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Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
After a near 30-year battle, the families of those who died | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
at Hillsborough will find out this morning whether anyone | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
It follows two separate enquires into what happened on the day | :00:13. | :00:18. | |
of the match and whether there was a cover up afterwards. | :00:19. | :00:35. | |
Good morning, it's Wednesday the 28th of June. | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
One of the UK's most senior police officers says | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
that a reduction in stop-and-search has led to an increase | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
Victims tell Breakfast more needs to be done. | :00:46. | :00:55. | |
Very angry. Can see it in my eyes. This has got to stop. This knife | :00:56. | :01:06. | |
thing's got to stop. Are you paying thousands of pounds | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
too much in hidden fees The regulator is to announce | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
a crackdown on firms that manage our money but why | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
are we still getting a raw deal? In sport... | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
Not again. England lose to | :01:19. | :01:19. | |
Germany on penalties. Nathan Redmond's miss means | :01:20. | :01:20. | |
they fail to make the final of the Under-21 European | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
Championship. I'm here to place an early-morning | :01:24. | :01:38. | |
football with the guys from Man V Fat to see how teamwork has helped | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
men like this and 3000 more around the country lose a combined total of | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
30 tons in wake. -- to play some. For England, Wales and Northern | :01:45. | :01:54. | |
Ireland some rain on the cards, some of it will be heavy but as | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
temperatures rise we could have thundery downpours. The dryers | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
conditions today are likely to be in Scotland. More details in 15 minutes | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
-- driest conditions. The families of those who died | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
at Hillsborough will find out later this morning whether anyone | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
will face criminal charges. An inquest ruled last year | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
that the 96 Liverpool fans who died at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989 | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
were unlawfully killed. Our North of England correspondent | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Judith Moritz reports. # Walk on, | :02:21. | :02:32. | |
with hope in your heart... It was a moment of history, | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
the inquest's finding last year that 96 Liverpool | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
fans were unlawfully For their families, | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
it was justice, but their legal Steve Kelly lost his brother | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
Michael in the disaster. He's spent the 28 years since then | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
calling for those responsible There's got to be | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
this accountability. It's paramount in this whole case | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
and you know, to truly let The fans were killed | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded | :03:03. | :03:11. | |
during the 1989 FA Cup semifinal. Since 2012, there have been | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
two criminal inquiries Operation Resolve investigated | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
the day of the disaster. Offences considered include gross | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
negligence manslaughter. One of those waiting | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
to hear whether he will face charges is former | :03:31. | :03:32. | |
Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
who was the South Yorkshire The police watchdog, the IPCC, | :03:35. | :03:36. | |
investigated cover-up allegations, It considered offences including | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
misconduct in a public office and perverting | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
the course of justice. The former West Yorkshire chief | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
constable, Sir Norman Bettison, has revealed that he's been treated | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
as a suspect by the IPCC. It isn't known whether | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
he wail face charges. Hundreds of investigators have been | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
working from these offices for the last four years | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
at a cost of ?100 million. There is an expectation that | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
charges will be brought, after such a long wait | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
and such large-scale effort. That decision will be announced to | :04:13. | :04:27. | |
the families at 11am this morning. We will keep you in touch with that | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
through the day on the BBC for you. Computer systems around the world | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks, | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
retailers, energy firms The companies have been | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
say in some ways it's more sophisticated than the Wannacry | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
virus used in a global attack last Labour is to table an amendment | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
to the Queen's Speech calling for more spending on the police | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
and fire services. to the 1% cap on public sector pay | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
rises. Iain Watson joins us from | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
Westminster. Good morning to you once again, | :05:01. | :05:12. | |
Iain. Labour are unlikely to win this one so what is the gameplan? | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
You're right, Dan, Labour want to win the argument rather than the | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
vote because Theresa May on Monday signed the deal with those ten DUP | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
MPs from Northern Ireland, so is she should have the votes in the bag to | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
defeat Labour but what Labour want to do is first say if you can find | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
?1 billion for Northern Ireland to stay in power, can't you find some | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
cash to prevent public spending cuts elsewhere in the UK? They're aiming | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
to make Conservative MPs feel uncomfortable, some of those who | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
lost their seat at the election saying on the doorsteps people were | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
saying that pay restraint had gone on for too long so what Labour are | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
trying to do is force Conservative MPs to nail their colours to the | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
mast and vote down the proposal to lift the public sector paid gap. | :05:58. | :06:05. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is looking to invest more in public services after | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Grenfell, his opponents say he is politicising the issue but it hasn't | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
hurt him in the opinion polls and in response the Conservatives said we | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
have protected police spending but if you want to protect public | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
services you need a stronger economy and that is something that Labour | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
can't deliver. Iain, thanks, speak to you later. | :06:27. | :06:27. | |
Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party | :06:28. | :06:29. | |
of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called | :06:40. | :06:50. | |
for a major national investigation into the use of cladding | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
Our reporter Simon Jones is in west London for us this morning. | :06:57. | :07:09. | |
What more can you tell us about these safety tests? Well, 95 | :07:10. | :07:19. | |
buildings tested so far and all have failed. The thing that strikes you | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
hear two weeks on is just how many questions remain about what | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
happened, why are these buildings now failing these new tests? Why did | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
the fire at Grenfell Tower take hold so drastically? How many people | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
actually died? Will we ever know the final total? Outside this church, | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
this has become one of the focal points for the grief with people | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
putting up posters and bringing flowers. The posters have people on | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
sadly now presumed to have died. To give you a sense of where we are | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
this morning, that same Methodist church and a short distance away is | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
what remains of the tower. Still a shocking sight to see it two weeks | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
after the tragedy took place. A big focus of this investigation is going | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
to be cladding, tests have failed on high-rise buildings across the | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
country but we've found nine NHS trusts have been found to have | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
buildings with cladding similar to Grenfell Tower. We've been told | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
schools will be asked to check any buildings four storeys or higher, | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
that might not be the tests we've seen on high-rise buildings but they | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
will have to look at what the cladding, if any, is made up of. | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
There's confusion among local authorities about what they should | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
be looking for because they say now they're not clear about what is safe | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
and what is deemed unsafe. Simon, thanks very much. We will be | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
there through the morning speaking to people who had to leave their | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
homes because of what happened at the tower. | :08:55. | :08:54. | |
Services providing support for people who are older | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
and disabled face more cuts despite extra money being put | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
That's according to research by the directors of adult social | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
The report says more than two thirds of local authorities had to dip | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand. | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
A major annual study of public opinion in England, | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
Scotland and Wales suggests that almost half the population favour | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
raising taxes to increase spending on public services. | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
Nearly 3,000 people were interviewed for the British Social | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
Attitudes Survey between last July and November. | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
Researchers say there's evidence people are more Eurosceptic | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
after the referendum than at any point in the last 33 years. | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
One of the UK's rarest birds of prey is heading towards extinction | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
There are just four breeding pairs of hen harriers left, | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
and numbers are declining fast across the rest of the UK. | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
Even in the bird's traditional stronghold of Scotland, | :09:53. | :09:54. | |
The reasons include illegal persecution and destruction | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
They are beautiful creatures, aren't they? | :09:58. | :10:17. | |
If you are just waking up then you might want to wake up a little bit | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
more for this. A pedestrian has had a miraculous | :10:23. | :10:23. | |
escape after being struck by a bus The moment was captured on CCTV, | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
as Ben Moore reports. might find these pictures | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
upsetting. It is disturbing to watch but he | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
survived and he's OK. A quiet morning in reading until | :10:35. | :10:44. | |
this spectacular accident happened. The man on the receiving end of the | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
bus, Simon Smith, should by rights be seriously injured or worse. So | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
it's nothing short of astonishing when he calmly gets up and walks | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
into a nearby bar. Simon Khan to talk to the BBC for legal reasons | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
but his friends here have been in touch. We call called Simon a few | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
hours after the day of the accident and yeah, he was in a lot of pain. | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
He was still in shock basically, he couldn't believe what happened. I | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
can't believe Simon got up, dusted himself off and walked away from it. | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
It's a miracle he is alive. The scars the bus left as it hit this | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
wall coming to a stop are there for all to see. Many here think it | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
careered around the corner because of a mechanical failure, but that's | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
now the subject of an ongoing investigation. Reading buses says it | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
is shocked by the incident and sends it regrets to Simon. It's sharing | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
the bus's on-board CCTV with police. As you might expect this footage has | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
now gone viral. The main comment, most people admire how Simon just | :11:57. | :11:57. | |
kept calm and carried on. It is terrifying to watch, isn't it, | :11:58. | :12:12. | |
and yet he was all right and he walked away from it. Shall we show | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
you again? Walking along the street, bus comes around the corner... I'm | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
not going to make sound effects. He gets hit so hard, so many things | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
could have gone so wrong with that and for him to walk away is | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
incredible. It still has to hurt, though, hasn't it? Good morning! | :12:31. | :12:38. | |
Sorry, I can't bring you good news either to calm everything down. In a | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
world that is constantly changing, some things remain the same. Do you | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
know what Dan is talking about? Death, taxes and penalty shootouts. | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
And England losing to Germany in a semi-final on penalties. It was so | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
disappointing last night, such high hopes for our England under the team | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
but when you compare the set-ups, the England and German set-ups, | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
we've talked about the youth teams and the young players coming through | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
the England setup and Saint Georges Park and how successful it is, it is | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
progress but an interesting stat, of the team playing for England, there | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
were 200 Premier League appearances within that team, the German team, | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
1100, more than 1000 Bundesliga appearances. Experience. They play | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
more. But also they were beaten by a better team. Germany deserved to go | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
through. Yes, and the Germans were resilient and confident and have a | :13:37. | :13:37. | |
swagger about them! It was the Germans, in the semis, | :13:38. | :13:39. | |
on penalties, again. It finished 2-2 after extra time | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
and Nathan Redmond's miss ended the England under-21s' run | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
in the European Championship the England under-21s' run in | :13:48. | :13:49. | |
the European Championship in Poland. Germany will play | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
Spain in the final. A plan for England to play | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
a friendly in Thailand to win backing for their 2018 | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
World Cup it was a form of bribery, according | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
to a former FA Chairman. It's criticised in Fifa's | :14:01. | :14:02. | |
investigation into alleged corruption into the bidding process | :14:03. | :14:04. | |
for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. England's cricketers recovered | :14:05. | :14:12. | |
from their opening loss They thrashed Pakistan in Leicester | :14:13. | :14:14. | |
with a record-breaking total, And Novak Djokovic will be | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
hoping for some sunshine today as he gets | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
ready for Wimbledon. He managed only one game | :14:27. | :14:27. | |
of his match in Eastbourne yesterday It's a part of his buildup, he | :14:28. | :14:40. | |
decided to go to Eastbourne because he needed to work on his grasscourt | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
game and then low and behold, the weather got in his way! It might | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
help him for Wimbledon, both! Somebody else would know better than | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
that. If he gets it back together he is formidable, once it clicks. But | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
if. It's interesting he has chosen Andre Agassi to work with because | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
he's a man that got it back together again! The rebuild! The weather is | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
really looking miserable, Carol? I trying to put a positive spin on | :15:07. | :15:16. | |
things because a lot of us need and want the rain. I've been speaking to | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
farmers who have been crying out for it. You won't be disappointed. We | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
saw a lot of it yesterday in parts of the UK. This morning waking up to | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
some surface spray on the roads. So if you are travelling take extra | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
care. You can see the amount of rain we have had through the night. Some | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
of that has been torrential. Even a couple of inches in a short amount | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
of time. This morning it still is reining in the south-west and | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
through parts of Wales, the Midlands, at the Lincolnshire, where | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
it is still heavy. At the start of the day as well. These are the | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
temperatures we are looking at at eight a.m.. Not far from this at the | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
moment. In the northern England and Northern Ireland, a lot of cloud. | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
Some of it coming into the east of Northern Ireland. For Scotland a lot | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
of cloud around, but for Scotland today you will see the best of the | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
Web. We will see some brighter skies coming along. Through the day we | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
have an onshore flow down the east coast, so it will be quite windy at | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
times. Locally we will have gales and that close inland, making it | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
feel cold, combined with the rain. There will be sent dry interludes in | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
the south-east. As temperatures rise we could get some thundery | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
downpours. Northern Ireland is trying. 16 in Belfast, in Aberdeen | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
highs of about 13. Through this evening and overnight we continue | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
with the rain. You can see it around this low pressure. Still quite windy | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
as well. There will be dry interludes. Still dry in Scotland, | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
with the odd shower. Not a cold night. These are the values you can | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
expect in towns and cities. Tomorrow we start with a rain. Tomorrow it is | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
edging further north. Although it will be wet, the area will just be | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
wet, except for the south-west. Scotland, the far north of northern | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
England and Northern Ireland. We hang on to the rain in the south. | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
Still mighty, up to 20. As we push further north under the rain we have | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
about 12 - 15. Into Friday the low pressure is still very much driving | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
the weather, but you can see how it starts to curl around and it is | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
sinking south. A squeeze on Isa buyers indicating it will be windy | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
in the east and the west. Here is the band of rain. It will ease in | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
parts of Wales and England, as it sinks towards the south-east. Not | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
getting there until much later in the day. 22 in London, 19 in Cardiff | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
and kind in Scotland and Northern Ireland another reversal of | :17:54. | :17:55. | |
fortunes. The drier and brighter day. This weekend drier and brighter | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
sums it up. It won't be bone dry, but not as wet as today. | :18:02. | :18:11. | |
That's good news. Thank you! She always sprinkle is a little bit | :18:12. | :18:18. | |
of positivity! Ben's joined us to have a look at the papers. | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
Would you like to kick things off? Thank you so much! The Daily | :18:22. | :18:29. | |
Telegraph talks about banks for getting lessons of the past, | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
apparently risking a new financial crisis by allowing a sharp increase | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
in car loans, credit card debts and that according to the governor of | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
the Bank of England, warning yesterday. | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
The front page of the Times. Top teams split over Brexit. And that's | :18:46. | :18:56. | |
Miranda Kerr on the front. ?6 million of Jules handed to US | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
investigators, who suspect there may have been bought with stolen money. | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
The Guardian looks at those pictures from Eastbourne. Their main story is | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
about social mobility policies. They say failing to reduce inequalities | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
between the rich and poor. That's according to a report by the social | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
mobility commission. The Mirror, a double blow for | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
pensions. Women and younger workers face crisis in their retirement. And | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
one of the stars of Poldark saying she will stay a fiery redhead for | :19:34. | :19:35. | |
good. And the latest on the decision, the | :19:36. | :19:42. | |
final heartbreak. Devastation as the European court refuses to save their | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
sick child. I want to pick up on that story you | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
mentioned. As I delve inside the Telegraph. You touched on it, that | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
issue of car loans. In the same way that the housing crisis all unfolded | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
because people couldn't pay their mortgages, there's a real and on | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
many experts and the Bank of England about whether we are weaned too much | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
and whether if there is a rising interest rates people won't be able | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
to pay those car loans back, leading to a lot of second-hand cars on the | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
market. And it all starts to unravel. What the Bank of England | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
has told the banks is they have to put more money aside to cover any | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
bad loans. I just want to mention this story we touched on yesterday, | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
this is staggering fine for Google. 2.4 billion euros, for overly | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
promoting its own shopping services over those of its rivals. Google | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
says it has to change. We spoke a moment ago about the | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
England Under-21 is and teams and how you compare them. I want to talk | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
about one particular team this morning, the All Blacks. There is a | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
brilliant piece in the Times this morning about the ethos, the | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
heritage. We talk about the All Blacks as being one of the greatest | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
teams ever. They are not perfect, but they have something like a 77% | :21:11. | :21:19. | |
win rate since 1973. They talk about the humility, from senior to June | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
you. They do it thing at the end of training where everybody tidies | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
their own kit, everybody carries there own, they don't walk around | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
with headphones on, the eat together and talk and bring their families | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
into the team environment. What's it called? Sweeping the shed. Whoever | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
you are, however brilliant, you take your turn at sweeping the shed after | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
training. I think we should do the equivalent after every show, tidy | :21:44. | :21:52. | |
the sofa. I think we should, it is one of my | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
pet hates! I also offered to bring in my own | :21:56. | :21:57. | |
equipment. I don't want to cause any great | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
scare, but a fishing expert is saying that a great white shark has | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
been seen hunting repeatedly off Hampshire and warns holidaymakers to | :22:09. | :22:21. | |
be on their guard. Just a warning. Has Jaws arrived on British shores? | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
We hope not! Just to say, sharks are very important. | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
A life lesson for us all, thank you very much. | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
First introduced as a way of combating crime, the power | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
to stop-and-search members of the public is one of the most | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
contentious aspects of British policing. | :22:43. | :22:44. | |
In England and Wales, the use of stop-and-search has more | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
than halved in the past five years, but one of England's most senior | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
police officers says that's led to a rise in knife crime. | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
Breakfast's Tim Muffett has been speaking to some of those affected. | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
Everytime I go down, people are walking past and it is just a normal | :22:59. | :23:06. | |
day, but that's where my life ended, where his life ended. He was at | :23:07. | :23:14. | |
college, studying law... Just so horrible. On the same street in | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
Leicester where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015, Sean was | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back, and if I | :23:24. | :23:30. | |
didn't survive this could be my mum sitting here feeling exactly that. | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
They both believed jail sentences for knife possession should be | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
longer and that police should be stopping and searching more people, | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
more often. If the stop-and-search was more present, then I believe my | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
son would still be here today. Dairy angry. You can see it in my eyes. | :23:51. | :24:00. | |
This has got to stop. This knife thing has got to stop. Across | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
England and Wales, police are stopping and searching far fewer | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
people than they used to. In 2011 there were more than 100,000 stop | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
and searches, according to the most recent Home Office figures that | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
number has now dropped by 65%. Those figures relate to searches for | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
offensive weapons. Since 2011 overall knife crime has fallen, but | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
in the past two years it has gone up by almost 13%. Stop-and-search | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
legally done is absolutely vital part of our armoury. So we should be | :24:34. | :24:39. | |
doing more of it. Like all police chiefs, Mike Barton was told in 2014 | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
by the Home Office that stop-and-search needed reform. It | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
should be intelligence led, more effectively targeted. You think | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
there's a link between national decrease in and search and the | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
recent increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science to | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's a | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
reasonable hypothesis. These two are 16. They are members of Break the | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
Chain, a London-based group of volunteers. Carrying a knife is | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
normalised, like wearing socks. How do you feel about carrying a knife? | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
They believe talking to people is the best way to dissuade them from | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
carrying knives. Cairo has himself been stopped and searched. He says | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
the police handled it badly. I felt embarrassed. When I asked them why I | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
was searched they looked nervous. Underused. I've never been in | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
trouble with the police. If you drive past and stare at me I'm going | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
to be nervous. Stop-and-search needs to be dealt with better. West | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
Midlands Police training centre and a stop-and-search exercise for | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
officers. This force believes fewer searches can be just as effective. | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
It isn't about numbers. Since 2011- 2012 we have reduced the amount of | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
stop and searches we conduct, but the arrest rate from that remains | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
exactly the same, so it would appear now that we are targeting the right | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
people. What grounds have you got the search? The Home Office says it | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
supports stop-and-search when carried out properly and that there | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
is no proven link between a number of searches and levels of knife | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
crime. But as a police tactic, it remains controversial. | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
Later we'll be speaking to a member of the race equality organisation, | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
the Runnymede Trust, looking at the issue of racial | :26:38. | :26:39. | |
Still to come this morning: Have you ever heard of Man versus Fat? | :26:40. | :26:54. | |
It's a football league for obese men. | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
Kat's at the Soccer in the City Stadium in Manchester for us. | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
Good morning! Good morning. Yes, forget your bikini diet and your | :27:03. | :27:12. | |
pure juice detox, this is how these guys lose weight. I am here to play | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
a early-morning football. These guys have tried everything to lose | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
weight, but it turns out team work is the way to do it. There are teams | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
from Stoke, Birmingham and Manchester and in a little while and | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
will speak to some of these people about how they have gone about | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
losing a combined total of 30 tons in weight. That's coming up later. | :27:33. | :27:33. | |
Now the news, travel and weather where you are. | :27:34. | :30:53. | |
Plenty more on our website at the usual address. | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. | :30:58. | :31:06. | |
With confusion over who's looking after the displaced residents | :31:07. | :31:14. | |
of Grenfell Tower, we'll ask a community spokesperson | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
about what life is like two weeks on from the fire. | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
Support is rising for higher taxes to fund public | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
services, according to the latest British Social Attitudes report. | :31:24. | :31:25. | |
And Matt Allwright's made his career cracking down | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
now he's back with a new series of Watchdog. | :31:31. | :31:37. | |
He'll join us later with a new addition to his team, | :31:38. | :31:40. | |
Leather heard of her! Yes you have! -- never heard of her! | :31:41. | :31:48. | |
But now a summary of this morning's main news. | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
A decision on whether people and organisations will face criminal | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
disaster will be announced this morning. | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
The Crown Prosecution Service will reveal its intentions | :31:59. | :32:00. | |
at a meeting with victims' relatives this morning. | :32:01. | :32:02. | |
96 Liverpool fans died when the terraces at the Sheffield | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
ground became overcrowded during the 1989 FA Cup semi final. | :32:06. | :32:12. | |
Stephen Kelly's brother, Michael, died in the disaster. | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
It's paramount in this whole case to give the families respite | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
and the survivors of Hillsborough and you know, to truly let | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
News on that throughout the day for you across the BBC. | :32:23. | :32:30. | |
Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called | :32:31. | :32:33. | |
for a major national investigation into the use of potentially | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
flammable cladding on high rise buildings. | :32:37. | :32:37. | |
Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
Last night the government confirmed all school buildings over four | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
storeys tall are having their external cladding analysed | :32:46. | :32:47. | |
Labour says it will challenge MPs today to oppose further austerity. | :32:48. | :32:55. | |
The party will call for more spending on the police and fire | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
services as an amendment to the Queen's Speech, | :33:00. | :33:01. | |
as well as an end to the 1% cap on public sector pay rises. | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
The Conservatives say only they will deliver the economy needed | :33:06. | :33:08. | |
to properly fund the emergency services. | :33:09. | :33:16. | |
Computer systems around the world have been hit by a major | :33:17. | :33:19. | |
cyber-attack affecting banks, retailers, energy firms | :33:20. | :33:21. | |
The companies have been told their computers will remain | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
Experts who have examined the code say it's more sophisticated | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
than the virus used in a global attack last month, which badly hit | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
Services providing support for people who are older | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
and disabled face more cuts, despite extra money being put | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
That's according to research by the directors of adult social | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
The report says more than two thirds of local authorities had to dip | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand. | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how | :33:53. | :33:55. | |
One of the UK's rarest birds of prey is heading towards extinction | :33:56. | :34:04. | |
There are just four breeding pairs of hen harriers left, | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
and numbers are declining fast across the rest of the UK. | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
Even in the bird's traditional stronghold of Scotland, | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
The reasons include illegal persecution and destruction | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
You may have heard the phrase "til the cows home." | :34:20. | :34:40. | |
Well, it happened to five-year-old Bella from Cheshire | :34:41. | :34:42. | |
when she played her ukulele to a herd of cows in Llandudno. | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
Here she is with just a few of the herd watching, | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
and before too long, she was joined by many more | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
Like a junior George Formby. Like the Pied Piper of cows. The usual | :34:58. | :35:08. | |
ukelele technique as well when it seems to be working! Look at that! | :35:09. | :35:15. | |
Who knew the cows love a ukelele? Now I do! I might go and try that | :35:16. | :35:22. | |
myself. Have you got one? Know, I've got a guitar, will that work the | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
same? You've got to play it like Bella is playing, side on, a bit of | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
that. Excellent. I like the way she dressed as Little Red Book had. She | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
said I can't be here all my, mummy! -- Little red Riding Hood. Gorgeous, | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
beautiful! I hope you recorded that at home everybody! I'm sure we will | :35:45. | :35:51. | |
replay it! I'm sure. Talking about replaying, a familiar story in the | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
football, an England team losing to Germany in the semifinals on | :35:56. | :36:06. | |
penalties. They had been practising every day this month, not making a | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
big deal about it. The Germans say they didn't do any practice. That's | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
annoying, isn't it? I don't know if it's true, looking at them I think | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
they probably had. Did you see the piece of paper in the German | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
keeper's sock? He knew which way each one was going to go. Based on | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
what they have done in the past? Yes. Research is key. Your sock as | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
well, that's what I like. Just so happens! Good morning, everyone! | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
Once again, England have lost the semi-final of a football | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
This time it was the Under 21s European Championship, | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
the lead through Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
But the Germans levelled and after extra time, | :36:50. | :36:51. | |
Nathan Redmond penalty was saved and the side followed the fate | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996. | :36:55. | :37:02. | |
We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players you | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
would put props on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes a great | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
save so we'll have to take that. It's been a real team effort and I | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
think we can be pleased with a lot of things we've done. And in the end | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time we need to be better for | :37:21. | :37:22. | |
it. Plenty of other football to look | :37:23. | :37:22. | |
forward to! It's only 25 days since Real Madrid | :37:23. | :37:25. | |
won the Champions League but this season's competition | :37:26. | :37:28. | |
is already under way! Welsh champions The New Saints lost | :37:29. | :37:30. | |
2-1 to Europa FC of Gibraltar Scott Quigley got them back | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
into the game with this brilliant effort but they conceded | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
a second goal. Fifa officials investigating alleged | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
corruption were told plans for England to play a friendly | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
in Thailand to win backing for their own World Cup bid | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
were a form of bribery. The former FA Chairman | :37:48. | :37:49. | |
Geoff Thompson made the admission when interviewed | :37:50. | :37:51. | |
during a Fifa enquiry into the bidding process | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, England's women have | :37:55. | :37:56. | |
got their cricket World Cup campaign back on track after a 107-run | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
victory in a rain-affected match Natalie Sciver and captain | :38:03. | :38:05. | |
Heather Knight both hit their first one-day international centuries | :38:06. | :38:08. | |
as the hosts reached a record Pakistan were well behind | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
in their chase when rain saw It was exciting to watch, watching | :38:12. | :38:26. | |
her at the other end of striking it like that and it's the type of | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
cricket we want to play, exciting to show what we can do. That can do | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
that and to see her do that is obviously brilliant from our | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
perspective but it's a great performance obviously but there's a | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
lot more cricket to be played in this tournament. | :38:43. | :38:42. | |
Novak Djokovic had entered the Aegon International | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
in Eastbourne with hopes of gaining some much-needed grass court | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
but spent a lot of yesterday twiddling his thumbs. | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
The former world number one had taken the first game | :38:52. | :38:54. | |
against Canada's Vasek Pospisil when the rains came | :38:55. | :38:56. | |
While, the current world number one Andy Murray pulled out | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
of an exhibition match at the Hurlingham Club in London, | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
He is still expected to play at the Club on Friday before | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
beginning the defence of his Wimbledon title | :39:12. | :39:13. | |
on Centre Court on Monday afternoon. | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
I know he wanted to play that game but his team decided it was better | :39:17. | :39:23. | |
to get an extra day's rest, he's got a busy fortnight coming up. You're | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
there next week? Next week and the week after we will be there alive. | :39:28. | :39:35. | |
And Carol? Yes, and Carol. Great, see you later on this morning. | :39:36. | :39:37. | |
Today marks two weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower in west London. | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
At least 79 people are known to have died in the blaze, | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
A lot has happened in the last 14 days, with scenes of anger | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
and despair but also hope, resilience and a fearsome community | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
Holly Hamilton looks at what we know so far. | :39:52. | :39:59. | |
At its height, 40 fire engines and more than 200 firefighters battled | :40:00. | :40:07. | |
the blaze. Dozens were rescued but despite their efforts, 79 people are | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
now known to have died. The fire started in a fridge freezer but what | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
caused it to spread so quickly will be key to the investigation. The | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
focus so far has been on the cladding. Samples from 95 towers in | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
32 local authority areas in England have all failed by a safety tests. | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
The government was criticised for its slow response to the tragedy, | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
but has since announced a full public enquiry, ?5 million fund for | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
the victims and a promise to rehouse all those affected in the local | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
area. The tragedy has evoked a huge outpouring of support. Millions of | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
pounds have been donated as well as clothing, food and other essentials. | :40:49. | :40:50. | |
Simon Jones is in west London for us this morning. | :40:51. | :40:53. | |
Good morning to you once again, Simon. Can I start by asking about | :40:54. | :41:00. | |
this countrywide investigation into high-rise cladding. Where are we | :41:01. | :41:09. | |
with that at the moment? So far 95 high-rise buildings from 32 | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
different local authorities have had their cladding tested and there's | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
been a 100% failure rate. Local authorities are being told to | :41:20. | :41:22. | |
prioritise the buildings they have most concerned about but it appears | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
the tests are extremely stringent, perhaps more strong than the tests | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
that were taking place before the cladding was put on the buildings. | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
It's not just high-rises that are being tested, we're also told nine | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
NHS trusts have buildings that have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower, | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
they will need to be tested. Schools are being told to check any | :41:47. | :41:50. | |
buildings Oar storeys or taller, perhaps not for the testing but look | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
at what the cladding is made of to see if there's any concerns about | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
bad gash four. What about the residents, we will be speaking to | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
them live later on, but two weeks after the terrible incidents, what | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
is the general feeling among residents? -- four. I think the mood | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
has changed. I spent a lot of time there over the last couple of weeks. | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
Initially it was shock, then Greece, then anger and I think now once | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
again what we're hearing is that residents want to get their voices | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
heard -- then grief. We got the nearby Notting Hill Methodist church | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
and this has become a focus for some of the outpouring of grief, you've | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
got flowers and posters showing pictures of the many now feared | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
dead. Lots of people in the local community got together and they've | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
written an open letter saying they want to be an active part of the | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
public enquiry, they don't want to be brushed aside. What they want to | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
make sure it is their voices are heard and on top of this they're | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
demanding anyone found to be responsible for what happened in the | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
tower, and those that didn't deal with the aftermath very well, the | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
local authorities, should be brought to justice. So a very strong feeling | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
here two weeks on, perhaps a moment of reflection but people here saying | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
they're determined their voices are heard. Simon, thank you for that | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
this morning. Simon Jones, nearby to Grenfell Tower. Wheel bespeak into a | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
number of residents later in the programme to get more information | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
about how the feeling has changed in the two weeks -- we'll be speaking | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
to. Will have people who were in the tower and those who had friends | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
there. -- we'll have. And all so we'll get something from those | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
trying to improve safety at the building. If you've looked out of | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
the building chances are it's not looking great. Not the best but | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
Carol is here with a positive spin. Rain is crucial, rain is your | :43:52. | :43:53. | |
friend? Lots of people are crying out for | :43:54. | :44:02. | |
rain and we've seen a lot of rain tonight and it is raining heavily in | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
some parts of England and Wales in particular. If you are travelling, | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
expect a lot of surface water and spray on the roads. On the radar | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
picture you can see the extent of the rainfall. At the moment it is | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
heaviest in parts of east Anglia and Lincolnshire, but it is rotating | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
around low pressure, succumbing in across eastern parts of England, | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
Wales and down into the south-west. Even across central parts of | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
southern England with got the rain. In between there's a lot of cloud | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
and it is quite muggy start to the day again. These are the | :44:35. | :44:37. | |
temperatures you can expect. Not far off now. In northern England again a | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
lot of cloud and a couple of showers. Some of the rain edging | :44:44. | :44:46. | |
into Northern Ireland. For Scotland you will have the driest weather | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
today. That doesn't mean you have wall-to-wall blue skies. There will | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
be a lot of cloud, with brighter breaks, and drizzly bits and pieces. | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
The other thing is down the east coast we have an onshore wind, so | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
things will feel cold, especially if you have the rain. The wind just | :45:03. | :45:08. | |
blowing inland. Across some parts with exposure there will be gales. | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
The rain will advance northwards through the day. We will have some | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
bright interludes develop. As temperatures rise that could spark | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
thundery downpours. Northern Ireland drying off as the rain pushes away. | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
Scotland remaining largely dry through the afternoon. Through this | :45:27. | :45:29. | |
evening and overnight still the wind will be a feature, pushing down | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
through the Irish Sea and the English Channel. You can see how the | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
rain migrates northwards, getting across northern England, in true | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
Scotland and back into Northern Ireland, curling across southern | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
areas as well. Temperature wise, 11- 12. Tomorrow a game we have a bit of | :45:48. | :45:55. | |
a change. The difference pushing up the Scotland at Northern Ireland. | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
Trifle England and Wales, except for in the south-west, where we have | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
that rain. In any sunshine we could have up to 20 Celsius as we move | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
further north. It will feel cooler in the rain, 12- 15. On the | :46:09. | :46:15. | |
coastline it will feel colder still. As we had from Thursday into Friday | :46:16. | :46:19. | |
the low pressure is still very much driving the weather and is with us | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
for much of the week, but you can see that it starts to swing round | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
and will then pull back. As it does so it is dragging the weather front | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
with it, so the rain around the weather front will start to pull | :46:32. | :46:34. | |
back towards the south-east. Behind it brighter skies. The wind changes | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
to a cooler direction and we have high as in London of 22 Celsius. | :46:39. | :46:46. | |
Thank you. We shall see you throughout the morning. | :46:47. | :46:48. | |
Carol finding optimism in the rain. In a few minutes, the financial | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
regulator is set to announce a crackdown on the hidden fees | :46:53. | :46:55. | |
charged on our pensions. Open question. What's going on? | :46:56. | :47:04. | |
Explain! It's a bit complicated, but I will | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
do my best. This is scrutiny for people who manage our money. Our | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
investments, pensions, all of that. When we take out a pension they | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
invest it in the stock market and we hope they will give us a return at | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
will fund our retirement. The market is worth about ?7 trillion, is worth | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
thinking about. A lot of money. That's why the regulator is getting | :47:27. | :47:29. | |
involved and they say it involves all sorts of things, where it's a | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
personal or work pension. Maybe it is some of the people who have a | :47:38. | :47:40. | |
defined contribution pension scheme. You put your money in, every month, | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
that's invested in the stock market and you hope you get a bigger | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
return. The regulator says it is vital but there's not much scrutiny | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
of the charges and fees imposed on these and where you make an | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
investment it could cost you thousands of pounds in costs and | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
that's really important. They say it is about improving transparency. Let | :48:03. | :48:05. | |
me talk you through some of the numbers. It affects three quarters | :48:06. | :48:09. | |
of all UK households that have a pension. And as more and more of us | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
get involved in where that money is going, it is very crucial that we | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
keep a night on how the money is being invested. The Financial | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
Conduct Authority wants better scrutiny of those charges and fees | :48:23. | :48:25. | |
and says we simply aren't getting value for money, we don't really | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
have any idea of where the money is being invested and what these we are | :48:31. | :48:33. | |
asked to pay on it. This is a staggering statistic. The research | :48:34. | :48:40. | |
suggests you could be ?14 and ?400 worse off from making a single bad | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
decision about where your money is put and that I think is a staggering | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
amount of money and that's what the originator wants to come down on. | :48:48. | :48:55. | |
They are big decisions. How can you make them and know what will happen? | :48:56. | :49:01. | |
At the moment there's no way of getting clarity on the transparency. | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
It is interesting to raise the ?400 issue. Say someone said to you, on | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
your fund we will charge you a quarter of a percent every year, all | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
we can charge you 1% every year and a little bit more for a transaction. | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
It doesn't seem like a big difference. .75% of the difference, | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
but it could equate to ?14,000 worse off over the 20 years that your | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
pension is invested, or it is very clear that you have to look at the | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
small print and the regulator says it has to be very clear. They will | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
clamp down on this old boys club, we all of the money is sloshing around, | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
they are charging fees without anyone giving it any real scrutiny. | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
So they will make it transparent and clear and people can make the | :49:44. | :49:44. | |
decisions. Thank you. | :49:45. | :49:47. | |
You know when you throw a trillion around? By Matt Stieger said | :49:48. | :49:51. | |
something I always remembered. -- maths teacher. 1,000,000,000th | :49:52. | :49:57. | |
second is 12 days, a billion seconds is 32 years and 1 trillion seconds | :49:58. | :50:02. | |
is about 31,000 years. I've never heard of it like that. | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
Then you get the scale of how much bigger they are. | :50:08. | :50:14. | |
Thank you. By Matt Stieger! -- maths teacher. | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
If you're a man who's a bit on the larger side, | :50:20. | :50:22. | |
you might have tried a few diets and weight loss groups, | :50:23. | :50:25. | |
which end up being targeted at women. | :50:26. | :50:27. | |
But now a football league, specifically for overweight men has | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
Kat Downes is pitch side in Manchester for us this morning. | :50:31. | :50:41. | |
It has an interesting name as well. Yes, it is called Man V Fat. If you | :50:42. | :50:50. | |
want to lose weight you might go to the gym, joined join a zumba class. | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
For these people none of that worked. What has worked is playing | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
football with a group of guys. You might be a bit overweight and you | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
want to shed the pounds. It works if you do it together. In a minute I | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
will talk to some of these super slimmers and find out more about | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
their stories. Here is a quick look at how it works. | :51:15. | :51:21. | |
This is my first season and I've lost 3.5 stone. I am enjoying life | :51:22. | :51:30. | |
better. I feel I am getting more out of it. Hang on! There you go. IT HAS | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
MADE ME A LOT FITTER. And a lot thinner. I am still rubbish at | :51:38. | :51:45. | |
football! Rubbish or the next Reynaldo! That doesn't matter here. | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
What counts is shedding the stones. As well as goals on the pitch... | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
Teams get bonus calls for the amount of weight they lose together. I | :51:56. | :52:02. | |
really struggled to lose weight through the years, joined a lot of | :52:03. | :52:05. | |
the commercial weight loss organisations and obviously so many | :52:06. | :52:10. | |
of the people voted those are women and it just felt it wasn't quite | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
right for me. There was a lot of talk about fitting into a bikini and | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
so really it was about finding something that was suitable for men, | :52:19. | :52:21. | |
something that would really empower them, something that would help them | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
to lose weight and that's where Man V Fat football came from. It works, | :52:27. | :52:30. | |
thanks to teamwork. When we first started we had a tiny room and it | :52:31. | :52:36. | |
ended up with the whole team cramming into this tiny rooms, | :52:37. | :52:40. | |
because they were supporting each other and cheering each other on and | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
wanting each other to do well. This league in Manchester isn't the only | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
one. There are 24 a the country. That's 3000 men getting out, playing | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
football and losing weight and in around 1.5 years they've lost a | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
combined total of more than 30 times! -- 30 times. You've lost four | :52:58. | :53:07. | |
kilos this week! Ross has lost 4.5 stone since January. Before this he | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
found there was nothing accessible for guys like him who wanted to lose | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
weight. You are looking at your men's fitness which is about a | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
sixpack, getting your abs and work out and show your muscles. Those | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
lads, we are nowhere near that. We need to lose weight confidently and | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
if it is having a group of lads taking the Mickey out of you and | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
doing it that way it's perfect, absolutely perfect. With the tons | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
ticking away, it proves that whatever works for you is the best | :53:37. | :53:37. | |
in the battle for the bulge. This leak has only been going for | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
about a year and a half and these guys already have a lot of great | :53:45. | :53:47. | |
stories about how much weight they have lost. I am going to talk to the | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
founder. Banks are having us this morning and getting these guys out | :53:52. | :53:54. | |
to play football. -- thanks for having us. We have pictures of how | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
you looked before you lost weight, equals it was about your personal | :53:59. | :54:01. | |
journey that led this, wasn't it? Exactly. When I was trying to lose | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
weight myself I found all of the support groups and products were | :54:06. | :54:08. | |
aimed exclusively at women and I wanted to find something that would | :54:09. | :54:12. | |
actually support meant and provide accountability and support for | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
normal guys around the country. How does it work? Your goals on the | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
pitch are combined with weight loss. How does it work? Before each game | :54:21. | :54:25. | |
the players weigh in and the weight loss goals they accrue during those | :54:26. | :54:29. | |
weigh ins are added to the goals they score on the pitch and | :54:30. | :54:33. | |
essentially that's how we create our tables. There are obviously leads | :54:34. | :54:37. | |
across the country now for men who want to lose weight and who are | :54:38. | :54:40. | |
looking for something that's a bit Morse eatable for them. It seems to | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
be working brilliantly. And thanks to Karen, who is the dietician here. | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
This isn't just about playing 30 minutes of football week, it is | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
about making a life change? It is. Traditionally men's seed dieting as | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
something women do. So obviously the increased physical exercise is | :55:01. | :55:07. | |
important, but we have to underpin that with three regular meals, | :55:08. | :55:10. | |
reducing snacking, those sorts of things and I am there to support | :55:11. | :55:14. | |
those lifestyle changes. So this is a way for men to get into weight | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
loss, not just losing weight by taking exercise, it is about making | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
life changes and changing the way you live and eat and how you think | :55:22. | :55:27. | |
as well. We just heard from Ross. Sorry to interrupt you, but a great | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
story from you as well. What was it that prompted you to make the | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
change? There were quite a few things. Health reasons, things like | :55:36. | :55:40. | |
that. One of them, mainly, was around wanting to go out and do | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
skydive and there are weight limits, about 13.5 stone. That's what I was | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
aiming for. Stupidly my mum and my wife said that if I lost weight they | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
would come with me. Now I am at 15 stone, so they are panicking, but | :55:57. | :55:59. | |
I'm getting close to it now! So you only have half a stone to go before | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
your wife and mother jump out of a plane with you? Yes, and I hope they | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
remember it! I can't wait. Proof if it is needed that perhaps a | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
competitive edge is just what you need to lose the weight. The stakes | :56:13. | :56:15. | |
couldn't be higher. Congratulations on losing 4.5 stone? Since January | :56:16. | :56:23. | |
the 20th, so just over five months. It turns out that | :56:24. | :56:24. | |
teamwork is the key to shedding the pounds. | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
Really quickly. If he does lose all of that weight, is he still allowed | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
to play on the team? I think once you have lost the | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
weight, do your team try to dump you? Because you get extra goals for | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
losing the weight, so once you are skinny they say, hang on, you aren't | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
scoring the goal is? One of our guys has dropped below | :56:48. | :56:53. | |
the limit, but he can still play for us and get goals on the pitch. We | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
want to break up the team! We're champions! Champions in weight | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
loss and on the pitch. A combined victory. | :57:04. | :57:06. | |
Good to hear. I was worried for him. An important | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
question you were worried about. More on that later. | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. | :57:14. | :00:32. | |
Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. | :00:33. | :00:40. | |
After a near 30-year battle, the families of those who died | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
at Hillsborough will find out this morning whether anyone | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
It follows two separate enquires into what happened on the day | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
of the match and whether there was a cover-up afterwards. | :00:51. | :01:07. | |
Good morning, it's Wednesday, 28th of June. | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
Two weeks on from the Grenfell fire disaster and we learn what it's like | :01:14. | :01:28. | |
for those who have left their homes. officers says that a reduction | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
in stop-and-search has led Victims tell Breakfast | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
more needs to be done. Are you paying thousands of pounds | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
too much in hidden fees The regulator is to announce | :01:39. | :01:50. | |
a crackdown on firms that manage our money but why | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
are we still getting a raw deal? In sport... | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
Not again. England lose to | :02:01. | :02:02. | |
Germany on penalties. Nathan Redmond's miss means | :02:03. | :02:04. | |
they fail to make the final of the Under-21 European | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
Championship. I'm here playing some early morning | :02:08. | :02:20. | |
football with these guys to find out how team work has helped these men | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
and 3000 others like them around the country lose a combined total of 30 | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
tons in weight. For England, Wales and Northern | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
Ireland some rain on the cards, some of it will be heavy | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
but as temperatures rise The driest conditions today | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
are likely to be in Scotland. The families of those who died | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
at Hillsborough will find out later this morning whether anyone | :02:42. | :02:52. | |
will face criminal charges. An inquest ruled last year | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
that the 96 Liverpool fans who died at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989 | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
were unlawfully killed. Our North of England correspondent | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
Judith Moritz reports. # Walk on, walk on, | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
with hope in your heart...# It was a moment of history, | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
the inquest's finding last year that 96 Liverpool | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
fans were unlawfully For their families, | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
it was justice, but their legal Steve Kelly lost his brother | :03:17. | :03:25. | |
Michael in the disaster. He's spent the 28 years since then | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
calling for those responsible There's got to be | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
this accountability. It's paramount in this whole case | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
and you know, to truly let The fans were killed | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded | :03:45. | :03:56. | |
during the 1989 FA Cup semifinal. Since 2012, there have been | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
two criminal inquiries Operation Resolve investigated | :04:00. | :04:01. | |
the day of the disaster. Offences considered include gross | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
negligence manslaughter. One of those waiting | :04:06. | :04:13. | |
to hear whether he'll face charges is former | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, | :04:17. | :04:18. | |
who was the South Yorkshire The police watchdog, the IPCC, | :04:19. | :04:20. | |
investigated cover-up allegations, It considered offences including | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
misconduct in a public office and perverting | :04:25. | :04:32. | |
the course of justice. The former West Yorkshire chief | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
constable, Sir Norman Bettison, has revealed that he's been treated | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
as a suspect by the IPCC. It isn't known whether | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
he wail face charges. Hundreds of investigators have been | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
working from these offices for the last four years | :04:47. | :04:48. | |
at a cost of ?100 million. There is an expectation that | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
charges will be brought, after such a long wait | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
and such large-scale effort. That decision will be | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
announced to the families We'll have coverage of that across | :04:57. | :05:05. | |
the BBC this morning. Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower | :05:06. | :05:15. | |
fire, Theresa May has called for a major national investigation | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
into the use of cladding Every one of the samples tested | :05:20. | :05:19. | |
from 95 buildings across England Our reporter Simon Jones is in west | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
London for us this morning. You can see people have been laying | :05:25. | :05:38. | |
tributes to the victims at this church. Good morning, Simon. | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
Yesterday it was announced an independent panel has been assembled | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
to advise on safety measures. What more can you tell us? Some | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
controversy about that this morning, it is chaired by Sir Ken Knight, a | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
former London fire commissioner, and in a previous investigation into a | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
fire in Camberwell that killed six, he advised against the retrospective | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
fitting of sprinklers in the high-rise buildings in all cases | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
because he said sometimes it's not practical economically or it's not | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
viable to do that. What we've got here, though, two weeks on our many | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
questions still left unanswered, how many people died in the fire, why | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
are so many buildings now failing the safety test? To give you a sense | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
of where we are, this is the church that's become a site for many people | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
to pay tributes, to bring flowers, posters of those who have lost their | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
lives. Then it's very much in the shadow of Grenfell Tower. It's not | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
just tower blocks causing concern. We've got nine NHS trusts who also | :06:46. | :06:53. | |
have cladding similar to Grenfell Tower and that will be tested and | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
schools are being told to check the cladding on buildings hire van four | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
storeys to see what they are made of -- hire than. | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
Local people want to be heard here. They want to make sure any failings | :07:10. | :07:17. | |
during the aftermath should be brought to justice. We will be | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
speaking to some of the residents later in the programme. | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
Iain Watson joins us from Westminster. | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
I know Labour is going to be talking about Grenfell Tower today and about | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
funding for emergency services, what more can you tell us? That's right, | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
I'm George Ezra will be accused of trying to politicise the tragedy at | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
Grenfell Tower but his approach doesn't seem to be harming him in | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
the opinion polls -- Jeremy Corbyn. He's called for more funding for the | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
police and fire service since the tragedy took place and today he is | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
trying to amend at the Queens speech, the government programme for | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
the next two years, to try to guarantee the funding but he won't | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
win because Theresa May now has the support of ten MPs from Northern | :08:05. | :08:14. | |
Ireland, the DUM ps, so she can vote down his attempt but what he will | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
try to do is win the odd and Andy Baris Conservative MPs at the same | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
time -- DUP. Some conservatives who lost at the last election are saying | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
on the doorsteps people felt public sector cuts had gone on for too | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
long. -- DUP MPs --... The government will say if you want | :08:28. | :08:43. | |
decent public services, you need a strong economy to deliver them and | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
they say that something Labour simply can't do. Thank you very | :08:47. | :08:48. | |
much. More from Westminster later. Sinn Fein has accused | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
the Democratic Unionist Party of failing to give any ground | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
in talks to restore devolved They say there had been no movement | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
on the rights of Irish speakers But the DUP has insisted it has no | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
red lines and accused Sinn Fein of being involved | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
in a high-wire act. The deadline for reaching a deal | :09:06. | :09:07. | |
is tomorrow afternoon. Services providing support | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
for people who are older and disabled face more cuts, | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
despite extra money being put That's according to research | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
by the directors of adult social The report says more than two thirds | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
of local authorities had to dip into their financial reserves last | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
year to meet increasing demand. Our social affairs correspondent | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
Allison Holt reports. One of the UK's rarest birds of prey | :09:27. | :09:43. | |
is heading towards extinction There are just four breeding pairs | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
of hen harriers left, and numbers are declining fast | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
across the rest of the UK. Even in the bird's traditional | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
stronghold of Scotland, The reasons include illegal | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
persecution and destruction They are beautiful | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
creatures, aren't they? You get a real sense there of how | :09:59. | :10:15. | |
stunning they are. Want to watch these pictures closely. I still | :10:16. | :10:16. | |
can't believe it! -- you want to. A pedestrian has had a miraculous | :10:17. | :10:18. | |
escape after being struck by a bus When we showed this personally | :10:19. | :10:30. | |
someone said they spilt their cereal over their dog so what this | :10:31. | :10:32. | |
carefully! We must warn you that some people | :10:33. | :10:33. | |
might find these pictures It is disturbing to watch | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
but he survived and he's OK. A quiet morning in Reading until | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
this spectacular accident happened. The man on the receiving end | :10:41. | :10:42. | |
of the bus, Simon Smith, should by rights be | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
seriously injured or worse. So it's nothing short of astonishing | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
when he calmly gets up and walks Simon can't to talk to the BBC | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
for legal reasons but his friends We called Simon a few hours | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
after the day of the accident He was still in shock basically, | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
he couldn't believe what happened. I just can't believe Simon got up, | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
dusted himself off and walked The scars the bus left as it hit | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
this wall coming to a stop Many here think that it | :11:11. | :11:26. | |
careered around the corner because of a mechanical failure, | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
but that's now the subject Reading Buses says it's | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
shocked by the incident It's sharing the bus's | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
on-board CCTV with police. As you might expect this | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
footage has now gone viral. The main comment, most people admire | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
the way Simon just kept calm Then he gets up and he walks into | :11:49. | :12:04. | |
the nearest building, which happened to be a pub. Good on him! He's OK, | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
the best news to come out of that but it is actually quite terrifying | :12:11. | :12:12. | |
to watch! For the second time in less than two | :12:13. | :12:13. | |
months, a computer virus is sweeping A large-scale cyber attack that | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
started in Ukraine has been taking A British advertising agency | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
is among the companies that Yesterday's cyber attack seems to be | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
similar to the one that struck Our security correspondent | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
Gordon Corera has more. During the day it became clear that | :12:29. | :12:39. | |
the problem was not contained in Ukraine but was spreading. Reports | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
came in of companies affected from Russia, across Europe to the UK and | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
also the US. Those affected included oil producers, shipping and | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
pharmaceutical companies and a London based advertising group. They | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
were all faced with a screen like this, telling them they've been | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
locked out of their computer and needed to pay a ransom to get back | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
in. Computer systems which have not been upgraded or patched are usually | :13:06. | :13:07. | |
the most vulnerable. Our security correspondent | :13:08. | :13:08. | |
Gordon Corera there. Joining us now is technology | :13:09. | :13:10. | |
expert Tom Cheesewright. He knows a thing or two about these | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
things! I think we spoke to you last time there was a cyber attack. | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
What's the difference with this one, it spread really quickly. We talked | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
about the one that affected the NHS, what are the key differences here? | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
The first is how it got out there, it was uploaded into a Ukrainian tax | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
system and it spread from that system to anybody that downloaded a | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
software update from there, that gets into all sorts of organisations | :13:40. | :13:49. | |
that deal with them. From there it had three or four different ways of | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
spreading across networks through organisations inside the Ukraine and | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
international organisations. We don't know of any other ways it | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
spread outside that, typically e-mails, phishing e-mails that | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
encourage people to download the software. From what you can read | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
into it, does it seem aimed at Ukraine, deliberately targeting | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
them? What points us into that direction is it started with this | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
software in the Ukraine, secondly it doesn't on second reflection looked | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
like a piece of ransomware. The core code of the system seems very | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
sophisticated, it's taking advantage of lots of different flaws in | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
software to spread quickly through networks. The piece of software | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
written to collect the money is basically rubbish. It is very | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
simplistic. It's not about the cash? No, it is just a poor disguise. | :14:36. | :14:44. | |
They've only been paid about ?8,000, which has affected so many people, | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
so maybe it's not about the money. How can businesses protect | :14:49. | :14:50. | |
themselves? Is it like drug testing, they are ahead in terms of the | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
technology they use that you can use to fight against this? This isn't | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
like someone pointing a gun at you but like a flu virus spreading, it | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
gets the old and infirm first so you have to make sure your systems are | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
up to date and if possible you've upgraded to the latest versions of | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
the software and you have good antivirus in place and good backups | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
but most of all you have to make sure your users and your setup in | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
terms of policy is right. If things do get in that means they can't | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
spread quickly. Other systems especially vulnerable | :15:20. | :15:28. | |
at the moment or the attackers are becoming more sophisticated? Part of | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
the problem is the NSA was stopped tiling what it called cyber weapons. | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
They were stopped piling weapons for getting into different computers. -- | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
stockpiling. These were then shared with the public and now lots of | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
cyber criminals are using these weapons in attacks. So these weapons | :15:48. | :15:57. | |
feature in the software and allow it to spread rapidly across networks. | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
This use of cyber attacks, we had the Defence Secretary Michael Fallon | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
speaking yesterday about the use of cyber attacks against Isis, which | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
have been successful, so whichever you look at it this is the future. | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
This is the new battleground and there is some evidence that this is | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
a target at Ukraine, and it is based on where it started and what it has | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
caused. Hats this is a cyber attack on Ukraine. We've seen it attacked | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
the Chernobyl nuclear reactor, so it is taking down the automated | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
checking of levels, which is very dangerous. Affecting the movement of | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
all sorts of goods around the world as well. Thank you. | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
I fear we will have to talk to you again. | :16:47. | :16:48. | |
Why don't you just stay there! Something we also always talk about, | :16:49. | :16:56. | |
the weather. Good morning. I've got quite a lot of rain this morning and | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
overnight. If you are travelling first thing watch out for extra | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
surface water and spray on the roads. On the radar picture what you | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
will find this we have seen a lot of rain. Some parts have had two inches | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
over the course of the night. At the moment the heaviest rain is in east | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
Anglia, through Cambridgeshire and into Lincolnshire. This rain is | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
rotating around low pressure. This morning it is wet in Wales, | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
south-west England, towards south-east England and east Anglia. | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
In between the rain there are some drier interludes. We lose the cloud | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
around and there is drizzle. But it isn't a cold start to the day. For | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
more than England it is dry at the moment, at the rain is on its way | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
from Northern Ireland. Rain moving east and south through the day and | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
for Scotland you will have the driest weather today across the | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
whole of the UK. That doesn't mean wall-to-wall blue skies. There will | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
be quite a lot of cloud at times. Down the east coast of Scotland and | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
England you will find the onshore flow will be quite windy and it will | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
feel cold. Especially if you combine that with the rain. The rain moves | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
away from the south-east. It will brighten up through the day as | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
temperatures worries it could spark shunter we showers. -- as the | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
temperatures rise it could spark a thundery showers. England, Scotland | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
and Northern Ireland will see the rain. It never leaves the south-east | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
and it calls back in again. Temperatures are in double figures | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
in cities. Lower than that in rural areas. Tomorrow it is Scotland, | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
northern England and Northern Ireland with the rain. Some of it | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
still fringing in the west of Wales. A lot of dry weather for the rest of | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
England and Wales. Temperatures tomorrow in the south, 16- 20 | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
Celsius. If you are stuck under the rain in the north it will be the | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
cooler. 12- 14. As we had through Thursday, into Friday, this low | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
pressure, which is dominating at the moment, starts to sink further | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
south. The weather front is dragged southwards with it. On Friday itself | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
here is the band of rain associated with it. You can see how it is | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
fragmenting on the Western front. Still heavy at times and still keen | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
wind, but this time it is coming from the north, which is a | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
direction. Nonetheless, London could still hit 22 Celsius. As we head | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
into the weekend it will be drier and brighter. That doesn't mean it | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
will be dry and bright all the time, because there will be some Atlantic | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
fronts coming from the west. But we don't expect them to be as heavy or | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
produce as much rain as we have seen all are going to see today. | :19:44. | :19:53. | |
Thank you very much. Ben is with us, looking at some of the main business | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
stories. We have been talking about the clampdown from the regulator, | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
the financial Rigoletto, one of these we pay on our pensions. | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
They've just unveiled a crackdown, the Financial Conduct Authority, | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
after complaints that firms are charging too much on this. The | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
market is worth ?7 trillion but it is unclear what visa being imposed | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
and higher fees are eating into the value of our retirement savings. It | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
is important because three quarters of all UK households currently have | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
a pension that is invested in the stock market. More for you on that | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
in about half an hour. Elsewhere, Toshiba has failed to sell its | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
memory business, despite plans to sell it to the Japanese government. | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
It needs to sell the firm for about $18 billion to pay for its failed US | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
nuclear business that collapsed earlier this year. Without a deal | :20:47. | :20:54. | |
the future of Toshiba remains in doubt and the whole firm could | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
collapse as a result. More than three quarters of the population of | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
the world now uses Facebook. It announced it has 2 billion people | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
using the site, 13 years after it was founded by Mark Zuckerberg at | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
Harvard. He famously dropped out of university after globe on the -- | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
launching the global networking site. But critics long predicted the | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
demise of the firm, as Snapchat and Instagram it into user numbers. 2 | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
billion for Facebook! Not a bad figure for someone who set it up at | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
university. Absolutely amazing. Thank you and see you later. | :21:35. | :21:36. | |
Flipping out the numbers today! First introduced as a way | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
of combating crime, the power to stop-and-search members | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
of the public is one of the most controversial aspects | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
of British policing. In England and Wales, | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
its use has more than halved But, in an exclusive interview, | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
one of England's most senior police chiefs has told Breakfast | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
he believes the drop in stop-and-search has led | :21:57. | :21:58. | |
to a rise in knife crime. Our reporter Tim Muffett | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
has the story. Everytime I go down, | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
people are walking past and it's just a normal day, but that's | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
where my life ended, On the same street in Leicester | :22:11. | :22:12. | |
where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015, Sean | :22:13. | :22:27. | |
was attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back, | :22:28. | :22:36. | |
which went straight into my artery. If I didn't survive this | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
could be my mum sitting here feeling Amy and Shaun believe jail sentences | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
for knife possession should be longer and that police should be | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
stopping and searching more If the stop-and-search was more | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
present, then I believe my son Across England and Wales, | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
police are stopping and searching In 2011, there were more | :22:57. | :23:11. | |
than 100,000 stop and searches. According to the most recent | :23:12. | :23:20. | |
Home Office figures that number has Those figures relate to searches | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
for offensive weapons. Since 2011, overall knife crime has | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
fallen, but in the past two years it Stop-and-search legally done | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
is an absolutely vital part Like all police chiefs, | :23:32. | :23:38. | |
Mike Barton was told by the Home Office in 2014 that | :23:39. | :23:48. | |
stop-and-search needed reform. It should be intelligence-led, | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
more effectively targeted. Do you think there's a link | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
between a national decrease in stop-and-search and the recent | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
to say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
a reasonable hypothesis. They are members of Break the Chain, | :24:12. | :24:25. | |
a London-based group of volunteers. Carrying a knife is normalised, | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
like wearing socks. How do you feel about | :24:30. | :24:31. | |
carrying a knife? They believe talking to people | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
is the best way to dissuade them Cairo has himself been | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
stopped and searched. The van stopped and they | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
slammed open the door. When I asked them why I was searched | :24:41. | :24:48. | |
they said I looked nervous. I've never been in | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
trouble with the police. If you drive past in a van and stare | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
at me, I'm going to be nervous. Stop-and-search needs | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
to be dealt with better. West Midlands Police training centre | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
and a stop-and-search This force believes fewer searches | :25:06. | :25:07. | |
can be just as effective. Since 2011-2012 we have reduced | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
the amount of stop and searches that we conduct, but the arrest rate | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
from that remains exactly the same, so it would appear now that we are | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
targeting the right people, The Home Office says it supports | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
stop-and-search when carried out properly and that there is no proven | :25:28. | :25:35. | |
link between a number of searches But as a police tactic, | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
it remains controversial. Later we'll be speaking to a member | :25:40. | :25:46. | |
of the race equality organisation, the Runnymede Trust, | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
looking at the issue of racial Also to come this morning: Have | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
you ever heard of Man v Fat? It's a football | :25:54. | :26:01. | |
league for obese men. Kat's at the Soccer in the city | :26:02. | :26:03. | |
stadium in Manchester for us. It is all about losing weight. It | :26:04. | :26:15. | |
started two years ago and they've lost a combined total of 4000 stone! | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
And you get goals for the amount of weight you have lost! Amazing. | :26:22. | :26:22. | |
Really fascinating. More on that Hello, this is Breakfast, | :26:23. | :29:42. | |
with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. A decision on whether people | :29:43. | :29:56. | |
and organisations will face criminal disaster will be announced this | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
morning. The Crown Prosecution Service | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
will reveal its intentions at a meeting with victims' | :30:03. | :30:04. | |
relatives this morning. 96 Liverpool fans died | :30:05. | :30:06. | |
when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
during the 1989 FA Cup semi final. Steve Kelly's brother, Michael, | :30:10. | :30:17. | |
died in the disaster. It's paramount in this whole case | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
and you know, to truly let News on that throughout the day | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
for you across the BBC. Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower | :30:27. | :30:39. | |
fire, Theresa May has called for a major national investigation | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
into the use of potentially flammable cladding | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
on high rise buildings. Every one of the samples tested | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
from 95 buildings across England Last night the government confirmed | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
all school buildings over four storeys tall are having | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
their external cladding analysed Labour says it will challenge MPs | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
today to oppose further austerity. The party will call for more | :30:56. | :31:02. | |
spending on the police and fire services as an amendment | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
to the Queen's Speech, as well as an end to the 1% cap | :31:06. | :31:07. | |
on public sector pay rises. The Conservatives say only | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
they will deliver the economy needed to properly fund the | :31:12. | :31:14. | |
emergency services. Computer systems around the world | :31:15. | :31:22. | |
have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks, | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
retailers, energy firms The companies have been | :31:26. | :31:27. | |
told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
say it's more sophisticated than the virus used in a global | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
attack last month, which badly hit One of the UK's rarest birds of prey | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
is heading towards extinction There are just four breeding pairs | :31:39. | :31:47. | |
of hen harriers left, and numbers are declining fast | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
across the rest of the UK. Even in the bird's traditional | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
stronghold of Scotland, The reasons include illegal | :31:56. | :31:57. | |
persecution and destruction Time for my favourite story of the | :31:58. | :32:00. | |
day! Cow news with a difference! started playing her ukulele | :32:01. | :32:20. | |
to a herd of cows in Llandudno. Here she is with just | :32:21. | :32:28. | |
a few of the herd watching, and before too long, | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
she was joined by many more Then she's got a massive crowd like | :32:32. | :32:48. | |
the Pied Piper. You know what we would call that if she worked in the | :32:49. | :32:58. | |
newspaper industry? Mukele! She said you can't be here all night, Monday! | :32:59. | :33:06. | |
Mukele! They play music to cows when they are milking them! What for, | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
why? May be to relax them. Cows really like music. Bella's .be... | :33:13. | :33:23. | |
Hold on a minute, going to say it again, mukelele! | :33:24. | :33:26. | |
England fans are used to it, though, aren't they? Too many times. England | :33:27. | :33:41. | |
under 21s lost to Germany in the European Championship semi-final | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
yesterday on penalties. Do we practice loads? Or do we do what the | :33:45. | :33:50. | |
Germans say they did, not practice at all and turn up and have a go? | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
I'm not sure I believe them by the looks of that penalty shootout. | :33:56. | :33:56. | |
Once again, England have lost the semi-final of a football | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
This time it was the Under 21s European Championship, | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
the lead through Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
But the Germans levelled and after extra time, | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
Nathan Redmond penalty was saved and the side followed the fate | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996. | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
you would put odds on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
a great save so we'll have to take that. | :34:25. | :34:26. | |
It's been a real team effort and I think we can be pleased | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
And in the end we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
It's only 25 days since Real Madrid won the Champions League | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
but this season's competition is already under way! | :34:41. | :34:42. | |
Despite a stunning goal from Scott Quigley, | :34:43. | :34:44. | |
Welsh champions the New Saints lost 2-1 to Europa FC of Gibraltar | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
Fifa officials investigating alleged corruption were told plans | :34:49. | :34:59. | |
for England to play a friendly in Thailand to win backing | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
for their own World Cup bid were a form of bribery. | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
The former FA Chairman Geoff Thompson made | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
the admission when interviewed during a Fifa enquiry | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
into the bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
England's cricketers thrashed Pakistan to get | :35:13. | :35:21. | |
their Women's World Cup campaign back on track. | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
Natalie Sivver and captain Heather Knight both hit their first | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
as England reached a record-breaking 377-7. | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
Pakistan never got close, the rain intervened, | :35:33. | :35:33. | |
It was exciting to watch, watching Nat at the other end | :35:34. | :35:45. | |
It's the type of cricket we want to play, we wanna be | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
exciting and we wanna show what we can do. | :35:51. | :35:52. | |
We all know Nat can do that and to see her go out and do | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
that is obviously brilliant from our perspective, | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
but it's a great performance obviously but there's a lot more | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
cricket to be played in this tournament. | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
Novak Djokovic had entered the Aegon International | :36:05. | :36:05. | |
in Eastbourne with hopes of gaining some much-needed grass court | :36:06. | :36:08. | |
but spent a lot of yesterday twiddling his thumbs. | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
The former world number one had taken the first game | :36:13. | :36:14. | |
against Canada's Vasek Pospisil when the rains came | :36:15. | :36:17. | |
From what Carol has been saying, I'm not sure they'll have much luck. | :36:18. | :36:28. | |
While the current world number one Andy Murray pulled out | :36:29. | :36:31. | |
of an exhibition match at the Hurlingham Club in London, | :36:32. | :36:34. | |
He is still expected to play at the Club on Friday before | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
beginning the defence of his Wimbledon title | :36:40. | :36:41. | |
on Centre Court on Monday afternoon. | :36:42. | :36:42. | |
He did play earlier in the day yesterday and maybe he felt some | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
soreness during that training match and decided not to continue and play | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
hours of tennis. Nothing too much too worried about but he needed the | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
rest. Rest is a good thing! You're going to be not on the sofa for the | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
next couple of weeks? The next fortnight from Wimbledon, I am so | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
lucky, I love my job and this is my favourite time of year, one of my | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
favourite things to do, Wimbledon fortnight with Carol. Can it get any | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
better than that? Breakfast with Carol every morning, it's the dream! | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
I'm living it! A competition now with a difference, | :37:17. | :37:28. | |
Man V Fat. 24 leagues have been set up to help big men lose weight. Set | :37:29. | :37:33. | |
up 20 years ago, the men so far have lost a combined impressive total of | :37:34. | :37:42. | |
4000st. Cat Downs is pitch side in Manchester for us this morning. Some | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
incredible numbers! Some amazing stories, you're right, in a moment I | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
will speak to a man who has lost 27% of his body weight, incredible | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
stories here at Man V Fat and I'm not just pitch side, I'm on the | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
pitch, you have to have eyes on the back of your head, these guys can | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
get serious weight behind the ball. How do you go about losing weight? | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
That was the problem that led to the birth of Man V Fat. Join a Zumba | :38:11. | :38:18. | |
class? A slimming diet? That didn't work for a lot of these guys but | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
what did work was playing football every week and making a life change | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
with overweight guys like them, and it's worked. Across the leagues | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
around the country 3000 men have lost a combined total of more than | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
30 tons. In a moment I will speak to some of them but here's eight quick | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
look first at how it works. -- a quick look. | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
This is my first season and I've lost three and a halfst. I'm | :38:44. | :38:51. | |
enjoying life better, I feel like I'm getting more out of it. There | :38:52. | :38:59. | |
you go! Made me a lot fitter and a lock thinner! Still rubbish and | :39:00. | :39:09. | |
football! Rubbish or the next Ronaldo? That doesn't matter here. | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
What counts is shedding the Stones. As well as goals on the pitch... | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
Teams get bonus goals for the amount of weight they lose together. I | :39:19. | :39:24. | |
really, really struggled to lose weight through the years. I joined a | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
lot of the commercial weight loss organisations and obviously so many | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
of the people who go to those are women and it just felt it wasn't | :39:33. | :39:36. | |
quite right for me. There's a lot of talk about fitting into a bikini. So | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
really it was about finding some going that was suitable for men, | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
something that would really empower them, something that would really | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
help them to lose weight and that's where Man V Fat football came from. | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
It works thanks to teamwork. When we first started we had a tiny Little | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
broom cupboard room where the men would come and weigh-in and it ended | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
up with the whole team cramming into these tiny rooms because they were | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
supporting each other, cheering each other on and wanting each other to | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
do well. This league in Manchester isn't the only one, there are 24 | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
around the country. That's 3000 men getting out, playing football and | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
losing weight and in around a year and a half they've lost a combined | :40:18. | :40:25. | |
total of more than 30 tons. So that's 906.1, you've lost four kilos | :40:26. | :40:32. | |
this week. Ross has lost 4.5st since January. Before this he found there | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
was nothing accessible for guys like him who wanted to lose weight. You | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
look at your men's fitness, get a sixpack, show your muscles when | :40:42. | :40:44. | |
those lads, we're nowhere near that. We need to be able to lose weight | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
comparably and if it's having a group of lads taking the Mickey out | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
of you and doing it that way it's absolutely perfect. With the tons | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
ticking away it proves whatever works for you is best in the battle | :40:57. | :40:58. | |
against the bulge. So forget your bikini diets and your | :40:59. | :41:06. | |
juice detox is, this seems to be working for men, a way of getting | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
men to lose weight and engage in a healthy lifestyle. Andrew, it seems | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
to be the key to getting men involved in weight losses, not | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
taking yourself too seriously, I love the team names, can you give me | :41:21. | :41:22. | |
a few? Allows of humour, we have team names like | :41:23. | :41:32. | |
the cerebral -- there's lots of humour. In Manchester we had 17 | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
Stone Roses. My favourite was Chafing the Cure and. I want to | :41:40. | :41:49. | |
bring in -- Chafing the Cure dream. You're the first council to have | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
taken a risk and started working with Man V Fat to help bring down | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
obesity numbers -- Chafing the Cure in. What results have you seen? | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
it's been great, we don't see it often in these services. The men who | :42:05. | :42:14. | |
take it up in Solihull appeared to be sticking with it, which is part | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
of the battle. Let me bring in Ben. You lost 27% of your body weight. We | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
have some before pictures of you, how you look before you lost the | :42:26. | :42:30. | |
weight and you have loved Man V Fat so much that you have gone on to be | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
a coach in the league. How important is teamwork in this? A lot of it is | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
not wanting to let your team down? Definitely, big accountability | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
coming in every night weighing in not only with guys you don't want to | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
let down but those supporting you through the week, we have groups | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
that are chatting and supporting through the week so you feel you're | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
doing it for the team as well as yourself. The goals on the pitch | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
count as well so to your position in the league so you can get bonus | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
goals for losing the weight. A lot of the games are decided purely by | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
the weight loss goals and the pitch scorecard affected as much often. | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
It's a good balance between competitive football and weight | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
loss. Congratulations and congratulations to everyone for | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
coming out and playing so early. They've come from Birmingham, Stoke | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
and Manchester and it's not just about fun, there's a big trophy at | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
stake, some serious silverware. Check this out for a trophy if you | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
win our mini BBC Breakfast tournament this morning. Not bad, | :43:35. | :43:39. | |
hey? That looks so good. You won't have seen it, it was behind you, we | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
will show you later, but one of the guys in a black shirt scored and | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
believable goal which we will try to show later. I want to see that, | :43:49. | :43:54. | |
please, that will be amazing. I love some of those names, 17 Stone Roses. | :43:55. | :44:03. | |
Chafing the Dream was my favourite, at least they aren't taking | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
themselves too seriously! 27% of your body weight! | :44:08. | :44:21. | |
If you like rain, that's what you would have seen. That's right, a wet | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
start for many places, but not all of the UK. There'll be a of standing | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
water, surface spray, we have had heavy rain through the night. The | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
heaviest rain has been across England and Wales. At the moment the | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
heaviest rain is the east Anglia, heading up through the likes of | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
Lincolnshire. It is all rotating around an area of low pressure and | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
it will continue to do so and drift further northwards as we go through | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
the day. That will allow it to brighten up in the south-east. Not | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
especially sunny. Still a lot of cloud. The brightest skies will be | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
in Scotland, where we will have sunshine later, especially in the | :45:02. | :45:06. | |
west, and the rain moves away from Northern Ireland and into northern | :45:07. | :45:09. | |
England. Down the east coast there is an onshore flow that will be | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
windy. If you are stuck under the rain and wind it will feel chilly. | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
In the afternoon as temperatures rise that could spark a thundery | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
downpours. There will be showers. We will hang on to the rain in | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
south-west England and also parts of Wales. It will be on and off through | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
the day. For Northern Ireland the rain will clear you, at the moment | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
it is in the east. It will push southwards, allowing brighter skies | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
to develop. Maybe one or two showers. Sunny skies in Scotland | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
will be in the west. Down the east coast we have an onshore flow, so it | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
will feel cool. Through the evening and overnight the rain continues to | :45:50. | :45:52. | |
push northwards, getting across all of northern England and through | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
parts of Scotland and back into Northern Ireland and it remains in | :45:58. | :46:00. | |
south-west England, through the English Channel. In towns and cities | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
temperatures stay in double figures. Lower than that in the rural areas. | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
Tomorrow is the turn of northern England, Scotland and Northern | :46:10. | :46:12. | |
Ireland to see the rain, but still some coming through the west of | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
Wales and south-west England. For the rest of Wales and England | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
largely dry, except for the odd shower. Still that keen wind coming | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
in from the North Sea, through the Irish Sea and into the English | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
Channel. If you are exposed to that, especially in the east, it will feel | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
cold. Further south with the dry conditions temperatures getting up | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
to about 17- 20 Celsius, but cooler than that as we push further north. | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
That low pressure still with us Thursday and into Friday, but it is | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
sinking and dragging the weather front with it, which produces some | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
rain. The wind veers to more of a chilly direction, more of a | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
northerly. The rain turns more patchy. Still potent in the east. A | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
fair bit of dry weather, with highs of 22. | :47:02. | :47:12. | |
Lovely. See you in about 25 minutes. Today marks two weeks since the | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
Grenfell Tower fire. At least 79 people are known to have died in a | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
blaze, with hundreds left homeless. A lot has happened in the last 14 | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
days. We've seen anger, despair, but also hope, resilience and a | :47:28. | :47:28. | |
community spirit. At its height, 40 fire engines | :47:29. | :47:30. | |
and more than 200 firefighters Dozens were rescued | :47:31. | :47:33. | |
but despite their efforts, 79 people are now | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
known to have died. The fire started in a fridge freezer | :47:38. | :47:40. | |
but what caused it to spread so quickly will be key | :47:41. | :47:43. | |
to the investigation. The focus so far has | :47:44. | :47:49. | |
been on the cladding. Samples from 95 towers in 32 local | :47:50. | :47:51. | |
authority areas in England have The government was criticised | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
for its slow response to the tragedy, but has | :47:55. | :48:02. | |
since announced a full public enquiry, ?5 million fund | :48:03. | :48:06. | |
for the victims and a promise to rehouse all those | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
affected in the local area. The tragedy has evoked a huge | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
outpouring of support. Millions of pounds have been donated | :48:12. | :48:14. | |
as well as clothing, We're joined now from west London | :48:15. | :48:16. | |
by Amanda Fernandez, who lives next to Grenfell Tower, | :48:17. | :48:26. | |
and Pilgrim Tucker, who was involved Good morning and thank you for | :48:27. | :48:37. | |
joining us. If I can just ask you first, Amanda, I know you lived very | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
close to the tower. How close and are you able to get back into your | :48:43. | :48:50. | |
home? I live on the Lancaster Estate, the tower is part of that | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
state. So literally the ground level, right at the base of the | :48:55. | :49:01. | |
tower. The tower acts as a central hub for the power to the rest of the | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
estate, so another 845 homes. When the tower came down literally the | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
estate shut down because we had no hot water, no electricity, all of | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
the minor things you need to have a safe home. And of course added to | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
that you had... We don't know if there are still toxins in the air, | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
there's been no report, there has been no co-ordination or official | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
response to any of the residents that were evacuated, so we are still | :49:31. | :49:36. | |
not in our homes. There is access, but it's not safe, it's not safe. | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
And where are you staying at the moment? My family is in temporary | :49:42. | :49:49. | |
accommodation, we are outside... In the Hammersmith and Fulham borough. | :49:50. | :49:57. | |
One is in Westminster and the other is in a different location. Did you | :49:58. | :50:01. | |
get any choice about where to go? We know some people don't want to be | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
able to see the tower. Did you get a choice? You didn't get a choice. You | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
didn't even get offered this option. It was kind of, you need somewhere | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
to sleep and if you have small children or elderly or whoever you | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
need to be somewhere, you need to be sheltered. So we just took what we | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
were given. A lot of people are further away and for different | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
reasons I know a lot of my friends and family who were in the tower | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
don't want to be anywhere near the tower and are still forced to have | :50:37. | :50:39. | |
to pass it every day because we still have to come to the recovery | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
centre that is next to the tower as well. I personally can't leave my | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
community. I don't necessarily want to look at it, it is very hard, but | :50:47. | :50:52. | |
I'm always here at 8am and we leave at midnight to go home and sleep. I | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
will come back to you in a moment. Pilgrim, we know you were in charge | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
of this fire safety campaign and there's been so much talk and | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
looking at what went wrong. What were your main concerns before this? | :51:07. | :51:14. | |
The main concern of the residence at the time I was working here was the | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
overall refurbishment job that was going on. The quality of the work | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
that was going on and how the residents here were being treated by | :51:25. | :51:29. | |
the council, by the tenant management organisation. Is the -- | :51:30. | :51:37. | |
the specific thing we were looking at was the boilers and the | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
positioning of boilers in houses and the pipework to and from those | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
boilers. Apparently they had been consulted on the work that was being | :51:45. | :51:50. | |
done and they had a show flat and on the show flat the boilers were | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
positioned somewhere sensible, above the kitchen sink. In the kitchen. | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
But then they realised that when the work started happening, the | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
residents realised the boilers were being placed in this narrow | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
corridors leading to the front door, so partially obstructing the front | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
doors. And the pipework to those boilers was sticking out several | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
inches out of the walls. So they were very unhappy about that. They | :52:18. | :52:26. | |
tried to get in touch with the TMO and council about moving the boilers | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
and putting them where they were originally meant to be and the | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
council was so unresponsive. They just didn't reply to any e-mails and | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
actually it took people protesting in the end. They tried petitioning. | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
But they had to protest in the end. And in the end of those who | :52:44. | :52:46. | |
protested did get those boilers moved, but the ones who didn't have | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
them positioned in the hallway. At the time we weren't really aware | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
that there would be a problem with the flammability of the cladding, | :52:55. | :52:59. | |
but we knew they were all of these historical fire safety problems. The | :53:00. | :53:05. | |
power surges, fire safety equipment not being checked regularly and they | :53:06. | :53:09. | |
complained about that for a long period of time and had no response. | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
They were very worried about that. We do know, and I can still see you | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
are very emotional about it, we know there will be this public enquiry | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
and they will be looking at so many things with regard to what happened, | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
how it happened and the rest of it. Are you optimistic that this will | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
bring answers and change? I don't feel very optimistic. What is really | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
shocking is that Theresa May spoke to the media about the public | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
enquiry yesterday before she even reply to the tenants. The tenants | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
e-mail to the day before yesterday -- e-mailed her the day before | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
yesterday and asked for several things, which under the | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
circumstances are not just reasonable, they are hugely | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
important. They've asked for input into choosing the chair, the terms | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
of reference and advisers and making sure this is a really thorough | :54:03. | :54:05. | |
public enquiry that looks back over the years at all of the causes of | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
this and all of the negligence that happened building up to that fire | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
and just the absence of the authorities in the aftermath and the | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
fact that the people here will have to fend for themselves and there was | :54:21. | :54:29. | |
nobody here doing their jobs. So, no, it doesn't really fill with -- | :54:30. | :54:36. | |
me with confidence. People here have already lost trust in the | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
authorities and Theresa May is now asking them to trust her again, but | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
they contact her and she doesn't reply to them and she goes astray to | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
speak to the media. Just appalling. So rude. Amanda, I can see you are | :54:49. | :54:56. | |
nodding at agreeing with some of the things Pilgrim is saying. If I can | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
ask you, presumably, hopefully, at some point you will be allowed to go | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
back to your house. How do you feel about that? There are several | :55:06. | :55:13. | |
factors that they have to kind of... Several boxes they have to tick | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
before we can go back to our house. The state of the environment right | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
now, our homes are so close to the tower that any work that is being | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
done to the tower will always affect us and I can't see that being done | :55:29. | :55:34. | |
in the near future. Apart from that, a lot of my friends and family were | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
actually on the tower and managed to escape and some didn't, so there's a | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
lot of emotions there as well. It's not something I've actually thought | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
about yet, because we are just trying to process everything, going | :55:48. | :55:50. | |
back to our homes, to our possessions and what's left is | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
something that you don't even look forward to because everything is | :55:56. | :55:58. | |
completely changed, it's not the same. This is why we put in an | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
enquiry that we need to be involved. This is why we put in our statement | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
that we need to be involved, because right from the beginning there has | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
been systematic failure, right from before, during the fire, and now | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
after. It's just giving us no hope. Briefly, how would you describe the | :56:18. | :56:20. | |
way you personally feel at the moment? Look, I keep saying, the | :56:21. | :56:27. | |
first week are was in shock and full of anger and shock. Complete shock. | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
The second week little bit of emotion, I couldn't talk properly. | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
This past weekend I've had time to kind of reflect and realise, | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
actually, if we don't speak up now time is passing, it is already | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
becoming chip paper for a lot of the world and we are still living it. It | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
feels like two years have passed and it's only two weeks, if we haven't | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
moved, everything is going in slow motion. Personally, I am still | :56:55. | :57:00. | |
filled with a lot of anger but I know we have to channel it in a way | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
that the world can support as, it's not only the immediate community, it | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
is everyone's support we need. This is for everyone across the world who | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
lives in social housing. Things have to change. It's enough. Enough is | :57:13. | :57:16. | |
enough. I appreciate your time. Rest of luck. -- best of luck. | :57:17. | :57:24. | |
Really powerful testimonies from both of them. A lot of people are | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
catching up on this programme on iPlayer these days. That interview | :57:30. | :57:32. | |
will be available on iPlayer later. Time now to get the news, | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
travel and weather where you are. Hello, this is Breakfast | :57:37. | :01:03. | |
with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. After a near 30 year battle, | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
the families of those who died at Hillsborough will find out this | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
morning whether anyone It follows two separate | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
inquires into what happened on the day of the match | :01:14. | :01:21. | |
and whether there was Good morning. | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
It's Wednesday, 28th June. Two weeks | :01:25. | :01:35. | |
on from the Grenfell Tower disaster we hear what life is like for those | :01:36. | :01:44. | |
who've been forced One of the UK's most senior police | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
officers says that a reduction in stop and search has led | :01:48. | :01:53. | |
to an increase in knife crime. Victims tell Breakfast | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
more needs to be done. Very angry. I can see it in my eyes, | :01:57. | :02:09. | |
yeah. This has got to stop. This knife thing has got to stop. | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
Good morning, we could be paying thousands of pounds too much in | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
hidden fees on our pensions. The regulator has managed a crackdown, | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
but many of us are still getting a raw deal. | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
England lose to Germany on penalties Nathan Redmond's miss means they go | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
out at the semi final stage of the under-21 | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
I'm playing early morning football with these guys in Manchester to | :02:34. | :02:41. | |
find out more about how teamwork is helping these men and 3,000 like | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
them around the country lose a combined total of more than 32 | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
tonnes in weight! For England and Wales, it is a wet | :02:49. | :03:00. | |
start. Some heavy rain around. It will improve in the South East. For | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
Northern Ireland, the rain will clear you and then it will brighten, | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
but the driest conditions of all will be in Scotland. I'll have more | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
details in 15 minutes. See you later. Thank you very much. | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
The families of those who died at Hillsborough will find out | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
later this morning whether anyone will face criminal charges. | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
An inquest ruled last year that the 96 Liverpool fans who died | :03:23. | :03:24. | |
at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989 were unlawfully killed. | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
Our North of England Correspondent Judith Moritz reports. | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
# Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart...# | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
It was a moment of history, the inquest's finding last year that | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
96 Liverpool fans were unlawfully killed at Hillsborough. | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
For their families, it was justice, but their legal | :03:45. | :03:46. | |
Steve Kelly lost his brother Michael in the disaster. | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
He's spent the 28 years since then calling for those responsible | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
There's got to be this accountability. | :03:55. | :04:04. | |
It's paramount in this whole case to give the families respite | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
and the survivors of Hillsborough and you know, to truly let | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
The fans were killed when the terraces at the Sheffield | :04:12. | :04:20. | |
ground became overcrowded during the 1989 FA Cup semi-final. | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
Since 2012, there have been two criminal inquiries | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
Operation Resolve investigated the day of the disaster. | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
Offences considered include gross negligence manslaughter. | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
One of those waiting to hear whether he'll | :04:39. | :04:39. | |
face charges is former Chief Superintendent | :04:40. | :04:41. | |
David Duckenfield, who was the South Yorkshire | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
The police watchdog, the IPCC, investigated cover-up allegations, | :04:44. | :04:50. | |
It considered offences including misconduct in a public | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
office and perverting the course of justice. | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
The former West Yorkshire Chief Constable, Sir Norman Bettison, | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
has revealed that he's been treated as a suspect by the IPCC. | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
It isn't known whether he will face charges. | :05:09. | :05:09. | |
Hundreds of investigators have been working from these offices | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
for the last four years at a cost of ?100 million. | :05:12. | :05:20. | |
There is an expectation that charges will be brought | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
after such a long wait and such large-scale effort. | :05:24. | :05:32. | |
That decision will be announced to the families | :05:33. | :05:33. | |
Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
for a "major national investigation" into the use of cladding | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
Our reporter Simon Jones is at a church in West London | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
where people have been laying tributes to the victims. | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
We have been talking to two women who know Grenfell Tower extremely | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
well. You get the sense that there are so many questions still to be | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
answered? Absolutely. I think you have seen the range of emotions over | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
the past couple of weeks. Initially, the shock and dismay about what had | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
happened. Then the anger and then the reflection and now, people | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
definitely wanting answers. Now, there has been a letter written to | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
Theresa May from local people saying they need a voice and there is some | :06:30. | :06:40. | |
controversy this morning over the chairman Sir Ken Knight because he | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
carried out an investigation into a previous fire in Camberwell that | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
happened a few years ago. He said in that case that he didn't believe | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
that high rises should be forced to fit sprinklers. He said in some | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
cases, it is not economically viable or practical, it is up to the | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
landlord, but that's something he's going to have to revisit. But the | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
people here just want some answers and quickly. We have been speaking | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
to one woman who lives in the shadow of the tower and hasn't been able to | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
return home. A lot of people are further away and | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
for different reasons. I know a lot of my friends and family who are in | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
the tower don't want to be anywhere near the tower and are forced to | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
have to pass it every single day because we have to come to the | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
recovery aid centre that's next to the tower as well. My personally, I | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
can't leave my community. I don't necessarily want to look at it, it's | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
very hard to, but I'm always here. 8am in the morning I'm here and we | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
leave at midnight to go home and sleep or to the hotel and sleep. So | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
a huge effect it is having on residents. I want to show you where | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
we are in relation to the tower. This is the church where people have | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
been coming over the past couple of weeks, leaving flowers and | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
displaying posters of people who have lost their lives or are | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
missing, presumed dead. I think two weeks on, the big thing is the | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
number of questions that still remain. How did this fire take hold | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
so drastically? How many people died in it? That's a question we may | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
never be able to answer. Simon, for the moment, thank you very much. | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
Let's go to Westminster now and to our political | :08:17. | :08:18. | |
Iain, Labour's going to be talking about the Grenfell Tower today | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
to call for more spending for emergency services. | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
That's right, Dan. I think Jeremy Corbyn will be accused by his | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
opponents of trying to politicise the Grenfell tragedy. He certainly | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
argued for greater funding for the police and the Fire Service since | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
the fire occurred and it doesn't seem to have harmed him that | :08:43. | :08:44. | |
approach and the opinion polls, but what it is trying to do today is to | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
amend to change the Queen's Speech, the Government's programme, for the | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
next two years to guarantee that extra funding. He won't win because | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
Theresa May now has the support of ten DUP MPs from Northern Ireland. | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
She can vote down this attempt by Labour in the Commons later on | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
today. That's guaranteed, but I think what Jeremy Corbyn is going to | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
try to do is embarrass Conservative MPs and try to make them feel | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
uncomfortable if they are voting not just against extra funding for the | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
emergency services, but also he is going to say that Labour would lift | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
the public sector pay cap and on the doorsteps, Conservatives who lost | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
the seats at the last election were saying that people felt that perhaps | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
pay restraint and public spending cuts had gone on for too long. | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
Effectively if Conservative MPs are going to be loyal to Theresa May, | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
they're going to have to vote to keep that pay cap and there will be | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
a clear dividing line between the main parties, but what the | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
Conservatives are saying in response is look, if you really want decent | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
public services, you need a strong economy to pay for them and that's | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
something which Labour can't deliver. Iain, thank you. | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
They say there had been no movement on the rights of Irish speakers | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
But the DUP has insisted it has no red lines and accused | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
Sinn Fein of being involved in a high-wire act. | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
The deadline for reaching a deal is tomorrow afternoon. | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
Services providing support for people who are older | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
and disabled face more cuts, despite extra money being | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
That's according to research by the directors of adult social | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
The report says more than two-thirds of local authorities had to dip | :10:23. | :10:31. | |
into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand. | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
Former Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond has spoken | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
for the first time about crashing a super car whilst filming | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
He told the Drive Tribe website he was on a practice run for a race | :10:45. | :10:54. | |
when the car veered off the road, tumbled down a hill | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
I was aware that I was up, that I was high, that inevitably the car | :10:58. | :11:07. | |
was going to come down. And yeah, of course, it was a moment of dread oh | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
god, I'm going to die. And also I was aware that the car was taking | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
just such a beating. If you look at those craters, that's a big hole | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
which was impact. It looks like the thing has been dropped from space to | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
have a hole that big. What was going through my mind well, this is it. | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
He had a few scrapes in cars, hasn't he? That was while filming for the | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
Grand Tour. Glad to see he's OK. First introduced as a way | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
of combating crime, the power to stop and search members | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
of the public is one of the most controversial aspects | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
of British policing. In England and Wales, | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
the use of it has more than halved But, in an exclusive interview, | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
one of England's most senior police chiefs has told Breakfast | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
he believes the drop in stop and search has led | :12:00. | :12:01. | |
to a rise in knife crime. Our reporter Tim Muffett | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
has the story. Everytime I go down, | :12:05. | :12:05. | |
people are walking past like it's just a normal day, | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
but that's where my life ended, On the same street in Leicester | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015, | :12:11. | :12:24. | |
Sean was attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back | :12:25. | :12:26. | |
which went straight into my artery. If I didn't survive this | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
could be my mum sitting here feeling Amy and Shaun believe jail sentences | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
for knife possession should be longer and that police should be | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
stopping and searching If the stop-and-search was more | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
present then I believe my son Across England and Wales, | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
police are stopping and searching In 2011, there were more | :12:49. | :13:06. | |
than 100,000 stop and searches. According to the most recent | :13:07. | :13:13. | |
Home Office figures that number Those figures relate to searches | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
for offensive weapons. Since 2011, overall knife crime has | :13:17. | :13:25. | |
fallen, but in the past two years it Stop-and-search, legally done, | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
is an absolutely vital Like all police chiefs, | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
Mike Barton was told by the Home Office in 2014 that | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
stop-and-search needed reform. It should be intelligence-led, | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
more effectively targeted. Do you think there is a link | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
between a national decrease in stop-and-search and the recent | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science | :13:55. | :13:56. | |
to say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
a reasonable hypothesis. West Midlands training centre and a | :14:07. | :14:18. | |
stop and search exercise for officers. This force believes fewer | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
searches can be just as effective. It is not about numbers. Since 2011, | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
2012, we have reduced the amount of stop and searchs that we conduct, | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
but the arrest remains the same. So it would appear now that we are | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
targeting the right people, intell lens-led searches. The Home Office | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
says it supports stop and search when carried out properly and there | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
is no proven link between the number of searches and levels of knife | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
crime. But as a police tactic, it remains controversial. | :14:50. | :15:01. | |
We're joined now by Zubaida Haque who's from the race equality | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
It is a vital part of the police armoury, would you agree? I am sure | :15:05. | :15:16. | |
it is in terms of policing, I am sure they have their own motivations | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
for stop and search, and it works in certain instances. The bigger | :15:22. | :15:30. | |
question is, is it an effective strategy for addressing the knife | :15:31. | :15:38. | |
crime and the causes of knife crime, and as important, what are the side | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
effects? What is the counter-productive effect in terms | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
of the impact on the community 's that it focuses on? I suppose it is | :15:49. | :15:56. | |
which one you give more weight to. Do you see the correlation that | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
knife crime goes down as stop and search goes up? I am a statistician, | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
correlations are very complicated, in the sense that if you just say | :16:09. | :16:15. | |
stop and search goes down and knife crime goes up, people she the two | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
are connected, but we live in a society where there is a lot more | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
going on. You have to ask broader questions, what else is going on in | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
society? Knife crime is a symptom of violence that is going up as well. | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
We need to talk about that as well. The other thing is there have been | :16:36. | :16:47. | |
big cuts in youth services since 2010, approximately ?400 million has | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
been cut from youth services, and they have been big cuts in policing. | :16:52. | :16:59. | |
You have to ask, has not had an impact also on crime? And on knife | :17:00. | :17:07. | |
crime? Because knife crime is a reflection of crime per se. We need | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
to look at the wider context. The have to keep going back to the fact | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
that stop and search might be good in particular instances, so it might | :17:19. | :17:28. | |
begin in terms of... There are two reasons why people carry knives. One | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
is for status. That is a less important reason, the major reason | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
is for protection. Stop and search is quite good at addressing status | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
related reasons for carrying knives, because if you take away someone's's | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
knife then, they can think, street cred is not worth it, I would rather | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
just get rid of the knife. But if you take away the knife from someone | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
who is doing it to protect themselves because they fear for | :18:06. | :18:08. | |
their safety, because they fear being victimised, they are likely to | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
go and just get another weapon. A knife is a weapon of choice, take it | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
away, they will either get another knife or another weapon. That is | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
when it stopped and searched does not address the issue. We talked to | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
somebody who had been stabbed, another young lad who had been | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
stopped and searched, he said that it could be done in better ways. | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
What do you say to those communities where young people are dying, | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
especially in London, because of this crime? What do you say about | :18:41. | :18:49. | |
how to stop it? It is not that it is a good tool, it depends how it is | :18:50. | :18:56. | |
used. It is a tool. That is what I would say, there are other tools. | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
Policing per se... Stop and search is about policing. What we have to | :19:03. | :19:11. | |
think about is community policing, a more gentle way of working with | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
communities are building trust with communities, not seeing communities | :19:16. | :19:25. | |
viewing individual young black boys as suspect. Community policing has | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
been a more effective crime prevention, working at grassroots | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
level, getting intelligence from the community, parents trust you and | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
young people trust you. They need to be able to trust police to look | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
after their safety, because if they believe the police are looking after | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
their safety, they will not feel they need to protect themselves. | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
That is the crux of the issue. They fear for their own safety, which is | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
why they carry knives are. So much to talk about. | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
We are a little late for the weather, but an important discussion | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
to be had. It is a wet start across many parts | :20:04. | :20:13. | |
of the UK, and it has been a wet night. Expect a lot of standing | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
water and surface spray. We have seen some torrential downpours over | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
night and this morning. We have heavy downpours around the wash and | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
Cambridge are and Lincolnshire. It curls around through Wales. The | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
course of the morning, it will edge further north, and in Northern | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
Ireland it will edge further south. It brightens up there, but the | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
brightest guys will be in Scotland. Later, it brightens up across the | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
south-east. Near the East coast, there is a cold wind from the North | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
Sea, which is exacerbating the call feel. Into the afternoon, the rain | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
across northern England, moving away from the south. As temperatures | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
rise, it could spark some thundery showers. Full south-west England, | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
the rain will be on and off through the day. It is the same for Wales. | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
The rain will not be terribly far away. For Northern Ireland, the rain | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
has moved south, so it has brightened up. The brightest sky in | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
Scotland will be in the West, but there will be dry weather. Like the | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
East of England, and onshore flow makes it feel cooler. Through this | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
evening and overnight, the main advances northwards. The curl | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
continues down through the south-west and into the English | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
Channel. We are in pretty good shape temperature wise. Tomorrow we start | :21:49. | :21:55. | |
with the rain across northern England, much of Scotland and | :21:56. | :22:03. | |
Northern Ireland. It will be more showery in the South. But there will | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
be a lot of dry weather around, some bright spots of anything. This cool | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
wind coming from the North Sea, extending through the Irish Sea and | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
the Bristol Channel and the English Channel. Under the rain, it is going | :22:18. | :22:26. | |
to feel much cooler, especially on the East Coast. As we head from | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
Thursday into Friday, the low-pressure tracks the weather | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
front with it, taking the rain south. You can see the squeeze on | :22:36. | :22:43. | |
the isobars. It will be windy. There will be some dry weather around as | :22:44. | :22:51. | |
well. It will feel cooler in the wind. | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
The garden needs rain! We all need rain! | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
You have a hair on your shoulder! Excellent! | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
Are we paying too much on pensions? The regulators say so. | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
Shall I do a bit of business news? It is a team effort! | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
You get on with that! The financial regulator has unveiled | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
a crackdown on firms that manage our pensions and investments | :23:21. | :23:22. | |
over complaints they're The market is worth ?7 trillion | :23:23. | :23:24. | |
but critics say it's not clear what charges are imposed by fund | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
managers and higher fees are eating into the value | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
of our retirement savings. Three quarters of UK households | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
currently have a pension invested It says that price competition | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
is weak in a number Gina Miller from SCM Private has | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
been campaigning against unfair fees I have the report here, they say | :23:47. | :24:06. | |
price competition is weak, there are sustained high profits over a number | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
of years. But it is not a revolution. It does not go far | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
enough. It is a proconsumer agenda, but there is a lot of dragging here. | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
This is one of the last industries when it comes to cartel like | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
behaviour, and for ten years I have campaigned to say it has to stop, | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
especially on fees, because about 50% of these are hidden. That is of | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
people's hard earned money that they are handing over. It is wrong. You | :24:36. | :24:44. | |
talk about it being a cartel, but first, why should we care about | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
this? Why would anybody watching this care about fees that they might | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
think about in ten, 20, 30 years? You are handing over your money, you | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
want it to gross or you can look after yourself in your old age. You | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
wanted to pay a fair fee, but you have a right to know what that is. | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
50% of it has been hidden. You think you are paying 1% and you are | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
getting a 5% return, if you are paying two or 3%, you are not | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
getting a huge return on your money. It is the fund managers and the | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
industry that are making a profit, not you, but it is your money, and | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
also because of the ageing of our population, we have to have a better | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
functioning industry. What would you like to see change? Some have | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
described it as the last gravy train in the city, this old boys' club, | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
there is no transparency. What do you want to see change? It is | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
simple, as we do in every other walk of life, have a ticket price, 100% | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
transparency, one single number so people can understand, and also in a | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
format that is regulated, so you can make comparisons. One of the | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
problems of this report is that it says that one single number for | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
retail investors but for institutional investors they are | :26:14. | :26:15. | |
going to give them a better deal and say there have to be a consistent | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
format. Why should ordinary investors be treated as second-class | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
Kapadia to professional institutional investors? Many people | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
will recognise you from the campaign that the one against the Government | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
about the parliamentary approval for Brexit. How different will financial | :26:34. | :26:43. | |
services look after two? -- after Brexit? I have campaigned for this | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
to ten years now, and the shock will come after Brexit, because it is not | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
going to be the industry which has just been able to do as it once, it | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
will have to fight much harder. As we have already seen, the EU almost | :26:58. | :27:07. | |
clinical in the way they are coughing up some of our agencies. | :27:08. | :27:14. | |
Banking may go to Frankfurt. The industry has to think about the | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
impact of Brexit. More later. | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
Earlier on, we talked about the Football League set up to stop -- to | :27:26. | :27:36. | |
help men losing weight. Earlier on, this goal was scored, an absolute | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
belter, and a proper celebration as well. | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
I bet he is pleased that was on the TV. | :27:45. | :27:46. | |
Did he get that? More shortly. | :27:47. | :31:07. | |
Hello, this is Breakfast with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. | :31:08. | :31:22. | |
Let's bring you up-to-date with the latest news, and Sally will be here | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
in a moment with the sport. A decision on whether anyone | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
will face criminal charges over the Hillsborough disaster will be | :31:29. | :31:30. | |
announced this morning. The Crown Prosecution Service | :31:31. | :31:32. | |
will reveal its intentions at a meeting with victims' | :31:33. | :31:34. | |
relatives this morning. 96 Liverpool fans died | :31:35. | :31:36. | |
at the Sheffield ground Steve Kelly's brother Michael | :31:37. | :31:38. | |
died in the disaster. It's paramount in this whole case | :31:39. | :31:48. | |
to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
and you know, to truly let Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
fire, Theresa May has called for a "major national | :31:56. | :32:08. | |
investigation" into the use of potentially flammable cladding | :32:09. | :32:10. | |
on high rise buildings. Every one of the samples tested | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
from 95 buildings across England Earlier on Breakfast we heard | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
from Amanda Fernandez, who was evacuated from her home | :32:19. | :32:35. | |
which is next to the Grenfell Tower. A lot of people are far away for a | :32:36. | :32:42. | |
different reasons, a lot of people are forced to pass the tower daily | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
because we have to come to the recovery centre which is next to the | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
tower as well. For me, personally, I cannot leave my community. I don't | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
necessarily want to look at it, it is difficult to. But at 8am every | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
morning we are here, and we leave at midnight to go to the hotel and | :32:58. | :32:59. | |
sleep. Labour says it will challenge MPs | :33:00. | :33:01. | |
today to oppose further austerity. The party will call for more | :33:02. | :33:03. | |
spending on the police and Fire Services, as an amendment | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
to the Queen's Speech, as well as an end to the 1% cap | :33:07. | :33:08. | |
on public sector pay rises. The Conservatives say only | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
they will deliver the economy needed to properly fund the emergency | :33:14. | :33:15. | |
services. Computer systems around the world | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks, | :33:21. | :33:22. | |
retailers, energy firms The companies have been | :33:23. | :33:24. | |
told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
say it's more sophisticated than the virus used in a global | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
attack last month, This is your favourite story, so I | :33:36. | :33:52. | |
will let you introduce it. Official Cowell news, everybody. -- cow news. | :33:53. | :34:00. | |
And you may have heard the phrase "til the cows home". | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
Well it happened to five-year-old Bella from Cheshire when she played | :34:04. | :34:05. | |
her ukulele to a herd of cows in Llandudno. | :34:06. | :34:07. | |
Here she is with just a few of the herd watching... | :34:08. | :34:10. | |
A few members of the heard come in, and as she continues to play, they | :34:11. | :34:19. | |
move in. I love what she tells her mum. The words are along the bottom | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
of the screen, wait for what she says to her mum... | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
I'm not sure how long she was there for. The cows are clearly enjoying | :34:31. | :34:45. | |
it... Can I do my joke again? Moo-kelele! I'm far too pleased with | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
myself! Matt Allwright's made his | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
career cracking down on Rogue Traders and now he's back | :34:52. | :35:01. | |
with a new series of Watchdog. He'll join us later, | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
with a new addition to his team, She is taking some time off from | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
Breakfast. From being the last governor | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
of Hong Kong to media advisor to the Pope, | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
Chris Patten's worn many He'll join us on the | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
sofa before nine. I would like you to meet Meghan | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
Markle! Oh, my God! Wills and Kate! And after nine, Comedy soap opera | :35:23. | :35:33. | |
'The Windsors' is back. We'll be joined by the actors who | :35:34. | :35:35. | |
play Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. I'm sorry I missed you... It means | :35:36. | :35:38. | |
so much to me, that is Not listening? I was laughing inside | :35:39. | :35:54. | |
at my own joke. In other news... LAUGHTER | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
Have you done that before? Have I done it? Some bad news to bring you | :36:01. | :36:08. | |
this morning... It's awful, sorry -- some bad moos. It's the same old... | :36:09. | :36:18. | |
One of the things I wonder, this talented young team is coming | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
through, I hope that they are not affected by what has happened. It is | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
ready difficult, how do you get over that? You don't! Sorry, lads! It is | :36:28. | :36:35. | |
psychology, stay strong! It's like a film script. | :36:36. | :36:37. | |
Once again, England have lost the semifinal of a football | :36:38. | :36:39. | |
This time it was the Under 21s European Championship - | :36:40. | :36:43. | |
England came from behind to take the lead through | :36:44. | :36:45. | |
But the Germans levelled and after extra time, | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
Nathan Redmond penalty was saved - and the side followed | :36:49. | :36:50. | |
the fate of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996. | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
you would put odds on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
a great save so we'll have to take that. | :37:00. | :37:01. | |
It's been a real team effort and I think we can be pleased | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
And in the end we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
Fifa officials investigating alleged corruption were told plans | :37:10. | :37:18. | |
for England to play a friendly in Thailand to win backing | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
for their own World Cup bid were "a form of bribery". | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
The former FA Chairman Geoff Thompson made the admission | :37:24. | :37:25. | |
when interviewed during a Fifa enquiry into the bidding process | :37:26. | :37:27. | |
for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, won by Russia and Qatar. | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
England's cricketers thrashed Pakistan to get | :37:32. | :37:32. | |
their Women's World Cup campaign back on track. | :37:33. | :37:34. | |
Natalie Sivver and captain Heather Knight both hit their first | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
one-day international centuries, as England reached | :37:39. | :37:39. | |
Pakistan never got close, the rain intervened, | :37:40. | :37:42. | |
Novak Djokovic entered the Aegon International | :37:43. | :37:59. | |
in Eastbourne to get some much-needed grass court practice | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
the good old British weather put paid to that - | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
he only managed one game against Vasec Pospisil | :38:09. | :38:10. | |
And Andy Murray pulled out of an exhibition match | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
at the Hurlingham Club in London, because of a sore hip. | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
It was just a precaution, though, and he is still expected | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
to play there on Friday, before beginning the defence | :38:21. | :38:22. | |
Can I just say, I've managed to get through the entire morning, today | :38:23. | :38:33. | |
and yesterday, without saying popsicle for Vasek Pospisil. We will | :38:34. | :38:42. | |
be keeping a close eye! We will be keeping an eye on you, Sally. Thank | :38:43. | :38:43. | |
you. 20 years ago, Lord Patten | :38:44. | :38:44. | |
and his family watched as the British flag was lowered over | :38:45. | :38:46. | |
Hong Kong and was replaced The last of 28 colonial governors, | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
he returned to the UK where he has since played a pivotal role | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
in Northern Ireland's Peace process, acted as European Commissioner | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
and become a media advisor For the first time, | :38:58. | :38:59. | |
Lord Patten has written about his own experiences | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
in a new book. We'll speak to him in just a moment, | :39:03. | :39:04. | |
but first let's look back The two biggest political | :39:05. | :39:07. | |
parties in Northern news that Chris Patten has | :39:08. | :39:41. | |
been asked to chair the commission on the future | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
of policing there. It is amazing... What a list of | :39:45. | :40:21. | |
jobs. Nice to have you here. Nice to be | :40:22. | :40:30. | |
back in this building. An extraordinary CV, so many things to | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
talk to you about. Let's begin with, you know this from the heart of it | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
all, about the Conservative Party. What is going on in there at the | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
moment and what are your biggest concerns? Actions have consequences. | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
We are coping with the consequences of two prime ministers who have made | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
very bad decisions, trying to cope with the right wing nationalist wing | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
of the Conservative Party. What worries me, at the moment, is that a | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
barn is a bung is a bung, and while I love Northern Ireland, it's one of | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
the most important thing is the country has done for years, but I do | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
worry about what the bung will do to politics. That's how you describe | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
the deal? Absolutely, if you are in Scotland, Wales, Cumbria or the | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
Northeast, you think, if they can have that cash, why can't we? | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
Figures suggest that Northern Ireland, the rest of the country may | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
need more, it gets more public spending than other places. The | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
Conservatives say that they are trying to manage the power that they | :41:37. | :41:39. | |
don't have two hands-on and they signed the deal to make sure they | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
have a majority in government, can you see that side of it? I don't | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
believe that the DUP would have voted down a Conservative | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
government, the alternative is Jeremy Corbyn, he has a certain | :41:54. | :41:55. | |
relationship with the Republicans and Sinn Fein over the years, I do | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
not think they would have voted down a conservative government. The worry | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
is that over time it will weaken the peace process, in the attempt to set | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
up a power executive. There is a real sense where it paints the | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
Conservative Party. Newspapers will go into the opinions and backgrounds | :42:14. | :42:17. | |
of some of these DUP members. I think they've already started, and | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
it doesn't look too good. Given that and the fact that any time somebody | :42:23. | :42:27. | |
wants a pay settlement in the public sector, nurses want more than 1% or | :42:28. | :42:33. | |
whatever, they say, what about Northern Ireland? You've just given | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
them ?1 billion for support in the House of Commons, why can't we have | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
the money? During the campaign, the Prime Minister referred to a magic | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
money tree... It is obviously growing in County Armagh! There's a | :42:46. | :42:52. | |
fictional money tree... Yes, it is true, that people may be fed up with | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
austerity, but we still have national debt which is higher than | :42:57. | :43:02. | |
it was when we all started. While we should probably ease up on | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
austerity, and deal with the fiscal deficit over a longer period, while | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
people like me, the better off, should pay more tax, we cannot | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
simply forget about the importance of controlling public spending. One | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
more on the Conservatives, how long do you think Theresa May will be in | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
power for? I don't know, I find it unseemly that a lot of her | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
ex-colleagues want to dance on the grave. I think that she will be | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
there as long as the Conservative Party find it difficult to discover | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
anyone else they can rally around. Obviously, Brexit negotiations will | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
be at the heart of that. We looked at your CV little, it is extremely | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
impressive. Which was your toughest job? The toughest job was in | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
Northern Ireland, dealing with police. The happiest job was being | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
in Hong Kong, where we had a wonderful time. The most impossible | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
job was being chairman of the BBC Trust. I was not chairman of the BBC | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
but of the regulator and it was all impossible. The new structure is a | :44:06. | :44:08. | |
much better one that does not deal with the real problem at the BBC, it | :44:09. | :44:12. | |
does not have enough money. I would say that even if I wasn't on BBC | :44:13. | :44:19. | |
television. You discuss it quite openly in the book as well... You | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
pay 40p per day for the best radio and television service in the world, | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
if anyone ever grumbles about it, they should be made to watch Fox | :44:29. | :44:36. | |
News or television in Italy. You mentioned being media adviser to the | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
Pope...? It was an attempt to reorganise the Vatican's media | :44:43. | :44:47. | |
organisation. You cannot really advise the Pope, he is so wonderful, | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
Pope John XXIII, and he is so funny. In the book there's a good story | :44:53. | :45:00. | |
about him going across St Peter's Square, giving pilgrims a bowl of | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
disgusting herbal drink... You know it! He takes the bowl, and has a | :45:06. | :45:12. | |
swig and his bodyguard say, holy Father, never do that. He said, was | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
the problem? They were pilgrims, and not Cardinals! He has a very sharp | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
sense of humour. Yes, and he knows a lot of people find his particular | :45:23. | :45:31. | |
way of expressing Christianity and generosity a field station for those | :45:32. | :45:34. | |
with difficulties getting through life. Having strict standards but | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
realising that generosity and forgiveness are the most important | :45:41. | :45:42. | |
things. Some people find that difficult. | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
You touch on Europe in the book. And you have been critical of the EU and | :45:48. | :45:54. | |
their role in certain things as well. I wonder, your view now, | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
looking from the outside in on the bricks and negotiations, where do | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
you think we will be in five years? I don't know, and the trouble is, | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
neither does the Government. During the election campaign, the Prime | :46:09. | :46:11. | |
Minister talked about letting us get on with the plan. They don't have a | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
plan. The person who has come nearest to expressing a sensible way | :46:17. | :46:19. | |
of dealing with this difficult situation is Philip Hammond, but | :46:20. | :46:22. | |
there is no way that you can be outside the EU and have the | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
advantage of being inside. Do you have concerns for your former | :46:27. | :46:34. | |
friends, residents in Hong Kong? I do have a few. After 1997 when the | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
left, China, by and large, kept its hands off. It cut back the attempt | :46:41. | :46:47. | |
to establish democracy, but otherwise, it was fairly distant. In | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
recent years, there have been abductions of people in the street, | :46:51. | :46:58. | |
a gradual tightening of the grip on Hong Kong, and China is asserting | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
itself. We should, in this country, stand up for the people of Hong | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
Kong, because we are responsible for them. Thank you for coming to talk | :47:06. | :47:08. | |
to us. Chris Patten's booked is called | :47:09. | :47:09. | |
First Confession: A Sort of Memoir. Nearly half of us want higher taxes | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
to pay for more spending on health, education and social benefits, | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
according to the British The study by the National Centre | :47:18. | :47:19. | |
for Social Research also found people were becoming more sceptical | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
of the EU. Nearly 3000 people took | :47:24. | :47:25. | |
part in the survey. We've been getting | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
some of your views. If you've not done anything | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
wrong, then there's And if you're not | :47:38. | :47:39. | |
saying anything wrong, then you won't get | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
flagged up, will you? I'm on the side of very much, | :47:44. | :47:45. | |
freedoms are, you know, we should fight for them, | :47:46. | :47:48. | |
they are inalienable, and we shouldn't have | :47:49. | :47:49. | |
to sacrifice freedoms, although we do have to weigh it up | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
against things like protecting ourselves, | :47:53. | :47:54. | |
so I don't necessarily | :47:55. | :47:55. | |
think that we need to I think what we need is more | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
education, because I think us, as people, we abuse the NHS, | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
and I think more money should be spent on educating people in how | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
to look after themselves so they don't have | :48:09. | :48:10. | |
to use the NHS as much. People are already | :48:11. | :48:13. | |
on 20-40% tax, so I think I think it's just how | :48:14. | :48:16. | |
they decide to allocate it. We need skills in this | :48:17. | :48:24. | |
country, here in Manchester and in the rest | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
of the country, not just Therefore, you need | :48:28. | :48:29. | |
the engineers, the doctors, the scientists, and they are welcome | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
in this country, and I do think it's desirable that they can speak | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
English, particularly northern Joining us now is Miranda Phillips | :48:38. | :48:39. | |
from the National Centre Thank you for coming and discussing | :48:40. | :48:56. | |
this with us. I don't want to summarise the whole thing, but I'll | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
be becoming more kind to each other in the way we look at others? Yeah, | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
a little kinder and more soft-hearted. We think there has | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
been a reaction against austerity. There is increased support for | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
higher taxation to spend more on public services like health, | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
education and social benefits, and we see a softening of attitudes | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
towards benefit recipients, too, so that sums it up in some ways. We are | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
tougher in other areas, certainly in terms of national security. Is that | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
because of what has happened recently? It is quite a big focus. | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
It is a consistent finding over time. We have been working on | :49:36. | :49:41. | |
tracking attitudes for over 30 years, and on national security, | :49:42. | :49:44. | |
civil liberties and where the balance should lie, attitudes are | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
very stable, and our data were collected before the recent attacks | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
in Manchester and London, so I don't think it is a response to the most | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
recent situation. You asked whether or not the Government should be able | :49:58. | :50:01. | |
to tap into phones at times of heightened terrorist threat - what | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
do people say? A clear majority are happy for things like that to | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
happen, not just tapping phones but also an appetite for the Government | :50:11. | :50:13. | |
to have more powers in terms of detention without trial. 53% say | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
they would be happy for detention to happen indefinitely. Is that people | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
becoming more Draconian? Interestingly, attitudes aren't | :50:27. | :50:28. | |
changing on this particularly. This is a stable view for the public. | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
They seem to feel that some infringement of Civil Liberties is | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
acceptable when it comes to protecting citizens. Were you | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
surprised by the findings? One of the most surprising findings is on | :50:43. | :50:48. | |
attitudes to our personalise. We have seen a shift on attitudes to | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
same-sex relationships, for example. In 1987, at the height of the AIDS | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
crisis, just one in ten people thought they were not wrong at all, | :50:58. | :51:06. | |
and that has gone up to 64% now, a huge change. It is the use of older | :51:07. | :51:14. | |
groups and religious groups who are changing their views the most and | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
the quickest, and they are the groups who would traditionally have | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
been opposed to these things. Went to the next results,? Another year. | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
We will need to get you to come back. -- when do the results come | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
out next? Here's Carol with a look | :51:33. | :51:35. | |
at this morning's weather. The rain is continuing to fall, | :51:36. | :51:50. | |
rotating around this low-pressure area. It is heavy in eastern | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
England. Behind it, it will brighten, but there could be | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
thunderstorms. Northern Ireland will brighten up, but the driest weather | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
will be across Scotland. The sunniest conditions will be in the | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
West. Temperatures 12-19dC. This evening and overnight, rain advances | :52:10. | :52:12. | |
to the North, getting through northern England, into Scotland and | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
Northern Ireland. This cold wind comes in from the North Sea, and a | :52:18. | :52:27. | |
range of temperatures from 11-13dC. Tomorrow, the rain will affect | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
Scotland and Northern Ireland more, also affecting Wales. A lot of dry | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
weather nonetheless. Sunshine comes through, but if you are exposed to | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
the wind, it will feel a bit on the nippy side. Heading into Friday, | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
this whole system starts to sink South and we can, so the rain coming | :52:46. | :52:54. | |
south would be as heavy. The range is -- the wind changes direction to | :52:55. | :53:00. | |
northerly. A few showers in the south. High temperature of 22 | :53:01. | :53:00. | |
Celsius. A Sikh shopkeeper who called his | :53:01. | :53:09. | |
convenience store "Singhsburys" has come up with a new name | :53:10. | :53:23. | |
after the supermarket chain The tiny shop in North Tyneside | :53:24. | :53:25. | |
is now called "Morrisinghs". The shopkeeper is Jel Singh Nagra | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
and he's in our Newcastle studio. Good morning to you. Tell me, you | :53:30. | :53:40. | |
had to change the original name, did you? Yes. It was about six years | :53:41. | :53:50. | |
ago. The name was chosen by the previous owner. I took over. It was | :53:51. | :53:57. | |
a bit too close in terms of the font and colour to the supermarket, so we | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
had to take it down. Were you testing Morrisons by going for | :54:03. | :54:10. | |
Morrisinghs? Know. Everyone still called it Singhsburys, but with the | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
post office closing down and there being a refit, we wanted to give it | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
a new lease of life. We wanted to put it on the map as well, so we | :54:20. | :54:25. | |
picked second back. How is it going with the new name? It has gone | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
worldwide. It has been a crazy few days. It is banter, and us northerns | :54:31. | :54:39. | |
like that. It hasn't done business any harm, and Morrisons have been | :54:40. | :54:43. | |
absolutely brilliant. Is that Morrisons or Morrisinghs? Morrisons! | :54:44. | :54:51. | |
So they have a sense of humour and they are happy for you to continue | :54:52. | :54:55. | |
with that name? They have actually wish us luck and said that us and | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
our customers have good taste. Are you thinking of rolling it out, this | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
shop, having more of them? No, I am struggling to cope with this one, | :55:06. | :55:11. | |
never mind another! It is hard. I am doing 90- odd hours a week, but I'm | :55:12. | :55:20. | |
happy. I don't actually live in the area, but I travel there, and it is | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
such a lovely place. If anyone is passing, come in. I love the way you | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
are advertising the brand as well! Oh, yes! Do you have any sympathy | :55:33. | :55:35. | |
for Sainsbury is trying to protect their brand? Yes, I do. The last | :55:36. | :55:40. | |
time, it was the same colour and font as there is. There are other | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
Sainsbury 's signs out there that are different colours and have been | :55:48. | :55:52. | |
left alone, but ours was just too close. I inherited that when I took | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
over the business. If you ever need to change Morrisinghs, you could go | :55:58. | :56:10. | |
for, wait for it. Mac Marks Singhers. -- you could go for... | :56:11. | :56:22. | |
Marks Singhers. There are a few out there. It is all good banter. | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
Good luck. I think the shop will be full. The man behind the magnificent | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
Singhsburys! -- Morrisinghs! Steph's here, and she's brought | :56:31. | :56:43. | |
Matt Allwright with her. You're here to talk | :56:44. | :56:45. | |
about Watchdog Live. What sort of things have you been | :56:46. | :56:55. | |
covering? Is the programme changing? It is live and in Salford. I am not | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
going to that London any more - bring it up yet! We will be live | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
every Wednesday at 8pm, and we have loads of cracking stories. We are | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
jamming the stuff in, every so much content. It is almost brimming over | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
the top. Are we better at complaining these days? Mr | :57:16. | :57:22. | |
Morrisinghs there was talking about how social media got things done | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
weak that out there, and we use that to complain. -- social media gets | :57:29. | :57:42. | |
things out there. People can achieve things by the end of the programme, | :57:43. | :57:49. | |
that's the beauty of it being live. There are some things you have been | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
looking at that people possibly won't want to know about over | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
breakfast, but do tell us. We are doing our thing on hygiene every | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
week, because it is quite scary... Look at your face, because you know | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
what's coming. We did a test in various coffee shops around the | :58:06. | :58:08. | |
country, and one of the things that came out as fairly shocking was when | :58:09. | :58:12. | |
we tested the ice will stop you know the ice you get in your blended | :58:13. | :58:20. | |
drinks in a copy shop? Summer drinks? -- coffee shop. There was a | :58:21. | :58:29. | |
very unpleasant bacterium found on them. Without going into too much | :58:30. | :58:33. | |
detail, it could have come from people not washing their hands | :58:34. | :58:37. | |
properly and then serving the ice. Are we talking to? You weren't meant | :58:38. | :58:47. | |
to say that! That's quite serious. We're talking about three of the | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
biggest coffee chains here, and they have all said they are looking at | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
their policies, retraining staff. They take it really seriously. Also, | :58:56. | :59:02. | |
cost say they are changing the scoops that they use for serving the | :59:03. | :59:19. | |
ice. -- Costa. We are looking at sales people and their practices. | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
This week, we are looking at the company that sells a wall coating. | :59:24. | :59:30. | |
And the way they selling it -- they sell it, and the way they cold call | :59:31. | :59:34. | |
people, it's completely unacceptable. There is a customer of | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
theirs who suffered from Alzheimer's who was told to leave the property | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
at a comeback, not once but twice. The new series starts tonight at 8pm | :59:44. | :59:50. | |
on BBC One. And I will be back at one point. I'm not going completely. | :59:51. | :00:02. | |
Six weeks. I'm getting sleep! You know how I feel about that, Steph. | :00:03. | :00:04. | |
Well done! It's called Man v Fat - | :00:05. | :00:08. | |
a football competition 24 leagues across the UK set up | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
specifically to help Set up up two years ago, | :00:11. | :00:17. | |
the men taking part have so far lost a combined total of more | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
than 4,000 stone. Kat Downes is pitchside | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
in Manchester for us this morning. The numbers are staggering? They | :00:24. | :00:38. | |
are. I will speak to somebody who lost 27% of his body weight. Through | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
playing football, getting into weight loss by playing football, | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
changing lifestyles completely. That is what it is all about, getting men | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
engaged in weight loss and changing the way that they eat and the way | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
that they live. Getting more active and healthy. Some zumba classes and | :00:55. | :01:04. | |
Bikini diets did not work, these men got together with other guys to shed | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
stones, and it has been successful. 3000 men across the country have | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
lost a combined total of more than 30 tonnes. I'm joined by the founder | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
ducking the footballs on the side of the here. We are in serious danger | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
he! What gave you the idea to set this up? The fact that there was | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
nothing out there for men. There was injustice, everything seemed to be | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
targeted exclusively at women. There didn't seem to be anything suitable | :01:37. | :01:38. | |
for men that would provide support and provide accountability. When you | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
are looking to lose weight. And how does it work? Goals on the pitch | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
count but also weight loss goals? It is all about combining scores | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
between those weighing is that we have before the game and on the | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
pitch. Between those, we get the final score for the game and that is | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
how we decide on matches. The camaraderie and teamwork, run us | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
through those team names, we've been loving it. They are all generated by | :02:08. | :02:17. | |
players, things like Chafing the Dream, and in Manchester we had B-17 | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
Stone Raises! And you are the dietician who works with the group, | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
is not all about working with football? Men have seen dieting is | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
something that women do that we underpin everything that they do | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
with healthy eating lifestyle changes that make such a big | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
difference long-term. The teamwork and working for a team, scoring | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
points, with nutritional principles, that is working for these guys. | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
Then, you lost 27% of your body weight. You bought so much into the | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
philosophy that you are now a coach with the group. That philosophy gets | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
everyone to stick with their goals of weight loss, how important is it | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
that you have these guys you play football with? It is easy to let | :03:09. | :03:16. | |
yourself down and say, you start next Monday, but if you delay, you | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
could get minus points. It is important to get straight to it. | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
Brilliant, your story is remarkable. The guys have been playing for BBC | :03:27. | :03:35. | |
Breakfast Benefit, we have several teams and I can hand the BBC | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
Breakfast man versus that trophy to the winning team this morning. Thank | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
you for giving up your time and playing hours of football. The | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
winning team is... Manchester! CHEERING | :03:49. | :04:03. | |
CLAPPING STUDIO: Locale much it means. And | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
earlier on, Dan, you spotted an excellent goal? | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
Earlier on when we were talking to Kat - there was a brilliant goal | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
A quick turn of pace and a big curl into the corner. Absolutely | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
fantastic. Not a bad touch for a big fella. And he will have lost weight, | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
scoring goals because of the weight that he lost. So many people have | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
asked about it today. If you go onto BBC Breakfast social media today, | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
there's more information about how you can sign up. And if you lost | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
your target weight, I was concerned you could not play any more but you | :04:44. | :04:44. | |
can. Congratulations to our winners. That's all from me this morning, I | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
look at the headlines That's all from me this morning, I | :04:48. | :06:23. | |
will be back with lunchtime news at 1:30pm. | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
Scheming, affairs, and a close call to overthrow the Monarchy - | :06:31. | :06:32. | |
there was a lot to pack in to the last series | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
of 'The Windsors' - which is a comedy soap opera | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
This year is no different, with the addition of actor | :06:39. | :06:46. | |
Kathryn Drysdale, who plays Prince Harry's new | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
We'll meet her in a moment, as well as Richard Goulding who's | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
First, let's take a look at the new series. | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
She's feeling a little unsure of herself, I'm taking her to meet dad | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
and Camilla later. I can give you some pointers... Would you? They can | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
be more for more than us... I think we said the Dresden china, Baines. | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
Let's begin, now. Listen, broke, I'm worried about this meeting with dad | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
and Camilla. Great-uncle Edward had to abdicate because he fell in love | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
with an American divorcee. How did you know that? By watching The Crown | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
on Netflix. Meghan is an American divorcee, I cannot be expected to | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
learn another language by living in France. That was years ago, the | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
modern royal family is completely different now. No, Baines, that is | :07:42. | :07:42. | |
the Devonport! It is so naughty! I was caught | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
Singh, when you see -- I was corpsing! Does that happen | :07:46. | :08:03. | |
a lot on set? Yes, I was asked who was the worst at corpsing, and I | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
thought it was me. It happens a lot, it's a very funny show. What is the | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
reaction? Take us back to the first series, did you expect it to go down | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
so well? To be honest, I didn't. I thought it would be a little | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
shocking and on the edge. It felt like a one-off experiment. But it | :08:22. | :08:28. | |
has caught the element of the public imagination in some way, I've never | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
been recognised on the streets before and that has happened. You | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
talk about it being shocking and on the edge, maybe that is where the | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
humour has to come from? Absolutely, it's important to do stuff that has | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
ruffled a few feathers and I think it has in certain quarters but that | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
is a good thing. Did you watch the first series? I did, I already knew | :08:50. | :08:56. | |
Hugh, who plays Prince William, I absolutely loved it. I barely | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
laughed. When you play a character like Meghan Markle, -- I really | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
laughed. When she comes to this country she is on the front pages of | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
the newspapers, people talk about her all the time. Does that come | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
with responsibility, as well as that comedy element? I think so, there is | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
a fascination with her at the moment. But because the world of The | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
Windsors is very different, there is so much we can get away with. The | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
freedom, especially within my wardrobe... I did not feel too much | :09:29. | :09:35. | |
of a huge pressure to represent the real Meghan Markle. Exactly, you, | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
presumably, do not think he represent the real Prince Harry...? | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
But they are the royal family. Some people hold them very dear. And | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
there you are, colouring them, really? There are some elements | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
where it is important to be mindful that you are playing a real person | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
who is alive, and as Harry recently said in the press, has a sensitive | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
side. Comments about his own mental health and so one, we are very | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
respectful of that. I wanted to mention that, in the last week he | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
has revealed so much about what he has been through. It must impact | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
you, in some ways? It impacts on everybody, what he says is brave and | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
important. There is that side of it, but The Windsors is a ridiculous | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
flight of fancy and does not bear any resemblance to the real people. | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
In the end, I think, for all of its naughty humour, it is rather | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
touching. I love that you have played Prince Harry in two different | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
series! In The Crown, King Charles the third committee played Harry, | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
that was a feature length film. Twice, that must be a result, as an | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
actor? I don't have ginger hair, but as soon as it is dyed ginger, people | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
say, you must played Prince Harry? I say yes, I'm a professional Prince | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
Harry! Do you have any anecdotal evidence, have you heard anything | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
about any of the Royal family possibly watching this? You have, | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
haven't you? I did, I heard a rumour that possibly Beatrice watched it, | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
but I don't know if that was true. The first day on set, I said, I | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
don't know if you know that they watch it... A couple of crew members | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
said that it was possibly Beatrice, but I do not know if that is true. | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
What is good from your point of view is that there is a new character to | :11:38. | :11:45. | |
play! I know! That is great from the point of view of the series. It can | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
reinvent itself, having fresh characters in it every year, however | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
often it may happen... Especially if they marry... Exactly! Have you | :11:55. | :12:03. | |
planned your dress? ... Yes! You have freedom | :12:04. | :12:03. | |
over the wardrobe, as you say. All of the best for the second series. | :12:04. | :12:12. | |
Have you met Prince Harry yet? No, I would really like to. It would be | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
lovely to have a drink with him one day, and apologise. You say you are | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
a professional Prince Harry, do you think they are watching the | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
programme somewhere and having a giggle? I would love to think that | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
they would sit down and have time to have a beer and giggle at us doing a | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
version of themselves but no. I doubt they have time and would give | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
two figs about it! I appreciate your honesty! Thank you. | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
The Windsors is on next Wednesday evening on Channel 4 at 10 o'clock. | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
Thank you to both of you. We will leave you this morning with some of | :12:42. | :12:49. | |
the tributes outside of the church near Grenfell Tower. It is two weeks | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
on from the disaster that killed at least 79 people. We spoke to | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
residents there this morning. With powerful testimony from them, the | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
feeling in the community where there are so many unanswered questions. | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
The Victoria Derbyshire show is there this morning on BBC Two, | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
speaking to survivors and trying to get answers to some of those | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
questions. That's all from us on BBC Breakfast, back tomorrow, goodbye | :13:16. | :13:16. | |
for now. Across the country, | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
11 million people But how would their landlords manage | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
living as tenants? | :13:29. | :13:33. |