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Hello, this is Breakfast,

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with Charlie Stayt and Naga

Munchetty.

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Scotland Yard launches a review

of all its sex crime

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investigations after the collapse

of two rape prosecutions

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in one week.

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The Metropolitan Police

confirms the same detective

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was involved in both cases

and begins re-examining the way

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it handles evidence.

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Good morning, it's Wednesday

the 20th of December.

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Also this morning:

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The start of a 20-year jail sentence

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for the man who threw acid

across a packed London nightclub

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injuring 22 people.

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Victims told the court

how his actions have

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changed their lives.

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It's just very hard to deal with,

you just try and carry on like

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normal because I know I'm never

going to be the same girl that,

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like, walked into Mangle that night.

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More than 9,000 people are sleeping

rough on the streets of England.

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MPs describe the situation

as a national crisis.

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It's been quite the year

for the airlines industry,

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with strikes and

businesses going bust.

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This morning I'm looking

at whether passengers' rights

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are protected enough

when things go wrong.

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In sport, Bravo for Manchester City,

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the keeper saves the penalty that

takes them into the semi-finals

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of the League Cup.

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And Carol has the weather.

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Could singing help mums combat

post-natal depression?

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New research suggests it

could be an effective

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alternative to medicine.

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And Carol has the weather.

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Good morning from the roof of New

Broadcasting House in London, where

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it's fairly drizzly. The forecast

for many today is cloudy, some fog,

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especially in the south, which is

dense and a weather front in

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Scotland and Northern Ireland

producing some rain as it continues

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to sink south. But behind that,

brighter skies Mawae. More details,

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though, in 15 minutes -- brighter

skies on the way.

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Good morning.

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First, our main story.

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The Metropolitan Police is launching

a review of all its current sex

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offence investigations

after the collapse of a second rape

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case in a week.

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Scotland Yard says

that in both cases,

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the same officer failed to disclose

evidence useful to the defence

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during the early

stages of the inquiry.

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Our reporter Keith Doyle has more.

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The rape case against 22-year-old

Liam Allen collapsed last week after

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it emerged Baikal evidence that

helped his case had not been

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released by the prosecution. For two

years he faced a trial that ended

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only after thousands of texts the

prosecution had from his accuser

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were finally disclosed.

No one was

really investigating, how can we

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show he was innocent? People were

investigating, how can we prove he's

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guilty instead and maybe that was

what was wrong.

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Under the British legal system the

prosecution must hand over any

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evidence it holds that may help a

person on trial. Now a second case,

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that of 22-year-old Isaac, who was

charged with rape and other sexual

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offences, has collapsed for similar

reasons. As a result Scotland Yard

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has said it's reviewing every

current sex crime case. In a

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statement it said:

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It's also emerged that the same

detective is involved in both cases

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and is still working on full duty in

the Met's sexual offences

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investigation unit. It's not known

exactly how many cases are being

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reviewed. Keith Doyle, BBC News.

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A man who threw acid over people in

a crowded nightclub in London in

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April has been jailed for 20 years.

25-year-old Arthur Collins injured

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22 people at the venue in east

London. The judge called his actions

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deliberate and calculated. Some of

the victims were temporarily

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blinded, others were left with

permanent scars. Tom Burrage

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reports.

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Acid hurled across a

crowded dance floor.

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Look closer on the CCTV and you can

see Arthur Collins' arm throwing

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the liquid a second

and a third time.

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Young people, like Lauren Trent,

suffered severe burns

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and scars for life.

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I think that night I just

remembered the sheer panic.

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The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

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The smell, the smell

of the chemicals

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and your skin blistering,

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and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

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I remember looking at the police

officers and the people around us at

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the time when they arrived. Was

almost, like, disbelief that

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something like this had happened in

a nightclub.

Collins had caused

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severe burns to 14 people. His

actions in the Mangle nightclub has

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caused physical and mental scars.

When you are out and someone

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splashes a drink on you it causes

problems. I know I will never be the

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girl that went into Mangle Matt

Knight.

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Earlier that evening Collins argued

with two of his victims, but the

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judge said his indiscriminate

attack, which affected so many young

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people, was unprovoked. He sentenced

him to 20 years.

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It sends out the right message that

it will not be tolerated, it will

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not be tolerated by the criminal

justice system. Anyone carrying acid

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needs to look at the offence and be

aware that a strong sentence will be

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passed.

Collins showed no Morse in court for

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what was described as despicable

act. -- remorse. One of his victims

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said her old life had been taken

from her on that night. Tom

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Burridge, BBC News.

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The government is being accused

of abject failure in its attempt

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to tackle homelessness in England.

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A damning report by

the all-party Public Accounts

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Committee says the issue has

become a national crisis.

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However, the government says it's

investing more than £1 billion

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pounds to reduce homelessness

and rough sleeping, alongside

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new legislation to ensure people get

support more quickly.

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Andy Moore reports.

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This report says the problem of

homelessness has been growing for

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years, with a number of people in

short-term accommodation up by 60%

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since 2010. The MPs say there is an

unacceptable shortage of realistic

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housing options. There are estimated

to be 9000 people sleeping rough on

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the streets every night, that's more

than doubled the number in 2011.

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There are a further 78,000 families

living in temporary accommodation,

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often of a poor standard, and that

includes 120,000 children. The

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committee has described the

situation as shameful. It's called

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on the government to focus on the

supply and affordability of decent

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housing.

You need to stop being

complacent about this. It is not

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enough also to just throw money at

it, it needs to be money that is

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fixing the core root of the problem,

that looks at why people are

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homeless in the first place.

Critically you need to be building

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more houses, yes, but they need to

be truly affordable houses.

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The committee now wants the

government to come up with a

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strategy for tackling the issue by

the middle of next year. Labour said

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this report showed the Conservatives

had caused the crisis of rapidly

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rising homelessness but had no plans

to fix it. The government said

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homelessness was a complex problem

and it was providing over £1 billion

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over the next few years to help deal

with the issue. Andy Moore, BBC

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News.

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Police will continue

searching two properties,

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including a community centre,

this morning, following anti-terror

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raids in Sheffield and Chesterfield.

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four men have been arrested and held

over an alleged Islamist

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terror plot that officers say

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could have been carried out this

Christmas.

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People forced to evacuate

their homes to allow the bomb squad

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to investigate have now

been allowed to return.

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Local authorities in England will be

able to increase council tax by just

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under 6% next year

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without triggering a local

referendum.

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The move would add about £95

to the average annual bill

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for a Band D property.

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Currently a raise of 5% or more must

be put to local voters.

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Ministers say it will ease

pressure on local services.

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The Local Government Association

says councils will still be

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at financial breaking point.

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The BBC is to broaden its coverage

of religions, devoting more time

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to non-Christian faiths.

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The decision follows a review

of the corporation's output

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in response to claims it was out

of step with its audience.

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Here's more from our media

correspondent, David Sillito.

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For some it's the best part of the

BBC's output but new research has

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also shown the traditional religious

programmes are, for large parts of

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the audience, Ernest, worthy and a

TV turnoff.

Welcome to...

There's

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also concern that too often

religious on TV is reduced to an

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argument or a debate. The once more

stories about real people's lives

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and their faith and less studio

based confrontation.

You going to

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come and see?

Going to be in it

later.

There will be more religion

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reflected in mainstream programming.

It's all part of a review as to how

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the BBC treats religion after

criticism it was out of step with

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its audience.

The latest research suggests the

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long decline in Christianity in the

UK has, over the last few years,

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levelled off. Nearly half of us

believe in life after death, one in

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four believe in angels. The BBC's

says there will be more Christianity

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but also coverage and explanation of

other faiths. The big calendar

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events of the world's main faiths

will get more coverage. Rather than

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being in decline, religion is

actually growing globally. The

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number of people affiliated with a

religion is forecast to increase

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from 84% to 90%. David Sillito, BBC

News.

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The Post Office network is to get

£370 million

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of new funding.

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Almost half of the money will be

used to protect village

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community branches, according

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to the Business Secretary Greg

Clark.

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The three-year funding deal,

which will run from next April,

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comes as the Post Office announced

it had moved into profit

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for the first time in 16 years.

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Pictures emerged of a massive

volcanic eruption in Ecuador.

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They were taken earlier this month

by a British photographer,

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they show the volcano's first major

activity in more than a decade.

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It caused significant damage

to pipelines and a nearby valley,

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but posed no threat to any

local communities.

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That doesn't look real, does it?

Amazing.

Looks like a graphic.

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Obviously the picture is fed up,

Alaba doesn't travel that quickly,

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but still pretty impressive! -- sped

up -- lather.

Magister city, it's

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becoming a theme. Everyday we sit on

the sofa and say another win for

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Manchester City, this time in the

League Cup, which pep wasn't really

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focusing on, he put a second string

of players out and he said he was

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so, so, so, so, so happy that they

won five sos. He wasn't expecting

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it. Phil Foden, who won Young Sports

Personality of the Year on Sunday

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night, he was playing as well,

brilliant performance from him. City

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are through but it took penalties so

a dramatic win.

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Manchester City manager

Pep Guardiola dismissed talk

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of a quadruple of all

three domestic titles

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plus the Champions League,

but they are going well

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in all four, they're

through to the semi-finals

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of the League Cup after beating

Leicester City on penalties.

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Arsenal join City in tonight's draw,

after beating West Ham 1-0.

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Danny Wellbeck the scorer.

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Five-time champion Raymond van

Barneveld is into the second

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round of the PDC World Darts

Championship after beating former

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bricklayer Richard North 3-0

at Alexandra Palace.

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And Marion Bartoli has

announced her return to tennis.

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She retired straight after winning

Wimbledon four years ago but says

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she'll be back for the

Miami Open in March.

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I mean, that is my favourite story

of the morning. Favourite story of

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the week I think, Marion Bartoli,

she won Wimbledon and everyone said

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this is brilliant, maybe she will

win more grand slams. She said she

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would stop there and I can't do any

better, but four years later she

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wants to carry on.

Whenever we have

spoken to her she seems so lovely.

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Such a smiley, bubbly, bonkers

person. So lovely!

The year of the

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comeback in women's tennis!

Who

else?

Serena Williams.

Of course

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Arena is back!

Thank you! We will

look at the papers in a moment but

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first, Carol with the weather. Who

did you upset to be put on that

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rainy Ruth?

I was beginning to

wonder that myself!

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It is fairly drizzly here. This

morning it was quite mild. There

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were one or two exceptions. One

thing to watch out for is fog. Some

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of that is dance. More all less the

forecast is a cloudy one and a mild

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one. That is certainly how we are

starting off. We have a weather

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front crossing Scotland and Northern

Ireland producing cloud and rain and

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through the day it will move into

northern England and northern Wales

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as a weakening feature. In the east

there will not be much rain at all.

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So ahead of the weather front as you

can see on the charts there is a lot

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of cloud, it will break and the

fault will lift into the hills and

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then we will see some brightness

coming in. -- fog. For most it will

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be cloudy and grey. Behind that in

Scotland it will brighten up.

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Showers in the north and west. It

will be breezy with highs of 90

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degrees. South, we run into the

weather front of us northern England

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and the -- nine degrees. The east of

England will see something brighter

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at times. From the Midlands to the

south coast there is a fair bit of

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cloud around. One or two brighter

breaks here and there and still in

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the mild category. We are into

double figures. Across Wales, South

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Wales will see something drier, and

north Wales has a weather front,

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which is sinking south through the

day. By then it will be out of

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Northern Ireland and back into

bright skies with some sunny spells.

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It will feel a bit cooler. Through

this evening and overnight weather

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front moves south, and you can see

it here on the chart. At the end of

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the night it will turn around at it.

In the north-east. So tomorrow

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morning we will have an across the

south-east, heading up to Northern

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Ireland, England and moving into

southern Scotland. It is a cool

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night before it, not as cold behind

it, and where we have breaks, there

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will be some fog. Through the day

the weather front will continue to

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move north-east, taking cloud and

ran with it. Some bright skies

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potentially for a moment across the

north-east. And then behind the

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weather front we have bright skies

returned to parts of the south-west

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and the Midlands, for example, with

the occasional glimmer of sunshine.

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On Friday, high pressure is across

us, so it is more settled and much

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more dry. There will be showers in

the west. The Channel Islands will

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have outbreaks of rain. Windy in the

north and temperatures not too

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shabby for the time

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north and temperatures not too

shabby for the time of year. As we

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leap into the Christmas period, it

looks like it will become a little

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more unsettled. But somewhere in the

UK on Christmas Day you might see

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some snow and you won't be surprised

to hear it is probably going to be

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in Scotland.

As long as it stays

there, we will be grateful.

We

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certainly will. We are going to have

a look through some of the papers.

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Steph and Cat with us now. Sorry,

good morning. It is lovely to see

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you. The front pages first. The

front of the Times, the lead story,

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the investigation of the Met Police,

they say that they will look at all

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current rape and sex abuse cases

because of the collapsed abuse cases

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in one week and we will talk on that

this morning.

The front of the Sun,

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Christmas terror foil. Four people

arrested in an operation. Police say

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this could have happened around

Christmas time. Arrests were made

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and people were held in Sheffield

and Chesterfield in Derbyshire.

That

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is on the front of some of the

papers, and the Mirror as well. On

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the fun of the Daily Mail, potential

rises in council tax bills. And you

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can see the figures. Millions of

families facing rises.

And two

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stories on Breakfast, the Met Police

will review rape cases after a trial

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error, so we have had two in one

week. Scores of sexual assault cases

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will be reviewed after the end has

led to the collapse of a second

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case. And also the picture you have

seen here is the man, Arthur

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Collins, who in a London nightclub

carry out an asset attack, injuring

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22 people -- acid attack. A clear

mark on how people view the acid

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attacks in the course at the moment.

I know that you talk about T'r'Us,

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so there is analysis of that --

Toys'R'Us MPs are demanding an

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explanation as to why the retailer,

which has been struggling for some

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time, handed a pay increase to the

bosses over those years despite

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falling sales and growing losses. So

the working pensions committee wrote

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to the boss to ask what is going on.

And just in case you're wondering

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what is happening, since it was

announced, well, are in talks, so

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they are locked intense negotiations

to try to work out what it will mean

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for the stores and also the 3200

people who work there.

And what

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about the business itself? People

might have bought things.

No, when

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it goes into administration it is

run as a business. Behind the scenes

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that they are working out whether

the stores will close or not and

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whether it will continue.

Lots in

the Telegraph today, breaking late

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on Monday night about Justin

Gatlin's former coach and an

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athletics agent...

Sorry to

interrupt. Yesterday it was the

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front page of the Telegraph.

It is a

massive story with the potential to

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get even bigger because of questions

being asked, if you are Gatlin, why

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have someone who has tested positive

to coach you. Gatlin says he has not

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been taking any banned substances.

And I think both the coach and the

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agent denied the charges as well.

The story today has moved on to say

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lots of people are coming out,

including Darren Campbell, Olympic

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gold-medallist, and Tony Miniccelo,

saying it should not be the

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athletes, people should look at the

agents and coaches as well, the

0:20:100:20:14

people getting the drugs to the

athletes -- Toni Minichiello. And

0:20:140:20:20

Dennis Mitchell served a doping ban

in the 1990s. Why was he allowed to

0:20:200:20:25

get into a position where he is

coaching?

It is something that

0:20:250:20:30

confounds people. If you have been

found guilty you can still be in the

0:20:300:20:36

sport. How can that remain the case?

There are questions about Justin

0:20:360:20:41

Gatlin. He served two doping bans,

one for taking ADHD medication,

0:20:410:20:46

which he says he suffers from ADHD,

and that was why he had that. There

0:20:460:20:52

are always questions over exactly

why athletes have a reason why they

0:20:520:20:58

have been taking the drug. Talking

about Maria Sharapova. She says she

0:20:580:21:02

has a heart problem and that is why

she took those drugs.

It is not

0:21:020:21:07

straightforward. It is guaranteed to

white

0:21:070:21:11

straightforward. It is guaranteed to

wind people up. £16,000 a day in

0:21:110:21:18

fines in its first week and do you

want to know where it is?

Yes.

0:21:180:21:24

Lancashire, 164 yards of road has

seen 19,200 drivers caught in seven

0:21:240:21:29

days since it started operating. So

you have an automatic £60 fine, £30

0:21:290:21:35

if you pay it early. It is a lot of

money.

This is the problem. People

0:21:350:21:43

need to get into the left-hand lane.

So they are going in early and not

0:21:430:21:47

realising.

164 yards of bus lane.

On

the upside, Lancashire was ordered

0:21:470:21:56

to switch off cameras on a section

in their borough after two months

0:21:560:22:01

and everyone who was fined got their

money back.

That is the talking

0:22:010:22:06

point, it will be a talking point

this morning. If you have a bus lane

0:22:060:22:10

that you think is pointless, or if

you have had a fine that you have

0:22:100:22:14

got back, because people like

winning those appeals. Thank you.

0:22:140:22:17

Even the most reluctant singer

probably knows some nursery rhymes

0:22:170:22:20

and lullabies, and it's long been

thought music has a calming

0:22:200:22:23

effect on babies.

0:22:230:22:24

Now, research suggests it's not only

children who benefit,

0:22:240:22:26

their parents do, too,

and it could even be an effective

0:22:260:22:29

way of treating

post-natal depression.

0:22:290:22:31

Breakfast's Jayne McCubbin has

been finding out more.

0:22:310:22:39

This kind of moment is being shared

by more and more mums and babies but

0:22:390:22:43

today we can reveal research which

shows this isn't just fun, it could

0:22:430:22:47

provide fundamental help for a

problem that affects one in eight

0:22:470:22:52

mothers. Like native and baby

either. Like Claire and Elsie. Like

0:22:520:22:58

Cecilia and Boadicea.

I never blamed

him. He is amazing. He is wonderful.

0:22:580:23:05

But motherhood. If you are -- you

feel shocking.

Feel guilty, and it

0:23:050:23:16

is meant to be a happy time.

Sitting

on the sofa in the evening and you

0:23:160:23:21

are still like, what am I going to

do? High alert. Everyone is like,

0:23:210:23:27

relax, do something you enjoy and I

can't do that. That doesn't help me

0:23:270:23:31

relax because I have severe anxiety.

These women are part of a singing

0:23:310:23:36

group in London studied by

academics. Mums who had experienced

0:23:360:23:42

post-natal depression and baby

blues. They discovered singing

0:23:420:23:45

really helps.

We've taken 150

mothers with symptoms of post-natal

0:23:450:23:51

depression and randomised them into

ten weeks of social groups, social

0:23:510:23:55

care or singing groups and those in

the social singing groups had

0:23:550:23:59

significantly faster improvements in

post-natal depression across the ten

0:23:590:24:02

weeks. And in fact three quarters of

them had recovered from their

0:24:020:24:06

symptoms why the end of the 10-week

project and this was about one month

0:24:060:24:10

earlier than either of the other two

groups.

A more intense -- the more

0:24:100:24:14

intense the symptoms, the more

intense the impact. Singing made

0:24:140:24:19

recovery faster.

You don't have to

think about anything but singing and

0:24:190:24:23

cuddling your baby and having fun.

You know you are in a bad moment

0:24:230:24:27

together. You don't have to be like,

how bad is your moment and your

0:24:270:24:31

moment, you are just singing

communally together so it is really

0:24:310:24:34

nice.

Would you recommend it?

100%.

I got a little kick.

I hope you

0:24:340:24:40

enjoy singing today.

It is an

endorsement they are happy to share

0:24:400:24:45

in Bristol at the Womb Sisters

singing group. They are singing in

0:24:450:24:52

the knowledge that babies can hear

in the womb from 15 weeks.

When the

0:24:520:24:55

baby is born they recognised a song

and they respond to it.

There is a

0:24:550:25:00

comfort.

Yes. It is a really nice

way to connect.

These are the songs

0:25:000:25:03

you will sing when she is born.

If I

can remember.

Of course you will.

0:25:030:25:08

For mothers struggling after birth,

medication isn't always welcome.

0:25:080:25:13

Talking therapies take-up rate is

very low, so the findings that this

0:25:130:25:17

could take up in the most serious

cases is all the more important.

0:25:170:25:23

Real help that could not be simpler.

It doesn't matter if you are a good

0:25:230:25:27

or a bad thing at all it is just

literally about finding a way to

0:25:270:25:31

communicate. I have made up loads

and loads of songs just everyday

0:25:310:25:35

stuff. I have a song about changing

his nappy that my mum thinks is a

0:25:350:25:40

little bit rude.

Can you share? ,

on.

# Mr Poo Pants, he did a poo and

0:25:400:25:57

he wears pants. It doesn't matter

what you seem all way you sing it,

0:25:570:26:01

singing helps you to bond and helps

mums feel. Everyone should do it.

0:26:010:26:05

Yes. Thank you for sharing.

0:26:050:26:08

That is something to share on

national TV.

Very brave. Why not.

I

0:26:080:26:13

like that song. There is loads

coming up on the programme this

0:26:130:26:18

morning.

0:26:180:26:18

You're watching Breakfast.

0:26:180:26:19

Still to come this morning:

Christmas dog jumpers,

0:26:190:26:21

paw-secco and turkey dinners -

we'll be finding out how the UK's

0:26:210:26:25

pampered pet market has turned

into seriously big business.

0:26:250:26:29

Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are.

0:26:290:29:49

will reach 12 Celsius. Nine

timetable to is as well way above

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zero.

0:29:520:29:52

Not a white Christmas.

0:29:520:29:53

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

0:29:530:29:56

in half an hour.

0:29:560:29:58

Hello, this is Breakfast,

0:29:580:29:59

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

Munchetty.

0:29:590:30:01

We'll bring you all the latest news

and sport in a moment,

0:30:010:30:04

but also on Breakfast this morning:

0:30:040:30:07

As Arthur Collins starts a 20-year

jail sentence for this horrific

0:30:070:30:10

nightclub attack, we'll be asking

why acid crimes are on the rise.

0:30:100:30:15

New mums and dads are entitled

to share parental leave now,

0:30:150:30:21

but when it comes to pay,

the dads lag well behind.

0:30:210:30:23

We'll be asking if it's time to make

sure parents get equal pay

0:30:230:30:27

for staying at home with their baby.

0:30:270:30:30

It's Christmas in the nation's

favourite corner shop.

0:30:300:30:33

Yes, Still Open All Hours is back

for a festive special.

0:30:330:30:36

We'll be talking to two

of the cast just after 9am.

0:30:360:30:41

Good morning,

here's a summary of this morning's

0:30:410:30:43

main stories from BBC News.

0:30:430:30:47

The Metropolitan police is launching

a review of all current sex offence

0:30:470:30:52

investigation is after the collapse

of a second rape case in a week.

0:30:520:30:55

The prosecutions were halted

because of the late

0:30:550:30:57

disclosure of evidence.

0:30:570:30:58

Scotland Yard confirmed the same

officer was involved

0:30:580:31:00

in both investigations.

0:31:000:31:01

Our reporter Keith Doyle has more.

0:31:010:31:06

The rape case against 22-year-old

Liam Allen collapsed last week

0:31:060:31:08

after it emerged vital evidence that

helped his case had not been

0:31:080:31:12

released by the prosecution.

0:31:120:31:15

For two years he'd faced a trial

that ended only after thousands

0:31:150:31:19

of texts

the prosecution had from his accuser

0:31:190:31:21

were finally disclosed.

0:31:210:31:23

No one was really investigating,

how can we show he was innocent?

0:31:230:31:27

People were investigating,

how can we prove he's guilty instead

0:31:270:31:29

and maybe that was what was wrong.

0:31:290:31:34

Under the British legal system

the prosecution must hand over any

0:31:340:31:37

evidence it holds that may

help a person on trial.

0:31:370:31:40

Now a second case, that

of 22-year-old Isaac Itiary,

0:31:400:31:42

who was charged with rape

and other sexual offences,

0:31:420:31:45

has collapsed for similar reasons.

0:31:450:31:56

As a result Scotland Yard has said

it's reviewing every current

0:31:560:31:59

sex crime case.

0:31:590:31:59

In a statement it said:

0:31:590:32:01

It's also

emerged that the same detective

0:32:120:32:15

is involved in both cases

and is still working on full duty

0:32:150:32:21

in the Met's Sexual Offences

Investigation Unit.

0:32:210:32:23

It's not known exactly how many

cases are being reviewed.

0:32:230:32:26

Keith Doyle, BBC News.

0:32:260:32:34

A man who threw acid over people in

a crowded nightclub in April has

0:32:340:32:38

been jailed for 20 years. He injured

20 in a venue in east London. The

0:32:380:32:43

judge called his actions deliberate

and calculated. Some victims were

0:32:430:32:47

temporary blinded and others were

left with permanent scars.

0:32:470:32:51

I think that night I just

remember the sheer panic.

0:32:520:32:54

The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

0:32:540:32:57

The smell, the smell

of the chemicals and your skin

0:32:570:32:59

blistering, and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

0:32:590:33:05

I remember looking at the police

officers and the people around us

0:33:050:33:08

at the time when they arrived.

0:33:080:33:10

It was almost like disbelief that

something like this had ever

0:33:100:33:13

happened in a nightclub.

0:33:130:33:17

The government is being accused of

abject failure in its attempt to

0:33:170:33:21

tackle homelessness in England.

0:33:210:33:23

A damning report by

the all-party Public Accounts

0:33:230:33:26

Committee says the issue has

become a national crisis.

0:33:260:33:30

The government says it's investing

more than £1 billion

0:33:300:33:32

to help

make more affordable

0:33:320:33:34

housing available.

0:33:340:33:39

You need to stop being

complacent about this.

0:33:390:33:41

It is not enough also

to just throw money at it,

0:33:410:33:44

it needs to be money that is fixing

the core root of the problem,

0:33:440:33:48

that looks at why people

are homeless in the first place.

0:33:480:33:50

Critically you need to be

building more houses,

0:33:500:33:53

yes, but they need to be

truly affordable houses.

0:33:530:33:55

Police will continue searching to

properties including a community

0:33:550:33:58

centre this morning after anti-

terror raids in Sheffield and

0:33:580:34:00

Chester. Four men have been arrested

and held over an alleged Islamist

0:34:000:34:05

terror plot that could have been

carried out this Christmas. People

0:34:050:34:09

had to evacuate their homes to allow

the bomb squad to investigate and

0:34:090:34:13

they have been allowed to return.

0:34:130:34:14

Local authorities...

0:34:140:34:20

are to be allowed to raise

council tax by up to 6%

0:34:200:34:23

next year after a further relaxation

of the government-imposed

0:34:230:34:25

cap to address shortfalls

in funding for social care.

0:34:250:34:34

Families across the UK could see

bills rising by up to £100 a year as

0:34:340:34:39

a result. The Local Government

Association says councils will still

0:34:390:34:43

be at financial breaking point.

0:34:430:34:47

The European Court of Justice is due

to decide this morning

0:34:470:34:50

whether the taxi hailing app, Uber,

should legally be considered

0:34:500:34:52

a transport company

or a digital services provider.

0:34:520:34:54

The ruling will determine

whether the firm should be subject

0:34:540:34:57

to local licensing laws in

the countries in which it operates.

0:34:570:35:02

The Post Office will receive £370

million of new funding and almost

0:35:020:35:07

half the money will be used to

protect village community branches

0:35:070:35:11

according to Business Secretary Greg

Clark. The deal, which runs until

0:35:110:35:16

next April, announces, comes as the

Post Office says it has run into

0:35:160:35:21

profit for the first time in 16

years.

0:35:210:35:23

The BBC has said it will spend more

time looking at Christian faith

0:35:230:35:29

based programming. There will be

more religion reflected in

0:35:290:35:37

mainstream programming.

0:35:370:35:40

These days many motorists

are going green,

0:35:400:35:42

buying electric or hybrid

cars, but how about this

0:35:420:35:45

for going back-to-basics?

0:35:450:35:46

Frank Rothwell has modified

his vehicle so it's

0:35:460:35:48

powered by coal.

0:35:480:35:49

It took him more than 1,000 hours

to perfect and he says it's

0:35:490:35:52

passed its MOT and been

declared legal to drive.

0:35:520:36:14

The emissions from that, it looks

charming, but they would be

0:36:140:36:18

horrendous. And refuelling would be

tricky work.

0:36:180:36:22

Essentially isn't it a steam train

on the road? Except it isn't

0:36:220:36:27

staying, it is coal.

You can't just

burn coal and drive a car.

-- isn't

0:36:270:36:37

steam. I'm not really the expert, I

don't really know. He was just

0:36:370:36:44

shuffling along quite happily in his

coal driven car.

He has made a steam

0:36:440:36:50

train, hasn't he? I don't understand

how that has passed its MOT. More on

0:36:500:36:59

that in the next half an hour. We're

talking about Manchester City, we

0:36:590:37:03

love a bit of hype in sports

journalism, we like to look at these

0:37:030:37:08

teams and say they're the best team

ever and now they're going to go on

0:37:080:37:12

and win the quadruple, all three

domestic titles and the Champions

0:37:120:37:16

League and in the current form

Manchester City are in and with

0:37:160:37:20

these players, nothing is

impossible.

0:37:200:37:21

But Pep said forget about it when

talking about the quadruple.

0:37:210:37:26

Manchester City's magnificent season

continued last night as they reached

0:37:260:37:29

the League Cup semi-finals

with a penalty shootout win

0:37:290:37:31

at Leicester City.

0:37:310:37:39

Jamie Vardy to scored

0:37:390:37:40

a controversial 97th minute penalty

to take the game to extra time.

0:37:400:37:44

But there were no goals

and in the shootout both Vardy

0:37:440:37:47

and Riyadh Mahrez missed.

0:37:470:37:50

The other quarterfinal of the night

saw Arsenal reach the last four

0:37:500:37:54

as they beat West Ham 1-0.

0:37:540:37:55

It was Danny Welbeck with the only

0:37:550:37:57

goal of the game, tapping

home, Mathieu Debuchy's

0:37:570:37:59

header across goal.

0:37:590:38:00

This a trophy Arsene Wenger has

0:38:000:38:02

never won in his 21 years managing

Arsenal.

0:38:020:38:06

Tonight Bristol city are playing

Manchester United and the Bristol

0:38:060:38:12

city manager hopes that the Jose

Mourinho comes by after the game.

0:38:120:38:18

I've got a really expensive bottle

of wine.

I've had to read my little

0:38:180:38:23

girl's Biggie bank. I will be

disappointed if he doesn't turn up

0:38:230:38:32

because you have to pour it

specially. It's that nice!

0:38:320:38:37

Chocolate Orange as well as the

wine! I wonder if he likes a

0:38:370:38:40

chocolate Orange! Everyone does!

0:38:400:38:49

England have lost the Ashes,

and they're 3-0 down

0:38:490:38:54

in the series, it's looking

rather gloomy over in Aus

0:38:540:38:57

but bowler Craig Overton says

he still believes England are not

0:38:570:39:00

far off winning games.

0:39:000:39:01

He's suffering from a cracked a rib,

and remains a major doubt

0:39:010:39:04

for the next test in Melbourne.

0:39:040:39:06

We're still confident we have

competed in this series and we're

0:39:060:39:09

not that far of winning games.

They've just performed for better

0:39:090:39:12

and longer periods than us and we

know what we've got to do in those

0:39:120:39:16

last two games and that's score more

runs and take a few more wickets, as

0:39:160:39:20

simple as that.

0:39:200:39:21

Former Wimbledon champion

Marion Bartoli has come out

0:39:210:39:23

of retirement and announced

she will return to the WTA

0:39:230:39:26

Tour next year.

0:39:260:39:26

Bartoli, who is now 33,

quit tennis in August 2013 less

0:39:260:39:29

than six weeks after winning her

only grand slam title

0:39:290:39:32

at the All England Club,

citing ongoing injury problems.

0:39:320:39:35

The French player, who reached

a career-high world ranking

0:39:350:39:37

of seventh, intends to make her

comeback at the Miami Open in March.

0:39:370:39:42

That is a remarkable story. She was

so ill for a while as well, she

0:39:420:39:46

feared for her life, she had a

virus, she lost loads of weight,

0:39:460:39:50

everyone was asking why she was so

skinny and she said she had this

0:39:500:39:54

terrible illness and now she's going

to be back playing. All she needs to

0:39:540:39:58

do now is win another grand slam and

we'll have another amazing story.

0:39:580:40:04

City with the quadruple and Marion

Bartoli winning grand slams and then

0:40:040:40:07

we can make the film!

0:40:070:40:09

Scared, traumatised and suicidal,

the words used by victims of an acid

0:40:090:40:13

attack at a nightclub in London.

0:40:130:40:14

22 people were injured and many left

with permanent scars.

0:40:140:40:17

Yesterday, the man responsible

was jailed for 20 years.

0:40:170:40:24

Some of the victims

of that nightclub attack

0:40:240:40:26

share their experience.

0:40:260:40:31

I think that night I just

remember the sheer panic.

0:40:310:40:33

The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

0:40:330:40:36

The smell, the smell

of the chemicals and your skin

0:40:360:40:38

blistering, and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

0:40:380:40:41

I remember looking at the police

officers and the people around us

0:40:410:40:42

I consider myself lucky, my scars

may be small to some, they may be

0:40:460:40:50

hidden but they are used to me, they

are something I have to wake up and

0:40:500:40:54

look at everyday in the mirror.

It's

not just my physical appearance,

0:40:540:40:57

that may look OK and it may look

like I'm getting on with life.

0:40:570:41:01

Because I am, I wouldn't want to let

that defeat me.

0:41:010:41:05

When you are out, like,

just a splash of somebody's drink

0:41:050:41:08

on your arm, like, brings the worst

things through your head.

0:41:080:41:11

So it's just very hard to deal

with and try and carry

0:41:110:41:14

on like normal, because I know I'm

never going to be the same girl

0:41:140:41:18

that, like, walked into Mangle that

night, but just trying to get

0:41:180:41:21

as close back to that as possible.

0:41:210:41:32

Joining us from Birmingham now

is Professor James Treadwell,

0:41:320:41:34

a criminologist at

Staffordshire University.

0:41:340:41:35

This sentence is sending a clear

message about how acid attacks are

0:41:350:41:39

seen?

That's the case, it's a

lengthy sentence but when you look

0:41:390:41:43

at the number of victims involved,

the offence is serious, causing

0:41:430:41:48

grievous bodily harm, it is no

surprise in some ways that in this

0:41:480:41:52

case the sentence has been very

high.

Will the sentence have the

0:41:520:41:59

desired effect in terms of making

clear to people that this is not

0:41:590:42:04

acceptable, it's been put up there

in terms of severity with knife

0:42:040:42:07

crime.

Yeah. I think the evidence

for that, though, is a bit more

0:42:070:42:13

questionable. What we tend to know

is deterrent effects are very

0:42:130:42:17

difficult to see when it comes to

sentencing. What tends to have more

0:42:170:42:22

of an effect actually is when people

are caught, detected and the

0:42:220:42:28

offences prosecuted and what we've

seen with acid attacks, and people

0:42:280:42:32

like the acid survivors trust

international shows this, the UK has

0:42:320:42:38

a high number of them and often

they'd only to the offender being

0:42:380:42:42

brought to justice. The offender may

serve as a deterrent to those

0:42:420:42:51

carrying acid, but Arthur Collins

was caught, and prosecuted, but some

0:42:510:42:56

aren't.

As a professor of

criminology you must have seen a

0:42:560:43:01

rise in these attacks and some of

the evidence points to young men

0:43:010:43:06

using these as weapons as part of a

gang, in prisons or in this case,

0:43:060:43:10

generally in anger, someone with a

grudge, why is this?

There's a lot

0:43:100:43:16

of reasons. The concealable to you

and availability of acid, the fact

0:43:160:43:22

offenders are making calculator

choses to move to it rather than

0:43:220:43:25

carrying knives. It's very difficult

to know at the moment because the

0:43:250:43:31

evidence base to understand why that

is very limited. We need more

0:43:310:43:37

research looking at why those

offenders who are using acid are

0:43:370:43:40

using it. And the term acid is very

broad and all-encompassing in some

0:43:400:43:45

ways. To talk offending with

corrosive substances might give us a

0:43:450:43:52

better idea of what types of

substances are being used, how they

0:43:520:43:56

are being obtained, and where the

offenders are making those

0:43:560:43:58

decisions.

I know you have witnessed

this in prisons?

You get a similar

0:43:580:44:06

thing happening in prisons, which

offenders will describe as

0:44:060:44:13

napalming, mixing sugar with boiling

hot water into another prisoner's

0:44:130:44:19

face, that happens with young

prisoners and it tends to go through

0:44:190:44:24

spikes. You get offenders copying

one another and there maybe some of

0:44:240:44:30

that to acid attacks as are given

publicity. Other offenders in

0:44:300:44:37

similar settings are beginning to

move towards selecting acid as a

0:44:370:44:40

weapon.

James, interesting to talk

to you, thanks very much.

0:44:400:44:49

Time to have a look at the weather

and look at the

0:44:490:44:53

Time to have a look at the weather

and look at the cameras - you can't

0:44:530:44:55

really tell from that image, but it

is close to Carol's perch near

0:44:550:45:02

central London, but I believe it is

raining rather heavily. We certainly

0:45:020:45:05

central London, but I believe it is

raining rather heavily. We certainly

0:45:050:45:05

have wet weather here. Yes, it is

quite drizzly, cloudy and mild. For

0:45:050:45:11

many parts it is a mild start,

temperatures generally between 7- 12

0:45:110:45:17

degrees at the moment, with one or

two exceptions and today it will be

0:45:170:45:25

a mild and fairly cloudy day, and

there are a couple of exceptions to

0:45:250:45:29

that rule. So this morning we have a

weather front moving part of

0:45:290:45:33

Scotland, across the borders into

northern England, heading to the

0:45:330:45:37

north of Wales through the morning.

For eastern areas it really is

0:45:370:45:41

staying largely dry. There is a lot

of cloud around. We have fog at the

0:45:410:45:46

moment, and it will lift into the

hills. As the weather from sinks

0:45:460:45:53

south, Scotland and Northern Ireland

will be under some bright skies and

0:45:530:45:56

sunny spells, with showers across

the north and west, where it is

0:45:560:46:00

likely to be breezy. For north-west

England, you have a murky afternoon,

0:46:000:46:05

because the weather front will be

across you, so there will be patchy

0:46:050:46:09

rain. North-east England and the

sheltered Pennines, something dry

0:46:090:46:13

and bright. Into East Anglia and

southern counties of England, fairly

0:46:130:46:17

cloudy with one or two bright

breaks. In the shelter of the hills,

0:46:170:46:21

that is where you are most likely to

see them. We are also likely to see

0:46:210:46:29

12 degrees. Then it will move

southwards, it won't be very heavy.

0:46:290:46:34

For Northern Ireland, as the fund

will clear is at 3pm in the

0:46:340:46:38

afternoon, you will have some bright

skies and sunny spells -- front.

0:46:380:46:42

Through this evening and overnight

rain continues travelling down to

0:46:420:46:46

the south-east. Any changes

direction and moves north-east as we

0:46:460:46:51

go through the course of tonight.

And you will find some of it will be

0:46:510:46:56

heavy as it moves across south-east

England into northern England, once

0:46:560:47:00

again we will see some fog forming,

but ahead of it it will be cold with

0:47:000:47:05

a touch of frost. Through the day

tomorrow, the weather front moves

0:47:050:47:10

north-east was, taking rain with it.

Behind it there will be some cloud

0:47:100:47:13

around but also some bright breaks.

Temperatures still quite good in

0:47:130:47:17

double figures for most. That is

except for the north-east of

0:47:170:47:21

Scotland, where they will be a bit

lower. For Friday, every drop eye

0:47:210:47:27

pressure develops, so things fairly

dry and settled with showers in the

0:47:270:47:30

west and the Channel Islands will

have some rain -- high pressure. And

0:47:300:47:34

if you are wondering about the lead

up to Christmas, it is going to turn

0:47:340:47:38

a little more unsettled and it looks

like there is the potential for

0:47:380:47:42

somewhere in the UK to see some snow

on Christmas Day and the likelihood

0:47:420:47:46

is, you won't be surprised

0:47:460:47:48

on Christmas Day and the likelihood

is, you won't be surprised to hear

0:47:480:47:48

this, that it's going to be

Scotland.

No, not surprised, but we

0:47:480:47:53

shall see when that day comes. Thank

you.

0:47:530:47:56

Christmas jumpers, prosecco,

perfume - all good gifts to find

0:47:560:47:58

under the tree on the big day.

0:47:580:48:00

Even, it seems, for dogs.

0:48:000:48:04

I thought you were talking about

your gifts for me. What?

Presents.

0:48:040:48:10

More and more owners

are splashing out on luxury items

0:48:100:48:13

for their four-legged friends.

0:48:130:48:13

And with supermarkets and high

street stores getting

0:48:130:48:16

in on the action,

it's big business too.

0:48:160:48:18

As Fiona Lamdin has

been finding out.

0:48:180:48:25

More and more are dressing dogs in

Christmas costumes. Just last week

0:48:250:48:32

300 dogs in jumpers smashed a world

record in London.

# the weather

0:48:320:48:39

outside is a frightful, but the fire

is so delightful.

Not hugely

0:48:390:48:43

surprising we are spending a lot

more on them. Just a couple of miles

0:48:430:48:49

across town, much thought and

planning has gone in to Suki's

0:48:490:48:54

wardrobe. On Christmas Day she will

have three changes of clothes.

When

0:48:540:48:58

I was a kid my parents got me

clothes for Christmas and I was

0:48:580:49:02

excited to wear the clothes, going

to see my family on Christmas

0:49:020:49:06

dinner, so it is kind of the same

thing. She is like my daughter. I am

0:49:060:49:11

like, whoa, she is.

It is not just

clothes. She will have a small

0:49:110:49:16

mountain of presence under the tree.

I think we spend more money on her

0:49:160:49:20

than on each other.

If you come to

the kitchen, there is a section for

0:49:200:49:25

her in the fridge.

So you can start

the day with a mince pie, and your

0:49:250:49:30

Christmas dinner.

And it seems Suki

isn't a loan. Around the corner at

0:49:300:49:37

the local groomers...

We have given

her a lovely warm bath. I can't keep

0:49:370:49:41

the stock on the shelves long

enough. Sometimes I come in and

0:49:410:49:45

wonder what I am going to fill them

with. Let's look around for things

0:49:450:49:49

to get in quickly because we can't

keep up.

I have to admit it is a

0:49:490:49:54

whole new world. I adore my dog,

Mouse, but I have never bought him a

0:49:540:49:59

Christmas present before. There are

so many things I could get him. A

0:49:590:50:03

raincoat, socks, or even boots.

UK

consumers are spending more every

0:50:030:50:13

year on accessories for pets. Just

over £900 million is expected to be

0:50:130:50:18

spent in 2017, that is up 16% since

2012. This is an ongoing shift

0:50:180:50:25

towards treating pets much more like

people. This really comes from the

0:50:250:50:30

really strong parent bond between

owners and pets.

# let it snow, let

0:50:300:50:35

it snow, let it snow.

It is nice to

have a jacket when it is cold.

I am

0:50:350:50:42

buy-in friends' dogs present. --

buying.

The more that you treat your

0:50:420:50:50

dog like a human, the more likely

they are to develop behavioural

0:50:500:50:53

problems.

Shall we take your

stocking?

Many dogs across the

0:50:530:50:59

country will have something under

the tree, though I am not so sure

0:50:590:51:03

how many of us will be in matching

attire.

0:51:030:51:10

Brace yourself, we have some

pictures.

Have a look. Ogi and Yogi

0:51:100:51:18

from Aberystwyth. Both of the dogs

promised to be good so they can have

0:51:180:51:25

some turkey on Christmas Day.

And

Tina has sent in this picture. It is

0:51:250:51:30

her Staffordshire Bull Terriers,

kitted out in costumes.

They look

0:51:300:51:38

over the moon.

That is literally an

entire costume.

And not just the

0:51:380:51:44

dogs get into the Christmas spirit.

Here is Indie, the cat, looking

0:51:440:51:48

angry in a Santa hat. Beautiful, but

slightly miffed.

If you have bought

0:51:480:51:56

a dog present, if you have bought

the dog... If you have bought a

0:51:560:52:00

Christmas present for your dog and

you have taken a picture, send it

0:52:000:52:03

in.

Do you think the dog asked for

the present?

Almost certainly.

0:52:030:52:07

Whatever! Send them in.

A little bit

baffled.

Never mind. Did you like

0:52:070:52:13

those pictures? They're amazing. You

know how they treat them like humans

0:52:130:52:19

and then you see that they are

humiliated in their Santa outfit,

0:52:190:52:23

you are like, yeah, bless.

What are

you talking about, holidays?

Yes,

0:52:230:52:28

protection when you fly. It has been

quite chaotic this year for the

0:52:280:52:33

airline industry with all of the

strikes and businesses going under

0:52:330:52:36

and all of that. Morning, everyone.

0:52:360:52:42

I've spent a lot of this year

talking about issues in the airlines

0:52:420:52:45

industry - four big names have gone

bust, plus strikes and weather

0:52:450:52:48

have grounded planes.

0:52:480:52:49

So how can passengers

protect themselves?

0:52:490:52:51

You're probably used to seeing

this, Atol Protection,

0:52:510:52:53

when booking your holiday.

0:52:530:52:55

It's a mandetory insurance policy

if a travel company gost bust,

0:52:550:52:58

but even though companies pay

into it when you book,

0:52:580:53:01

it's worth remembering it only

covers packages where travel

0:53:010:53:04

and accomodation

are booked together.

0:53:040:53:05

Atol is run by the Civil

Aviation Authority.

0:53:050:53:08

And we can now talk to the boss

of the CAA, Andrew Haines.

0:53:080:53:12

Good morning. You are making a

specific announcement this morning

0:53:120:53:19

around all of this. What are you

telling the nation about in terms of

0:53:190:53:23

protection for travellers?

Amazingly

next week is not just Christmas, the

0:53:230:53:29

busiest week for people to book

holidays this year. We expect 3

0:53:290:53:33

million holidays will be booked next

year. We have three AAAs we want

0:53:330:53:37

people to think about, the first is

Atol Protection. 26 million holidays

0:53:370:53:42

were protected by this cold

standard. If you book a flight and

0:53:420:53:46

something else, a car, cruise or

hotel, then Atol Protection will

0:53:460:53:51

give you absolute guaranteed

protection of financial failure.

0:53:510:53:55

Look out for your company to sign up

to the alternative dispute

0:53:550:53:59

resolution scheme. If you get a

problem and you want compensation,

0:53:590:54:03

then an independent company will

adjudicate and their decision will

0:54:030:54:10

be binding. And thirdly, avoid

surprises. A lot of airlines tend to

0:54:100:54:16

put additional charges in late in

the process. We are investigating

0:54:160:54:20

those practices. In the meantime we

think that is something consumers

0:54:200:54:23

should be aware of when they are

booking.

Can I ask about Atol

0:54:230:54:26

Protection because you say it

guarantees if you book more than

0:54:260:54:31

just Raval. Why can't it just before

travel as well?

-- travel. It is a

0:54:310:54:36

European requirement. And the SMC is

that it is part of a package -- and

0:54:360:54:43

the essence is that it is part of a

package and the vast majority

0:54:430:54:49

travelling on an airline don't need

protection but the long-standing

0:54:490:54:53

policy is if you are on holiday

stranded without accommodation, or

0:54:530:54:57

you're stranded on your cruise ship,

or your cruise liner has gone bust,

0:54:570:55:02

that is extra complexity and the

requirement is a package.

Can I talk

0:55:020:55:05

about some of the specifics we've

seen this year. Obviously, there

0:55:050:55:10

were problems with Monarch, of

course, which meant you had to

0:55:100:55:14

repatriate lots of people back to

the UK. Did it go to plan, were

0:55:140:55:18

there he cups?

It went phenomenally

well. -- hiccups? The largest

0:55:180:55:25

peacetime repatriation in UK

history. We plan for 110,000 people,

0:55:250:55:31

close to 90,000 people repatriated.

We've had phenomenally good

0:55:310:55:34

feedback. For some people it was

quite hairy. 99% of passengers got

0:55:340:55:40

back on the day that they were due

to get back and we think that is a

0:55:400:55:44

phenomenal achievement and people

can take comfort that there are

0:55:440:55:48

arrangements in place if the really

awful thing happens and an airline

0:55:480:55:53

goes bust.

What about Ryanair, we

have seen strikes and people don't

0:55:530:55:57

know what's going on. ARU happy with

what's going on at Ryanair?

I always

0:55:570:56:01

have a close eye on Ryanair -- Are

you happy. They have given us some

0:56:010:56:08

promises and we have seen good

progress on that. Consumers are

0:56:080:56:11

still book with Ryanair. They are

still the largest airline in Europe.

0:56:110:56:16

People are now a little more

cautious about ensuring they get

0:56:160:56:22

what they are entitled to with

Ryanair.

So are you happy with them?

0:56:220:56:25

I am not yet happy. I am satisfied

they are making progress.

OK, thank

0:56:250:56:32

you.

0:56:320:56:36

Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are.

0:56:360:59:55

temperatures as well as we head

into Christmas Eve.

0:59:550:59:58

Temperatures will reach 12 Celsius.

0:59:581:00:02

Hello, this is Breakfast,

1:00:021:00:04

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

Munchetty.

1:00:041:00:05

Scotland Yard launches a review

of all its sex crime

1:00:051:00:08

investigations after the collapse

of two rape prosecutions

1:00:081:00:10

in one week.

1:00:101:00:11

The Metropolitan Police

confirms the same detective

1:00:111:00:13

was involved in both cases

and begins re-examining the way

1:00:131:00:16

it handles evidence.

1:00:161:00:19

Good morning, it's Wednesday

the 20th of December.

1:00:321:00:35

Also this morning:

1:00:351:00:36

The start of a 20-year jail sentence

for the man who threw acid

1:00:361:00:39

across a packed London nightclub

injuring 22 people.

1:00:391:00:43

Victims told the court

how his actions have

1:00:431:00:45

changed their lives.

1:00:451:00:48

It's just very hard to deal with,

you just try and carry

1:00:481:00:51

on like normal because I know I'm

never going to be the same girl

1:00:511:00:55

that, like, walked

into Mangle that night.

1:00:551:00:57

More than 9,000 people are sleeping

rough on the streets of England.

1:00:571:01:00

MPs describe the situation

as a national crisis.

1:01:001:01:08

Getting your cash out of a machine

for free could get tougher, there's

1:01:081:01:12

a dispute at the moment of the fees.

Are all be talking to the boss of

1:01:121:01:17

Link Network) what happens next. --

Link Network.

1:01:171:01:23

In sport, Bravo for Manchester City,

1:01:231:01:24

the keeper saves the penalty that

takes them into the semi-finals

1:01:241:01:27

of the League Cup.

1:01:271:01:28

Could singing help mums combat

post-natal depression?

1:01:281:01:30

New research suggests it

could be an effective

1:01:301:01:32

alternative to medicine.

1:01:321:01:41

And Carol has the weather.

1:01:411:01:42

Good morning from the roof

of New Broadcasting House in London,

1:01:421:01:45

where it's fairly drizzly.

1:01:451:01:46

Today, fairly cloudy for most, a

weak weather fronts thinking south

1:01:461:01:50

out of Scotland into north-west

England, Wales and the West Midlands

1:01:501:01:54

but behind it it will brighten up

and some will see some sunny spells.

1:01:541:01:57

More details in 15 minutes.

1:01:571:02:01

Good morning.

1:02:011:02:02

First, our main story.

1:02:021:02:03

The Metropolitan Police is launching

a review of all its current sex

1:02:031:02:06

offence investigations

after the collapse of a second rape

1:02:061:02:09

case in a week.

1:02:091:02:10

Scotland Yard says

that in both cases,

1:02:101:02:12

the same officer failed to disclose

evidence useful to the defence

1:02:121:02:15

during the early

stages of the inquiry.

1:02:151:02:17

Our reporter Keith Doyle has more.

1:02:171:02:19

The rape case against 22-year-old

Liam Allen collapsed last week

1:02:191:02:22

after it emerged vital evidence that

helped his case had not been

1:02:221:02:25

released by the prosecution.

1:02:251:02:31

For two years he'd faced a trial

that ended only after thousands

1:02:311:02:35

of texts the prosecution

had from his accuser

1:02:351:02:37

were finally disclosed.

1:02:371:02:38

No one was really investigating,

"How can we show he's innocent?"

1:02:381:02:41

People were investigating,

"How can we prove he's guilty,"

1:02:411:02:43

instead, and maybe

that was what was wrong.

1:02:431:02:50

Under the British legal system

the prosecution must hand over any

1:02:501:02:52

evidence it holds that may

help a person on trial.

1:02:521:02:55

Now a second case, that

of 22-year-old Isaac Itiary,

1:02:551:02:58

who was charged with rape

and other sexual offences,

1:02:581:03:00

has collapsed for similar reasons.

1:03:001:03:07

As a result, Scotland Yard has said

it's reviewing every current

1:03:071:03:10

sex crime case.

1:03:101:03:11

In a statement it said:

1:03:111:03:15

It's also

emerged that the same detective

1:03:271:03:29

is involved in both cases

and is still working on full duty

1:03:291:03:32

in the Met's Sexual Offences

Investigation Unit.

1:03:321:03:34

It's not known exactly how many

cases are being reviewed.

1:03:341:03:37

Keith Doyle, BBC News.

1:03:371:03:44

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in London

1:03:441:03:48

in April has been

jailed for 20 years.

1:03:481:03:50

25-year-old Arthur Collins injured

1:03:501:03:51

22 people at the venue in east

London.

1:03:511:03:53

The judge called his actions

deliberate and calculated.

1:03:531:03:55

Some of the victims were temporarily

blinded, others were left

1:03:551:03:58

with permanent scars.

1:03:581:03:59

Tom Burridge reports.

1:03:591:04:01

Acid hurled across a

crowded dance floor.

1:04:011:04:06

Look closer on the CCTV and you can

see Arthur Collins' arm throwing

1:04:061:04:10

the liquid a second

and a third time.

1:04:101:04:13

Young people like Lauren Trent

suffered severe burns

1:04:131:04:15

and scars for life.

1:04:151:04:20

Last night she and other victims

gave vivid accounts outside court

1:04:201:04:24

of what it's like when acid is

thrown over your skin and clothes.

1:04:241:04:28

I think that night I just

remember the sheer panic.

1:04:281:04:33

The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

1:04:331:04:35

The smell, the smell

of the chemicals and your skin

1:04:351:04:38

blistering, and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

1:04:381:04:47

I remember looking at the police

officers and the people around us

1:04:471:04:50

at the time when they arrived.

1:04:501:04:51

It was almost like disbelief that

something like this had ever

1:04:511:04:54

happened in a nightclub.

1:04:541:04:56

Collins caused severe

burns to 14 people.

1:04:561:04:58

His actions in the Mangle nightclub

left physical and mental scars.

1:04:581:05:04

When you are out, like,

just a splash of somebody's drink

1:05:041:05:07

on your arm, like, brings the worst

things through your head.

1:05:071:05:11

So it's just very hard to deal

with and try and carry

1:05:111:05:14

on like normal, because I know I'm

never going to be the same girl

1:05:141:05:18

that, like, walked into Mangle that

night, but just trying to get

1:05:181:05:21

as close back to that as possible.

1:05:211:05:25

Earlier that evening,

Collins argued with two

1:05:251:05:27

of his victims, but the judge

said his indiscriminate attack,

1:05:271:05:30

which affected so many young

people, was unprovoked.

1:05:301:05:32

He sentenced him to 20 years.

1:05:321:05:44

It sends out the right message

that it will not be tolerated,

1:05:441:05:48

it will not be tolerated

by the criminal justice system.

1:05:481:05:51

Anyone carrying acid needs to look

at the offence and be aware that

1:05:511:05:54

a strong sentence will be passed.

1:05:541:05:56

Collins showed no remorse in court

for what was described

1:05:561:05:58

as despicable act.

1:05:581:05:59

One of his victims said her old life

had been taken from her

1:05:591:06:03

on that night.

1:06:031:06:03

Tom Burridge, BBC News.

1:06:031:06:07

The government is being accused

of abject failure in its attempt

1:06:071:06:10

to tackle homelessness in England.

1:06:101:06:12

A damning report by

the all-party Public Accounts

1:06:121:06:14

Committee says the issue has

become a national crisis.

1:06:141:06:16

The government says it's investing

more than £1 billion

1:06:161:06:19

to help

make more affordable

1:06:191:06:20

housing available.

1:06:201:06:27

Police will continue

searching two properties,

1:06:271:06:29

including a community centre,

this morning, following anti-terror

1:06:291:06:31

raids in Sheffield and Chesterfield.

1:06:311:06:32

Four men were arrested

and are being held over an alleged

1:06:321:06:35

Islamist terror plot that officers

1:06:351:06:36

say could have been carried out this

Christmas.

1:06:361:06:39

Our correspondent Phil Bodmer

is in Sheffield this morning.

1:06:391:06:44

What more can you tell us after this

initial investigation?

Well, Naga,

1:06:441:06:52

this is the Fatima community centre

in the burnt grease area of

1:06:521:06:55

Sheffield, the focus of some of

these raids yesterday and last

1:06:551:06:59

evening the cordon around this

community centre was extended while

1:06:591:07:02

bomb disposal experts were called in

to investigate. Bomb disposal teams

1:07:021:07:06

were also called to an address in

Chesterfield on King street north

1:07:061:07:11

yesterday, where another raid took

place and as we know raids also took

1:07:111:07:15

place in stocks bridge just north of

Sheffield around the corner here on

1:07:151:07:19

Vernon street in Berne grieve and in

another part of Sheffield, Mieres

1:07:191:07:25

Brooke. Four men are in custody,

they're being questioned at a police

1:07:251:07:29

station in west Yorkshire at the

moment and we expect the searches to

1:07:291:07:32

continue at the premises in Berne

grieve today and also at the house

1:07:321:07:36

in Chesterfield. Police have once

again reassure the public not to be

1:07:361:07:43

alarmed or unsettled by what they

see, many local people have

1:07:431:07:46

described what they heard, loud

bangs as police went in. The police

1:07:461:07:51

have said they are urging the public

to remain vigilant, don't be

1:07:511:07:55

unsettled by what you've seen, it's

simply to reassure the public and

1:07:551:07:59

keep safe, but they do say be

vigilant but continue to go about

1:07:591:08:04

your business while these

investigations continue.

For the

1:08:041:08:06

moment, thanks for looking at that

latest case of potential terrorism.

1:08:061:08:10

Local authorities in England will be

able to increase council tax by just

1:08:101:08:13

under 6% next year

1:08:131:08:14

without triggering a local

referendum.

1:08:141:08:16

The move would add about £95

to the average annual bill

1:08:161:08:19

for a Band D property.

1:08:191:08:20

Currently a raise of 5% or more must

be put to local voters.

1:08:201:08:23

Ministers say it will ease

pressure on local services.

1:08:231:08:26

The Local Government Association

says councils will still be

1:08:261:08:28

at financial breaking point.

1:08:281:08:35

The European Court of Justice is due

to decide this morning

1:08:351:08:38

whether the taxi hailing app, Uber,

should legally be considered

1:08:381:08:40

a transport company

or a digital services provider.

1:08:401:08:43

The ruling will determine

whether the firm should be subject

1:08:431:08:45

to local licensing laws in

the countries in which it operates.

1:08:451:08:51

The BBC is to broaden its coverage

of religions, devoting more time

1:08:511:08:54

to non-Christian faiths.

1:08:541:08:55

The decision follows a review

of the corporation's output

1:08:551:08:58

in response to claims it was out

of step with its audience.

1:08:581:09:01

Here's more from our media

correspondent, David Sillito.

1:09:011:09:03

For some, it's the best part

of the BBC's output,

1:09:031:09:06

but new research has also shown

1:09:061:09:12

that

traditional religious programmes

1:09:121:09:13

are,

for large parts of the audience,

1:09:131:09:15

ernest, worthy and a TV turnoff.

1:09:151:09:17

Welcome to Sunday Morning Live...

1:09:171:09:22

There's also concern that too often

religion on TV is reduced

1:09:221:09:25

to an argument or a debate.

1:09:251:09:27

The once more stories about real

people's lives and their faith

1:09:271:09:30

The BBC wants more stories

about real people's lives

1:09:301:09:32

and their faith and less

studio-based confrontation.

1:09:321:09:38

There will be more religion

reflected in mainstream programming.

1:09:381:09:40

It's all part of a review about how

the BBC treats religion

1:09:401:09:43

after criticism it was out

of step with its audience.

1:09:431:09:55

The latest research suggests

the long decline in Christianity

1:09:551:09:58

in the UK has, over the last few

years, levelled off.

1:09:581:10:01

Nearly half of us believe

in life after death,

1:10:011:10:04

one in four believe in angels.

1:10:041:10:07

The BBC says there'll be more

Christianity but also coverage

1:10:071:10:10

and explanation of other faiths.

1:10:101:10:12

The big calendar events

of the world's main faiths

1:10:121:10:15

will get more coverage.

1:10:151:10:16

Rather than being in decline,

1:10:161:10:17

religion is actually growing

globally.

1:10:171:10:21

The number of people affiliated

to a religion is forecast

1:10:211:10:24

to increase from 84% to 90%.

1:10:241:10:25

David Sillito, BBC News.

1:10:251:10:29

Pictures emerged of a massive

volcanic eruption in Ecuador.

1:10:291:10:31

They were taken earlier this month

by a British photographer,

1:10:311:10:34

they show the volcano's first major

activity in more than a decade.

1:10:341:10:37

It caused significant damage

to pipelines and a nearby valley,

1:10:371:10:40

but posed no threat to any

local communities.

1:10:401:10:55

Just beautiful! Scary as well!

1:10:551:10:58

Thousands of people are facing

the prospect of spending the festive

1:10:581:11:01

period without a roof

over their heads and sleeping rough

1:11:011:11:04

on the streets.

1:11:041:11:04

Now an all party group of MPs

is calling on the government

1:11:041:11:08

to deal with what they claim has

become a national crisis.

1:11:081:11:11

Let's get more on this now

from the Conservative MP

1:11:111:11:13

Gillian Keegan, who sits

on the Public Accounts Committee,

1:11:131:11:16

which compiled the report.

1:11:161:11:20

Good morning and thanks for your

time this morning. Could you first

1:11:201:11:23

give us a sense of the scale of the

problem as you see it?

There's two

1:11:231:11:29

types of homelessness that are

referred to in the report, the type

1:11:291:11:32

your viewers may be more aware of is

rough sleeping, and that's more than

1:11:321:11:38

doubled since 2010 and then the

other crisis which is emerging is

1:11:381:11:42

the number of families in temporary

housing, that's people who basically

1:11:421:11:47

have been evicted or not been able

to stay in their residents, they are

1:11:471:11:50

in accommodation but it's very much

not meeting their needs and in many

1:11:501:11:54

cases are sub standard.

Looking at

some other recommendations, what are

1:11:541:12:02

you recommending, what should be

done?

The root of the problem is to

1:12:021:12:06

more houses and where this is

happening more is where you have

1:12:061:12:10

very high rent areas, obviously

London where I am right now is a

1:12:101:12:14

great example, but also give just

where I represent, you have high

1:12:141:12:18

rental costs and those on low

incomes are struggling to keep up

1:12:181:12:21

with a rental market which is out of

control -- also Chichester. In

1:12:211:12:28

London you see rent rises of 25% or

so and people on low incomes are

1:12:281:12:35

being out priced in terms of the

market. Clearly the answer has to be

1:12:351:12:40

more social houses, which are

normally rented at around 50% of the

1:12:401:12:45

market rate, making it more

affordable for those on low income.

1:12:451:12:49

As you well know, this problem has

been going on for so long. Correct

1:12:491:12:53

me if I'm wrong, this is one of your

recommendations, it says," The

1:12:531:13:00

department should buy the end of

June 2018 publish a cross government

1:13:001:13:04

strategy for reducing homelessness

that sets out targets and specific

1:13:041:13:10

actions for all stakeholders to

reduce all measures of

1:13:101:13:13

homelessness". Forgive me, but a lot

of people hearing that kind of

1:13:131:13:17

phraseology and terminology will say

that could have been written four

1:13:171:13:21

years ago, two years ago, 20 years

ago, someone somewhere in a role

1:13:211:13:25

like yours would have said almost

exactly those words. What makes this

1:13:251:13:29

time any different?

I think the size

of the problem makes it different.

1:13:291:13:35

We've come across this issue now

with homelessness, but there's also

1:13:351:13:39

many more young people as they try

to access housing and accommodation,

1:13:391:13:44

we do not have enough houses for the

people that want to rent them or

1:13:441:13:48

even indeed by them. I think that is

a well-known issue. It has been

1:13:481:13:55

growing but unfortunately what this

report shows is those on the lowest

1:13:551:13:58

incomes in the more expensive cities

are really suffering and are now

1:13:581:14:03

without homes and in temporary

accommodation.

Isn't there an

1:14:031:14:05

uncomfortable truth here that

governments, successive governments,

1:14:051:14:11

and maybe society as a wider issue,

actually don't care about this

1:14:111:14:15

issue? You're using the phrase, it's

often used in relation to

1:14:151:14:20

homelessness, crisis, but you think

of other crises, the financial

1:14:201:14:24

crisis and what happened then and

the money that was spent on that

1:14:241:14:28

occasion, you think of the refugee

crisis, you think of crisis and you

1:14:281:14:31

think money was spent, that doesn't

happen with homelessness. Is it

1:14:311:14:35

fundamentally that we don't care

enough?

I do think we care about it

1:14:351:14:40

but I think the solution is quite

difficult because what we're saying

1:14:401:14:43

is we need to build a lot of social

housing in places like London and

1:14:431:14:47

Chichester so we have the right and

affordable accommodation for those

1:14:471:14:51

people on lower incomes. That's much

easier said than done and I know the

1:14:511:14:55

government obviously has been

focused on increasing housebuilding,

1:14:551:14:59

and I think we have had a record

year in the last year, but still not

1:14:591:15:03

meeting the needs as we move

forward. So our record of

1:15:031:15:09

housebuilding over successive

governments for many years has not

1:15:091:15:11

kept up with the pace of demand, and

we have had quite a big increase in

1:15:111:15:16

our population since 2005 and those

plans have not been in sync, which

1:15:161:15:21

is why we need a much more joined up

approach.

Gillian Keegan, MP, thank

1:15:211:15:26

you very much Boyata time this

morning.

1:15:261:15:29

You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

1:15:291:15:31

The main stories this morning:

Scotland Yard launches a review

1:15:311:15:34

of all its sex crime investigations

after the collapse of two rape

1:15:341:15:37

prosecutions in one week.

1:15:371:15:38

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in London

1:15:381:15:41

in April has been

jailed for 20 years.

1:15:411:15:51

This time of year might you go to do

your job in a nice warm studio, like

1:15:511:15:59

we are, winter, raining, what do you

do when you are told you are going

1:15:591:16:04

to be outside?

Wrap up warm and put

on under gear to keep yourself warm.

1:16:041:16:11

What is the word I am thinking of?

Thermals.

Thank you. You put on

1:16:111:16:18

thermals?

It isn't actually very

cold. The temperature at the moment

1:16:181:16:24

across the UK is 7-10 degrees. Some

places a little more, some little

1:16:241:16:31

less and today it will be cloudy for

most. It is also going to be mild.

1:16:311:16:35

We have a weather front coming

southwards out of Northern Ireland,

1:16:351:16:39

across the Scottish Borders and it

is producing some rain and as it

1:16:391:16:44

continues to move southwards

1:16:441:16:45

is producing some rain and as it

continues to move southwards through

1:16:451:16:46

northern England, north-west England

into Wales, it will weaken, so you

1:16:461:16:49

will see some drizzle. We have thick

cloud ahead of it across the rest of

1:16:491:16:55

England producing some drizzle

especially in the south, as you can

1:16:551:16:58

see, and some fog starting to think

and then it will be confined to the

1:16:581:17:05

hills -- thin. For Northern Ireland

and Scotland you will see more

1:17:051:17:08

sunshine. This afternoon 3pm in

Scotland, that is your forecast,

1:17:081:17:12

bright and sunny. We will have

showers in the north-west and it

1:17:121:17:15

will be breezy. Highs of around nine

in Glasgow and Edinburgh. North-west

1:17:151:17:20

England has a weather front, so it

is murky and damp conditions.

1:17:201:17:24

North-east England has something dry

and bright. Then south into the

1:17:241:17:29

Midlands, East Anglia, southern

counties generally they will be a

1:17:291:17:32

lot of cloud around. Now and again

we will see it break with the

1:17:321:17:36

brightness coming through. In Wales

of the weather front moving north to

1:17:361:17:40

the south will produce some patchy

rain and drizzle. For Northern

1:17:401:17:43

Ireland the weather front will clear

so you have bright skies with some

1:17:431:17:48

sunny spells. Feeling a little bit

nippy. Through the evening and

1:17:481:17:52

overnight you can see the progress

of the weather front makes, crossing

1:17:521:17:55

the rest of Wales and also England,

heading to the south-east. Then it

1:17:551:18:01

flips and moves north-east. For

England and Wales overnight there is

1:18:011:18:06

going to be cloud, fog forming, and

we have the rain. It is cool in

1:18:061:18:10

Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Tomorrow the weather front continues

1:18:101:18:14

to move across Northern Ireland,

England and Scotland, having cleared

1:18:141:18:18

the south-east of England. Behind it

there we one or two brighter breaks

1:18:181:18:24

and ahead of it there will be some

bright breaks and it will be cool

1:18:241:18:28

but still in double figures across

most of the UK. Then into Friday the

1:18:281:18:34

weather front will be gone with a

writ of high pressure a cross. Most

1:18:341:18:38

of us will have a dry day. It will

be more settled. There will be some

1:18:381:18:42

showers in the west. And across the

Channel Islands we will see some

1:18:421:18:46

spots of rain as well. Temperatures

not too bad for this kind of

1:18:461:18:49

December. As we head through

Christmas Day the weather will be

1:18:491:18:57

settled. If you are hoping for a

white Christmas parts of Scotland

1:18:571:19:00

might see that. There is not a lot

of hope for the rest of the UK.

1:19:001:19:05

Sorry to dash your hopes. Perfect.

Thank you. Stay dry. See you later.

1:19:051:19:16

Business is busy. We were talking

about Toys R Us before the meeting

1:19:161:19:24

on Thursday. Yes, lots going on at

the moment because it has announced

1:19:241:19:29

it is going into administration.

1:19:291:19:32

the moment because it has announced

it is going into administration.

1:19:321:19:33

Another company is running it trying

to work out whether it can be saved

1:19:331:19:37

as a business. They have 105 stores

across the UK and they employ 3000

1:19:371:19:44

people. They are looking at closing

26 unprofitable stores. And there

1:19:441:19:51

maybe reduce the size of others,

renegotiate the rent. That is being

1:19:511:19:55

discussed behind the scenes because

of opposition as to whether that'll

1:19:551:19:59

work financially. What has been

interesting this morning is MP Frank

1:19:591:20:04

Field has been speaking about how

disgraceful, in his words,

1:20:041:20:08

management has been around Toys R

Us. They have seen their pay go up

1:20:081:20:13

considerably over the last few years

and if you look at the industry over

1:20:131:20:17

that time it has not been doing very

well. Even sales are down 6%

1:20:171:20:21

compared to last year. The business

has been struggling and we have seen

1:20:211:20:26

pay increases for the bosses. There

has been analysis around that. This

1:20:261:20:30

is an ongoing story. Anyone who

works at the store will wonder what

1:20:301:20:34

that means and we will keep you

updated as we get more information

1:20:341:20:37

on that. But there should be a

decision in the next one or two days

1:20:371:20:41

over that. So that is one story this

morning.

I know that you are looking

1:20:411:20:46

at access to financial services in

rural areas.

Yes. This comes up a

1:20:461:20:50

lot for people. As more of us use

online banking there is less need

1:20:501:20:57

for cash machines and there is less

money to be made. One of the big

1:20:571:21:03

things going on is a dispute over

the fees the banks and cash machine

1:21:031:21:06

operators are charging. So I will

talk to the boss of the Link

1:21:061:21:13

network. There is concern that if

cash machine operators can't make

1:21:131:21:16

money from the cash Messines, they

won't have as many of them and those

1:21:161:21:20

that they will get rid of those in

rural areas which make the least

1:21:201:21:24

money for them -- cash machines.

There is also interesting things

1:21:241:21:28

going on around the Post Office as

well. They are going to get £370

1:21:281:21:34

million of new funding, announced by

the government. This is money partly

1:21:341:21:40

to project village community

branches. £160 million is going into

1:21:401:21:45

that. The rest of it is for

modernisation and improved

1:21:451:21:49

technology in the Post Office

network. And we have seen it is

1:21:491:21:53

another area of financial services

essentially which have seen a

1:21:531:21:56

decline. Interestingly they are back

in profit, the Post Office, so it

1:21:561:22:01

seems to be picking up. The unions

are not very happy with this

1:22:011:22:05

announcement in funding, because

they see it as still a declining

1:22:051:22:10

industry and also they think this

money is not enough to actually

1:22:101:22:14

help. So lots going on. Later on I

will speak with the boss of Llink to

1:22:141:22:19

find out what the deal is with the

cash machines.

We are going to talk

1:22:191:22:26

about stinging.

Not again. It panics

me, this singing, we have become

1:22:261:22:33

obsessed.

What, as a nation?

No, us,

that is all we do constantly.

You

1:22:331:22:40

are going to be playing all of it on

Christmas Day. It is good for you.

1:22:401:22:45

Don't get me wrong. I like it. But

we are awful singers. And as the

1:22:451:22:49

nation will soon see.

That is still

to come.

Right now, talking about

1:22:491:22:56

how it can help young mothers.

1:22:561:22:57

Even the most reluctant singer

probably knows some nursery rhymes

1:22:571:23:00

and lullabies - and it's long been

thought music has a calming

1:23:001:23:03

effect on babies.

1:23:031:23:04

Now research suggests it's not only

children who benefit -

1:23:041:23:07

their parents do too -

and it could even be an effective

1:23:071:23:10

way of treating

post-natal depression.

1:23:101:23:12

Breakfast's Jayne McCubbin has

been finding out more.

1:23:121:23:14

This kind of moment is being shared

by more and more mums and babies,

1:23:141:23:17

but today we can reveal research

which shows this isn't just fun,

1:23:171:23:21

it could provide fundamental help

for a problem that affects one

1:23:211:23:24

in eight mothers.

1:23:241:23:26

Like Mauve and baby Isla.

1:23:261:23:28

Like Claire and Elsie.

1:23:281:23:29

Like Cecilia and Boadicea.

1:23:291:23:30

I never blamed him.

1:23:301:23:33

He's amazing.

1:23:331:23:37

He's always wonderful.

1:23:371:23:39

But motherhood.

1:23:391:23:41

You feel shocking.

1:23:411:23:49

Literally like the world has ended.

1:23:491:23:51

You feel guilty,

and it's meant to be a happy time.

1:23:511:23:56

Guilty just for feeling sad.

1:23:561:23:57

Sitting on the sofa in the evening

and you are still, like,

1:23:571:24:01

what am I going to do?

1:24:011:24:02

High alert.

1:24:021:24:03

Everyone's like, relax,

do something you enjoy,

1:24:031:24:05

and I can't do that.

1:24:051:24:06

That doesn't help me relax,

because I have severe anxiety.

1:24:061:24:09

These women are part

of a singing group in London,

1:24:091:24:12

which was studied by academics.

1:24:121:24:13

Mums who'd all experienced

post-natal depression

1:24:131:24:16

or baby blues.

1:24:161:24:17

They discovered

singing really helps.

1:24:171:24:18

We've taken 150 mothers

with symptoms of post-natal

1:24:181:24:22

depression and randomised them

into ten weeks of social groups,

1:24:221:24:25

usual care or social singing groups,

and those in the social singing

1:24:251:24:28

groups had significantly faster

1:24:281:24:32

improvements in post-natal

depression across the ten weeks.

1:24:321:24:35

And, in fact, about three quarters

of them had recovered

1:24:351:24:38

from their symptoms by the end

of the 10-week project,

1:24:381:24:40

and this was about a month earlier

than either of the other two groups.

1:24:401:24:45

The more intense the symptoms,

the more significant the impact.

1:24:451:24:48

Singing made recovery faster.

1:24:481:24:49

You don't have to think

about anything but singing

1:24:491:24:51

and cuddling your

baby and having fun.

1:24:511:24:54

You know you're in a

bad moment together.

1:24:541:24:57

You don't have to be, like,

how bad is your moment,

1:24:571:25:01

how bad is your moment,

you're just all there singing

1:25:011:25:04

something communal together,

so it's really nice.

1:25:041:25:06

Would you recommend it?

1:25:061:25:07

Oh, yeah, 100%.

1:25:071:25:10

I got a little kick there.

1:25:101:25:12

I hope you enjoy our singing today.

1:25:121:25:14

An endorsement they are happy

to share in Bristol

1:25:141:25:16

at the Womb Sisters Singing Group.

1:25:161:25:19

SINGING

1:25:191:25:21

They're singing in the knowledge

that babies can hear in the womb

1:25:211:25:24

from 15 weeks.

1:25:241:25:28

When the baby's born,

they recognise that song

1:25:281:25:30

and they respond to it.

1:25:301:25:32

There is a comfort there.

1:25:321:25:33

Yeah.

1:25:331:25:33

It is a really nice way to connect.

1:25:331:25:36

These are the songs you will

sing when she is born.

1:25:361:25:39

If I can remember.

1:25:391:25:40

Of course you will.

1:25:401:25:41

For mums struggling after birth,

medication isn't always welcome.

1:25:411:25:43

Take-up rate of talking

therapies is very low,

1:25:431:25:48

so the findings that this could take

make a difference in the most

1:25:481:25:51

serious cases

is all the more important.

1:25:511:25:53

Real help that couldn't be simpler.

1:25:531:25:55

It doesn't matter if you're a good

or a bad singer at all,

1:25:551:25:58

it's just literally about finding

a way to communicate.

1:25:581:26:01

I've made up loads and loads

of songs, just everyday stuff.

1:26:011:26:07

I have a song about changing his

nappy that my mum thinks

1:26:071:26:10

is a little bit rude.

1:26:101:26:12

But, you know.

1:26:121:26:13

Can you share?

1:26:131:26:14

Come on.

1:26:141:26:15

# Mr Poo Pants

1:26:151:26:18

# Mr Poo Pants

1:26:181:26:19

# He did a poo

1:26:191:26:20

# And he wears pants #

1:26:201:26:29

It doesn't matter what you sing

or where you sing it,

1:26:291:26:32

singing helps you to bond

and helps mums feel.

1:26:321:26:34

Everyone should do it.

1:26:341:26:35

Yep.

1:26:351:26:36

Thank you for sharing!

1:26:361:26:40

Good song.

And very brave to share

it. Why not?

I enjoyed it.

1:26:401:26:46

You're watching Breakfast.

1:26:461:26:48

Still to come this morning:

1:26:481:26:50

Christmas dog jumpers,

paw-secco and turkey dinners -

1:26:501:26:52

we'll be finding out how the UK's

pampered pet market has turned

1:26:521:26:55

into seriously big business.

1:26:551:26:58

Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are.

1:26:581:30:21

Vanessa Feltz is on BBC Radio London

with her award-winning breakfast

1:30:211:30:24

show and took 10am. Goodbye for now.

1:30:241:30:28

Hello, this is Breakfast,

1:30:281:30:29

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

Munchetty.

1:30:291:30:30

Here's a summary of this morning's

main stories from BBC News.

1:30:301:30:35

The Metropolitan Police is launching

a review of all current sex offence

1:30:351:30:38

investigations after the collapse

of a second rape case in a week.

1:30:381:30:42

The prosecutions were halted

because of the late

1:30:421:30:44

disclosure of evidence.

1:30:441:30:45

Scotland Yard confirmed the same

officer was involved

1:30:451:30:47

in both investigations.

1:30:471:30:57

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in April has

1:30:571:31:00

been jailed for 20 years.

1:31:001:31:06

25-year-old Arthur Collins injured

22 people at a venue in his London.

1:31:061:31:10

The judge called his actions

reckless and calculated.

1:31:101:31:17

Some victims were temporary blinded

1:31:171:31:18

and others were left

with permanent scars.

1:31:181:31:20

I think that night I just

remember the sheer panic.

1:31:201:31:23

The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

1:31:231:31:25

The smell, the smell

of the chemicals and your skin

1:31:251:31:28

blistering, and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

1:31:281:31:30

I remember looking at the police

officers and the people around us

1:31:301:31:34

at the time when they arrived.

1:31:341:31:35

It was almost like disbelief that

something like this had ever

1:31:351:31:38

happened in a nightclub.

1:31:381:31:42

The government is being accused

of abject failure in its attempt

1:31:421:31:45

to tackle homelessness in England.

1:31:451:31:46

A damning report by

the all-party Public Accounts

1:31:461:31:48

Committee says the issue has

become a national crisis.

1:31:481:31:51

The government says it's investing

more than £1 billion

1:31:511:31:53

to help

make more affordable

1:31:531:31:54

housing available.

1:31:541:31:59

I know that the government obviously

has been focused on increasing

1:31:591:32:03

housebuilding, and I think we have

had a record year in the last year,

1:32:031:32:07

but still not meeting the needs as

we move forward so our record of

1:32:071:32:13

housebuilding over successive

governments for many years has not

1:32:131:32:17

kept up with the pace of demand, and

we have had quite a big crease in

1:32:171:32:21

our population.

1:32:211:32:27

Police will continue searching

to properties including a community

1:32:271:32:29

centre this morning after

1:32:291:32:31

anti-terror raids in Sheffield and

Chester.

1:32:311:32:32

Four men have been arrested and held

over an alleged Islamist terror plot

1:32:321:32:36

that could have been

carried out this Christmas.

1:32:361:32:38

People had to evacuate their homes

to allow the bomb squad

1:32:381:32:41

to investigate and they have

been allowed to return.

1:32:411:32:43

Local authorities

are to be allowed to raise

1:32:431:32:45

council tax by up to 6%

1:32:451:32:47

next year.

1:32:471:32:50

That could mean bills could rise

after £200.

1:32:501:32:55

It comes after a relaxation

of the government-imposed cap

1:32:551:32:58

to address shortfalls

in funding for social care.

1:32:581:33:00

The Local Government Association

says councils will still be

1:33:001:33:02

at financial breaking point.

1:33:021:33:03

The European Court of Justice is due

to decide this morning

1:33:031:33:06

whether the taxi hailing app, Uber,

should legally be considered

1:33:061:33:09

a transport company

or a digital services provider.

1:33:091:33:11

The ruling will determine

whether the firm should be subject

1:33:111:33:14

to local licensing laws in

the countries in which it operates.

1:33:141:33:20

The BBC is to broaden its coverage

of religions, devoting more time

1:33:201:33:23

to non-Christian faiths.

1:33:231:33:24

The decision follows a review

of the corporation's output

1:33:241:33:26

in response to claims it was out

of step with its audience.

1:33:261:33:30

There will also be more religion

1:33:301:33:31

reflected in mainstream

programming.

1:33:311:33:35

Those are the main stories this

morning. One other story.

1:33:351:33:41

These days many motorists

are going green,

1:33:411:33:43

buying electric or hybrid

cars, but how about this

1:33:431:33:45

for going back-to-basics?

1:33:451:33:46

Frank Rothwell has modified

1:33:461:33:47

his vehicle so it's

powered by coal.

1:33:471:33:49

It took him more than 1,000 hours

to perfect and he says it's

1:33:491:33:53

passed its MOT and been

declared legal to drive.

1:33:531:34:01

My only concern is the missions with

burning coal.

Also it does look like

1:34:011:34:10

he's making pretty slow progress

with the greatest of respect!

But we

1:34:101:34:15

have a steam engine tractor

correspondent who looks into all of

1:34:151:34:19

these things very carefully. Hi,

Kat.

I would say it's probably a

1:34:191:34:25

steam engine on the road, which

means he will have to keep stoking

1:34:251:34:29

the fire box to keep the fire going,

which boils the water to produce the

1:34:291:34:33

steam.

Which then the Pistons?

I

watch a lot of Thomas The Tank

1:34:331:34:42

Engine.

Your expert knowledge shows!

I'm picking up a lot more from

1:34:421:34:46

Thomas, Henry and James than I

thought I was entertaining my

1:34:461:34:50

toddler on rainy weekends! That's

you're welcome to that information!

1:34:501:34:54

And when you take a break from

Thomas The Tank Engine you watch a

1:34:541:34:59

lot of football?

I do, and what a

game it was last night.

1:34:591:35:02

It went to penalties in the League

Cup quarter-finals, Leicester

1:35:021:35:06

against Manchester City. They both

fielded second strings of players

1:35:061:35:11

because they have so much going on

with their other conditions and

1:35:111:35:15

trophies, so City were, like, look,

we can't have our top players

1:35:151:35:19

playing in every single one of these

cup ties.

They put in their second

1:35:191:35:27

string side and look at that!

Bravo

saved a penalty to put Manchester

1:35:271:35:34

City through and he was an absolute

hero last night.

1:35:341:35:39

Manchester City's magnificent season

continued, as they reached

1:35:391:35:42

the League Cup semi-finals.

1:35:421:35:43

Jamie Vardy scoring

a controversial equaliser

1:35:431:35:45

from the spot seven minutes

into injury time to make it 1-1.

1:35:451:35:49

But it went to penalties,

Vardy missed, and Claudio Bravo

1:35:491:35:51

was the hero, saving

Riyadh Mahrez's attempt.

1:35:511:35:54

Arsenal will also be

in tonight's semi-final draw

1:35:541:35:56

after beating West Ham.

1:35:561:35:58

Danny Wellbeck with

the only goal of the game,

1:35:581:36:01

but there was concern

for Arsene Wenger

1:36:011:36:03

when Olivier Giroud was injured

towards the end of the match.

1:36:031:36:07

The draw will be made

after tonight's matches.

1:36:071:36:09

Chelsea take on Bournemouth,

while holders Manchester United face

1:36:091:36:11

Championship side Bristol City.

1:36:111:36:14

City manager Lee Johnson

is really hoping Jose Mourinho

1:36:141:36:16

pops by after the game.

1:36:161:36:19

I've ordered in a very

expensive bottle of wine,

1:36:191:36:21

I must add.

1:36:211:36:22

I've had to raid my little girl's

piggy bank and everything,

1:36:221:36:25

so I'd be really disappointed

if he doesn't come in and at least

1:36:251:36:29

taste it because it has to be poured

specially it's that good.

1:36:291:36:38

It would be pretty bad form from

Jose Mourinho if he didn't go into

1:36:381:36:42

taste that wine after he had to raid

the manager's daughter's piggybank

1:36:421:36:48

to buy a bottle of wine!

I bet it'll

taste all the sweeter!

Particularly

1:36:481:36:52

if Bristol city win this evening!

1:36:521:36:55

England have lost the Ashes,

and they're 3-0 down

1:36:551:36:58

in the series, it's looking

rather gloomy over in Aus

1:36:581:37:00

but bowler Craig Overton says

he still believes England are not

1:37:001:37:02

Batsman Ben Duckett was one

of those in trouble,

1:37:161:37:19

he poured a drink over

James Anderson's head in a bar

1:37:191:37:22

in Australia and was

given a suspension.

1:37:221:37:24

Now he's been told he won't take

part in the England Lions tour

1:37:241:37:27

to the West Indies next year

because of that incident.

1:37:271:37:34

There was a shock for

the two-time champion

1:37:341:37:36

Adrian Lewis at the PDC

World Darts Championship

1:37:361:37:38

at Alexandra Palace.

1:37:381:37:39

He was beaten by the German

qualifier Kevin Munch

1:37:391:37:41

in the first round.

1:37:411:37:42

Munch ended with eight 180s.

1:37:421:37:44

It's the first time Lewis has been

knocked out in the opening round.

1:37:441:37:47

Former Wimbledon champion

Marion Bartoli has come out

1:37:471:37:50

of retirement and announced

she will return to the WTA

1:37:501:37:52

Tour next year.

1:37:521:37:53

Bartoli, who is now 33,

quit tennis in August 2013 less

1:37:531:37:56

than six weeks after winning her

only grand slam title

1:37:561:37:59

at the All England Club,

citing ongoing injury problems.

1:37:591:38:01

The French player, who reached

a career-high world ranking

1:38:011:38:04

of seventh, intends to make her

comeback at the Miami Open in March.

1:38:041:38:07

She is so much fun, she works with

the BBC at Wimbledon so we get to

1:38:071:38:12

talk to her about who will win and

how the tournament is going and she

1:38:121:38:16

will be back on the grass she hopes

next summer. She had this illness

1:38:161:38:22

that had her fearing for her life,

she retired after winning that one

1:38:221:38:27

grandslam and everyone thought, what

a shame, she has finally done it and

1:38:271:38:31

she could do more but she said I

quite fancy doing something else.

A

1:38:311:38:37

great comeback story.

It would be if

she won another grand slam, it would

1:38:371:38:42

be remarkable, but she is such a

jolly and likeable character, great

1:38:421:38:45

to see her back playing.

1:38:451:38:47

Only a tiny proportion

of new parents in the UK take

1:38:471:38:51

advantage of shared parental leave,

but today an Employment Appeal

1:38:511:38:53

Tribunal will hear a landmark case

which could determine

1:38:531:38:56

whether employers have to pay

fathers the same money

1:38:561:38:58

as they would pay a woman

taking maternity leave.

1:38:581:39:05

Shared parental leave must be taken

between the baby's birth

1:39:051:39:08

and first birthday or within

one year of adoption.

1:39:081:39:10

Eligible parents can share up to 50

weeks of leave and 37 weeks

1:39:101:39:14

of pay, after an initial two weeks

of leave that is compulsory

1:39:141:39:17

for the mother to take.

1:39:171:39:19

It can be taken all at once,

or split into blocks,

1:39:191:39:22

with periods of work in between.

1:39:221:39:23

Joining us now are Lindsey

Bell, an employment

1:39:231:39:26

lawyer, and father-of-two

John Adams, the author

1:39:261:39:28

of Dad Blog UK.

1:39:281:39:31

Good morning to you.

Good morning.

Lindsay, take us through the basics

1:39:311:39:36

of what the court case will

determine and why it is so

1:39:361:39:40

significant.

Already we have certain policies in

1:39:401:39:45

place through legislation which

helps working parents, such as we've

1:39:451:39:49

got paternity leave, we've got

parental leave, and we've got

1:39:491:39:54

maternity leave. This is now talking

about Shared Parental Leave, which

1:39:541:39:58

is something different, which was

brought in in 2014. This particular

1:39:581:40:04

case is one which actually we

advised over a year ago one of our

1:40:041:40:11

clients on this particular issue and

their Shared Parental Leave policy

1:40:111:40:15

and actually Deon Hance maternity

pay that was given to the women

1:40:151:40:20

mothers within the business, whether

that was... Whether we should be

1:40:201:40:24

giving that same amount to the

Father -- enhanced maternity pay.

Is

1:40:241:40:37

the simplistic version that it

should be available to the Father as

1:40:371:40:40

well?

Yes. For maternity leave at

moment it is six weeks 90% at full

1:40:401:40:53

pay, but for the Shared Parental

Leave, it isn't quite the same as a

1:40:531:40:57

base level. Also companies are

giving enhanced maternity leave.

1:40:571:41:01

This is what this case is regarding,

regarding the enhanced maternity

1:41:011:41:07

leave over and above statutory,

which is given to women but not the

1:41:071:41:10

men who want to take the Shared

Parental Leave.

John, you are a

1:41:101:41:14

blogger and you write about your

experiences as a dad and what you've

1:41:141:41:18

been going through, what was your

experience? You're the primary carer

1:41:181:41:22

for your child.

Yes, I'm the main

carer for my two kids. My employer

1:41:221:41:27

when my first daughter was born, I

had different employers for the two

1:41:271:41:32

kids, they were good and they

offered an enhanced package for

1:41:321:41:36

dads.

Was it the same as what the

women would have received?

It

1:41:361:41:39

wasn't.

But it was still in Hance is

on the statutory payments?

It was

1:41:391:41:46

compared to statutory payments --

still in Hance to. It is

1:41:461:41:50

inconsistent in this era not to

offer the same two men and women.

1:41:501:41:54

It's not offering the same at the

same time, it is an either or,

1:41:541:41:58

that's the point that has to be made

to avoid confusion.

I suppose when

1:41:581:42:02

you look at the picture, no one

would say equality shouldn't happen,

1:42:021:42:06

when you look at the picture, the

take-up of men, being the primary

1:42:061:42:11

carer or the main carer for children

after birth is something like 1%

1:42:111:42:16

taking up this parental leave.

It's

about 1% of the entire male

1:42:161:42:21

population, whether they are fathers

or not. About 8% of fathers.

Still

1:42:211:42:27

very small.

It is small but this is

part of the crux of the issue. If

1:42:271:42:32

men aren't getting the same rights

as women then they can't actually

1:42:321:42:35

get involved in family life, they

basically can't afford to take the

1:42:351:42:39

time off so they don't so from the

earliest days they are discriminated

1:42:391:42:42

against.

I'm assuming, Lindsey, part

of the reason these discrepancies

1:42:421:42:47

exist is because of the fundamental

reality, women do give birth. It's

1:42:471:42:53

not the men. I presume that's why

the arrangements as they are have

1:42:531:42:57

been constructive, is that right?

That's right, compulsory maternity

1:42:571:43:01

leave is the first two weeks and

what this particular case is saying

1:43:011:43:05

is the claimant is saying I'm happy

the first two weeks the woman is

1:43:051:43:09

paid as she is paid, but after that

first two weeks, if the mail, and in

1:43:091:43:15

his situation unfortunately his wife

has suffered post-natal depression,

1:43:151:43:20

so she was being encouraged to go

back into work so he was therefore

1:43:201:43:23

having to say I need to take the

childcare, but wasn't being paid at

1:43:231:43:29

the same rate as other female

employees in his workplace for doing

1:43:291:43:32

that. In that situation, and that's

what the courts looked at, actually

1:43:321:43:38

that does seem to be discrimination.

John, what's the consequence of

1:43:381:43:42

this? If this goes in favour of men

getting equal enhanced parental

1:43:421:43:47

leave in terms of companies being

able to afford to do this... At the

1:43:471:43:51

moment you may be in a company that

has a great enhanced package, for

1:43:511:43:57

women, once it's then said you have

to give equally for men and women,

1:43:571:44:01

the pot that's needed to provide

that needs to be bigger and

1:44:011:44:05

therefore the importation is the

enhancements are reduced?

There's

1:44:051:44:08

obviously a risk in Hance and is can

be really stand I have sympathy with

1:44:081:44:13

the business community, there is no

big open pot of cash. In this day

1:44:131:44:24

and age we have outsourced most

heavy industry to Asia, in the West

1:44:241:44:28

intellectual property is the most

important. There's no difference

1:44:281:44:33

between men and women with regards

to how they think and what they can

1:44:331:44:36

do in that way. It sends out a poor

message for female retention in the

1:44:361:44:41

workforce. It's like we say to

women, you take the enhanced package

1:44:411:44:46

and you look after the kids, because

it's the men we want in the

1:44:461:44:50

workforce. There's a message that we

have to get across.

John, thanks for

1:44:501:44:54

your time and Lindsay, thanks for

your time as well.

1:44:541:44:59

You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

1:44:591:45:00

The main stories this morning:

Scotland Yard launches a review

1:45:001:45:03

of all its sex crime investigations

after the collapse of two rape

1:45:031:45:06

prosecutions in one week.

1:45:061:45:08

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in London

1:45:081:45:11

in April has been

jailed for 20 years.

1:45:111:45:19

in April has been

jailed for 20 years.

1:45:191:45:21

in April has been

jailed for 20 years.

1:45:211:45:22

It is drizzly outside, at least on

the roof of central London and that

1:45:221:45:26

is where we

1:45:261:45:27

the roof of central London and that

is where we can find Carol. Good

1:45:271:45:30

morning. If you haven't ventured

outside, it is not a particular cold

1:45:301:45:34

to start the day, certainly not for

the time of year. For many of us

1:45:341:45:38

temperatures are already just about

in double figures or actually in

1:45:381:45:41

double figures and the forecast for

all of us today is a mild one and

1:45:411:45:45

also a fairly cloudy one but later

it will brighten up across Scotland

1:45:451:45:49

and Northern Ireland. So what we

have this morning is a fair bit of

1:45:491:45:53

cloud around and we also have some

fog especially in the south that is

1:45:531:45:57

starting to thin and lift and it

will eventually be in the hills but

1:45:571:46:01

the cloud is big enough for some

drizzle as we have had in London

1:46:011:46:05

this morning. Not just in London. We

have a weather front moving out of

1:46:051:46:08

Scotland into northern England

currently and through the rest of

1:46:081:46:11

the day it will move south into

north-west England and way is,

1:46:111:46:15

meaningful Scotland you will have

bright skies and sunshine with just

1:46:151:46:18

a few showers in the north and west

-- Wales. North-east England in the

1:46:181:46:24

shelter of the Pennines will see

something dry and bright. For the

1:46:241:46:28

Midlands, East Anglia, southern

counties of England generally,

1:46:281:46:31

fairly cloudy for you with some

drizzle here and there at times but

1:46:311:46:34

in the shelter of any hills we will

see some brighter breaks develop.

1:46:341:46:38

For Wales we have the rain getting

into the north of Wales sinking

1:46:381:46:41

southwards through the day but not

particularly heavy. And then for

1:46:411:46:45

Northern Ireland the weather front

will have cleared youth, so back

1:46:451:46:48

into bright skies with some sunshine

as we go through the day --

1:46:481:46:54

Clearview. Most of England and were

is will remain in double figures.

1:46:541:46:58

Now heading through the evening and

overnight period the weather front

1:46:581:47:01

moves southwards across England and

Wales and then by the end of the

1:47:011:47:04

night it changes direction and

instead of moving south it will

1:47:041:47:08

retreat north-east was taking rain

across most of England and way is

1:47:081:47:12

with a lot of cloud but cooler

conditions for Scotland and Northern

1:47:121:47:15

Ireland with some patchy fog,

possibly some frost in sheltered

1:47:151:47:18

glens in Scotland. Tomorrow the rain

clears parts of eastern England

1:47:181:47:22

quite quickly but it will continue

across northern England, Scotland

1:47:221:47:26

and Northern Ireland. Now ahead of

it in the north-east of Scotland...

1:47:261:47:32

and Northern Ireland. Now ahead of

it in the north-east of Scotland...

1:47:321:47:34

Apologies, we seem to have lost the

sound from Carol, but we will get

1:47:341:47:38

her back a little bit later on.

A

little bit lonely when she has no

1:47:381:47:43

way of communicating, she is just up

on her own.

She is probably still

1:47:431:47:46

talking. She gets that view as well.

That is where she is perched this

1:47:461:47:52

morning. It is rather grand. Earlier

on it was quite heavy. We will go

1:47:521:47:58

back to Carol as soon as we can. We

will find her again.

We will. There

1:47:581:48:02

is chatter about whether or not

money should be free in terms of

1:48:021:48:06

charges you should get when you take

cash out of ATMs and whether or not

1:48:061:48:10

we should pay as much as we do. And

if we don't, then, Steph, the

1:48:101:48:15

implications of how many cash

machines are out there.

And a

1:48:151:48:18

dispute about how much banks should

pay to allow the cash machine

1:48:181:48:23

operators to let people take their

money out. Let me explain more

1:48:231:48:27

because we will speak to the boss of

one of the networks in a moment.

1:48:271:48:31

Good morning. This is all about the

interchange fee. For example you

1:48:311:48:36

have the Link network operating

70,000 machines. They charge banks

1:48:361:48:42

25p every time money is withdrawn

from one of their machines and they

1:48:421:48:46

want to cut the feet down to 20p to

help make them more competitive and

1:48:461:48:51

to make them more attractive

compared with other cash machine

1:48:511:48:54

operators. This sounds like good

news but the Warwick is that

1:48:541:48:57

reducing the fee will mean it is

less profitable for other companies

1:48:571:49:02

to run machines and therefore they

will close them -- the worry is.

1:49:021:49:07

This could hit rural areas and it is

something MPs are talking about.

1:49:071:49:10

Let's speak with the boss of Link.

Good morning. There is controversy

1:49:101:49:16

around this. You don't often have us

talking about fees cut as a bad

1:49:161:49:19

thing. What are your thoughts on

what's going on at the moment?

1:49:191:49:24

Access to cash for UK consumers is a

very important issue. We need to

1:49:241:49:28

make sure that everybody in the UK

can get access to cash through a

1:49:281:49:32

free ATM whether that is in the city

centre, whether it is in a small

1:49:321:49:36

town or village and Link's job is to

make sure it is free for every

1:49:361:49:41

consumer for years to come.

The

chair of the Treasury Select

1:49:411:49:45

Committee Nicky Morgan contacted

your company, the chairman, to say

1:49:451:49:49

they are concerned about this

reducing the number of cash

1:49:491:49:52

machines.

It is very important that

Link, which is a regulated company,

1:49:521:49:58

regulated by the Bank of England, by

the payment systems regulator, we

1:49:581:50:02

are a not-for-profit entity to make

sure that the public has access to

1:50:021:50:07

cash through ATMs. We need to make

sure we can account for our actions

1:50:071:50:11

and demonstrate to regulators and

organisations like the Treasury

1:50:111:50:15

Select Committee that we are doing

our job properly and making sure

1:50:151:50:18

we've got the extensive, free

network of ATMs for years to come

1:50:181:50:21

into the future and that is all it

intends to do.

Do you think there is

1:50:211:50:26

a genuine concern about rural

communities losing cash machines?

1:50:261:50:30

Quite the opposite. Consumers have

nothing to be concerned about. We do

1:50:301:50:36

think that there are too many ATMs

going into city centres. We are

1:50:361:50:40

planning to bring down the amount of

money we pay to the operators for

1:50:401:50:44

the centres of big cities because we

don't think we need more than the 50

1:50:441:50:48

or 60 machines we tend to find in

city centres. Within smaller towns

1:50:481:50:52

and villages and in rural areas we

want to put the price up because

1:50:521:50:56

those are the sort of communities

where we need to make sure we've got

1:50:561:50:59

free access to cash, not just now,

but for ten, 20 years into the

1:50:591:51:05

future.

But this is something MPs

are genuinely worried about. They

1:51:051:51:09

are worried there is going to be a

hit in rural communities. So what

1:51:091:51:13

are you going to do to prove that

there is not?

We need to demonstrate

1:51:131:51:17

we are going to increase their

spending on ATMs in rural

1:51:171:51:20

communities. We've already committed

that every single community large

1:51:201:51:24

and small we will defend and make

sure it has free ATMs and that is

1:51:241:51:29

the sort of evidence I would expect

MPs quite rightly to be asking Link

1:51:291:51:33

and that is the sort of evidence we

will provide.

OK, John, thank you

1:51:331:51:36

for your time. The boss of Link

which as I say runs the network of

1:51:361:51:40

cash machines around 70,000 cash

machines across the country.

So cash

1:51:401:51:44

machine fact - when do you think the

busiest time of year is and what

1:51:441:51:50

Allah in the day?

It has to be a

couple of days before Christmas when

1:51:501:51:54

you know you won't be leaving the

house -- hour. I don't know, this

1:51:541:51:58

Friday or Saturday.

I love you. You

are so right. It is between 12pm and

1:51:581:52:04

1pm the Friday before Christmas.

Is

that right?

Yes, she is so smart.

I

1:52:041:52:08

am just one of those people who

panics at the weekend.

People will

1:52:081:52:16

be sympathising with you.

And what

are you going to do without cash,

1:52:161:52:20

what you are going to do is go and

by a Christmas sweater.

I am really

1:52:201:52:26

not going to do that.

Some people do

that.

1:52:261:52:30

More and more owners

are splashing out on luxury items

1:52:301:52:33

for their four-legged friends.

1:52:331:52:34

As Fiona Lamdin has

been finding out.

1:52:341:52:40

More and more are dressing dogs

in Christmas costumes.

1:52:401:52:42

Just last week, 300 dogs in jumpers

smashed a world record in London.

1:52:421:52:46

# The weather outside

is a frightful, but the fire

1:52:461:52:49

is so delightful.

1:52:491:52:55

Not hugely surprising

we are spending a lot more on them.

1:52:551:52:58

Just a couple of miles across town,

much thought and planning has gone

1:52:581:53:02

in to Suki's wardrobe.

1:53:021:53:03

On Christmas Day she will have

three changes of clothes.

1:53:031:53:11

When I was a kid my parents got me

clothes for Christmas,

1:53:111:53:14

and I was excited to wear

the clothes, going to see my family

1:53:141:53:18

on Christmas dinner,

so it is kind of the same thing.

1:53:181:53:20

She is like my daughter.

1:53:201:53:22

I am like, whoa, she is.

1:53:221:53:24

It is not just clothes.

1:53:241:53:25

She will have a small mountain

of presents under the tree.

1:53:251:53:28

I think we spend more money

on her than on each other.

1:53:281:53:32

If you come to the kitchen,

there is a section for her

1:53:321:53:36

in the fridge.

1:53:361:53:36

So you can start the day

with a mince pie, and your

1:53:361:53:40

Christmas dinner.

1:53:401:53:41

And it seems Suki isn't alone.

1:53:411:53:42

Around the corner at

the local groomers...

1:53:421:53:47

We have given her

a lovely warm bath.

1:53:471:53:49

I can't keep the stock

on the shelves long enough.

1:53:491:53:52

Sometimes I come in and wonder

what I am going to fill them with.

1:53:521:53:55

Let's look around for things to get

in quickly because we can't keep up.

1:53:551:54:02

I have to admit it is

a whole new world.

1:54:021:54:04

I adore my dog Mouse,

but I have never bought him

1:54:041:54:07

a Christmas present before.

1:54:071:54:08

There are so many

things I could get him.

1:54:081:54:11

A raincoat, socks, or even boots.

1:54:111:54:17

UK consumers are spending more every

year on accessories for pets.

1:54:171:54:20

Just over £900 million is expected

to be spent in 2017,

1:54:201:54:23

that is up 16% since 2012.

1:54:231:54:25

This is an ongoing shift

towards treating pets much

1:54:251:54:27

more like people.

1:54:271:54:28

This really comes from the really

strong parent bond between

1:54:281:54:31

owners and pets.

1:54:311:54:45

# Let it snow, let it

snow, let it snow.

1:54:451:54:47

It is nice to have a

jacket when it is cold.

1:54:471:54:50

I am buying my friends'

dog a present.

1:54:501:54:53

The more that you treat your dog

like a human, the more likely

1:54:531:54:57

they are to develop

behavioural problems.

1:54:571:55:04

Shall we get your stocking?

1:55:041:55:06

Many dogs across the country

will have something under the tree,

1:55:061:55:09

though I am not so sure

how many of us will be

1:55:091:55:12

in matching attire.

1:55:121:55:23

Would you do it to your dog?

I

wouldn't do it to my cat.

Here is

1:55:231:55:34

Molly. She looks quite pleased. She

is very happy sporting her Santa

1:55:341:55:39

hat. Next picture is Olli and Dizzy.

Trying to work it out. Mary and

1:55:391:55:50

Joseph and baby Jesus in the middle.

Is that right?

Oh, cats. This is the

1:55:501:56:03

face my cats would pull if I dressed

them up. This is Dave dressed up in

1:56:031:56:08

his elf costume.

Yeah, Dave looks

like he just can't tolerate it for a

1:56:081:56:18

very short period of time.

That is

"Plaiting revenge" Faith --

1:56:181:56:27

"plotting revenge".

1:56:271:59:50

in half an hour.

1:59:501:59:51

Goodbye for now.

1:59:511:59:51

Hello.

2:00:232:00:27

This is Breakfast with Charlie Stayt

and Naga Munchetty.

2:00:272:00:30

Scotland Yard launches a review

of all sex crime investigations

2:00:302:00:33

after the collapse of two rape

prosecutions in one week.

2:00:332:00:35

The Metropolitan Police confirms

the same detective was involved

2:00:352:00:39

in both cases and begins

re-examining the the way

2:00:392:00:41

it handles evidence.

2:00:412:00:42

Good morning.

It's Wednesday, 20th December.

2:00:552:00:57

Also this morning:

2:00:572:01:00

The start of a 20 year jail sentence

for the man who threw acid

2:01:002:01:04

across a packed London nightclub

injuring 22 people -

2:01:042:01:06

victims told the court

how his actions have

2:01:062:01:08

changed their lives.

2:01:082:01:14

It's just very hard to deal with it

and try and carry on like normal

2:01:142:01:19

because I know I'm never going to be

the same girl that walked into

2:01:192:01:22

Mangle that night.

More people are sleeping on the

2:01:222:01:28

streets. MPs describe the situation

as a national crisis.

2:01:282:01:33

Everyone will get the right to

request fast broadband. It is part

2:01:332:01:36

of plans outlined by the Government

this morning. I will have the

2:01:362:01:39

details shortly.

2:01:392:01:42

In sport, Bravo for Manchester City

as the keeper makes the save that

2:01:422:01:45

takes them into the semi-finals

of the League Cup.

2:01:452:01:50

# Ain't nobody loves better...

2:01:502:01:54

Could singing help mums combat

post-natal depression?

2:01:542:01:56

We have a first look

as the latest research.

2:01:562:02:01

And Carol has the weather.

It is a

mild start to the day for most of

2:02:012:02:05

the UK. But it is a cloudy one and a

damp one. We've got drizzle in the

2:02:052:02:09

south and rain moving out of

Scotland into northern England and

2:02:092:02:12

into Wales and the West Midlands,

but behind it for Northern Ireland

2:02:122:02:15

and Scotland, it will brighten up,

but I'll have more in 15 minutes.

2:02:152:02:18

Thank you.

2:02:182:02:22

The Metropolitan Police is launching

a review of all current sex

2:02:222:02:25

offence investigations,

after the collapse of a second

2:02:252:02:27

rape case in a week.

2:02:272:02:30

The prosecutions were halted

because of the late

2:02:302:02:32

disclosure of evidence.

2:02:322:02:33

Scotland Yard confirmed the same

officer was involved

2:02:332:02:35

in both investigations.

2:02:352:02:37

Our reporter Keith Doyle has more.

2:02:372:02:41

The rape case against 22-year-old

Liam Allen collapsed last week

2:02:412:02:51

after it emerged vital evidence that

helped his defence had not been

2:02:542:02:57

released by the prosecution.

2:02:572:02:58

For two years he'd faced a trial

that ended only after thousands

2:02:582:03:01

of texts the prosecution had

from his accuser were

2:03:012:03:03

finally disclosed.

2:03:032:03:04

No one was really investigating,

"How can we show he's innocent?"

2:03:042:03:06

People were investigating,

"How can we prove he's guilty?"

2:03:062:03:11

Maybe that was what was wrong.

2:03:112:03:12

Under the British legal system,

the prosecution must hand over any

2:03:122:03:15

evidence it holds that may help

a person on trial.

2:03:152:03:19

Now a second case, that

of 22-year-old Isaac Itiary,

2:03:192:03:21

who was charged with rape and other

sexual offences, has collapsed

2:03:212:03:24

for similar reasons.

2:03:242:03:27

As a result, Scotland Yard has said

it's reviewing every

2:03:272:03:29

current sex crime case.

2:03:292:03:36

In a statement it said:

2:03:362:03:37

It has also emerged

that the same detective

2:03:512:03:54

is involved in both cases

and is still working on full

2:03:542:03:57

duty in the Met's Sexual

Offences Investigation Unit.

2:03:572:03:59

It's not known exactly how many

cases are being reviewed.

2:03:592:04:05

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in April,

2:04:062:04:10

has been jailed for 20 years.

2:04:102:04:12

25-year-old Arthur Collins

injured 22 people at

2:04:122:04:14

the venue in East London.

2:04:142:04:17

The judge called his actions

deliberate and calculated.

2:04:172:04:19

Some of the victims were temporarily

blinded, others were left

2:04:192:04:21

with permanent scars.

2:04:212:04:30

The Government is being accused

of "abject failure" in its attempt

2:04:302:04:32

to tackle homelessness in England.

2:04:322:04:34

A damning report by the all-party

Public Accounts Committee says

2:04:342:04:36

the issue has become

a national crisis.

2:04:362:04:38

The government says it's investing

more than £1 billion to help make

2:04:382:04:41

more affordable housing available.

2:04:412:04:50

This report says the problem

of homelessness has been growing

2:04:572:05:00

for years, with a number of people

in short-term accommodation up

2:05:002:05:02

by 60% since 2010.

2:05:022:05:03

The MPs say there is

an unacceptable shortage

2:05:032:05:05

of realistic housing options.

2:05:052:05:06

There are estimated to be 9,000

people sleeping rough on the streets

2:05:062:05:09

every night, that's more

than doubled the number in 2011.

2:05:092:05:12

There are a further 78,000 families

living in temporary accommodation,

2:05:122:05:14

often of a poor standard,

and that includes 120,000 children.

2:05:142:05:17

The committee has described

the situation as shameful.

2:05:172:05:18

It's called on the government

to focus on the supply

2:05:182:05:21

and affordability of decent housing.

2:05:212:05:24

You need to stop being

complacent about this.

2:05:242:05:28

It is not enough also

to just throw money at it,

2:05:282:05:31

it needs to be money that is fixing

the core root of the problem,

2:05:312:05:34

that looks at why people

are homeless in the first place.

2:05:342:05:37

Critically you need to be

building more houses,

2:05:372:05:39

yes, but they need to be

truly affordable houses.

2:05:392:05:43

The committee now wants

the government to come up

2:05:432:05:45

with a strategy for tackling

the issue by the middle

2:05:452:05:48

of next year.

2:05:482:05:49

Labour said this report showed

the Conservatives had caused

2:05:492:05:51

the crisis of rapidly rising

homelessness but had no plans

2:05:512:05:54

to fix it.

2:05:542:05:56

The Government said homelessness

was a complex problem

2:05:562:05:58

and it was providing over £1 billion

over the next few years to help deal

2:05:582:06:02

with the issue.

2:06:022:06:08

Police will continue

searching two properties,

2:06:082:06:13

including a community

centre this morning,

2:06:132:06:15

following anti-terror

raids in Sheffield and Chesterfield.

2:06:152:06:17

Four men were arrested

and are being held over an alleged

2:06:172:06:21

Islamist terror plot that officers

say could have been carried

2:06:212:06:24

out over Christmas.

2:06:242:06:25

Our correspondent Phil Bodmer

is in Sheffield this morning.

2:06:252:06:29

Phil, bring us up-to-date.

Yes,

Charlie, there is still a sizeable

2:06:292:06:35

police presence here in Sheffield.

This is a community centre where one

2:06:352:06:40

of the raids was carried out

yesterday. Bomb disposal teams

2:06:402:06:43

attended the scene as a precaution

as the cordon was extended late

2:06:432:06:47

yesterday afternoon and all this

morning we have seen police officers

2:06:472:06:49

coming and going. We are expecting

those searches to resume here again

2:06:492:06:53

today and also at another address in

of Chesterfield. That too was raided

2:06:532:07:02

and bomb disposal teams attended

that address as well. Raids were

2:07:022:07:04

also carried out in another area of

Sheffield as well. As you mentioned,

2:07:042:07:12

four people remain in custody. They

are being questioned at a West

2:07:122:07:16

Yorkshire Police station. Local

people have been telling the BBC how

2:07:162:07:19

they were alarmed by being awoken

yesterday morning at this time by

2:07:192:07:23

early morning raids and the sound of

explosions. The police say they

2:07:232:07:28

understand that the scenes yesterday

and indeed today may cause alarm and

2:07:282:07:32

distress, but they say this really

is a matter of public protection and

2:07:322:07:36

they say don't worry about it too

much, be vigilant and stay vigilant,

2:07:362:07:41

but continue to go about your

business. We're expecting more

2:07:412:07:44

searches to continue here today.

2:07:442:07:52

Local authorities are to be allowed

to raise council tax by up

2:07:522:07:56

to almost 6% next

year which could mean

2:07:562:07:58

bills rising by £200.

2:07:582:07:59

It comes after a relaxation

of the government-imposed cap

2:07:592:08:01

to address shortfalls in funding

for social care.

2:08:012:08:03

The Local Government Association

says councils will still be

2:08:032:08:05

at financial breaking point.

2:08:052:08:11

The European Court of Justice is due

to decide this morning

2:08:112:08:14

whether the taxi hailing app,

Uber, should legally be considered

2:08:142:08:17

a transport company,

or a digital services provider.

2:08:172:08:19

The ruling will determine

whether the firm should be subject

2:08:192:08:21

to local licensing laws

in the countries

2:08:212:08:23

in which it operates.

2:08:232:08:33

The Government has announced plans

to improve broadband speeds in rural

2:08:372:08:41

areas.

When you talk about it,

everyone moans. The Government is

2:08:412:08:45

talking about this saying they

should get ten megabits per second.

2:08:452:08:52

Well, that's the same as you know if

you're streaming something online,

2:08:522:08:57

it's not good enough for that, but

it is good enough to actually be

2:08:572:09:09

able to download something, but not

stream a movie.

Where do the issues

2:09:092:09:13

lie? Is it about government

regulation or more to do what the

2:09:132:09:17

providers are prepared to offer.

They say we can offer you 200, but

2:09:172:09:23

it is always up to, isn't it?

Around

87% of the country has seen some

2:09:232:09:30

type of broadband upgrade, but when

you look at what people are getting,

2:09:302:09:34

a lot haven't got full fibre so the

means to be able to get the

2:09:342:09:38

broadband speed they are being

offered by the provider and it does

2:09:382:09:42

vary widely. It isn't just about

rural areas, but that's what the

2:09:422:09:45

Government are saying they want to

do. They want to make it easier for

2:09:452:09:49

people to get the speed they require

and they will be able to request

2:09:492:09:52

this. So they will be able to say,

"I am not getting ten megabits per

2:09:522:09:57

second and I should be." It will

become a compulsory thing, but how

2:09:572:10:01

they do this is a problem because

the infrastructure is so Old and you

2:10:012:10:07

have got the likes of BT which owns

Openreach, the company that provides

2:10:072:10:11

a lot of the network. You have got

them saying, "We want to do this

2:10:112:10:15

faster, but we need investment. We

need more money." Which is something

2:10:152:10:19

we'd have to pay for. This is where

the complications are, but what the

2:10:192:10:23

Government is saying we want to make

sure everyone is getting ten

2:10:232:10:26

megabits per second by 2020.

Steph, we will talk about it again.

2:10:262:10:34

And life will have moved on and we

will have eaten even more by then!

2:10:342:10:41

The BBC is to broaden its coverage

of religions, devoting more time

2:10:412:10:43

to non-Christian faiths.

2:10:432:10:45

The decision follows a review

of the Corporation's output

2:10:452:10:47

in response to claims it was out

of step with its audience.

2:10:472:10:50

There will also be more religion

reflected in mainstream programming.

2:10:502:10:57

Pictures have emerged of a massive

volcanic eruption in Equador. The

2:10:572:11:02

pictures have been sped up. They

were taken by a British

2:11:022:11:04

photographer. This shows the

volcano's first major activity in

2:11:042:11:09

more than a decade. It did cause

significant damage to pipelines and

2:11:092:11:13

a nearby valley, but the local

communities, they were not under

2:11:132:11:17

threat. Gosh, what a magnificent

sight.

2:11:172:11:22

Those are the main stories this

morning. The time is 8.11am, we will

2:11:222:11:26

have the weather and sport coming up

later on.

2:11:262:11:32

Scared, traumatised and suicidal -

the words used by victims of an acid

2:11:322:11:35

attack at a nightclub in London.

2:11:352:11:37

22 people were injured,

and many left with permanent scars.

2:11:372:11:39

Yesterday the man responsible,

Arthur Collins, was

2:11:392:11:41

jailed for 20 years.

2:11:412:11:42

We'll hear more about that

in a moment, first here's what some

2:11:422:11:45

of those affected told us

about their experience.

2:11:452:11:48

I think that night I just

remember the sheer panic.

2:11:482:11:52

The fear, the pain, more

importantly, the pain.

2:11:522:11:57

The smell, the smell

of the chemicals and your skin

2:11:572:12:01

blistering, and there's absolutely

nothing you can do about it.

2:12:012:12:07

I consider myself lucky and my scars

may be small to some,

2:12:072:12:09

they may be hidden but they are huge

to me, they are something

2:12:092:12:12

I have to wake up and look

at every day in the mirror.

2:12:122:12:16

It's not just my physical

appearance, that may look OK and it

2:12:162:12:19

may look like I'm getting

on with life, because I am, I

2:12:192:12:21

wouldn't want to let that defeat me.

2:12:212:12:24

When you are out, like,

just a splash of somebody's

2:12:242:12:26

drink on your arm, like,

brings the worst things

2:12:262:12:29

through your head.

2:12:292:12:30

So it's just very hard

to deal with and try

2:12:302:12:32

and carry on like normal,

because I know I'm never going to be

2:12:322:12:35

the same girl that, like,

walked into Mangle that night,

2:12:352:12:38

but just trying to get as close back

to that as possible.

2:12:382:12:47

Ayesha Nayyar is a solicitor

who represented some

2:12:472:12:49

of Arthur Collins' victims in court.

2:12:492:12:50

Let's talk about the sentence. The

reaction of those you represented.

2:12:502:12:55

They were relieved, 25 years, 20 of

which is a custodial sentence is the

2:12:552:13:00

largest acid sentence that's been

passed in this country, but what we

2:13:002:13:03

have to bear in mind this was also

the largest acid attack that has

2:13:032:13:07

ever happened in the UK.

Is that

what your clients wanted? They

2:13:072:13:10

wanted to see a sentence of this

magnitude?

We wanted a long sentence

2:13:102:13:15

so it passed out the right message

that you cannot carry acid, you

2:13:152:13:18

cannot use it. We wanted this acid

attack to be an example to show that

2:13:182:13:24

long sentences will be passed and

hopefully act as a deterrent.

2:13:242:13:31

It is so harrowing from all of those

who were there. On the sentencing

2:13:312:13:35

guidelines, often in these cases,

there is a fear sometimes, we have

2:13:352:13:39

had this story played out many times

when people complain that sentences

2:13:392:13:44

are not stiff enough, what do you

think were the determining factors

2:13:442:13:46

that made the judge go for such a

harsh sentence, the further end of

2:13:462:13:50

what could have been given out?

Well, it was 22 people that were

2:13:502:13:53

injured in the nightclub. There were

five counts of grievous bodily harm,

2:13:532:13:57

there were nine counts of assault

occasioning bodily harm. Arthur

2:13:572:14:03

Collins chose to plead not guilty

and chose to make his victims give

2:14:032:14:06

evidence in a long five week trial

and it was harrowing at times to sit

2:14:062:14:10

there and watch what was unfolding

and the victims had to relive the

2:14:102:14:14

events of the night all over again.

I think the judge was aware and he

2:14:142:14:18

passed comments in sentencing that

acid attacks are on the rise and he

2:14:182:14:22

wanted people to be aware that acid

attacks need to be stopped and so

2:14:222:14:26

the long sentence, it was called

for.

2:14:262:14:29

We've heard from some of the victims

talking about how they feel and the

2:14:292:14:32

after effects and one woman saying

if a drink falls on her arm now, and

2:14:322:14:37

she is in a bar, she is

automatically concerned she is being

2:14:372:14:40

attacked again. You heard some of

the victim's statements in court.

2:14:402:14:43

What kinds of things were they

saying?

Oh, it was harrowing as I

2:14:432:14:47

say to listen to. I have been a

solicitor for a very long time and

2:14:472:14:50

to sit there and watch these

personal victims statements read

2:14:502:14:54

out. They chose, they were very,

very brave, the girls they chose to

2:14:542:14:57

read the statements out. They broke

down as they read them. They

2:14:572:15:01

described their lives just changing

forever. As I say, three of the

2:15:012:15:05

victims read out statements. There

were lots of others that were

2:15:052:15:08

affected and these were life

changing injuries. It is not the

2:15:082:15:10

physical injuries, it is the

psychological impact of being

2:15:102:15:13

involved in a horrific acid attack

and they are scared to go out,

2:15:132:15:18

flashbacks and nightmares. One of

them described having suicidal

2:15:182:15:21

thoughts and anybody at home

listening today has to be aware that

2:15:212:15:25

acid really does have life changing

affects.

2:15:252:15:31

Does this sentence mean that the

next time someone is in court

2:15:312:15:35

charged and found guilty of an acid

attack that necessarily the marker

2:15:352:15:40

is that much higher. How does the

legal system respond to a sentence

2:15:402:15:45

like this or could it go the other

way next time? How does that work?

2:15:452:15:50

Every case is different, but a

precedent has been set that acid

2:15:502:15:55

attacks will carry a long sentence.

Does that help people move on? You

2:15:552:16:06

have mentioned the psychological

impact. That is one point.

They're

2:16:062:16:11

relieved a line can the drawn under

the sentence and the case.

2:16:112:16:15

Obviously, they have got a long way

to rebuild their lives. They're

2:16:152:16:19

still having treatment. One of my

clients is having skin grafts one

2:16:192:16:24

still has to use eye drops each day.

It goes some way to closure, but the

2:16:242:16:30

effects they will live with for a

long time.

It feels like a new

2:16:302:16:35

phenomenon.

Absolutely.

What does it

compare to in other forms, we have

2:16:352:16:41

been familiar with other forms of

attack, sort of physical assaults of

2:16:412:16:47

different kinds, this feels sort of

different. Is it because to some

2:16:472:16:54

degree the numbers involved it was

random as to who could be affected?

2:16:542:17:01

Yes this was indiscriminate, he

didn't throw it once, but three

2:17:012:17:05

times in a packed nightclub, acid

attacks are on the rise, figures

2:17:052:17:11

show there are on average two

attacks in the UK a day. The number

2:17:112:17:16

of attacks have doubled in the last

three years, particularly in London.

2:17:162:17:20

This happened in east London at a

nightclub, acid attacks, the highest

2:17:202:17:26

concentration in the area of that

particular area. What is scary about

2:17:262:17:32

this is you can maim a large number

of people with just a couple of

2:17:322:17:37

flicks of your wrist.

Questions, not

directly from your legal case, but

2:17:372:17:43

questions will be asked about access

to the materials that are used in

2:17:432:17:48

these attacks. That must be a

question to be asked?

Yes what is

2:17:482:17:54

scary, you can go into a shop and

buy acid under the age of 18. You

2:17:542:17:59

can't buy cigarettes, but you can

buy acid that you can throw in

2:17:592:18:05

someone's face. Something has to be

done about the use of acid in the

2:18:052:18:08

country.

Thank you. Who The time is

18 minutes past 8. The last time we

2:18:082:18:22

spoke to Carol, she left us in a

way. Have we got you back?

2:18:222:18:26

spoke to Carol, she left us in a

way. Have we got you back?

You have

2:18:262:18:29

good morning to you. I'm on the roof

of Broadcasting House in London it

2:18:292:18:35

has been drizzly, but it has

stopped. But there is a lot of cloud

2:18:352:18:39

and some fog that is now starting to

lift. For most of the UK it is going

2:18:392:18:43

to be cloudy and it is going to be

mild. It is much milder this morning

2:18:432:18:48

than it was yesterday. So what we

have is a weather front moving out

2:18:482:18:53

of Scotland into northern England

and through the course of the day

2:18:532:18:55

that will continue to journey

southwards getting into Wales and

2:18:552:19:00

the west Midlands. But there is a

lot of cloud across England and

2:19:002:19:04

Wales and some fog. The fog lifting

into the hills and in the shelter of

2:19:042:19:09

the hills some breaks. Behind the

front brighter skies for Northern

2:19:092:19:14

Ireland and Scotland. In Scotland

this afternoon some sunny spells and

2:19:142:19:19

some showers in the north-west.

Temperatures up to 10. For

2:19:192:19:23

north-west England, we have the

front producing some patchy rain. In

2:19:232:19:30

north-east England drier and

brighter. Across the Midlands into

2:19:302:19:35

East Anglia and the south still a

lot of cloud, some drizzle here and

2:19:352:19:38

there. But in the shelter of the

hills that is where we will see some

2:19:382:19:43

brighter breaks. For Wales, the

weather front affecting the north

2:19:432:19:48

bringing some patchy rain and that

will sink south through the day. For

2:19:482:19:52

Northern Ireland, during the other

side of the front, brighter skies

2:19:522:19:56

for you, from the world go and

continuing to brighten up through

2:19:562:20:00

the day. Through the evening and

over night the front continues to

2:20:002:20:06

travel south, taking the rain with

it. You will find it will flip

2:20:062:20:11

around and push north-east wards

taking the rain back into northern

2:20:112:20:14

England and East Anglia and the

south-east. Behind that in the South

2:20:142:20:17

West, parts of Wales, the Midlands,

a lot of cloud and fog patches and

2:20:172:20:26

some clearer skies. Tomorrow, the

rain clears eastern England quickly.

2:20:262:20:31

Leaving England and Wales cloudy

some breaks. And it moves through

2:20:312:20:35

Northern Ireland into Scotland and

continues to journey north-east

2:20:352:20:38

through the rest of the day. It

clears by Friday and a ridge of high

2:20:382:20:43

pressure will be upon us and things

will be more settled and drier and

2:20:432:20:48

brighter. But there will be some

showers in the west and they will

2:20:482:20:53

get in across the Channel Islands.

As we head towards Christmas Day,

2:20:532:21:00

just a bit more unsettled and for

Christmas Day it looks like the only

2:21:002:21:06

part of UK likely to potentially to

have a white Christmas is somewhere

2:21:062:21:12

in Scotland.

Thank you.

2:21:122:21:17

have a white Christmas is somewhere

in Scotland.

Thank you.

2:21:172:21:25

Let's go back to our lead story now

and the Metropolitan Police

2:21:252:21:28

is launching a review of all current

sex offence investigations,

2:21:282:21:30

after the collapse of a second rape

case in a week.

2:21:302:21:33

The prosecutions were halted

because of the late

2:21:332:21:35

disclosure of evidence.

2:21:352:21:38

Scotland Yard confirmed the same

officer was involved

2:21:382:21:40

in both investigations.

2:21:402:21:41

So what implications

could this review have?

2:21:412:21:42

Let's ask Hamish Brown who who spent

31 years with the force

2:21:422:21:45

and investigated many rape cases.

2:21:452:21:48

Thank you for joining us.

Pleasure.

Many people will be hearing these

2:21:482:21:54

two cases in a week where evidence

has been withheld is perhaps the

2:21:542:22:01

wrong word, but wasn't submitted in

a timely fashion. Can you take us

2:22:012:22:05

through the process in cases such as

this when it comes to evidence being

2:22:052:22:09

handed over?

Yes, this process is

known as unused material. It has

2:22:092:22:15

been with the police and has been

with the criminal justice system

2:22:152:22:20

since the nineties, the infamous

Guinness trial, material was held

2:22:202:22:24

back and it is part of a formal

process. The situation is the

2:22:242:22:29

prosecution is based on statements

of victims, of witnesses and people

2:22:292:22:34

like that. And there might be

exhibits or other documents. That is

2:22:342:22:39

given to the defence a the

prosecution defence decide who will

2:22:392:22:44

be called to give evidence. There

might be material outside that,

2:22:442:22:48

which the police deem isn't

relevant, doesn't take matter

2:22:482:22:52

further, that is fine. But the

situation is that has to be

2:22:522:22:57

disclosed to the defence and they

ultimately will have the final say

2:22:572:23:01

if they want to use that material.

When does the situation arise that

2:23:012:23:07

this material isn't disclosed to the

defence for the defence to be able

2:23:072:23:09

to make that judgment?

Well, there

are some rare situations, sensitive

2:23:092:23:16

material, the disclosing of a police

operation, maybe an informant, that

2:23:162:23:20

sort of thing. In those

circumstances, the prosecution will

2:23:202:23:25

go to the judge privately, explain

the position and the judge will make

2:23:252:23:29

a ruling. But really in most cases

the unused material will be

2:23:292:23:34

disclosed to the defence. Tinge

problem here -- I think the problem

2:23:342:23:38

here is the amount of work that is

involved it is a huge amount and it

2:23:382:23:43

is a big commitment. My concern

unless the police are properly

2:23:432:23:48

staffed we might see this again.

In

one of these cases, Liam Allan, it

2:23:482:23:57

was a series of phone records, a

large number of phone records that

2:23:572:24:01

were disclosed. How could that not

have been put to the defence in the

2:24:012:24:05

first place?

Well, one wonders were

the phone records known, the

2:24:052:24:13

contents might not, and maybe this

was overlooked and maybe it was the

2:24:132:24:17

pressure of work that it wasn't

disclosed. Unused material has been

2:24:172:24:23

in the system a long time. So the

police know full well it has got to

2:24:232:24:27

be disclosed. And it's wrong that it

wasn't.

Talk to me with, having 31

2:24:272:24:41

years s experience and staffing

levels and workload, how is that

2:24:412:24:45

affecting the disclose your of

evidence?

It is a huge commitment.

2:24:452:24:54

On major inquiries, often an officer

will be written off to deal with it

2:24:542:25:01

and on day-to-day investigations one

officer might be doing everything

2:25:012:25:07

and perhaps it it gets too much.

What is timely in these cases? Give

2:25:072:25:12

me the time scale that evidence

should be procured and sifted

2:25:122:25:17

through and presented?

Ideally as

soon as possible. I don't think

2:25:172:25:22

there are any particular limits on

it, statements are taken from

2:25:222:25:26

witnesses and it is given to the

Crown Prosecution Service and the

2:25:262:25:31

Crown Prosecution Service will serve

that on the defence when they have

2:25:312:25:35

their case together. Then comes

other documents, other material,

2:25:352:25:39

which will come to light.

Ultimately, we are going to have the

2:25:392:25:44

unused material which the crown feel

doesn't takes matters further and

2:25:442:25:49

they don't intend using. But it is

the defence who will have the last

2:25:492:25:53

say on whether they want to use it.

Now a review has been announced,

2:25:532:25:57

what do you think this will entail,

how effective do you think it could

2:25:572:26:01

be and by when?

I wonder what the

review's going to achieve. The

2:26:012:26:07

police will be reminded about the

importance of unused material, which

2:26:072:26:11

they know any way, perhaps there

will be more supervision. I think it

2:26:112:26:19

is going to highlight the

Metropolitan Police have lost 10,000

2:26:192:26:24

police officers so, there has to be

some give somewhere. I think better

2:26:242:26:28

staffing, that sort of thing. I'm

satisfied the training is good and

2:26:282:26:33

the awareness should be good as

well. But here they fell short.

2:26:332:26:43

Hamish Brown, thank you for joining

us and explaining that.

2:26:432:26:52

You're watching Breakfast.

2:26:522:26:57

Bruce dick inson will join us. Time

for the news where you are.

2:26:572:30:20

That's all, I have a brief update

just after 9am on BBC One. Goodbye

2:30:202:30:24

for now.

2:30:242:30:25

Hello this is Breakfast, with

Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty.

2:30:302:30:34

The main stories this morning...

2:30:342:30:37

The Metropolitan Police is launching

a review of all its current sex

2:30:372:30:40

offence investigations

after the collapse of a second

2:30:402:30:42

rape case in a week.

2:30:422:30:44

The prosecutions were halted

because of the late

2:30:442:30:46

disclosure of evidence.

2:30:462:30:47

Scotland Yard has confirmed the same

officer was involved

2:30:472:30:49

in both investigations.

2:30:492:30:52

A man who threw acid over people

in a crowded nightclub in April

2:30:522:30:55

has been jailed for 20 years.

2:30:552:30:57

25-year-old Arthur Collins

injured 22 people at

2:30:572:30:59

the venue in East London.

2:30:592:31:01

The judge called his actions

deliberate and calculated.

2:31:012:31:03

Some of the victims were temporarily

blinded, others were left

2:31:032:31:06

with permanent scars.

2:31:062:31:09

The government is being accused

of "abject failure" in its attempt

2:31:092:31:11

to tackle homelessness in England.

2:31:112:31:14

A damning report by the all-party

Public Accounts Committee says

2:31:142:31:16

the issue has become

a national crisis.

2:31:162:31:18

The government says it's investing

more than £1 billion to help make

2:31:182:31:21

more affordable housing available.

2:31:212:31:24

Police will continue

searching two properties,

2:31:242:31:29

including a community

centre this morning,

2:31:292:31:30

following anti-terror

2:31:302:31:31

raids in Sheffield and Chesterfield.

2:31:312:31:33

Four men have been arrested and held

over an alleged Islamist terror plot

2:31:332:31:36

that officers say could have been

carried out this Christmas.

2:31:362:31:38

People forced to evacuate

their homes to allow the bomb

2:31:382:31:40

squad to investigate,

have now been allowed to return.

2:31:402:31:44

Local authorities are to be allowed

to raise council tax by up

2:31:442:31:47

to almost 6% next year, which could

mean bills rising by £200.

2:31:472:31:51

It comes after a relaxation

of the government-imposed cap

2:31:512:31:54

to address shortfalls in funding

for social care.

2:31:542:31:56

The Local Government Association

says councils will still be

2:31:562:31:58

at financial breaking point.

2:31:582:32:02

The European Court of Justice is due

to decide this morning

2:32:022:32:05

whether the taxi hailing app, Uber,

should legally be considered

2:32:052:32:07

a transport company,

or a digital services provider.

2:32:072:32:11

The ruling will determine

whether the firm should be subject

2:32:112:32:13

to local licensing laws

in the countries in

2:32:132:32:15

which it operates.

2:32:152:32:22

The post office network is to

receive £370 million of new funding.

2:32:222:32:29

Almost half of the money will be

used to protect village community

2:32:292:32:31

branches, according to the Business

Secretary Greg Clark. The three-year

2:32:312:32:33

funding deal, which will run from

next April, comes as the Post Office

2:32:332:32:36

announced it had moved into profit

for the first time in 16 years.

2:32:362:32:44

And coming up here

on Breakfast this morning...

2:32:442:32:46

Getting older is no hurdle

to the growing number

2:32:462:32:48

of "super-agers" in their 80s

and 90s who are still

2:32:482:32:50

active, happy and fit.

2:32:502:32:52

We'll be talking to 82-year-old

athlete Tony in just

2:32:522:32:54

a few minutes' time.

2:32:542:32:58

That's him in action! We will be

speaking to him soon...

2:32:582:33:01

Bruce Dickinson will be

2:33:012:33:02

here to talk about his battle

2:33:022:33:03

with cancer and three decades

as lead singer of Iron Maiden.

2:33:032:33:08

It's Christmas in the nation's

favourite corner shop -

2:33:082:33:11

yes, "Still Open All Hours" is back

for a festive special.

2:33:112:33:14

We'll be joined by two

of the cast just after nine.

2:33:142:33:23

How old is Tony, 88? 82 years old...

Imagine! I'm not saying that you are

2:33:232:33:31

82 years old, Kat... Being sporty at

82 is what you want to do.

There was

2:33:312:33:36

an interesting piece on the ten

o'clock news about super agers,

2:33:362:33:40

still sprinting. I think the

reporter, who I have forgotten...

2:33:402:33:44

Whose name I have forgotten, he was

beaten in a 100 metres sprint by an

2:33:442:33:50

80 odd-year-old woman. Fergus Walsh.

He's going to be delighted that you

2:33:502:33:58

remembered his name!

I also

highlighted the fact that he was

2:33:582:34:02

beaten by an octogenarian!

Tony is

coming in in a few minutes time. He

2:34:022:34:07

has some extraordinary times for his

100 metres sprints as well. He is

2:34:072:34:11

incredible.

This lady who Fergus

Walsh was beaten by is only seven

2:34:112:34:17

seconds slower than a Usain Bolt

over 100 metres, and

2:34:172:34:20

she is in her 80s. Let's talk about

Manchester City now...

Good morning

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everybody.

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Manchester City's magnificent season

continued, as they reached

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the League Cup semi-finals.

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Jamie Vardy scoring a controversial

equaliser from the spot

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for Leicester, seven minutes

into injury time, to make it 1-1.

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But it went to penalties,

Vardy missed, and Claudio Bravo

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was the hero, saving

Riyadh Mahrez's attempt.

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Arsenal will also be

in tonight's semifinal draw,

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after beating West Ham -

Danny Wellbeck with

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the only goal of the game.

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But Olivier Giroud was injured

towards the end of the match

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and he'll miss Friday's

game against Liverpool.

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The draw will be made

after tonight's matches -

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Chelsea take on Bournemouth,

while holders Manchester United face

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Championship side Bristol City

and City manager Lee Johnson

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is really hoping Jose Mourinho

pops by after the game.

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I've ordered in a very expensive

bottle of wine, I must add.

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I've had to raid my little girl's

piggy bank and everything,

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so I'd be really disappointed

if he doesn't come in and at least

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taste it because it has to be poured

specially, it's that good.

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Not

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bad, apparently it's a £450 bottle

of wine that he has, seems

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frightfully unfair that he's got

that after reading his daughter's

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piggybank! But what of Jose says

that he does not fancy it and he's

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just going to go home but then you

enjoy it all to yourself! Best of

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luck with that!

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England's Ashes tour has been fairly

disasterous so far -

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they've lost the series,

and there's been lots of talk

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about ill-discipline

within the squad.

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Batsman Ben Duckett was one

of those in trouble -

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he poured a drink over

James Anderson's head

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in a bar in Australia

and was given a suspension.

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Now he's been told he won't take

part in the England Lions tour

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to the West Indies next year,

because of that incident.

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Former Wimbledon champion

Marion Bartoli has come out

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of retirement and says she'll return

to the WTA Tour next year.

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Bartoli is 33 now, she quit

tennis in August 2013 less

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than six weeks after winning

Wimbledon - her only

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grand slam title -

citing ongoing injury problems.

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She inends to make her comeback

at the Miami Open in March.

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-- she intends to make a comeback.

She's only 33. Compared to the super

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agers, she is a spring chicken!

Loads of time!

No excuse not to be

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winning multiple grand slams after

her return to tennis.

We look

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forward to seeing how she gets on.

I

look forward to seeing you speak to

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Tony.

You liked embarrassing Fergus

Walsh being beaten! We will hear

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from him now!

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What will you be doing in your 80s?

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If you find yourself

living independently,

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robust in body and mind,

and with a wide social

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circle, congratulations -

you have become a "super-ager".

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With an aging population,

one in ten of us in the UK is now

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expected to live to 100.

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Our Medical Correspondent Fergus

Walsh has been to the US,

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where they're undertaking

lots of research into ageing.

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Here are some of the incredible

"super-agers" he met there.

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To me, I do not think of age being a

handicap. It's just a process.

You

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live, you die. So, why not live?

Live the life you love and love the

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life you lead. A quitter never wins,

and a winner never quits. I want to

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be a winner.

Thank your parents. It

has got to be genetic. Both of my

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parents lived long. I don't

exercise, I walk. I walk a lot. If

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I'm to give anyone advice, I say

just keep moving.

It makes me feel

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so young. I have so much fun. I feel

like I'm in the kindergarten of the

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universe.

My mother lives to 103. I

don't desire to live that long but I

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want to be as healthy as I can for

as long as I can.

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Let's speak now to octogenarian

Tony Bowman, who holds the world

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record for indoor hurdles

for over 80s.

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Among many other records, I

understand?

Yes, well, since I

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turned 80 and very fortunate to have

broken British records in 13 events

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for over 80s! Mainly in the sprint

area, and decathlon and pentathlon.

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We're also joined by

Professor Hans Degens

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who's from the Aging

Research Group at

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Manchester Metropolitan University.

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Can I ask, we are all open about our

ages. Tony is 82.

I am 53.

Can you

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run faster than the professor, have

you had a race?

We don't race

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against each other...

But you have

met before?

We have.

Yes. He is a

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fine example of an 82-year-old man.

What is so special that Tony is

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doing.

It's interesting, these

people can perform exceptionally

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well. Ten years ago I did a 400

metre runner and looked at who I

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would compete against and win a gold

medal, it would be the 85-year-old

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people. These people have

exceptional performance and are

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fairly special.

To put all of this

into context, in asking who is

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faster, 100 metres, you have run 100

metres in 15.16 seconds?

In actual

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fact, last year in Perth, in the

World Championships in Australia, I

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ran 14.85 seconds. It was a little

wind assisted, I must say! But I ran

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14.85 seconds which was to tents

outside the world record for an

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80-year-old.

And it's only five

seconds slower than Usain Bolt,

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which puts it into context.

Yes,

I've got to pick you up on that a

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little... Please do! Five seconds is

a long way in the 100 metres.

But

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not between an 80-year-old and a 28,

29-year-old. One of the greatest

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athletes we've seen on the track.

So, at 82 years old, you are a fine

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specimen, a very strong handshake!

Were you always superfit? Have you

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continued that through your life?

Did you come into it later?

I am

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very fortunate in having two

wonderful parents who supported me.

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I went to a grammar school in

Twickenham which was very strong in

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running and sport. I have always

been sport minded. I've got to say,

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I've almost put sport in front of

almost everything. Earning

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exceptional money for a living, for

instance, I've always wanted to keep

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fit. That's really what has kept me

going. My love of sport. I've got to

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say although I'm 82 years old, I

feel as though I'm in my early 50s.

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I want to run the 100 metres when I

am a hundred and live to 120. That's

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my aim.

So, not everybody is going

to have the same start, Hans, in

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their early years, as Tony has had.

I'm an exceptionally lucky guy.

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Hans, in order for super agers to

exist, they don't necessarily need

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to have had that start in life?

If

you start earlier it does help, it's

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a great stimulus, I would say, for

present-day society to get children

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active because you will carry that

over in later life. But having said

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that, even if you have never been

active, there's always the

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opportunity to build up the quality

that this man here has. In my idea

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at any age, you can still get to

that stage.

Do we need to put out a

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warning, in terms of those who have

not done much sport or exercise, of

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how they launch themselves into that

world?

For anybody who has not done

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any training with no background of

exercise, to do what I do, that

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would be killing themselves. So if

people haven't done anything, go out

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walking. Not just strolling around

like you do as you play golf, but

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swinging your arms and getting your

heart beating. Possibly working up a

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sweat. That's how to get started.

Then go for a little jog. Not on the

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roads but maybe around the cricket

pitch, on some grass.

People will be

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watching and be thinking, he is

Superman. But you have had two heart

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attacks?

I had two stents fitted,

some bowel taken out, atrial

2:43:152:43:22

fibrillation and flutter twice. I

had the shock treatment for my

2:43:222:43:27

heart, to put it back into rhythm.

But I am still going. Because I've

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got determination. I absolutely love

life, really. I am a great lover of

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life.

Were all of your family

active?

My dad was a good sportsman,

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a hurdler at school. My mother

always gave a lot of support.

Is

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their great polarisation going on

between people doing a lot better

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health-wise in old age, and we do a

lot of stories about areas of

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deprivation, and you see the life

expectancy varies so much across the

2:44:012:44:05

UK. There are pockets where life

expectancy is so low. There is big

2:44:052:44:13

disparities, isn't there?

Yes, I

think it has a lot to do with

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lifestyle. The kind of food you

take, smoking is a big thing that

2:44:172:44:21

will have a detrimental affect on

your health. Also, the way that you

2:44:212:44:26

approach life. I guess people in

deprived areas, they have to worry

2:44:262:44:31

too much about their quality-of-life

and that occupies them so much that

2:44:312:44:36

any joy they get comes from

cigarettes, I've heard them say, so

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they go for it. It appears that we

have to improve the quality-of-life

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of those people as well. Then they

can have a more positive mindset,

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you can imagine, which would help.

How are we relative to other

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nations?

2:44:552:45:00

How are we doing in relative to

other nations, excellence in sport?

2:45:002:45:07

We are about second in the world.

Who is at the top?

The Germans and

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the Australians. The Germans are

pretty good, I don't know. But we

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are second. If we go to a

Championships and we are second,

2:45:212:45:30

male and female, we compete all over

the world. The only thing is, we

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have to pay for our own expenses.

That is a whole other argument.

It

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is crazy, they want people to live

longer, keep fit and stay out of

2:45:482:45:51

hospitals, but they don't give any

money to encourage that thought.

2:45:512:45:56

That is a good thought. Thank you

for coming in.

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Fergus Walsh's series on super-agers

continues on the ten

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tonight, when he will be

looking at how long

2:46:112:46:13

people might live in future.

2:46:132:46:16

Here's Carol with a look

at this morning's weather.

2:46:162:46:21

Carol is superfit. Bless you, I

don't know about that. And very,

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very young. This is called

backpedalling furiously, I think.

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It is good to be on the roof of

Broadcasting House, the drizzle has

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stopped but there is a lot of fog

around me. For most of the UK it

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will be cloudy but it will be mild.

Milder than it was this time

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yesterday. For a couple of us, one

or two exceptions. The rain will

2:46:542:47:02

eventually get into Wales and the

West Midlands as it continues to

2:47:022:47:06

sink southwards. Ahead of it is a

lot of cloud, thick enough for

2:47:062:47:10

drizzle here and there but over the

hills, we will see some bright

2:47:102:47:16

spells. In Northern Ireland and

Scotland, it will brighten up so

2:47:162:47:20

this afternoon there will be sunny

spells in Scotland. For north-west

2:47:202:47:25

England, this is where we have the

weather front producing murky

2:47:252:47:30

conditions, cloudy, damp, patchy

rain were as north-east England,

2:47:302:47:34

drier and brighter. South through

the Midlands into East Anglia and

2:47:342:47:38

all southern counties of England, a

fair bit of cloud around. In the

2:47:382:47:43

shelter of the hills, brighter

breaks, but the cloud will be the

2:47:432:47:47

keynote for drizzle. In Wales, the

weather front is careering

2:47:472:47:52

southwards across you, bringing

patchy rain as it does so. In

2:47:522:47:57

Northern Ireland, the weather front

is out and they will have some

2:47:572:48:00

sunshine. Temperatures will be lower

in Wales and Northern Ireland but

2:48:002:48:05

the sunshine will compensate for

that. Overnight, the rain will

2:48:052:48:10

continue to track southwards. But

then it will turn around and head

2:48:102:48:16

north eastwards. The north-east

England it will be wet and for the

2:48:162:48:19

rest of England and Wales it will be

cloudy with fog patches forming. On

2:48:192:48:24

the other side of the weather front

it will be cooler and cold enough in

2:48:242:48:29

the Glens for a touch of frost.

Tomorrow morning, the rain clears

2:48:292:48:33

eastern England quite quickly and

moves through Northern Ireland to

2:48:332:48:39

travel north eastwards. On the other

side, drier and brighter with some

2:48:392:48:43

sunny spells developing here and

there. Still relatively mild. By the

2:48:432:48:47

time we get a Friday, ridge of high

pressure across us. For most of us

2:48:472:48:52

it will be dry, bright but there

will be some silly spells around. In

2:48:522:48:57

the west we are prone to showers, as

we are across the Channel Islands.

2:48:572:49:02

The temperature is still not bad. As

we head towards Christmas Day, the

2:49:022:49:08

weather turns more unsettled. On

Christmas Day itself, there is the

2:49:082:49:12

potential that somewhere in the UK

will see a white Christmas and it

2:49:122:49:16

will probably be somewhere in

Scotland.

2:49:162:49:19

Lovely Carol, thank you very much.

Pleasure.

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Even the most reluctant singer

probably knows some nursery

2:49:292:49:31

rhymes and lullabies -

and it's long been thought music has

2:49:312:49:34

a calming effect on babies.

2:49:342:49:35

Now research suggests it's not only

children who benefit -

2:49:352:49:38

their parents do too -

and it could even be

2:49:382:49:40

an effective way of treating

postnatal depression.

2:49:402:49:42

Breakfast's Jayne McCubbin has

been finding out more.

2:49:422:49:44

This kind of moment is being shared

by more and more mums and babies,

2:49:442:49:47

but today we can reveal research

which shows this isn't just fun,

2:49:472:49:50

it could provide fundamental help

for the problem that affects one

2:49:502:49:52

in eight mothers.

2:49:522:49:57

Like Mauve and baby Isla.

2:49:572:50:00

Like Claire and Elsie.

2:50:002:50:02

Like Cecilia and Boadicea.

2:50:022:50:05

I never blamed him.

2:50:052:50:10

He's amazing.

2:50:102:50:12

He's always wonderful.

2:50:122:50:13

But motherhood.

2:50:132:50:14

You feel shocking.

2:50:142:50:15

Literally like the world has ended.

2:50:152:50:19

You feel guilty, and it's

meant to be a happy time.

2:50:192:50:29

So you feel guilty

just for feeling sad.

2:50:302:50:33

Sitting on the sofa in the evening

and you are still, like,

2:50:332:50:36

what am I going to do?

2:50:362:50:37

High alert.

2:50:372:50:38

Everyone's like, relax,

do something you enjoy,

2:50:382:50:40

and I can't do that.

2:50:402:50:41

That doesn't help me relax,

because I have severe anxiety.

2:50:412:50:43

These women are part

of a singing group in London,

2:50:432:50:46

which was studied by academics.

2:50:462:50:47

Mums who'd all experienced

post-natal depression

2:50:472:50:48

or baby blues.

2:50:482:50:49

They discovered

singing really helps.

2:50:492:50:51

We've taken 150 mothers

with symptoms of post-natal

2:50:512:50:53

depression and randomised them

into ten weeks of social groups,

2:50:532:50:55

usual care or social singing groups,

and we found those in the social

2:50:552:50:58

singing groups had

significantly faster

2:50:582:51:00

improvements in post-natal

depression across the ten weeks.

2:51:002:51:10

And, in fact, about three quarters

of them had recovered

2:51:152:51:17

from their symptoms by the end

of the 10-week project,

2:51:172:51:20

and this was about a month earlier

than either of the other two groups.

2:51:202:51:23

The more intense the symptoms,

the more significant the impact.

2:51:232:51:25

Singing made recovery faster.

2:51:252:51:26

You don't have to think

about anything but singing

2:51:262:51:29

and cuddling your

baby and having fun.

2:51:292:51:30

You know you're in a

bad moment together.

2:51:302:51:32

You don't have to be, like,

how bad is your moment,

2:51:322:51:35

you're just all there singing

2:51:352:51:37

something communal together,

so it's really nice.

2:51:372:51:39

Would you recommend it?

2:51:392:51:41

Oh, yeah, 100%.

2:51:412:51:42

I got a little kick there.

2:51:422:51:45

I hope you enjoy our singing today.

2:51:452:51:46

An endorsement they are happy

to share in Bristol

2:51:462:51:49

at the Womb Sisters Singing Group.

2:51:492:51:51

SINGING.

2:51:512:51:54

They're singing in the knowledge

2:51:542:51:55

that babies can hear

in the womb from 15 weeks.

2:51:552:52:02

When the baby's born,

they recognise that song

2:52:022:52:04

and they respond to it.

2:52:042:52:05

There is a comfort there.

2:52:052:52:06

Yeah.

2:52:062:52:08

It is a really nice way to connect.

2:52:082:52:10

These are the songs you will

sing when she is born.

2:52:102:52:12

If I can remember.

2:52:122:52:13

Of course you will.

2:52:132:52:14

For mums struggling after birth,

medication isn't always welcome.

2:52:142:52:17

Take-up rate of talking

therapies is very low,

2:52:172:52:18

so the findings that this could take

make a difference in the most

2:52:182:52:21

serious cases is all

the more important.

2:52:212:52:23

Real help that couldn't be simpler.

2:52:232:52:27

It doesn't matter if you're a good

or a bad singer at all,

2:52:272:52:30

it's just literally about finding

a way to communicate.

2:52:302:52:40

I've made up loads and loads

of songs, just of everyday stuff.

2:52:432:52:46

I have a song about changing his

nappy that my mum thinks

2:52:462:52:48

is a little bit rude.

2:52:482:52:50

But, you know.

2:52:502:52:51

Can you share?

2:52:512:52:52

Come on.

2:52:522:52:53

# Mr Poo Pants.

2:52:532:52:57

# Mr Poo Pants.

2:52:572:52:59

# He did a poo

2:52:592:53:04

# And he wears pants #.

2:53:042:53:05

It doesn't matter what you sing

2:53:052:53:07

or where you sing it,

singing helps you to bond

2:53:072:53:09

and helps mums feel.

2:53:092:53:10

Everyone should do it.

2:53:102:53:11

Yep.

2:53:112:53:12

Thank you for sharing!

2:53:122:53:18

I like that song. Bruce is watching

that with us. I thought it was brave

2:53:182:53:25

of her to share that.

Very brave.

We

have been talking about the benefits

2:53:252:53:34

of singing. You are an advocate?

Funny you should talk about babies,

2:53:342:53:40

there is a line in my book, a

chapter about vocal technique and

2:53:402:53:46

about how it all works, the voice

works. On a mechanical basis. You

2:53:462:53:53

can learn a lot from babies. The

racket that comes out of that tiny

2:53:532:53:58

little thing and it goes on for

ever, they don't lose their voice.

2:53:582:54:03

Breathing techniques, almost?

Babies

have no fear of letting rip with

2:54:032:54:10

their diaphragm and those tiny

little lungs, they make an amazing

2:54:102:54:13

noise. You think about that and

people say, I cannot sing. Yes you

2:54:132:54:19

can, you have just forgotten how to

do it.

It is being brave enough.

2:54:192:54:25

Thinking about letting it go,

looking at that picture behind.

2:54:252:54:38

Shall we treat our viewers to what

you have been up to musically.

2:54:422:54:45

# I'm going to organise

some changes in my life.

2:54:452:54:48

# I can't wait to exorcise

the Demons of my past.

2:54:482:54:50

# I'm going to take my car,

hit the open road.

2:54:502:54:55

# I'm feeling ready

to just open up the door.

2:54:552:55:02

# I just feel like

I can be anything.

2:55:022:55:06

# Run to the hills.

2:55:062:55:07

# Run for your lives.

2:55:072:55:09

# Run to the hills.

2:55:092:55:10

# Run for your lives #.

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Bruce Dickinson joins us now.

2:55:332:55:37

You are still in fine Vettel?

We

have just sold out a UK tour for

2:55:372:55:44

next year. Sold out a UK tour for

this last year. We are still

2:55:442:55:52

extremely busy, 30,000 people in

London.

You are still rocking and

2:55:522:56:00

rolling?

Very much so, yes.

Why

bring the book out now about the

2:56:002:56:06

experiences in your life?

People

have been on at me for about ten, 15

2:56:062:56:12

years to do a book. I did a couple

of fictional books a few years back,

2:56:122:56:18

so I know what is involved, it is an

awful lot of writing and it takes a

2:56:182:56:22

lot of time. I just didn't want to

use a ghost writer. But I am a

2:56:222:56:30

terrible typist, so I write the

thing longhand. The thing that

2:56:302:56:37

focused my mind sharply was being

diagnosed with throat cancer, which

2:56:372:56:41

was a bit of a blow, being a singer,

obviously. That was nearly three

2:56:412:56:48

years ago now. Obviously, I got

better. Thanks to my doctor, if he

2:56:482:56:54

is watching, did an amazing job

getting rid of it. I thought, that

2:56:542:56:59

is a pretty good reset button for

the rest of your life, getting

2:56:592:57:04

clear, ten months in hiatus

thinking, I don't know if it is all

2:57:042:57:10

going to work, singing. Then

simultaneously, starting to learn to

2:57:102:57:15

fly a 747 to fly the band around on

a 70 today tour, that is not about

2:57:152:57:21

comeback.

You are a trained pilot

and you have worked as a commercial

2:57:212:57:29

pilot. People have got on board your

flights when you have been flying

2:57:292:57:32

with an airline in the past. You are

the lead singer of Iron Maiden, but

2:57:322:57:38

you are a commercial pilot, it is a

juxtaposition.

I still am. And it

2:57:382:57:46

makes me laugh when people say he is

a licensed commercial pilot, like

2:57:462:57:50

there is an unlicensed commercial

pilot. Not being John Travolta, I

2:57:502:57:56

couldn't afford to buy my own

airline, so I got deeply into flying

2:57:562:58:02

and loving aeroplanes. So I thought,

how do I get to fly a big jet so I

2:58:022:58:08

thought, I will have to get a job. I

put down my CV to people, didn't put

2:58:082:58:14

Iron Maiden on it. Left that until

the end. Anyway, I got offered a job

2:58:142:58:20

with an airline, which only lasted a

few months, but I did my training

2:58:202:58:25

with British Airways. I was flying

passengers on British airway is in

2:58:252:58:30

the year 2000.

Just to be clear, you

are saying, this is Captain

2:58:302:58:38

Dickenson?

I wasn't a captain,

but...

You are doing all the

2:58:382:58:43

announcements?

The thing is, you are

doing the announcements and people

2:58:432:58:49

are looking around and, there is a

cross when... People are looking

2:58:492:58:58

round and they don't pay attention.

So that is why they go unconscious

2:58:582:59:05

when the oxygen masks dropped

because they didn't pay attention.

2:59:052:59:09

Did you try and enliven the and's...

Did you ever saying on the plane?

2:59:092:59:17

No, but I was doing a Lourdes flight

and I was in the toilet and somebody

2:59:172:59:26

started singing on the PA.

2:59:262:59:33

I was like, who is singing on the

aeroplane? We have just come back

2:59:332:59:36

into Dublin, I looked out the toilet

door and the vicar was doing Hail

2:59:362:59:45

Marys and leading him singing on the

PA!

That is quite nice, isn't it?

2:59:452:59:52

Not what you are expecting...

It is

part of the deal. I went, hello. At

2:59:522:59:59

least we are protected!

You've had

some amazing stories. The title of

2:59:593:00:02

the book is What Does This But Do?

There are all of these buttons, a

3:00:023:00:13

lot of them are fuses, circuit

breakers, but they look impressive.

3:00:133:00:18

-- what does this button do. People

look round and hopefully you know!

3:00:183:00:30

It's a great metaphor for my life.

It is endless and childlike

3:00:303:00:34

curiosity.

You start with a

remarkable story of being on a plane

3:00:343:00:44

asking for Russian airspace...

With

Michael Heseltine on board? They

3:00:443:00:48

wanted to shoot us down. We were a

charter airline, we had 11

3:00:483:00:52

aeroplanes and one day I turned up

to work I'm the first officer, not

3:00:523:00:56

the skipper. I'm the first officer

and I turn up and there is a 200

3:00:563:01:03

seat 757 going to Russia. At The

time it was the headquarter of a

3:01:033:01:11

Soviet fleet, as any schoolboy would

know. There are 20 people on it.

3:01:113:01:17

Michael Heseltine, Max Hastings,

various other worthies and a lot of

3:01:173:01:21

other people called John Smith with

big bulges here... Close personal

3:01:213:01:27

security. We go there and I said,

why are we going to Murmansk with no

3:01:273:01:32

people? And the guy goes... A

fishing expedition. I went, fishing

3:01:323:01:39

expedition? Special fish in

Murmansk? Very big fish? He went,

3:01:393:01:44

very big fish! I went,'s...

Asking

too many questions!

Yeah, have to

3:01:443:01:52

kill me... So anyway, we circle over

the top, they won't let us land.

3:01:523:01:56

They don't tell us why and after two

hours of circling, and is getting

3:01:563:02:01

back to our operations asking why

they aren't letting us land, they

3:02:013:02:04

said we are speaking to the embassy

by the British Embassy in Moscow, it

3:02:043:02:10

should go OK. They said, if you

don't go away we will shoot you

3:02:103:02:13

down. We dropped them back in

Finland! I emptied the bars into two

3:02:133:02:18

bin liners and they went on a smoky

and dodgy looking coach and headed

3:02:183:02:22

towards the Russian border. I just

said, here is the contents of the

3:02:223:02:26

aeroplane bar, you might need this!

And off they went!

You have had a

3:02:263:02:33

fascinating life. As you are telling

that story, I'm looking at that man

3:02:333:02:37

and thinking, what an interesting

life you have led!

This button does

3:02:373:02:41

do wonderful things!

It is a tale

worth telling...

Somebody said, what

3:02:413:02:45

is the book about? I said it's a

celebration of life. It isn't score

3:02:453:02:52

settling, it isn't trying to be

nasty or petty, that kind of reality

3:02:523:02:55

nonsense. It is uplifting, life is

brilliant.

The thing that you do,

3:02:553:03:09

please do not touch that... That's

the thing that touches the thing...

3:03:093:03:16

That is mine! It is lovely to see

this morning.

It is great to your

3:03:163:03:20

health is back on track. And joyful.

I'm looking forward to living

3:03:203:03:28

forever, according to your...

Yes,

the super agers. Speak to Tony, he's

3:03:283:03:34

82.

82?

He runs 100 metres in less

than 15 seconds.

I couldn't do that

3:03:343:03:40

when I was 15!

3:03:403:03:42

Bruce Dickinson's book is called

'What Does This Button Do?'

3:03:423:03:44

Thank you.

3:03:443:03:49

In a

3:03:493:05:23

I'll be back with the lunchtime

news at 1.30 on BBC One.

3:05:233:05:26

Until then, have

a very good morning.

3:05:263:05:27

There's nothing like putting your

feet up at Christmas

3:05:343:05:37

to a bit of comedy gold,

and one of this year's best

3:05:373:05:40

offerings is a seasonal spin off

to Ronnie Barker's classic

3:05:403:05:43

cornershop sitcom 'Open All Hours'.

3:05:433:05:49

Keeping David Jason's Granville busy

this Christmas are his love interest

3:05:493:05:52

Mavis, and his son Leroy.

3:05:523:05:59

We'll speak to Maggie Ollerenshaw

and James Baxter who play

3:05:593:06:01

the characters in a moment but first

let's see what's in store for them

3:06:013:06:05

in the seasonal special

of 'Still Open All Hours'.

3:06:053:06:07

You will be away?

We are going to a

hotel.

But... They are full of

3:06:073:06:14

You will be away?

We are going to a

hotel.

But... They are full of

3:06:143:06:14

germs, and naughty old men.

I didn't

say anything in the brochure... --

3:06:143:06:18

it didn't say anything in the

brochure. It isn't my idea. I was

3:06:183:06:22

hoping that we could...

Hmm... Me,

too. Look, can you lock Madge in the

3:06:223:06:37

attic or somewhere? Not at

Christmas... I will send someone in

3:06:373:06:40

to feed her.

She will only bite

them!

I hope you aren't lying about

3:06:403:06:46

this poor animal that we need to

rescue.

We are going in now. I can

3:06:463:06:52

just see it, gratefully licking your

hand. If it were me, I would start

3:06:523:06:56

on your ear.

Ooh help me out of this

thing...

What are you doing for

3:06:563:07:06

Christmas?

Nothing that involves

you.

Help me out.

I can take you

3:07:063:07:11

home. In this?

I will drop you

somewhere near.

What do you want

3:07:113:07:16

from me? Do you really think we will

have a romance when you have flesh

3:07:163:07:19

stuck in your teeth?

I floss!

3:07:193:07:25

Maggie and James, good morning.

3:07:253:07:30

Unlucky in love, unlucky in love?

In

this one, Leroy has somebody to

3:07:303:07:38

chase, which is nice.

That makes a

change! It's good. We were talking

3:07:383:07:43

earlier on today about super agers,

and David Jason looks great!

He

3:07:433:07:50

doesn't look old at all. He is not

that old...

Not as old as Tony but

3:07:503:07:55

the original Open All Hours, he was

the young and bumbling Granville but

3:07:553:07:58

now he is in charge and manipulating

his customers. He has learned all of

3:07:583:08:03

his lessons. It still looks like so

much fun.

It is.

We have a laugh, it

3:08:033:08:09

doesn't feel like going to work. You

can't call it work.

What is it about

3:08:093:08:15

the series that means it is

sustainable? Some things are best

3:08:153:08:20

left... On this occasion, they tried

to give the series new life and give

3:08:203:08:24

it back to a new audience. Is it

continuity because of David Jason?

I

3:08:243:08:30

think so, it is the same surreal

world. A lot of the same characters

3:08:303:08:35

are still there. The thing is, it is

a show that the family can watch.

3:08:353:08:41

You know? There's a little fan of

mine who is ten years old and he

3:08:413:08:47

enjoys it. People feel they can sit

with their family, young people

3:08:473:08:51

enjoy it.

It does not matter how old

you are. Whatever your age you get

3:08:513:08:56

something from it.

We had this

discussion about pantomime earlier

3:08:563:09:00

in the week, about the controversy

surrounding pantomime and innuendo.

3:09:003:09:04

You've got to be clever. With

writing and with programmes like

3:09:043:09:10

Open All Hours, being shown over

Christmas. They do appeal to people

3:09:103:09:14

with the odd cheeky reference. They

will see the magic.

That's right.

3:09:143:09:19

White writing is so important in

terms of continuity. -- the writing

3:09:193:09:25

is so important.

There is a lot more

comedy now which has the edge. The

3:09:253:09:33

ones that are slightly agonising...

Like the office. This is a very

3:09:333:09:38

different mould, more like Mrs Brown

's boys, which has been hugely

3:09:383:09:42

successful. And it sits more in that

territory?

It isn't as

3:09:423:09:48

controversial... Again, you can be

aged eight or 88 and get something

3:09:483:09:52

from it. I think Mrs Brown's Boys, I

don't know if you can be aged eight

3:09:523:09:57

and watch it... I don't know.

There's a lot of physical comedy in

3:09:573:10:01

this.

Yes, a lot of slapstick, kids

love that.

The Christmas crackers

3:10:013:10:07

are a great thing. In the first

episode, I will not give anything

3:10:073:10:11

more way...

You sound as though you

have seen more than us.

Lebed said

3:10:113:10:19

you had not seen that bit that we

just showed...

I've only seen bits

3:10:193:10:23

of film.

I've seen the last three...

Not to break!

And to what extent

3:10:233:10:29

does Ronnie Barker's character

still... Not hang over the show, it

3:10:293:10:33

sounds like it is bad, but that

character, what he created and what

3:10:333:10:38

he has done?

He is still there, in

the kitchen, there is the big

3:10:383:10:43

photograph and also the idea that

Arkwright is embodied in the till,

3:10:433:10:49

how the

3:10:493:10:50

till behaves.

The character, he's

one of the great injuring television

3:10:533:11:02

comedy characters?

And yet it is

still fresh.

It still has to be

3:11:023:11:08

fresh, because there's always the

danger that you bring back something

3:11:083:11:12

like Open All Hours, most people in

the UK will have heard of it and

3:11:123:11:15

thought it was an old-fashioned

comedy. To bring it back and for it

3:11:153:11:18

to be so successful...

It's keeping

the fundamentals of the show but the

3:11:183:11:26

world has changed. These characters

have had to develop and, you know,

3:11:263:11:33

but the fundamentals are still

there.

But the new characters fit

3:11:333:11:36

right in.

Tim, joy, Nina... I am

mindful of watching the old clips,

3:11:363:11:47

all shopkeepers used to wear those

brown overcoats.

I still find it

3:11:473:11:56

very sexy!

They all used to wear

those coats. You go into a grocery

3:11:563:12:02

shop and the wearing the brown

overcoats. You don't see it any

3:12:023:12:06

more. The kinds of shops that those

grocers, you see fewer and fewer of

3:12:063:12:14

them.

They do not have the brown

coats...

A lot of the shops when I

3:12:143:12:20

was at school, there was no

formality, they couldn't wait to get

3:12:203:12:24

you out of the shop! By your gun and

get out!

This is festive -- by your

3:12:243:12:33

gum.

It's odd, you are not filming

at Christmas...

We introduced you by

3:12:333:12:45

saying there is a Christmas routine,

sitting down, vegging out on the

3:12:453:12:52

sofa, you are all full, a bit stuff.

Your routine is pretty similar?

I

3:12:523:12:58

guess so, most people's is.

There's

always a lot of blues on my

3:12:583:13:06

Christmas... Last year I turned

into... Everybody just descended on

3:13:063:13:10

the family home -- a lot of booze.

It was good!

It has been lovely to

3:13:103:13:17

see you both this morning. Thank you

for coming in.

Watch it, because it

3:13:173:13:21

is funny!

3:13:213:13:22

'Still Open All Hours' is on BBC One

at 7.30pm on the 28th December.

3:13:223:13:27

That's it from us on

Breakfast this morning.

3:13:273:13:29

We'll be back tomorrow from six.

3:13:293:13:32

Now on BBC One, it's time

for "Let's Get a Good Thing Going".

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