19/05/2017 Breakfast

Hello, this is Breakfast, with Charlie Stayt and Sally Nugent.

Brexit dominates the first big TV debate of the election campaign.

Leaders of five parties - but not Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn

- go head to head for the debate on ITV.

This morning we have the first of our leaders' interviews

with Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron on the Breakfast sofa.

New figures suggest thousands of police officers across the UK have

not had up-to-date background checks to ensure they are suitable to

serve. The first UK airport

to replace its control tower overlooking the runway,

with a virtual centre Whether it's cool beers in Crete

or ice-creams in Ibiza - the cost of a break this half

term is up almost 10%. I'll be looking at what's pushed up

prices, and what you should do And in sport, Leicester

are given a caning. The outgoing champions are hit

for six by Tottenham, as Harry Kane scores four,

and is now favourite to finish the season as the premier

league's top scorer, And Matt goes back to the jurassic

period in Birmingham Yes. Good morning. My guest may be

prehistoric but it is all about the weekend forecast. It contains a

little bit more rain and sunshine as well. Details in 15 minutes.

Brexit dominated the televised leaders' debate, which was held last

night despite the absence of Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn.

The ITV event saw little disagreement between the Lib Dems,

Green Party, Plaid Cymru and SNP as they repeatedly clashed

Our political correspondent Tom Symonds reports.

Five party leaders took part. Four support Britain remaining in the EU.

And in the absence of Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, they turned on

the one leader who did not, Paul Michael. Attacking his support for a

hard Brexit and his tough line on immigration. Theresa May not have

the guts to be here tonight but her spokesman in the form of Paul

Marshall seems to be here tonight. I know immigration is a difficult

topic for politicians. People have understandable concerns. When we

speak about European migrants, we talk about people who work in the

National health service, whose service in our restaurants. People

who make a contribution. The Ukip leader said Brexit would offer

Britain enormous trade opportunities and controlling immigration would

free up pressure on resources. One of the reasons that wages have

stagnated in recent years and had probably stagnated since about 2004

is because of immigration levels. We have an oversupply of labour in this

country. It is as simple as that. The leader of the Greens said there

was no question for which the answer from Ukip was not immigration. As

for Labour,... Not only did they give the Tories a blank cheque for

the hard Brexit they gave them to lift to the bank and help them to

cash it in. The Liberal Democrats are offering a second vote on

whether Britain should a future Brexit deal. Their leader believes

it is better that people decide than Theresa May. She is putting together

a plan which appeases poor muscle and Nigel Farage that damages the

future of our children. That is why you should have the final say on

Brexit. The leader of Plaid Cymru was concerned that restrictions on

trade protest Brexit could harm Wales's aerospace companies by

introducing stiff tariffs. 6500 well-paid jobs in Wales that you are

prepared to lose. We have a huge trading deficit... Twice under fire,

poor muscle confuse the names of his tormentor. Audience members asked

how the leaders would invest in schools, hospitals and social care

in the future of younger people. There was general agreement - money

would need to be found. When you get's poor muscle insisted there

would be a financial benefit to Britain leaving the EU this was the

reaction... Over talk. A reference to the infamous idol bust and the

promise of ?350 million for the NHS. Will that bus come driving past at

any minute? Brexit continues to dominate this unexpected election

race. We're joined now by our political

correspondent Eleanor Garnier. The leaders' debate was last night,

but the front pages are all Unsurprisingly. We think a few

things stand out from the manifesto yesterday. Yes, we sought to reach a

position in her party firmly in the centre ground with her distinctive

agenda. We saw a string of policies for working families and for those

on low incomes. A cap on energy prices and stronger protections for

rights and the work place, help for those who are poorer and paying for

social care with that means test threshold raised up to $100,000 --

pounds. It was a clear break from the David Cameron is a with the

pension lock on the tax lock on, the Winter fuel payments pull back a

bit. But this positioning as risky as well, taking away benefits from

some older people. Theresa May and her team will be aware of alienating

some traditional Tory voters. And labour this morning as saying that

the Conservatives this morning have returned to being the nasty party

again. They say 10 million pensioners could lose their winter

fuel payments because of the ideas that Theresa may want to put in

place. They it a shameful attack on older people. The Tories say,

actually, they are have yet to cost and work out the means testing for

these Winter fuel changes. I am tempted to say thank you, naturally.

But instead, thank you, Ellen. We'll be speaking to Lib Dem leader

Tim Farron just after seven and SNP If you have any further questions,

do let us know. Thousands of police officers across the UK have not had

up-to-date background checks to ensure they are suitable to serve.

BBC analysis of figures obtained under a Freedom of information

request show that 90% of officers in one force have not been properly

vetted. If a planned programme of retrospective vetting is due to

start but the inspectorate is urging forces to address the matter

urgently. The man who drove a car along three blocks in New York has

killed an 18-year-old woman and injured 22 others. The man had been

arrested twice before for drunk driving. Police said he claimed to

hear voices. He is now in custody. The Mayor of New York said there was

no indication was an act of terrorism.

American warplanes at operating over Syria have attacked a convoy

carrying pro-government militia forces.

it was moving towards a base, used by Western special forces

Last month, the Americans fired 59 cruise missiles at a Syrian

But Washington has insisted its latest military action does not

mean it is stepping up its role in the Syrian war.

The Japanese government has approved plans to allow Emperor Akihito

to step down - the first abdication for two centuries.

The cabinet has backed draft legislation, which will now be sent

The emperor, who's 83, indicated last year his desire

Instagram and Snapchat are the worst social media platforms for young

people's mental health and wellbeing, according

Almost 1,500 people aged 14 to 24 were asked

to rate sites on their impact on anxiety, depression,

The Royal Society for Public Health said YouTube had the most positive

impact on mental health, followed by Twitter and Facebook.

A BBC investigation has found flaws in HSBC's biometric bank security.

Its Voice ID system recognises customers' speech patterns to grant

HSBC says every person's voice is unique and that

But the Click technology programme has shown that it is possible

for someone to log into an account that's not their own.

passwords, key fobs and apps have all been used to protect us. But

over the last year, a new gold standard insecurity has emerged -

biometrics. Like fingerprints, the human voice is unique to each of us

and he just these are, along with other banks, has started using voice

of its customers as their password. They say it's secure. But a simple

experiment with my nonidentical twin brother... Proves otherwise. My

financial details and the ability to transfer money wide open. I'm

absolutely shocked. Under no circumstances should to different

people be able to access the same bank account with voice biometric

authentication. Every voice is unique but it is up to the system to

differentiate between voices and it is not done so in this case. Unlike

a password, a voices public. And experts worry that artificial

intelligence software can synthesise voices so well that it would soon be

able to clone a voice from a sample of 30 seconds or less. A tool which

could make the hacker's job much easier. In response to our terms to

the bank said... Most experts agree that by making

security more personal, you make it more secure. But if your voice can

be copied that unlike passwords, it may be difficult to get a new one.

Dan Simmons, BBC News. It's by the American artist

Jean-Michel Basquiat - and it's just sold at auction

for more than ?84 million. The 1982 piece, which is untitled,

sparked a bidding war at the sale in New York before securing

the highest price ever paid I am glad you said it was an titled

because I just spent the last five minutes trying to find online what

its title is. You know what it's worth, but not what it is called. It

looks like an angry face. It draws you in, doesn't it, but it is quite

angry. ?84 million and you could buy a decent football player. Or three

average ones. Which would you rather have? Just one footballer, just a

kick around the garden with. You would have no chance. And Harry

Kane, on fire to be the top scorer once again.

Harry Kane edges closer to the Premier League golden

He scores four goals taking his season tally to 26

as Tottenham thrash Leicester by six goals to one.

Celtic were also in high scoring mode - they hit five past

Partick Thistle, extending their unbeaten run in Scotland

and lifting their season tally to a record-equalling 103 points.

Diving or feigning injury could now be punished with a ban if officials

It's one of a number of reforms voted through by the FA yesterday.

And Johanna Konta's time in Rome comes to an end.

She's beaten in three sets at the Italian Open,

by seven-time Grand Slam winner Venus Williams.

The second grand slam of the year, the French Open, begins on Monday.

We will return in a moment with the newspapers including what sort of

body shape you are, Charlie. Whether or not you are the same as David

Beckham. It applies to all men. Isn't that rather personal? I have

worked it out already. An inverted triangle. It is subjective. We will

find out more in a moment. In his dreams, that is. I'm confused now.

The body shape thing, we have been distracted. We have some unusual

body shapes with Matt this morning. Good morning. Good morning. Say

hello to my friend, trust me it will come into action shortly. I am at

the Birmingham Botanic Gardens, in the Midlands. These dinosaurs will

be here, rain or not, over the coming month, as we see the

exhibition begins. It starts its tour around the UK. More of these

dinosaurs corrupt the morning. Looking at the details for today,

quite a bit of rain across some parts of the country. There is more

to come for some of you today, especially in eastern parts of the

UK. It's not as -- especially wet here. Clouding over quickly towards

these. And east and west split. The best of the brightness towards

Lancashire and Cumbria. East of the Pennines outbreaks of rain.

Affecting the Midlands, east Anglia and the south-east. The heaviest

rain further north. Towards the south, you overnight rain clears

away, with brighter skies developing towards the mid-morning. Further

west into the sunshine, a chilly start. Scotland, parts of south-west

England and Wales. Frost on the grass. Maybe a couple of showers in

Devon and Cornwall, but most darting dry and sunny. Chilly start in

Northern Ireland. Make the most of the morning sunshine. Gradually

cladding over. A few showers around. The odd heavy one. Eastern Scotland

turns cloudy through the afternoon. Wet, misty and murky in the

north-east of England. Across much of England and Wales heavy,

potentially thundery, showers developing. In the sunshine of 217

degrees. 11- 12 drew some parts of eastern Scotland and north-east

England, where it stays wet. -- through. The cloud of outbreaks of

rain through the night will become more confined to Scotland. Still a

few showers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland in particular. With

clear skies in between it will be on the cool side. It could rule out a

touch of frost in the Saturday morning across the rural parts of

England and Wales in particular. We start the weekend in Scotland with

cloudy weather tomorrow. Occasional rain and drizzle, which will come

and go all day in the far north of Scotland. Elsewhere we have sunshine

drew the morning, then shower clouds develop. Some of them will be heavy

and thundery. You could be a bit of hail mixed in. Some of you avoid the

showers altogether. The best of the sunshine around coastal districts in

the south and west. Temperatures much like today, into the mid or

high teens across many areas. Coolest of all in northern parts of

Scotland. A cool start to Sunday. A dry day on Sunday. Some rain

initially Northern Ireland, spreading west of Portland. Away

from that, long spells of sunshine. -- west of Scotland. The better

chance of dry weather on Sunday. With winds in a southerly direction

it will feel warmer. Temperatures reaching 20 degrees in some southern

and eastern parts of England. More details on that corrupt the morning

and more from my friends as well once they kicked into gear.

We can't wait to hear what they have to say!

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

The main stories this morning: Party leaders clash in the first TV debate

Brexit was high on the agenda, but both Theresa May

A BBC investigation finds thousands of police officers across the UK

have not had up-to-date background checks to ensure

Sean is here with us now. We have been talking about you. I don't know

if any of you stayed up last night to watch the leader's debate. I

don't think the papers did. There is one story really

dominating. The images of Theresa May. The Conservative manifesto

launched yesterday, the Mail says, not afraid to be honest with you.

Looking at some of the proposals in the Conservative manifesto.

Interesting to see how the different papers have covered the manifesto.

The Tory manifesto is shock, talking about the number of old age

pensioners who will be due to lose the Winter fuel allowance.

Clearly they do a lot of work. The politicians on what images are going

to come across. That one of the Daily Telegraph, you can see what

the party was trying to get across. Holding a manifesto. Should they

have thought this one through better? Times. You can see the open

arms. That's the image she wants to betray, but she has got the extra

arms in that shadow. -- portray. A lot of thought goes into them. But

not everything! What have you got? I've being

completely distracted by whatever Mike's got. In the Guardian today,

there is this story saying that 80% of people expect price rises this

year and they've seen sales rise in menswear, healthier food and sales

for her removal products and bread. But on the whole people are

expecting prices to kick in even more than they have this year. So we

are trying to eat more healthily but we are getting more hairy? Yes, and

into less bread. Very specific! One other one I wanted to get him. We've

been talking about this digit -- fidget spinners. Apparently she

couldn't afford the patents, the creator, so she has been missing out

on millions. Apparently it is in loads of schools at the moment. Back

in 2005, she had the chance to patents it, she is from Florida, she

didn't and the next thing you know, 12 years later, everybody is buying

them. Such a simple thing as well. But what a legacy to leave. There we

go. Never mind the money. A quick reflection on the FA.

Changing rules. On Monday in future they can look upon footage from the

weekend as part of a panel and decide to give a player, if they

think a player has died or cheated, a match ban. At the moment is hard

to tell. So they can do that retrospectively. In the Mirror they

reckon a study has been done to show the five shapes of man. Apparently

42% of British chaps are the same as David Beckham, rectangle. Apparently

David Beckham has the rectangular torso. Then have the Triangle, the

Daniel Craig, the rumble -- romboid. Sort of level. The Triangle means

you are wider at the top, at the shoulders. Is this your natural

body? Yes, your natural body. The five types, rectangle, Triangle,

romboid, or in inverted triangle. Just the way you are.

On the subject of missing out on things. Air miles, did you know you

could put them in your will? No.

They die if you die, unless you've made specific provisions for them,

according to this story. Many people would think putting air miles in

your will is laughable, but it's a sensible thing to do because they

can be kept. Did you know that? I didn't know

that. I will be in touch with anybody I know who collect air

miles! Thank you very much. One of Britain's airports

is moving it's control tower around 100 miles away

from the actual runway. London City Airport is to become the

first in Britain to bandy birds eye view of the runway and use

technology to monitor planes remotely. -- ban its birds eye.

Modern airports are dynamic and fast flowing. Hundreds of pieces being

moved around every minute. And all of those movements must be

tightly choreographed This is London's City Airport

and that's just one of the 300 or so takeoffs and landings that

happen here every day. Until now, all of those flights

have been co-ordinated by a group of controllers who look

out of these windows here. But in future, those windows will be

replaced by these high definition Controllers won't just see

the airport, they'll be able The thing is, this digital control

tower is 120 miles away We've been shown this simulation,

but by 2019 controllers will be sitting here directing

traffic for real. Using pictures fed from a new camera

tower next to the runway. Unlike the old tower,

they can zoom in for a better view. They can also put radar data

onto the screen to track Critically, for safety,

the cameras can pick out rogue drones near the airport and light

the runway at night. It gives the controller more

information in terms of what they can see

and hear, how they can The awareness the controller gets is

all about being heads up, not down. Now, I know exactly

what you're thinking. The number one question I've been

asked by everybody I have told about this is, what if

the TV screens go down? The system has been

independently stress tested We have three defences in place

between the airport and the control centre, so if one

of those was to fail, If that fails,

there's another cable. They are all routed,

taking different routes, London City is convinced

the new operation will make it more The idea of a control tower

miles from the airport It is really quite challenging,

there are so many questions. I know very little about that sort

of thing, but it sounds scary. If I am on an aeroplane taking off, I

want the control tower to be right there.

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

Still to come this morning: If you're jetting off for the May

half term, have you had to pay more than last year?

We'll have some top tips to save money on that sunshine break.

Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

Hello, this is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Sally Nugent.

We'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment,

but also on Breakfast this morning - It was one of the most horrifying

cases of child sexual abuse in recent memory.

As the BBC drama based on the stories of the Rochdale

victims concludes, we'll speak to one of the real-life survivors

Also on Breakfast, they're fast, furious and draw huge crowds

but are mass video game events a sport?

They're being included in the 2022 Asian Games so could the Olympics be

And it's 50 years since Englebert Humperdinck's

He'll be on the sofa to tell us how the song still holds a special place

But now a summary of this morning's main news...

Brexit dominated the first televised leaders' debate,

which was held last night despite the absence of Theresa May

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood, who backed Remain in last year's

referendum, said Welsh interests must be protected during Brexit

We have been pretty much ignored since the referendum. Gibraltar has

had more attention than Wales has had. So it is vital we have a strong

team of Plaid Cymru MPs to advocate for our national interests and to

make sure that the Tories do not get away with an extreme except that

would cause serious harm for many of the people in many of our

communities right throughout the UK. American warplanes operating over

Syria have attacked a convoy carrying pro-government

militia forces. The US-led coalition said

it was moving towards a base, used by Western special forces

near the border with Iraq. Last month, the Americans fired 59

cruise missiles at a Syrian But Washington has insisted

its latest military action does not mean it is stepping up its role

in the Syrian war. The Japanese government has approved

plans to allow Emperor Akihito to step down - the first

abdication for two centuries. The cabinet has backed draft

legislation, which will now be sent The emperor, who's 83,

indicated last year his desire Instagram and Snapchat are the worst

social media platforms for young people's mental health

and wellbeing, according Almost 1500 people aged

14 to 24 were asked to rate sites on their impact

on anxiety, depression, The Royal Society for Public Health

said YouTube had the most positive impact on mental health,

followed by Twitter and Facebook. Rolf Harris will be released on bail

to appear in court next week. The former entertainer denies four

counts of indecently assaulting three teenagers. The jurors had been

told that he was jailed for other offences in 2014.

A BBC investigation has found flaws in the voice-recognition security

used by one of Britain's biggest banks.

HSBC's system analyses customers' voice patterns to allow them access

The bank says every person's voice is unique and that

But the Click technology programme has shown that it is possible

for someone to log into an account that's not their own.

Scientists searching for so-called miniature sea monsters

in the Pacific Ocean have released these amazing pictures.

They've sent camera probes up to four kilometres below sea level,

to capture images of some of the world's most elusive creatures.

It's part of a month-long exploration to assess how marine

life has adapted to life in the deep.

I would love to know how tiny these creatures are. They are quite scary.

They do always looked alien, don't they? Like from Doctor Who. The big

squid. Do you remember those? They live down there as well. They look

like a cross between a pig and a squid. They were cute. I remember

you mentioning that before. Was it a real thing? Yes. We found a picture,

remember? Let's talk about Harry Kane, shall we? That was way too

vague a link... It would have been a forced link, I think. Harry Kane is

an fire again. Harry Kane is in pole position

to become the Premier League's top scorer after bagging four

in Tottenham's 6-1 thrashing Spurs were already assured of second

place in the table - and Kane helped them

to their biggest ever away win He now has 26 for the season -

two clear of his nearest challengers I was delighted to get these girls

so it was a good moment. There has been built up during the week about

the golden boot race and I would like to have gotten a least one or

two today to put the pressure on so to get four is an amazing feeling.

Celtic equalled their record points tally in the Scottish Premiership,

thanks to a 5-0 win at Partick Thistle.

They're on 103 now - so even a draw against Hearts

on Sunday and Celtic will break the record for a 38-game season -

and they'll go unbeaten in the league for the whole term.

Any budding goalkeepers out there will now you can either be a hero or

a pantomime villain. Imagine how this goalkeeper feels. He sent the

ball into his own net to end the season long dream of his team and

sent at Blackpool to play Exeter. It's infuriating, isn't it,

seeing a player dive or feign injury Well English football will follow

Scotland's lead and introduce retrospective bans, under

a new offence of "successful The FA say incidents will be

reviewed by a panel of three and a unanimous decision

will result in a two-match ban. I think it's rubbish because what

about the lad that gets booked who did not die of? What will they do?

Ring technology in and we can look at it on the day. Bring a Symbian in

so we can put them in the sink in for ten minutes and return to the

feel. Stock paying these money to create rubbish situations in the

game. The outgoing Chief Executive

of the RFU, Ian Ritchie, says the England coach

doesn't have to be English. Ritchie helped appoint

Australian Eddie Jones to the role in 2015 - and he believes quality

should always be the overriding You need the best coach that you can

get and the most important thing is, friendly, whether he be Kiwi,

Australian or Martian, you need the best coach that you can get because

what happens is that success on the pitch out here with the England team

has an undoubted impact on 8-year-olds playing rugby on Sunday

morning and you want that to be successful. You want it to be

vibrant. Johanna Konta's run

at the Italian Open is over, after she lost to Venus Williams

in Rome yesterday. The British number one

recovered from a set down against the seven-time

grand slam champion, The Lawn Tennis Association admits

that not everyone will agree with their decision to give Maria

Sharapova a wildcard for the classic in Birmingham in the run-up to

Wimbledon. They said they did not make the decision lightly. Sharapova

has returned from a 15 month doping ban and is trying to work her way

back up the world rankings. Birmingham would be a chance for her

to take a step on the road to try and get into Wimbledon. Obviously

she still has the talent, she has been on a good run after coming back

from her ban. It was a controversial decision. Quite tricky, really. We

were speaking about teeny tiny scary sea creatures, weren't we? Let's

multiply that by, I don't know, 100, and go to match who has the weather

for us. He is there with some giant plastic

dinosaurs. Good morning. Good morning. You do not often see the

botanical gardens looking like this, do you? Animated dinosaurs, this one

just beside me. This is... Let me get this right... AAE... I forgot it

already. Its name means armoured head and it is among the animated

dinosaurs here, on a tour around the UK. Trust me, when they get into

gear they make a lot of noise as you can hear. Causing a bit of noise

this morning as the rain dripping down. If we have a look at the

forecast for this morning across the UK in it is one which will contain

rain for some of us. Not everywhere, however. Start strike Scotland this

morning with frost around. There is a sunshine is what to do with it.

Cloud over eastern areas. To the use of the Pennines, outbreaks of rain

will continue off in Yorkshire. A damp start through the Midlands. The

rain will be light after heavy bursts in the night. Things will

gradually brighten up. In the south-west and Wales this is where

we have sunshine at the moment. A little bit of frost as well. There

could be an odd shower but most places starting dry. Northern

Ireland has some sunshine and a little bit of frost around as well.

Wind is like for many at the moment that there is a breeze blowing

across eastern counties. That will continue through the day with

outbreaks pushing into Scotland. An extensive mist and low cloud to go

with it. Sunshine elsewhere, yes, but heavy and potential thundery

showers in the afternoon. Some of those showers could be on the nasty

side. In between no showers, temperatures will reach around 18 or

19 degrees. Tonight, the rain becomes confined to parts of

Scotland, and is tonight to come here with outbreaks of rain. Clear

skies elsewhere, a couple of showers and a fine start for many on

Saturday, start with claggy outbreaks, in the northern half of

Scotland later on, elsewhere in China showers will take through the

rest of the day. If the showers through the southern and western

coasts. Into Sunday that looks like a dry day by and large. We will have

rain in Northern Ireland and western parts of Scotland. But we will start

to see a lot of sunshine develop across the southern and eastern

areas. On Sunday looks at the driest weather will be across England and

east of Scotland and will see wind coming from the south on Sunday it

will start to feel a little bit warmer as well. But on Sunday could

reach around 20 degrees. Essentially for today, rain across the east,

sunshine and showers elsewhere. Warmer and drier for many by Sunday.

That is how it looks. I need to try and remember the names of my

dinosaurs. I will hanker back now. If somebody just started watching

your weather forecast halfway through they would have thought you

were having a loud tummy rumble because of all the dinosaur roaring.

At this time of morning, that certainly is possible. Go and have

your breakfast. Thank you. Growing numbers of banks are using

voice recognition for customers to access their accounts. In theory you

get a high degree of security without having to remember a PIN

number. That there is questions this morning about whether or not the

system is as safe as the banks claim. We speak to Dan Simmons from

Leak. Can you explain to us, what your trial showed.

What happened? I decided to get my nonidentical twin brother to try to

copy my voice and break into my bank account. My real bank account with

HSBC. He needed my account number and my short code and date of birth.

He knows that, of course, but those are not regarded as secure

information. Bits of information to get in. So with those bits of

information all he had to do was say my voice is my password fairly

similar to how I might say it and on the eighth attempt of trying he

managed to break in. Well... I don't think we can hear your two voices

but you tell me - how similar are your voices? That is the first thing

people want to know. We are kind of alike but on the day we did it he

had a nightmare overnight and did not sleep, nothing like that. Some

people will wake up this morning feeling exactly the same when you

through those creaky and you are uncertain. We did not think this

would work, because of that. We do not sound too alike and we have had

experts saying any system should be itself apart regardless. This has

been trumpeted as a secure system but in what is a low-tech trial, he

seemed were broken in. It is important to say that in the

majority of cases biotechnology and biometrics which measures something

about what you are which is something like your fingerprint or

your voice, for example, is very secure. But it is not infallible.

And when we hear reports of a bank saying that we should rely on this

and it was secure. In this counter was the only factor we really needed

to get in. When it does fail, that is serious. When we speak about

issues to do with security, we think about things like people stealing

identities and social media, issues around that. What about the notion

of people cloning voices? What about that becoming a legitimate

criminal... Well, as a legitimate, you know, a criminal activity. That

could be possible. Google are looking into this. Adobe are looking

into it. We spoke to a company called Firebird in Canada who are

all looking at mimicking voices and there is some concern that they

could get so good, especially with artificial intelligence, this whole

biometric system could be fooled a lot more in future. And, remember,

you change your password of something like this happens. You

cannot change your voice. I am looking at the statement from the

bank and it was their system, hate SBC, they say that the safety and

security of their account is most important. Voice recognition is a

secure method for our companies -- customers. Many companies using

this? This is the way will go, regardless of the flaws that appear?

It about managing risk, isn't it? How often does it happen and can

they manage it. They take the liability of someone goes wrong you

might say that these sort of OK. As a privacy issue there, I think there

is a protection issue, to be fair. Berkeley is and another bank in this

country are both using voice biometrics. A different system, but

they do use it. Citibank in the United States uses it. Over 1

million customers there. It is coming, if you do not have already,

along with a of other biometric test. The risk at the moment is on

the side of the bank as far as money is concerned. I could not withdraw

money out, by the way, we could not do that in a test but that may be

coming further down the line in future. So there are a few initial

warning signs that we have discovered with this investigation

we did for our technology show. And you can see more

on this on Click, here on Breakfast

tomorrow at 6:50am. Half term is approaching

and if you are one of the families But the cost of doing

so is creeping up. We've spoken a lot about prices

going up generally, but this holidays and little bit faster than

everything else. We spoke about inflation, if you look at the cost

of a family holiday last year competed this month costs are up

about 8%, about ?280 on average. What's going on?

Zoe Dawes is a travel expert and joins me now.

M bank say it is about the weak pound. Is it just that? It is, but

there's a general situation in the world where people are changing

their holiday plans, so certain places have become less popular and

others therefore become more popular. Uncertainty about Brexit.

So a condonation of a lot of things that has made this happen. So the

areas that are becoming more popular, for whatever reason,

whether terrorism or exchange rates, are the more popular areas more

expensive? Yes. Even places like, for instance, Spain, Turkey is

becoming less so, so popular resorts like Spain and Greece have gone up.

But also some of the resorts are getting really expensive, so it's

about searching out lesser-known places. We are hearing a lot

about... We know wages aren't going up as quickly as prices. Is that

having an effect on where people are deciding to go on holiday as well?

Yes. I mean, the holidaymaker is becoming more discerning and they

will have to because of the way prices are rocketing. It isn't just

8%, I had a look at something recently where there was one

particular holiday, I think to the US, it was over half term and it was

800% more than it had been out of season. So it is the combination of

the two. On that, is there anything about it being half term, are they

still putting up prices even during that period? Yes. As any parent out

there knows, I knew when my son was in school, they've got you over a

barrel because it's a market led thing. Definitely more expensive.

That doesn't seem to be easing off either. Thank you very much. There

you go, prices up pretty much a percent at least. 800% compared to

out of term time. -- 8%. The big issue for parents.

It doesn't seem to be budging. Thanks very much.

Competitive computer gaming, or esports, has rocketed

And as audiences increase, so do calls for it to be included

in world-wide sporting events such as the Olympics.

This weekend some of the worlds best gamers

are gathering at the O2 in London for the Vainglory Spring

Championships, one of the biggest events in the calendar.

You look like you are having too much fun already!

Good morning. I was pretty good at Pacman when I was a kid, what I'm

not sure about Vainglory. The gaming industry is huge, worth billions of

pounds, but did you know that people will gather places like this,

thousands of people, to watch people playing games? As I say, competitive

gaming, or at eSports, to give it its umbrella term, is now an

absolutely huge deal. This weekend at the O2, the Vainglory

Championships. People are playing from their own living rooms. I met

up with one team as they prepare to do battle themselves.

Eyes, fingers, brains. Primed and approaching peak condition. We've

been practising a lot. Team Eminem feature some of the UK's top

gainers, who are living together in a house for one month, training

eight hours a day. How is it going? Going good. This boot Camp will

prepare them for the League of Legends European Championship. There

is also going through your games and video analysis, so you can point out

where errors are at something you could work on, where you could have

done the game better. We are just trying to use this pressure instead.

Can I briefly interrupts? What are you talking about? It sounds a

gobbledygook. We are talking about that kind of level that the average

person would see and feel in again. League of Legends is a fantasy

battle game. This is a recording of a recent team victory. I, however,

are not very good. I think I died again. You died again. The

tournament will see teams across Europe compete online. Like many

eSport competitions, many fans are expected to just log on and watch.

Some people don't want to play the game, they just want to watch

others. Like mainstream sports, I love watching cricket. I am not much

of a cricket player. It is ageing how it has grown. It will end

rivalling mainstream sports! Say it is already doing just that. Life

eSport tournaments come up like this one in Poland, attract thousands of

fans. At London's O2, teams from the US and Europe will compete for this

trophy and more than ?100,000 in prize money. The game they will be

playing, Vainglory. It is insanely pressurised. Jasmine is a tournament

referee, taking short play is fair and rules are enforced. It is

definitely a sport. It might not a like physically taxing or new, but

mentally, for you to work as a team, for you to train for hours and hours

on end, reaction speeds and all of this, these are all elements that

you find in actual sports. What an incredible fight coming in! I kindly

to see what they will do next. These commentators travel the world to

events like this. He can't find it! Some of the games are so complicated

different to what usually expect, you need people to be able to

translate that. The impact and growth of eSports is getting bigger

and bigger. And it is thought more than 300

million people across the world regularly watch or play eSports and

that number is expected to double by 2020. A huge deal. James, you have

organised this event. How big is eSports now? As you say, since about

2020 we are finding the participation and viewership is

getting large. We go from national tournaments of about 250,000 the

finals, all the way up to 47 million over a weekend. It is really getting

a place in the industry. This weekend you've got teams from

America and Europe competing in Vainglory, the game I have here. How

does the UK compared to those teams? We are a little bit behind. Although

we have a huge player base, the UK market is the second-largest gaming

market in Europe, but unfortunately the professionalism is just not

there yet. We are doing our best to get that sorted. We have been

running for five years already in the UK and we are getting at him now

that can potentially qualify into one of the really big leagues. Will

people be playing this game, because it is mobile, and it will be

projected on the big screens, so the crowds can just watch people playing

a game. Isn't that odd? Absolutely not. This is the cream of those

players. The moves, the way they played, the strategy is all Supre --

super interesting. A lot of people have this conundrum about screen

time, especially if they have kids. Should they be looking at their

phones playing games. You are making this harder for parents? There is

that legacy, I suppose. But I work in an office and I probably look at

a screen even more than a game. So it is part of everyday life and we

have more than one screen in our lives. And some of these games are

making billions of pounds a year in prize money and sponsorship.

Absolutely. The top players are in multimillions in terms of revenue,

not just from prize money but also they stream online. They are a

personality, a celebrity. A fascinating world. Thank you. I am

going to keep practising. I convinced my parents when I was

younger that I would be allowed to play video games. They said to get

away from the screen. If I kept going I could have been rich!

We will be back with Tim later. Isn't it extraordinary? Those guys

are together in a house one month to practise.

They need to get out of that occasionally.

It can't be good for them! It could be, if their fortunes are being

made! We have the leader of the Liberal

Democrats coming up, at about 7:10am. Let us know if there is any

particular question you want us to ask, especially after the leader's

debate last night. Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are. I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom Plenty more on our website

at the usual address. Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Charlie Stayt and Sally Nugent. Brexit dominates the first big TV

debate of the election campaign. Leaders of five parties -

but not Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn - go head to head

for the debate on ITV. This morning we have the first

of our leaders' interviews with Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron

on the Breakfast sofa. Thousands of police officers

across the UK have not had up-to-date background checks

to ensure they are suitable to the final episode of the three

girls. We will discuss some of the issues it raised and speak to the

prosecutor who featured in the drama.

The first UK airport to replace its control tower

overlooking the runway, with a virtual centre

Is it better to buy a brand new home or do they they not make them

A row is brewing about which is better made -

And in sport, Leicester are given a caning.

The outgoing champions are hit for six by Tottenham,

as Harry Kane scores four, and is now favourite to finish

the season as the premier league's top scorer,

And Matt's out with the dinosaurs in Birmingham

I certainly am. From Birmingham botanical gardens and the weekend

forecast its better for many or you view after a wet day today. A bit

warmer by Sunday. This little fellow, not too impressed with the

forecast but he is certainly not happy at all. I will have the

details in 15 minutes. Brexit dominated the televised

leaders' debate, which was held last night despite the absence

of Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn. The ITV event saw little

disagreement between the Lib Dems, Green Party, Plaid Cymru and SNP

as they repeatedly clashed Our political correspondent

Tom Symonds reports. Four support Britain

remaining in the EU. And in the absence of Theresa May

and Jeremy Corbyn, they turned on the one leader who did not,

Paul Nuttall, attacking his support for a hard Brexit and his tough

line on immigration. Theresa May not have the guts to be

here tonight but her spokesman in the form of Paul Nuttall

seems to be here tonight. I know immigration is a difficult

topic for politicians. When we speak about European

migrants, we talk about people who work in the National

Health Service, whose The Ukip leader said

Brexit would offer Britain enormous trade opportunities

and controlling immigration One of the reasons that wages have

stagnated in recent years and had probably stagnated since about 2004

is because of immigration levels. We have an oversupply

of labour in this country. The leader of the Greens said

there was no question for which the answer from Ukip

was not immigration. Not only did they give the Tories

a blank cheque for the hard Brexit they gave them to lift to the bank

and help them to cash it in. The Liberal Democrats are offering

a second vote on whether Britain Their leader believes it is better

that people decide than Theresa May. She is putting together a plan

which appeases Paul Nuttalls and Nigel Farages that damages

the future of our children. That is why you should

have the final say on Brexit. The leader of Plaid Cymru

was concerned that restrictions on trade post-Brexit could harm

Wales's aerospace companies 6500 well-paid jobs

in Wales that you are Twice under fire, Paul Nuttall

confused the names of his tormentor. Audience members asked how

the leaders would invest in schools, hospitals and social care

in the future of younger people. There was general agreement -

money would need to be found. When you get Paul Nuttall

insistint there would be a financial benefit

to Britain leaving the EU this A reference to the infamous battle

bus and the promise of ?350 million Will that bus come driving

past at any minute? Brexit continues to dominate this

unexpected election race. We're joined now by our political

correspondent Eleanor Garnier. The leaders' debate was last night,

but the front pages are all There was a running joke that Ukip

were there to represent the Conservative Party but the absence

of Theresa May in Jeremy Corbyn did loom large. That is right. That is

why today's papers and most of the gender and attention is still

focused on the Tory manifesto which was launched by Theresa May in

Halifax yesterday. A few things stand out from the manifesto. Yes

that was the positioning by Theresa May, firmly putting the Conservative

Party across the centre. We have had distinctive agenda. We saw more

protections for working families, for those in the workplace. We saw a

cap on energy prices, all aimed at lower income families. Poorer

families as well, paying for social care with the means test threshold

that the Tories wish to increase to ?100,000. They ditched the tax on

the pensions lock and pulled back on the Winter fuel payment. This was a

clear move away from the era of David Cameron and George Osborne.

That positioning is also risky. Pulling back some of the benefits

for pensioners could be difficult and Theresa May and her team now

that they will be aware of the danger of potentially alienating

some traditional Tory voters. That is what Labour are focusing on this

morning. They say this is the Conservative Party returning to

become the nasty party. They say 10 million pensioners could be hit and

lose their winter fuel payments as a result of the changes that Theresa

May wants to bring in. Labour called it a shameful attack on older

people. The Tories will say they have yet to work out the details of

how the means testing on the Winter fuel allowance will work and as yet

do not know how many people will be affected. A reminder our first

leader interviews kick off today. We'll be speaking to Lib Dem leader

Tim Farron in about five minutes and SNP leader Nicola

Sturgeon after eight. Many of you have been sending us

questions for both of them. Please do keep talking to us. We have some

wonderful questions coming in. Thousands of police officers

across the UK have not had up-to-date background checks to

ensure they are suitable to serve. under a Freedom of information

request show that 90% of officers in one force have not been properly

vetted. In 2012, the Association of Chief

police officers recommended a thorough background vetting for all

police officers and community support officers. It is a process

that takes several months and checks on all aspects of the person's

background. It is designed to ensure that nobody unsuitable is employed.

Peter Bunyan was a port officer, jailed for misconduct in 2013 after

using the police database to contact women. An investigation by the

Independent police complaints commission found he would have been

rejected if he had undergone proper vetting. The Devon and Cornwall

police forces still has 100 frontline staff who are yet to be

checked according to the latest guidelines. The BBC made a Freedom

of information request, asking other forces are what the situation in the

area was. It found that a total of almost 14,000 police officers had

yet to undergo thorough checks. In Northumbria, almost nine from ten

police officers, around 3000 people, had yet to be properly vetted. The

force said a retrospective programme of vetting was about to start. Her

Majesty 's Inspector of Constabulary said forces needed to address this

matter urgently, while the police Federation, which represents

rank-and-file officers, said it was disappointed to see such a huge

backlog. Instagram and Snapchat are the worst

social media platforms for young people's mental health

and wellbeing, according Almost 1,500 people aged

14 to 24 were asked to rate sites on their impact

on anxiety, depression, The Royal Society for Public Health

said YouTube had the most positive impact on mental health,

followed by Twitter and Facebook. A BBC investigation has found flaws

in HSBC's biometric bank security. Its Voice ID system recognises

customers' speech patterns to grant HSBC says every person's

voice is unique and that But the Click technology programme

has shown that it is possible for someone to log into an account

that's not their own. Passwords, key fobs and apps have

all been used to protect us. But over the last year,

a new gold standard in security has Like fingerprints, the human voice

is unique to each of us and HSBC, along with other banks,

has started using the voice But a simple experiment

with my nonidentical twin My financial details

and the ability to Under no circumstances

should two different people be able to access the same

bank account with voice biometric Every voice is unique but it is up

to the system to differentiate between voices and it has not

done so in this case. Unlike a password,

a voice is public. And experts worry that artificial

intelligence software can synthesise voices so well that it would soon be

able to clone a voice from a sample A tool which could make

the hacker's job much In response to our terms

to the bank said... Most experts agree that by making

security more personal, But if your voice can be copied,

unlike passwords... it may be difficult

to get a new one. We have your weekend whether in

about ten minutes time. The time now is 11 minutes past seven. This time

in three weeks we should have result from the general election as it

edges coats. We will speak to all the party leaders here on Breakfast.

First up we have Tim Farren from the Liberal Democrats. Have you

recovered from last night? It was a late night last night. It was good

fun and this was a period of time where you do not have time for rest

but there is plenty of time for that afterwards. Quickly looking through

the papers this morning, read and if you can see these, the front page of

the Telegraph, Theresa May is on the front. On the front page of the

Times, on the Mirror, and the mail, are you a little bit disappointed

that what you were talking about last night did not make enough

impact to make it onto the front page today? I thought the debate

went well last night and I thought that the most obvious thing was the

fact that neither Jeremy Corbyn nor Theresa May goes to be there which

is an insult to everybody out there who will cast a vote in a few days

time. It is also a reminder, however, Theresa May approaches his

election as if she has already won, she is taking everybody for example.

You wouldn't decide to not turn up to a debate if you thought that you

had any respect for those people who will cast a vote. The Conservative

manifesto came out yesterday and it was some things. People should think

very hard about giving a blank cheque to the Tory party, not less

the new tax, an enormous hit on people, for people who have

dementia. The impact on schools, taking away free school meals for

infant schoolchildren, that is heartless and cruel. The kind of

thing that a party does if they think they will win anyway. It is

important that we hold them to account. Doesn't the tax reduction

only apply to people being cared for in their own home? People who go

into homes have to pay that anywhere you, it means everybody gets hit.

What the Liberal Democrats wish to do is set a cap of ?72,000 above

which the State would help you. What Theresa May is doing is making sure

that if you get dementia, you will lose your house. You will have

nothing to pass on. And that seems to me... It is not fair. For the

first time your home is there to be cashed in if you need help, just in

your own home. It sounds grim but if you die of a heart attack then you

have nothing to pay. But if you spend five or ten years or more

living with dementia and needing care at home you will be clobbered

by the Conservatives. It is utterly heartless and the actions of a party

that since it has already won the election and does not need to do

anything else. Here we are this morning, the morning after the

debate and we are talking about the Tory manifesto. Let's talk about

some things they spoke about yesterday. You are right. The papers

are picked up this morning on some of the policy in the manifesto of

that are really quite surprising to many people, things like the Winter

fuel allowance and a triple lock on pensions. Older people, perhaps, you

know, the core of the Conservative heartland, if you like, who will be

affected by these Tory policies. What will the Liberal Democrats

offer? First of all, we will keep the triple lock. That was our policy

when we were in Parliament. Margaret thatcher got rid of the upgrading of

pensions in the mid-19 80s and took the Lib Dems in Howard put that

right. And now, nearly two years afterwards, the Conservatives have

gone back to type and are hitting pensioners, particularly the Polaris

ones. All of this is based upon government and the Conservatives

realising that will have less money to spend. Their own figures now show

that they will have ?15 billion a year worse off because of their

extreme version of except that they had chosen because Jeremy Corbyn

back in. The key thing for us in this election is to say that one at

once the British people voted to leave the EU, they did not vote for

this new deal cars we do not know what it is. We believe the British

people should have the final say on this and if you do not like the deal

that to revisit may receive, we have the right to reject it and to remain

in the European Union. The people hit by the dementia tax are poor and

middle income people who are fortunate enough to have their own

home. With spoken about that... Will be people from poorer backgrounds.

What about the Winter fuel allowance? The Liberal Democrats

have called for that to be means tested. We believe that's right. The

point is, you look at free school meals, schoolchildren are getting

free school meals any more. Getting breakfast instead. They will save

?650 million. There will be no additional support for that.

Remember, primary schools around the country have invested millions of

pounds in new kitchens and support because of the Liberal Democrat plan

and they are up for that. The massive majority of children don't

go in for breakfast club. This is a conservative line to take food out

of the mouths of children. Let's pause that thought and talk about

Brexit. Most people in this country voted for Brexit. You seem to be

taking a little bit of a gamble at the moment, hoping that those

people, who either didn't vote or who were Remainers, will come

onboard with you now. But haven't we missed the boat, because Brexit is

happening? It isn't a gamble, the gamble is Theresa May gambling with

our children's future. As things stand at the moment you, me, Theresa

May, nobody knows what the outcome is going to be. Will we be in a

single market or outside the market where we sell half of our goods to?

What kind of negotiating position would any government be in if they

go to the EU saying, you see what you can offer us. This is what we

would like and we will all vote again. You would get no deal. What

will happen at the end of this is someone will sign off on the deal.

Either it will be the politicians or the public. I trust the people. I

don't think it is right that our children will have to live with this

for decades and it should be forced upon all of us without anyone having

the finals day. If Theresa May fails to get a good deal, it is right that

the British people should be able to reject it and remain. Pauline says,

can you please ask him why you keep banging on about Brexit affecting

our children and grandchildren, as though those of us who can't wait to

leave the EU don't care? We do and that's why we voted to leave. Three

quarters of the people voted on an extreme version of Brexit that we

survey has chosen. Not just Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn and his ministers

voted for the extreme version of Brexit. I respect people leaving and

voting to leave, it won the referendum narrowly, that's the

direction Theresa May is going on, what she has no mandate for is to

take us out of the single market and give us an extreme Brexit. If we had

bought a house, we wouldn't hand of the money before being given the

keys and being told where the house was. Surely any sensible situation

would have the right to reject that. Cannabis currently gets a fine of

?90. You talk about children getting free school meals. Would you be

happy for your children to go up in a world where cannabis is freely

available? As a father, a principal motivation in all this, and I don't

think drugs are a good thing, they damage societies and people... You

want to legalise it. Let's look at things to make society better. The

lid, Lib Dems looked at serving chief constables and looking at

making things better. -- the lid ends. The evidence is that if you

separate cannabis from harder drugs then you protect people and the

principal aim in all of this is to protect the vulnerable and make sure

criminal gangs have control taken back off them because they are the

people exploiting us at the moment. Do you think now people know who you

are and to know your name? They know which box to tick? That's a good

question. In the local elections we have the biggest increase in vote

share. A membership nearly doubled in the last few weeks. The local

elections were great for the Liberal Democrats. It looks as though the

Conservatives are heading towards a landslide, that's why Theresa May

called the election, and there needs to be a decent opposition. Everybody

knows Jeremy Corbyn won't be the next government, so people need to

stand up for a Britain that has a good future.

A reminder, after 8am Nicola Sturgeon will be joining us on the

sofa. Over to the weather. You are chasing dinosaurs this morning!

Yes, IME and every child and some adult's fantasy this morning! -- I"m

in. This is a stag do Soros. There are 30 animatronic dinosaurs here

throughout the coming weeks. Part of the Jurassic Kingdom exhibition.

They are noisy once they get up and running. The tour's round the

country over the next few months. It is raining in Birmingham and it

really is raining for some of you this morning, especially around the

eastern half of the country. A bit brighter weather around in the west.

The chilly start, with some frost around. But the best of the sunshine

will be across western parts of Scotland. Down in the north-west

England we have a bit of brightness around this morning. East of the

Pennines and across eastern England, and Birmingham, it is grey and

cloudy and wet. The heaviest rain in north-east England. The rain turning

lighter and patchier towards the south and east. Showers gather

later. Towards the west Midlands and towards south-west England and Wales

there will be the chance of sunshine. Frost on the grass in

parts of south-west England and Wales. Temperatures quickly on the

rise. A few showers gather later. The same to Northern Ireland. Frosty

start for a few. While we have the sunshine and dry weather to start

the day, there will be showers pushing on later. Let's look at the

details for the day across the UK. We have the cloudy as the weather in

east. It will be raining on a doctor is a day in north-east England and

eventually the eastern parts of Scotland. A lot of grey, misty, low

cloud. To the west and south of England as well as Wales, and

eventually western Scotland, we have a bit of sunshine. We have a few

showers developing. Some of them will be heavy and sundry in the

afternoon. Tonight, most of the showers will fade from England and

Wales and Northern Ireland. Across Scotland, not as cold tonight.

Patchy rain and drizzle into the start of Saturday morning.

Elsewhere, clearer skies. Temperatures into single figures.

3-4 Celsius in the Royal Park of England and Wales. We start the

weekend cool in southern parts of the UK. -- rural parts of England.

The story of sunshine to begin with. Then heavy and thundery showers

later. Some of the missing the showers altogether. In Scotland,

after a cloudy start, the wettest weather confined to northern areas.

Even here we could have heavy showers to end the day. Temperatures

on Saturday afternoon 18- 19 in southern and western areas. Just

into double figures further north. In the Sunday it will be a dry day

across the board. The exception will be Northern Ireland and western

Scotland. The bit of rain around. Especially in the morning. Sunniest

of the south and east on Sunday. With winds coming from south,

temperatures will be on the rise little bit. We could have highs into

the low 20s in some parts of south-east England and east Anglia.

That's how the weekend forecast is looking. We will give this little

fella a morning coffee! Don't give it coffee! That's the

worst thing you can do. Don't make it angry! We've all been there.

One of Britain's airports is moving it's control tower -

around 100 miles away from the actual runway.

London City Airport is to become the first in Britain

to abandon its birds-eye view of the runway

and use digital technology to monitor planes remotely.

They say it will make managing the planes safer and more efficient.

Our transport correspondent Richard Westcott has been given

Modern airports are dynamic, fast flowing.

Hundreds of pieces being moved around every minute.

And all of those movements must be tightly choreographed

This is London's City Airport and that's just one of the 300

or so takeoffs and landings that happen here every day.

Until now, all of those flights have been co-ordinated

by a group of controllers who look out of these windows here.

But in the future, those windows will be replaced by these high

Controllers won't just see the airport, they'll be able

The thing is, this digital control tower is 120 miles away

We've been shown this simulation, but by 2019 controllers will be

sitting here directing traffic for real

using pictures fed from a new camera tower next to the runway.

Unlike the old tower, they can zoom in for a better view.

They can also put radar data onto the screen to track

Critically, for safety, the cameras can pick out rogue

drones near the airport and light the runway at night.

Because I'm used to being at an airport, it gives

the controller more information in terms

of what they can see and hear, how they can

The awareness the controller gets is all about being heads

The tower controller is paid to look out the window,

Now, I know exactly what you're thinking.

The number one question I've been asked by everybody I have told

about this is, what if the TV screens go down?

So the system has been independently stress tested

We have three cables in place between the airport and the control

centre, so if one of those was to fail,

In the event that that fails, there's another cable.

And they are all routed, taking different routes

London City is convinced the new operation will make it more

The idea of a control tower miles from the airport

That's what you want, someone with binoculars.

Even with all of the technology, and you want one person with eyes on it.

But the technology is making extraordinary advances.

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

I'm back with the latest from the BBC London newsroom

Hello, this is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Sally Nugent.

Leaving the EU dominated the first televised leaders debate which was

held last night. Despite the ad dozens of Theresa May and Jeremy

Corbyn. The leader of the Green party said an opportunity had been

missed for opposition parties to come together and challenge Tory

plans for a hard Brexit. Not only did Labour give them, the Tories, a

blank cheque for a hard Brexit that they driven to the bank and help

them cash it in. But if they could have worked with ours... Not with

Ukip, but with others... We could have seriously opposed this

catastrophic Brexit. Thousands of police officers across the UK have

not had up-to-date background checks to ensure they are suitable to

server. BBC analysis of figures obtained showed that 90% of officers

in one force, Northumbria police, have not been properly vetted. They

say a planned programme of retrospective vetting is due to

start. The process checks on finances and employment histories

were searches for convictions. Instagram and Snapchat are the worst

social media platforms for young people's mental health

and wellbeing, according Almost 1500 people aged

14 to 24 were asked to rate sites on their impact

on anxiety, depression, The Royal Society for Public Health

said YouTube had the most positive impact on mental health,

followed by Twitter and Facebook. Rolf Harris will be released on bail

to appear in court next week. The former entertainer denies four

counts of indecently assaulting three teenagers. The jurors had been

told that he was jailed for other A BBC investigation has found flaws

in the voice-recognition security used by one of Britain's

biggest banks. HSBC's system analyses customers'

voice patterns to allow them access The bank says every person's

voice is unique and that But the Click technology programme

has shown that it is possible for someone to log into an account

that's not their own. Scientists searching for so-called

miniature sea monsters in the Pacific Ocean have released

these amazing pictures. They've sent camera probes up

to four kilometres below sea level, to capture images of some of

the world's most elusive creatures. That one looks like Jaws. These

creatures, I think, a teeny tiny. They are quite scary looking.

It's part of a month-long exploration to assess how marine

life has adapted to life in the deep.

Some of them look a little bit like alien from the Alien films. Do you

know anything about this? No, not really. But tomorrow morning...

Tomorrow on Breakfast I'm tackling my own creatures of the deep,

vicious ones that tackle you are under the water. Water polo tomorrow

in sport. What happens under the water stays under the water. But for

now, it is all about Harry Kane. Harry Kane is in pole position

to become the Premier League's top scorer after bagging four

in Tottenham's 6-1 thrashing Spurs were already assured of second

place in the table - and Kane helped them

to their biggest ever away win He now has 26 for the season -

two clear of his nearest challengers I was delighted to get these girls

so it was a good moment. There has been built up during the week about

the golden boot race and I would like to have gotten a least one or

two today to put the pressure on so Celtic equalled their record points

tally in the Scottish Premiership, thanks to a 5-0 win

at Partick Thistle. They're on 103 now -

so even a draw against Hearts on Sunday and Celtic will break

the record for a 38-game season - and they'll go unbeaten

in the league for the whole term. Any budding goalkeepers out

there will know you can either be a pantomime villain. Imagine how

this goalkeeper feels. He sent the ball into his own net to end the

season long dream of his team and His team and to clear the ball off

the line but more got the final touch.

Well English football will follow Scotland's lead and introduce

retrospective bans, under a new offence of "successful

The FA say incidents will be reviewed by a panel of three

and a unanimous decision will result in a two-match ban.

I think it's rubbish because what about the lad that gets booked who

Bring a sin bin in so we can put them in the sink

Bring a sin bin in so we can put them in the sin bin

for ten minutes and return to the feel. Stock paying these money to

create rubbish situations in the game.

Johanna Konta's run at the Italian Open is over,

after she lost to Venus Williams in Rome yesterday.

The British number one recovered from a set down

against the seven-time grand slam champion,

And finally, the perils of being a sports reporter when a team wishes

to celebrate. Here is a presenter trying to interview a team who have

just won a league title for the first time in 16 years. They pour

champagne on the poor journalist who tries to carry on. Even the camera

person does not escape. And look at this, the reporter finds himself

under an ice bucket but this chapter is not know he is beaten. He still

tries to carry on with the interview. A second ice bucket comes

down on his head rendering him speechless. He would probably like

to protest and swear at those players but it is meant in good

sport. Oh, that poor guy. It reminds me of Alan Partridge. I can't talk.

My tie was once cut in celebration in my trousers removed in the

dressing room. That is cracking. It makes me fearful of the World Cup in

Russia next year. Such exuberant celebrations. Thank you very much

for that. Just a reminder for you, we are interviewing all of the party

leaders on Breakfast in the run-up to the general election and Nicola

Sturgeon will be with us after eight o'clock this morning. Of course,

following last's leaders debate in the absence of both the Tory leader

and the Labour leader, we will discuss that we will be speaking to

Nicola Sturgeon and later on. If you have questions you would like us to

address to her, please let us know this morning. And before that, we

have the weather from Matt was chasing dinosaurs in Birmingham.

Good morning. Good morning to you. It is not often you have the sound

of 30 animated dinosaurs roaring around here in the Birmingham

botanical Gardens. It is an unbelievable sight, part of the

Jurassic Kingdom exhibition which begins here tomorrow and runs the a

few weeks. And then it spread across other parts of the UK. This angry

fellow behind me is a creature that used to roam in what is now North

America around 75 million years ago. I think any child would be happy to

come and see some of these in action. Anyway... He is about as

happy with the weather this morning as I am. It is a wet start here in

Birmingham and there is some rain around for a few of us this morning,

particularly across the east of the country but it does not rain

everywhere. Not everyone will get wet today. The turnaround to begin

with across much of Scotland after it being Chilean places on a frosty

start. Reasonably dry with a bright start in north-west England but if

the Pennines down across northern England it is great, damp and misty.

Heaviest rain will be around north-east England but it starts to

ease off during the morning across parts of the Midlands and East

Anglia. To the south-west through as well this is where we have, again,

sometimes with a view to start the day but it frost on the grass that

will melt away at the. Utter Bridger is on the rise, gentle winds across

many western areas. As a start but a frosty start for some of you as

well. An east-west split to start with and that rolled so must the

day. Staying where across the north-east

of England for Yorkshire southwards we should see the brightened through

the afternoon. There will be showers across southern and western areas

into the second half of the day and some may be heavy and thundery. Not

everyone will see them, around the coast will stay dry and fine. In the

sunshine with light winds it will feel quite nice. A cool breeze

continues to blow across north-east England and eastern parts of

Scotland. Into this evening and overnight the showers should

gradually fade away for many. There are a few on the go especially in

Scotland. This is where we will see the cloud become expensive with

patchy rain and drizzle as Wallace mist dinners over the hills. It is

not quite as cold as last night to take this into Saturday morning but

a little bit chilly elsewhere. In some rural parts of England and

Wales in particular it could get down to three or four degrees as we

head into Saturday morning. For Saturday we have sunshine and

showers around through the country across England and Wales and

Northern Ireland in particular. Heavy and thundery. Across Scotland

it will be cloudy through the day, particularly in northern areas. The

list here with temperatures into the high teens elsewhere. Sunday by and

large across the UK looking dry and warm as well. Rain across parts of

Northern Ireland and western Scotland, at times during the

morning. That is confined to the north-west of Scotland later on.

Most of you will have a dry in the sunshine when you get it weakens it

averages in the high teens and low 20s. Some showers around this

weekend by turning dry and warm into Sunday. It is very much, Matt. Time

now is jammed 741. The BBC drama based on the Rochedale child sexual

case concluded last night. The programme has been incredible and

praised Britain's lynching portrayal of what the victims themselves went

through and has reopened questions about how the legal system actually

deals with young people in the sort of cases. We will discuss it in a

moment with the former chief Crown prosecutor for the north-west. She

played a significant part in charging the men involved and how

that was evicted in the drama. A grinning gang survivor is also with

us this morning. We will chat in a moment but first let's look at last

night 's episode. Why did not the CPS prosecute this case in 2008 when

Holly first went to the police? At that time it was considered that

there was an unrealistic prospect of conviction. What changed? Key

evidence used in this trial you had in 2008. The perpetrators were

allowed to continue offending screen other two years. Why did the sepia

stopped the case? Is their initial around the ethnicity of the

perpetrators? There was an issue around the witness, not the

perpetrators. What happened is that, initially, a CPS lawyer formed the

view that the witness would not be credible. That is why the case did

not progress to court. I came here last year and I reversed that

decision. I looked at it afresh and I formed a different view, that she

was absolutely credible. Would you say that Holly was betrayed? I have

no difficulty in apologising to her. She was let down by the whole system

and we were part of that system. That was the actor who played the

man with us now and Sammy with us he is survived a child grooming gang.

It really was one of those rare moments of these days, a television

moment when anybody who watched it last night over last few nights will

be talking about this programme today. It was so shocking and, at

times, terrifying to watch but, Sammy, you lived a version of it,

didn't you? What happened to you? Just after my 14th birthday I was at

a local shop with a friend, as most teenagers do, going about my

business when Ian came in. We knew him as a friend, he was not a

complete stranger. That was it. From that moment, nearly every day for

two years I spent with him. He mentally, sexually and physically

abused me and I never thought for a moment that he was a paedophile. He

was 24, well-dressed, well groomed and the attention he gave is the

attention that parents cannot give and friends and siblings... I have

attention from people who came from good families, and it helps you to

build up your self-esteem. The grooming process for me was the most

fun but most damaging. A few things spring to mind. One is your bravery,

speaking about this, given what happened. You say you were 14, a

child. One of the things that we saw in this drama and what played out in

real life is how people weren't listened to. What was your

experience of that part of the process? I was never treated as a

victim, always as equal, as his mistress. A police officer said to

me that I would never be a reliable witness in court because I was part

of his criminal gangs. I felt that for all of my life, up until about

2012. So this was a police officer talking to a child, saying you were

a criminal, part of the problem, not a victim? Yes, victims were blamed,

we were seen as part of the problem. We wanted it and were asking for it.

We were children. These criminals are paedophiles, there's nothing

equal about that. We saw from the programme your role in the case,

which obviously changed things significantly. When you first took

over, what were you aware of? What did you see? Andrew Norfolk had been

doing something at the time, examining this case is around the

country, and formed the view that they were not on the radar of the

justice system and the policing, as just indicated, they were taking it

seriously. They may view is that... They keep begetting, they were

children. Assumptions that they want credible, unreliable, because they

potentially had chaotic grounds, meaning they somehow wouldn't be

believed in court. That was exactly why the perpetrators were picking on

these young people, because they had chaotic and troubled backgrounds.

And they made assumptions that the authorities wouldn't take them

seriously. So they were doubly damped. They weren't being believed

and at the same time the perpetrators knew they wouldn't be

believed so they were targeted. So I wanted to decide to turn this 180

degrees and prosecute this case and we would provide all of the support

we could do the victims to make sure that we get this case to court, as

you saw in the film, and bring them to justice. What it did do is change

the landscape. This is before Jimmy Savile, before you tree, before

everything that happened in mother and. -- Yewtree. It changed the

landscape. Both of your experiences, given what happened, you think there

has been a change in attitude, first of all from the point of view of the

police? Absolutely. There are specialist officers now that didn't

exist before. Lots of people who were of the old school. There are

national guidelines. When I was part of the national prosecution service,

we had the highest number of convictions in history. But right

now somewhere a child is being abused and some perpetrator is

getting away with it, so we have to be relentless in how we deal with

these matters. Sammy, you have done an incredible thing and wavered your

anonymity. Mostly children who are abused are protected by the law and

you have decided to speak up, speak out and talk to us today and talk to

other people as well about this. What was your motivation? How did

you steal yourself to do that? For years I was speaking about Jessica

and I could he -- see how much it was helping people. As Jessica I

took it as far as I could. As Sammy I could do so much more. I always

felt my safety was the most important. I've got that now. I know

what to look for. So I will keep campaigning and I think I've got a

lot to give. I want other people to do the same. The more people to come

forward to more of a difference we make. People talk about scars

episodes like this leave on people. Tell people a bit about life now.

You've got children of your own? I have. What age are your kids? They

will be 16 and 11 in the next few months. I am quite lucky now because

of the support I've had, as a child I was failed but as an adult I have

a good team. I've got lots of support and that's enabled me to

move forward. As a mother, you must reflect now, seeing your own

children, a similar age as you were when all of this started, ALDI

reflect on children's vulnerabilities and how you protect

them? -- how do you reflect. My 16-year-old is so much like me as a

child. People think because he is a boy they can't get involved in it,

but this happens the boys too. One major issue that is not recognised

is children getting groomed to commit crime. It happened to girls,

it happened to me. Toys are abused as well. It calls for changes in the

law of course. At the time of the Rothschild case we saw 11 barristers

cross-examining you. That can't happen any more. Judges control the

proceedings to make sure that one advocate asks questions. We make

sure that video interviews are taken by specialists. All of these things

that weren't happening then, to make the experience more comfortable. We

have to test it. I am absolutely satisfied that we've come a long way

in six years. That said, I know there are children being abused now

and we have to provide more support. It is tremendously courageous of

Sammy and others like her. The more that happens, the safer we will be.

Thank you very much. This prompted Sony questions. The

film is available on iPlayer. -- so many questions. It is a legitimate

picture of what happened. He did a great job. Details of organisations

offering support are available at the BBC website. You can call for

free at any time. You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News. The main stories this morning: Party

leaders clash in the first TV debate Brexit was high on the agenda,

but both Theresa May A BBC investigation finds thousands

of police officers across the UK have not had up-to-date

background checks to ensure When it comes to houses, are you all

about the period features? New and brand spanking? Tell us about the

difference! Good morning.

It's a row between the Home Builders Federation

and housing TV expert Kirsty Allsopp about which is better quality

when it comes to housing - old or new-builds?

The Home Builders Federation suggested it could cost around

?50,000 to bring up an older house up to same standards as a new build.

Kirsty strongly disagrees and says many new builds aren't

I had a nosey around a new build in Manchester to see

How are you doing? Good. We are in one of your showhome is. Why would

you want to buy one of these over an old build? Would question. The key

features we have in this house is the high ceilings, the big windows,

lots of natural light. You are buying space, not rooms, so this is

a really nice open plan space, whereas traditionally older houses

divide into more smaller spaces. The house is actually also a smart home.

So the lights, the hot water, the heating, they can all be controlled

through an app on your phone. You can get all of these things in all

the bills, Kai Choo? Is not like these are the only places you can

get them. -- can't you? You could fit into an older property. The

beauty is the design is on paper, when you get the keys you are ready

to go. But whatever happens you will fight over the telly, no matter

what! That's true. Robert Reed is an estate

agent and joins me now. When your customers come to you and

are looking for an old bills, why are they going down that road? Some

people love older houses because of the way they look and feel. Very

often with an older house you don't necessarily buy it with your head.

You might buy it with your heart. You might just love the features and

the look of the house. That is often what's in the mind of someone buying

an older house. This argument from the Home Builders Federation about a

?50,000 figure over if you years that you might have to put into it

to get it up to the standards of a new build, does that hold? I think

the Home Builders Federation advert was generalising, to say that all

new builds are essentially perfect and all old houses need over ?50,000

spending on them. There will be the odd old house that needs that or

more, but it is wrong to generalise. You might get a period house that is

renovated extremely well and extended to a high quality. So I

think it is too broad brushed to suggest that. People often feel if

you buy an older house you need to do lots of checks before you buy it.

With the new build, Kenny just assume everything will run smoothly?

I don't think you can. I grew up in an older house and I House that's 12

months old, so I've enjoyed both of them in different ways. New build is

not necessarily perfection. There is a variable quality in the market. Do

customers have enough information? Often when you buy a new build you

often don't get to see it or enjoy it until the day of completion.

Whereas when you have had an older house you probably get more checks.

With the new house the checks will be done but by an external body.

They will establish whether it is the benchmark quality, but you don't

see it until the day you move in. With an old house you might have

more of a chance to look around. Thank you very much. If you are

looking to buy a house, there's plenty out there, but make sure you

do all of the work before you buy it.

There's something about an older house, a bit crumbly and ragged

around the edges, that I prefer. The cleaning!

It reminds me of me. Time now to get the news,

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