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Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

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Munchetty.

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A round of applause from EU leaders

as Theresa May tells them she can

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deliver a smooth Brexit.

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The show of support

for the Prime Minister came

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at a dinner in Brussels,

where the EU will today officially

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move Brexit talks to the next

stage of negotiations.

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Good morning - it's

Friday, 15th December.

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Also this morning, a new study

finds one in six parents

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allow their children

to drink at the age of 14,

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but doctors warn it's

putting their health at risk.

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In sport, another collapse

for England's cricketers -

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a century for Bairstow brightens up

day two of the third Ashes Test,

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but once he was gone,

the tailenders soon followed.

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A record number of people turned 70

this year so what is life really

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like the baby boomers in 2017? I am

at a retirement village in Surrey

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this morning to find out.

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As he takes on the role

of The Greatest Showman,

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Hugh Jackman tells me how

he got into character.

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This was me on set all day. And it

looks easy, but I dropped the first

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300.

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And Matt has the weather.

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He is enjoying a festival of light

this morning.

Good morning. What

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better way to brighten up a dark

winter morning than with hundreds of

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lanterns? We will be amongst the

more morning. I have the forecast

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which begins cold and icy this

morning. Only a few showers but on

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the weekend it gets milder. See you

in 50 minutes.

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Good morning.

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First, our main story.

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Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

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will give the green light for talks

to move to the second stage.

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Last night at a dinner in Brussels,

Theresa May insisted

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she was on course for

what she termed a "smooth" Brexit.

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So what does the next

stage look like?

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Talks will now focus

on the transition deal

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between the two sides,

as well as their future relationship

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and trading arrangements.

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Mrs May has said she wants

discussions on transition settled

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by March 2018.

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That's the period after the UK

will have officially left the EU

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but might still be

abiding by EU law.

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However, with a Brexit Day vote

in Parliament next week

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on whether to put a precise time

and date on the UK's exit

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from the EU, both sides will be

aware that the clock is ticking.

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Our political correspondent Eleanor

Garnier is in Westminster this

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morning. Now, if we keep past this

point, or if Theresa May can get

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past this point, she will definitely

be breathing a little easier, I

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imagine?

I am sure there will be a

huge sigh of relief in Downing

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Street when the EU officially

confirms the talks can move on to

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the next stage later on. And I think

Theresa May, this is perhaps

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written's best moment in the process

so far, but she will not actually be

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in Brussels to enjoy it. --

Britain's. That is because the EU

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laws mean Britain cannot be there

when the other 27 member states are

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discussing the negotiations. But at

a dinner last night when the Prime

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Minister expressed her commitment to

a smooth Brexit, ship leaked at a

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round of applause. I think that is a

reminder of how up and down these

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talks are, a bit like a

rollercoaster ride. Remember last

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week there was disaster when the

Democratic Unionist party blocked

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the deal, and then triumph when

progress was eventually made? There

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was defeat in the House of Commons

for the government on Wednesday, and

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it looks like there is more trouble

brewing next week in Parliament

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about whether or not to fix the date

we leave the EU in law. I think

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there will be cheers today both in

Brussels and here at home, but that

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doesn't mean all the controversial

elements have been solved or that

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all the difficult questions have in

answer.

Elenor Comer thank you. --

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Eleanor Garnier, thank you.

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One in six parents in the UK

gives their children alcohol

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by the age of 14,

according to new research.

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That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

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until they are at

least a year older.

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Researchers from University College

London also found white,

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well-educated parents were most

likely to have a relaxed attitude

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to young people drinking.

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Philippa Roxby reports.

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A new study suggests teenagers

enjoying alcohol for the first time

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may not be a good idea, because it

is harmful to children and their

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bodies are not ready for it. The

research team from University

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college London and Pennsylvania

state University found 17% of

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parents have let their children

drink alcohol by the age of 14. Well

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educated parents of white children

were more likely to allow their

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adolescent children to drink then

unemployed and ethnic minority

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parents. Half of all 14-year-olds

said they had tried more than a few

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sips of alcohol.

People at a young

age tend to think it is the right

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thing to do, and obviously it is not

really the right thing to do.

It

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depends on the child really. On the

parents. And how responsible they

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are, really.

If they are encouraging

it, like it is a good then, yet they

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might do it on their own all the

time and think it is OK...

Obviously

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there is a limit. The study also

found that light or moderate

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drinking parents were just as likely

to let their children have alcohol

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as heavy drinking parents.

Parents

of socially advantage children might

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believe it is teaching them

responsible alcohol use and

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inoculating them against the future

dangers of alcohol but we have no

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evidence to support this view and

the chief medical officer recommends

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an alcohol free childhood, so no

drinking before the age of 15,

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because it can be harmful to their

growth and develop it.

Alcohol

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charities said parents needed more

guidance from schools and doctors on

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how to talk to their children about

alcohol. There are devices to set

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the rules for teenagers on alcohol

and to be open and honest with them

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about its effects.

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The Church of England has apologised

to the family of a bishop

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for failings in the way it

investigated allegations of child

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abuse against him more

than 50-years after his death.

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An independent review

of the investigation into the former

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Bishop of Chichester, George Bell,

is being published this morning.

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He died in 1958.

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The White House says Donald Trump

and the Russian president,

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Vladimir Putin, have discussed

working together to resolve

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the crisis over North Korea's

nuclear programme.

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Meanwhile, the most senior UN

official to visit North Korea

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for six years told the BBC,

Pyongyang should re-open

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communication channels with

South Korea, which were suspended

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in 2009.

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Charges have been brought

against the leader of the far-right

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group, Britain First

in connection with a rally held

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in Belfast in August.

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Paul Golding is accused

of using threatening,

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insulting or abusive

words or behaviour.

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His group's deputy leader,

Jayda Fransen, appeared in court

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yesterday to face the same charge

in relation to the rally.

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She was later arrested and charged

in connection with a separate

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incident in Belfast on Wednesday.

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Roger Federer has been named

the BBC's Overseas Sports

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Personality of Year

for a record fourth time.

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The 36-year-old from Switzerland -

who won his eighth Wimbledon title

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in 2017 - said he was "incredibly

proud" to receive the award,

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which was voted for by the public

David Ornstein looks back at yet

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another stellar year for one

of the greatest sportsmen

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of all time.

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The crowning glory of yet another

historic season for Roger Federer.

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The first man to win

Wimbledon eight times,

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extending his record to 19

Grand Slams titles and at 35,

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proving age is no

barrier to greatness.

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Ravaged by injury in 2016,

Federer's best days looked

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behind him, however the legendary

Swiss was back on song

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at the Australian Open,

renewing his rivalry

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with Rafael Nadal and coming out

on top, the first major success

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in 4.5 years.

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Roger Federer skipped the clay-court

season to prepare for grass and how

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it paid off on the lawns of SW 19,

the oldest male champion in the open

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era, for the loss

of not a single set.

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The target is being Wimbledon,

have been for a year

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Federer is just in a different

league.

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Previously, Roger Federer was level

with Muhammad Ali and Usain Bolt

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as a 3-time winner of

Overseas Sports Personality.

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Now he's in a class his own.

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Well... This is what we have in the

studio, and we are strict orders to

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be careful with it this year. Aren't

we, Mike?

Yes, because on a certain

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BBC programme the other day it might

have been dropped.

So this is the

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BBC Sports Personality of the Year

trophy, which was handed out on

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Sunday night?

Yes, it has been going

since 1954. Silverplated, 40 at.

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Sports stars like Andy Murray have

won it many times and they say it is

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one of the most prized trophies in

sport. It means so much to them, to

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win this. The overall achievement of

their year. For Roger Federer to win

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it again, that is unbelievable. But

we all love him. What a role model

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and an icon.

There was a time not so

long ago when people were writing

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him off.

I did, yes. 36, you can

understand that.

I'm going to take a

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closer look at that. All those

shields which have the names, I

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wonder where the space is for the

next shield?

That is a good

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question. We will have to have a

look. I'm sure they have thought of

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that.

Take us to the Ashes.

Well, in

sport, when you have an opponent on

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the ropes you have to be lethal.

England haven't, and Australia got a

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sniff and were back in it.

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A mixed morning for England on the

second day of the third test in

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Perth. After Bairstow's success, the

site collapse. Not a bad score, but

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it could have been better. Australia

replied, not trouble but also far by

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the England bowlers. They do really

sense they are getting back into

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this third test. Already 2-0 up in

the series as well.

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The most successful female jockey

in British flat racing,

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Hayley Turner, has been banned

from riding for three months

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for breaching betting rules.

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She staked 164 bets at a profit

of £160 over 18 months.

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The last of the non-league

sides is out

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of the FA Cup.

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Hereford lost to

Fleetwood last night

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and they take on Leicester

in the next round, so we'll see

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a return for Jamie Vardy

to his old club.

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And despite being caught

napping betweeen frames,

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Ronnie O'Sullivan is awake enough

to make it through to

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the quarter-finals of

snooker's Scottish Open.

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The power naps do not seem to be

doing him much good, do they?

It is

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a great story. His attitude

throughout has been...

So

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refreshing.

It really has been.

Thank you. We are going to look

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through the papers. Let's begin with

the front pages.

The Daily

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Telegraph, this is a story we have

been looking at today. An enquiry

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has found a Church of England panel

incorrectly branded George Pell a

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paedophile despite a lack of

evidence. The Church of England

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destroy the reputation of a

respected the ship I naming him

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based on a single uncorroborated

allegation 60 years after his death.

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-- George Pell. And a picture you

will see on many FrontPage is today,

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the victims of the Grenfell Tower

Judy being remembered six months

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since that fire ripped through the

towering Kensington and took the

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lives of more than 70 people.

Relatives, friends and survivors of

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the blaze gathering at Saint Pauls

Cathedral yesterday.

Politics very

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clearly on the front page of the

Daily Mail. Theresa May getting

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slammed for the various things which

have gone wrong. Celebrations in

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Brexit with the trade talks likely

to get the official go-ahead today.

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A round of applause at dinner last

night from the EU counterparts. The

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Mirror taking a different approach.

The Times mentioning that Theresa

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May will drop the Brexit did after

this rebel defeat. -- Brexit date

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bid. She is backing away from plans

to write a Brexit date into law in

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order to avoid a second defeat. The

date was set for March 29, 2019,

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that is the legal departure for

departure -- legal deadline for

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departure from the EU.

We have lots

more on the Chris Froome story this

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week. He has been saying that he

hasn't overstepped the mark and he

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is providing information to the

authorities to explain why he had

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twice the level allowed the legal

asthma drugs in his system. This was

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during a test during the Vuelta a

Espana. He has spoken of his shock.

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Also on this story, Tony Martin, one

of his rivals, a four-time world

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champion in time trials, has said

that actually, the way it has been

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treated and handled has been double

standards and a scandal and thinks

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that Chris Froome should be banned

while investigations continue.

And

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the doubts, the World Championship

starting. Lots of pictures of cones.

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This is Chris Dobie, he used to work

on the roads, putting out cones.

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Heir to the Cone. He is taking on

Phil Taylor, the world champion,

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today.

Does he wear that while he

plays darts?

No, just while he walks

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on. It is his trademark costume.

Heir to the Cone... I get it. It

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takes some time sometimes. It is

early in the morning.

I think we can

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show you the fullscreen version

here. You know the Christmas

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sweaters? Nicola Sturgeon and her

colleagues in the Scottish

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Parliament dressed up in their

Christmas sweaters. Some, if you

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look carefully, you can see they are

wearing fake beards as well. Like

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Father Christmas. They have gone for

it, the whole hog.

They look like

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they are having fun.

Christmas

chatters -- jumpers are not

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flattering but we'll wear them.

That

is the point.

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Here's something to get

you into the seasonal spirit,

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we've sent Matt to a rather magical

latern festival at Longleat.

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we've sent Matt to a rather magical

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not in

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not in his

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not in his Christmas

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not in his Christmas jumper

latern festival at Longleat.

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He's not in his Christmas jumper

yet, might be too cold, but he is

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certainly enjoying some festive

lights. Good morning, where are you?

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We are at Longleat in Wiltshire,

among hundreds of lanterns and what

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better way to brighten up a dark

winter morning? We're at the

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festival of lights, which, as you

may be able to tell from some of the

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footage you've been watching, it is

a theme of magic storytelling and

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behind me we've got Hansel and

Gretel looking happy for the time

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being, and a glorious galleon behind

linked to the story of the Little

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mermaid. We'll be looking at these

lanterns later in the programme.

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But certainly a chilly start in

Wiltshire, as it is for many.

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Looking at the forecast, a cold

start, anywhere could have frost and

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highs this morning, especially

following overnight showers. Showers

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in southern counties at the moment

but by 9am they will clear away from

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the far south coast and then the

rest of the day for many should be

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dry but in eastern counties of

England we already have showers

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rolling in, they will continue to

roll in through the day, hail, sleet

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and snow. The Midlands and west

England should be dry and sunny and

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sunny and frosty in much of

Scotland, in northern and eastern

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areas, some showers, there could be

wintry. In Northern Ireland, fewer

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showers at the moment. -- they

could. Lot of sunshine to start the

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day but some showers running down

across the far south of Wales across

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Cornwall and they will come all day

long, maybe producing flurries of

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snow over higher ground. You don't

have to come too far inland, Devon,

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Somerset, good parts of Wales,

central and southern England, a dry

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morning and a dry day ahead after

the showers. The King at the

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forecast for the rest of the day,

showers rolling down the used in

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counties of England -- looking at. A

colder day here in the wind and

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those showers at times. Further

west, only a few showers, many will

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be dry and bright and temperatures

down on yesterday given the

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northerly wind, feeling colder

today. Into the night, showers will

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continue around the coasts

especially in the east and one or

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two in the western fringes of Wales,

Cornwall and Northern Ireland but

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most will have clear skies

overnight, widespread frost

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developing and that will lead to the

risk of ice as we go into Saturday

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morning. Freezing fog patches may

take a while to clear first thing on

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Saturday but at the start of the

weekend, lovely, crisp, fresh,

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bright, lots of sunshine for many. A

better day across eastern parts once

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the early showers have cleared but

cloud increases for the rest of the

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day and showers developing in Wales,

the Midlands and parts of south-west

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England and tomorrow we start to see

temperatures climbing up, especially

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in the south-west, but for most a

cold day, even with the sunshine in

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the east. Windier conditions on

Sunday, south-westerly direction,

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that will bring the change some may

be longing for. After a cold spell,

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things will be warming up, but wet

and windy weather spreading south

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and east. Still a bit chilly in some

eastern areas to begin with but by

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the time we begin Sunday the milder

air will be here that mild theme

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will continue for next week. More

stunning imagery from here through

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the morning but for now, back to

Naga and Charlie.

It really looks

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colourful. It's the time when being

dark at this time of the morning

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really works.

Definitely!

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More people than every before

will have turned 70 in 2017.

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That's according to the Office

of Natioanal Statistics.

0:18:530:19:01

There are nearly 800,000 baby

boomers celebrating the milestone.

0:19:010:19:03

So what's it like for

the generation who have

0:19:030:19:06

been through some of the worlds

biggest cultural and social changes?

0:19:060:19:09

Breakfast's John Maguire

is in Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.

0:19:090:19:11

It's a bit early to celebrate even

if

0:19:110:19:13

It's a bit early to celebrate even

if you are celebrating your 70th

0:19:130:19:15

birthday, but good morning. Ifill,

red wine every day, that extends

0:19:150:19:18

your life expectancy?

Really good

for you. Word good morning!

We are

0:19:180:19:22

at the Whiteley retirement village

in sorry, you'll get to know some of

0:19:220:19:28

these in a moment. By our all 70 but

as they have been saying they say 70

0:19:280:19:36

is the new 40 -- they are all. It's

an extraordinary place, 100 years

0:19:360:19:41

old, built by a Victorian

philanthropist. This is the bar,

0:19:410:19:47

that was the kitchen area. We will

come through the canteen. That was

0:19:470:19:52

Ben. There are 500 residents that

live here, built in the arts and

0:19:520:19:58

crafts style, architecture league,

so quite a special place. Earlier

0:19:580:20:02

this week we took those Baby

Boomers, 50 of them, 70 -year-olds,

0:20:020:20:06

to get an idea of what their life is

like these days, how it differs to

0:20:060:20:12

other generations and what they make

of being around in this day and age

0:20:120:20:17

fit and healthy in most cases.

0:20:170:20:20

We've gathered a group of

septuagenarians from across the UK

0:20:200:20:23

to deliberate, cogitate and

celebrate life at 70.

0:20:230:20:31

Here at the Hall Theatre in Crawley,

a town also born in 1947, it is

0:20:310:20:37

panto season and behind us is the

set for Snow white and the seven

0:20:370:20:41

balls. So the first question is

about going off to work. How many of

0:20:410:20:45

you here are still working? Workers

over there please.

0:20:450:20:49

People either retired or not working

over on that side please.

0:20:490:20:53

In our group 28% still work. This

isn't a scientific survey, of

0:20:540:20:59

course, but in 2005 the national

0:20:590:21:01

isn't a scientific survey, of

course, but in 2005 the national

0:21:010:21:02

figure was less than 5%. So you've

gone back to work?

Yes, because I

0:21:020:21:06

wanted to keep my brain going and I

wanted to give back actually all

0:21:060:21:10

that I have learnt in 70 years.

Going well?

Love it, love it. I'm

0:21:100:21:18

now do things I want to do rather

than things I have to do.

I work in

0:21:180:21:23

the fuel industry. A lot of people

think I looked like Robert De Niro.

0:21:230:21:28

I was going to say Robert De Niro.

You talking to me?

How many of you

0:21:280:21:34

are active at least once a week, I'm

talking about a brisk walk, maybe

0:21:340:21:38

jogging. 78% say they exercise.

I'm

still competing in triathlons.

Wow!

0:21:380:21:47

I do three sessions. Yoga. Pilates,

tai chi and tennis.

No, I have never

0:21:470:21:59

been interested in sport. Ira Ly on

genetics, all my family died all,

0:21:590:22:05

didn't like sport, so I'm depending

on that -- I rely.

How many of you

0:22:050:22:10

feel financially stable? 88% were

happy with their finances, better of

0:22:100:22:17

than younger generations.

My husband and I when we retired

0:22:170:22:21

sold our house, sold our home. At

the height of the property boom and

0:22:210:22:25

invested the money.

Our generation, people that did own

0:22:250:22:29

property have done well with it with

house prices, unlike the younger

0:22:290:22:33

generation, who are now struggling.

I have to watch my pennies and be

0:22:330:22:37

careful what I do and can't go on

expensive holidays.

There's no way I

0:22:370:22:42

would think we are poor or

struggling in anyway, but neither

0:22:420:22:46

are we rich.

And still working,

still touring at 70 is Kiki Dee.

I

0:22:460:22:53

think we're all trucking on really

for various reasons, to make a

0:22:530:22:57

living, working people, to keep

yourself active in the world if you

0:22:570:23:04

like so I think it's a great time to

be 70 actually.

0:23:040:23:08

Some fascinating views, stories and

a real insight I think into what it

0:23:080:23:12

feels like to be 70 years old in

this day and age but there's one

0:23:120:23:17

thing I'd definitely learned and

that is 70 is the new...

40!

0:23:170:23:23

Good morning. It is organised chaos

here this morning. Hope you enjoyed

0:23:270:23:33

meeting those folks, we drank some

of them back to talk to us again

0:23:330:23:37

this morning and Mike, well done, we

got your shot in at the end when

0:23:370:23:41

everyone went into a four. It was

his idea and we'll talk to him in a

0:23:410:23:45

second. Let's introduce you to some

of the residence at Whiteley, Terry

0:23:450:23:49

and Mori. I should introduce Milo,

we are seeing robots increasingly

0:23:490:23:58

being part of people's lives, the

idea of these as a companion for

0:23:580:24:03

older folks. Mike, it's...

He's all right, isn't he? OK. You

0:24:030:24:12

have lived here for how long? Terry,

you have lived here for how long?

0:24:120:24:20

Two years now.

What is life like a?

Peaceful. Cash

0:24:200:24:28

life like here.

It is laid out in a

large quadrant, like an idyllic

0:24:280:24:33

village, what are the parts of life

here that you enjoy the most?

I

0:24:330:24:41

would say it is the nature, the

surroundings are so beautiful and

0:24:410:24:46

calm.

Yeah, yeah. You are set in

wonderful grounds. I'm going to put

0:24:460:24:55

my lowdown on the ground, maybe he

needs to go to the loo! It is set in

0:24:550:25:00

a beautiful natural environment

here, isn't it?

Yes.

I know there

0:25:000:25:05

are lots of different organisations

and clubs to get involved in?

0:25:050:25:08

We've got a whole range of things.

If you want to join the something

0:25:080:25:14

it's going to be out there and if it

isn't then you can start it yourself

0:25:140:25:18

and gather people in. Let's talk to

some of the people we met in the

0:25:180:25:26

film earlier.

Mike, thanks for

coming up with the idea of putting a

0:25:260:25:30

four in the end of our piece on it

worked particularly well. We were

0:25:300:25:36

talking on social media about three

things that you feel as a

0:25:360:25:40

70-year-old, lots of people talked

family and talked about feeling fit

0:25:400:25:44

and healthy, perhaps more than

previous generations would have

0:25:440:25:47

expected to be at 70. We all keep

active.

Once upon a time you got to

0:25:470:25:53

50 and you slowed down and stop but

I don't think we have stopped, we

0:25:530:25:58

are all as active as we were in our

youth. One of our colleagues was

0:25:580:26:03

doing his triathlons.

Sitting next

to you. You have brought your medal,

0:26:030:26:07

show us your medal.

That is just

this year's haul.

Leslie, singing is

0:26:070:26:15

something that keeps you going?

It does, it keeps me very alert and

0:26:150:26:20

it is a fun thing to do. Icing with

an acapella... Icing with an

0:26:200:26:30

acapella harmony group, women, I

love it, ages 30 to 70 -- icing

0:26:300:26:36

with. I'm the oldest, of course! It

is great fun.

0:26:360:26:41

Wonderful, great to see you and we

will talk more to others during the

0:26:410:26:46

morning. Singing a big thing for us

over the next couple of weeks but

0:26:460:26:51

from Whiteley Village for the time

being, back to the studio and you

0:26:510:26:55

will see Ben next.

Where has my

Rogue one, where has the robot gone?

0:26:550:26:59

Did you kick it? -- Mira.

Here he

is, thank you very much.

Is that

0:26:590:27:08

going on your Christmas list?

I will get you one as well, Naga, is

0:27:080:27:16

that OK?

John, thank you very much.

Slightly stole the show, didn't it?

0:27:160:27:22

Certainly did, a very calm dog in

the background as well. It is all

0:27:220:27:26

happening

0:27:260:30:44

however, we're looking at more

sunshine around. Some fog patches to

0:30:440:30:47

start the day on Sunday but feeling

milder.

0:30:470:30:49

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

0:30:490:30:52

in half an hour.

0:30:520:30:53

Bye for now.

0:30:530:30:57

Hello, this is Breakfast

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

0:30:570:30:59

Munchetty.

0:30:590:31:00

It's 6:30.

0:31:000:31:00

We'll bring you all the latest news

and sport in a moment,

0:31:000:31:03

but also on Breakfast this morning:

0:31:030:31:05

The heart-stopping moment

when a drunk man scrambles

0:31:050:31:07

across the train tracks.

0:31:070:31:08

We'll hear a warning

from Network Rail about an increase

0:31:080:31:11

in the number of incidents

involving alcohol.

0:31:110:31:16

Also this morning, there's trouble

brewing in panto-land after a mum

0:31:160:31:19

complained a performance

of Dick Wittington was too

0:31:190:31:21

rude for children.

0:31:210:31:22

So is it time for this

Christmas tradition to clean

0:31:220:31:25

up its act?

0:31:250:31:30

If you ever see me walk out on a

stage you will always see me put my

0:31:300:31:35

hand out, I look for her in the

audience.

Your wife?

I look straight

0:31:350:31:39

at her, and it is a way of saying,

whatever happens, success or

0:31:390:31:43

failure, we've got each other.

0:31:430:31:45

And, he might be a Hollywood

megastar but Hugh Jackman told me

0:31:450:31:48

how his wife's unconditional love

has helped him deal with his nerves.

0:31:480:31:51

Good morning, here's a summary

of this morning's main stories

0:31:510:31:54

from BBC News.

0:31:540:31:55

Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

0:31:550:31:58

are expected give the green

light for talks to move

0:31:580:32:01

to the second stage.

0:32:010:32:02

At a dinner in Brussels last night,

Theresa May was applauded

0:32:020:32:05

by her fellow leaders

after stressing her desire

0:32:050:32:07

for a "smooth" departure.

0:32:070:32:08

Talks will now focus

on the transition deal

0:32:080:32:10

between the two sides

as well as the UK's relationship

0:32:100:32:13

and trading arrangements

with the European Union.

0:32:130:32:17

One in six parents in the UK

gives their children alcohol

0:32:170:32:20

by the age of 14,

according to new research.

0:32:200:32:22

That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

0:32:220:32:25

until they are at

least a year older.

0:32:250:32:27

Researchers from University College

London also found white,

0:32:270:32:30

well-educated parents were most

likely to have a relaxed attitude

0:32:300:32:33

to young people drinking.

0:32:330:32:44

The Church of England has apologised

for failings in the investigation of

0:32:440:32:49

a Bishop 50 years after his death.

An independent review into the form

0:32:490:32:55

-- former Bishop of Chichester,

George Pell, is being published this

0:32:550:33:01

morning. He died in 1958. -- George

Bell.

0:33:010:33:06

9 million adults in the UK

are chronically lonely,

0:33:060:33:09

according to a commission set

up by the MP Jo Cox,

0:33:090:33:11

before her murder.

0:33:110:33:12

It says loneliness is as harmful

to health as smoking 15 cigarettes

0:33:120:33:16

a day, and calls for a national

strategy to address the problem.

0:33:160:33:19

The government said it welcomed

the report and would set out plans

0:33:190:33:22

to tackle the issue in the new year.

0:33:220:33:24

Britain's most senior military

officer has warned of a new threat

0:33:240:33:27

posed by Russia to communications

cables that run under the sea.

0:33:270:33:30

The head of the Defence Staff,

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stuart Peach,

0:33:300:33:34

said Britain and NATO must avoid

the risk of a potentially

0:33:340:33:37

"catastrophic" effect on the economy

if the cables were cut.

0:33:370:33:43

Need to get updated on the cricket.

It is happening now.

A wicket for

0:33:430:33:47

England! One great thing about test

cricket is that your fortunes can

0:33:470:33:52

switch quicker than the flick of a

fox's tale. One moment to Australian

0:33:520:33:56

since they are getting back into it,

and then England make a breakthrough

0:33:560:34:00

in this session of play. It is so

important, because it could

0:34:000:34:04

determine whether England get back

into the series. A critical period.

0:34:040:34:08

It came after Australia appeared to

be getting back into the match. They

0:34:080:34:11

got rid of Jonny Bairstow for 119,

England ruled out for 403. A good

0:34:110:34:17

score, but they know it could have

been bigger. In Australia appeared

0:34:170:34:20

to be getting comfortable at the

crease, England found a crack at --

0:34:200:34:24

wicket out of nothing. A surprise to

David Warner, getting a touch.

0:34:240:34:29

Caught behind. A key batsman, and he

is rather cross with himself. I'm

0:34:290:34:33

not surprised. We will have more on

that as it happens throughout

0:34:330:34:37

Breakfast.

0:34:370:34:39

There'll be no non-league sides

in the third round of the FA Cup

0:34:390:34:43

after the last of them - Hereford -

lost 2-0 to Fleetwood

0:34:430:34:46

in a second round replay last night.

0:34:460:34:48

Cian Bolger scoring both goals.

0:34:480:34:49

Fleetwood will play

Leicester in the next round.

0:34:490:34:53

Hayley Turner, the most successful

female jockey in British flat racing

0:34:530:34:56

has been banned from riding

for three months for

0:34:560:34:59

breaching betting rules.

0:34:590:35:00

She staked 164 bets over

the space of a year and half,

0:35:000:35:03

which earned her a

profit of 160 pounds.

0:35:030:35:05

Turner retired in 2015

but kept her jockey's licence,

0:35:050:35:08

so the bets technically

placed her in breach of the rules.

0:35:080:35:17

I accept that there has to be some

sort of punishment, definitely. It

0:35:170:35:21

is I was in the wrong, absolutely.

Three months is quite harsh, though.

0:35:210:35:27

But that is their decision and there

is nothing I can do about it.

0:35:270:35:33

It is an equestrian sport in which

the wall gets higher and higher.

0:35:330:35:37

Here was a spectacular

performance from Laura Renwick

0:35:370:35:39

at the Olympia Horse Show in London,

who, rode Top Dollar to victory

0:35:390:35:43

in the Puissance, clearing 2 metres

20, which no-one else had managed.

0:35:430:35:46

He's a young horse, too,

only eight years old,

0:35:460:35:48

so all the more impressive.

0:35:480:35:50

Formula 1's new owners are looking

into whether the sport should

0:35:500:35:53

continue to use grid girls.

0:35:530:35:58

F1 has traditionally used female

models to perform duties including

0:35:580:36:00

holding umbrellas or name-boards.

0:36:000:36:01

It's become the subject of debate

as social attitudes have changed -

0:36:010:36:04

some races have begun to experiment,

using children as mascots,

0:36:040:36:07

or male models instead of female.

0:36:070:36:12

The PDC World Darts Championship got

under way at London's Alexandra

0:36:120:36:14

Palace last night, with defending

champion Michael van Gerwen

0:36:140:36:17

on top form.

0:36:170:36:18

'Mighty Mike' took just over half

an hour to beat fellow

0:36:180:36:21

Dutchman Christian Kist

by three sets to one.

0:36:210:36:28

Phil 'The Power' Taylor will be

doing his best to beat him

0:36:280:36:32

to the title, he begins what will be

the last World Championship

0:36:320:36:35

of his career tonight.

0:36:350:36:41

Really looking forward to it and I

am looking forward to finishing now.

0:36:410:36:44

It is the right time for me. It's

changed, the game is not the same

0:36:440:36:48

any more. The schedule is too busy.

To qualify, literally, now, it is

0:36:480:36:53

like the snooker. You go from one to

limit and the next. You are probably

0:36:530:36:58

talking seven days a week and I

can't do that at my age.

0:36:580:37:02

Ronnie O'Sullivan found

a novel way to recharge

0:37:020:37:04

at the Scottish Open

snooker yesterday.

0:37:040:37:06

He took power naps during his match

against China's Hang Li.

0:37:060:37:10

He said he was "totally out

for the count" at times.

0:37:100:37:13

It did the trick -

he won that match and another

0:37:130:37:16

in the evening to reach

the quarter-finals.

0:37:160:37:17

He'll play John Higgins tonight.

0:37:170:37:24

That's take some confidence to fall

asleep like that. I should have a

0:37:240:37:28

nap in between sport stories.

He is

very relaxed in general at the

0:37:280:37:32

moment. A relaxed attitude, he said

that beforehand.

It would be

0:37:320:37:36

offputting for your opponent as

well.

Completely. I promise I will

0:37:360:37:41

not drop. Can I have a drum roll,

please? The winner is... That is

0:37:410:37:47

quite good, actually. We can

announce that the overseas BBC

0:37:470:37:55

Sports Personality of the Year is

Roger Federer. Yes, he has got the

0:37:550:38:00

overseas award again after winning

his eighth Wimbledon title at the

0:38:000:38:03

age of 35. He defied the odds on

previous injuries to win Wimbledon

0:38:030:38:09

and the Australian Open in 2017, to

take his Grand Slam tally to 19.

0:38:090:38:13

This is a record fourth time that

Federer has won the award, which is

0:38:130:38:18

incredible. He is the oldest open

era winner of Wimbledon as well. My

0:38:180:38:23

goodness, this is big and heavy. The

Sports Personality of the Year

0:38:230:38:28

trophy, to be handed out on Sunday

night. It is spectacular. It looks

0:38:280:38:32

like a cake. Yes, it is, with all

those tiers. Four tiers.

We were

0:38:320:38:39

talking about names before, there

are still five when Shields left.

It

0:38:390:38:43

has been going since 1954, so not

many left.

They are beneath your

0:38:430:38:48

hand.

So, it is announced this

Sunday?

Yes, 12 contenders. You can

0:38:480:38:55

go on the BBC sports website to find

out who will take over from Andy

0:38:550:38:59

Murray, who won last year. I

remember him lifting it, you have to

0:38:590:39:03

be a sports person to lift it. It is

heavy.

Be careful.

I will take it

0:39:030:39:07

away now, it has been dropped in the

last few days.

Don't drop it.

I am

0:39:070:39:13

cuddling it, like big bear.

The

people who are involved in this,

0:39:130:39:17

they will be petrified watching him

handle that.

I'm putting it on the

0:39:170:39:20

table.

I am expecting a great big

crash. No. 6:39am is the time. The

0:39:200:39:27

weather is coming up in a few

minutes.

0:39:270:39:30

Damp, dirty and cockroach infested.

0:39:300:39:32

That's how a local government

watchdog has described the temporary

0:39:320:39:35

accommodation some homeless families

in England are being forced

0:39:350:39:37

to stay in.

0:39:370:39:38

A damning report says people

are being left for weeks on end

0:39:380:39:41

in spaces which are "squalid,

Dickensian and simply unacceptable

0:39:410:39:43

in modern society."

0:39:430:39:44

Michael King, the local government

and social care ombudsman joins us.

0:39:440:39:49

Good morning. There are different

kinds of homelessness, one is the

0:39:490:39:54

very visible one that people see at

this time of year, people in the

0:39:540:39:58

street. Your talking about a

different kind of homelessness?

0:39:580:40:00

Absolutely. People think of

homelessness is, and they think of

0:40:000:40:04

people sleeping in a shop doorway.

What our reporters exposing is what

0:40:040:40:08

is called hidden homelessness. These

are families who are perhaps living

0:40:080:40:12

in completely stable accommodation.

They get a bit from a private

0:40:120:40:16

rental, and suddenly they find

themselves in a situation they never

0:40:160:40:20

envisaged they would be in. They go

to the local authority for help and

0:40:200:40:25

in too many cases that we

investigate, they end up living in

0:40:250:40:31

unsuitable temporary

bed-and-breakfast type

0:40:310:40:33

accommodation. Sometimes a whole

family living in one room.

How do

0:40:330:40:36

these types of accommodation get on

the list? So to speak? That these

0:40:360:40:42

people are sent to?

The local

authority has a duty to house

0:40:420:40:45

people, and sometimes without

homeless, especially they have young

0:40:450:40:49

children, local authority has to

struggle to find a place to place

0:40:490:40:52

them. What we are seeing

increasingly is that local

0:40:520:40:55

authorities used to just be in

London, but in other parts of the

0:40:550:40:59

country they struggle to find

anywhere suitable to the vehicle.

0:40:590:41:02

Families should never be in

temporary connotation.

Where do they

0:41:020:41:04

find it?

Most of it is private

rented accommodation, increasingly

0:41:040:41:08

rented Ivy night. Lots of it is

absolutely horrendous, as you say.

0:41:080:41:14

We've seen situations where a family

with a young baby who had special

0:41:140:41:18

dietary needs, the baby had to go to

hospital over and over again because

0:41:180:41:22

they didn't have access to a clean

kitchen. That is not untypical.

0:41:220:41:25

There are rules in place the reason,

to stop the things you are talking

0:41:250:41:29

about. Explain this to us, the

six-week rule, suppliers, after six

0:41:290:41:33

weeks in temporary accommodation

they have to be rehoused? But you

0:41:330:41:37

are saying that simply isn't

happening?

It isn't. In the cases we

0:41:370:41:41

see, last year, the case that we

investigated, the minimum was 90

0:41:410:41:46

weeks, which is three times the

legal limits. We saw people in this

0:41:460:41:49

kind of accommodation for 20 or 30

months.

In practice, what is

0:41:490:41:53

happening, you get to the end of

that six-week period and even if

0:41:530:41:57

people know their rights, we are

dealing with people who are really

0:41:570:42:00

struggling, aren't we, they go to

the housing officer and say my six

0:42:000:42:03

weeks is up, so...

Nothing happens.

Do they have legal redress?

They

0:42:030:42:10

have a legal right to review. They

get the council to review the cop --

0:42:100:42:16

the quality of accommodation. But

lots of local authorities are simply

0:42:160:42:20

not telling them of their right to

review, and not telling them to come

0:42:200:42:24

to us. We are completely independent

of the council. We can investigate.

0:42:240:42:27

But people are not being told of our

rights enveloped in appalling

0:42:270:42:32

conditions.

How do they find out

about their rights?

Sometimes people

0:42:320:42:35

go to the Citizens' Advice Bureau.

The local authority should the going

0:42:350:42:40

and telling them that they can

request a review of the connotation.

0:42:400:42:43

We have seen situations where people

complain about the accommodation and

0:42:430:42:47

the council still doesn't help them.

A very interesting subject and

0:42:470:42:51

something we will talk about much

longer. We should say, the

0:42:510:42:54

government has said even one person

without a roof over their head is

0:42:540:42:58

too many and we are determined to

tackle all forms of homelessness,

0:42:580:43:01

and the government is promoting the

Homelessness Reduction Act, the

0:43:010:43:05

biggest change to homelessness

regulation in decades, which will

0:43:050:43:09

put -- which will require councils

to provide support to people being

0:43:090:43:13

left at risk of nowhere to go. It is

6:43 a.m.. Matt has the weather,

0:43:130:43:19

surrounded by some magnificent

scenery. This is not what we

0:43:190:43:23

traditionally think of Longleat

house looking?

0:43:230:43:26

Good morning. We are at the festival

of light. A very good morning to

0:43:290:43:35

stunning structures behind us, one

year in the making. These lanterns

0:43:350:43:39

which cover the grounds around the

house involve around 70 tons of

0:43:390:43:44

steel and 30,000 metres of fabric

which can wrap around the house, 124

0:43:440:43:49

times. The theme this year, if you

haven't guessed, is the magical

0:43:490:43:54

storytelling. Quite aptly, we are

amongst the Snow Queen tale. Some of

0:43:540:44:00

you have seen a bit of snow this

morning. Let's look at the forecast

0:44:000:44:04

today and into the weekend. The

forecast is surely across the United

0:44:040:44:09

Kingdom. Frost and ice around. Sleet

and snow flurries overnight, a bit

0:44:090:44:14

of snow around Stansted and Luton.

The showers you have seen around

0:44:140:44:18

southern England are on their way

out. Either time we get to the end

0:44:180:44:21

of rush hour they will be on the

south coast at Toukley. The Sun will

0:44:210:44:25

be turning brighter as well. Across

eastern counties of England as well,

0:44:250:44:29

a different day. You've got lots

more cloud, showers coming and going

0:44:290:44:32

all day. Rain, sleet and snow. You

don't have to come too far of the

0:44:320:44:37

west of the Pennines, the Midlands

and into Scotland, it will be

0:44:370:44:41

largely dry and sunny in Scotland,

but a frosty and icy start. HQ

0:44:410:44:45

showers in northern Scotland, one or

two for Northern Ireland, nowhere

0:44:450:44:48

near as many as yesterday. The same

can be said for Wales in the

0:44:480:44:52

south-west of England. Parts of

Wales and south-west England will

0:44:520:44:56

see showers through the day, but

into Devon and the rest of Wales and

0:44:560:45:00

much of south-west England it will

be dry and sunny. Once we have lost

0:45:000:45:04

the showers we have had over the

past half an hour or so. Eastern

0:45:040:45:09

areas are most prone to showers.

Wintry in nature, especially over

0:45:090:45:14

the hills. Quite a raw wind blowing

throughout the day. Further west,

0:45:140:45:20

other than those showers along the

coast, we have lots of dry and sunny

0:45:200:45:24

weather, except those showers way

out in the west. Temperatures today

0:45:240:45:28

will be lower than yesterday. Around

2- six degrees across many parts of

0:45:280:45:32

the country. That is how it looks

today. It is set to get milder as we

0:45:320:45:37

go into the weekend.

0:45:370:45:44

There is concern from some viewers

on social media about your hands,

0:45:440:45:49

they're worried you have holes in

your gloves?

I don't know what

0:45:490:45:52

you're talking about! They've got

bigger as we've gone through the

0:45:520:45:56

morning I'm afraid but they are

quite handy in that I can operate my

0:45:560:46:00

phone without taking my gloves of.

Perfect design, it's a design thing,

0:46:000:46:06

it isn't a fault!

Exactly, who needs

fancy gloves?

Chris Mears is coming,

0:46:060:46:12

we'll see what that brings! --

Christmas is coming.

0:46:120:46:16

This morning we're looking

at what it's like to be 70 in 2017.

0:46:160:46:19

With life expectancy increasing,

financing retirement

0:46:190:46:21

is a key concern.

0:46:210:46:22

Ben is in Walton-on-Thames

this morning.

0:46:220:46:30

Good morning.

0:46:300:46:31

Good morning. Welcome to Surrey. We

are here because we're looking at

0:46:310:46:36

the implications of turning 70.

Record numbers of people doing so

0:46:360:46:39

this year. That comes with all sorts

of associated costs. Are people

0:46:390:46:45

putting enough money away? Changes

to pensions over the last few years

0:46:450:46:49

have made it much more complicated

some say that has deterred people

0:46:490:46:53

saving for older age at of course

more people are living longer and

0:46:530:46:57

that will cost everyone a bit more

so we're going to look at some of

0:46:570:47:01

the implications for them. We are

here meeting all sorts of people and

0:47:010:47:05

I want to introduce you to two

guests here this morning, Shandra,

0:47:050:47:11

the chief executive of this

organisation, and Danielle from the

0:47:110:47:14

pensions policy Institute. This is a

pretty unique facility, talk us

0:47:140:47:20

through what is here and who lives

here.

We have a village full of 500

0:47:200:47:25

people, older people, of limited

means and that means most of the

0:47:250:47:29

people who live with us only have a

state pension and it means they're

0:47:290:47:33

eligible for state benefits

potentially around their housing

0:47:330:47:35

need and around care costs. Within

the whole village we have facilities

0:47:350:47:40

for people to live independently in

cottages, extra care facilities

0:47:400:47:43

where people live in flats and have

care provided and we have

0:47:430:47:50

residential and nursing care as well

but the village is a totality and

0:47:500:47:53

that's what makes it different, we

have community facilities.

You

0:47:530:47:56

touched on it, when people get to

70, very different needs, some are

0:47:560:48:00

very fit and active and healthy and

others need more support and you can

0:48:000:48:03

do that here?

We do, that's the

beauty of living in a community like

0:48:030:48:07

this because there's different

resources and facilities but our

0:48:070:48:10

biggest resource other people living

here and they help each other and

0:48:100:48:14

the volunteering element with what

people do on a day-to-day basis

0:48:140:48:17

makes a big difference. It's not

just about money, it's about people

0:48:170:48:28

connecting and bringing their gifts

and contributions as people to this

0:48:280:48:31

community, not just their money.

Daniela, this is a pretty unique

0:48:310:48:34

facility, it's not the same for

everyone nationwide, when we talk

0:48:340:48:37

about costs, or should we reconsider

how much money we're putting way for

0:48:370:48:41

older age because we're all living

longer and that costs more?

There

0:48:410:48:44

are fundamental misunderstandings

about how much people need to live

0:48:440:48:50

in retirement and the government is

trying to address this through

0:48:500:48:53

automatic enrolment, most people

with a job are in rolled into a

0:48:530:48:57

workplace pension, but that won't

fill the gap on its own. If you want

0:48:570:49:01

to look at how much people need for

retirement, most people want to

0:49:010:49:05

replicate the working life living

standards they have when they get to

0:49:050:49:08

retirement and to do that you

probably need 70% of what you had

0:49:080:49:12

during working life. Looking at the

state pension going forward, the new

0:49:120:49:17

state pension provides around 24% of

average earnings so if you want the

0:49:170:49:21

same living standards in working

life in retirement that you had in

0:49:210:49:25

working life, you might need another

50% of income you generate from your

0:49:250:49:29

private pension and that means

saving a lot of money for a long

0:49:290:49:33

time into a private pension.

And

people aren't putting that money

0:49:330:49:36

away, they think £100 a month will

buy them a comfortable retirement,

0:49:360:49:42

that won't happen?

Lots of this is

based on what they have seen their

0:49:420:49:47

parents do, we're coming from a

generation where people depended

0:49:470:49:51

solely on a state pension or an

employee at pension and we didn't

0:49:510:49:56

have a savings culture where people

had to make a decision about how

0:49:560:49:59

much to put away every month into a

private pensions team so we're

0:49:590:50:03

seeing a revolution into how people

save. The amount of money people get

0:50:030:50:07

from the state pension will be lower

in future than now so they're going

0:50:070:50:11

to need to save more with a private

pension.

Chandra, is there a danger

0:50:110:50:16

we look at the Baby Boomers and

think they are so well off, they

0:50:160:50:20

have had things so good for so long.

That's not the case but it's the

0:50:200:50:30

misconception, isn't it?

It is an

things happen in people's lives that

0:50:300:50:33

are very unexpected and people who

come here have lost a partner or

0:50:330:50:36

lost a home or lost a job and

actually it has put them into

0:50:360:50:40

difficulties they couldn't have

planned for and those people really

0:50:400:50:43

need support and assistance in order

to live a good older age period.

0:50:430:50:48

Daniela, a final thought on that

misconception about older age, that

0:50:480:50:52

actually it will cost people a lot

of money and it's not going to be

0:50:520:50:56

the same for everybody, depending on

people's life experience?

0:50:560:51:00

We need to remember older people are

just as diverse as people of working

0:51:000:51:04

age and there's been a lot of media

coverage of studies saying people

0:51:040:51:09

are getting richer as they get older

but what's happening is we are

0:51:090:51:13

looking at a cohort of people in

their 60s and early 70s who are

0:51:130:51:17

either still working or had a

partner still working, so they're

0:51:170:51:21

receiving income from earnings. But

if you look at people in their 80s

0:51:210:51:25

and 90s, you see they are poorer and

as people age their income

0:51:250:51:28

decreases. We can't just put them

away and say these people are well

0:51:280:51:33

off and off, we need you still pay

attention and make sure pensioners

0:51:330:51:36

don't fall into poverty.

Daniela,

Chandra, thanks for that. It's so

0:51:360:51:43

interesting, the misconception about

how much money we need to put away

0:51:430:51:47

to save for our old age. In the next

hour we will talk about older people

0:51:470:51:51

going back to work. We will look at

that and meet some people who are

0:51:510:51:55

doing just that. See you later.

Thanks, Ben, see you later on.

0:51:550:52:03

If you want to make a movie

about the man dubbed

0:52:030:52:06

The Greatest Showman

and the inventor of showbusiness,

0:52:060:52:08

only a star of many

talents will fit the bill.

0:52:080:52:11

With his background

in musicals and blockbuster

0:52:110:52:13

credentials Hugh Jackman,

is unsurprisingly, a good match

0:52:130:52:15

for the visionary circus master PT

0:52:150:52:16

Barnum who rose from nothing

to create a spectacle that became

0:52:160:52:19

a worldwide sensation.

0:52:190:52:20

I caught up with Hugh to talk

about everything from top hat

0:52:200:52:23

skills, to conquering nerves

and his Christmas plans.

0:52:230:52:26

I caught up with Hugh to talk

about everything from top hat

0:52:260:52:29

skills, to conquering nerves

and his Christmas plans.

0:52:290:52:31

I knew it.

There we go. As soon as

you had it in your hand, that's

0:52:310:52:35

easy, how do you do it so many

times?

This one I had to do, are we

0:52:350:52:40

widen of? That I would have done

6000 times in my life. This was me

0:52:400:52:44

on set all day. It looks easy but I

dropped about the first 300.

I'm

0:52:440:52:48

putting together a show. It's a

place where people can see things

0:52:480:52:51

they've never seen before. What did

you know about barn, the character?

0:52:510:52:55

I'd seen a musical, a Broadway

musical in the 70s, Michael Crocker

0:52:550:52:58

did famously for four years here so

I knew the story from that. I've

0:52:580:53:02

read so many books on him and he's

one of the most material interesting

0:53:020:53:07

self promoting characters there's

ever been and he is the true

0:53:070:53:09

definition of a disrupter, which we

use a lot these days to describe

0:53:090:53:14

Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Steve jobs.

0:53:140:53:17

Parts of what he was doing them, the

show he created, feel a bit

0:53:270:53:32

uncomfortable now, don't they?

It's

interesting, at the time he was

0:53:320:53:36

accused of exploiting people because

a lot of the people remember the

0:53:360:53:39

movie elephant man or they

understand there was this sort of

0:53:390:53:42

seedy side to show business, back

alleys where you would go and see a

0:53:420:53:47

bearded person or whatever, some

kind of deformity and people were

0:53:470:53:51

making money off that. He brought

them out into the open and

0:53:510:53:56

interestingly he inadvertently

created this family and he

0:53:560:53:59

inadvertently may the entire world

fall in love with these people. A

0:53:590:54:02

lot of these people had been hidden

in basements literally by their

0:54:020:54:06

families and they felt love and

acceptance for the first time and

0:54:060:54:09

they loved him for it.

Icon just wrong off and join the

0:54:090:54:13

circus?

Why not. You clearly have a

flair for show business.

For show

0:54:130:54:20

business? Of never heard of it.

I

think people think of you as a very

0:54:200:54:24

confident performer but as I

understand it you over the years,

0:54:240:54:28

your own things, self-doubts and

whatever.

I'm more afraid of the

0:54:280:54:32

stopping me living my life or

stopping me make choices. For

0:54:320:54:38

example, when I was asked to host

the Oscars I was actually in this

0:54:380:54:41

hotel when I got the call, it was

1am, and I just went, I make it from

0:54:410:54:48

Australia, and they said yes, of

course, it was Spielberg down the

0:54:480:54:52

line. When I hung up the phone ten

minutes later I said, what did I do?

0:54:520:54:57

You didn't have to say yes to that.

I do have doubts. It's been a good

0:54:570:55:01

motivator for me in my life. It's

frightening but it will be OK in the

0:55:010:55:06

end. I think that's got to do with a

couple of things, I think it's got a

0:55:060:55:11

lot to do with my relationship with

De. If you ever see me walk out onto

0:55:110:55:20

a stage you will see me put my hand

down.

That's your wife?

I will look

0:55:200:55:24

for her and it's a way of saying

whatever happens, success or

0:55:240:55:27

failure, we've got each other but it

sounds corny but for me that kind of

0:55:270:55:31

security has really helped me, that

kind of unconditional love has

0:55:310:55:34

really helped me.

Hugh Jackman's

Christmas.

In Australia this time.

0:55:340:55:38

It will be hot. You live on the

beach?

Definitely go on the beach

0:55:380:55:42

and we do the whole hot dinner

catastrophe, we do everything. I

0:55:420:55:46

have English parents so to me

Christmas has do have gravy, roast

0:55:460:55:51

potatoes, ham and turkey, Christmas

putting with the little 5 cents

0:55:510:55:55

piece is stuck in the middle, brandy

butter, custard, the whole thing,

0:55:550:56:00

sweating, the paper hats

disintegrating, bad jokes, the whole

0:56:000:56:03

thing.

Lovely! Charlie, thanks mate.

He called you mate. He's Australian,

0:56:030:56:10

isn't he!

0:56:100:56:15

Christmas in Australia. Hot meal,

even though it is hot outside, they

0:56:150:56:19

do the whole turkey thing. The Ashes

is on in Australia and Mike will

0:56:190:56:24

keep you up to date on that. Still

to come in this programme... Stormzy

0:56:240:56:40

is coming on to join us on the sofa.

He's won three Mobos, he's gained a

0:56:400:56:45

Brit award nomination, he beat Ed

Turin to be named the BBC music

0:56:450:56:49

artist of 2017 and he's had quite a

good year and we will talk to him

0:56:490:56:54

about it

0:56:541:00:12

in half an hour.

1:00:121:00:13

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

1:00:131:00:15

Now, though, it's back

to Charlie and naga.

1:00:151:00:18

Bye for now.

1:00:181:00:18

Hello, this is breakfast with

Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty. A

1:00:541:00:57

round of applause from EU leaders as

Theresa May tell them she can

1:00:571:01:01

deliver a smooth Brexit. The show of

support came at a dinner in Brussels

1:01:011:01:05

where the EU will today officially

moved Brexit talks to the next age.

1:01:051:01:11

Good morning.

1:01:181:01:19

It's Friday the 15th of December.

1:01:191:01:25

Also on the programme, a new study

finds one in six parents allow their

1:01:251:01:29

children to drink at the age of 14,

but doctors warn it puts their

1:01:291:01:34

health at risk. In sport, England

perk up in Perth, thanks to one of

1:01:341:01:39

their ashes new boys, Craig Overton,

who has taken the wickets of both

1:01:391:01:45

the Australian openers.

Good

morning. A record number of people

1:01:451:01:48

turned 70 this year, so what is life

like for the baby boomers in 2017? I

1:01:481:01:54

am eating patterned Oscar this

morning at a retirement village in

1:01:541:01:57

Surrey to find out. -- meeting Pat

and Oscar.

As he takes on the role

1:01:571:02:06

of the greatest showman, Hugh Jack

and tells me how he got into

1:02:061:02:09

character.

This was me on sat all

day. It looks easy, but I dropped

1:02:091:02:13

the first 300.

Matt has the weather,

enjoying a festival of light.

Good

1:02:131:02:19

morning. What better way to brighten

up these dark winter mornings then

1:02:191:02:28

here at Longleat at the festival of

light? Hundreds of lanterns, and if

1:02:281:02:32

you cannot guess the thing, I'm sure

you can, the magical storytelling.

1:02:321:02:37

The weather story for today and the

weekend is staying cold across the

1:02:371:02:41

country, but with more sunshine

around after an icy start. Changes

1:02:411:02:45

this weekend, it is set to get

milder. I had detailed forecast in

1:02:451:02:48

up.

1:02:481:02:53

First, our main story.

1:02:531:02:54

Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

1:02:541:02:57

will give the green light for talks

to move to the second stage.

1:02:571:03:01

Last night at a dinner

in Brussels, Theresa May insisted

1:03:011:03:03

she was on course for

what she termed a "smooth" Brexit.

1:03:031:03:06

So what does the next

stage look like?

1:03:061:03:09

Talks will now focus

on the transition deal

1:03:091:03:11

between the two sides,

as well as their future relationship

1:03:111:03:13

and trading arrangements.

1:03:131:03:14

Mrs May has said she wants

discussions on transition settled

1:03:141:03:17

by March 2018, that's a year before

Britain is due to leave the EU.

1:03:171:03:21

But with a Brexit Day vote

in Parliament next week

1:03:211:03:23

on whether to put an exact time

and date on that departure,

1:03:231:03:27

both sides will be aware

that the clock is ticking.

1:03:271:03:29

Our Brussels correspondent Adam

Fleming is in Brussels this morning.

1:03:291:03:32

How was Theresa May received by EU

leaders last night?

1:03:321:03:47

Either that reporters were not

allowed in last night, but rumours

1:03:471:03:50

came out. Paint us a picture.

I must

admit I was at the pub last night,

1:03:501:03:55

and everybody started getting text

messages saying there was a round of

1:03:551:03:59

applause in the European Council

chamber from all the other leaders

1:03:591:04:02

on Brexit, which just proves the

sense of relief that there is in

1:04:021:04:06

this place that the phase one of

Brexit talks about divorce related

1:04:061:04:10

issues, untangling the EU from the

UK, has made enough address that

1:04:101:04:17

leaders felt they could breathe a

sigh of relief. A bit of

1:04:171:04:21

self-congratulation, too. Apparently

the round of applause was started by

1:04:211:04:24

German Chancellor and will muck. --

Angela Merkel. Today is about

1:04:241:04:30

agreeing on the blueprint for the

shape of negotiations in phase two.

1:04:301:04:34

A 3-page document which will sketch

out how those negotiations unfold.

1:04:341:04:38

Three big things to take out of

that. Number one, the UK is reminded

1:04:381:04:43

that commitments they made must be

lived up to. No backtracking. The

1:04:431:04:47

first thing they will talk about is

the transition phase which will last

1:04:471:04:50

a couple of years after Brexit in

2019. Then they will talk about

1:04:501:04:54

trade and a future relationship of

insight security and defence. But

1:04:541:04:58

not until March 20 18. The big

question is, what do they have for

1:04:581:05:05

desert? A festival with a twist.

Donald Tusk's advisers can't tell me

1:05:051:05:09

what the twist actually was.

These

are the details we need, it helps us

1:05:091:05:13

with the picture we have to see.

I'm

fascinated now. Intrigued.

1:05:131:05:22

One in six parents in the UK

gives their children alcohol

1:05:221:05:25

by the age of 14,

according to new research.

1:05:251:05:27

That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

1:05:271:05:30

until they are at

least a year older.

1:05:301:05:32

Researchers from

University College London also found

1:05:321:05:34

white, well-educated parents

were most likely to have a relaxed

1:05:341:05:37

attitude to young people drinking.

1:05:371:05:38

Philippa Roxby reports.

1:05:381:05:39

This Christmastime many teenagers

will enjoy their first

1:05:391:05:41

tipple of alcohol.

1:05:411:05:42

But a new study suggests this

1:05:421:05:44

may not be a good idea,

because it's harmful to children

1:05:441:05:47

and their bodies

aren't ready for it.

1:05:471:05:57

The research team from

University College London

1:05:571:05:59

and Pennsylvania

1:05:591:06:00

State University found 17%

of parents have let their children

1:06:001:06:02

drink alcohol by the age of 14.

1:06:021:06:04

Well-educated parents

of white children

1:06:041:06:06

were more likely to allow

their adolescent children to drink

1:06:061:06:08

than unemployed and ethnic

minority parents.

1:06:081:06:10

Half of all 14-year-olds said

they had tried more than a few

1:06:101:06:13

sips of alcohol.

1:06:131:06:15

People at a young age tend

to think it is the right

1:06:151:06:19

thing to do, and obviously it is not

really the right thing to do.

1:06:191:06:28

It depends on the child really.

1:06:281:06:30

On the parents.

1:06:301:06:30

And how responsible

they are, really.

1:06:301:06:32

If they are encouraging it,

like it is a good thing,

1:06:321:06:35

then they might do

it on their own all

1:06:351:06:38

the time and think it is OK...

1:06:381:06:39

Obviously there is a limit.

1:06:391:06:46

The study also found

that light or moderate

1:06:461:06:48

drinking parents were just as likely

to let their children have alcohol

1:06:481:06:51

as heavy drinking parents.

1:06:511:06:56

Parents of socially

advantage children might

1:06:561:06:57

believe it's teaching them

responsible alcohol use

1:06:571:06:59

and inoculating them

against the future

1:06:591:07:01

dangers of alcohol, but we have no

evidence to support this view -

1:07:011:07:04

and the chief medical

officer recommends

1:07:041:07:06

an alcohol-free childhood,

so no drinking before the age of 15,

1:07:061:07:09

because it can be harmful

to their growth and development.

1:07:091:07:12

Alcohol charities said

parents needed more

1:07:121:07:14

guidance from schools

and doctors on how to talk

1:07:141:07:16

to their children about alcohol.

1:07:161:07:17

Their advice is to set the rules

for teenagers on alcohol

1:07:171:07:20

and to be open and honest

with them about its effects.

1:07:201:07:34

The Church of England has apologised

to the family of a bishop for

1:07:341:07:38

failings in the ways investigated

allegations of child abuse against

1:07:381:07:41

him almost 60 years after his death.

An independent review into the

1:07:411:07:45

investigation on the former Bishop

of Chichester, George Bell, is being

1:07:451:07:48

published this morning. He died in

1958.

1:07:481:07:51

The White House says Donald Trump

and the Russian president,

1:07:511:07:54

Vladimir Putin, have discussed

working together to resolve

1:07:541:07:56

the crisis over North Korea's

nuclear programme.

1:07:561:07:58

Meanwhile, the most senior UN

official to visit North Korea

1:07:581:08:01

for six years told the BBC,

Pyongyang should re-open

1:08:011:08:03

communication channels with

South Korea, which were suspended

1:08:031:08:06

in 2009.

1:08:061:08:10

Charges have been brought

against the leader of the far-right

1:08:101:08:18

group, Britain First

in connection with a rally held

1:08:181:08:20

in Belfast in August.

1:08:201:08:21

Paul Golding is accused

of using threatening,

1:08:211:08:23

insulting or abusive

words or behaviour.

1:08:231:08:25

His group's deputy leader,

Jayda Fransen, appeared in court

1:08:251:08:27

yesterday to face the same charge

in relation to the rally.

1:08:271:08:31

She was later arrested and charged

in connection with a separate

1:08:311:08:33

incident in Belfast on Wednesday.

1:08:331:08:35

Nine-million adults in the UK

are chronically lonely,

1:08:351:08:37

according to a commission set

up by the MP Jo Cox,

1:08:371:08:40

before her murder.

1:08:401:08:41

It says loneliness is as harmful

to health as smoking 15 cigarettes

1:08:411:08:44

a day, and calls for

a government-led national strategy

1:08:441:08:46

to address the problem.

1:08:461:08:47

Our North of England correspondent

Danny Savage reports.

1:08:471:08:50

You can't catch me.

1:08:501:08:51

In the months before

she was murdered, Jo Cox started

1:08:511:08:53

a campaign to tackle loneliness.

1:08:531:08:55

She said she didn't want to live

in a country where thousands

1:08:551:08:58

of people live lonely lives

forgotten by the rest of us.

1:08:581:09:01

The campaign carried on in her name

and has now concluded we'll have

1:09:011:09:05

to do our bit to combat loneliness.

1:09:051:09:07

Susan spent months feeling isolated

and desperate and things improved

1:09:071:09:09

hugely when the royal

voluntary service intervened.

1:09:091:09:11

I was really alone, I was depressed,

I tried to take my own life.

1:09:111:09:15

Really bad.

1:09:151:09:16

In a lot of pain.

1:09:161:09:17

If it wasn't for these people,

all these people that's helping me

1:09:171:09:20

now, I wouldn't be here.

1:09:201:09:22

And I appreciate everything that

people have done for me.

1:09:221:09:25

It's not always obvious to people

that they might be lonely or in need

1:09:251:09:28

of some companionship.

1:09:281:09:29

And what we offer isn't somebody

to come in and talk at people.

1:09:291:09:33

What we are doing is saying

to people, would you like to be part

1:09:331:09:37

of something where you meet

somebody, you get to know them,

1:09:371:09:40

they get to know you and you

create a friendship?

1:09:401:09:46

The Jo Cox Loneliness Commission has

concluded that government

1:09:461:09:49

and employers can do their bit

to deal with loneliness but that

1:09:491:09:52

individuals and communities

are just as important

1:09:521:09:54

in preventing isolation.

1:09:541:09:55

Danny Savage, BBC

News, West Yorkshire.

1:09:551:10:03

We are keeping you up to date with

what is happening in the Ashes.

It

1:10:031:10:09

is a very exciting period. The day

has been ebbing and flowing. Jonny

1:10:091:10:15

Bairstow made 119 for England,

helping them build a big score. Then

1:10:151:10:18

when he was out for 119 was a

batting collapse. Australia thought

1:10:181:10:22

England hadn't done that well but

403 isn't bad. Yes, but it could

1:10:221:10:28

have been better. Australia looking

comfortable at the crease until one

1:10:281:10:31

of the new boys, making only his

second appearance in a test match.

1:10:311:10:35

Craig Overton struck twice. He has

taken to big wickets of David Warner

1:10:351:10:43

and is Cameron Bancroft. Look how

annoyed the batsman is, because

1:10:431:10:47

Warner was surprised by how it

bounced up. Deflected to the

1:10:471:10:52

wicket-keeper and he was caught

behind. What a great moment for

1:10:521:10:55

Craig Overton. Remember, he was only

the second wicket-keeper. He can

1:10:551:11:03

bowl and bat, he is an all-rounder

from Somerset. Only 23 years of old.

1:11:031:11:07

Huge arms, that really helps. There

he is in full swing. England's need

1:11:071:11:14

more wickets. Australia, 82 for two.

The next half-hour will be crucial.

1:11:141:11:21

Just to be clear, we need a victory

or a draw?

Yes, England are 2-0

1:11:211:11:25

down.

1:11:251:11:30

Network Rail has released shocking

footage of drunk revellers falling

1:11:361:11:38

onto railway tracks in an effort

to warn people of the dangers

1:11:381:11:42

of overindulging during

the Christmas period.

1:11:421:11:43

The CCTV shows stumbling passengers

tumbling from platforms,

1:11:431:11:46

only surviving by the skin

of their teeth thanks to members

1:11:461:11:49

of the public.

1:11:491:11:50

Scenes like these are

on the rise, over 7,000

1:11:501:11:52

booze-related incidents

were recorded on or around Britain's

1:11:521:11:54

railways over the past year.

1:11:541:11:56

Allan Spence is head of public

and passenger safety at Network Rail

1:11:561:11:59

and joins now from

Leamington Spa station.

1:11:591:12:07

Thank you for speaking to us this

morning. Who is this campaign aimed

1:12:071:12:10

at? What you hope to achieve?

Travelling by train is absolutely

1:12:101:12:17

the safest way to get home after you

have been out for a Christmas party.

1:12:171:12:22

This is just make sure that people

do not let that last rink make a

1:12:221:12:27

decision for them. You have seen the

footage of people falling from

1:12:271:12:30

platforms. That, as well as falling

down escalators, or perhaps misusing

1:12:301:12:36

level crossings, that is what we are

really worried about at this time of

1:12:361:12:40

year. Make sure you have thought

about how you will get home safely

1:12:401:12:44

and keep a clear. Once you get on

the train we can look after you. It

1:12:441:12:48

is your accountability to make sure

you do that right as to get onto the

1:12:481:12:53

train.

You haven't pulled any

punches with this campaign, we will

1:12:531:12:56

show some of the images you have

released. They really are shocking.

1:12:561:12:59

Very near tragic. You are obviously

very clear that this is a dangerous

1:12:591:13:05

time of year, if you are drinking

too much and not being sensible.

1:13:051:13:11

Well, we always see an increase in

the alcohol-related incidents over

1:13:111:13:14

this time of year. That is why we

are just reaching out to people to

1:13:141:13:19

say, once you get on the train, that

is the place to be, we can look

1:13:191:13:24

after you. On the way they win EU to

make sure how you have thought about

1:13:241:13:29

how you will get home and a clear

head. It is a really simple, but we

1:13:291:13:33

don't want people falling from

platform edges, tumbling down

1:13:331:13:37

escalators, or getting hit by a

train on a level crossing. Keep a

1:13:371:13:42

clear head and we will get you home

safely.

What is the most common

1:13:421:13:46

mistake revellers make this remark

what is the most common mistake you

1:13:461:13:50

see?

Most common is actually people

on escalators in our stations.

1:13:501:13:56

Moving staircases, when you have had

a few to many, that can be really

1:13:561:14:00

quite distracting. We do see quite a

lot of people tumbling on

1:14:001:14:05

escalators. That is why we just need

people to be thinking about their

1:14:051:14:09

way home.

Level crossings, that is

another place where incidents occur?

1:14:091:14:12

Indeed. We have seen some tragedies,

just a couple of years ago we had a

1:14:121:14:19

boy killed on a level crossing down

in sure. -- Shoreham. We now work

1:14:191:14:26

with his mother who is keen to make

sure other people do not ignore the

1:14:261:14:30

lights and barriers and sirens, and

think they are in the ball just

1:14:301:14:34

because they have had a drink. We

just want to do the right thing. The

1:14:341:14:38

test is, if you wouldn't do it

tomorrow morning when you are sober,

1:14:381:14:42

do not do it tonight.

Allen, thank

you to speaking to us.

1:14:421:14:49

It's that time of year,

some of our outside broadcasts

1:14:581:15:01

in winter aren't

favoured by being dark.

1:15:011:15:02

We are blessed this morning by the

sites at Longleat, which is lit up

1:15:021:15:06

rather beautifully. Matt is there

with the weather for us.

Good

1:15:061:15:14

morning from Longleat, doesn't it

look stunning? Hundreds of lanterns

1:15:141:15:19

here at the moment. It's all part of

their festival of light, which runs

1:15:191:15:23

until the seventh of January,

perfect for brightening up a winter

1:15:231:15:27

morning. The lanterns themselves

have taken about a year to design

1:15:271:15:32

and build, they have been made in

China, involving around 70 tons of

1:15:321:15:37

iron and around 30,000 metres of

fabric. This one of course is based

1:15:371:15:45

on the story of Cinderella. All the

lanterns here are based around the

1:15:451:15:49

magic of storytelling.

1:15:491:15:50

Let's go to the storytelling of the

weather for this morning and for the

1:15:511:15:55

rest of the weekend. Signs of change

afoot. Let's look at the forecast

1:15:551:15:59

this morning because it's a

particularly chilly start again in

1:15:591:16:04

many areas of the UK. An icy start

following overnight showers. Showers

1:16:041:16:11

first thing in southern counties and

then clearing from the south coast,

1:16:111:16:14

but a few lingering in the

south-east but once you go it turns

1:16:141:16:18

dry for a time but in eastern areas

further showers through the day and

1:16:181:16:21

a mixture of rain, sleet and snow

and a raw northerly wind back with

1:16:211:16:26

us but further west, drier, western

England and Scotland, sunshine

1:16:261:16:30

around. Some freezing fog patches

could take a while to clear and a

1:16:301:16:34

few wintry showers in the north of

Scotland and a few in Northern

1:16:341:16:38

Ireland but not as many as

yesterday. South-west Wales and

1:16:381:16:41

Cornwall will see showers at times,

those heavy with hail, thunder,

1:16:411:16:46

sleet and hill snow, much of Wales

and south-west England will be drier

1:16:461:16:50

and brighter than yesterday and

actually not quite as windy as it

1:16:501:16:54

was. Still a breeze blowing and that

breeze is adding to the chill coming

1:16:541:16:58

from a northerly direction and

because the wind has changed

1:16:581:17:02

direction, eastern areas prone to

showers but in the west, only a

1:17:021:17:06

couple, most will be dry and sunny

but even in the sunshine

1:17:061:17:09

temperatures down on yesterday,

around 3-7, at the very best, the

1:17:091:17:14

wind making it feel colder than

that. The breeze continues into the

1:17:141:17:18

first part of the night and

overnight we will continue with a

1:17:181:17:21

few showers around coastal districts

but inland for many it is lengthy

1:17:211:17:25

clear skies, the wind slowly turning

a touch lighter into the morning and

1:17:251:17:29

that means a widespread sharp frost

will form, temperatures below

1:17:291:17:32

freezing in most areas with the risk

of ice and a few freezing fog

1:17:321:17:37

patches into the start of Saturday.

A cold start to the weekend, lovely

1:17:371:17:41

crisp and bright one, perfect winter

morning for many, but there will be

1:17:411:17:46

changes through the day. Eastern

areas tomorrow will be brighter, no

1:17:461:17:49

showers around in the afternoon, but

in the west, cloud will increase and

1:17:491:17:53

in parts of Wales, the Midlands,

south-west England, the greatest

1:17:531:17:57

chance of a few showers. Most will

be dry and in the south-west

1:17:571:18:02

temperatures will be up but for

most, cold. Into Sunday,

1:18:021:18:06

south-westerly winds kicked in,

milder air pushes too many areas,

1:18:061:18:11

taking all day to reach eastern

parts but you will notice from the

1:18:111:18:14

chart, a of change. After Saturday's

sunshine comes on Sunday's cloud,

1:18:141:18:21

wind and rain. The rain heavy at

times, particularly in the west, and

1:18:211:18:26

the winds will be strong and gusty

as well. That's your weather.

1:18:261:18:30

Let me leave you with stunning

footage at the festival. We will

1:18:311:18:35

start with a look at the fairytale

castle in amongst some of their

1:18:351:18:40

amazing story telling lanterns that

we have at Longleat this morning.

1:18:401:18:45

More in amongst the lanterns in the

next half an hour but now, in the

1:18:451:18:49

time being, back to nag and Charlie.

A beacon of light in a festival of

1:18:491:18:54

light. Thanks, Matt!

1:18:541:18:58

More people than every before

will have turned 70 in 2017.

1:18:581:19:04

That's according to the Office

of National Statistics.

1:19:041:19:09

There are nearly 800,000 baby

boomers celebrating the milestone.

1:19:091:19:12

So what's it like for

the generation who have

1:19:121:19:14

been through some of the world's

biggest cultural and social changes?

1:19:141:19:17

Breakfast's John Maguire

is in Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.

1:19:171:19:20

You have made a friend, John?

You

can possibly tell there's an

1:19:201:19:28

undercurrent of laughter this

morning because everyone is laughing

1:19:281:19:32

at Miro the dog, who is upstaging me

this morning. We are used to

1:19:321:19:40

technology playing a big role in our

lives, the idea is he is a virtual

1:19:401:19:45

pet, providing comfort, and relay

vital information back to a GP

1:19:451:19:49

clinic. On going to pop him into the

corner. We are in Whiteley Village,

1:19:491:19:56

with some people turning 70 this

year, and some residents, it's been

1:19:561:20:00

here for 100 years, celebrating its

centenary this year, built by a

1:20:001:20:06

Victorian philanthropist. We will

hear about life in the village later

1:20:061:20:10

on but first let's hear from these

folks and some of their friends

1:20:101:20:16

about how life these days begins at

70.

1:20:161:20:19

We've gathered a group of

septuagenarians from across the UK

1:20:191:20:21

to deliberate, cogitate

and celebrate life at 70.

1:20:211:20:26

Here at the Hawth Theatre

in Crawley, a town also born

1:20:261:20:32

in 1947, it's panto season

and behind us is the set for Snow

1:20:321:20:43

White and the Seven Dwarfs.

1:20:431:20:44

So the first question

is about going off to work.

1:20:441:20:47

How many of you here

are still working?

1:20:471:20:49

Workers over there please.

1:20:491:20:50

People either retired or not working

over on that side please.

1:20:501:20:53

In our group, 28% still work.

1:20:531:20:55

This isn't a scientific survey,

of course, but in 2005 the national

1:20:551:20:59

figure was less than 5%.

1:20:591:21:00

So you've gone back to work?

1:21:001:21:02

Yes, because I wanted

to keep my brain going and I wanted

1:21:021:21:05

to give back actually all that

I have learnt in 70 years.

1:21:051:21:09

Going well?

Love it, love it.

1:21:091:21:10

I'm now do things I want to do

rather than things I have to do.

1:21:101:21:15

I work in the film industry.

1:21:151:21:20

Look-a-like.

1:21:201:21:21

A lot of people think I looked

like Robert De Niro.

1:21:211:21:24

I was going to say Robert De Niro.

1:21:241:21:27

You talkin' to me?

1:21:271:21:28

How many of you are active

at least once a week,

1:21:281:21:32

we're talking about a brisk walk,

maybe even jogging.

1:21:321:21:35

78% say they exercise.

1:21:351:21:36

I'm still competing in triathlons.

1:21:361:21:37

Wow!

1:21:371:21:47

I do aqua aerobics, three sessions.

1:21:471:21:49

Yoga.

1:21:491:21:50

Pilates, tai chi and tennis.

1:21:501:21:52

No, I have never been

interested in sport.

1:21:521:22:00

I rely on genetics,

all my family died old,

1:22:001:22:02

didn't like sport,

so I'm depending on that.

1:22:021:22:04

How many of you feel

financially stable?

1:22:041:22:07

88% were happy with their finances,

better of than younger generations.

1:22:071:22:14

My husband and I when we retired

sold our house, sold our home.

1:22:141:22:18

At the height of the property boom

and invested the money.

1:22:181:22:21

Our generation, people that did

own property have done well

1:22:211:22:25

on it

1:22:251:22:26

with house prices,

unlike the younger generation,

1:22:261:22:28

who are now struggling.

1:22:281:22:29

I have to watch my pennies and be

careful what I do and can't go

1:22:291:22:33

on expensive holidays.

1:22:331:22:38

There's no way I would think

we were poor or struggling

1:22:381:22:45

any

way,

1:22:451:22:46

but neither are we rich.

1:22:461:22:48

And still working, still

touring at 70 is Kiki Dee.

1:22:481:22:51

I think we're all trucking on really

for various reasons,

1:22:511:22:54

to make a living, working people,

to keep yourself active in the world

1:22:541:22:57

if you like, so I think it's a great

time to be 70 actually.

1:22:571:23:01

Some fascinating views,

stories and a real insight I think

1:23:011:23:04

into what it feels like to be 70

years old in this day and age

1:23:041:23:08

but there's one thing I'd definitely

learned and that is 70

1:23:081:23:11

is the new...

1:23:111:23:12

ALL: 40!

1:23:121:23:24

Let's meet Susan and Robert Ashton,

residents here for three years. 70

1:23:241:23:28

was a couple of years ago for you

folks. Tell us about life here, why

1:23:281:23:33

did you first come here?

Security. I

think everybody says the same thing.

1:23:331:23:42

The difference here is your

surrounded by people, and it makes

1:23:421:23:47

it easier to be old to be quite

frank.

Very well put. There are 500

1:23:471:23:57

properties here, certainly people

living here, Susan, I guess it's the

1:23:571:24:02

sort of place where you can be busy

all quiet. What is it like every day

1:24:021:24:08

here?

Absolutely. A day of our lives

is getting up. We go for a walk, we

1:24:081:24:17

go into town, do our shopping. We

can catch any bus and we can go into

1:24:171:24:23

Kingston and surrounding areas.

It's

the community that's important, is

1:24:231:24:28

that right?

Yes, it's the community

and the community's very important

1:24:281:24:33

and all very different people, but

all sort of of a similar

1:24:331:24:39

inclination. We're getting to be

really quite happy here.

Glad to

1:24:391:24:47

hear that. Nice to meet you this

morning.

1:24:471:24:50

Thanks very much. Let's speak to

Emma from SAGA magazine. We've been

1:24:501:24:56

talking about people in their 70s,

all of the people have vibrant, fit

1:24:561:25:03

and healthy lives, but it isn't like

that for everyone?

It isn't. The two

1:25:031:25:09

great enemies of a happy old age, or

later age, are ill health and

1:25:091:25:13

loneliness. They really are the

great bugbears. In one way

1:25:131:25:21

encouraging people to live

independently and to live at home is

1:25:211:25:24

a double-edged sword because it's

fantastic, so much better for people

1:25:241:25:30

not to be institutionalised, but at

the same time it can make some

1:25:301:25:34

people explored merrily lonely. They

don't see... The only person they

1:25:341:25:40

talk to is at the checkout at Tesco

or something. I think loneliness has

1:25:401:25:46

a lot to answer for.

OK, all right, thank you very much

1:25:461:25:50

indeed and we'll talk to you later.

We had a virtual dog, Miro, earlier,

1:25:501:25:56

this is Oscar, a real dog, and Pat

is the busiest woman in the village

1:25:561:26:01

I'm led to believe so we'll have a

nice chat to you later in the

1:26:011:26:05

programme. Give us a quick idea of

all the things you do?

1:26:051:26:08

I'm very lucky to be here. I have an

allotment, I do live in dancing.

Not

1:26:081:26:17

at the same time?

Not at the same

time! -- I do line dancing.

Thank

1:26:171:26:26

you, Pat. A little snippet of Pat's

busy life here. More from us at

1:26:261:26:33

Whiteley. We will talk to you later

in the programme.

1:26:331:26:38

Is Oscar happy, John? He looks a

little bit down?

Is he happy, Pat?

1:26:381:26:44

He's very happy, he's looking

forward to going on the rest of this

1:26:441:26:49

work.

We have curtailed the rest of

this walk?

There's your answer.

1:26:491:26:53

That's what it is. -- this walk.

1:26:531:26:58

You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

1:26:581:27:00

Still to come this morning.

1:27:001:27:07

It took Hugh Jackman

seven-and-a-half years

1:27:071:27:09

to get The Greatest Showman made.

1:27:091:27:11

Now he's been nominated

for a Golden Globe for his

1:27:111:27:13

performance before the film

even opens in cinemas.

1:27:131:27:16

I caught up with him in London.

1:27:161:27:18

Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are.

1:27:181:27:21

in half an hour.

1:30:401:30:41

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

1:30:411:30:43

Now, though, it's back

to Charlie and naga.

1:30:431:30:46

Bye for now.

1:30:461:30:46

Hello this is Breakfast

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

1:30:511:30:53

Munchetty.

1:30:531:30:54

Here's a summary of this morning's

main stories from BBC News.

1:30:541:30:57

Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

1:30:571:31:00

are expected to give the green

light for talks to move

1:31:001:31:03

to the second stage.

1:31:031:31:04

At a dinner in Brussels last night,

Theresa May was applauded

1:31:041:31:07

by her fellow leaders

after stressing her desire

1:31:071:31:09

for a "smooth" departure.

1:31:091:31:11

Talks will now focus

on the transition deal

1:31:111:31:13

between the two sides

as well as the UK's relationship

1:31:131:31:15

and trading arrangements

with the European Union.

1:31:151:31:17

One in six parents in the UK

gives their children alcohol

1:31:171:31:20

by the age of 14,

according to new research.

1:31:201:31:23

That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

1:31:231:31:26

until they are at

least a year older.

1:31:261:31:28

Researchers from University College

London also found white,

1:31:281:31:32

well-educated parents were most

likely to have a relaxed attitude

1:31:321:31:34

to young people drinking.

The Church of England has apologised

1:31:341:31:37

to the family of a bishop

for failings in the way it

1:31:371:31:40

investigated allegations of child

abuse against him almost 60 years

1:31:401:31:43

after his death.

1:31:431:31:44

An independent review

of the investigation into the former

1:31:441:31:47

Bishop of Chichester, George Bell,

is being published this morning.

1:31:471:31:49

He died in 1958.

1:31:491:32:04

9 million adults in the UK

are chronically lonely,

1:32:041:32:07

according to a commission set

up by the MP Jo Cox,

1:32:071:32:10

before her murder.

1:32:101:32:11

It says loneliness is as harmful

to health as smoking 15 cigarettes

1:32:111:32:14

a day, and calls for a national

strategy to address the problem.

1:32:141:32:17

The government said it welcomed

the report and would set out plans

1:32:171:32:21

to tackle the issue

in the new year.

1:32:211:32:25

Britain's most senior military

officer has warned of a new threat

1:32:251:32:28

posed by Russia to communications

cables that run under the sea.

1:32:281:32:31

The head of the Defence Staff,

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stuart Peach,

1:32:311:32:34

said Britain and NATO must avoid

the risk of a potentially

1:32:341:32:37

"catastrophic" effect on the economy

if the cables were cut.

1:32:371:32:43

What about this for a giant

seasonal greeting?

1:32:431:32:46

A pilot traced an outline

of an enormous Christmas tree

1:32:461:32:49

during a test flight

of an Airbus A380.

1:32:491:32:51

The tree, complete with baubles,

stretched for hundreds of kilometres

1:32:511:32:54

across Germany, from Hamburg

in the north to Stuttgart

1:32:541:32:56

in the south.

1:32:561:32:57

Coming up on the programme.

1:32:571:33:11

Matt will have the weather.

1:33:111:33:23

App you need a bit more detail, what

is the journey, how long does it

1:33:231:33:28

take?

Who benefits from that?

We

benefit.

Aliens, if there are any up

1:33:281:33:34

there...

It was a flight over Earth.

Yes, but...

UR overthinking it. It

1:33:341:33:41

is just what happened.

Just a happy

moment.

It was very pretty.

Any

1:33:411:33:46

happy moments in the cricket?

Happy

for England. A crucial test, two

1:33:461:33:52

more to go after this one and

England are 2-0 down. Australia are

1:33:521:34:00

currently 88-2, 315 runs behind

England's first-innings total of

1:34:001:34:05

403. So just about advantage

England, but it is all about and

1:34:051:34:12

accession. Right now they are

drawing breath over the next tee

1:34:121:34:15

Eats and hopefully Andy Swiss, who

is watching in Perth, will have time

1:34:151:34:18

break up of tea and 80 moments, but

only after we hear from him. Which

1:34:181:34:23

is idea think will be the most

confident after tea?

Well, it is

1:34:231:34:28

very finely poised, I would say.

England came back into it after the

1:34:281:34:32

afternoon session. They had a

terrible morning session. Such a

1:34:321:34:35

batting hopes, David Milan and Jonny

Bairstow going so nicely yesterday.

1:34:351:34:41

They picked up where they left off

at first. Bairstow reached his

1:34:411:34:46

century, a superb innings from Jonny

Bairstow. A slightly bizarre

1:34:461:34:52

celebration. He head-butted his

helmet in reference to an incident

1:34:521:34:55

he was involved in in Perth last

month, which you might remember. His

1:34:551:34:59

teammates enjoy that. England were

cruising, then they collapse. --

1:34:591:35:05

collapsed. Their last six wickets

went in just 48 minutes, all out war

1:35:051:35:11

403. Craig Overton did the damage,

removing David Warner, who was

1:35:111:35:18

caught a high-end 422. And then

Cameron Bancroft, who was initially

1:35:181:35:22

given not out. The video umpire

overturned at the initial decision.

1:35:221:35:27

He was given out lbw for 35.

Australia 88 for two at T. The key

1:35:271:35:39

man is Australian captain Steve

Smith, who is still in there. The

1:35:391:35:43

world's number one batsman, their

best player, their star player,

1:35:431:35:47

really, as far as the Australian are

concerned. If England get him out

1:35:471:35:51

early they have a real chance of

getting a first-innings lead.

1:35:511:35:54

Indeed. You can't see, because it is

in the stadium behind you, but they

1:35:541:35:59

already came out after tea, they

must have all that is down, and best

1:35:591:36:04

amateurs. This evening, after tea,

what could it have such a major

1:36:041:36:09

influence on whether Australia

eventually reclaim the Ashes?

I

1:36:091:36:14

think it will be pivotal. So far the

day has been one of fluctuating

1:36:141:36:18

fortunes. England will be so

disappointed. At one stage they were

1:36:181:36:23

688-4. It would have in hoping to

get 500 plus. To only get 400 would

1:36:231:36:28

be disappointing for them. They have

a gun -- they are patient. England's

1:36:281:36:34

bowlers are not as quick as the

Australian bowlers, they do not have

1:36:341:36:38

that raw pace. At the beach has been

doing some fun evenings. Sometimes

1:36:381:36:44

the ball is skidding, sometimes it

is bouncing up. Steve Smith to one

1:36:441:36:49

on his helmet. England will be

confident they can get into late

1:36:491:36:53

match-winning position and

potentially get back to this Ashes

1:36:531:36:56

series.

It promises to be dramatic.

You can follow the action on Radio 5

1:36:561:37:04

live sports extra and there is text

commentary on BBC sport website.

1:37:041:37:09

Back home, no nonleague sides in the

third round of the FA Cup, after the

1:37:091:37:14

last of them, Hereford, lost 2-0 to

Fleetwood last night.

1:37:141:37:18

Cian Bolger scoring both goals.

1:37:181:37:20

Fleetwood will play Leicester

in the next round, so we'll see

1:37:201:37:22

Jamie Vardy returning

to his old club.

1:37:221:37:25

Hayley Turner, the most successful

female jockey in British flat

1:37:251:37:30

racing, has been banned

from riding for three months

1:37:301:37:33

for breaching betting rules.

1:37:331:37:34

She staked 164 bets over

the space of a year and half,

1:37:341:37:37

which earned her a profit of £160.

1:37:371:37:39

Turner retired in 2015

but kept her jockey's licence,

1:37:391:37:42

so the bets technically

placed her in breach of the rules.

1:37:421:37:45

I accept that there has to be some

sort of punishment, definitely.

1:37:451:37:48

Because I was in the

wrong, absolutely.

1:37:481:37:50

Three months is quite harsh, though.

1:37:501:37:51

But that's their decision

and there's nothing I can

1:37:511:37:54

do about it.

1:37:541:37:57

Here was a spectacular

performance from Laura Renwick

1:37:571:38:00

at the Olympia Horse Show in London,

who, rode Top Dollar to victory

1:38:001:38:03

in the Puissance, clearing 2 metres

20, which no-one else had managed.

1:38:031:38:06

He's a young horse, too,

only eight years old,

1:38:061:38:09

so all the more impressive.

1:38:091:38:16

The PDC World Darts Championship got

under way at London's Alexandra

1:38:161:38:19

Palace last night, with defending

champion Michael van Gerwen

1:38:191:38:19

Formula 1's new owners are

considering scrapping the grid

1:38:241:38:28

girls. They are female models used

to hold up things on track. As

1:38:281:38:33

social attitudes change, some races

have experimented, using children or

1:38:331:38:37

male models as mascots.

1:38:371:38:38

The PDC World Darts Championship got

under way at London's Alexandra

1:38:381:38:41

Palace last night, with defending

champion Michael van Gerwen

1:38:411:38:43

on top form.

1:38:431:38:44

'Mighty Mike' took just over half

an hour to beat fellow

1:38:441:38:47

Dutchman Christian Kist

by three sets to one.

1:38:471:38:49

Phil 'The Power' Taylor will be

doing his best to beat him

1:38:491:38:52

to the title, he begins what will be

the last World Championship

1:38:521:38:56

of his career tonight.

1:38:561:38:59

I'm really looking forward to it

and I'm looking forward

1:38:591:39:02

to finishing now.

1:39:021:39:03

It's the right time for me.

1:39:031:39:05

Ronnie O'Sullivan found

a novel way to recharge

1:39:111:39:13

at the Scottish Open

snooker yesterday.

1:39:131:39:14

He took power naps during his match

against China's Hang Li.

1:39:141:39:17

He said he was "totally out

for the count" at times.

1:39:171:39:20

It did the trick -

he won that match and another

1:39:201:39:23

in the evening to reach

the quarter-finals.

1:39:231:39:25

He'll play John Higgins tonight.

1:39:251:39:32

Nothing compares what is facing the

sailors in the Volvo Ocean race.

1:39:321:39:36

This is one of the yacht in the

Southern Ocean. Big waves crashing

1:39:361:39:40

over the boat, sending the skipper

flying across the deck. The crews

1:39:401:39:44

are coping with severe storms on the

way from Cape Town to Melbourne.

1:39:441:39:48

They are all strapped... No, they

are not.

That's right. You have to

1:39:481:39:52

find something to hold onto. I think

they are experienced at that.

1:39:521:39:56

Obviously it is still dangerous.

You

have to be able to move around, do

1:39:561:40:00

need to be nimble.

Fabulous

pictures.

There you go! You can

1:40:001:40:05

almost feel that water coming over

us, from miles away.

We have gained

1:40:051:40:08

something.

A little trophy, one of

the most famous trophies and sport,

1:40:081:40:14

head of the BBC's Sports Personality

of the Year trophy. That is being

1:40:141:40:19

handed out on Sunday night. The

overseas Sports Personality of the

1:40:191:40:23

Year has been announced, Roger

Federer, winning his eight Wimbledon

1:40:231:40:26

title this year. He is 35. He has

defied the odds and previous

1:40:261:40:31

injuries to win Wimbledon and the

Australian Open in 2017 to take his

1:40:311:40:35

Grand Slam tally to 19. This is a

record four times Federer has won

1:40:351:40:39

the award. As for who will have

their name etched into the little

1:40:391:40:44

remaining space that there is, it

has been Andy Murray for three of

1:40:441:40:48

the last four years but he isn't in

contention this year. Our four

1:40:481:40:51

contenders, the best thing to do is

to go to the BBC sport website and

1:40:511:40:55

look at them all. I will protect

this. It is precious. Andy Murray

1:40:551:40:59

said it is one of the most

prestigious trophies for any athlete

1:40:591:41:02

to win. There are four tiers and it

is silverplated. I am holding on to

1:41:021:41:10

a tightly. It is precious.

And it

has been damaged before.

It was

1:41:101:41:14

dropped on a certain BBC programme

the other day.

I was trying to think

1:41:141:41:18

of a time, what you're saying

before, two of the characters...

1:41:181:41:21

Ronnie O'Sullivan, who was asleep

and Roger Federer. People who are

1:41:211:41:25

now comfortable in their own skin,

you know?

Yes, they relax.

I was

1:41:251:41:30

trying to make the connection to

huge in. We spoke to him about his

1:41:301:41:34

new film. When you meet him, he

seems very covetable in his own

1:41:341:41:37

skin.

It comes with experience, but

also with immense talent. I cannot

1:41:371:41:42

imagine Roger Federer ever getting

worked up or stressed, the way he

1:41:421:41:46

glides across the court.

You say

that, but Hugh Jackman did say to

1:41:461:41:51

you that he still gets nervous.

Thank you, Mike.

I have to take

1:41:511:41:54

this, it is getting heavy. Lots of

things to get past.

Hugh Jackman

1:41:541:41:59

talks about nerves and other things.

SHATTERING NOISE.

That was Mike.

He

1:41:591:42:08

shouldn't do that. He faked that,

but it is the kind of thing that can

1:42:081:42:14

go wrong.

He didn't fake it.

Back to

Hugh Jackman. He has this film out,

1:42:141:42:22

the Greatest Sherman, PT Barnum, the

great circus man. We talk about his

1:42:221:42:28

nerves, it is nervous, despite the

success he still gets nervous.

1:42:281:42:33

I knew it.

1:42:331:42:34

There we go.

1:42:341:42:35

As soon as you had

that in your hand...

1:42:351:42:37

How do you do that that easily,

you've done it many, many times?

1:42:371:42:41

This particular one

which I had to do...

1:42:411:42:43

Are we wide enough?

1:42:431:42:44

..I would have done

6,000 times in my life.

1:42:441:42:46

This was me on set all day.

1:42:461:42:48

It looks easy but I dropped

about the first 300.

1:42:481:42:51

I'm putting together a show.

1:42:511:42:52

It's a place where people

can see things they've

1:42:521:42:56

never seen before.

1:42:561:43:00

OK...

1:43:001:43:00

What did you know about

Barnum, the character?

1:43:001:43:02

I'd seen the musical,

there's a Broadway musical

1:43:021:43:05

in the '70s that Cy Coleman

wrote the music for,

1:43:051:43:07

Michael Crawford did very famously

for four years here,

1:43:071:43:10

so I knew the story from that.

1:43:101:43:12

I've now read 37 books on him,

and he's one of the most mecurial,

1:43:121:43:15

interesting, self-promoting

characters there's ever been

1:43:151:43:17

and he is the true definition

of a disrupter, which we use a lot

1:43:171:43:21

these days to describe Elon Musk,

Bill Gates, Steve jobs.

1:43:211:43:24

Parts of what he was doing then,

the show that he created,

1:43:241:43:27

feel a bit uncomfortable

now, don't they?

1:43:271:43:29

It's interesting, at the time

he was accused of exploiting people

1:43:291:43:33

because a lot of people

will remember the movie Elephant Man

1:43:331:43:36

or they understand there was this

sort of seedy side to show business,

1:43:361:43:39

back alley where you would go

and see a bearded person

1:43:391:43:42

or whatever, some kind of deformity

and people were making

1:43:421:43:45

money off that.

1:43:451:43:46

He brought them out into the open

and interestingly he inadvertently

1:43:461:43:49

created this family,

and he inadvertently may the entire

1:43:491:43:51

world fall in love

with these people.

1:43:511:43:53

A lot of these people had been

hidden in basements literally

1:43:531:43:56

by their families and they felt love

and acceptance for the first time

1:43:561:44:00

and they loved him for it.

1:44:001:44:01

I can't just run off

and join the circus?

1:44:011:44:04

Why not?

1:44:041:44:04

You clearly have a flair

for show business.

1:44:041:44:05

A lot of these people had been

hidden in basements literally

1:44:111:44:14

by their families and they felt love

and acceptance for the first time

1:44:141:44:18

and they loved him for it.

1:44:181:44:20

I can't just run off

and join the circus?

1:44:211:44:24

Why not?

1:44:241:44:24

You clearly have a flair

for show business.

1:44:241:44:27

For show business?

Mm-hmm.

1:44:271:44:30

I've never heard of it.

1:44:301:44:32

That's 'cause I just invented it.

1:44:321:44:33

I think people think

of you as a very confident

1:44:331:44:41

performer, but as I understand it

you, over the years,

1:44:411:44:44

have had your own things,

self-doubts and whatever about...

1:44:441:44:46

For sure.

1:44:461:44:47

I'm more afraid of fear

stopping me living my life

1:44:471:44:49

or stopping me make choices.

1:44:491:44:51

For example, when I was asked

to host the Oscars I was actually

1:44:511:44:54

in this very hotel when I got

the call, it was 1am,

1:44:541:44:58

and I just went, "I'm

a kid from Australia,"

1:44:581:45:00

it was Spielberg on the line,

1:45:001:45:02

and I was, like, "Yes, of course."

1:45:021:45:03

When I hung up the phone,

the next ten minutes later I was,

1:45:031:45:07

like, "What did I do?

1:45:071:45:08

You didn't have to say yes to that."

1:45:081:45:11

I do have doubts.

1:45:111:45:18

It's been a good motivator

for me in my life.

1:45:181:45:20

It's frightening but

it'll be OK in the end.

1:45:201:45:23

I think that's got to do

with a couple of things,

1:45:231:45:26

I think it's got a lot to do

with my relationship with Deb.

1:45:261:45:29

If you ever see me walk out

onto a stage you will see me

1:45:291:45:33

put my hand down and I will look

for her in the audience.

1:45:331:45:36

That's your wife?

1:45:361:45:37

I will look for her and it's a way

of saying whatever happens,

1:45:371:45:41

success or failure, we've got each

other but it sounds corny but for me

1:45:411:45:45

that kind of security has really,

really helped me, that kind

1:45:451:45:48

of unconditional love

has really helped me.

1:45:481:45:49

Hugh Jackman's Christmas.

1:45:491:45:50

I will be in Australia this time.

1:45:501:45:52

It will be hot.

1:45:521:45:53

You'll be on the beach?

1:45:531:45:55

I live on the beach.

1:45:551:45:56

Definitely go on the beach and we do

the whole hot dinner catastrophe,

1:45:561:46:00

we do everything.

1:46:001:46:00

I have English parents so to me

Christmas has do have gravy,

1:46:001:46:04

roast potatoes, ham and turkey,

Christmas putting with the little 5

1:46:041:46:07

cent pieces stuck in the middle,

brandy butter, custard,

1:46:071:46:09

the whole thing, sweating,

the paper hats disintegrating,

1:46:091:46:11

bad jokes, the whole thing.

1:46:111:46:13

Lovely!

1:46:131:46:13

Thank you.

1:46:131:46:14

Charlie, thanks mate.

1:46:141:46:22

Christmas in Australia, there you

go.

What a charming man.

He has that

1:46:221:46:28

reputation, you can see he is like

that.

I bet you could have chatted

1:46:281:46:32

to him for ages.

It has that

feeling.

Speaking of charming man,

1:46:321:46:36

Matt has the weather for us. He is

surrounded by lights. This is

1:46:361:46:44

Longleat, some remarkable

installations.

1:46:441:46:50

They are mockable, aren't they, the

festival of light, running until the

1:46:581:47:03

seventh of January -- they are

remarkable. 50,000 hours it's taken

1:47:031:47:07

to build all of these, ship them

across and put them in place and

1:47:071:47:12

behind me is a clue as to what the

theme is this time. The magic of

1:47:121:47:17

storytelling. Here's Little Read

Riding Herd and the Eagles Bad Wolf

1:47:171:47:26

the galleon from the Little Mermaid.

-- Little Red Riding Hood and the

1:47:261:47:34

big bad Wolf. Kemps outcrop thanks

to a northerly wind and the forecast

1:47:341:47:40

is for chilly conditions --

temperatures have dropped.

1:47:401:47:43

Take

1:47:441:47:44

Take it easy on the back roads and

pavements this morning. Showers in

1:47:441:47:48

southern England over the past few

hours. Temperatures will drop before

1:47:481:47:54

they rise once again but eastern

parts of England, unlike yesterday

1:47:541:47:57

where you had the sunshine, today

you have the cloud, outbreaks of

1:47:571:48:01

rain, sleet and snow in places to

take us through the morning. A few

1:48:011:48:05

showers north of Scotland, much of

Scotland, north-west England and

1:48:051:48:09

Northern Ireland, other than

isolated showers, most will be dry.

1:48:091:48:13

Frosty and icy in places, some mist

the and dense fog patches which will

1:48:131:48:18

take a while to clear, other than a

few showers in the far west,

1:48:181:48:23

particularly Cornwall,

Carmarthenshire, most will be dry

1:48:231:48:29

and sunny to start the day. The

cloud we've had overnight breaking

1:48:291:48:33

up and the rest of the day should be

fine. Western areas compared to

1:48:331:48:37

yesterday, a brighter day, a few

showers, eastern areas, a bit of

1:48:371:48:40

cloud around, strong, raw wind at

that and the showers will come and

1:48:401:48:43

go, some will be heavy, hail,

thunder, sleet and snow possible.

1:48:431:48:48

Temperatures down on yesterday

thanks to the northerly breeze,

1:48:481:48:51

barely getting to 2-7 in some areas

and feeling colder than that given

1:48:511:48:57

the strength of the wind. It will

take a while tonight for the wind to

1:48:571:49:01

ease. We continue with the showers

around the coasts, leading to the

1:49:011:49:06

risk of ice, but as the winds of all

lighter, a widespread and sharp

1:49:061:49:12

frost will formation wide. Kemps

lower than you can see on the chart

1:49:121:49:17

in the countryside. -- temperatures.

We open on a frosty and cold note

1:49:171:49:21

but it will be a lovely crisp start

on Saturday. A good deal of sunshine

1:49:211:49:26

to begin with. Eastern areas back to

a better day with some fine and dry

1:49:261:49:31

conditions dominating but Western

areas will see the cloud thickening

1:49:311:49:34

through the day and for parts of

Wales, south-west England and the

1:49:341:49:38

Midlands we'll see a few showers.

Temperatures creeping up for the

1:49:381:49:43

south-west, but for most on

Saturday, a cold day. On Sunday,

1:49:431:49:50

south-westerly winds pick up,

bringing mild air for everyone,

1:49:501:49:52

takes all day to reach the

south-east but a price to pay for

1:49:521:49:56

the return of something milder. On

Sunday, more cloud and stronger

1:49:561:49:59

winds and outbreaks of rain

spreading across most areas. Some of

1:49:591:50:02

it will be heavy at times,

particularly on the hills in the

1:50:021:50:05

west. That's your weather, now back

to Naga and Charlie.

Matt, there's

1:50:051:50:11

been debate about your jacket this

morning, is it corduroy or denim?

1:50:111:50:15

For winter where we need to know

what the weatherman is wearing.

It

1:50:151:50:20

is corduroy this morning and it is

very warm and smugly.

I've been

1:50:201:50:24

fascinated by the mermaids behind

you. They look like they need a

1:50:241:50:31

glass of something festive and that

would work. You just need a

1:50:311:50:36

little...

They do look like... They

do look like they've been at a

1:50:361:50:43

Christmas party, don't they?

They

do, just a little glass of something

1:50:431:50:48

in each hand, that's what's missing

in that installation.

1:50:481:50:51

Thanks very much, Matt!

Amazing!

1:50:511:50:54

This morning we're looking

at what it's like to be 70 in 2017.

1:50:541:50:58

With life expectancy increasing,

financing retirement

1:50:581:50:59

is a key concern.

1:50:591:51:01

Ben is in Walton-on-Thames

in Surrey this morning.

1:51:011:51:07

Good morning, Ben.

Good morning and

welcome to Surrey. If you were with

1:51:071:51:12

us earlier you will know we are

1:51:121:51:13

welcome to Surrey. If you were with

us earlier you will know we are

1:51:131:51:13

talking about the cost of retirement

and how much money we might need to

1:51:131:51:17

put away to make sure we all get a

comfortable retirement. As you

1:51:171:51:21

touched on, record numbers of people

turning 70 this year, the baby

1:51:211:51:25

boomer generation coming of age in

2017, turning 70, increasingly lots

1:51:251:51:30

of those people are working long

into their 70s, working through

1:51:301:51:35

retirement, some going back to work

and some not leaving work at all.

1:51:351:51:38

With me are two people who have done

that, Helen and Mark. Good morning.

1:51:381:51:43

Mark, you're in a tech firm and you

never retired. And Helen, this is

1:51:431:51:50

interesting, you trained as a

dooler, what did you train in in

1:51:501:51:57

your 70th year?

I trained as a

dooler, which means I'm a birth

1:51:571:52:05

partner for... I look after people

before the baby is born through to

1:52:051:52:10

post-natal. I am with them if they

want me to be there during the

1:52:101:52:15

birth.

You chose to do that when you

were 70, you took all the training

1:52:151:52:19

so you can practice that, why?

Why?

Because I was determined not to sit

1:52:191:52:27

at home and just do reading, which

is what I Rodrigo Duterte. I didn't

1:52:271:52:31

want to just do nothing. -- what I

do often do. I felt I didn't have

1:52:311:52:38

the need to get out of bed in the

morning so I needed a purpose. I

1:52:381:52:43

felt at my age, I've had five

children, I do know something about

1:52:431:52:47

having babies and my old dream was

to work with babies. I listened to a

1:52:471:52:55

programme on Radio 4 about this time

last year and this guy is said into

1:52:551:53:01

retirement, don't just sit at home,

don't let age, don't let finances

1:53:011:53:08

dictate to you your dreams so

revisit your dream, and I did. It's

1:53:081:53:16

like the penny dropped and I needed

to train as a doula.

It's such a

1:53:161:53:21

fascinating job to get into and

Mark, you've been doing technology

1:53:211:53:25

all your life.

Yes.

You have a great

idea before you retired, that not

1:53:251:53:31

retiring allowed you to do, tell us

about that?

I've had good ideas

1:53:311:53:36

through my life, I had a good idea

about a computer in a suitcase so

1:53:361:53:41

you opened it up and the keyboard

was there and the screen was in

1:53:411:53:44

front of you but I didn't really do

anything with that, unfortunately

1:53:441:53:47

other people did and we all have one

of those now! I had this idea in my

1:53:471:53:52

50s about having a device that would

talk back to you when you're on the

1:53:521:53:56

telephone so you can make a

telephone call without pressing the

1:53:561:54:00

buttons or dialling the number.

Why

did you decide to do that in

1:54:001:54:04

retirement?

Basically I had a

pension that matured so I had a lump

1:54:041:54:09

sum, I thought now was the

opportunity to invest that lump sum

1:54:091:54:13

in trying to get this thing on --

off the ground. That's what I did.

1:54:131:54:19

Thanks for talking to us and we will

be talking more later. I want you to

1:54:191:54:24

introduce you to Jonathan, from the

Age of No Retirement. You want to

1:54:241:54:29

raise perceptions about people in

retirement, two people working long

1:54:291:54:35

into their 70s, it's increasingly

common, isn't it?

It is but not

1:54:351:54:42

common enough. We have a gulf

between perception and reality. We

1:54:421:54:47

have an extra ten years of healthy

life expectancy more than the

1:54:471:54:52

previous two generations, yet this

increased longevity and healthy

1:54:521:54:56

longevity isn't translating into

economic productivity. We still have

1:54:561:55:00

this crisp lacklustre of retirement

which divides productivity from

1:55:001:55:07

retirement.

People think it's about

putting your feet up and not doing

1:55:071:55:12

anything but people are fitter for

longer so they could be working?

1:55:121:55:16

They could be. You're now in

retirement for 20, 30, maybe 40

1:55:161:55:21

years and from a mental health

perspective you can't be doing

1:55:211:55:25

nothing for that length of time so

money is part of it but it's also

1:55:251:55:32

fulfilment, purpose, learning,

creating opportunities to learn new

1:55:321:55:35

things, having fun and most

important is the human connection.

1:55:351:55:39

Jonathan, good to talk to you, time

is tight but nice to talk to you,

1:55:391:55:43

from the Age of No Retirement.

You heard it there, great examples

1:55:431:55:47

of people working in their

retirement but not for the reasons

1:55:471:55:51

you would expect, it's not about a

bit more income, it's about

1:55:511:55:54

connection, purpose and doing

something with that later life.

1:55:541:55:57

We'll hear more stories through the

morning so join us after 8am and we

1:55:571:56:03

will talk to you then.

Thanks, Ben.

Speak to you then.

1:56:031:56:07

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Hello.

2:00:012:00:02

This is Breakfast, with

Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty.

2:00:022:00:04

A round of applause from EU leaders

as Theresa May tells them she can

2:00:042:00:07

deliver a "smooth Brexit".

2:00:072:00:08

The show of support

for the Prime Minister came

2:00:082:00:10

at a dinner in Brussels,

where the EU will today

2:00:102:00:13

officially move Brexit

talks to the next stage.

2:00:132:00:19

Good morning, it's

Friday 15th December.

2:00:312:00:33

Also this morning:

2:00:332:00:36

A new study finds one in six parents

allow their children

2:00:362:00:39

to drink at the age of 14,

but doctors warn it's putting

2:00:392:00:41

youngsters' health at risk.

2:00:412:00:51

In the sport, Captain Smith is

leading the fight back. They need to

2:00:522:00:55

find a way to stop Steve Smith after

he took two early wickets.

2:00:552:01:02

A record number of people turned 70

this year, so what is life really

2:01:022:01:07

like for the baby boomers in 2017. I

will meet Josie and some of the

2:01:072:01:12

other residents here at a retirement

village in Surrey.

2:01:122:01:15

As he takes on the role

of "The Greatest Showman",

2:01:152:01:17

Hugh Jackman tells me how

he got into character.

2:01:172:01:21

This was me on set all day... And it

looks easy, but I dropped about the

2:01:212:01:27

first 300.

2:01:272:01:32

He has been one of the musical stars

of 2017 - Stormzy is going to be

2:01:372:01:42

back on the sofa with us looking

back on a life changing year.

2:01:422:01:49

Matt has the weather,

and he's enjoying a festival

2:01:492:01:51

of light this morning.

2:01:512:01:55

Welcome to Longleat in Wiltshire,

where we are among amazing lanterns,

2:01:552:02:02

part of the festival of light. The

theme this year is the magic of

2:02:022:02:12

storytelling, and the weather story

through this weekend is for things

2:02:122:02:15

to get milder. Today is a cold day,

with frost and ice around. The full

2:02:152:02:18

forecast 15 minutes.

2:02:182:02:20

Good morning.

2:02:202:02:21

First, our main story.

2:02:212:02:22

Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

2:02:222:02:25

will give the green light for talks

to move to the second stage.

2:02:252:02:28

Last night at a dinner

in Brussels, Theresa May

2:02:282:02:30

insisted she was on course

for what she termed

2:02:302:02:32

a "smooth" Brexit.

2:02:322:02:35

So what does the next

stage look like?

2:02:352:02:37

Talks will now focus

on the transition deal

2:02:372:02:40

between the two sides,

as well as their future relationship

2:02:402:02:42

and trading arrangements.

2:02:422:02:44

Mrs May has said she wants

discussions on transition

2:02:442:02:46

settled by March 2018,

that's a year before Britain

2:02:462:02:49

is due to leave the EU.

2:02:492:02:53

But with a Brexit Day vote

in Parliament next week

2:02:532:02:56

on whether to put an exact time

and date on that departure,

2:02:562:02:59

both sides will be aware

that the clock is ticking.

2:02:592:03:02

Our correspondent Adam Fleming

is in Brussels this morning.

2:03:022:03:12

Let's paint a picture of a dinner in

Brussels after what has been a week

2:03:122:03:16

of ups and downs.

Guess, so the

leaders have met all yesterday

2:03:162:03:22

afternoon then had a dinner, which

was focusing on migration and the

2:03:222:03:26

refugee crisis, how to avoid that

happening again in the future.

2:03:262:03:30

Theresa May gave them an update on

Brexit. EU leaders are about to

2:03:302:03:38

decide that enough progress has been

made in the first phase to move to

2:03:382:03:44

the second period, looking to the

future and what cooperation between

2:03:442:03:47

the EU and the UK will look like in

the future. There was a round of

2:03:472:03:53

applause from the other leaders led

by Angela Merkel. It was probably a

2:03:532:03:58

combination of congratulation and

relief that they have made this

2:03:582:04:01

milestone. Theresa May went home

last night, the other 27 leaders

2:04:012:04:05

will talk about the guidelines they

will issue for the next phase of the

2:04:052:04:09

Brexit talks. First, they will

remind the UK the promises that they

2:04:092:04:14

have made so far and that they must

be kept if this is going to work.

2:04:142:04:19

Second, the transition deal, a

couple of years of sticking to

2:04:192:04:22

roughly the current EU rules and

regulations after Brexit day in

2:04:222:04:26

March 2019, and then the future

relationship about trade and

2:04:262:04:29

security, how they will cooperate in

future. EU leaders aren't really

2:04:292:04:33

prepared to get into the detail of

that and have proper talks until

2:04:332:04:38

March next year, because they want

Theresa May and her Cabinet

2:04:382:04:41

colleagues have a big discussion

about what they actually want before

2:04:412:04:46

they are ready to play ball.

That is

the important stuff - what are your

2:04:462:04:51

sources telling you about the menu?

I knew this was coming. They had

2:04:512:04:55

langoustine to start, then some kind

of chicken dish, and then the really

2:04:552:05:01

weird bit, they had a festive log

with a twist. I have spoken to my

2:05:012:05:06

sources and no one can tell me what

the twist is, but I can reveal that

2:05:062:05:10

the EU head of catering is being

woken up so we can find out what the

2:05:102:05:14

twist was.

Adam, thank you very

much.

2:05:142:05:20

Can you imagine a twist to your

festive log?

2:05:202:05:24

I don't know.

2:05:242:05:27

One in six parents in the UK

gives their children

2:05:272:05:29

alcohol by the age of 14,

according to new research.

2:05:292:05:31

That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

2:05:312:05:34

until they are at least

a year older.

2:05:342:05:36

Researchers from University College

London also found white,

2:05:362:05:38

well-educated parents were most

likely to have a relaxed attitude

2:05:382:05:40

to young people drinking.

2:05:402:05:43

The Church of England has apologised

to the family of a bishop

2:05:432:05:46

for failings in the way it

investigated allegations of child

2:05:462:05:52

abuse against him almost 60

years after his death.

2:05:522:05:54

An independent review

of the investigation into the former

2:05:542:05:56

Bishop of Chichester,

George Bell, is being

2:05:562:05:57

published this morning.

2:05:572:05:59

He died in 1958.

2:05:592:06:00

The White House says Donald Trump

and the Russian president,

2:06:002:06:02

Vladimir Putin, have discussed

working together to resolve

2:06:022:06:04

the crisis over North Korea's

nuclear programme.

2:06:042:06:07

Meanwhile, the most senior UN

official to visit North Korea

2:06:072:06:13

for six years told the BBC

Pyongyang should re-open

2:06:132:06:15

communication channels

with South Korea, which were

2:06:152:06:16

suspended in 2009.

2:06:162:06:19

Nine million adults in the UK

are chronically lonely,

2:06:192:06:21

according to a commission set up

by the MP Jo Cox, before her murder.

2:06:212:06:25

It says loneliness is as harmful

to health as smoking

2:06:252:06:29

15 cigarettes a day,

and calls for a government-led

2:06:292:06:31

national strategy to

address the problem.

2:06:312:06:35

Our North of England correspondent

Danny Savage reports.

2:06:352:06:40

You can't catch me.

2:06:402:06:41

In the months before

she was murdered, Jo Cox

2:06:412:06:43

started a campaign

to tackle loneliness.

2:06:432:06:45

She said she didn't want to live

in a country where thousands

2:06:452:06:48

of people live lonely lives

forgotten by the rest of us.

2:06:482:06:51

The campaign carried

on in her name and

2:06:512:06:54

has now concluded we'll have

to do our bit to combat loneliness.

2:06:542:07:01

Susan spent months

feeling isolated and

2:07:012:07:03

desperate and things improved hugely

when the royal voluntary service

2:07:032:07:05

intervened.

2:07:052:07:11

I was really alone, I was depressed,

I tried to take my own life.

2:07:112:07:15

Really bad.

2:07:152:07:16

In a lot of pain.

2:07:162:07:20

If it wasn't for these people,

all these people that's helping me

2:07:202:07:23

now, I wouldn't be here.

2:07:232:07:27

And I appreciate everything that

people have done for me.

2:07:272:07:31

It's not always obvious to people

that they might be lonely or in need

2:07:312:07:34

of some companionship.

2:07:342:07:37

And what we offer

isn't somebody to come

2:07:372:07:39

in and talk at people.

2:07:392:07:42

What we are doing is saying

to people, would you

2:07:422:07:44

like to be part of something

where you meet somebody,

2:07:442:07:46

you get to know them,

they get to know you and you

2:07:462:07:49

create a friendship?

2:07:492:07:53

The Jo Cox Loneliness

Commission has concluded

2:07:532:07:56

that government and employers can

do their bit to deal with loneliness

2:07:562:07:59

but that individuals and communities

are just as important in preventing

2:07:592:08:02

isolation.

2:08:022:08:03

Danny Savage, BBC

News, West Yorkshire.

2:08:032:08:13

It's been an exciting morning when

it comes to cricket. Mike has been

2:08:142:08:18

following all of bat. Any updates?

It has been nonstop. At the moment,

2:08:182:08:24

Australia are beginning to seize

back the initiative. They are 125-2,

2:08:242:08:30

leaving them 278 behind England's

total of 403, mainly down to their

2:08:302:08:37

captain, Steve Smith, who any second

now could get a half-century. He has

2:08:372:08:42

moved on to 47. They are beginning

to creep up on England's total.

2:08:422:08:46

Especially with only to make wickets

down, it is vital that England get

2:08:462:08:50

another wicket before the close of

play today.

They just missed a

2:08:502:08:59

sitter...

It comes after a pretty

good day for England overall. In the

2:08:592:09:04

early hours of the day, you had

Jonny Bairstow getting his century,

2:09:042:09:09

140 before he was out. Then the

England tail-enders collapsed. Then

2:09:092:09:16

to make wickets were taken with good

bowling. That seems like a long time

2:09:162:09:21

ago. Australia are two up, this is

the third Ashes Test and there are

2:09:212:09:31

two Matt Mullan to play. If England

were to lose this one as well, it

2:09:312:09:34

would be all over and there would be

to make meaningless tests.

You never

2:09:342:09:38

know. The element is probably

another hour to go. Can England get

2:09:382:09:42

another wicket?

Abhi back in 20

minutes.

2:09:422:09:52

We've enjoyed this this morning.

This is a seasonal greeting on a

2:09:522:09:56

large scale. This is a pilot tracing

an outline of an enormous Christmas

2:09:562:10:01

tree. This is a test flight of an

Airbuses A380. It goes across

2:10:012:10:12

hamburger in Germany in the north,

down to Stuttgart in the cell. The

2:10:122:10:16

plane flew at an average height of

40,000 feet. To do the whole

2:10:162:10:21

Christmas tree, it took five hours

and 22 minutes. Set off at 12:47pm

2:10:212:10:27

and landed at the same airport at

16:35pm. I don't know how long it

2:10:272:10:35

took to do a bauble. There is a

mathematical equation for that.

2:10:352:10:38

I'll work on that!

2:10:382:10:44

Children who start drinking

at an early age are more

2:10:442:10:46

likely to fail at school,

have behavioural issues and grow up

2:10:462:10:49

to have alcohol problems,

according to the Millennium Cohort

2:10:492:10:51

Study.

2:10:512:10:52

Researchers found that one in six

parents in the UK let their children

2:10:522:10:55

drink alcohol at the age of 14,

despite medical advice

2:10:552:10:57

recommending children avoid it

until they're at least 15.

2:10:572:11:00

Journalist Angela Epstein

joins us in the studio,

2:11:002:11:02

along with Dorothy Newbury-Birch,

Professor of Alcohol

2:11:022:11:03

and Public Health Research

at Teesside University,

2:11:032:11:05

who is in our London newsroom.

2:11:052:11:13

Professor, if I could ask you first,

just go through what this survey is

2:11:132:11:18

telling us that we possibly didn't

know before.

What some of us didn't

2:11:182:11:22

know before is that parents are

giving their children alcohol before

2:11:222:11:30

the age of 15, which is the

recommended time that the Chief

2:11:302:11:33

Medical Officer in 2009 told us that

we shouldn't be giving our children

2:11:332:11:39

alcohol. And the reasons for that

are numerous. We know that the later

2:11:392:11:46

that a child drinks alcohol, the

less likely they are to have

2:11:462:11:49

problems later on in life, so it's

really important that we don't do

2:11:492:11:54

this before the age of 15.

On the

face of it, Professor, if I could,

2:11:542:12:00

the difference between 14 and 15,

it's 12 months. I'm stating the

2:12:002:12:05

obvious, but is it that significant?

I don't think it's an overnight

2:12:052:12:09

thing at all. It's clear and the

guidelines say clearly that we

2:12:092:12:14

shouldn't be giving alcohol under

the age of 18, but in reality, we

2:12:142:12:18

know that that does happen. We know

that the majority of under 18s get

2:12:182:12:24

their alcohol from their parents.

This isn't because they think

2:12:242:12:28

they're doing the wrong thing, they

think, we think we are doing the

2:12:282:12:36

right thing. The evidence tells us

this isn't the case.

Angela, you

2:12:362:12:39

have two children.

Four!

But you

allowed your children to sample

2:12:392:12:52

alcohol at what age?

Excuse the pun

but I was fairly fluid about it.

2:12:522:13:05

There is a difference between mum

and dad being passed out in front of

2:13:052:13:08

the telly on a Wednesday night and

having a family get-together with

2:13:082:13:14

protocol on the table and a curious

teenager wants to try a sip. -- with

2:13:142:13:20

sparkling wine on the table. When we

establish very fixed parameters in

2:13:202:13:30

parenting, we have all been kids,

the curious child drinks, OK, Mum is

2:13:302:13:35

saying no, so there must be

something good about this stuff. My

2:13:352:13:39

youngest is 13. The other week, we

were at some friends', and they had

2:13:392:13:44

opened a bottle of bubbly, and she

said, can I try some? , so I let

2:13:442:13:51

her.

It is the job of people whose

role it is to look at the clinical

2:13:512:13:59

aspects of this to determine and

age, isn't it? They can't be as

2:13:592:14:03

ambivalent as you as a mum. Their

job is to say, what is the evidence

2:14:032:14:12

tells us there is an age, and the

age is 15. The report says damage

2:14:122:14:17

from 14. That is their role.

I

understand that. There is a

2:14:172:14:23

difference between having a

state-mandated jurisdiction, such as

2:14:232:14:27

not being able to drive until you

are 17, that is what the law says.

2:14:272:14:31

Everybody knows their family dynamic

personally. There are socioeconomic

2:14:312:14:36

situations where children are being

brought up to see alcohol in a very

2:14:362:14:40

negative way. I like to feel as a

responsible parent, we are not

2:14:402:14:46

massive boozers, and I am not in the

pub every night, and I feel it is a

2:14:462:14:53

very natural, seamless way to

introduce it, and I hope it will

2:14:532:14:57

encourage responsible drinking. A

couple up my kids are at university

2:14:572:15:01

now. There is in the Big Brother

situation where I am spying on what

2:15:012:15:05

they are drinking. I think I have

inculcated good values where alcohol

2:15:052:15:08

is concerned. What might you see

where the conflict is between

2:15:082:15:13

parents who believe they are being

responsible and educating children

2:15:132:15:17

rather than there being an arbitrary

age to start?

2:15:172:15:24

It is something we grapple with as

parents but the reality is, young

2:15:242:15:29

people see their parents drink and

we have got this idea that we are

2:15:292:15:33

talking about parents, will speaker

talked about somebody getting very,

2:15:332:15:36

very drunk. We know the biggest

increase in drinking is amongst

2:15:362:15:42

middle-aged women and what we

showing our children by doing that

2:15:422:15:45

and saying that? We would not give

them any other drug at 14 and say,

2:15:452:15:50

let's teach you how to use this and

how to have a go at this. This

2:15:502:15:55

really makes me think about the

cultural issues and how we tackle

2:15:552:16:00

them. At Teesside University, as

part of our grand challenges, we are

2:16:002:16:05

working that this in-depth. I

totally get where people coming

2:16:052:16:09

from, we are so scared that I would

children will use drugs that if we

2:16:092:16:15

teach them how to use alcohol, that

is going to be OK. But we are

2:16:152:16:19

talking about two different

situations.

I would quickly say I

2:16:192:16:23

would like to think I teach my

children about alcohol. I do not say

2:16:232:16:28

to my child, due at a glass of milk

origin and tonic? I wanted to know

2:16:282:16:33

it is sensible and responsible, it

is not offered on the table when I

2:16:332:16:37

put out her tea, but parents have to

be empowered to know their children

2:16:372:16:41

and understand the correct and

sensible way to bring them up.

2:16:412:16:45

Angela and Dorothy, thanks very

much. Thank you.

2:16:452:16:54

It's 8:16.

2:16:542:17:00

Matt has been outdoors at Longleat

and these shots are spectacular,

2:17:002:17:05

they look almost unreal. Matt is

inside now. The camera is going to

2:17:052:17:09

take is inside.

They are indeed. The

Festival of Lights running until

2:17:092:17:29

January the 17. We are seeing the

Christmas decorations, decorated for

2:17:292:17:33

an Edwardian Christmas in the House.

To put us into a festive mood and

2:17:332:17:38

helping to brighten up these dark

winter mornings. A little warmer

2:17:382:17:44

inside Bennett is outside.

2:17:442:17:45

The forecast for today, it surely

start here and across the UK. There

2:17:482:17:53

is frost and ice across many parts

of the country. Surplus on the back

2:17:532:17:59

roads and pavements this morning. A

drier day for many then yesterday,

2:17:592:18:04

showers across the South clearing

away now. The rest of the day should

2:18:042:18:08

be fine. Across eastern parts of

England compared with yesterday, a

2:18:082:18:12

lot more cloud, further showers

throughout the day, in mixture of

2:18:122:18:17

rain, hale, sweet and snow. In the

West, a drier and brighter day than

2:18:172:18:21

yesterday. Scotland and Northern

Ireland, very few showers around in

2:18:212:18:25

the West. Frosty and I see and

freezing pop -- freezing fog patches

2:18:252:18:29

which take a while to clear, but

much of the country dry and clear.

2:18:292:18:37

Wales and Cornwall, this is where we

will see some showers. Not as windy

2:18:372:18:41

across Western areas as it wishes

today. But the wind we do have is

2:18:412:18:45

chilly and is coming from the North.

That is adding to the chill and

2:18:452:18:50

dropping the temperatures compared

to the past couple of days. Through

2:18:502:18:54

the day, and East-West split with

eastern areas a good deal cloudier

2:18:542:18:59

with further showers at at times and

a slight coating of snow possible on

2:18:592:19:03

the hills. Very isolated showers in

the West, mostly sunny and

2:19:032:19:07

temperatures down around 3-7dC at

the very best. Colder than that in

2:19:072:19:12

the breeze. Into the night, the

breeze slowly eases. Still some

2:19:122:19:18

showers around the coast of the

country but many inland areas dry,

2:19:182:19:22

clear and mist and fog patches

forming, temperatures dropping

2:19:222:19:26

widely. Below freezing. Lower in the

countryside. Frost takes us into

2:19:262:19:33

Saturday, but what a start to the

weekend! Crisp and Frosty, most

2:19:332:19:39

places dry, I see around coastal

districts where we have seen showers

2:19:392:19:42

through the night. Showers are

fading away and unlike today,

2:19:422:19:46

eastern areas have the best of the

sunshine in the afternoon and in the

2:19:462:19:49

West, we see cloud increase and

showers in Wales, the Midlands and

2:19:492:19:54

the south-west and temperatures

slowly on the rise. Still a chilly

2:19:542:19:56

day tomorrow. Milder air with us on

Sunday, it takes all day to reach

2:19:562:20:02

East Anglia and the South East. With

that comes a stronger wind. Gale

2:20:022:20:07

force at at times around the coasts

and outbreaks of rain. Not a

2:20:072:20:12

wash-out, but rain for just about

all areas, some of which is heavy,

2:20:122:20:17

especially on the hills. A change to

something milder in the weekend but

2:20:172:20:21

for the time being, staying with the

cold weather, helping us to get into

2:20:212:20:24

the festive beam and there is only

ten more nights yet and I should

2:20:242:20:30

probably put the decorations up

myself.

Did you not put your

2:20:302:20:34

decorations up at home?

Not yet, no!

2:20:342:20:36

Your poor children, are they not

disappointed?

They are fine! We keep

2:20:402:20:46

promising it will be this weekend,

they are fine, they are happy.

I at

2:20:462:20:50

least taking them to a panto to let

them know it's Christmas?

Yes, I am,

2:20:502:20:56

between Christmas and New Year,

looking forward to that. Pressure.

2:20:562:21:00

No, you might be interested in this

next item, we are talking about

2:21:002:21:08

pantomimes. Grinch!

2:21:082:21:12

Pantos - they've got a longstanding

and proud tradition of double

2:21:122:21:15

entendres and jokes which stray

a bit close to the bone.

2:21:152:21:17

Now one production in Manchester has

got into trouble after a mother

2:21:172:21:20

complained the performance

of Dick Whittington, starring

2:21:202:21:22

the Krankies and John Barrowman,

was "too smutty for children".

2:21:222:21:29

Natalie Wood said the show cross the

line from innuendo too raw for Gala

2:21:292:21:35

Tyreek -- for Garrity so is it time

for this Christmas tradition to

2:21:352:21:38

clean up its act?

2:21:382:21:40

Joining us now is radio talk show

host and panto actor Pete Price.

2:21:402:21:43

Have you seen this, yet?

No, but

they are dear friends of mine, John

2:21:432:21:51

and the Krankies, I know that act.

Pantos have always feared on the

2:21:512:21:58

line of innuendo and people enjoy

that and the idea is that the

2:21:582:22:02

innuendo is there, but it is

supposed to pass over the heads of

2:22:022:22:05

the kids. The complaint is this has

not. Is this a trend, have you seen

2:22:052:22:10

this?

I don't think it is a trend, I

have done 32 pantos this year, and

2:22:102:22:16

Jeannie at the Echo Arena in Aladdin

and I have little lines, but they

2:22:162:22:20

must go over the heads of the

children. But children are not

2:22:202:22:25

children any more with mobile phones

so it is difficult. Panto is for

2:22:252:22:30

everybody and more adults are going

to panto as well so it is a really

2:22:302:22:33

good thing. But you cannot cross the

line. The audience is so important.

2:22:332:22:40

These new audiences. Panto is so

essential because it takes a lot of

2:22:402:22:44

money which keep theatres alive and

it is bringing children in for the

2:22:442:22:48

first experience. They are our next

audience so they really to us.

There

2:22:482:22:54

is a suggestion that a lot of

pantomimes, alongside the

2:22:542:22:58

traditional audience of children and

parents, another group is coming in,

2:22:582:23:02

grown-ups, adults out for a night

out after some drinks. Those shows

2:23:022:23:07

are trying to cater for them as

well. I suppose the danger is, do

2:23:072:23:13

you start, you get a big laugh in a

certain direction on stage may be

2:23:132:23:17

ad-libbing and because you hear

that, you go in a certain direction?

2:23:172:23:22

That could be a danger in a live

performance.

Yes, but a good panto,

2:23:222:23:27

the ad lib is rehearsed and they are

not real. In a big panto, it is a

2:23:272:23:33

live line you draw. The successful

pantos, they do the lines. And you

2:23:332:23:38

cannot cross that line. There is no

point. But what do the kids say when

2:23:382:23:43

they go home and go, I played ugly

sister with Cilla Black and greatest

2:23:432:23:47

panto ever in 2008 at the Empire. It

was amazing, people came from all

2:23:472:23:52

over the world, but what do the kids

say when they say, why was there a

2:23:522:23:55

man dressed as a woman? You can

question anything in panto.

Yes, but

2:23:552:24:01

that is different. I will tell you

why, because in this instance, there

2:24:012:24:05

was a play on words with the mainly

character, Dick Whittington.

It is

2:24:052:24:12

difficult in Dick Whittington not to

do a play on words.

There was also a

2:24:122:24:16

gesture. The gesture was wrong. It

is the principle that children go

2:24:162:24:22

home and copy these things, that is

what parents are concerned about.

2:24:222:24:26

But these things are not going over

their heads.

Every ugly sister gets

2:24:262:24:32

groped by a Prince.

Why is that

acceptable? Children are seeing that

2:24:322:24:39

happening onstage. It not

acceptable. Why is it entertainment?

2:24:392:24:45

But that has always been there. Oh,

Mrs! Is that offensive? That is

2:24:452:24:51

panto.

The problem is, it is an

interesting topic. When the cultural

2:24:512:25:00

surroundings change, it is not OK to

have an answer which is, well, it

2:25:002:25:05

has aways been like that. Other

industries are not getting away with

2:25:052:25:08

that now, you have seen that in all

sorts of ways, in culture around the

2:25:082:25:13

entertainment industry, it is not OK

to say, it has always been like

2:25:132:25:16

that. This is a tricky balance.

But

if you analyse a pantomime, however

2:25:162:25:22

good they are and however strong

they are, you could rip it apart.

2:25:222:25:27

But it is a tradition that belongs

to England. They are doing it in

2:25:272:25:30

America right now. I love the ad lib

is, and Liverpool, I was there with

2:25:302:25:36

Cilla Black when she did the famous

line and you went, how shall I kill

2:25:362:25:41

him? And somebody went, sing to him!

So you should not cross that line.

2:25:412:25:46

You also, don't insult children.

They are not stupid any more. As you

2:25:462:25:52

do panto, talk to me about the

organisations running the theatres.

2:25:522:25:58

We have had a spokesperson from the

pantomime producer. Kudos

2:25:582:26:02

entertainment and the Manchester

Opera House. They said, in keeping

2:26:022:26:06

with the tradition of pantomime, the

script does make use of double

2:26:062:26:11

entendres and, on the names of the

characters, we would talking about

2:26:112:26:15

Dick Whittington. I value feedback

and review comments for the

2:26:152:26:19

development of the show on stage and

scripts of the future. To get

2:26:192:26:24

feedback from the organisers who are

holding the pantomime to say, you

2:26:242:26:28

went too far this time?

Years ago,

you got fined if you cross the line.

2:26:282:26:35

In the number 112 macro, every ad

lib is scripted. If the stars go

2:26:352:26:40

over the line, they have done that

themselves and they will not do

2:26:402:26:44

that. I have worked with the

Krankies and John and they'll love

2:26:442:26:50

the human beings and they certainly

would not offend anybody on purpose.

2:26:502:26:53

Really interesting, thank you very

much. Have a lovely Christmas. And

2:26:532:26:58

for that lady, please don't come to

Liverpool because next week, I am

2:26:582:27:03

playing Bad Santa for three hours

every night and I am really cross --

2:27:032:27:09

really crossing the line. To that

lady, don't come!

Thanks very much.

2:27:092:30:35

That's it for now, I'll be back

in around half an hour.

2:30:392:30:43

Hello.

2:30:522:30:53

This is Breakfast, with

Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty.

2:30:532:31:01

First, our main story.

2:31:012:31:02

Brexit negotiations will reach a key

milestone today when EU leaders

2:31:022:31:05

will give the green light for talks

to move to the second stage.

2:31:052:31:08

Last night at a dinner

in Brussels, Theresa May

2:31:082:31:14

One in six parents in the UK

gives their children

2:31:142:31:16

alcohol by the age of 14,

according to new research.

2:31:162:31:19

That's despite medical advice

which says children should not drink

2:31:192:31:21

until they are at least

a year older.

2:31:212:31:23

Researchers from University College

London also found white,

2:31:232:31:26

well-educated parents were most

likely to have a relaxed attitude

2:31:262:31:28

to young people drinking.

2:31:282:31:32

The Church of England has apologised

to the family of a bishop

2:31:322:31:35

for failings in the way it

investigated allegations of child

2:31:352:31:38

abuse against him almost 60

years after his death.

2:31:382:31:40

An independent review

of the investigation into the former

2:31:402:31:42

Bishop of Chichester,

George Bell, is being

2:31:422:31:44

published this morning.

2:31:442:31:45

He died in 1958.

2:31:452:31:52

The White House says Donald Trump

and the Russian president,

2:31:522:31:54

Vladimir Putin, have discussed

working together to resolve

2:31:542:31:56

the crisis over North Korea's

nuclear programme.

2:31:562:31:58

Meanwhile, the most senior UN

official to visit North Korea

2:31:582:32:00

for six years told the BBC

Pyongyang should re-open

2:32:002:32:02

communication channels

with South Korea, which were

2:32:022:32:04

suspended in 2009.

2:32:042:32:14

Charges have been brought

against the leader of the far-right

2:32:282:32:31

group, Britain First in connection

with a rally held

2:32:312:32:33

in Belfast in August.

2:32:332:32:34

Paul Golding is accused

of using threatening,

2:32:342:32:36

insulting or abusive

words or behaviour.

2:32:362:32:37

His group's deputy leader,

Jayda Fransen, appeared in court

2:32:372:32:39

yesterday to face the same charge

in relation to the rally.

2:32:392:32:42

She was later arrested and charged

in connection with a separate

2:32:422:32:45

incident in Belfast on Wednesday.

2:32:452:32:46

Britain's most senior military

officer has warned of a new threat

2:32:462:32:48

posed by Russia to communications

cables that run under the sea.

2:32:482:32:51

The head of the Defence Staff,

2:32:512:32:52

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stuart Peach,

said Britain and NATO must avoid

2:32:522:32:55

the risk of a potentially

"catastrophic" effect on the economy

2:32:552:32:58

if the cables were cut.

2:32:582:32:59

What about this for a giant

seasonal greeting?

2:32:592:33:01

A pilot traced an outline

of an enormous Christmas tree

2:33:012:33:03

during a test flight of an Airbus

A380.

2:33:032:33:05

The tree, complete with baubles,

stretched for hundreds

2:33:052:33:07

of kilometres across Germany,

from Hamburg in the north

2:33:072:33:09

to Stuttgart in the south.

2:33:092:33:19

How long use bows that took? It was

five hours, 22 minutes.

2:33:242:33:38

I will always look for her in the

audience. I'm looking straight at

2:33:422:33:45

her, it is a way of saying, whatever

happens, success or failure, we have

2:33:452:33:50

got each other.

How do you deal with

nerves when you are a Hollywood

2:33:502:33:56

superstar like you jacked a man, we

speak with him about his family and

2:33:562:34:01

how he deals with worries. -- Hugh

Jackman. It has taken 30,000 metres

2:34:012:34:08

of silk and 3000 lanterns, we live

at Longleat, it is transformed into

2:34:082:34:14

a fairy tale.

2:34:142:34:16

Also this morning, three Mobos, a

Brit award nomination and beating Ed

2:34:272:34:30

Sheeran to BBC Music's artist of

2017 - it's been quite a year for

2:34:302:34:33

Stormzy. He'll be here just after

nine. Not a bad year. Just to cap a

2:34:332:34:40

great year, he is on the side of

the! -- he is on the sofa!

2:34:402:34:51

Head of football focus, I don't know

what we will be doing with Dan

2:34:512:34:54

Walker, he is not moving from his

spot, until Steve Smith is out, the

2:34:542:34:58

way it is looking, it could be a

very long time before this trailing

2:34:582:35:01

captain is out, and a half of us

all, we want to see Dan Walker on

2:35:012:35:08

Football Focus! Where there was

hope, there is now frustration, an

2:35:082:35:14

update on the scorecard, after a

roller-coaster of a second day, in

2:35:142:35:17

the third Ashes Test, Australia are

back in this.

2:35:172:35:30

Steve Smith has moved on to 53.

Closing the gap, 282 behind.

2:35:302:35:44

It started really well for England,

as Johnny Bairstow celebrated

2:35:522:35:56

a century, eventually out for 114,

add this David Malam's

2:35:562:36:00

140 and at this point the tourists

looked set for a massive score.

2:36:002:36:07

But once these two were

dismissed, England's last 5 wickets

2:36:072:36:11

fell for less than 30 runs.

2:36:112:36:13

And so they had to settled,

for 403 and that score

2:36:132:36:16

looked even healthier,

when Craig Overton in only his

2:36:162:36:22

second test match took two wickets,

including Cameron Bankcroft's.

2:36:222:36:30

But if the home fans sensed

troubled, then Captain Steve Smith

2:36:302:36:32

has led by example and its nearly

100 runs since his side

2:36:322:36:35

last lost a wicket.

2:36:352:36:37

There'll be no non-league sides

in the third round of the FA.

2:36:372:36:44

Cup after the last of them,

Hereford, lost 2-0 to Fleetwood

2:36:442:36:46

in a second round replay last night.

2:36:462:36:48

Cian Bolger scoring both goals.

2:36:482:36:49

Fleetwood will play Leicester

in the next round, so we'll see

2:36:492:36:52

Jamie Vardy returning

to his old club.

2:36:522:36:53

Imagine taking your horse over an

elephant... The equivalent of that

2:36:532:36:56

has happened... Two metres 20, that

is the average size of an Asian

2:36:562:37:02

elephant.

2:37:022:37:04

A spectacular performance

from Laura Renwick at

2:37:042:37:06

the Olympia Horse Show in London,

she rode Top Dollar

2:37:062:37:08

to victory in the Puissance,

clearing 2 metres 20,

2:37:082:37:11

which no-one else had managed.

2:37:112:37:12

He's a young horse, too,

only eight years old,

2:37:122:37:14

so all the more impressive.

2:37:142:37:15

Why did you pick an Asian elephant?

I typed into the Internet, what is

2:37:152:37:19

two metres 20 told... And that is

the average height of an Asian

2:37:192:37:23

elephant. African elephants have

bigger is, and they are much bigger

2:37:232:37:26

entirely.

2:37:262:37:28

We've been tackling some tough

weather conditions in many parts

2:37:282:37:30

of the country this week,

but it's nothing compared

2:37:302:37:32

with what's facing the sailors

in the Volvo Ocean Race.

2:37:322:37:35

This is one of the yachts,

in the Southern Ocean,

2:37:352:37:38

look at this wave, crash over

the entire boat, sending the skipper

2:37:382:37:42

flying along the deck.

2:37:422:37:49

You can see that there is a safety

toe line they are attached to, they

2:37:492:37:53

are free to move around, but if the

worst happens, there is a safety

2:37:532:37:59

line, which would save them

completely disappearing into the

2:37:592:38:01

ocean.

2:38:012:38:02

The seven crews are currently coping

with severe storms,

2:38:022:38:04

on their way from Cape

Town to Melbourne.

2:38:042:38:14

And ahead of the BBC Sports

Personality of the Year trophy

2:38:252:38:30

being handed out on Sunday night,

2:38:302:38:32

the Overseas personality

of the year has been announced,

2:38:322:38:37

and it's Roger Federer.

2:38:372:38:38

He's had a great year,

winning his 8th wimbledon

2:38:382:38:41

title at the age of 35,

he defied the odds, and previous

2:38:412:38:44

injuries, to win Wimbledon

and the Australian Open in 2017

2:38:442:38:46

to take his grand slam tally to 19.

2:38:462:38:48

This is a record fourth time

Federer has won the award.

2:38:482:38:50

This has been going since 1954, all

the names of the winners around

2:38:502:38:53

here... Four tiers below the silver

camera.

May I have a look?

Well...

2:38:532:39:01

How clean are your hands. And, it is

very heavy. It is back to regular.

2:39:012:39:07

Can you see all the names.

His name

has been there three of the last

2:39:072:39:13

four years, Andy Murray, there is 12

nominations, you can go to check out

2:39:132:39:18

the BBC sport website.

Do you know

who got it in 1954?

CJ Chattaway.

2:39:182:39:35

Are, yes, Chris Chattaway, indeed --

ah. I haven't ever really dropped

2:39:352:39:42

it. It really does command the

respect of the entire sporting

2:39:422:39:47

world. I have got to take it safely

to Liverpool, in time for Sunday

2:39:472:39:52

night, I will polish it up and it

will be already. It is live on the

2:39:522:39:57

BBC on Sunday.

I'm trying to make

the connection between Hugh

2:39:572:40:01

Jackman... Big sports fan, true...

2:40:012:40:06

And also,, he has lots of awards...

2:40:062:40:18

Hugh Jackman plays a

larger-than-life personality, PT

2:40:182:40:23

Barnum, and we talked about all

sorts of things, including how he

2:40:232:40:29

started to get his skills worked out

for his new role.

2:40:292:40:37

Are you a top hat man?

I routinely

wear one... As I stroll around...

2:40:372:40:44

Who is! LAUGHTER.

It is an impressive look, can you,

2:40:442:40:47

for a second, the thing is, the top

hat, impresario, the circus, it is a

2:40:472:40:53

symbol, it is one of those things,

you put on the hat and you think...

2:40:532:40:59

100%, the long code, it is

synonymous, the cane... Clearly, I'm

2:40:592:41:05

insecure, at six foot two, and I

needed a more inches.

There we go.

2:41:052:41:10

As soon as you had it in your hand.

2:41:102:41:15

How do you do that that easily,

you've done it many, many times?

2:41:152:41:22

..I would have done

6,000 times in my life.

2:41:222:41:24

This was me on set all day.

2:41:242:41:26

It looks easy but I dropped

about the first 300.

2:41:262:41:34

My sense is that you have quite a

big head.

Actually, at school, I was

2:41:342:41:40

called Pea Head. The Movistar rule,

short, big head. -- movie star.

2:41:402:41:53

What did you know about

Barnum, the character?

2:41:532:41:54

I'd seen the musical,

there's a Broadway musical

2:41:542:41:56

in the '70s that Cy Coleman

wrote the music for,

2:41:562:41:59

Michael Crawford did very famously

for four years here,

2:41:592:42:01

so I knew the story from that.

2:42:012:42:03

I've now read 37 books on him,

and he's one of the most mecurial,

2:42:032:42:06

interesting, self-promoting

characters there's ever been

2:42:062:42:07

and he is the true definition

of a disrupter,

2:42:072:42:10

which we use a lot

these days to describe Elon Musk,

2:42:102:42:12

Bill Gates, Steve Jobs.

2:42:122:42:16

Parts of what he was doing then,

the show that he created,

2:42:252:42:29

feel a bit uncomfortable

now, don't they?

2:42:292:42:31

It's interesting, at the time

he was accused of exploiting people

2:42:312:42:37

because a lot of people will

remember the movie The Elephant Man

2:42:372:42:40

or they understand there was this

sort of seedy side to show business,

2:42:402:42:46

"back alley" where you would go

and see a bearded person

2:42:462:42:49

or whatever, some kind of deformity

2:42:492:42:51

and people were making

money off that.

2:42:512:42:54

He brought them out into the open

and interestingly he inadvertently

2:42:542:43:00

created this family,

and he inadvertently made the entire

2:43:002:43:02

world fall in love

with these people.

2:43:022:43:03

A lot of these people had been

hidden in basements literally

2:43:032:43:06

by their families and they felt love

and acceptance for the first time

2:43:062:43:09

and they loved him for it.

2:43:092:43:18

There are some big

numbers in this film,

2:43:352:43:37

and you are at the heart of them.

2:43:372:43:47

I was an actor whose dream was to be

at the national Theatre Royal

2:43:502:43:54

Shakespeare Company, that was my

dream, and I found myself doing a

2:43:542:43:57

television series... And I learned

to do it, but from there, it was

2:43:572:44:02

weird, I became known for musical

theatre.

Because you did Oklahoma,

2:44:022:44:07

over here.

Even when I was here,

doing Oklahoma, they said, musical

2:44:072:44:11

guy, not a film actor. But I said, I

am faking that, I am actually an

2:44:112:44:17

actor, I am not musical theatre.

2:44:172:44:23

I can't just run off

and join the circus?

2:44:232:44:26

Why not?

2:44:262:44:27

You clearly have a flair

for show business.

2:44:272:44:29

For show business?

2:44:292:44:32

I've never heard of it.

That's 'cause I just invented it.

2:44:322:44:35

I think people think

of you as a very confident

2:44:352:44:37

performer, but as I understand it

you, over the years,

2:44:372:44:40

have had your own things,

self-doubts and whatever about...

2:44:402:44:42

For sure.

2:44:422:44:43

I'm more afraid of fear

stopping me living my life

2:44:432:44:45

or stopping me make choices.

2:44:452:44:46

For example, when I was asked

to host the Oscars I was actually

2:44:462:44:50

in this very hotel when I got

the call, it was 1am,

2:44:502:44:52

and I just went, "I'm

a kid from Australia,"

2:44:522:44:55

it was

Spielberg

on the line,

2:44:552:44:56

and I was, like, "Yes, of course."

2:44:562:44:58

When I hung up the phone,

2:44:582:44:59

the next ten minutes later I was,

like, "What did I do?

2:44:592:45:02

You didn't have to say yes to that."

2:45:022:45:04

So, I do have doubts.

2:45:042:45:05

It's been a good motivator

for me in my life.

2:45:052:45:08

It's frightening but

it'll be OK in the end.

2:45:082:45:10

I think that's got to do

with a couple of things,

2:45:102:45:12

I think it's got a lot to do

with my relationship with Deb.

2:45:122:45:15

If you ever see me walk out

onto a stage you will see me

2:45:152:45:19

put my hand down and I will look

for her in the audience.

2:45:192:45:22

That's your wife?

2:45:222:45:23

I will look for her and it's a way

of saying whatever happens,

2:45:232:45:26

success or failure, we've got each

other but it sounds corny but for me

2:45:262:45:29

that kind of security has really,

really helped me, that kind

2:45:292:45:32

of unconditional love

has really helped me.

2:45:322:45:35

Teen people booed off at the cricket

ground. I had a panic attack the

2:45:522:45:56

night before. What am I doing, I am

an actor, what am I thinking? I

2:45:562:46:02

remember in the dressing room I was

warming up, I sang at about 15 times

2:46:022:46:07

in the dressing room, and this old

Solti was sweeping the floor said

2:46:072:46:11

you seem a bit tonally. He said,

there's 400 million watching on

2:46:112:46:18

telly. So I walked out, apoplectic,

and just as I was introduced to

2:46:182:46:25

sing, ladies and gentlemen, star of

stage and screen, and I'd been in

2:46:252:46:31

one musical and one TV show, star of

stage and screen, Mr Hugh Jackman.

2:46:312:46:40

Boo!. There are 30,000 New

Zealanders above me, and the captain

2:46:402:46:46

of the Australian rugby team at the

time said a few things I cannot say

2:46:462:46:49

on camera about this being our home

and I was like, yeah, and I felt

2:46:492:46:54

like Henry V and if it wasn't for

the booing and the captain, I

2:46:542:46:58

wouldn't be sitting here now.

2:46:582:47:00

Hugh Jackman's Christmas.

2:47:002:47:01

I will be in Australia this time.

2:47:012:47:03

It will be hot.

2:47:032:47:04

You'll be on the beach?

2:47:042:47:05

I live on the beach.

2:47:052:47:06

Definitely go on the beach and we do

the whole hot dinner catastrophe,

2:47:062:47:09

we do everything.

2:47:092:47:13

I have English parents so to me

Christmas has to have gravy,

2:47:132:47:17

roast potatoes, ham and turkey,

Christmas putting with the little 5

2:47:172:47:20

cent pieces stuck in the middle,

brandy butter, custard,

2:47:202:47:22

the whole thing, sweating,

the paper hats disintegrating,

2:47:222:47:24

bad jokes, the whole thing.

2:47:242:47:28

Lovely!

2:47:282:47:29

Thank you.

2:47:292:47:30

Charlie, thanks mate.

2:47:302:47:38

An odd image of sweating into a

paper hat. In Australia some people

2:47:382:47:42

still go to the whole Christmas

lunch thing and do it regardless.

2:47:422:47:45

Like Hugh Jackman and his family.

Matt loves Christmas tradition and

2:47:452:47:50

he is all geared up for it, aren't

you, Matt?

Yes. I love Christmas.

2:47:502:47:56

Only ten more sleeps to go, I will

get there. My poor kids. I think I

2:47:562:48:00

have a job to do this weekend

anyway. We are at Longleat this

2:48:002:48:06

morning among the Festival of light

and it's been a stunning setting,

2:48:062:48:12

stunning location and stunning

lanterns. And here to tell us more

2:48:122:48:16

about the festival is Steve from

Longleat. Thank you for showing us

2:48:162:48:22

around this morning. An amazing

festival. How long does it take to

2:48:222:48:25

put one of these shows together?

We

have around 3000 lanterns and it's

2:48:252:48:30

about a year in the making. So from

the designing which happens in the

2:48:302:48:36

house at Longleat, that is worked

with with the teams in China who

2:48:362:48:40

specialise in making the lanterns

and they arrive here in about

2:48:402:48:44

September and we spend about eight

weeks crafting the lanterns across

2:48:442:48:47

the state, so a year-long job. There

is a lot of planning and a lot of

2:48:472:48:53

large-scale lanterns and they are

scattered around the estate and

2:48:532:48:57

there are a variety of skills, from

electricians, carpenters. All sorts

2:48:572:49:04

of people who come here to create

it.

If we take a look at some of the

2:49:042:49:08

footage from last night around the

lanterns here. There is an obvious

2:49:082:49:13

theme, you could say.

It is the 40th

year of doing it, and this year we

2:49:132:49:18

decided to do it on the magic story

tearing -- telling. So behind as we

2:49:182:49:24

have Hansel and Gretel, and on the

lake we have the Little mermaid, and

2:49:242:49:29

a large galley and about 30 metres

long. The largest lantern is

2:49:292:49:33

sleeping beauty 's Castle, so 25

metres high, and a big construction.

2:49:332:49:39

They look stunning and I believe it

is on until the 7th of January. Good

2:49:392:49:45

luck. Thank you for joining us. It's

been an amazing site this morning.

2:49:452:49:51

It has been a bit chilly, as it has

been across the UK, so let's look at

2:49:512:49:56

the forecast.

2:49:562:49:57

Chilly start with Frost are nice

lots of showers in southern England

2:50:012:50:05

where they were earlier on, and the

skies are now starting to clear. The

2:50:052:50:09

big difference this morning with

yesterday is that it is the eastern

2:50:092:50:13

areas seeing the cloud, outbreaks of

rain. A bit of Thunder cannot be

2:50:132:50:18

ruled out with the showers but the

Western half of England up into

2:50:182:50:21

Scotland, most of you dry and sunny

but cold and frosty this morning.

2:50:212:50:25

Some showers in northern Scotland,

but nowhere near as wet in Northern

2:50:252:50:29

Ireland as it was yesterday. The

same can be said for Wales on the

2:50:292:50:33

south-west. We are going to see the

familiar line of showers running

2:50:332:50:40

down Wales, they will come and go,

and there could be sleet and snow on

2:50:402:50:43

the high ground but through much of

Wales and the south-west, dry and

2:50:432:50:47

sunny day. Not as breezy as

yesterday across the South West but

2:50:472:50:51

the breeze we have is coming in from

the north and it will make it feel

2:50:512:50:55

distinctly chilly across the UK and

a raw wind in the eastern parts

2:50:552:50:59

where the showers will come and go

all day. A few showers in northern

2:50:592:51:03

Scotland and one or two in the far

West and Northern Ireland, of the

2:51:032:51:08

most, dry afternoon with good sunny

spells but temperatures down on

2:51:082:51:11

yesterday's values at around three

or 7 degrees. And the wind will make

2:51:112:51:16

it feel colder than that. Tonight,

the wind will be lighter and some

2:51:162:51:21

showers around the coast, but inland

with the clear skies we will see

2:51:212:51:25

mist and fog forming which could

linger into Saturday morning but a

2:51:252:51:28

widespread fast -- Frost.

Temperatures will fall lower in the

2:51:282:51:35

countryside and you can see the

towns and cities are below freezing

2:51:352:51:40

as we start the weekend. A lovely

crisp and cold start to the weekend

2:51:402:51:45

and where we have fog it will take

awhile to shift, but tomorrow it

2:51:452:51:48

looks like some of the brightest

weather will be in the east of the

2:51:482:51:52

country and the West with cloud

increasing. Parts of Wales, the

2:51:522:51:57

Midlands, the south-west might seek

showers but the temperatures

2:51:572:51:59

creeping up here, but the most

another cold day. Into Sunday the

2:51:592:52:04

wind picks up and milder air pushes

in but there is a downside if you

2:52:042:52:08

prefer your days crisp and cold,

because it turns milder, but wetter

2:52:082:52:14

across the country. Rain on and off

through the day and the heaviest in

2:52:142:52:17

the West and over the hills.

Changing conditions after the cold

2:52:172:52:22

weather the past two weeks. Enjoy

your weekend, and I am now off to

2:52:222:52:26

put the Christmas tree up. Goodbye

for now.

2:52:262:52:28

Your kids will be pleased.

They will

be.

Matt, lovely to see you. See you

2:52:312:52:38

soon. Take care. We shall go to a

man propping up a bar in a

2:52:382:52:48

retirement village. An extraordinary

statistic.

2:52:482:52:51

More people than ever before

will have turned 70 in 2017.

2:52:512:52:58

It is. These are the baby boomers of

which we hear so much about. We are

2:52:582:53:03

in Whiteley retirement village in

Surrey. Terry was a publican for 20

2:53:032:53:09

years.

Man and boy.

I know this is

not your domain but I thought we'd

2:53:092:53:14

introduce you behind the bar. What

is life like for you here?

2:53:142:53:18

Fantastic. I've been here for 12

years and there is as much to do or

2:53:182:53:22

as little to do as you want, but

want to do something we have golf,

2:53:222:53:26

bowls, loads of different things,

line dancing, snooker and in fact

2:53:262:53:31

I've got a match at ten o'clock.

We

better let you get on with it.

If

2:53:312:53:36

you want to come in there, you'd be

welcome.

We have learned you can

2:53:362:53:41

take a bit of a nap in between to

keep you going. Good morning. You

2:53:412:53:45

are the CEO of the village. Why is

this different to other retirement

2:53:452:53:52

villages we might know about?

The

real difference is that we were set

2:53:522:53:56

up 100 years ago and we have a

tradition and history to build on

2:53:562:54:00

for the future. So plans for the

next hundred years are really

2:54:002:54:04

important and the community here is

the thing that makes the big

2:54:042:54:06

difference. It's not only our homes

and the care and support we deliver,

2:54:062:54:11

but the community that works

together and it is made up of many

2:54:112:54:13

different elements, not just the

people who live here like Terry, the

2:54:132:54:18

volunteers and the trustees coming

together and making a real

2:54:182:54:21

difference about people's lives.

That is why we are launching the

2:54:212:54:25

foundation today.

Give it a plug.

We

are launching our foundation for a

2:54:252:54:31

collection of innovative thinking.

This will help other organisations

2:54:312:54:37

learn from you.

And also to bring

other people to come to us because

2:54:372:54:41

we don't have all the answers. But

bringing those things together and

2:54:412:54:45

creating compensations about what is

working well around helping people

2:54:452:54:49

age well in the future is going to

be really important. That is what we

2:54:492:54:52

want the foundation to do.

Let's

bring in Elizabeth. A former nurse

2:54:522:54:59

and a campaigner. There are cultural

differences, aren't there, in ageing

2:54:592:55:05

that perhaps are underrepresented

and people don't think about them as

2:55:052:55:08

much as other aspects.

That's

absolutely right. I am an example. I

2:55:082:55:13

am 70. I know I don't look it. I was

born in this country and I think

2:55:132:55:18

that surprises people because when

they think of diverse communities

2:55:182:55:21

they think they have come into the

country more recently, so we have to

2:55:212:55:25

remember that and embrace everybody

as they get older, and you would

2:55:252:55:30

like to think services are catered

to their needs. So as we get older,

2:55:302:55:35

we get stuck in our ways and we

would like to think that the health

2:55:352:55:39

service, social services, whatever

do cater for that as well.

We talk

2:55:392:55:44

sometimes positively about people

ageing and sometimes there are

2:55:442:55:47

concerns also.

That's right. I have

been diagnosed with osteoarthritis.

2:55:472:55:53

It brings it home to you that there

are physical aspects but also

2:55:532:55:58

emotional aspects. Loneliness is an

issue for anybody, but I'm

2:55:582:56:02

particularly interested in those who

have come from overseas who cannot

2:56:022:56:06

afford to go back or physically

unable to go back to their mother

2:56:062:56:10

countries, if you like. Therefore

isolation can be particularly bad

2:56:102:56:13

for them, but it does affect lots

and lots of people, unfortunately.

2:56:132:56:20

We will talk loneliness in a few

moments. Last word to Terry. Keeping

2:56:202:56:24

yourself busy, that the trick? We

can see some shots of the site now

2:56:242:56:29

to give us an idea of where we are.

There is as much to do or as little

2:56:292:56:34

to do. We doing courage people,

whether it is a slow walk up to the

2:56:342:56:39

shop or go and do a ten K run, but

we have a nice golf course, lots of

2:56:392:56:47

outside facilities, and indoor line

dancing and an amateur dramatics

2:56:472:56:55

society that comes on, or you can

sit in a corner and have a game of

2:56:552:56:59

cards.

Something for everyone. We

try to encourage people to do a bit

2:56:592:57:05

of exercise. Just to be physically

active.

If you're going to live

2:57:052:57:09

somewhere, you might as well live

here. Something for everybody.

2:57:092:57:13

Talking about physical activity for

prompting me to make this seamless

2:57:132:57:17

link. It was one of the questions we

asked a group of 70-year-olds, born

2:57:172:57:23

in 1947, and we asked them what life

is like for them these days and this

2:57:232:57:27

is what they told us.

2:57:272:57:29

We've gathered a group of

septuagenarians from across the UK

2:57:292:57:31

to deliberate, cogitate

and celebrate life at 70.

2:57:312:57:37

Here at the Hawth Theatre

in Crawley, a town also born

2:57:372:57:40

in 1947, it's panto season

and behind us is the set

2:57:402:57:48

for Snow White and

the Seven Dwarves.

2:57:482:57:50

So the first question

is about going off to work.

2:57:502:57:53

How many of you here

are still working?

2:57:532:57:54

Workers over there please.

2:57:542:57:55

People either retired or not working

over on that side please.

2:57:552:57:59

In our group, 28% still work.

2:57:592:58:02

This isn't a scientific survey,

of course, but in 2005 the national

2:58:022:58:05

figure was less than 5%.

2:58:052:58:08

So you've gone back to work?

2:58:082:58:13

Yes, because I wanted

to keep my brain going and I wanted

2:58:132:58:17

to give back actually all that

I have learnt in 70 years.

2:58:172:58:20

Going well?

2:58:202:58:23

Love it, love it.

2:58:232:58:25

I'm now do things I want to do

rather than things I have to do.

2:58:252:58:28

I work in the film industry.

2:58:282:58:29

Look-a-like.

2:58:292:58:32

A lot of people think I looked

like Robert De Niro.

2:58:322:58:35

I was going to say Robert De Niro.

2:58:352:58:37

You talkin' to me?

2:58:372:58:39

How many of you are active

at least once a week,

2:58:392:58:43

we're talking about a brisk walk,

maybe even jogging.

2:58:432:58:45

78% say they exercise.

2:58:452:58:46

I'm still competing in triathlons.

2:58:462:58:48

Wow!

2:58:482:58:52

I do aqua aerobics, three sessions.

2:58:522:58:55

Yoga.

2:58:552:58:58

Pilates, tai chi and tennis.

2:58:582:59:04

No, I have never been

interested in sport.

2:59:042:59:08

I rely on genetics,

all my family died old,

2:59:082:59:10

didn't like sport,

so I'm depending on that.

2:59:102:59:12

How many of you feel financially

stable as a 70-year-old?

2:59:132:59:17

88% were happy with their finances,

better of than younger generations.

2:59:182:59:21

My husband and I when we retired

sold our house, sold our home

2:59:272:59:30

at the height of the property boom

and invested the money.

2:59:302:59:33

Our generation, people that did

own property have done well on it

2:59:332:59:36

with house prices,

unlike the younger generation,

2:59:362:59:38

who are now struggling.

2:59:382:59:44

I have to watch my pennies and be

careful what I do

2:59:442:59:47

and can't go on expensive holidays.

2:59:472:59:51

There's no way I would think

we were poor

2:59:512:59:55

or struggling in any way,

2:59:552:59:56

but neither are we rich.

2:59:562:59:58

And still working, still

touring at 70 is Kiki Dee.

2:59:583:00:00

I think we're all trucking on really

for various reasons,

3:00:003:00:02

to make a living, working people,

to keep yourself active in the world

3:00:023:00:05

if you like, so I think it's a great

time to be 70 actually.

3:00:053:00:15

So, some fascinating views,

stories and a real insight I think

3:00:153:00:24

into what it feels like to be 70

years old in this day and age,

3:00:243:00:27

but there's one thing I've

definitely learned and that is 70

3:00:273:00:30

is the new...

3:00:303:00:31

ALL: 40!

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They are a happy bunch, but not

everybody is in that boat, thank you

3:00:353:00:42

very much joining us, the both of

you, we have talked a little bit

3:00:423:00:46

about loneliness, it is a real

problem.

Yes, and lots of people are

3:00:463:00:51

happy and continue to contribute in

old age but there is a lot of

3:00:513:00:56

barriers you can say is, naturally,

what a lot of your friends may die,

3:00:563:00:59

your partner may die, you suffer

bereavement, you may also become a

3:00:593:01:04

carer, that can cut you off, and you

may suffer things like losing your

3:01:043:01:08

site, your hearing, being less

mobile. There is quite a lot of

3:01:083:01:13

barriers to continue to take part in

society, sometimes that can mean

3:01:133:01:16

people lose confidence and it

becomes easier to say no then to say

3:01:163:01:21

yes, to go out and about. But, we

can support people to stay

3:01:213:01:26

connected. There are lots of ways to

keep people involved in the

3:01:263:01:31

community, learn new skills, and

keep busy.

Is that something that

3:01:313:01:35

needs to be done individually? With

families?

The government?

3:01:353:01:41

Communities? It would be best if it

was bottom-up, families, upwards and

3:01:413:01:46

outwards, but it is not always

possible to do it that way and some

3:01:463:01:50

families are rather negligent about

their older relatives. So, I think

3:01:503:01:54

it has got to come from every

direction. And also, it is difficult

3:01:543:01:59

to find people who are lonely

because by definition, they are

3:01:593:02:02

isolated. Self isolating. So, it is

a big problem, and also, with people

3:02:023:02:11

being encouraged to live

independently, and not necessarily

3:02:113:02:16

go to sheltered housing or care

homes, loneliness is a sort of built

3:02:163:02:22

in threat, if you like, built in

risk, and the other thing is, I feel

3:02:223:02:27

very strongly about this, when

people get older, it is a dangerous

3:02:273:02:32

strategy to move away from where you

live before. Where you have friends,

3:02:323:02:38

you have known people in the local

shops, etc. So, stay rooted.

Social

3:02:383:02:46

mobility, of course, can be a

positive factor, can be a negative

3:02:463:02:49

factor, bridging those ideas about

creating community is what we do

3:02:493:02:53

here. Josie, you have had quite the

colourful life! Lets face it, what

3:02:533:03:00

did you used to do.

I was a trapeze

artist, I worked at a fire

3:03:003:03:05

station...

We should probably dwell

on that, you were what?

A fire

3:03:053:03:12

eater! No, not fire station, fire

eater, and I danced with a snake...

3:03:123:03:17

Danced on glass...

What! LAUGHTER

But you keep yourself busy these

3:03:173:03:22

days, snakes...?

No, I do hobbies. I

make jewellery. I make jewellery for

3:03:223:03:31

other people.

And you are wearing it

now. We have had that most of the

3:03:313:03:40

morning. They tell me that you are

the busiest person in the village,

3:03:403:03:43

what do you do? You have Oscar with

you.

I like to keep busy, when you

3:03:433:03:49

are older, it is important to be

busy and make sure you are a happy

3:03:493:03:52

person. I play bowls, I do line

dancing, I have two allotments...

3:03:523:04:02

And I have Oscar. Long-distance

walking.

I want to leave the last

3:04:023:04:10

word, I hope you will give me just a

little bit more time because I want

3:04:103:04:13

to introduce you finally, to Frida.

Very ungentlemanly question, but do

3:04:133:04:19

you mind me asking your age?

I'm

204! Actually, I am 104.

And you

3:04:193:04:30

keep yourself busy.

Well, I lay in

bed, and everything is done for

3:04:303:04:42

me... Get a pile of papers, put them

in bundles of six, all the same

3:04:423:04:55

thickness, recycle, I like to

recycle... So much is done for me, I

3:04:553:04:58

like to do the recycling.

What is

the secret to your longevity and

3:04:583:05:03

long life?

Stubbornness!

LAUGHTER

We have had a wonderful morning

3:05:033:05:14

here, busy, eclectic, and life

affirming. Back to you in the

3:05:143:05:18

studio.

3:05:183:05:19

Thank you so much for taking is rare

to see so many lovely people. 104

3:05:233:05:27

years old! Incredible... 104, we are

eclectic here on breakfast, we have

3:05:273:05:34

a 24-year-old coming in next.

3:05:343:05:37

Stormzy will be here

when we get back.

3:05:373:05:39

First a last, brief look

at the headlines where

3:05:393:07:14

We will have showers and sleet and

top temperature of six Celsius.

3:07:143:07:14

I hope that you can join us for the

lunchtime news. Goodbye.

3:07:153:07:21

Be careful what you eat... Just

before you come in for the

3:07:283:07:31

interview... Delighted to say that

Stormzy is with us...

Getting peanut

3:07:313:07:38

butter in my teeth!

Do you have a

ritual of things you do or do not

3:07:383:07:42

eat or drink just before?

I try not

to have junk food, to close, because

3:07:423:07:48

I would run around and jump around

on stage, if I have too much food in

3:07:483:07:53

me... I'm not agile enough!

A couple

of things I have learned about you

3:07:533:07:57

already, today is the first day in

your life you have tasted peanut

3:07:573:08:00

butter...

Yes! Well... First time in

recent years, I should say.

And, as

3:08:003:08:07

a rapper, peanut butter, and

wrapping, never go together.

3:08:073:08:12

Never...

Not a good mix. We have

helped you.

Thank you very much!

We

3:08:123:08:18

will give you a moment to recover,

while we have a look at some of your

3:08:183:08:22

biggest hits.

3:08:223:08:24

You were not joking about jumping

about! At all! Amazing year for

3:09:143:09:18

you... You have had a water... Three

Mobos, GQ solo artist of the year,

3:09:183:09:27

Best solo artist from Q... People

are loving you.

It has been a good

3:09:273:09:35

year, probably the most defining

year of my career... Not to say

3:09:353:09:40

that... I mean, I have been here

four years and years, but in the

3:09:403:09:47

short time I have been here, so big.

I have finally released an album, as

3:09:473:09:53

an artist, that is the backbone,

bodies of work. I finally released

3:09:533:09:57

an album. I feel like I have done

all that I can to spread myself and.

3:09:573:10:03

My music.

I have a vivid memory of

you sitting on this over once

3:10:033:10:12

before, at that point in time, there

was a bit of you in your head

3:10:123:10:16

saying, what am I doing here... --

sofa. You were on the BBC breakfast

3:10:163:10:20

sofa and you know what I'm saying,

how have tried to balance up the

3:10:203:10:24

street cred you have, and that is

probably a "naff" phrase in itself,

3:10:243:10:32

to branching out to people...

LAUGHTER

3:10:323:10:35

With me, I have always just tried to

tell my truth.

I have tried to be as

3:10:353:10:40

true to myself as possible. I don't

know, somehow that has managed to...

3:10:403:10:45

I don't know, I will come on the

show, and I will still be able to do

3:10:453:10:51

other things, still freestyle... I

have always said, as long as I live

3:10:513:10:56

in my own truth, I will be all

right.

What about your... Fans who

3:10:563:11:00

have followed youth for years, who

say that you are now too mainstream,

3:11:003:11:06

you have left us, because there is

that criticism.

Do you know what,

3:11:063:11:13

with me, I am an artist, even with

my album, when you listen to it, you

3:11:133:11:17

can tell that I may have taken a bit

of a risk in terms of sounds, and

3:11:173:11:24

some of the music on the album,

because it is not 100% pure grime.

3:11:243:11:31

There is loads of other flavours

there as well.

3:11:313:11:43

I never pretend to be an expert in

your music but that feels like it is

3:12:013:12:05

quite different.

Very different, and

you know what it is, I am someone,

3:12:053:12:11

before I started making music, I

grew up on grime, older UK MCs, and

3:12:113:12:24

also R'n'B and gospel, and a whole

load of different things, when I was

3:12:243:12:29

coming into music, there was a whole

side of me that I was not shopping

3:12:293:12:35

my tools... I was not using that

muscle... When I made my album, I

3:12:353:12:39

said, this is the perfect chance for

me to be as true to myself as an

3:12:393:12:45

artist as possible. I will make a

whole track about me being the best

3:12:453:12:49

MC, I am this and I am back, but

also, I should have the confidence

3:12:493:12:53

and the creative licence to also

make a track about my faith in God,

3:12:533:12:57

and my mother...

Christmas, Hugh

Jackman was telling us about

3:12:573:13:02

Christmas at home with the family,

what about you...

It is my mother,

3:13:023:13:08

she is the life of the party on

Christmas Day! I have quite a small

3:13:083:13:13

close family, me, my sister, my

sister, my little brother.

What

3:13:133:13:19

about presence?

Christmas Eve! That

is my day to hit the road and try to

3:13:193:13:26

get presents!

-- presents.

Thank you

the joining of.

Your new single, we

3:13:263:13:34

just saw a bit of that, Blinded by

Your Grace, Pt. Two.

We will say

3:13:343:13:39

goodbye in a moment.

Will you say

goodbye for us? Hand over.

What is

3:13:393:13:45

the next programme? Now it is time

for... This is a bit... People will

3:13:453:13:51

be so confused when they tune in to

BBC breakfast and they see my big

3:13:513:13:55

face about

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