

:55:40.:55:39.

away into the North Sea. One or two coming into north-west England and

:55:40.:55:39.

North Wales and filtering into Midlands but very hit and miss, the

:55:40.:55:39.

exception to the rule. If you are looking at the wind speeds these are

:55:40.:55:39.

much lower compared with yesterday. A completely different picture out

:55:40.:55:39.

there. As you can see as we go on through the morning and to the

:55:40.:55:39.

middle of the day, a lot of dry unfairly sunny weather. In Northern

:55:40.:55:39.

Ireland, a change coming back this afternoon with rain coming in. That

:55:40.:55:39.

will reach western Scotland and the breeze will freshen again, not on

:55:40.:55:39.

the scale of Storm Doris. The temperatures are stuck in single

:55:40.:55:39.

figures for many of us, just ten across parts of southern England.

:55:40.:55:39.

This evening rain in southern Scotland preceded by hill snow.

:55:40.:55:39.

Drying up for a time in Northern Ireland. Not much rain at all in

:55:40.:55:39.

southern England overnight. Turning windy across all parts, Gail is

:55:40.:55:39.

developing in north-west Scotland. But a change of wind direction,

:55:40.:55:39.

south-westerly, milder air coming into the UK, so we will notice that

:55:40.:55:39.

over the weekend. Temperatures back up again. A blustery weekend but not

:55:40.:55:39.

stormy and there will be some rain around, clearly, as you can start

:55:40.:55:39.

Saturday morning. Thoroughly wet in the hills of western Scotland and

:55:40.:55:39.

Cumbria as well. The rain pushing south-eastwards. Not much down the

:55:40.:55:39.

eastern side of the UK. Northern Ireland and Scotland brightening up

:55:40.:55:39.

in the afternoon, a few showers following and the temperature is

:55:40.:55:39.

widely back into double figures. Part two of the weekend, on Sunday

:55:40.:55:39.

another weather system coming in, taking outbreaks of rain Southeast,

:55:40.:55:39.

not reaching East Anglia or Southeast England until after dark.

:55:40.:55:39.

Fairly blustery again. For many of us those temperatures in double

:55:40.:55:39.

figures. It will turn colder into the start of next week. That's how

:55:40.:55:39.

it's looking this weekend, unsettled but not stormy.

:55:40.:55:39.

Thanks very much. Just coming up to 8:20am.

:55:40.:55:39.

Police in Malaysia say a powerful nerve agent called VX appears

:55:40.:55:39.

to have been used in last week's killing of Kim Jong-nam,

:55:40.:55:39.

the half brother of North Korean's dictator Kim Jong-un.

:55:40.:55:39.

In a statement, officials said traces of the agent,

:55:40.:55:39.

which is used in chemical warfare, were found on Kim Jong-nam's face.

:55:40.:55:39.

Earlier our correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes has been

:55:40.:55:39.

following the story from Kuala Lumpur.

:55:40.:55:39.

This story continues to get more and more extraordinary as the days go

:55:40.:55:39.

by. What the authorities are telling us now is that after Kim Jong-nam

:55:40.:55:39.

died at the airport or on the way to the hospital from the airport last

:55:40.:55:39.

week, they took him to the morgue and did an autopsy, during which

:55:40.:55:39.

they swapped his face, particularly his cheeks and eyes and then they

:55:40.:55:39.

tested those swabs and it's telling them about 11 days to come back with

:55:40.:55:39.

these results but they say they have found traces of this VX nerve agent

:55:40.:55:39.

on those swabs. That's a very serious thing to have found out

:55:40.:55:39.

because VX is considered to be the most toxic nerve agent ever

:55:40.:55:39.

invented. It was invented in Britain in the 1950s. Large quantities were

:55:40.:55:39.

produced in America and the Soviet Union during the Cold War but it has

:55:40.:55:39.

subsequently been banned under UN chemical convention, and so the fact

:55:40.:55:39.

it's been used here in this killing makes it a whole new level on this

:55:40.:55:39.

killing. STUDIO: Also, looking at what Malaysia are saying about this,

:55:40.:55:39.

they are not blaming the North Korean state for his death, but

:55:40.:55:39.

saying North Koreans were clearly behind it. What's happening here?

:55:40.:55:39.

Well, it's very unclear, is the short answer. They are not at the

:55:40.:55:39.

moment accusing the North Korean state of direct involvement however

:55:40.:55:39.

although circumstantial evidence so far points towards a plot, based in

:55:40.:55:39.

North Korea or at least based on the North Korean Embassy here in Kuala

:55:40.:55:39.

Lumpur. There are two people in custody, while women, thought to

:55:40.:55:39.

have carried out the actual killing. They are not North Korean but all

:55:40.:55:39.

the other suspects named are North Korean national scum and one of them

:55:40.:55:39.

they want to talk to is a North Korean diplomat from the embassy

:55:40.:55:39.

here, all the North Koreans are refusing to hand over. These two

:55:40.:55:39.

women and that other person they want to speak to, what happens next?

:55:40.:55:39.

Diplomatically we are locked in a bit of a stalemate. The North

:55:40.:55:39.

Koreans are refusing to back down or hand over these people wanted. There

:55:40.:55:39.

is potential now for a diplomatic rift. I've heard people here today

:55:40.:55:39.

say they will have to do something in retaliation, even as high as

:55:40.:55:39.

perhaps kicking the North Korean ambassador out of here. No

:55:40.:55:39.

confirmation that will actually happen but this is now very, very

:55:40.:55:39.

serious. It is a 21 AM. There are growing calls

:55:40.:55:39.

from patients, experts and nurses for better training and awareness

:55:40.:55:39.

of Sickle Cell Disease. It's an inherited blood disorder

:55:40.:55:39.

that affects thousands of mostly African and Caribbean people

:55:40.:55:39.

in the UK. During a so-called Sickle Cell

:55:40.:55:39.

crises or episode, red blood cells change shape,

:55:40.:55:39.

causing intense pain And as Noel Phillips reports,

:55:40.:55:39.

just having the condition can make This boy was six when he died

:55:40.:55:39.

from organ failure, sepsis He just kept saying "Mum,

:55:40.:55:39.

I want to lie down." SHE TOLD OPERATORS HER SON WAS

:55:40.:55:39.

VOMITING AND HAD A TEMPERATURE. Over the next hour his

:55:40.:55:39.

condition worsened. I don't feel it was treated urgently

:55:40.:55:39.

enough, when that person on the phone told me I would have

:55:40.:55:39.

to probably wait up to 45 minutes Two ambulances and a rapid response

:55:40.:55:39.

unit were dispatched but then cancelled and sent

:55:40.:55:39.

to more urgent cases. But shortly after paramedics

:55:40.:55:39.

arrived, the child went I was a little bit panicked,

:55:40.:55:39.

but I was not trying to show that Lola is one of the country's most

:55:40.:55:39.

senior sickle cell nurses. You combine vomiting, diarrhoea,

:55:40.:55:39.

that the mother said the child You combine those things together

:55:40.:55:39.

with the fact that the child has sickle cell disease and that should

:55:40.:55:39.

be a trigger sufficient to say that In a statement, the ambulance

:55:40.:55:39.

service apologised for the delay The medical director added that over

:55:40.:55:39.

the last few years they had worked closely with the Sickle Cell Society

:55:40.:55:39.

to improve care to patients. It is like being stabbed

:55:40.:55:39.

while someone is pouring This man is one of 15,000

:55:40.:55:39.

people in Britain living It causes crippling pain,

:55:40.:55:39.

but he claims he has had to wait Waiting in a cubicle

:55:40.:55:39.

for two plus hours. Jo Howard is a sickle

:55:40.:55:39.

cell consultant. In a recent report she says that

:55:40.:55:39.

staff shortages mean that patients Patients should be treated

:55:40.:55:39.

within 30 minutes. I think that is an absolutely

:55:40.:55:39.

reasonable thing that we should be I think all Trusts should

:55:40.:55:39.

be aiming to do that. I have had to teach

:55:40.:55:39.

the doctors about it. Davinia has been living

:55:40.:55:39.

with the disease for 30 years. The understanding and

:55:40.:55:39.

the care is not there. Nurses don't learn

:55:40.:55:39.

while they are training, NHS England say they are committed

:55:40.:55:39.

to providing patients with the high standards of treatment

:55:40.:55:39.

care and support. But Davinia says the condition

:55:40.:55:39.

remains largely overlooked and, like sickle cell sufferers,

:55:40.:55:39.

will remain difficult. That was no Phillips there with that

:55:40.:55:39.

report. Coming up in a moment on the BBC

:55:40.:55:39.

News Channel is Business Live. He's gone from lifting

:55:40.:55:39.

the Premier League trophy to collecting his P45

:55:40.:55:39.

in just nine months. We'll get reaction from a former

:55:40.:55:39.

Leicester player to the club's There is already lots of reaction

:55:40.:55:39.

coming in from fans and other people as well. It's one of those stories,

:55:40.:55:39.

even if you are not interested in football, the story, the rise and

:55:40.:55:39.

fall of Leicester City is quite interesting to a lot of people.

:55:40.:55:39.

Comments here, one saying, let's be honest, Leicester over achieved last

:55:40.:55:39.

season. Did they really expect they'd be able to repeat it? It's

:55:40.:55:39.

not Claudio Ranieri's fault. And another viewer said, players to

:55:40.:55:39.

blame. They think they've arrived, performances have dropped, not

:55:40.:55:39.

staying hungry. And another viewer said instead of sacking managers,

:55:40.:55:39.

why not sack the players? Catherine says the same, nobody ever

:55:40.:55:39.

blames the overpaid players, they should hang their heads in shame.

:55:40.:55:39.

They have let down Claudio Lots of comments coming in, thank you for

:55:40.:55:39.

those. We will be talking about them with Mike

:55:40.:55:39.

I am back with the latest in half an hour.

:55:40.:55:39.

Hello, this is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Steph McGovern.

:55:40.:55:39.

The Conservatives have won the the Cumbrian seat of Copeland

:55:40.:55:39.

The Conservatives have won the Cumbrian seat of Copeland

:55:40.:55:39.

which had been in Labour's hands for more than 80 years.

:55:40.:55:39.

In the night's other result Labour held on to Stoke Central,

:55:40.:55:39.

with UKIP leader Paul Nuttall finishing in second place.

:55:40.:55:39.

Labour Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell gave us his reaction. This

:55:40.:55:39.

issue around the future of the nuclear industry clearly dominated

:55:40.:55:39.

that election campaign, although we campaign very hard on the NHS and

:55:40.:55:39.

although we gave the community assurances about the future of

:55:40.:55:39.

nuclear in that area. A lot of misinformation put out by the

:55:40.:55:39.

Conservatives meant we could not convince people by that. I am

:55:40.:55:39.

disappointed, but it is not unexpected given the unique

:55:40.:55:39.

Our political correspondent Alex Forsyth joins us

:55:40.:55:39.

Interesting hearing John McDonnell's take on what happened first. Tell us

:55:40.:55:39.

what you make of that result. It is a victory for the Conservatives. It

:55:40.:55:39.

is very rare that a governing party can take a seat from an opposition

:55:40.:55:39.

party, particularly in Copeland, which is a Labour stronghold. There

:55:40.:55:39.

is a recognition that is a very disappointing loss for them, but

:55:40.:55:39.

they are saying local issues on the ground came into play. That will

:55:40.:55:39.

fuel the critics of Jeremy Corbyn who will ask the question is he the

:55:40.:55:39.

right man to lead Labour at this time? John McDonnell is pointing out

:55:40.:55:39.

they are not celebrating their win in Stoke either. He is saying it is

:55:40.:55:39.

significant. We can see behind you Paul Nuttall's HQ. It is a relief

:55:40.:55:39.

for labour that they held onto this seat. Had they lost both, it would

:55:40.:55:39.

have been a bad result. As much as it is a sense of relief, for Ukip it

:55:40.:55:39.

is a sense of disappointment. They had framed this by-election as a

:55:40.:55:39.

test for whether or not they could do what they wanted to do after the

:55:40.:55:39.

referendum, which is eaten into the labour heart in the Midlands and the

:55:40.:55:39.

north of England. The fact they have not taken this seat will be

:55:40.:55:39.

disappointing for them. They ate into Labour's majority, but it was

:55:40.:55:39.

not enough. Royal Bank of Scotland has reported

:55:40.:55:39.

an annual loss of ?7 billion pounds, its ninth consecutive year

:55:40.:55:39.

in the red. It is not great news because it is a

:55:40.:55:39.

big rise in that loss. They have tripled the from 2016. Not very good

:55:40.:55:39.

figures. We own three quarters of the bank and it also owns NatWest

:55:40.:55:39.

and Ulster bank as well. It said it had ?10 billion of one of costs in

:55:40.:55:39.

2016, partly litigation costs in America, and partly because of the

:55:40.:55:39.

cost of its failure to spin off many of its branches in England and Wales

:55:40.:55:39.

into another business. Some pressure on its boss and we have heard from

:55:40.:55:39.

the chief executive of RBS, Ross McEwing. We are having to deal with

:55:40.:55:39.

a lot of issues from the past and my strategy is to deal with those

:55:40.:55:39.

things as quickly as possible and restructure the bank so becomes back

:55:40.:55:39.

into the UK as a core part of the bank. ?2 billion worth of costs over

:55:40.:55:39.

the next four years. That could mean job cuts and changes in branches, we

:55:40.:55:39.

have not had details. Malaysian police say the highly

:55:40.:55:39.

toxic nerve agent VX has been found on the face of Kim Jong-nam,

:55:40.:55:39.

the murdered half brother VX is an extremely toxic chemical

:55:40.:55:39.

warfare substance and just a drop CCTV footage showed two women

:55:40.:55:39.

briefly holding something over Kim Jong-nam's face

:55:40.:55:39.

while he was preparing to board a flight at

:55:40.:55:39.

Kuala Lumpur airport last week. More universities in England will be

:55:40.:55:39.

soon be able to offer degree courses which last for just two years

:55:40.:55:39.

under new plans. In return they will be able

:55:40.:55:39.

to increase annual tuition fees to more than ?13,000

:55:40.:55:39.

although the overall cost of a degree will still

:55:40.:55:39.

be capped at ?27,000. The clear-up continues this morning

:55:40.:55:39.

after Storm Doris battered much of the UK leaving one woman dead

:55:40.:55:39.

after being hit by flying debris. Winds of up to 94mph caused power

:55:40.:55:39.

cuts and travel chaos as flights were grounded

:55:40.:55:39.

and train services disrupted. Drivers are being warned to be

:55:40.:55:39.

wary of ice on the roads in Scotland, Northern Ireland,

:55:40.:55:39.

and North West England. And coming up here on Breakfast this

:55:40.:55:39.

morning: After the author Helen Bailey was murdered by a man

:55:40.:55:39.

she met whilst grieving for her first husband,

:55:40.:55:39.

we'll speak to a charity for people whose partners have died

:55:40.:55:39.

and ask if they can be particularly vulnerable

:55:40.:55:39.

when starting new relationships. Legendary promoter Harvey Goldsmith

:55:40.:55:39.

will be here to tell us about his new project,

:55:40.:55:39.

that tells the story of British pop music

:55:40.:55:39.

from The Beatles through to Adele. And they've been in decline

:55:40.:55:39.

for years, but we'll find out about a new plan to save the UK's

:55:40.:55:39.

last remaining red squirrels and how We are going to talk about the

:55:40.:55:39.

sport. The story is Claudio Ranieri. You do not have to be a follower of

:55:40.:55:39.

football to embrace that story, that moment, when Leicester did so

:55:40.:55:39.

wonderfully against all the odds, but right now it is he to zero. He

:55:40.:55:39.

is sacked. It did capture the hearts of the world and those are far

:55:40.:55:39.

beyond the world of football, that is why there is so much emotion and

:55:40.:55:39.

even anger around this morning. Their form in the league may be

:55:40.:55:39.

woeful, but the timing of Claudio Ranieri's sacking has shocked many.

:55:40.:55:39.

Gary Lineker, former Leicester striker, tweeted,

:55:40.:55:39.

"After all that Claudio Ranieri has done for Leicester City, to sack him

:55:40.:55:39.

now is inexplicable, unforgivable and gut-wrenchingly sad."

:55:40.:55:39.

Former Leicester forward Dion Dublin was also shocked by the news saying

:55:40.:55:39.

Sacking the manager that won you the Premiere League title!

:55:40.:55:39.

And Ranieri has had support from his peers.

:55:40.:55:39.

Manchester United's Manager Jose Mourinho offered his condolences.

:55:40.:55:39.

Sacked, that's the new football Claudio.

:55:40.:55:39.

Nobody can delete the history you wrote.

:55:40.:55:39.

We can join David Ornstein in Leicester who I hope will explain it

:55:40.:55:39.

all to us. We are here at the King Power Stadium were just in May last

:55:40.:55:39.

year we were seeing such scenes of celebration as Leicester City won

:55:40.:55:39.

the first and only league title in their 133 year history against all

:55:40.:55:39.

odds. 5000-1 shots. A victory masterminded by Claudio Ranieri, and

:55:40.:55:39.

Joining us now from Leicester City's stadium is former Leicester City

:55:40.:55:39.

What is the reaction today? The majority of the fans had a great

:55:40.:55:39.

deal of respect, and also the people working inside the King Power

:55:40.:55:39.

Stadium, they had a beautiful affiliation with the crowd. I know

:55:40.:55:39.

how well he got on with the majority of the staff inside. What is the

:55:40.:55:39.

right decision? Have they made the correct decision in your eyes? This

:55:40.:55:39.

is the $6 million question. What you have got to do is look at it from

:55:40.:55:39.

both sides of the quarrying. But the owners' point of view they have to

:55:40.:55:39.

make sure that the club stays in the Premier League, they invested a lot

:55:40.:55:39.

of money in the summer in recruitment. That has not gone to

:55:40.:55:39.

plan. You have to take into consideration where they went in the

:55:40.:55:39.

league. On the other side, you have to take the fans into consideration

:55:40.:55:39.

and the players. Time will only tell if it is the right decision. Where

:55:40.:55:39.

do Leicester City go from here? Do they go for a big-name manager or do

:55:40.:55:39.

they stick with the caretaker manager? The most important thing is

:55:40.:55:39.

they have got to stay in the league. It has to be short-term. They have

:55:40.:55:39.

got to get somebody into the dressing room who will give the

:55:40.:55:39.

players a shock and get them up the table. There is a mixture of

:55:40.:55:39.

emotions here today, but a huge amount of disappointment, although

:55:40.:55:39.

some fans feel it is the right decision to make with Leicester City

:55:40.:55:39.

just one point above the relegation zone. By the time they play against

:55:40.:55:39.

Liverpool on Monday they could be in the bottom three and that is what

:55:40.:55:39.

has cost Claudio Ranieri his job. That fairy tale for him is now over.

:55:40.:55:39.

David and Jerry, thank you. We will watch this space.

:55:40.:55:39.

It was a dismal night for Tottenham - out of the Europa League

:55:40.:55:39.

after they could only draw 2-2 against Gent of Belgium at Wembley,

:55:40.:55:39.

Dismal especially for two of their England stars.

:55:40.:55:39.

His own goal making it 1-1 on the night, then another

:55:40.:55:39.

of Spurs' England players, Dele Alli, was sent-off

:55:40.:55:39.

Tottenham out, leaving Manchester United as the only

:55:40.:55:39.

British side in today's last 16 draw.

:55:40.:55:39.

World champion constructors Mercedes have unveiled their new car

:55:40.:55:39.

It will be going a lot faster than this when the season starts

:55:40.:55:39.

But for now Lewis Hamilton, who was joined by new team

:55:40.:55:39.

mate Valtteri Bottas, took the car for a few laps around

:55:40.:55:39.

You can see the wind shaking the camera.

:55:40.:55:39.

Hamilton said the car felt incredible.

:55:40.:55:39.

He approved, as he got the keys to his new car. He also went on to say

:55:40.:55:39.

that he does not think all the changes for the new season will mean

:55:40.:55:39.

more excitement and more overtaking, which is a big worry. It is not as

:55:40.:55:39.

if we are in the car! That is it really. Do you want me to

:55:40.:55:39.

say something else? It has always been the remain of

:55:40.:55:39.

trendy, young people, free running. Are you having a go? Yes, plus

:55:40.:55:39.

76-year-old George and some people in their 80s. That is tomorrow

:55:40.:55:39.

morning. We've known for years that the red

:55:40.:55:39.

squirrel population is in decline, and conservationists have been

:55:40.:55:39.

working hard to try to Now animal lovers are getting

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a chance to do their bit, the Wildlife Trusts are uniting

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to recruit thousands of volunteers Aisling McVeigh has been

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to Mere Sands Wood nature reserve Red squirrels were once a common

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sight across much of the UK. The introduction of their grey

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cousins 141 years ago spelt disaster Carrying a disease which killed

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reds, the greedy grey squirrel dominates our landscape more

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than a century on, with more There are just 140,000

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reds in comparison. But in recent years efforts

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to protect reds have had some success and now for the first time

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the wildlife trusts are combining to recruit 5,000 volunteers to help

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with these conservation efforts. People will be asked to monitor

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and record data and, if they're willing, they'll be given

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training on how to cull They're hoping the Red Squirrels

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United project will not only maintain but maybe

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even increase numbers. We can train people to help

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with the monitoring, using cameras and tubes,

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we also need people to record their sightings and report

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them to us and also help It's a really great opportunity

:55:40.:55:39.

for people to get involved in a large-scale conservation

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project at a local level This map shows how many red

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squirrels were around compared to 2010.

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The saving Scotland's red squirrels volunteer project is also going to

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get under way. Most of us will never get close to a baby 's Grill. Rachel

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is nursing this one back to health. With this campaign there is a chance

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to make sure this native species survives and maybe even flourishes

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once again in the UK. We're joined by Cathleen Thomas

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from The Wildlife Trusts. You either programme manager of this

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great programme called red squirrels united, which sounds like a football

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team! Tell us about it. It is the first nationwide programme to

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conserve red squirrels across the UK. We work in England, Wales and

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Northern Ireland and in partnership with Scotland as well to look after

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them. You are looking for volunteers, what would they do?

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There are lots of different ways they can help out. One of the main

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things they can do is to help us with monitoring and survey in. We

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have a lot of trail cameras we put out every year and from March until

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maybe they can help with that. After that they can keep an eye on where

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the red squirrels and the grey squirrels are. There is an

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educational component and they can help us get the message across about

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this really iconic species for the UK.

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This will sound like a silly question, that Red Square will looks

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incredibly red, in the wild is it obvious whether they are bred or

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square? The grey squirrels can sometimes be a bit ginger, the red

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ones can sometimes be grey. Red squirrels sometimes have tufts of

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hair on their years. They don't have them all year round and juveniles do

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not always have them. But if you look at the tail of a red squirrel,

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it is a solid colour, a grey squirrel has a white halo around its

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because the hairs in the tailor the grill -- grey squirrel have

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multiplied. Most people will be accustomed to seeing these? The garb

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especially in the south of England. Does this not mean the grey

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squirrels are being treated quite harshly? Gulp we don't treat them

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harshly. Unfortunately we are in a position where the two species can't

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live together. We have grey squirrels everywhere with no red

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squirrels living alongside them. We do not treat Grace Krul 's harshly,

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we treat them humanely. There is culling, that is pretty harsh? We

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have evidence that it works. As a wildlife trust we would not do

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something like that if we did not know it worked, the project has a

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big scientific component where we look at the populations to make sure

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that what we're doing is worthwhile, otherwise we would not do it.

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On the graphic we saw areas with some red squirrels, where are they?

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We work across nine different stronghold areas, two in England,

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Kielder Forest and around Formby woodlands in Merseyside. There are

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three main areas in Wales, Anglesey and Gwinnett, and a couple of

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forests, and four areas in Northern Ireland. Are there any red squirrels

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in woodland in urban areas? In Merseyside, that is quite an urban

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area. Lots of people in that area do not realise, there is a red squirrel

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population in Formby woodlands but also in the urban area surrounding,

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places like Southport and is often have red squirrels and we are doing

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and awareness programmes so that people realise that. When you are

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looking for volunteers, is it for people across the UK or specific

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areas? Mainly around the nine stronghold areas, we need people to

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help with the survey. But people living in areas where there are only

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grey squirrels can help us by adopting squirrels and visiting

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squirrels in those areas, there is a big thing about red squirrel

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tourism, they can look at them and help us that way. There is just

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something about them, is it because they are fluffy? You know what I

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mean, certain animals, people are naturally fond of. They are fluffy

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and have big eyes, they are playful, they run around and chase each other

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and nothing really beats that when you are walking and you see them

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running around. Thank you very much for coming in, Cathleen Thomas, the

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programme manager of Red Squirrels United.

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Here's Nick with a look at this morning's weather.

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I wonder if the red squirrels are resident genius is getting on bird

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feeders as the grey squirrels are in my area.

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This is the calm after storm Doris, look how far it has gone overnight

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and into this morning. We have a quiet spell of weather behind it. It

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is colder this morning, we had some icy patches and parts of Scotland,

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Northern Ireland and northern England. Still close to freezing in

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Aberdeen and Edinburgh, many of us are getting some sunshine. There are

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some shell is to be found in Scotland, clearing away from East

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Anglia and pushing into parts of North Wales, north-west England and

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the Midlands, very few and far between. Looking at the wind speed,

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nothing compared to yesterday. A colder, calmer, sunny morning.

:55:40.:55:39.

A really quiet day to come for many. Patchy cloud building where you

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start with sunshine, the risk of an isolated shower, most places staying

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dry. There is a change in Northern Ireland and western Scotland, we

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have a weather system bringing outbreaks of rain and a freshening

:55:40.:55:39.

wind, not on the scale of Storm Doris. Temperatures for many will be

:55:40.:55:39.

in single figures, feeling colder. Overnight, we take rain away from

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Northern Ireland and into southern Scotland. Pop-up -- for parts of

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northern England and the Midlands as well, not much in southern England.

:55:40.:55:39.

Miles in the south-west, not as chilly tonight. Gill is developing

:55:40.:55:39.

into north-west Scotland, a very gusty start to the weekend. -- gales

:55:40.:55:39.

are developing. This weekend, mild, blustery, not on the scale of Storm

:55:40.:55:39.

Doris, we will all see rain at some stage. The heaviest rain will be on

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the hills of western Scotland into north-west England. Slipping

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Southeast Woods on Saturday, not much reaching south-east England.

:55:40.:55:39.

The afternoon brightens up the Scotland and Northern Ireland, the

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wind eases, going into double figures, but quite windy. In Tea

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Party the weekend, another weather system coming in, a north-west

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south-east process, a breezy picture, I don't think we will see

:55:40.:55:39.

the rain reaching East Anglia and the south-east into after dark.

:55:40.:55:39.

Double-figure temperatures. That will not last into next week, it

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will be turning colder again and quite showery on Monday.

:55:40.:55:39.

Unsettled and windy at times for the weekend, but we are putting Storm

:55:40.:55:39.

Doris behind us. Disruption continuing, plenty of clear up but

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we do not have another storm on the horizon, just regular UK type

:55:40.:55:39.

occasionally unsettled weather in the forecast.

:55:40.:55:39.

Regular is what we like to hear at the moment, thank you very much.

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The murder of author Helen Bailey by her fiance Ian Stewart has thrown

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a spotlight on how people who've lost their partners can be

:55:40.:55:39.

vulnerable when trying to start new relationships.

:55:40.:55:39.

Helen was grieving for her husband when she met Ian Stewart and both

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were active members of the support group Widowed and Young -

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Georgia Elms, chairman of Widowed and Young,

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Thank you so much for your time. First of all, I know you got to know

:55:40.:55:39.

Helen Little bit through the various organisations, tell us a little bit

:55:40.:55:39.

about your with her? Just to highlight, she didn't meet EN

:55:40.:55:39.

through WAY, she was a member of WAY. -- she didn't meet Ian through

:55:40.:55:39.

WAY. Helen had a fantastic blog that I saw on another grief website that

:55:40.:55:39.

I knew would help our members, I asked her she would share her blog,

:55:40.:55:39.

Planet Agrees with members of WAY because I knew it would help. --

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share her blog, Planet Grief. She presented at one of our conferences

:55:40.:55:39.

in Edinburgh, which is mentioned in her book When Bad Things Happen In

:55:40.:55:39.

Good Bikinis. She and my family both had DAX ands, so we send each other

:55:40.:55:39.

silly pictures concerning that breed of dog. Her blog helped many people

:55:40.:55:39.

who did not know her. She said how it was, what it is like to grieve.

:55:40.:55:39.

The raw grief that she said, but the things you are going through. When

:55:40.:55:39.

you are grieving, one of the things as you do not get an instruction

:55:40.:55:39.

booklet and to read her blog and see what she was saying made you realise

:55:40.:55:39.

that some of the feelings I am having real, it is OK, other people

:55:40.:55:39.

are having them. It is interesting hearing you

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describe how she spoke, this is a little sequence from an interview we

:55:40.:55:39.

did with Helen. This was last year. We did a series focusing on death

:55:40.:55:39.

and how people cope with bereavement. We spoke to her.

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My husband died in an accident in Barbados in February 2011

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and when I got back to the UK I try to write about it.

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I'm a professional writer and I found I was completely

:55:40.:55:39.

and utterly blocked with grief, I had total writer's block.

:55:40.:55:39.

About four months after he died I started a blog

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I started writing about the little things that are huge in bereavement,

:55:40.:55:39.

so the loneliness of buying a single Scotch egg, putting the wheelie bins

:55:40.:55:39.

It was interesting because when the blog became public one

:55:40.:55:39.

of the things that came that were other widows and widowers

:55:40.:55:39.

sharing their stories and saying, I'm not actually mad.

:55:40.:55:39.

I was doing things like still setting a place at the table,

:55:40.:55:39.

still stacking the dishwasher exactly as he would like it

:55:40.:55:39.

Georgia, that was Helen taking part in that discussion, very much

:55:40.:55:39.

reflecting what you were talking about earlier. I remember very well

:55:40.:55:39.

that day because Ian Stewart was with her for the 24-hour period when

:55:40.:55:39.

she was talking with us in her capacity, talking about her blog. It

:55:40.:55:39.

is only human to think about your reflections and what he was like.

:55:40.:55:39.

Did she share with you anything about her new relationship, as it

:55:40.:55:39.

was then? No, I said I didn't want to talk

:55:40.:55:39.

about the case but no, everything was what was in the blog, that was a

:55:40.:55:39.

very public thing and people saw. We all read that. Yeah, we knew what

:55:40.:55:39.

was happening. I know it is very important for you

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and your organisation to talk about how people deal with bereavement,

:55:40.:55:39.

that very difficult sequence of events afterwards. Right at the

:55:40.:55:39.

beginning of the interview, you are very keen to point out that there is

:55:40.:55:39.

a danger that people think of the people as being fun rubble, as such.

:55:40.:55:39.

Talk is through how you think about that very difficult period of time

:55:40.:55:39.

-- there is a danger that people think about bereaved people as being

:55:40.:55:39.

vulnerable. Your life changes forever. I was widowed ten and a

:55:40.:55:39.

half years ago and it is still like that. Obviously not the total raw

:55:40.:55:39.

grief that you get at the beginning, but especially when you are widowed

:55:40.:55:39.

young, which is why we are specifically for widows bereaved

:55:40.:55:39.

under the age of 51, your life is just... What you planned has changed

:55:40.:55:39.

and you are stuck there and everything and it is a panic.

:55:40.:55:39.

Regards to... WAY is not a dating agency, the same way that people

:55:40.:55:39.

vulnerable, what you are going through is so horrendous that most

:55:40.:55:39.

people are not even thinking about a relationship at that time. They are

:55:40.:55:39.

just trying to get through each day with the loss of somebody that was

:55:40.:55:39.

their partner. 75% of WAY members have got children, they are having

:55:40.:55:39.

to cope with children, most people are struggling for money because

:55:40.:55:39.

they have lost another income, 25% of members do not have children and

:55:40.:55:39.

are having to deal with the fact that they planned to have children

:55:40.:55:39.

and that is gone. There is so much going on when you are first

:55:40.:55:39.

bereaved, then by joining WAY you speak to other people in that

:55:40.:55:39.

situation, however much your friends and family wants to help you, they

:55:40.:55:39.

don't understand. By joining WAY you meet people who actually understand.

:55:40.:55:39.

We always say to people that we have a code of conduct, we are a

:55:40.:55:39.

membership organisation, you need to be careful, don't give out personal

:55:40.:55:39.

details, that is not just on WAY, that is on anything. There are other

:55:40.:55:39.

Internet things which are dating agencies where people can meet

:55:40.:55:39.

people who are not safe. People are vulnerable, but not as in to be

:55:40.:55:39.

targeted, I think, it is just when you are grieving your whole life

:55:40.:55:39.

just changes so much. Thank you very much for taking the

:55:40.:55:39.

time for us, Georgia Elwiss, chairman of WAY, Widowed and Young.

:55:40.:55:39.

-- thank you very much, Georgia Elms.

:55:40.:55:39.

Purchasing big brands can come with big price tags,

:55:40.:55:39.

but do we really need their products and are

:55:40.:55:39.

I've teamed up with The One Show's Alex Jones for a new series

:55:40.:55:39.

of Shop Well for Less, where we try to help families

:55:40.:55:39.

In yesterday's programme we were with the Rodger family.

:55:40.:55:39.

Here's a clip after we took away some of their favourite gadgets.

:55:40.:55:39.

If it doesn't do kids' stuff, we're off to my mum's.

:55:40.:55:39.

It's like the same, but it's not the same.

:55:40.:55:39.

And to reduce those utility bills, some energy-saving tactics.

:55:40.:55:39.

I can turn the heating down from anywhere.

:55:40.:55:39.

I'm definitely sceptical about it, but if we're going to save money

:55:40.:55:39.

that we can save up and go on holiday, that would be amazing.

:55:40.:55:39.

And Mum Karen Rodger - with her three-year-old twins

:55:40.:55:39.

and two of her boys - joins us now.

:55:40.:55:39.

Thank you very much. Karen, can you explain to people what it is like in

:55:40.:55:39.

your house? I remember when we turned up, three sets of twins. It

:55:40.:55:39.

is a house full of fun and laughter, but so busy. It is a very busy

:55:40.:55:39.

house, me and my husband are out working, these two are at university

:55:40.:55:39.

and the boys are at school and it is chaos all the time and you never get

:55:40.:55:39.

time to relax. The washing in particular is the thing that shocked

:55:40.:55:39.

me the most. We do about five washes a day because the boys are all I'm

:55:40.:55:39.

doing sport and the girls are three, so they end up with chocolate and

:55:40.:55:39.

orange juice all over them, so the washing machine is never off. Living

:55:40.:55:39.

in Scotland you can imagine the weather, you cannot hang your

:55:40.:55:39.

washing outside, so we use the tumble drier. To be clear, Stanford

:55:40.:55:39.

comes in and says, you should not use that tumble drier, I have got a

:55:40.:55:39.

cheaper alternative, but you reject that. I tried, and I gave it a go,

:55:40.:55:39.

but it did not logistically work for us. I have not got time to put it on

:55:40.:55:39.

the hangers and hang it up. It is constant, I do not stop for a

:55:40.:55:39.

minute. Out of the washing machine and into the tumble drier. You are

:55:40.:55:39.

at an age where stuff matters. We all know that. It might be your

:55:40.:55:39.

phone or your trainers. Someone comes in and says, you do not need

:55:40.:55:39.

that, you can buy cheaper things that are just as good. Was it

:55:40.:55:39.

something instinctive that made you feel, I do not want to do that, I

:55:40.:55:39.

want my products. At first it was strange because you are getting your

:55:40.:55:39.

things taken off you. When we came home things were all taped up and

:55:40.:55:39.

things were missing, so it was a shock at first. You got used to it

:55:40.:55:39.

and then you settled down and you could use it more. It is about

:55:40.:55:39.

brands as well. That is a big part for me. I was going from wearing all

:55:40.:55:39.

these branded shoes and then going to the non-branded ones and looking

:55:40.:55:39.

at the shoes it was horrible and I thought I could not do it to be

:55:40.:55:39.

honest. But with the technology I can understand because to me it is

:55:40.:55:39.

just about getting used to it. We were given the phones and I was a

:55:40.:55:39.

bit wary at first, but as we used it more I got used to it. Nobody likes

:55:40.:55:39.

changing, but when you do change it is about how long it takes. The

:55:40.:55:39.

shoes were quite a sight for all of us. Shall we have a look at that?

:55:40.:55:39.

Karen and Colin might be surprised to see their belongings...

:55:40.:55:39.

It's certainly tidier than our house.

:55:40.:55:39.

But they're going to be more surprised at the amount of money

:55:40.:55:39.

So how many shoes do you think you've got in your family?

:55:40.:55:39.

So, you have over 200 pairs of shoes.

:55:40.:55:39.

I can't believe you've just told on me!

:55:40.:55:39.

You can see that is when we took all the stuff out of your house and put

:55:40.:55:39.

it in a pop-up shop. It is about you wanting a holiday and you want to

:55:40.:55:39.

save money to do that. Yes, the shoes for me, I have got shoes that

:55:40.:55:39.

I have had since I was 18. For me I collect my shoes and I look after

:55:40.:55:39.

them, so that is my thing, that is why I have so many. It rubs off on

:55:40.:55:39.

the boys, etc, but we have rain in things you guys have been. Sure?

:55:40.:55:39.

Honestly, we have bought a couple since Christmas and that is it. They

:55:40.:55:39.

are out working now and they are earning their own money. That is my

:55:40.:55:39.

excuse to buy shoes. She is making herself very comfortable. The big

:55:40.:55:39.

question is, has anything genuinely changed? It is one thing when you

:55:40.:55:39.

have got the cameras there and the production team is putting pressure

:55:40.:55:39.

on you, but have things changed? I would have never changed my washing

:55:40.:55:39.

powder, I know it sounds ridiculous. I have always used what my mother

:55:40.:55:39.

use, and I have never changed it. I just about finished the big box I

:55:40.:55:39.

bought before you guys came, so I am definitely swapping it. She will

:55:40.:55:39.

come back and check. And I noticed some Disney princess dresses as

:55:40.:55:39.

well. She is very busy chatting. Do you remember your Disney princess

:55:40.:55:39.

dresses? Have you still got them? Did you like as being at your house?

:55:40.:55:39.

Thank you for coming to see us and good luck. Good luck with university

:55:40.:55:39.

as well. Shop Well for Less is on at 8pm,

:55:40.:55:39.

Thursday evenings on BBC One. We will speak to Harvey Goldsmith in

:55:40.:55:39.

a moment. First, the I'll be back at half past one

:55:40.:55:39.

with the lunchtime news. I am reading things and looking at

:55:40.:55:39.

things and Harvey Goldsmith has joined us. You are involved in the

:55:40.:55:39.

launch of a museum. I am chairman of the British Music Experience

:55:40.:55:39.

trustees. We are launching our museum in Liverpool and we are

:55:40.:55:39.

opening on March nine. It is the most spectacular art deco palace

:55:40.:55:39.

that we are going into. The building is one thing and then it is the

:55:40.:55:39.

stuff. Talk us through this. I thought this was just a gold disc

:55:40.:55:39.

and it was a celebration of chart success, but this is Buddy Holly,

:55:40.:55:39.

dated 1957. This is the original recording of That Will Be The Day by

:55:40.:55:39.

Buddy Holly. His wife and the trustees of the state wanted us to

:55:40.:55:39.

have a Buddy Holly exhibit, so we have a lot of staff. Our celebration

:55:40.:55:39.

is primarily about British music of course. But we also have artists for

:55:40.:55:39.

whom the UK was a serious influence to them and Buddy Holly was as

:55:40.:55:39.

popular here as he was in America. This is a letter from him, where he

:55:40.:55:39.

is writing a letter trying to get his first gig. It is signed. He has

:55:40.:55:39.

done it in block capitals. Yes, you will see he signed it at the bottom.

:55:40.:55:39.

He is pleading to get his first show going. If you are interested in

:55:40.:55:39.

this, we would appreciate it if you would write to me. Buddy Holly. He

:55:40.:55:39.

was such an influence on the early pop stars from the Beatles even to

:55:40.:55:39.

these days. Everybody loved by the loved Buddy Holly. I would like to

:55:40.:55:39.

come to your school and play a stage show. Tell us about the guitars we

:55:40.:55:39.

have got on the sofa as well. This is a guitar made by Gibson. There is

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only one, and this is it. It is for live aid and was made in 2000 and

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five and it is signed by the artists. This is the logo and Gibson

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made it for us. It is offender. That is Rick Parfitt's original guitar.

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It was made in 1962. He had two or three very favourite guitars and

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this is one of them. That is signed by Francis Rossi and Rick Parfitt.

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Rick tragically passed away last year as well. It is not just things

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from the past, it is the present as well. It starts in 1946 with the end

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of the big band era and it goes into jazz, skiffle and then rock and the

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Cliff Richard days and Joe Brown and so on. That goes into the Beatles

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and it takes you all the way through until today. We have an area for the

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Brits were we will be showing clips from the Brits that was on two days

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ago. We have got the X Factor represented as well. It is rich

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talent that only the UK could provide. We have a fantastic exhibit

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from David Bowie, we have Cilla Black and Dusty Springfield's

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dresses and outfits. We have got about 800 artefacts and we tell the

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story in three different ways. We tell it through the history and you

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can see how music morphed from one form to the other. But we also tell

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it by the way it is transmitted and the way it was broadcast, so you can

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see all the history from the early TVs right up until today. Ordinary

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people, people not in your business, if they go to a concept they will

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keep a bit of memorabilia, maybe the brochure from the event or the

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ticket from a gig. As a promoter you have been in some extraordinary

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moment in time going back many years. Did you do that? Did you say,

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I have got to get a little something because this will not happen again?

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I did, actually, yes. I have got all sorts of things. Tickets, passes,

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signed programmes, posters and leaflets. What are the ones you most

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value either emotionally or in terms of their musical significance? I

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worked with some of the very old blues musicians and muggy Waters

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signed an album sleeve for me which I did not ask for. He just gave it

:55:40.:55:39.

to me at the end of a tour we did. He wrote some really nice things.

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Bob Dylan wrote some stuff for me and so on. They all do, really. I

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have kept them all and one day I will have my own museum. I am trying

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to work out what to do with it because it spans quite a way back.

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It is fascinating. Part of what we are trying to do is celebrate the

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richness of the most amazing talent we have in the UK, and also to get

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young people, to stimulate them for them to say, I want to get into it.

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We have an instrument room as well where you can go and play every

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single instrument and you can record it. So you can have a go. We have a

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dance room as well. And an exhibit from live aid. Yes, we are still

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giving out money on live aid, believe it or not. Lovely to see you

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and thank you for bringing in these various things.

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The British Music Experience opens in Liverpool on the 9th March.

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We're back from 6am tomorrow on BBC One.

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Now it's time for Britain's Home Truths with Nicki Chapman.

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Us Brits have a passion for property

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and of course our national obsession is house prices.

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But housing is about so much more than bricks and mortar.

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