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Hello, this is Breakfast, with Charlie Stayt in West London. | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
The desperate search continues to find the missing | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
Over 24 hours on from the blaze, 12 people are known to have died. | :00:11. | :00:21. | |
Dozens more are still unaccounted for. | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
We don't know if they are alive or dead or if they are in hospital or | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
not. The Prime Minister promises a full | :00:33. | :00:33. | |
investigation onto the causes On the ground there's anger that | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
warnings may have been ignored. There will have been people trapped | :00:37. | :00:47. | |
in that tower knowing that the people who were supposed to look | :00:48. | :00:49. | |
after them didn't care about them. Many spend the night in emergency | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
shelters as the community pull together to support people left | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
without homes and basic needs. On Breakfast today: We'll bring | :00:55. | :01:07. | |
you the latest on the fire and we'll be asking how such a tragedy | :01:08. | :01:17. | |
could have struck in the heart Reports in the US that the man | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
investigating Russia's involvement in the American presidential | :01:21. | :01:25. | |
election is looking at whether President Trump attempted | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
to obstruct justice. The days of coming home to a big | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
mobile bill after a European holiday From today roaming charges | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
are being dropped across the EU. In sport, England's hopes of winning | :01:35. | :01:44. | |
the Champions Trophy are over. Eoin Morgan's men were favourites | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
to win the tournament but they were thrashed by Pakistan | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
in their semi-final in Cardiff After eight muggy start it will be | :01:52. | :02:03. | |
fresh with a mix of sunshine and showers. I will have a full forecast | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
in about 15 minutes. I'm in West London where almost 30 | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
hours after fire swept through the Grenfell | :02:08. | :02:17. | |
Tower behind me. It is shocking, the devastation. In | :02:18. | :02:28. | |
the front part you can see some of the smoke emerging. You might have | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
seen images last night, it was clear that there were still claims in the | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
building. This morning the search | :02:36. | :02:36. | |
continues for the scores Many questions remain | :02:37. | :02:38. | |
but this is what we do know. Let's take you through some of the | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
details. Police have confirmed | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
12 people dead so far, but that figure is expected | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
to rise significantly. 34 patients remain in hospital | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
and 18 are in critical care. Around the area, many people have | :02:51. | :03:05. | |
tried to help out, giving those caught up in this accommodation and | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
shelter and food and we will have more on that later this morning. | :03:10. | :03:11. | |
The official death toll is expected to rise at even so it is outstripped | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
by the number of the missing. These are some of their faces. Whole | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
families are unaccounted for. Many of them lived on the top floors. | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
This woman was searching local hospitals for her friend and three | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
children. I don't know if they are alive or dead or if they are in | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
hospital or not. Just waiting and hoping. As dusk fell nearly 18 hours | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
after the blaze started there were still pockets of fire in the tower | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
block. The Prime Minister has promised a full enquiry into why so | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
many lives were lost. Of course, once the scene is secure, once the | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
recovery is complete, then investigation will take place into | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
the cause of the fire and if there are any lessons to be learned. | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
Witnesses say the fire spread rapidly, apparently through the new | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
cladding on the outside of the block installed only last year. This fire | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
expert showed how the foam insulation used in some cladding can | :04:19. | :04:25. | |
catch fire. The actual rigid board installation that I believe is most | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
likely to have been used is made from the same material, | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
polyurethanes. I am now setting fire to this and this is the rate at | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
which it earns. That is very, very rapid and this is a typical material | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
used for insulating external buildings. The firm that carried out | :04:42. | :04:49. | |
the refurbishment said it had met all building control fire regulation | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
and health and safety standards. A later statement removed the section | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
about making fire regulations. The government is sufficiently worried | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
to order checks on any tower blocks that have gone through a similar | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
refurbishment. Some residents of Grenfell Tower had to resort to | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
ropes made of blankets and sheets to escape the burning building. There | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
are many questions to be answered - why was there system? Did the fire | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
alarms work? Is the policy the right advice? There are 4000 tower blocks | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
in the UK. This terrible fire will cause a fundamental rethink about | :05:29. | :05:29. | |
the safety of high-rise living. We will address those safety | :05:30. | :05:41. | |
concerns through the programme this morning and try to answer the | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
questions many people have. One of the features of what happened is how | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
quickly the local community and people from further afield | :05:49. | :05:49. | |
volunteered to help. When something as horrific as this | :05:50. | :05:58. | |
happens you either feel despair and hopelessness or you rise above with | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
optimism and a sense of community to come together and support each | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
other. That has been personified here by the community. They have | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
really come out for each other not just by donating what they have in | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
their homes in terms of food and clothing but also being here for the | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
community to provide the moral and spiritual support. We are here to | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
provide aid, tackling food security and providing help with provisions. | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
Blankets and essential resources to support communities - they soon | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
desperately need the support. Me and my son went through the whole house, | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
clothes, trainers, shoes, pyjamas, anything I could find that I don't | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
need that sits there I have packed up and brought down. | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
Those people arriving during the early hours of the morning. And I | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
can tell you arriving here today there are -- is so much equipment, | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
supplies and blankets and as we arrived people told me that there | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
were truckloads arriving in the early hours of the morning and they | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
are kept in storage to help the people who need it most. One of the | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
places where people are getting assistance is the Westway sports | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
centre. We can go now to our | :07:10. | :07:12. | |
correspondent Andy Moore. Yes, this is one of three reception | :07:13. | :07:21. | |
centres set up last night. It is a giant sports hall and you can see | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
Red Cross staff. It is a giant sports hall and mattresses have been | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
laid out on the floor to accommodate some people perhaps from Grenfell | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
Tower block itself but also those people -30 or 40 homes - around the | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
area who were evacuated for fear of the building collapsing or simply | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
because it is too close to Grenfell Tower. We have seen that huge | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
outpouring of generosity from people and just look at the gifts that have | :07:51. | :07:58. | |
been accumulating here in this sports centre. Just down here you | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
can see toothpaste, there are piles of water, there are clothes, and | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
people have been coming from all over the country to donate gifts | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
like this. And also you saw in my report about the missing people. | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
Look at this. This was left on a car overnight. This is someone searching | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
for Marion last seen on the 19th floor with her mother. Somebody very | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
concerned about this missing lady. Some of these people may have been | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
traced by now. There is still a lot of concern about a lot of people, | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
perhaps dozens of people still missing. | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
Thank you very much. We will be investigating those issues around | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
safety concerns. And later on we will speak with the Fire Service to | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
try to get you the latest in connection with the fatalities and | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
casualties. It is so shocking. Look at the smouldering remains. There is | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
still smoke emerging from the building itself. It really is | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
shocking when you see it so close, as we are this morning. We will | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
speak with a fire expert later on to address some of the worries people | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
have about the cladding and other issues. For the moment it is back to | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
the studio. The Met Police has set up | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
an emergency number for anyone Theresa May will meet political | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
parties from Northern Ireland today She'll discuss plans to restore | :09:29. | :09:49. | |
power-sharing at Stormont, and try to ally growing concerns | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
about her attempt to secure the backing of Democratic Unionist | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
MPs in parliament. Chris Mason is our | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
political correspondent. Good morning. This news was put on | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
the backburner yesterday, rightly so, because of events in west | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
London. The question now is about the talks, how tricky they might be. | :10:08. | :10:15. | |
Good morning. Yes, there was sent at Westminster that the focus rightly | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
shouldn't be here yesterday. Nonetheless there are big question | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
is, firstly about the devolved government in Northern Ireland, then | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
of course the broader context, that was a big issue already, the broader | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
context, the deal struck between the Conservatives and the Democratic | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
Unionist Party, which has secured tenancies at Westminster in the | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
general election last week. The question that is being asked by | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
sceptics of the deal, which is yet to be signed off, is can a | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
conservative government with the support of the Democratic Unionist | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
Party remain entirely impartial in matters of Northern Ireland given it | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
will be hooked up with one particular party? Today the Prime | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
Minister is inviting five different parties from Northern Ireland into | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
Downing Street to discuss the restoration of devolved government | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
with some of them making the argument that they are sceptical | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
about that connection with the Democratic Unionist Party. | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
Discussions with the DUP as far as matters at Westminster are concerned | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
continue. We are yet to find out what the deal amounts to. It could | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
be a little while before we do. Indeed. Something else that was | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
timed quite peculiarly was the announcement by Tim Farron that he | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
is stepping down as leader of the Lib Dems and now the question is was | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
he pushed or did he jump? It is a good question because they're as | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
being pressure on Tim Farron with questions during the general | :11:48. | :11:49. | |
election campaign which effectively boiled down to how he squared with | :11:50. | :11:56. | |
being a practising Christian with leading the party with the word | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
liberal in the title, so there were lots of questions about whether or | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
not he thought gay sex was a scene. In the end after repeated | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
questioning in which he ducked giving a straight answer he said no | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
it wasn't. In his resignation yesterday he said he found it | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
impossible to square being a political leader with his religious | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
convictions. As far as the timing is concerned, just a couple of hours | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
before a senior party official, Lord Patek, said he did not want to | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
continue as home affairs spokesman for the Lib Dems because of concerns | :12:32. | :12:37. | |
he had over what Tim Farron had said during the campaign -- Lord Paddock. | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
I remember speaking with a senior Lib Dem after Tim Farron was | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
appointed two years ago who feared that there could be a problem for | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
Tim Farron growing his religious beliefs with party politics and | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
leadership. In the end that fear then has borne out a couple of years | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
later. There will be a leadership race for the Liberal Democrats over | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
the summer. We will speak with a Lib Dem MP later on on that subject. | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
Thank you for the moment. President Trump is being | :13:06. | :13:07. | |
investigated for possible obstruction of justice, | :13:08. | :13:09. | |
according to the Washington Post. If confirmed, the move | :13:10. | :13:11. | |
by Special Counsel Robert Mueller would mark a turning point | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
in the FBI investigation into Russian interference in last | :13:15. | :13:16. | |
year's presidential election. Mr Trump's lawyer has called | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
the leak of information outrageous, Our North America correspondent | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
David Willis sent this report. These latest allegations centre on | :13:24. | :13:38. | |
testimony from the former FBI director James Comey, the man Donald | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
Trump unceremoniously sacked just a month ago. He gave evidence to | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
Congress saying that while he was director of the FBI Mr Trump | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
attempted to persuade him to drop the investigation into his former | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, a man who was forced to | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
resign after it was revealed that he hadn't been wholly truthful about | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
the extent of his contact with the Russian Ambassador. Well, Donald | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
Trump's lawyer has gone on the attack. He said in a statement the | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
FBI leak of information regarding the President is outrageous, | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
inexcusable and illegal. But the very suggestion that the president | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
of the United States could now be under a criminal enquiry is a | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
significant development in this long-running saga. | :14:32. | :14:33. | |
The Ministry of Defence says it's investigating an accident involving | :14:34. | :14:36. | |
a tank on the Castlemartin firing range in South Pembrokeshire. | :14:37. | :14:39. | |
Officials believe a number of people have been injured. | :14:40. | :14:41. | |
Castlemartin is the only UK Army range normally available | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
The British government needs to do more to improve the well-being | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
The international charity has produced a report examining | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
whether the world's richest countries are meeting | :14:53. | :14:54. | |
internationally-agreed goals for young people. | :14:55. | :14:55. | |
It found that while the UK has made progress dealing with teenage | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
pregnancy and underage drinking, concerns remain over the number | :15:00. | :15:01. | |
of children with poor mental health. | :15:02. | :15:11. | |
The days of coming home from a European holiday | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
to a whopping great big mobile phone bill are over. | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
Good morning. Good morning. This is good news for those who like to go | :15:18. | :15:30. | |
abroad to Europe and don't want to pay massive bills for your phone. I | :15:31. | :15:45. | |
turn roaming off so I talk to nobody during it. They are being scrapped | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
for today. Whatever the package deal is in the UK, you will get that | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
whichever EU country you are in. Sorry, a dodgy cold. It means while | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
you in those countries, you will not be charged more than at home. But if | :16:04. | :16:21. | |
you go for data or text-limiting, you will be charged. It will be the | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
same as at home. People are saying, can I get a cheap Spanish provider | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
and use it in the UK? They have a way around that. It has to be the | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
country you use it in most. It is a home deal. UK news use it abroad and | :16:38. | :16:47. | |
not face extra costs. You are talking to a boss later on. What | :16:48. | :17:02. | |
about them asking for free EU roaming in packages? You have to be | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
more wary of ads. Yes, we could see tariffs go up to account for them. | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
Yes. We will talk to you about that later on the end now for the sport. | :17:11. | :17:19. | |
England are having to get used to not being part of the party. | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
The England cricket captain denied there was any complacency | :17:26. | :17:27. | |
from his side, after they were heavily beaten by Pakistan | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
They went into the match undefeated and as heavy favourites, | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
but were comprehensively outplayed by Pakistan who won | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
They will play either Bangladesh or India in Sunday's final. | :17:38. | :17:44. | |
Southampton have sacked manager Claude Puel. | :17:45. | :17:46. | |
That's despite the Frenchman leading them to the League Cup final | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
and securing a respectable eighth place finish in the Premier League. | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
Puel only joined the Saints a year ago. | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
Manchester United have confirmed the signing of Swedish defender | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
Victor Lindelof from Benfica on a four-year deal. | :18:03. | :18:04. | |
The fee for the 22-year-old is thought to be around ?30 million. | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
And it's been confirmed that the former boxing world | :18:09. | :18:10. | |
champion at five different weights, Floyd Mayweather, will take | :18:11. | :18:13. | |
on the Ulitmate fighting lightweight champion, | :18:14. | :18:14. | |
They'll meet in a bout under normal boxing rules in Las Vegas | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
So, McGregor will have to rein it in. In ultimate fighting they can do | :18:19. | :18:42. | |
anything. This is boxing. The weather. It has been glorious so | :18:43. | :18:51. | |
far this week. Will it continue? We have more summer sunshine in the | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
forecast. A muggy night. Through the day, it will turn more fresh. | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
Sunshine and scattered showers in some parts of the country as well. | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
Today, a cold front working in from the west. A fairly weak front moving | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
east but introducing more fresh air coming in off the Atlantic. That | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
front brings a band of cloud and drizzly rain in Scotland and Wales | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
and down towards the south-west of Wales first thing edging east across | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
the country for today. Any country will have a peter off towards the | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
south-east. Scattered showers in the north-west. Remaining dry for | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
Cornwall, Devon as well. Not as warm as yesterday. 17-18. Pleasant. | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
Temperatures in eastern England, 24. It will feel more fresh during the | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
afternoon when the front moves through. Northern England. One or | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
two showers breaking through the afternoon. Still some sunshine. | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
Scotland, the afternoon, scattered showers. Some could be quite sharp | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
and heavy with gusting winds at times as well. Northern Ireland, | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
blustery showers this afternoon. Temperatures in the mid- and | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
possibly high teens. In Wales, lots to come through. One or two showers | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
towards the north. Not a bad day to come. Showers in northern areas fade | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
away through the evening. Largely dry this evening and overnight for | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
many parts of the country. And with that fresh air around, it will be | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
more comfortable. This coming night, lows of around 12-13. Five degrees | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
cooler than it is this morning. Tomorrow, cloud and outbreaks of | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
rain across parts of western Scotland in particular. Elsewhere, | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
dry weather coming through the day to borrow. Warming up the | :20:42. | :20:50. | |
temperatures on a key upward trend. The weekend. High pressure moves in | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
from the south. We will see warm air coming through Saturday. Rain for | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
the west and north-west of Scotland. Elsewhere, a dry day to come. Light | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
winds. Temperatures on Saturday likely to reach 28 degrees in sunny | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
spots. Even warmer by Sunday. There will still be rain in the final | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
plots of Scotland. Elsewhere, dry. We are likely to see 30 degrees by | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
Sunday. For now, it is back to Charlie. | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
Welcome back. We are in the shadow of the devastating fire at this | :21:25. | :21:37. | |
tower. There is still smoke rising against the blue sky behind it. A | :21:38. | :21:45. | |
shocking scene this morning. What is amazing is all of the people coming | :21:46. | :21:52. | |
down the offer assistance. You can see people bringing water and food. | :21:53. | :22:05. | |
There are huge piles of duvets and blankets people have brought in | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
overnight for those left homeless. Graham Satchell spend some time with | :22:09. | :22:09. | |
those keen to help. On the street, people reliving | :22:10. | :22:20. | |
the stuff of nightmares, the horror of seeing people jump, | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
seeing them trapped at windows. It was terrible because I saw people | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
at the top floor moving around, screaming for help and before | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
you knew it the fire just Some of those missing | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
have now been identified including 12-year-old Jessica | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
who lived on the 20th floor. We met Sophie, 11, one | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
of her school friends. It is horrible for me to hear | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
that they are missing or dead The grief is very | :22:48. | :23:02. | |
public as some received But with the grief, a truly | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
heartwarming response. Everyone seemed to be carrying | :23:08. | :23:09. | |
bags and boxes of water, Churches, mosques and community | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
centres inundated with We just got stuck in and it | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
has been fantastic. This was a spontaneous response | :23:16. | :23:27. | |
but as the day wore on, a sense of anger that the local | :23:28. | :23:40. | |
authority was nowhere It is just the community | :23:41. | :23:42. | |
doing it by themselves. There is growing anger | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
as well about the fire, anger that poor people | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
in a council-owned block could have perished and anger that | :23:50. | :23:52. | |
warnings were ignored. There is no way that that fire | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
should spread that quickly We went with residents and said that | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
someone needs to look at it. David Collins says concerns | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
he raised about fire safety People trapped in a tower knowing | :24:11. | :24:12. | |
that the people who were supposed to look after them did | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
not care about them. Debris is everywhere on the ground | :24:20. | :24:21. | |
here as questions hang in the air. How could this fire have spread | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
so quickly and why did so many die? Those are the questions so many | :24:27. | :24:52. | |
people in the area are asking. Graham Fieldhouse is a fire-safety | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
expert, and joins me now. Good morning. First of all, many | :24:58. | :25:06. | |
people are asking the same question. The speed of the fire took off. What | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
are your experts telling you about that? It is unusual. We haven't seen | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
a fire takes hold of the external part of a building. When we think | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
about fires, we look at the internal not the external. One of the issues | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
that came out of Lakmal was some of the external assisting the fire. | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
Enquiries were made into that and reports were done. We have another | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
enquiry. We want one that will put things forward that are helpful for | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
the future so we don't have to go through interviews like this again. | :25:52. | :26:00. | |
We need a full enquiry to determine what people knew about the product | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
put in. What specification was for the product? What about the people | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
looking at the certification? What was specified to be put in the | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
property? And the fire doors! One of the interviews yesterday said the | :26:19. | :26:25. | |
corridors were very quickly smoke-locked. Can I just tell the | :26:26. | :26:41. | |
viewers, but there is a lot of debris around. It is really flaky | :26:42. | :26:51. | |
and charred. It is probably the clagging. It will be interesting to | :26:52. | :27:04. | |
find out. This clearly burned in the ferocious fire. It is worth saying | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
even as we are standing here there is a fine layer of dust. You cannot | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
see I'm in West London, where more | :27:14. | :30:36. | |
than 24 hours after fire swept through the Grenfell Tower | :30:37. | :30:54. | |
behind me, you can still see smoke And it is interesting, you can see a | :30:55. | :31:08. | |
little more smoke emerging from this side of the building but it is | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
really shocking to see the remains of the 27 story building behind me. | :31:13. | :31:18. | |
Let's take you through the details of what's happening this morning. | :31:19. | :31:20. | |
Police have confirmed 12 people dead so far, | :31:21. | :31:22. | |
but that figure is expected to rise significantly. | :31:23. | :31:29. | |
In terms of those getting at tension and care: | :31:30. | :31:31. | |
34 patients remain in hospital and 18 are in critical care. | :31:32. | :31:44. | |
Many families from the Grenfell Tower | :31:45. | :31:46. | |
and surrounding buildings have spent the night in emergency accommodation | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
When something as horrific as this happens, you either feel despair at | :31:49. | :31:59. | |
and hopelessness or you rise above with optimism and positivity to | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
support each other. That has been personified | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
here by the community. They have really come out for each | :32:09. | :32:10. | |
other not just by donating what they have in their homes | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
in terms of food and clothing but also being here for | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
the community to provide the moral We are here to provide aid, | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
tackling food security and providing help with provisions, | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
blankets and essential resources to support communities that | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
so desperately need the support. Me and my son went through the whole | :32:30. | :32:31. | |
house, clothes, trainers, shoes, pyjamas, anything | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
I could find that I don't need that sits there I have bagged | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
up and brought down. This is a tightly packed residential | :32:40. | :32:49. | |
area and wherever you go people have left signs saying help yourself, | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
there is water and other supplies as well. Alongside the very real anger | :32:54. | :33:01. | |
is emerging more and more. Many people have come along to help those | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
families who are without a home temporarily. Andy Moore is at the | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
Westway Sport Centre just a short distance from where we are now, | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
where some of those people are being helped. Yes, hello, we are | :33:15. | :33:22. | |
underneath the Westway, the road above us, and we are at this | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
basketball court, together with donations, these bags given to | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
people who have lost everything, they are just here and they are | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
being sorted out into various piles that might be useful for the various | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
people. So, we can see over the back some girls clothes, then it would | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
come around over here there are children's toys, over the far side, | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
and then you can see all of these shoes, this is just an example of | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
the generosity that people are bringing along, these gifts for | :33:50. | :33:57. | |
people who have lost their homes and everything in them. Some of those | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
people have stayed in the sports centre over the back, a huge sports | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
hall where mattresses were laid out on the floor and we understand quite | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
a few people were saying their overnight. Some of them were from | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
the tower block itself, others were from the homes around that had been | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
evacuated because of the danger, because they were too close to | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
Grenfell Tower and there are three emergency centres we understand that | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
have been set up. I talked earlier on about people who are missing. We | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
have seen notices posted up with photos of various people put on | :34:35. | :34:42. | |
cars. A lot of people posting these notices trying to find loved ones | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
and it seems dozens are missing and unaccounted for. Thanks very much | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
for that. We will be spending more time with volunteers and those | :34:53. | :34:56. | |
involved in the process. So many people coming down. We were told | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
there were people arriving in the early hours of the morning with | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
truckloads of materials to try to help people. More of that later and | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
we have the latest updates from the Fire Service about the casualties | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
and exactly what the situation is with the building itself as we can | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
see. This morning there is still smoke emerging and late last night | :35:16. | :35:22. | |
in the darkness you could still see the flames and we will have an | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
update a little later on but for the moment it is back to the studio. | :35:27. | :35:28. | |
Thank you. The Met Police has set up | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
an emergency number for anyone Theresa May will meet political | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
parties from Northern Ireland today She'll discuss plans to restore | :35:35. | :35:51. | |
power-sharing at Stormont, and try to allay growing concerns | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
about her attempt to secure the backing of Democratic Unionist | :35:55. | :35:57. | |
MPs in parliament. Meanwhile, Tim Farron says he is | :35:58. | :36:08. | |
stepping down as leader of the Liberal Democrats because he feels | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
torn between his Christian faith and his political duties. | :36:12. | :36:14. | |
During the campaign he was repeatedly asked | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
Mr Farron will stay on as leader until Parliament goes | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
President Trump is being investigated for possible | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
obstruction of justice, according to the Washington Post. | :36:24. | :36:25. | |
If confirmed, the move by Special Counsel Robert Mueller | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
would mark a turning point in the FBI investigation | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
into Russian interference in last year's presidential election. | :36:31. | :36:32. | |
Mr Trump's lawyer has called the leak of information outrageous, | :36:33. | :36:35. | |
Those are the top stories for you and we will keep you up-to-date with | :36:36. | :36:50. | |
the fire at Grenfell Tower in West London through the morning. It is | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
time to turn to the sport with Mike, and not a great result to begin | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
with. Congratulations to Pakistani. Great result for Pakistan. And it | :37:00. | :37:06. | |
could be Pakistan- India a game. They could play in the final -- | :37:07. | :37:15. | |
again. A lot of head scratching for England as they have been building | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
up to the tournament for two years, strong favourites to get to the | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
final at least. What happened? In cricket, there is a fine line | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
between success and failure. It can take just a couple of overs and the | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
momentum changes. And the batsmen didn't perform too. Were they | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
complacent? England's cricketers are out | :37:35. | :37:36. | |
of the Champions Trophy, after a crushing defeat to Pakistan | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
in their semi-final. Eoin Morgan's side had been | :37:41. | :37:42. | |
the favourite for the tournament, but struggled on a slow | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
pitch in Cardiff. Jonny Bairstow, who came | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
into the side, hit 43, but wickets tumbled quickly, | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
including Ben Stokes, who went for 34, without | :37:53. | :37:54. | |
hitting a single boundary. England made just 211, | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
which Pakistan knocked off They play either India or Bangladesh | :37:59. | :38:00. | |
in Sunday's final at The Oval. Morgan denied his team | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
had been complacent. We played against some really good | :38:07. | :38:19. | |
sides the recently and we have managed to beat them. That hasn't | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
gone into our heads at all. In today's gang, going in knowing we | :38:24. | :38:32. | |
would play on a used cricket brought Pakistan's gang closer to home -- | :38:33. | :38:34. | |
game. Southampton are looking | :38:35. | :38:35. | |
for a new manager, after sacking The Frenchman had | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
spent just one season at St Mary's, but during that | :38:39. | :38:42. | |
time guided the Saints to the League Cup Final, | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
where they were narrowly beaten by Manchester United, | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
and he helped them to finish a respectable eighth | :38:49. | :38:50. | |
in the Premier League. It's been confirmed that the former | :38:51. | :38:52. | |
boxing world champion at five different weights, Floyd Mayweather, | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
will fight the Ultimate Fighting They will meet in a bout | :38:56. | :38:58. | |
in Las Vegas on the 26th of August. 40-year-old Mayweather retired | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
undefeated after winning his 49th straight bout in September 2015, | :39:04. | :39:05. | |
while the 29-year-old Irishman McGregor is the first | :39:06. | :39:07. | |
fighter in the UFC to have held two belts but has never | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
boxed professionally. The contest will take place under | :39:11. | :39:12. | |
normal boxing rules so Mcgregor will have to limit himself | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
to the noble art of just punching. No kicking all getting on the floor, | :39:16. | :39:31. | |
he will just have to stick to punching. | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
Warren Gatland has named Lions team for Saturday's warm-up game and says | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
he's going to keep the All Blacks guessing ahead of their first | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
Johnny Sexton has been preferred to Owen Farrell at fly half | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
for the Lions' clash with the Maori All Blacks in Rotorua. | :39:47. | :39:59. | |
The US Open golf gets under way in Wisconsin this afternoon. | :40:00. | :40:02. | |
Much of the pre-tournament talk has been about the punishing rough, | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
with long grass surrounding many of the fairways. | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
Organisers took the unusual step of cutting some of it back, | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
We have 60 yards from left alone to write line - you have got 156 | :40:15. | :40:28. | |
players of the best in the world, if we can't hit it in that avenue we | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
may as well pack our bags and go home -- right. At no, the US Open, | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
supposed to be a tough test and guy Leigh can't play within a 50 yard | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
zone, I don't think they have much to complain about. | :40:43. | :40:45. | |
For most players are ruffled, up to their knees but for me I would | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
struggle to see over the top. It would be over our shoulders, | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
wouldn't it? And the longest course in US Open history. It will be fun | :40:55. | :41:04. | |
to watch. I think so. You. Sarah will bring you up-to-date with the | :41:05. | :41:06. | |
weather for the week ahead shortly. We now know that at least 12 people | :41:07. | :41:08. | |
have died as a result of the fire The cause remains unknown | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
but questions are already being asked about how this | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
could have happened. In 2009 three women and three | :41:16. | :41:18. | |
children were killed in a fire Southwark Council pleaded guilty | :41:19. | :41:21. | |
to four charges relating to safety breaches and lessons were supposed | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
to have been learnt. Professor Kurt Barling | :41:27. | :41:28. | |
is a journalist who investigated the Southwark fire | :41:29. | :41:39. | |
almost eight years ago, and joins me from our | :41:40. | :41:41. | |
London studio. Thank you for joining us. Can you | :41:42. | :41:50. | |
remind us what happened the Lakanal House fire in 2009? It was a | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
terrible incident at Lakanal House, as you said. Six people died. It was | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
a fire which took over effectively a whole block in south London. Of | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
course, there were many lessons at the time that were said to be | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
learnt. Let me run you through a list of what the inquest into the | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
fire said in 2013 in terms of the main questions that needed to be | :42:14. | :42:17. | |
addressed. Why the fire spread so quickly, should there have been | :42:18. | :42:20. | |
alarmed and sprinklers, did renovation affect safety, was the | :42:21. | :42:27. | |
advice to stay put right and what were the implications for other | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
buildings? What is tragic today is that exactly the same questions are | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
being asked about this fire yesterday. Frankly, it can be | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
described as nothing short of a national scandal that this has been | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
allowed to happen again. After an inquest which looked at so much | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
evidence over 11 weeks in 2013 in Lakanal House, nothing short of a | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
public enquiry will get to the problem of what the problem is with | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
these tower blocks and keeping people safe. There has been a report | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
in plan in government to look at the safety issues, to look at where the | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
sprinklers should be put in place, to look at how when a fire takes | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
place, it should be contained. Why hasn't this moved on, why haven't we | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
seen developments? There are lots of people in the fire safety business | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
who say that the department of communities and the government have | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
dragged their feet. It has to be said, four years on from a really | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
important inquest into a really tragic fire in which six people lost | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
their lives, the same questions being asked - people are right to | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
ask why nothing has been done substantially to prevent this | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
happening again. You see, we have all seen, pictures of the fire | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
yesterday. We have seen how quickly the fire spread. On the 10pm news | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
last night you could still see the glowing fire. That is 22 hours after | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
the fire started. You have to ask yourself the question, the public | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
authorities have a principal responsibility to protect life, to | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
protect the citizen. Clearly this building has failed and the systems | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
put in place to prevent fire in tower blocks has failed too. The | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
evidence is there for all of us to see. The time for talking is over. | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
The time for action has started. Thank you very much for joining us | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
this morning on Breakfast. The time now is coming up to 6:45am and of | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
course the Grenfell Tower fire is the top story this morning and the | :44:38. | :44:40. | |
search continues for dozens of missing people after the London | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
tower block fire which has so far claimed 12 lives. And anger is | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
growing over whether safety concerns were ignored. The Prime Minister has | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
promised a full investigation into why the blaze spread so quickly. | :44:54. | :45:04. | |
We are in West London keeping you up-to-date on that all day. Bye for | :45:05. | :45:23. | |
now, the weather. Is the warm weather going to last? Yes. It will | :45:24. | :45:33. | |
turn hot. For today, after the muggy start, more fresh. A respite in heat | :45:34. | :45:39. | |
and humidity. A fresh feel developing with sunshine and | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
scattered showers. Fresh weather will be drawn in by this weather | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
front heading in from the west. That is introducing that Atlantic in it. | :45:48. | :45:56. | |
Scattered showers. This band of cloud is going east across much of | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
the country. Rainfall disappearing by the time it gets to eastern | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
England. By this afternoon, sunshine and some of us will see scattered | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
showers. Remaining dry across the south-west of England. Not as warm | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
as yesterday. A pleasant day. 17-18. Temperatures around 24 in East | :46:18. | :46:24. | |
Anglia and the south-east. More fresh and less humid during the | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
afternoon with sunshine. Scattered showers developing in parts of | :46:29. | :46:30. | |
northern England, especially the north-west. Scotland as well. | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
Frequent showers by this afternoon. Sunshine in between. The odd sharp | :46:36. | :46:42. | |
shower and thunder around. Show Northern Ireland will be heavy at | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
times and blustery as well with gusty winds. Equally, dry weather. | :46:46. | :46:52. | |
Wales. Showers in the north. Much of Wales a king dry and bright. -- | :46:53. | :46:58. | |
looking. Showers easing the way for a time to be showery rain continuing | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
in the far north-west overnight. More dry and comfortable for | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
sleeping. Overnight, temperatures down to 12 - 14. Five degrees lower | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
than this morning first thing. The next morning, dry and settled. | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
Outbreaks of rain in Northern Ireland initially entered the | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
Scotland as well. Elsewhere, dry and fine. 23- 24. High pressure holding | :47:24. | :47:31. | |
on through Friday night and the weekend. That sets the scene for a | :47:32. | :47:39. | |
warm and largely dry weekend. Blustery winds in the north. | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
Elsewhere, warm and dry up 28 degrees on Saturday. Sunday, wet | :47:44. | :47:49. | |
weather in the far north-west. Elsewhere, dry and pretty hot. By | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
the time it hits Sunday, it could be dirty degrees. Those are colossal | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
temperatures! -- 30 degrees. The days of bringing back a massive | :47:59. | :48:04. | |
mobile bill from a European holiday From today roaming charges | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
are being dropped across the EU. This is good news for anyone who | :48:09. | :48:19. | |
wants to use their phone abroad but is worried about costs in the EU. | :48:20. | :48:21. | |
New rules come into force today which mean if you travel to an EU | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
country and use your mobile phone you'll be charged the same | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
And you won't be hit with extra charges for making calls, | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
sending texts, or using data on-line, as long as it's | :48:35. | :48:36. | |
These new rules have been a long time in the making, | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
after years of complaints that customers have been getting ripped | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
Dave Dysone is the Chief Executive of the mobile network, | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
Good morning to you. Good morning. What are the caveats? Today is a big | :48:49. | :48:59. | |
day for everyone, including mobile operators. They have been told they | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
are not allowed to charge anything extra when customers travel to the | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
EU and destinations within it. It is as simple as that. There are | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
questions being raised in terms of the surrounding area, like Norway. | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
There is a little bit of confusion in terms of what is included and | :49:21. | :49:29. | |
what not. Broadly speaking, it is good for consumers. It allows them | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
to use their phone as if it is in the UK. Many people have it as the | :49:36. | :49:40. | |
first thing they look at in the morning in the last thing before | :49:41. | :49:47. | |
bed. And this is something you brought in. You abolished extra | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
roaming charges in several countries several years ago. Have you had to | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
increase tariffs? You have lost revenue. We have not. We have | :49:58. | :50:04. | |
offered this for a long time. The approach to this has been first of | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
all research where customers travel overseas the most. We talked to | :50:09. | :50:14. | |
overseas operators whose networks customers go to. We negotiate prices | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
and pass those on to customers. Right now, we have 60 destinations | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
that are included including Europe and countries outside of it, popular | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
destinations like the USA, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand. | :50:31. | :50:39. | |
That means we don't have to put prices up. You did put prices up by | :50:40. | :50:46. | |
2.6% in May. That is in line with the RPI measure of inflation. That | :50:47. | :50:52. | |
measure of inflation has been discredited recently with people | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
saying the CPI is better. That is lower, 1.8%. Why did you use the | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
higher one? It is referenced in the terms and conditions. We stuck with | :51:05. | :51:14. | |
what people were being charged. We were set for the previous five-year | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
period. It was effectively applying what we said we would do. Otherwise | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
it would be more confusing for customers. Security as well. Your | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
network has experienced problems with cyber security. A couple of | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
months ago, there was a fresh data breach. People going on the accounts | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
had call histories and names of strangers. This is an issue for | :51:40. | :51:53. | |
everyone We are investing a lot of time and effort to make sure we | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
protect customers' information the way they want. It is a complex | :51:58. | :52:05. | |
issue. But one that is increasingly important. I understand that from | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
talking to other CEOs. Everyone is investing the right time and | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
attention to making sure we keep them safe. Thank you for your time. | :52:16. | :52:22. | |
The CEO of Three. Over the last few months on BBC | :52:23. | :52:24. | |
Breakfast we've had to report some harrowing news, including | :52:25. | :52:27. | |
yesterday's fire at Grenfell Tower Of course, we will continue | :52:28. | :52:29. | |
coverage of that. But we also wanted to bring | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
you something else this morning. It's a story that might bring | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
a smile to your face. As part of the BBC's Music Day, | :52:37. | :52:39. | |
we wanted to show you one project that's making a difference | :52:40. | :52:42. | |
to hospital patients and the medical Our entertainment correspondent, | :52:43. | :52:45. | |
Colin Paterson, has been This is not how a hospital high | :52:46. | :53:01. | |
dependency unit normally sounds. But at the Manchester Royal Infirmary, | :53:02. | :53:14. | |
it is becoming a regular event. Since last July, professional | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
musicians have been brought into play for patients. And it is easy to | :53:20. | :53:31. | |
see the sheer joy it brings. I found myself in an intensive care unit, | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
and I found that experience quite traumatising. It was the idea of | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
Helen especially Taylor. She had only a TV set. I felt alive again. | :53:44. | :53:52. | |
It was transformative. I did not think about my condition, I did not | :53:53. | :53:57. | |
feel any pain. It was quite incredible how they helped me. It | :53:58. | :54:01. | |
was all I could talk about when I left the hospital. Already a | :54:02. | :54:04. | |
volunteer for music in hospitals, she decided to set up ICUHere, to | :54:05. | :54:11. | |
take music into intensive care units. It has proven a big hit. It | :54:12. | :54:21. | |
is soothing. It is good for you. It is making a difference. I don't want | :54:22. | :54:31. | |
to stereotype you, but you are a motorcycle rider and you have | :54:32. | :54:38. | |
tattoos, do you like hard rock? No. And the staff approved of the | :54:39. | :54:48. | |
musical companies. It is relaxing and helps. The day after terror | :54:49. | :54:59. | |
attacks, she helped out in the way she could, by playing in intensive | :55:00. | :55:07. | |
care. I know this can be quite settling for the staff. Sometimes | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
they come it is they need. I come in if it is appropriate. One of the | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
nurses said it was a horrible week and it is just what they needed. And | :55:17. | :55:24. | |
one patient Jacqueline, told me having music played by her bedside | :55:25. | :55:31. | |
and make her holds a better. To me, music is really good for healing. -- | :55:32. | :55:43. | |
her whole day better. How powerful is music? It can move mountains and | :55:44. | :55:50. | |
change hearts. And it can do wonders. Colin Paterson, BBC News, | :55:51. | :55:59. | |
Manchester Royal Infirmary. Colin there, hearing about the power | :56:00. | :56:00. | |
of music as part of BBC Music Day. You can find out more about events | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
that are happening where you live 12 people are known to have | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
died, but the death toll Dozens of families have spent | :56:09. | :56:32. | |
the night sleeping in temporary accommodation or shelters- | :56:33. | :56:40. | |
some who were evacuated That is for those affected | :56:41. | :56:42. | |
by the Grenfell Tower fire. Hello, this is Breakfast, | :56:43. | :59:39. | |
with Charlie Stayt in West London. The desperate search | :59:40. | :00:15. | |
continues to find the missing Over 24 hours on from the blaze, | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
12 people are known to have died. Scores more are still | :00:19. | :00:27. | |
unaccounted for. We don't know if they are alive | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
or dead or if they are in The Prime Minister promises a full | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
investigation onto the causes On the ground there's anger that | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
warnings may have been ignored. There will have been people trapped | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
in that tower knowing that the people who were supposed | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
to look after them didn't Many spend the night | :00:48. | :00:49. | |
in emergency shelters, as the community pull together | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
to support people left without homes On Breakfast today: We'll bring | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
you the latest on the fire and we'll be asking how a tragedy like this | :00:58. | :01:20. | |
could have struck in the heart Also this morning: Liberal Democrat | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
leader Tim Farron steps down from the post saying he's "torn" | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
between his Christian faith We'll speak to one | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
of his colleagues. The days of coming home to a big | :01:33. | :01:41. | |
mobile bill after a European holiday From today, roaming charges | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
are being dropped across the EU. In sport, England's hopes of winning | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
the Champions Trophy are over. Eoin Morgan's men were favourites | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
to win the tournament but they were thrashed by Pakistan | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
in their semi-final in Cardiff It will be fresh with a mix | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
of sunshine and showers. I will have a full forecast | :02:00. | :02:14. | |
in about 15 minutes. I'm in West London where | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
30 hours after fire swept through the Grenfell Tower | :02:18. | :02:24. | |
behind me, you can still see smoke rising from the building | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
and the fire services at work And there is no escaping how | :02:28. | :02:40. | |
shocking the image is of the charred remains of the 24 story building and | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
let me take you through the latest information we have in terms of the | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
fatalities and casualties. Police have confirmed | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
12 people dead so far, but that figure is expected | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
to rise significantly. 34 patients remain in hospital | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
and 18 are in critical care. Now, what we know locally is so many | :02:56. | :03:08. | |
people have gathered around to bring help and offer accommodation and | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
shelter to those who have been caught up in this. Andy Moore has | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
the latest. The official death toll | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
is expected to rise, but even so it;s outstripped | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
by the number of the missing. Many of them lived | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
on the top floors. This woman was searching local | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
hospitals for her friend I don't know if they're alive | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
or dead or if they're As dusk fell nearly 18 hours | :03:34. | :03:41. | |
after the blaze started, there were still pockets of fire | :03:42. | :03:50. | |
inside the tower block. The Prime Minister has promised | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
there would be a full enquiry Of course, once the scene is secure, | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
once the recovery is complete, then an investigation will take | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
place into the cause of the fire and if there are any | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
lessons to be learned. Witnesses say the fire | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
spread rapidly, apparently through the new cladding | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
on the outside of the block This fire expert showed how the foam | :04:15. | :04:16. | |
insulation used in some cladding The actual rigid-board installation | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
that I believe is most likely to have been used is made | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
from the same material, I'm now setting fire to this | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
and this is the rate That is very, very rapid and this | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
is a typical material used The firm that carried out | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
the refurbishment said it had met all building control fire regulation | :04:40. | :04:51. | |
and health and safety standards. A later statement removed | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
the section about meeting fire The government is sufficiently | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
worried to order checks on any tower blocks that have gone | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
through a similar refurbishment. Some residents of Grenfell Tower had | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
to resort to ropes made of blankets and sheets to escape | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
the burning building. There are many questions to be | :05:08. | :05:18. | |
answered: Why wasn't Is the statehood policy | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
the right advice? There are 4000 tower | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
blocks in the UK. This terrible fire will cause | :05:26. | :05:27. | |
a fundamental rethink about the safety | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
of high-rise living. Later on, we will be discussing some | :05:31. | :05:43. | |
of those questions that have been asked and it is definitely true that | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
there is a growing sense of anger locally about how this building was | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
built and we will be addressing some of those issues later on but walking | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
around here, as you walk around the busy buildup area, everywhere you | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
walk you see little signs on walls offering people assistance, bottles | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
of water, please yourself. Just around the corner from where we are | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
is the Westway Sport Centre, that is where many families are being helped | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
and Andy is here for us now. Yes, good morning, Charlie. I am | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
actually on a basketball court that has been turned into a clearing | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
space for some of the donations. Just look over my shoulder. Lots of | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
clothing, women's clothing has been piled up and sorted out, and on the | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
other side of defence you can see hundreds of water bottles that have | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
been provided. -- defence. A huge outpouring of generosity. One of | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
them is this man from the Sikh welfare - what have you been able to | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
do? We came here early in the day yesterday, we brought a van full of | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
water, clothing, food, and other essentials that we thought we needed | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
here, so we were here yesterday with volunteers. What made you come down? | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
It is on our doorstep and when something like this happens, you | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
want to see if you can do anything. When we came, there was mayhem, | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
people running around trying to get anything they can to find out - you | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
know, they are putting up people's names that they have lost, has | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
anyone seen them, so if we could help one person it is a different. | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
As we look around we can see piles of donations - what is needed now, | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
is more still needed? I don't think we need more clothing, I think we | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
need more essentials. I think first of all we need to try to rehouse | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
these people. There are empty houses in London. There must be somewhere | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
to rehouse these people. Once all of this razzmatazz is finished, that is | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
when the work will start. Where are people going to go after this? They | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
have lost people, people have died, so they need to start trying to | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
rebuild this life that they have lost. Thank you very much. The | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
message perhaps an off donations, cash donations might be more useful | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
now. Charlie. Thank you very much. So, we will | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
pick up on some of those issues many locally are raising, the safety | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
issues on the cladding and about how the fire spread, we will speak with | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
a chartered surveyor, someone who knows the building well. And we will | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
speak with the Fire Service to update everyone on the situation, | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
including the fire officers who were involved in the heroics as they | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
tried to get people out of the blaze. For the moment, though, from | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
here it is back to the studio. Thank you. | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
The Met Police has set up an emergency number for anyone | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
Let's get some reaction from Westminster on the tragic | :08:49. | :08:59. | |
Our political correspondent Chris Mason joins us. | :09:00. | :09:09. | |
Unsurprisingly, there are questions about safety now being asked. Labour | :09:10. | :09:17. | |
is asking the questions, we are asking these questions. What is the | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
governments reaction to this? The striking things politically about | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
this is that yet again politics had to pause yesterday, yet again | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
politicians have been reflecting on the incredible work of the emergency | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
services. And then of course the question to come in the direction of | :09:36. | :09:38. | |
Westminster and political leaders about what they have done up until | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
now and what they can do in the future. So there was agreement as | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
you would expect from politicians about the scale of the horror and | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
how horrendous that was, and also the work of the emergency services. | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
And then Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, pressing specifically on | :10:00. | :10:01. | |
funding for local government, and whether cutbacks in funding may have | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
had... May have been a contributing factor. The other question on the | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
specifics relates to a review of regulations into fire safety that | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
was promised by the government, in fact, promised by the man who is now | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
the chief of staff to the Prime Minister, Gavin Barwell, a former | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
Housing Minister. There have been suggestions from somebody doesn't | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
come along because the government was keen on cutting back on | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
regulations and red tape rather than adding to them. The line from the | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
government department responsible, the Department for Communities and | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
Local Government, is they are still looking at the review of existing | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
regulations. There has been no attempt to prevent them from being | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
published. Those questions remain and we will talk about that later on | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
as well on Breakfast. There is politics going on as well. There is | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
a government to be formed by Theresa May in terms of a majority | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
government. And there has been a resignation? Yes, so, plenty of | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
politics, something of a pause button for obvious reasons | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
yesterday, though not entirely, given what went on last week in the | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
general election. What is happening today is the Prime Minister is | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
inviting in five political parties from Northern Ireland, all of this | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
trying to ensure that devolved government can return to Northern | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
Ireland after the collapse of that earlier this year. That is a big | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
deal of itself but it is complicated by the fact that the Conservatives | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
are also talking to Northern Ireland's UUP about a deal to ensure | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
Theresa May can be propped up in Downing Street -- DUP. And some feel | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
that deal cannot mean the government can be impartial about matters | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
relating to Northern Ireland. And Tim Farron, leader of the Lib Dems, | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
is resigning. He says he doesn't feel that he can combine his | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
committed Christianity with leading the Liberal Democrats. Lots of | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
difficult questions for him on that during the campaign and the Liberal | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
Democrats didn't make a vast amount of progress in the general election | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
either. He will stand down in month and there will be a leadership race | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
over the summer. Thank you very much for the moment. | :12:21. | :12:22. | |
President Trump is being investigated for possible | :12:23. | :12:24. | |
obstruction of justice, according to the Washington Post. | :12:25. | :12:26. | |
If confirmed, the move by Special Counsel Robert Mueller | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
would mark a turning point in the FBI investigation | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
into Russian interference in last year's presidential election. | :12:32. | :12:33. | |
Mr Trump's lawyer has called the leak of information "outrageous, | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
The Ministry of Defence says it's investigating an accident involving | :12:37. | :12:44. | |
a tank on the Castlemartin firing range in South Pembrokeshire. | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
Officials believe a number of people have been injured. | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
Castlemartin is the only UK Army range normally available | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
There's good news for mobile phone users, | :12:53. | :13:04. | |
-- the Bank of England is deciding today on whether to raise interest | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
rates. Will it follow the footsteps in the US? We have been talking for | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
years about how low interest rates have been and so what you have is a | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
group of economists from Monetary Policy Committee who will meet | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
monthly and look at what's going on in the economy and work out whether | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
they need to increase or decrease the bank base rate in order to | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
change how much we pay for when we borrow money and when we save money. | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
For a long time now it has been at 0.25% since last year but for a long | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
time you're looking at least eight years that it has been historically | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
low, whereas if you compare that to America they have put up interest | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
rates and that is because they feel quite confident about how the | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
economy is going. They think things are picking up so they should | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
increase interest rates. It is the rate that they have at the moment | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
that is between 1% and 1.25%. This is the second time they have done | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
that recently and they expect to do it before Christmas, so people are | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
wondering if we will do it too? It is unlikely because our economy, | :14:15. | :14:23. | |
economists feel, it isn't as strong. It is an interesting point because | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
we often look to America to look what difference it will make for us. | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
Interesting that the economies are so diverging in some sense. Thank | :14:32. | :14:33. | |
you. -- diverted. There's good news for | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
mobile phone users, a European Union law to abolish | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
roaming charges for people using mobile phones abroad | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
comes into force today. The new rules mean that citizens | :14:43. | :14:44. | |
travelling within the EU will be able to call, | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
text and browse the internet on mobile devices at the same | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
price they pay at home. But consumer group "Which?" | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
warns phone users could face if they exceed their | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
plan allowances. Questions are being asked about how | :14:56. | :15:18. | |
the Grenfell Tower fire became so devastating so quickly. We have been | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
told it broke out on the fourth floor but we don't know the cause. | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
People were told it should be contained and it did not. It raises | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
the question, how did it spread so quickly? Some have pointed to the | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
cladding on the outside of the building, but the fire protection | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
agency says when it is properly fitted, it had actually resist fire. | :15:42. | :15:50. | |
There are also questions about how it was fitted. It did not have a | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
sprinkler system as it was built in 1974. There are no legal requirement | :15:56. | :16:04. | |
for them. So, was the advice to stay put correct? Biosafety specialists | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
have told us you need to keep escape routes free of smoke. However, it | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
spread quickly into the escape routes. How have other buildings | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
been affected? It is not the first. In 2009, six people died and | :16:24. | :16:33. | |
apartment block caught fire in Southwark. We can talk to the chair | :16:34. | :16:45. | |
of a fire safety rescue group. Thank you for joining me this morning. | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
What do you think went wrong with yellow this is the most terrible | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
tragedy. My heart goes out to those affected. It is the wrong time for | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
me to point the finger of blame. But our committee was wise before, not | :16:59. | :17:09. | |
after, the event, and have argued time after time sprinklers need to | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
be installed. There should never have happened. The coroner in 2013 | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
said after the Lakanal disaster, sprinklers should be fitted | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
retrospectively. Also, we have waited 11 years for these | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
regulations. The Housing Minister at the time, Gavin Barwell, now Theresa | :17:28. | :17:34. | |
May's Chief of Staff, he was in charge. Have you heard anything from | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
him? These changes did not happen under his watch. Well, it is too | :17:40. | :17:47. | |
early to say precisely what has gone on year. You have only got to look | :17:48. | :17:57. | |
to see we have made countless speeches that sprinklers should be | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
fitted. It is absolutely madness that it is not mandatory. It is | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
impossible to put any amount of money on someone's life. It isn't | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
just this minister or the one before him. It has been very frustrating | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
for our committee. It has taken a tragedy like this to get some | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
attention on the whole issue of sprinklers. I am delighted there | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
will be a proper audit of the 4000 tower blocks. Local authorities and | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
housing associations must immediately make sure all tower | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
blocks have proper safety precautions in place. You have to be | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
delighted after something like this has had to happen and something like | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
this has happened under a Conservative government which you | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
are saying has not committed to the recommendations, safety | :18:51. | :18:52. | |
recommendations, of the people of this country. Well, these | :18:53. | :19:02. | |
recommendations go back to not this government, not the one before, but | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
the one before that. But it is your government that has not reacted to a | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
report in 2013. I apologise for interrupting. It is well to look | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
back, but you have been in charge since 2010. This happened in 2017 in | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
a city dwelling after a report four years ago has not been put in place. | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
Time after time having meetings with officials I think they have been | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
drawn on the fact that the number of deaths have dramatically declined as | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
a result of fires. We warned them something like this would happen. I | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
simply don't understand why no action was taken. I think in time we | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
will get a proper explanation exactly why the decision was taken | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
so long ago not to immediately make sure that local authorities were | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
given the option of retrospectively fitting sprinklers. But I think at | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
the moment I don't want to make matters worse as far as families are | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
concerned. I think we have to wait until there is a full investigation | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
and we do all we possibly can to support the families who are now in | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
absolute despair and still looking for their loved ones. One can only | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
imagine for those families, yes, the situation cannot be made worse | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
because they have lost loved ones, homes, everything. Why are our | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
question is not being made to the former Housing Minister, Gavin | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
Barwell, the Chief of Staff, who has the ear of Theresa May. Why has he | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
not said anything? Have you talked to him? Why has he had such in | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
action? Of course, Parliament has not got together yet. We don't even | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
have a government at the moment. Mr Speaker announced to the House | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
yesterday that the new minister, Nick Heard, was available to discuss | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
the problem with colleagues. She made the immediate announcement she | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
would do everything she can to help the families. I am of no doubt at | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
all that as a matter of urgency, the end her team are trying to get to | :21:13. | :21:21. | |
the bottom of what has happened. -- the Prime Minister and her team. But | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
I don't want to point the finger at anyone. I want to say this is awful | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
and has taken a tragedy to get attention on this issue, that | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
sprinklers save lives and you cannot put any price on someone's life. | :21:35. | :21:45. | |
Thank you. Chairman of the Fire Safety Group. | :21:46. | :21:47. | |
And now for the weather. Quite a warm and muggy start to the day. | :21:48. | :21:59. | |
Through the day, some respite from the heat and humidity. Feeling quite | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
fresh, especially in the west. Sunshine and showers today. The | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
fresh feel is down to the fact we have a cold front working eased | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
through the day allowing fresh air from the Atlantic. That front is | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
bringing a band of cloud with drizzly rain going east. Much of it | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
disappearing by East Anglia and the south-east late in the day. Sunny | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
spells for many of us to be showers in the north-west of the country. | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
Remaining dry. Sunshine for the south-west of England and the south | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
coast. Temperature is not as warm as they were yesterday. 17-18 the | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
south-west. Heading our way further north, more cloud in the Midlands | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
and northern England, the chance of the odd shower developing in the | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
afternoon. More showers in Scotland. Some in the heavy side. The odd | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
rumble of thunder mixed in. Sunshine between those blustery showers. | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
Gusty winds for a time across Northern Ireland. Feeling fresh. | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
Sunny spells and scattered showers. Some showers in the north of Wales. | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
Much of Wales, a dry picture in the afternoon. This evening. Showers in | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
the north go away. Largely dry overnight. Not as hot and muggy as | :23:18. | :23:24. | |
recent nights. First thing tomorrow, temperatures, 12-13. Five degrees | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
more cool than the date. Through tomorrow, largely dry through the | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
country. Cloudy in the north-west. Moving to Scotland through the day. | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
England and Wales in that sunshine, feeling quite pleasant. Temperatures | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
up to 23 degrees or so. The weekend. High pressure keeping hold of the | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
weather, moving in from the south. Weather fronts in the north-west. | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
Rain on Saturday in the north and west of Scotland. Elsewhere, dry, | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
warm, 28 degrees or so to be warming up even more. 30 degrees by Sunday. | :24:00. | :24:10. | |
Back to Charlie in West London now. We are in the shower of Grenfell | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
Tower. You can see it over my shoulder. Interesting to hear about | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
moment ago. In London, there are something like 700 tower blocks | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
above 11 storeys. Many people are asking questions about safety. We | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
are talking about how people are being looked after. | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
The Reverend Mark O'Donoghue is the area dean of Kensington | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
and has been organising volunteers helping some of those who escaped | :24:39. | :24:40. | |
the fire who are taking shelter at St Celment's church. | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
And Sophie Duncan is a local resident who lives close by who had | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
As soon as you step into this area it is obvious the lengths people are | :24:48. | :24:54. | |
going to help one another. In a terrible situation, there is | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
something to cling on to. Since 330 yesterday morning, churches were | :24:58. | :24:58. | |
opening doors all around. They were doing | :24:59. | :25:08. | |
what Jesus Christ would do, opening doors and giving people some want to | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
talk to and pray with, providing food and water and shelter and just | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
providing somewhere to go into away from the chaos. In these desperate | :25:18. | :25:33. | |
hours with the missing, with those not certain what has happened to | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
loved ones, what can you offer them? Christ-like compassion. Someone to | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
listen to their story. I met a chap, he spent the entire day going centre | :25:42. | :25:49. | |
to centre looking for his family. He had been so busy he did not stop all | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
day. I asked if it would help if I prayed with him. He was grateful for | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
that. Has been resolved? We have not yet heard. I hope he finds his two | :26:02. | :26:09. | |
friends. I hope they are safe and well. But he is still looking. In | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
among the compassion, a lot of anger as well. That is focusing on | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
specific decisions about the building we can see still | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
smouldering behind us, the cladding, the reason why it spread so quickly. | :26:25. | :26:31. | |
What can you tell us? Earlier on today we saw stuff everywhere. This | :26:32. | :26:38. | |
is quite likely to be from the external cladding of the building. | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
They will have to be an enquiry to look at it quite candid camera look | :26:44. | :26:54. | |
down on the street to my right? -- Can the. What is that? This is | :26:55. | :27:08. | |
probably the installation from behind the cladding. The BRE, the | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
British Research Establishment, will look into this to see if it was of | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
suitable quality for fires. Was it the correct thing specified? And was | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
it what should have gone into the house? And many people are talking | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
about the advice for those caught up in the crisis. Those upper floors, | :27:26. | :27:32. | |
whether they had to stay or leave. There is some advice given that | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
tends to be given. Evacuate, properties that are alarmed, ones | :27:38. | :27:52. | |
not purpose-built. But in a purpose-built block like this, they | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
are told to stay put. But, the true advice is to stay put unless you are | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
affected by fire and smoke. They were. They should have been | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
evacuated. There needs to be clarification to say stay put simply | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
means a small fire on a flatter the 10th floor does not mean all 12 - 20 | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
- 30 floors have to be evacuated. Thank you for your time and thank | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
you for spending time with us this morning. We will be following up on | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
the fire service a little later on. They will give us the latest | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
information they have. It is worth saying, we were talking about the | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
compassion of the local area, there is a remembrance wall being started. | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
It is very moving. Some personal messages on | :28:42. | :32:12. | |
Welcome back to West London. We are in the shadow of the Grenfell Tower. | :32:13. | :32:27. | |
It is a sobering moment to see it in broad daylight. You get a sense of | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
the scale of the damage done by that devastating fire. If you look | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
closely this morning we can see the smoke which is still coming from the | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
fourth or fifth floor. You could see late last night the flames were | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
clearly visible and this morning we can see some smoke emerging from the | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
building. The charred remains really are very shocking. Of course the | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
questions this morning are over finding the people who are still | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
missing and unaccounted for. Let me take you through the basic | :32:59. | :33:00. | |
information at this point: Police have confirmed | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
12 people dead so far, but that figure is expected | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
to rise significantly. In terms of those getting | :33:06. | :33:15. | |
injured: 34 patients remain in hospital and 18 | :33:16. | :33:17. | |
are in critical care. Lots of people who live in the | :33:18. | :33:26. | |
Grenfell Tower have been looked after locally. In terms of the | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
issues raised, many people here have an increasing sense of anger as | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
people have shown, compassion to those who need help, but also a | :33:36. | :33:38. | |
sense of anger about why this happened with many questions asked | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
about the fire and safety precautions that were or were not in | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
place and earlier on the programme we spoke with Sir David Amis, chair | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
of the all party and Andreev fire safety rescue group, who said the | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
focus now is on those families. At the moment I don't want to make | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
matters worse as far as the families are concerned. I think we have to | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
wait until there is a full investigation and do all that we | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
possibly can to support the families who are now in absolute despair and | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
still looking for their loved ones. Yes, and on the issue of help for | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
those who are here, when we arrived in the morning many people were in | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
the area telling us that lots of water, food, bedding and clothing | :34:24. | :34:26. | |
has been dropped off locally during the night. So much that there are | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
piles waiting to be distributed. As you walk around this busy | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
residential area you can see signs on the wall that said, please, help | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
yourself, there is water if needed. It has been a real feature that has | :34:41. | :34:44. | |
been growing over the last 34 hours of people who have come to help out. | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
Let's hear what people have had to say. | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
When something as horrific as this happens, you either feel despair | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
and hopelessness or you rise above with optimism and a sense | :34:56. | :34:58. | |
of community to come together and support each other. | :34:59. | :35:00. | |
That has been personified here by the community. | :35:01. | :35:02. | |
They have really come out for each other not just by donating | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
what they have in their homes in terms of food and clothing | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
but also being here for the community to provide the moral | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
We are here to provide aid, tackling food security and providing | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
help with provisions, blankets and essential resources | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
to support communities that so desperately need the support. | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
Me and my son went through the whole house, clothes, trainers, | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
shoes, pyjamas, anything I could find that I don't need that | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
sits there I have bagged up and brought down. | :35:27. | :35:37. | |
In terms of the ongoing operation in the building itself, we know from | :35:38. | :35:44. | |
fire officers last night that they were still operating late into the | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
night last night trying to search the building. They did say at that | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
point they had searched most of the building. We will get an update from | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
the Fire Service in the next half an hour. That is coming up. Right now I | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
will hand you back to the studio. Thank you very much. And as the | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
update comes through, we will keep you updated. | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
The Met Police has set up an emergency number for anyone | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
There is other news to bring you: Theresa May will meet political | :36:11. | :36:20. | |
parties from Northern Ireland today at Downing Street. | :36:21. | :36:22. | |
She'll discuss plans to restore power-sharing at Stormont, | :36:23. | :36:24. | |
and try to allay growing concerns about her attempt to secure | :36:25. | :36:32. | |
The backing of the democratic Unionist MPs in parliament. | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
President Trump is being investigated for possible | :36:37. | :36:38. | |
obstruction of justice, according to the Washington Post. | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
If confirmed, the move by Special Counsel Robert Mueller | :36:42. | :36:43. | |
would mark a turning point in the FBI investigation | :36:44. | :36:45. | |
into Russian interference in last year's presidential election. | :36:46. | :36:47. | |
Mr Trump's lawyer has called the leak of information outrageous, | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
The British government needs to do more to improve the well-being | :36:51. | :37:02. | |
The international charity has produced a report examining | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
whether the world's richest countries are meeting | :37:06. | :37:07. | |
internationally-agreed goals for young people. | :37:08. | :37:08. | |
It found that while the UK has made progress dealing with teenage | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
pregnancy and underage drinking, concerns remain over the number | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
We will have the weather in around ten minutes but first it is time to | :37:15. | :37:29. | |
talk about sport and where there are losers, we are feeling the pinch, | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
there are losers - and it wasn't interesting final. | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
It could be Pakistan- India for the second time but England were meant | :37:38. | :37:44. | |
to be there. It was all scripted, apparently. What happened? A lot of | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
head scratching, that's for sure. England's cricketers are out | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
of the Champions Trophy, after a crushing defeat to Pakistan | :37:51. | :37:52. | |
in their semi-final. Eoin Morgan's side had been | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
the favourite for the tournament, but struggled on a slow | :37:56. | :37:57. | |
pitch in Cardiff. Jonny Bairstow, who came | :37:58. | :38:00. | |
into the side, hit 43, but wickets tumbled quickly, | :38:01. | :38:02. | |
including Ben Stokes, who went for 34, without | :38:03. | :38:04. | |
hitting a single boundary. England made just 211, | :38:05. | :38:06. | |
which Pakistan knocked off in less They play either India or Bangladesh | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
in Sunday's final at The Oval. We played against some really good | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
sides recently and we have managed That hasn't gone | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
into our heads at all. In today's game, going in knowing | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
we would play on a used cricket brought Pakistan's game | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
closer to their home. It was a big challenge and one | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
that was too far for us. Southampton are looking | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
for a new manager, after sacking The Frenchman had spent just one | :38:33. | :38:35. | |
season at St Mary's, but during that time guided | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
the Saints to the League Cup Final, where they were narrowly beaten | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
by Manchester United, and he helped them to finish | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
a respectable eighth in the Premier It's been confirmed that the former | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
boxing world champion at five different weights, Floyd Mayweather, | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
will fight the Ultimate Fighting They will meet in a bout | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
in Las Vegas on the 26th of August. 40-year-old Mayweather retired | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
undefeated after winning his 49th straight bout in September 2015, | :38:59. | :39:00. | |
while the 29-year-old Irishman McGregor is the first | :39:01. | :39:02. | |
fighter in the UFC to have held two belts but has never | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
boxed professionally. The contest will take place under | :39:07. | :39:07. | |
normal boxing rules so Mcgregor will have to limit himself | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
to the noble art of just punching. The US Open golf gets under way | :39:11. | :39:20. | |
in Wisconsin this afternoon. Much of the pre-tournament talk has | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
been about the punishing rough, with long grass surrounding | :39:24. | :39:26. | |
many of the fairways. Organisers took the unusual step | :39:27. | :39:28. | |
of cutting some of it back, And this was Lee Westwood on one | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
of his practice rounds retrieving his ball | :39:32. | :39:39. | |
from that rough. Just off the edge of the fairway... | :39:40. | :39:53. | |
I found it! LAUGHTER demonstrating in his own way how long the rough is | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
but Rory McIlroy said that if the players can't keep it on the fairway | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
then they are not good enough to be there. The length of the grass | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
doesn't matter. And when you see them hit the ball and what they are | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
training to do - hitting straight? Could you hit the ball at a grass | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
that high? Could I? You would just take the shot. I would get lost in | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
the grass. We couldn't see over it! Thank you. | :40:22. | :40:22. | |
Tim Farron announced he would be stepping down less than a week | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
There has been criticism of Tim Farron's inability to appeal to | :40:26. | :40:38. | |
white voters. The share of the vote fell. | :40:39. | :40:39. | |
In a statement, he said continued scrutiny of his religious beliefs | :40:40. | :40:42. | |
had been a distraction, obscuring his party's message. | :40:43. | :40:50. | |
There are Christians in politics who take the view that they should | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
impose the tenets of their faith on society. I have not taken that | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
approach because I fundamentally disagree with it. It is not liberal | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
and, actually, counter-productive when it comes to advancing the | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
gospel. Even so I seem to have been the subject of suspicion because of | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
what I believe and who my faith is in. In this case we are kidding | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
ourselves if we think we yet live in a tolerant, liberal society. And | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
that is why I have chosen to step down as leader of the Liberal | :41:24. | :41:25. | |
Democrats. Alistair Carmichael is a Lib Dem MP | :41:26. | :41:25. | |
and former Secretary of State Thank you very much for joining us | :41:26. | :41:36. | |
on BBC Breakfast this morning. Good morning. Did he make the right | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
decision in stepping down? I think he did. If you are not a comfortable | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
in doing the job, if you feel that you are being somehow distracted | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
from doing it, as a modern party leader I think you just can't really | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
allow that. Let's not distract attention away from the fact that in | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
less than two years Tim Farron presided over a quite remarkable | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
revival in the party's fortunes. We have doubled the party membership, | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
we have increased the number of MPs at the general election by 50%, and | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
he has taken us from the political margin again write to the centre of | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
political debate and he has given us political relevance. Yet it has cast | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
doubt on his appointment as leader in the first place. When picking a | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
leader of a political party, how much consideration should be given | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
to his faith? He has said it has clashed and distracted from his | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
political job. I think there are legitimate questions for us all to | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
be asking not just in the Lib Dems about the way in which his faith has | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
been treated in this general election campaign. I have campaign | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
in every general election since 1979. I can never remember questions | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
of theology acquiring this prominence. When we are electing | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
people to parliament, parliament decides what is legal. The general | :42:55. | :43:02. | |
assembly, the Synod of the Church of England will decide what is in full, | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
and that is a distinction we would do well to remember. -- sinful. It | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
is acceptable for a leader to personally believe something is | :43:12. | :43:14. | |
sinful and then extol that it is not sinful in front of the electorate in | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
order to gain votes? Tim Farron's record on equality issues is | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
absolutely impeccable. There is nothing in his voting record in | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
parliament or indeed in his wider conduct in public life which would | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
contradict that. He has never demonstrated bigotry in any way, | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
shape or form. As a Member of Parliament and public figure, that | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
should be enough. It is quite remarkable that he faced these | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
questions time after time after time while others in public life who also | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
claimed to be Christians did not have to face these questions. I | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
think there are some serious questions for the way that the media | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
in particular have treated Tim Farron and his religious beliefs. | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
Let me give you a couple of example is of comments we have had from | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
viewers this morning on social media. Jay said funny how we thought | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
lying to attract votes was OK and even more interesting how he is | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
doing this now rather than before the election result. Jerome Cousin | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
is as a gay man I couldn't vote Lib Dem because it was obvious Tim | :44:20. | :44:22. | |
Farron was completed. Politics and religion need to be separate. | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
Picking up on the point, the timing of the announcement has been in some | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
ways quite peculiar. Was he pushed? No, he wasn't. I was at the meeting | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
of the parliamentary party yesterday afternoon when he made the | :44:36. | :44:41. | |
announcement I think while all Lib Dem colleagues were in at the time | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
and we were all surprised. He caught us cold but there was nothing but | :44:48. | :44:51. | |
support for him in the room. There are ten Lib Dem MPs. Know, 11 of us. | :44:52. | :45:03. | |
12, including yourself. Who should be the next leader in your opinion? | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
Joe Swinson served as deputy leader, Sir Vince Cable, the voice of | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
experience, Ed Davey, Norman Lamb, who are you going for? I will have | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
that conversation with my colleagues in the next couple of days, but you | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
are right to highlight that although we are very small as a parliamentary | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
party, we have some of the biggest hitters in parliament amongst the 12 | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
and we are exceptionally fortunate that the richness of the trees that | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
we have. That is something for which the party should take into Regiment | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
in future. Thank you very much for your time this morning. | :45:39. | :45:49. | |
The weather. Good morning. A monkey and warm start to the day for many | :45:50. | :46:03. | |
of us. -- muggy. Through the day, things will feel more fresh. Plenty | :46:04. | :46:10. | |
of sunshine. A few showers as well. Through the day, a cold front will | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
go west to east, opening the door for the fresh air to come in from | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
the west. This cloud and drizzly rain will fizzle out as it goes east | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
towards East Anglia. The south-west later on. Showers in Scotland and | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
Northern Ireland. Further south across the country, dry through the | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
day. The south-west of England, not as hot. 17-18. The south-east, warm | :46:39. | :46:45. | |
and muggy for the first part of the day. 24 degrees. Fresh during the | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
afternoon when the front goes east. Cloudy in the Midlands and northern | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
England. Spells of sunshine. Isolated showers. More showers in | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
Scotland. Equally, dry and bright weather in between. If you catch one | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
of those showers, quite sharp and heavy. The odd rumble of thunder. | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
Windy with showers in Northern Ireland that the temperatures there | :47:10. | :47:15. | |
in the mid-to-high teens. Sunshine and a few showers in the north of | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
Wales in north-west England. Showers to the north tends to fade away | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
through the overnight period. The early hours Friday. Most places will | :47:23. | :47:31. | |
dry. Crash. 12- 30 degrees. -- Fresh. Five degrees cooler than | :47:32. | :47:38. | |
today. Cloud in the west of the country. Rain for Northern Ireland | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
pushing the Scotland. Further south, dry once again. In the sunshine, a | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
pleasant day. Temperatures between 15 in Glasgow to 17 in London. High | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
pressure will stick around into the weekend. It will keep weather fronts | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
at bay. A weather front of the north-west. Saturday, wet and windy | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
weather across the far north west of Scotland. For the rest of the | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
country, a dry and warm day. 28 degrees towards the south-east. It | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
will feel quite hot. Sunday. Warming up even more. By Sunday afternoon, | :48:14. | :48:22. | |
temperatures up to 30 degrees. Slightly cooler with outbreaks of | :48:23. | :48:25. | |
rain in the far north-west of Scotland. Looking like a hot weekend | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
to come. Temperatures will rise into the new week. Back to you, Charlie. | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
This is West London. Those blue skies contrasting to the image | :48:35. | :48:45. | |
behind me. A shocking image. Broad daylight. Some smoke still emerging | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
from what looks like the lower floors. The charred remains of the | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
tower block itself. Several things emerging this morning. One is the | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
help and compassion of people. So many people rallying around to help | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
out those caught in this crisis. The other thing emerging is those | :49:05. | :49:10. | |
messages. It is those missing and unaccounted for at the moment in | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
that desperate situation people are in at the moment as people try to | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
locate loved ones. You can see the tribute wall, a remembrance wall, | :49:20. | :49:25. | |
just around the corner. Messages for individuals who people know have | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
been killed. There are other messages of support. It is moving | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
standing there and people are adding messages this morning. Now for the | :49:36. | :49:48. | |
practical matters. This is a chartered surveyor. Good morning. | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
Good morning. First of all, there are so many questions to do with how | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
the fire spread so quickly. Can you give us initial thoughts? First of | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
all, you think about the people and then the reasons behind it. How and | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
why did it start? How did it spread so quickly? What was the influence | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
of the refurbishment? More importantly, what can we learn from | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
it and how quickly can we do it? Already on the programme this | :50:20. | :50:22. | |
morning, many people are asking questions about accidents like this | :50:23. | :50:29. | |
that have happened before to be I called it an accident, but people | :50:30. | :50:37. | |
have said it is avoidable. People said that recommendations after | :50:38. | :50:44. | |
Southwark in 2009 were not implemented. The reason is because | :50:45. | :50:51. | |
things like this don't happen often. It is not something to be | :50:52. | :50:57. | |
celebrated. Was it the combination of circumstances that led to this? | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
We need to find a quickly. Anyone who knows this area well, you look | :51:02. | :51:04. | |
around and have the charred remains of a tower block. Move the camera | :51:05. | :51:10. | |
around to our right. You can see that building is replicated. There | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
are two in shot. In many centres in the UK, there are tower blocks | :51:16. | :51:21. | |
similar to this. How can anyone in those buildings have confidence in | :51:22. | :51:26. | |
the building they are living in bearing in mind what has happened | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
here? Sadly, when something like this happens, people look up | :51:30. | :51:33. | |
procedures affecting their Rome buildings. They can be more modest. | :51:34. | :51:39. | |
-- their own. They can think about what would happen if, tragically, | :51:40. | :51:46. | |
similar circumstances arose. That is a good thing in a way. We look at | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
those things differently than we did before and try to learn quickly from | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
those mistakes. In terms of being official, we know groups living here | :51:55. | :52:00. | |
had raised fears over a long period of time and say they were not | :52:01. | :52:07. | |
listened to. Do you think this time around that issues will be addressed | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
properly? Because the concern is when a report comes out, people will | :52:12. | :52:20. | |
read it but nothing will change. The idea of a fire in buildings like | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
this is if it starts in one building, it should stay that, and | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
it should be that it does not spread elsewhere so fatalities are kept to | :52:31. | :52:38. | |
a minimum. That is the first point. Of course, the balding work has been | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
done in the design of the building and whether it is appropriate given | :52:43. | :52:47. | |
what has happened in the future. -- building. Thank you very much. We | :52:48. | :52:51. | |
will be back you through the morning. It is worth saying just | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
after eight o'clock we will speak to the fire service for any updates | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
they have captured his and the situation with the building itself. | :52:59. | :53:09. | |
-- they have on this and the situation. | :53:10. | :53:09. | |
The days of bringing back a massive mobile bill from a European holiday | :53:10. | :53:12. | |
From today roaming charges are being dropped across the EU. | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
New rules come into force today which mean | :53:17. | :53:19. | |
if you travel to an EU country and use your mobile phone you'll be | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
charged the same as if you were here in the UK. | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
So you won't be hit with extra charges for making calls, | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
sending texts or using data on line as long as it's in your plan. | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
These new rules have been a long time in the making, | :53:34. | :53:36. | |
after years of complaints that customers have been getting ripped | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
Hannah Maundrell is the editor in chief of the comparison website, | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
She is with us now. Good morning. This is great news for people using | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
mobiles abroad. It is such a pain when you get back and realise you | :53:50. | :53:53. | |
have been charged for so many things he did not realise were going to be | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
added to your bill. What are the caveats? This is good for people | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
going to the EU this summer that the we have seen costs spiral everywhere | :54:03. | :54:09. | |
else. It means you will not be charged extra in the EU, Iceland, | :54:10. | :54:16. | |
Norway, etc. But you do need to remember that it is not free calls. | :54:17. | :54:22. | |
It is the same usage you get back home. If you go over the allowance | :54:23. | :54:26. | |
in your contract, you will be charged more. If you are on an | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
unlimited data deal, it could be tapped overseas. If you are on a | :54:34. | :54:45. | |
cheap deal that is less than ?3 a gig, it could be different. It only | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
applies to 28 EU countries and a few others. Look at Turkey, a Rocca, the | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
USA, anywhere else, first, because you could be stung by bills that are | :54:56. | :55:03. | |
not included. -- Morocco. People are asking what will happen if we leave | :55:04. | :55:09. | |
the EU? Without a crystal ball, we do not know. It will be up for | :55:10. | :55:14. | |
discussion. It will not be top of the negotiation table. It is | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
possible a new arrangement could be agreed. We don't know at this stage. | :55:19. | :55:23. | |
What we do know is that they will apply until we leave the EU. If you | :55:24. | :55:30. | |
are holidaying in the EU, you can enjoy it. Could it mean you can get | :55:31. | :55:37. | |
a deal with a Spanish provider if they are cheaper and use it here | :55:38. | :55:41. | |
like a normal phone? If only that was the case. You need to use your | :55:42. | :55:47. | |
phone in your home country. If you use it more here, then that is the | :55:48. | :55:57. | |
network. If you use it more overseas, the network would find | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
out. They will monitor it. You need to keep an eye on it that be the | :56:02. | :56:06. | |
same said if you are travelling for a longer period. -- on it. You need | :56:07. | :56:16. | |
to keep a look at that. Thank you very much. That is it for me for | :56:17. | :56:24. | |
now. We will keep you updated on the events following the tragic fire in | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
West London at Grenfell Tower. Charlie is bringing you the latest. | :56:30. | :59:50. | |
Hello, this is Breakfast, with Charlie Stayt in West London. | :59:51. | :59:58. | |
The desperate search continues to find the missing | :59:59. | :00:00. | |
Over 24 hours on from the blaze, 12 people are known to have died. | :00:01. | :00:07. | |
Scores more are still unaccounted for. | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
We don't know if they're alive or dead, | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
or if they're in hospital or not, we have not any clues. | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
The Prime Minister promises a full investigation | :00:21. | :00:21. | |
On the ground, there's anger that warnings may have been ignored. | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
People trapped in that tower, knowing that the people | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
that were supposed to look after them didn't care about them. | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
Many spent the night in emergency shelters, | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
to support people left without homes and basic needs. | :00:37. | :00:59. | |
Good morning, it's Thursday 15th June. | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
On Breakfast today, we'll bring you the latest on the fire, | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
and we'll be asking how a tragedy like this | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
could have struck in the heart of the capital. | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
Also this morning, Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron steps down | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
from the post saying he's torn between his Christian faith | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
The days of coming home to a big mobile bill | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
after a European holiday should now be over. | :01:21. | :01:22. | |
From today, roaming charges are being dropped across the EU. | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
In sport, England's hopes of winning the Champions Trophy are over. | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
Eoin Morgan's men were favourites to win the tournament, | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
in their semifinal in Cardiff by eight wickets. | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
Good morning, a muddy start, but things will feel fresh and through | :01:39. | :01:50. | |
the day, a mix of sunshine and showers, all the details for you in | :01:51. | :01:51. | |
about 15 minutes. Good morning, I'm in West London, | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
more than 24 hours after fire swept through the Grenfell Tower | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
behind me, you can still see and the Fire Services at work | :02:01. | :02:02. | |
around the remains. Late last night, you may have seen | :02:03. | :02:17. | |
the images against the dark night sky, you could see flames inside. | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
But it really is a devastating, sobering sight this morning, the | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
smouldering carcass of the building itself. Let's bring you up to date | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
with the latest we have in terms of information on fatalities and | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
casualties. Police have confirmed that 12 people are dead, but they | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
have also said that figure is expected to rise significantly. 34 | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
patients, in all, remain in hospital. Of those, 18 are in | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
critical care. We will be speaking to the Fire Service in the next ten | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
minutes or so here on Breakfast to get the very latest information for | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
you. Locally, hundreds of families are without homes because of the | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
building fire, and many people have been helping out, bringing produce, | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
bringing water and blankets for those in need. Let's get the very | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
latest now from Andy Moore. The official death toll | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
is expected to rise, but even so it is outstripped | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
by the number of the missing. These are some of their faces - | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
whole families are unaccounted for, many of them lived | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
on the top floors. This woman was searching | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
local hospitals for her friend | :03:32. | :03:32. | |
and three children. We don't know if there are alive | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
or dead, or if they're in hospital or not, we have not any clues, | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
just waiting and hoping. As dusk fell, nearly 18 hours | :03:39. | :03:40. | |
after the blaze started, there were still pockets of fire | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
inside the tower block. The Prime Minister promised | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
there would be a full inquiry Of course, once the scene is secure, | :03:49. | :03:50. | |
once the recovery is complete, then an investigation will take | :03:51. | :03:58. | |
place into the cause of the fire and if there are any | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
lessons to be learned. Witnesses say the fire | :04:03. | :04:04. | |
spread rapidly, apparently through the new cladding | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
on the outside of the block, how the foam insulation used | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
in some cladding can catch fire. The actual rigid-board insulation | :04:12. | :04:23. | |
that I believe is most likely to have been used is made from | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
the same material, polyurethane. and this is the rate | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
at which it burns. and this is a typical material used | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
for insulating external buildings. The firm that carried out | :04:34. | :04:43. | |
the refurbishment said it had met all building control, | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
fire regulation, A later statement removed a section | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
about meeting fire regulations. The Government is sufficiently | :04:48. | :04:56. | |
worried to order checks on any tower blocks that have | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
undergone a similar refurbishment. Some residents of Grenfell Tower | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
had to resort to ropes made of blankets and sheets | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
to escape the burning building. There are many questions | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
to be answered. Why was there no sprinkler system? | :05:11. | :05:13. | |
Did the alarms work? Is the stay-put policy | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
the right advice? There are 4000 tower | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
blocks in the UK. This terrible fire will cause | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
a fundamental rethink about Andy is with me now, you have spent | :05:23. | :05:46. | |
30 hours here, in your hand, and I made reference to this, there are | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
lots of these pieces, it is like charcoal, isn't it? Yes, you saw in | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
my report what happens when the lightweight insulating foam is | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
satellite, you apply some heat, and then it does burn, and this is that | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
lightweight insulating foam. It has blown on the wind from the tower | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
behind us, this is the cladding that is being blamed for the spread of | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
the fire. And that is just flaking away. It looks quite solid, but it | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
just breaks up, doesn't it? This is lightweight insulating material. The | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
problem is, this cladding material may be fire resistant, but it is | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
charred all the way through, it does catch light, and this is the sort of | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
material that is on dozens of high-rises here in the UK, hundreds | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
if not thousands around the world, and we have seen how it can burn, | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
how it can transmit the fire. What is going to happen to this foam now | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
on these buildings? Is it going to have to be removed? Are those | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
buildings safe to live in? We had a wake-up call with the Lakmal house | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
fire some years ago, 2009 in South London, when cladding like this was | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
blamed for the spread of the fire. -- Lakanal House. Six people died, | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
it seemed that we did not learn the lesson. But we claim this will be a | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
sea change in our attitude to this sort of cladding, this insulating | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
foam. Of two sides to this story, the practicalities that you were | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
talking about, the people here and the desperate search for those who | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
are unaccounted for. I know you have been spending time with some of the | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
families were homeless because of the fire. That is right, and the | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
search for the missing goes on. Only this morning I saw a poster placed | :07:30. | :07:36. | |
on the windscreen of a car, an appeal for information about a | :07:37. | :07:38. | |
19-year-old girl that was missing. Lots of people are searching | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
hospitals for information about loved ones. We do not know the | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
numbers, but it seems perhaps dozens of people are missing, whole | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
families, as I said in my report, families of six, families of five, | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
three generations of the same family, all missing, unaccounted | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
for. Many of them, sadly, were on the top floors of the building. The | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
firefighters are in there, trying to search through the building, but we | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
have heard it will be a very long and complicated process. As Andy was | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
saying, we are getting some updates from the Fire Service, saying they | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
thought they had searched most of the building. It is worth saying, in | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
a round about five minutes also, we will be speaking live to the Fire | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
Service to get the very latest update on the situation. For the | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
moment, from West London, back to the studio. | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
Let's get some reaction from Westminster | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
Morning, Chris. Earlier we spoke to Chris Mason joins us. | :08:39. | :08:47. | |
Morning, Chris. Earlier we spoke to the chairman of the all-party fire | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
rescue group, he said meetings would be taking place to look into the | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
safety aspects of this, and this is why Labour is calling for an urgent | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
look at the safety precautions and Whitemoor was not done. | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
Yes, he made it very clear that his view is that the Government ought to | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
have done more in the past. The current government, the previous one | :09:08. | :09:17. | |
as well, particularly with the installation of sprinklers in older | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
buildings, where they were not put in when it was built. There are | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
searching questions for the Government coming from that | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
committee and elsewhere, from former senior fire officer is, for | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
instance, saying that the desire to cut back on regulation, in their | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
view, has perhaps stood in the way of refreshing the necessary rules | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
around fire safety in tower blocks. Particular questions coming the way | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
of Gavin Barwell. He was a housing minister until just last week, then | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
he lost his seat, and within hours he was appointed as the Prime | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
Minister's chief of staff. There are questions as to whether a review | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
that the Government promised in fire safety regulations has been anyway | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
repressed all sat on by the Government. It insists it has not, | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
that the work to do with those regulations is ongoing, but you can | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
imagine those questions will continue now, given what happened | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
yesterday. Of course, our thoughts are with the fire, but politics | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
continues - after maybe a brief pause because of recent tragic | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
events, we had Theresa May negotiating with the DUP, and I | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
wonder how surprisingly resignation is. Yes, very striking, isn't it, | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
that fought the third time in just a few weeks, politics causing almost | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
yesterday because of the tower block fire? Politicians yet again | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
reflecting on the incredible work of the emergency services. A couple of | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
big things still going on politically, the Government trying | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
to stitch together a with the Democratic Unionist Party, to try to | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
ensure they have a majority of the Conservatives plus the DUP, and the | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
Prime Minister inviting in five political parties from Northern | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
Ireland, one after another today, all part of the attempt to restore | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
devolved government to Northern Ireland. Some are concerned with | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
this idea of the Conservatives and the DUP working together, suggesting | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
that the Government in Westminster would not be able to be impartial as | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
far as Northern Ireland is concerned. And the Tim Farron, | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
leader of the Liberal Democrats, is resigning, stepping down in about a | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
month's time. You remember he got all those awkward questions during | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
the election campaign about how he squared his Christianity with | :11:36. | :11:37. | |
leading a party with the word liberal in the title, questions | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
about gay sex and whether he thought it was a sin. The Liberal Democrats | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
made some progress at the general election in terms of seats, but not | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
a vast amount, and he has decided he cannot square leadership with these | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
religious convictions, so we will step down in the summer, and there | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
will be a leadership race. OK, Chris, thank you very much for the | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
moment. Chris Mason there. President Trump | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
is being investigated for possible obstruction of justice, | :12:05. | :12:05. | |
according to the Washington Post. If confirmed, the move | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
by Special Counsel Robert Mueller would mark a turning point | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
in the FBI investigation into Russian interference in last | :12:11. | :12:12. | |
year's presidential election. Mr Trump's lawyer | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
has called the leak of information "outrageous, inexcusable | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
and illegal." There's good news | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
for mobile phone users. A European Union law to abolish | :12:25. | :12:26. | |
roaming charges for people using mobile phones abroad | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
comes into force today. The new rules mean that citizens | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
travelling within the EU will be able to call, | :12:32. | :12:33. | |
text and browse the internet on mobile devices at | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
the same price they pay at home. But consumer group Which warns phone | :12:37. | :12:38. | |
users could face unexpected charges if they exceed | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
their plan allowances. The new rules mean citizens | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
travelling within the EU will be able to call, text and browse the | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
internet at the same price they do at home. | :12:54. | :12:55. | |
It is a big day for all consumers across Europe, and mobile operators | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
as well. Essentially, in simple terms, the mobile operators have | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
been told they are not allowed to charge any extra when their | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
customers travel to EU destinations. There is a little bit of confusion | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
in terms of what is included. The time now is 30 minutes past eight, | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
that brings you date with the main news, but our main focus is the | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
aftermath of the tragic fire at Grenfell Tower in west London which | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
has already claimed 12 lives, many people critically ill in hospital, | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
and still many people missing as well. Charlie is in west London for | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
us, outside the tower, taking stock, as questions are now asked about | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
safety. Charlie. It is very sobering in the bright | :13:43. | :13:51. | |
sunshine of a Thursday morning, looking at the wrecked carcass of | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
the building here. I think if you look at some of the images we are | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
seeing this morning, what has become apparent today is that there is | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
still some smoke emerging from the building. It would appear to be from | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
the lower levels of the building. And you can see the black and | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
carcass of the building itself, this morning very much the focus is on | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
those missing and still unaccounted for. So many people we have spoken | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
to on the ground have been coming up to us, talking about those people | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
who have yet to be accounted for. We know the police have confirmed that | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
12 people have died so far, but it is also clear, they have made a very | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
clear, that they expect that number to rise. We are going to get the | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
latest from the Fire Service now, we can speak to Dany Cotton, the | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
commissioner of the London Fire Brigade, thank you for your time at | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
this busy time, can you update us with the latest information you | :14:48. | :14:48. | |
have? Still some smoke coming from the | :14:49. | :14:57. | |
building as you can see behind me, due to the fact that on the upper | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
floors, some very small pockets of fire remaining. Due to the nature of | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
the building at the moment, we are not sending firefighters in there | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
because it is not structurally, you know, safe for them to go to the | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
edges of the building. While we have been doing over night watching | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
briefs and firefighting from inside the central part of the building, we | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
do not want to put any firefighters at risk. There will still be some | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
smoke coming from the building. The plan going forward for today is, | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
along with structural layers and the local authority, I have my urban | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
search and rescue team coming down to make an assessment of the | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
building. To look at ways that we can shore up the building, to enable | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
us, and the police and DVI to continue the search. 24 residential | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
floors, how many of those have your office has been able to search so | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
far? We have been able to do a very brief search of all floors, we have | :15:57. | :16:03. | |
been up as far as the 24th floor. That has not extended up to the | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
wider area of all the floors, due to the severity of the fire and all the | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
fire debris spread across the floors, it will be a difficult and | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
painstaking process to search through systematically. There is | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
still a number of flaws which will require a thorough search for us to | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
be able to make sure there are no further people involved in this | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
fire. -- a number of flaws. But we anticipate there may be people | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
involved in the upper floors. -- a number of floors. Tell us a little | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
more about that, many people still so concerned about those missing and | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
unaccounted for, what information you getting from offices inside the | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
building? Inside the building obviously, terribly difficult, it is | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
very difficult for people to comprehend, when they look at a | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
building, while we cannot go in there and see it. Obviously, due to | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
the severity of the fire and what happens in those circumstances, | :16:59. | :17:00. | |
everything inside all of those rooms basically ends up on the floor, in | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
large amounts of volume of staff. Combined with the amount of water in | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
there, it becomes very difficult for officers to get in there, in order | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
to do a systematic and proper search we need to make it safe so that a | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
number of officers can go in there and go through it. We are aware | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
there are people unaccounted for, obviously family and friends who are | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
very distressed and need to know the whereabouts of their loved ones. We | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
are doing everything we can to work as hard as we can with police and | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
other colleagues to make that happen. Can you tell us a little | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
more about the immediate aftermath, when officers first arrived, what | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
were they able to do at that stage, which levels were they able to | :17:41. | :17:48. | |
reach? Very early on in the fire, my firefighters, battled through | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
intense heat, to reach some of the very high floors, I spoke with the | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
crew last night, the 20th floor, they had got that far, looking for | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
people. We specifically targeted flats where we were getting calls | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
where we knew where people work. As the commission of the London Fire | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
Brigade, I have to say it was a stressful and difficult time, I was | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
looking at a building engulfed in fire, I knew that members of the | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
public were still trapped, I was committing hundreds of firefighters | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
into a building that to a lot of people looked terribly unsafe. My | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
firefighters were desperate to get in there and desperate to rescue | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
people and we committed crew after crew into a very dangerous, very hot | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
and dangerous situation, as we have a passion to do as much as we could | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
to rescue people in there. Very challenging, difficult and traumatic | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
event for everyone involved. Have any of your officers been injured? | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
We had minor injuries yesterday, up to nine of my firefighters suffered | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
minor burns, heat exhaustion, due to the intensity in the building, and | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
the hard work, and some slips and trips. There was debris falling | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
everywhere. I'm more concerned longer term about the mental impact | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
on a lot of people who were here, because this event was unprecedented | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
and people saw and heard things on a scale they had never seen before. | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
Going forward, one of my main concerns for firefighters is about | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
mental well-being and doing trauma care and counselling for them. I | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
understand the point you made about the difficult circumstances the | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
officers are working in. The figure of those confirmed dead, the police | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
figure, so far, 12 confirmed dead, they have warned they expect that | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
figure to rise significantly. What more can you add to that? | :19:34. | :19:40. | |
Unfortunately, this is the awful thing for the people involved, we | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
are unaware of how may people are in the building, as you can appreciate, | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
this is a very large building with a large number of people in there. | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
Some people may have lived alone, we are not sure if they are in there | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
way with friends and family. People who were reported missing who | :19:56. | :19:58. | |
subsequently may have been with rest centres and hospitals. We are | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
completely unaware of, we can only work with numbers in the local | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
authority and police who seem to be missing. As soon as we can, we will | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
go into the building and do the painstaking fingertip search in | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
conjunction with the police and the TVI. -- DVI. Investigations will be | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
ongoing but locally, we are speaking with so many people who are asking | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
questions about why the fire spread so quickly, what can you tell us so | :20:25. | :20:32. | |
far, from what you have seen? What I can tell you in my professional | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
capacity is that I have never seen a fire like this in my career, the | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
fire spread very quickly, you will appreciate, far too early to | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
speculate about the cause of that. There will be a thorough | :20:46. | :20:47. | |
investigation which the fire brigade will take part in and we will give | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
professional advice too. At this moment in time, I do not want to | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
speculate. We are still in the rescue phase of the operation, | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
trying to identify who's missing, and trying to make sure this | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
building is safe. That is the priority. Thank you very much for | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
joining us today, London Fire Brigade Commissioner, giving us the | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
latest, Dany Cotton. Talking about the building and the work of her | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
officers. We will be here in West London throughout the remainder of | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
the programme. Take a break from events here, we will look at the | :21:24. | :21:24. | |
weather. Warm humid start to the day for many | :21:25. | :21:32. | |
of us but as we had through the day, things turning fresher, a day of | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
sunny spells and scattered showers. The fresher air is drawn in behind a | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
cold front working in from the Atlantic. Very weak frontal system. | :21:42. | :21:49. | |
Ringing cloud and drizzle across many parts of the country. Midlands, | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
further south, rain petering out, a band of cloud heading east, find | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
that, from the West, fresher air moving in, bringing showers, | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
particularly from Northern Ireland and Scotland, much of England and | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
Wales stays dry through into the afternoon. Plenty of sunshine across | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
Evan and Cornwall, temperatures 17, 18 degrees. Across the south-east of | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
England and East Anglia, 23, 20 4 degrees, early on, before things | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
turn fresher, after the cold front through the afternoon. Patchy cloud | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
through the Midlands, if you showers cropping up, more in the way of | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
showers across parts of Scotland. Some sunshine in between the showers | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
but if you catch one, could be heavy, potentially the odd rumble of | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
thunder mixed in as well. Some is sharp showers across Northern | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
Ireland, sharp wind in and around the shower, and the odd shower | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
across Wales, but much of it stays dry, and in the sunshine a pleasant | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
enough day. Through the course of the evening and overnight, most | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
showers ease away in the north, largely dry, cloudy, drizzly rain. | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
Temperatures will be lower than they were last night, 12 to 13 degrees, | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
quite sticky and quite muddy overnight. Through the day tomorrow, | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
outbreaks of rain initially for Northern Ireland, creeping in across | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
parts of Scotland and Northern Ireland, for the rest of the UK, a | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
dry day. More cloud than there has been, but in the sunshine, towards | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
the south, 23, 20 4 degrees. High pressure really drives the weather | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
as we move through Friday night, on into the weekend as well. Weather | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
front lingering in the far north-west, high-pressure stopping | :23:31. | :23:32. | |
them progressing across the country. A bit of rain, a bit breezy, in the | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
far north-west, elsewhere, a dry day on Saturday, light wind, 28 degrees. | :23:38. | :23:47. | |
-- 23, 24 degrees. Hot weather developing over the weekend, as high | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
as 30 degrees, and a little rain in the north-west. | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
Welcome back to west London, in the shadow of what remains of Grenfell | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
Tower and it is worth taking a moment this morning to look at the | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
images, as you look at it now, you can see there is still some smoke | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
emerging from what looks like the lower floors, since the time we have | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
been here, if anything, you would think there is a little more smoke. | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
Images late last night in the darkness, you could see fires raging | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
in some parts of the building. But it is a blackened structure now. | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
Just hearing from the Fire Service about the operation ongoing, very | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
difficult circumstances for the officers to work in, clearly, and | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
for local people and for those in the building, desperate situation | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
now, trying to find those missing and unaccounted for. With me now, a | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
man who lived very close. Piers Thompson lives close | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
by and is helping his friend I know that sometimes it sounds | :24:52. | :25:01. | |
cliched but there is a real spirit, it is remarkable how people have | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
rallied around. This has always been a strong community, but up against | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
the railway and the motorway, recently the council have unveiled | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
plans to demolish this whole area. So what was already a strong | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
community has come together even more with big public meetings, | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
talking to each other... Discussing the issues. I have just been | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
speaking with one or two people, almost everyone has a connection | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
with someone who lived in the building, I know that you have | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
people who lived in the building. I would like to thank Fire Brigade, on | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
the floor, yesterday, they say the friend of -- the life of my friend, | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
he was stumbling around in the dark. -- they saved the life of my friend. | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
One family lives over there, their mum lives there in the tower. The | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
way the town will work, people were in and out of people's flats the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
whole time, that is one of the problems that people have had, they | :25:59. | :26:00. | |
do not quite know where people were, in the building. But it is a strong | :26:01. | :26:07. | |
community, and we keep having external pressures bringing us | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
together. This is the last straw. One of the things I have noticed, in | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
among the awful things happening, does not seem like much but so much | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
debris, around, in your garden near, I noticed it, pieces of charcoal, | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
which experts are telling us are bits of the cladding. They have | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
fallen from the building. That is the insulation. Looks like a fake | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
volcano erupted and there is policy director love everywhere. That is | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
obviously terrible. -- and there is polystyrene lava everywhere. We will | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
have a tragic roll of the people, people who did not make it out of | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
the building. -- tragic roll call. This community is going to be | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
devastated. We will leave it there. The search for the missing and | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
unaccounted for continues. We will have more coverage from here in West | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
London a little bit later. Now, the news, travel and | :27:03. | :30:35. | |
Welcome back to West London, if we show you the images against the | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
bright blue skies this morning, Grenfell Tower, the scene of the | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
dreadful fire in which it has been confirmed that 12 people died, and | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
you can see this morning as we look at the tower, there is still some | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
smoke emerging from what looks like the lower floors of the building. In | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
terms of the numbers, we know that the police are saying there are | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
likely to be many more fatalities in the fire itself, | :31:02. | :31:14. | |
65 people rescued by the Fire Service, we had an update in the | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
last few minutes from Dany Cotton, the Commissioner of the London Fire | :31:18. | :31:19. | |
Brigade. Many people so concerned about those missing and as yet | :31:20. | :31:20. | |
unaccounted for. We have been able to do a very brief | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
search of all fours, we have been up to the 24th floor but that has not | :31:26. | :31:29. | |
extended out across all floors and due to the severity of the fire and | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
the amount of fire debris spread across those flaws, it will be a | :31:33. | :31:36. | |
very difficult and painstaking process to search through | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
systematically, so there are still a number of flaws that will require a | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
thorough search for us to be able to make sure there are no further | :31:44. | :31:45. | |
people involved in this buyer. Those searches on going, that is | :31:46. | :31:53. | |
Dany Cotton, the commission of the fire brigade. We asked if she could | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
shed any more light on whether there may be more fatalities and she said | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
that, in these awful circumstances, they were not able to do that | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
because of the conditions that officers are working in, so the | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
figures we have at the moment remain the same while their work goes on. | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
Andy Moore, our correspondent, is with me. You have been here since | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
the beginning, London Fire Brigade talking about the circumstances they | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
are working in, how hard it has been to work both initially and now | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
within the building? Yes, I was here from about 2am | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
yesterday morning when the block was completely ablaze, and we now know | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
that, even at that stage, firefighters were inside that | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
building. I couldn't conceive of anybody being alive inside the | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
building at any stage but we know that firefighters with breathing | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
apparatus were going inside, trying to rescue people, and they have been | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
doing that all along. They are in there now trying to get, they | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
managed to get even to the top floor, they say they have managed to | :32:59. | :33:01. | |
get to the top floor but have not been able to thoroughly searched the | :33:02. | :33:10. | |
entire building to find all the casualties, they said that will be a | :33:11. | :33:12. | |
very long, complex process. There were fears yesterday night the | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
building would collapse, we all saw the images of the towers collapsing | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
at 9/11, I saw the building alight and I certainly thought it might | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
collapse at any stage, now we know there were firefighters in there | :33:24. | :33:26. | |
trying to rescue people. Indeed, Dany Cotton saying a small | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
number of them did need medical assistants, presumably because of | :33:32. | :33:34. | |
smoke inhalation and other issues. You have been spending time here | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
talking to people this morning, in amongst these dreadful situations, | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
the search for the missing and those unaccounted for, | :33:43. | :33:53. | |
continues. The way this community has reacted is extraordinary, you | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
can see just over that, as you look around, piles of things that people | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
have left on walls outside houses with notes said, please help | :34:00. | :34:01. | |
yourself. It is a real feature of what has happened here. | :34:02. | :34:03. | |
Yes, I have been at the basketball court a few hundred yards away and | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
it is full of donations, bags that have not been opened yet, people are | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
trying to go through it, sorting out children's clothes, there are dozens | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
of pairs of shoes, gallons of water that has been donated. People have | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
been incredibly generous, but I think the message this morning is, | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
you have done a fantastic job, thank you very much for what you have | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
given us, I know Breakfast viewers have been calling insane, what can | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
we do, where can we take donations? I think the message this morning is, | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
we have got enough, thank you very much, perhaps consider helping in | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
some other way, perhaps a cash donation would be useful. | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
Worth mentioning in amongst the compassion shown by some people | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
there is a real sense of anger about those outstanding questions, about | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
why the fire spread so quickly, why people were given advice to stay | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
when possibly they should have tried to get out themselves? | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
Yes, certainly, the BBC was standing here yesterday lunchtime conducting | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
an interview with the head of the local council and after that | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
interview was finished some people were shouting, there is blood on | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
your hands. Certainly a lot of people are blaming the local council | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
who, in the end, are the owners of the building, and the management | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
company that run it, there were a lot of complaints over the years, | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
people very angry, especially about this cladding, this insulating | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
material that seems to have caused so many problems in this building. | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
We know it has been used in hundreds, | :35:30. | :35:49. | |
maybe thousands of buildings around the world, people now I think will | :35:50. | :35:51. | |
have to reconsider what we do with that cladding. | :35:52. | :35:53. | |
It may be fire resistant but if sufficient heat is applied then it | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
does go up in flames. You and I have both noticed everywhere you walk | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
around here there are little bits. These are the bits, it is like | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
charcoal, really flimsy, it just breaks away when you touch it. | :36:02. | :36:03. | |
It is almost the consistency of polystyrene ceiling tiles, and this | :36:04. | :36:06. | |
is the insulating material that may be between boards, fire resistant | :36:07. | :36:08. | |
boards, you can see it is black throughout, it has burned | :36:09. | :36:10. | |
throughout, floated down from the building. This is the kind of | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
material that is being blamed for spreading the fire so quickly. The | :36:15. | :36:21. | |
company that did the work, they say it was in compliance with all the | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
regulations and standards, and the company that carried out the work on | :36:27. | :36:30. | |
the panels, they said there is no evidence at the moment, no | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
convincing evidence, that the panels were to blame for the fire | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
spreading, but certainly that is what a lot of people who live there | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
believe this sort of stuff was to blame for the fire spreading so | :36:45. | :36:45. | |
quickly. Thank you very much, for the time | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
being. That is all from us for the moment, | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
we have been here at the scene of the fire throughout the morning and | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
the images remain, every time you look at it, they still stop you in | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
your tracks, many people just passing by, stopping, looking for a | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
moment and thinking of those missing and, as yet, for. | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
Charlie, thanks very much. There have been questions about | :37:07. | :37:14. | |
safety, how the blaze managed to spread so quickly. | :37:15. | :37:17. | |
The Prime Minister has promised a "proper investigation" | :37:18. | :37:24. | |
into the fire which engulfed Grenfell Tower. | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
Earlier we spoke to the Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Fire | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
Safety rescue Group and Conservative MP Sir David Amess. | :37:34. | :37:34. | |
We have made countless speeches saying that Brinker should be | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
fitted. It is absolute madness that it is mandatory for sprinklers to | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
automatically be fitted in all new school buildings and it is | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
impossible to put any amount of money on someone's life, so it isn't | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
just this minister or the minister before, it has been very, very | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
frustrating and it has taken a tragedy like this now to get some | :37:58. | :37:59. | |
attention. John Healey is the shadow Housing | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
Minister and joins us from Westminster. We spoke to said David | :38:08. | :38:12. | |
Namath earlier in his role as a child the committee and an MP and | :38:13. | :38:15. | |
what he made a point of saying is that these problems, the lack of | :38:16. | :38:21. | |
changes to regulations, installation of sprinklers, etc, this has gone | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
back years and years and years. Labour needs to take as much | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
responsibility for in action as much as the Conservatives. I don't accept | :38:29. | :38:35. | |
that, but as we consider these wider questions we have to bear in mind it | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
is still desperately difficult down there at Grenfell Tower, many people | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
are still missing, there are still flames in parts of the building and | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
the firefighters still have not reached all part of that building so | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
we have to bear that in mind. As far as our record as a Labour Government | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
goes, we brought in regulations requiring all new tower blocks to | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
have sprinkler systems fitted, we overhauled the guidance for | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
assessing the risk and when we had a similar fire in Camberwell we had a | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
review done within a month of that fire reporting back to ministers and | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
published, so it is a good thing that Theresa May has ordered this | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
review. It needs to be done without delay and report for the summer but | :39:17. | :39:22. | |
most important, like others have said, they can start to act now on | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
the recommendations that were there in the cauldron of support that they | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
have had for over four years so they can start by installing sprinklers | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
in the high risk blocks, the highest rise blocks. They can overhaul the | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
building regulations as they promised to do four years ago and | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
they can make sure people do have clear advice and information when | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
they live in high-rise blocks like this about what to do when there is | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
a fire. You brought up the tragic fire which killed six people in | :39:53. | :39:54. | |
Camberwell in September 2000 and nine. Shortly after that there were | :39:55. | :40:03. | |
reassurances asked for from the Labour Government that changes be | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
made. You said you put in regulation for the new tower blocks, that still | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
left tower blocks like Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
without those safety measures. Why were they not considered as | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
important. We brought in those regulations in 2006, the coroner's | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
report after Lakanal House in Camberwell, the terrible fire that | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
claimed six lives, came in the spring of 2013, it was then the | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
Government said first of all that they would overhaul the building | :40:35. | :40:36. | |
regulations, and we are still waiting. Secondly they rejected out | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
of hand even encouraging the retrofitting of these sprinkler | :40:42. | :40:56. | |
systems in other high-rise blocks. They should act on those | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
recommendations, it has been on the table for four years, they should | :41:00. | :41:01. | |
start now in those high-rise blocks which are highest risk, there is no | :41:02. | :41:04. | |
reason now not to start installing those sprinkler systems and starting | :41:05. | :41:06. | |
the job of overhauling peace building regulations. This is the | :41:07. | :41:08. | |
Bible the industry, designers, constructors, people who maintain, | :41:09. | :41:10. | |
landlords, all views were looking after these sorts of properties. | :41:11. | :41:13. | |
John Healy, thank you very much for joining us. | :41:14. | :41:21. | |
The Metropolitan Police have said about emergency number for anyone | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
concerned about friends or family at Grenfell Tower. The number is 0800 | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
0961 233. Theresa May will meet political | :41:29. | :41:37. | |
parties from Northern Ireland She'll discuss plans to restore | :41:38. | :41:39. | |
power-sharing at Stormont, and try to allay growing concerns | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
about her attempt to secure the backing of Democratic Unionist | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
MPs in parliament. President Trump is being | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
investigated for possible obstruction of justice, | :41:50. | :41:56. | |
according to the Washington Post. If confirmed, the move | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
by Special Counsel Robert Mueller would mark a turning point | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
in the FBI investigation into Russian interference in last | :42:04. | :42:05. | |
year's presidential election. Mr Trump's lawyer has called | :42:06. | :42:07. | |
the leak of information "outrageous, The days of coming home | :42:08. | :42:09. | |
from a European holiday to a huge mobile | :42:10. | :42:23. | |
phone bill are over. These are changes to the rules when | :42:24. | :42:31. | |
it comes to using your mobile abroad, from today roaming charges | :42:32. | :42:33. | |
will be scrapped so whatever deal you are on in the UK is what you | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
will get when you are travelling around the EU member states. In | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
other words, you should not get that message saying you will be charged | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
40p per text or whatever, it will be exactly the same as in the UK. There | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
are some caveats, as always. If you are on an unlimited data plan it | :42:51. | :42:51. | |
might be that your mobile provider. Also if you | :42:52. | :43:07. | |
travel and spend a lot of time in the EU, if you spend more time in | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
other countries than the UK, you need to be careful with that because | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
what the mobile providers are saying is your predominant tone has to be | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
the UK, you have to use it more in the UK if you with a UK provider | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
than any of other countries. It is definitely better than what | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
was and on the whole it will mean you shouldn't come back, like Mike | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
did, when he got back from his holiday, with a ?750 bill. | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
2011 in Tenerife, I let my daughters go on social media sites... I was | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
naive and financially inept! And your data roaming has been | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
permanently turned off! Questions needed to be answered! | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
Steph, thank you very much. You will answer the questions about what is | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
going on in the cricket? Not what England had planned, they | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
were the favourites to win the champions Trophy but they are out, | :44:03. | :44:04. | |
so questions are being asked. The England cricket captain has | :44:05. | :44:12. | |
denied there was any complacency from his side | :44:13. | :44:15. | |
after they were heavily beaten by Pakistan, | :44:16. | :44:16. | |
in the Champions Trophy semi-final. They went into the match undefeated | :44:17. | :44:18. | |
and as strong favourites, but Eoin Morgan's side | :44:19. | :44:21. | |
were comprehensively outplayed by Pakistan, | :44:22. | :44:23. | |
who won by eight wickets. They will play either Bangladesh | :44:24. | :44:24. | |
or India in Sunday's final. We played against some really good | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
sides recently and we've That hasn't gone | :44:31. | :44:33. | |
to our heads at all. In today's game, going in knowing | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
we would play on a used wicket potentially brought Pakistan's game | :44:39. | :44:44. | |
closer to their home. Southampton are looking | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
for a new manager, after sacking The Frenchman had spent just one | :44:49. | :44:50. | |
season at St Mary's, but during that time guided | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
the Saints to the League Cup Final, where they were narrowly beaten | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
by Manchester United, and he helped them to finish | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
a respectable eighth The US Open golf, gets under way | :45:02. | :45:03. | |
in Wisconsin, this afternoon. Much of the pre-tournament talk, | :45:04. | :45:12. | |
has been about the punishing rough, with long grass surrounding | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
many of the fairways. Organisers took the unusual step | :45:17. | :45:18. | |
of cutting some of it back. Look at that grass, come up to my | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
waist, I would have thought. 3,000 athletes from over 200 nations | :45:23. | :45:29. | |
are descending on London this summer It will be the last chance, | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
to see stars of the track Usain Bolt and Mo Farah, | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
run competitively - on the track, at least, | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
they will be hanging Let's take a look at some | :45:43. | :45:44. | |
of the highlights. Usain Bolt! He's done it! Semenuk's | :45:45. | :46:00. | |
the champion! It's a new British record! It's a mammoth jump! New | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
world record! Raina Sophie Hitchen, what an effort! It is huge! A new | :46:07. | :46:17. | |
British record! She is going to win the world title! A beautiful jump! | :46:18. | :46:26. | |
Laura Muir now, she has smashed the British record! Mo Farah wins the | :46:27. | :46:33. | |
gold! It gives you goose bumps, so does this position, it is a bit | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
lumpy on the sofa. I can't remember a time we have had so many football | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
world champions and record holders on the sofa. | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
We are joined in the studio by three former track and field world | :46:45. | :46:47. | |
champions and record holders, Colin Jackson, Sally Gunnell | :46:48. | :46:49. | |
Identity now we have is enough time to talk to you! Lovat crack on then, | :46:50. | :46:57. | |
I suppose will stop Sally, what has been the impact and the legacy of Mo | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
Farah and Usain Bolt in particular at this difficult time for the sport | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
as a whole, have they saved it, even? I think it is enormous, to | :47:07. | :47:13. | |
have two massive personalities and with Bolt, his last ever race will | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
be at the World Championships and the sport will miss him. But at the | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
same time, he's unique at what he has done. He is an amazing character | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
and what he has brought to the sport. Yes, he will stay within the | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
sport, but we will probably never find somebody like him. We shouldn't | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
be trying to replace him, he is a one-off. I have never known all the | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
years I have been involved in athletics a character like him, and | :47:36. | :47:39. | |
hopefully with mower, we might not see on the track but we will see him | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
on the road, so yes, the sport will miss him. How much from all of your | :47:43. | :47:50. | |
experiences from retiring as great athletes, how much will they missed | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
the sport? I think hugely. Usain himself loves entertaining, so he | :47:57. | :47:58. | |
will try to fill that void doing something else. He is highly | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
talented, I'll be honest. I have seen him do Semenuk things from | :48:04. | :48:05. | |
acting the musical stuff as well, so he will find his outlet somewhere. I | :48:06. | :48:09. | |
will certainly misses performances on the track but we won't see the | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
last of him. I think he is probably ready to retire, the pressure of | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
being at the top since 2008 when he burst on the scene at Beijing, his | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
body I think is falling apart. I do think he is a Big Train. LAUGHTER | :48:25. | :48:29. | |
I don't think he will miss all those hard sessions with Coach mills, as | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
he calls him, but he is an entertainer, and he happens to be a | :48:36. | :48:38. | |
very fast athlete. I think he is ready to retire and move onto the | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
next age of whatever life holds forth Usain Bolt. Probably not | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
Manchester United though. LAUGHTER I can vouch for the fact he can | :48:49. | :48:56. | |
dance. You gave him that move? If I helped him, before he was known at | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
all. So let's look at London, a fitting place to say goodbye and | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
what an important time, given all the terrible things that have | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
happened, for London to be staging this and rolling back the memories | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
of 2012. And that is what we are all hoping for, I'm sure we will. Today | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
we have another 60,000 tickets going on sale. That is a demand, the | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
tickets for the World Championships have almost sold out, so that is why | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
they are releasing another lot. The Paras, there are still tickets to | :49:26. | :49:28. | |
get hold of but that has already been the most successful ticket | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
sales for any World Championships. That is key and important. That is | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
what we want to do. Where we have so many great performers coming | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
forward, there is a new generation, and we want to feel that real buzz | :49:41. | :49:44. | |
of a family coming together and enjoying that track every night. You | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
say a new generation yet you said that when the one as great as Usain | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
Bolt, that's not very fair, is it? You will still see great | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
performances, that is the key. As an athletics fan I am looking forward | :49:58. | :49:59. | |
to seeing some great athletic performances. I don't think we | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
should really look for another Usain, personally, because he is | :50:05. | :50:07. | |
outstanding in any sport, weather track and field or football or | :50:08. | :50:09. | |
anything, he is an outstanding character. I think this | :50:10. | :50:15. | |
Championships is important for UK Athletics was that there are | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
problems behind the scene, talks about public credibility, changing | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
the world records perhaps, so I think the London 2017, it has a | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
really important part to play in the element of athletics. Without | :50:27. | :50:29. | |
question he will struggle without Usain Bolt, he has carried the sport | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
on his shoulders. Great athletics, great new stars is really important | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
for the next age of the element of the sport. I know Sebastian Coe who | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
is here from the IAAF will say exactly the same. If you look back | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
to Rio last year, it wasn't brilliant for athletics, the stadium | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
was in full, so London 2017 has a really important part to play in the | :50:51. | :50:53. | |
sport's developer in. How much does it feel different winning a World | :50:54. | :51:01. | |
Championships to an Olympic gold? It is different. Once every four years | :51:02. | :51:06. | |
as opposed to once every two years makes a big difference, and Dylan | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
picks does have that cachet. But nonetheless, the atmosphere for 2017 | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
will be incredible, without any question. Recognise this? Oh yes. I | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
remember watching this performance in a cafe, I actually wasn't in the | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
stadium. If you said to me, in your career what was the exciting moment, | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
it would be this, not winning the Olympics. Although the pressure on | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
the Olympics, it is so great. I think mine was the Olympics, I think | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
it is because you dream about it from a very young girl and everyone | :51:41. | :51:45. | |
knows the Olympics, whereas the worlds doesn't have that history | :51:46. | :51:49. | |
behind it. It is every two years. Jonathan Briggs the world record, I | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
broke the world record, to me at a store that Olympic title. And Colin | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
broke world record in the World Championships as well. I remember | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
this race as well, I remember how poorly you the night before. Sally | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
was in a bad state in the cafe, I remember we were sitting and | :52:06. | :52:08. | |
chatting away about it, her eyes were streaming and everything, I was | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
like, you'll be all right tomorrow, and you were! Still in shock, I | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
probably learned more about my self in that race, it's amazing. I think | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
it is just the excitement that we are here in London, and it is | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
summer, we are going to hold a World Championships. Thank you so much | :52:26. | :52:28. | |
coming in. Can't wait for it all to start. Let's hope it is more popular | :52:29. | :52:34. | |
than the last set of Olympics. The ticket sales are great both of the | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
World Championships and the power athletics as well. We have been for | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
the anniversary game is quite a view time since 2012 and they have all | :52:43. | :52:44. | |
been really good. Thank you the joining us. It is 852. Do you want | :52:45. | :52:51. | |
to do this bit? The weather with Sarah? Let's have a look. It was a | :52:52. | :52:56. | |
warm humid night last night and for many of us quite a murky start to | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
the Davis Cup as we have through the day, things will stop to feel a bit | :53:00. | :53:07. | |
-- a muggy start to the day. It is this cold front that will be | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
introducing the fresh air, moving in from the Atlantic. As that slowly | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
shifts its way from West to East, we will draw in that westerly breeze. | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
On the front, not much rain, a few spots for Northern Ireland out of | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
the Midlands, mainly a band of cloud as it shifts across southern England | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
into East Anglia too. From the north-west, plenty of showers moving | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
in on that westerly breeze, whereas further south we are expecting | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
things to stay largely dry. This is 4pm. Across the south-west of Inler | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
income 17, 18 degrees, a little cooler than recent days, slightly | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
fresher too across the south-east, but quite warm and muggy for the | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
first part of the day before that cold front shifts is Woods. A bit | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
more patchy cloud through the Midlands and northern England, where | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
we are likely to see the odd shower. More frequent showers across parts | :53:54. | :53:56. | |
of Scotland. Sunny intervals between but if you catch some of the showers | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
as they push eastwards across Scotland, could be the odd rumble of | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
thunder. Some sharp showers across Northern Ireland with some gusty | :54:06. | :54:07. | |
winds and temperatures in the mid to high teens. You can catch one or two | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
passing showers across the far north of Wales but for much of Wales, it | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
stays dry in that sunshine. Through the evening hours for many of us, a | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
dry bright into the day. Overnight, the showers in the north Kent is | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
away a time, a bit more cloud and patchy rain into Northern Ireland | :54:23. | :54:25. | |
through the early hours of Friday. First thing tomorrow morning, the | :54:26. | :54:28. | |
average is around 12 or 13 typically. Certainly more | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
comfortable for sleeping, not quite as muggy as it was first thing this | :54:33. | :54:35. | |
morning. Through the day tomorrow, quite a lot of cloud across Northern | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
Ireland and Scotland with some patchy rain moving north-eastwards. | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
Elsewhere across the country, another dry day to come, and it will | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
feel quite worn once again. In the sunnier spells, 23 or 24 degrees. | :54:47. | :54:50. | |
That warming trend stays with us into the weekend too. High-pressure | :54:51. | :54:54. | |
moving in from the south, that is keeping weather fronts at bay, just | :54:55. | :54:58. | |
a front sitting at the far north-west there. A bit of wet | :54:59. | :55:01. | |
weather and quite breezy for the north-west of Scotland but for the | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
rest of the country it is dry, sunny spells. Look at those temper just | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
come out to around 28 on Saturday, moving up as we're heading into | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
Sunday. Temptress topping at 30 degrees or so. A bit of rain to come | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
across the far north-west. For now, back to Charlie in London. | :55:21. | :55:30. | |
You can see the carcass of Grenfell Tower. We are spending emojis | :55:31. | :55:39. | |
looking at the building itself. -- we are spending a few minutes | :55:40. | :55:42. | |
looking at the building. Still some smoke emerging from what looks like | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
the lower floors. We have watched that during the morning. The images | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
from last night where against the dark skies you could see fire still | :55:50. | :55:53. | |
raging from within. But it is sobering to look at it as many | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
people pass by this morning and they take a moment and just look at what | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
happened. The story this morning is of those missing and those as yet | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
unaccounted for. We were speaking to Danny Cotan from the Fire Service a | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
little earlier on. She was saying that even though fire officers have | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
been able to go throughout the tower itself, they are unable to give | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
people any numbers, in terms of the casualties. We now police have said | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
12 people confirmed dead, but everyone is expecting that number to | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
rise significantly. Many people locally have been trying to help out | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
those who have been caught up in this crisis. Graham Satchell has | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
been having a look at those stories for us now. | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
It burned all day, the smoke visible for miles. | :56:42. | :56:43. | |
On the street, people reliving what is the stuff of nightmares - | :56:44. | :56:46. | |
the horror of seeing people jump, seeing people trapped at windows. | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
It was terrible because I saw people, like the top floor, | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
waving their hands, "Help," screaming for help and before | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
we knew it the fire just engulfed that part, and you can | :56:57. | :56:59. | |
Some of those who are missing have now been identified, | :57:00. | :57:07. | |
including 12-year-old Jessica Urbano, who lived | :57:08. | :57:08. | |
We met Sophie, who's 11, one of her school friends. | :57:09. | :57:17. | |
She's still missing, she was on the news, | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
and it's horrible for me to hear that they're missing or they're dead | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
The grief very public, as some received terrible news. | :57:25. | :57:31. | |
But with the grief, a truly heart-warming response. | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
Everyone seemed to be carrying bags and boxes | :57:35. | :57:36. | |
Churches, mosques, community centres inundated | :57:37. | :57:45. | |
Everybody here is a volunteer, none of us know each other, | :57:46. | :57:56. | |
we've just got stuck in and it's been fantastic, | :57:57. | :57:58. | |
the community spirit has been really good. | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
This a spontaneous response but, as the day wore on, a sense of anger | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
that the local authority was nowhere to be seen. | :58:07. | :58:08. | |
There's no-one out here, it's really just the community | :58:09. | :58:10. | |
It's just really members of the community coordinating | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
There is also growing anger about the fire - | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
anger that it's poor people in a council-owned block | :58:19. | :58:20. | |
I don't care what anyone says, there's no way that that fire | :58:21. | :58:27. | |
should spread that quickly on a newly-refurbished building. | :58:28. | :58:34. | |
We went as residents and said, "Look, someone | :58:35. | :58:35. | |
needs to look at this, because there are | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
David Collins says concerns he raised about fire | :58:39. | :58:40. | |
safety at the tower block were brushed aside. | :58:41. | :58:43. | |
There will have been people trapped in that tower knowing | :58:44. | :58:45. | |
that the people that were supposed to look after them | :58:46. | :58:48. | |
Debris from the fire is everywhere on the ground here, | :58:49. | :59:04. | |
How could this fire have spread so quickly, and why did so many die? | :59:05. | :59:17. | |
Graham Satchell, BBC News, West London. So many of those questions | :59:18. | :59:23. | |
resonating with local people here. We should just give you the | :59:24. | :59:26. | |
statements that have come from the various organisations involved. | :59:27. | :59:33. | |
Kensington and Chelsea Management organisation who run the building | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
say, the fire is devastating, reports of injury and loss of life | :59:38. | :59:41. | |
are heartbreaking, we want to pay tribute to the bravery of the | :59:42. | :59:46. | |
emergency services, members of the public to continue to selflessly do | :59:47. | :59:49. | |
all they can. The events of last night and early this morning are a | :59:50. | :59:52. | |
tragedy and we are doing everything we can to assist the residents of | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
Grenfell Tower, those affected by the tragedy, that will be our | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
immediate concern. Also from Kensington and Chelsea | :00:02. | :00:04. | |
council, they say, we are providing emergency accommodation for those | :00:05. | :00:08. | |
affected by the fire, our immediate priority is to accommodate the | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
residents of Grenfell Tower and their families. | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
Very much their focus at this stage is the families affected. Let's | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
speak more about this now with two people closely involved in this | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
area. The right reverend and Bishop of Kensington, who has spent the | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
last 30 hours was also helping people locally, and Pilgrim Tucker, | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
who was the housing officer at Grenfell Tower in 2015. There is a | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
lot of anger in the community at the moment relating to what wasn't done | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
as people here are seeing it. It was obvious at the time, I worked here | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
in 2015, that the tenants were very aware of multiple problems with the | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
building, including potential fire safety problems. I worked with that | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
community, the tenant management just didn't listen to them, the | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
contract it just didn't listen to the tenants' concerned, and it took | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
some of the tenants being brave enough to protest and refuse access | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
to the contractors into their flats to eventually get some of their | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
problems addressed, but only for those tenants who were brave enough | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
and able to protest. Some people we have spoken to this morning suggest | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
it was almost like that awful line that now is not the time to be | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
addressing those things but that is not what is protected by people who | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
have been caught up in this? Know, the community, the people who have | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
been directly affected are in terrible shock, but there is anger | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
waiting to happen, they have been angry for a number of years about | :01:42. | :01:49. | |
what was going on, their lives have just been devastated, and this was | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
all entirely preventable. They have been warning about this for years. | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
Bishop, you have joined us to talk about the compassion alongside that | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
anger, sometimes it sounds very cliched but you have been talking | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
directly to people who know people who are still unaccounted for in the | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
building? Yes, yesterday was extraordinary in many ways, just the | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
outpouring of compassion from so many people in the community here | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
but your heart just goes out to people, I was speaking yesterday to | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
a number of people gathering in one of our churches nearby, Saint | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
Clements just around the corner from the travel, people anxious about | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
family members, friends, wondering where they were, also a bit of news | :02:28. | :02:38. | |
comes through that perhaps they are OK, hospital somewhere, just not | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
knowing, we are in that phase at the moment, just not knowing where | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
people are and that is the real anxiety for many people. Pilgrim, | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
people who know this area well, you can see the devastation behind us | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
but you only have to look closely and you can see a lot of other | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
buildings here, replicated in cities across the UK, these questions are | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
being asked about these tower block -- this tower block and relevant | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
elsewhere. Yes, and they go right to the top, to the heart of this | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
Government, Theresa May's chief of staff was responsible, consecutive | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
housing ministers have ignored reports about fire safety and not | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
implemented much-needed regulation. Those same politicians voted | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
against, just last year, they voted against a clause in the bill which | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
would have made homes safe for human habitation. Theresa May has said | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
there will be a full investigation, I know that will be greeted with | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
some scepticism by a lot of people. Bishop, if I could give you the last | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
thought, we have seen the wall of remembrance which is just behind us | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
there. It is sobering reading the messages there, some people | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
obviously directly know those who have been caught up. That is right, | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
today one of the thoughts is for those people who may get bad news | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
today, we all know the death count will probably rise, people will get | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
bad and so our focus as a church and those of us looking to convert | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
people is to bring some of that comfort today as people get news. | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
Worth bearing in mind the emergency services who spent much of | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
yesterday, Fire Services, ambulance crews, people who have the job of | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
going into the building and recovering bodies, many people the | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
same who have dealt with the Manchester attacks and London Bridge | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
attacks, three once-in-a-lifetime events in one month, our heart and | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
thoughts go out to them as well. Thank you very much for your time, | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
Bishop and Pilgrim. We heard earlier from the | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
commission, the Fire Commissioner, saying that some of those fire | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
officers who are involved in the initial rescue operation were indeed | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
themselves needing medical assistance. We will have more from | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
here a little later on in the morning. Now, a break for some news, | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
travel and weather where you are. I'll be back at 1.30pm | :04:53. | :06:29. | |
with the lunchtime news - Over the last few months on BBC | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
Breakfast we've had to report some harrowing news, | :06:32. | :06:42. | |
including yesterday's fire but we also wanted to bring | :06:43. | :06:44. | |
you something else this morning. As part of the BBC's Music Day, | :06:45. | :06:53. | |
we wanted to show you how the power of music is being used to make | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
a difference to patients at a hospital in Manchester, | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
and to the medical staff Our entertainment correspondent, | :07:04. | :07:05. | |
Colin Paterson, has This is not how a hospital high | :07:06. | :07:21. | |
dependency unit normally sounds. But at the Manchester Royal Infirmary it | :07:22. | :07:22. | |
is becoming a regular event. Since last July, professional | :07:23. | :07:38. | |
musicians have been brought into play for patients. And it is easy to | :07:39. | :07:51. | |
see the sheer joy it brings. I found myself in an intensive care unit and | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
found that experience quite traumatising. It was the high idea | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
of Helen Ashley Taylor. Her hospital stay was transformed by a snatch of | :08:00. | :08:06. | |
music on the TV set. That moment I felt alive again, it was | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
transformative. I didn't feel isolated any more, I didn't think | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
about my condition, I didn't think about pain, I didn't feel any pain, | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
it was just quite incredible, it was lovely and it was all I could talk | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
about when I left the hospital. Already a volunteer for music in | :08:22. | :08:30. | |
hospitals, she decided to set up ICU Hear to take music into intensive | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
care units, and it has proved to be a big hit. It is soothing. Music is | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
good for you. It is making a difference. I don't want to | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
stereotype you but you were in a motorcycle crash and you have some | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
rather big tattoo. Are you a fan of the hard Rock? These are from a few | :08:50. | :08:58. | |
years ago when I had a lot of her! And the staff approve of the musical | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
accompaniment. It is quite a nice moment when the music is playing and | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
the patient can be calm, because it is quite stressful. And to show how | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
much music has become part of the hospital, the day after the | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
Manchester bomb clarinettist Rachel Philpott, a regular here, helped out | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
in the way she could, by playing in intensive care. I know that this can | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
be quite settling for the stuff, I often have feedback saying this is | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
what they needed, so I offered to come in if it was appropriate. One | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
of the nurses said, this has been a horrible week and this is what we | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
needed today. And one patient, Jacqueline, told me that having | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
music played by her bedside could make her a whole day better. It's | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
wonderful, it's lovely music. To me, music is really good for healing. | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
The power of music. Just how powerful can music be? It can move | :09:56. | :10:04. | |
mountains, can't it? And it can move people's hearts. Don't start me | :10:05. | :10:13. | |
crying. It can do wonders. Colin Paterson, BBC News, Manchester Royal | :10:14. | :10:14. | |
Infirmary. Wonderful hearing about the power of | :10:15. | :10:21. | |
music as part of BBC Music Day. Let's take you back to West London, | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
where Charlie is. We're in the shadow of Grenfell | :10:26. | :10:42. | |
Tower year, you can see over my shoulder there the building, what | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
remains of it, we have seen smoke emerging from some of the lower | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
floors this morning, a very sobering sight, many people passing by just | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
stopping and looking and taking in what has happened. We know Theresa | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
May is due to visit the site later this morning, there has been an | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
announcement this morning. People gathering with me for some final | :11:02. | :11:03. | |
thoughts this morning. You have been helping those who have | :11:04. | :11:23. | |
been turning up here. First of all our thoughts and grace to those | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
affected in this tragic incident. Yes, it has been a big operation | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
yesterday, we have been inundated with volunteers, we heard up with | :11:31. | :11:40. | |
Humanity first, a community charity, and have had volunteers since | :11:41. | :11:42. | |
yesterday morning helping with British Red Cross, with the council, | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
liaising with all of the respite centres around the town. The spirit | :11:48. | :11:55. | |
in the community is amazing. People are coming here for donations from | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
as far away from Hampshire, we had volunteers throughout the night | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
working with the authorities and local charities. If I could ask, and | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
some of the practical questions a lot of people are asking this | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
morning about how the fire spread so quickly, why would the instructions | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
to stay in place? These are big issues about which people locally | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
are very angry. Definitely, what came across yesterday and today is | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
not just that anger but also the community spirit, as we have said. | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
But also the question is, why did it happen, how did it happen, why did | :12:32. | :12:42. | |
it spread so quickly, what can we learn from what happened and what | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
are the implications for elsewhere? We need to find out very quickly and | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
independent report, not overreact but learn very fast. We know there | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
will be a full investigation which may be met with scepticism by people | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
like you, this is your home. If you had seen that building go up, like I | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
saw it from my back window, you will know that building was not fit for | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
purpose. Somewhere along the line someone made a catastrophic error. | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
At the moment we are breathing but there is a bubbling anger underneath | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
and we do want to see someone held accountable for this. We want to see | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
justice for those victims, because that was unavoidable tragedy. Thank | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
you so much for your time this morning, that completes our coverage | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
from West London this morning. Coverage will continue on the BBC | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
News Channel. From everyone here, goodbye. | :13:26. | :13:33. | |
For the first time, the Science Museum is opening its doors | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
so you can vote for Britain's greatest invention. | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
MUSIC: Da Funk, by Daft Punk | :13:44. | :13:47. |