09/02/2018 Breakfast

Hello - this is Breakfast,

with Charlie Stayt

and Naga Munchetty.

Just hours to the start of the 23rd

Winter Olympic Games

in South Korea.

Diplomacy is high on the agenda

as senior figures from North Korea

and the US arrive in PyeongChang

for the Opening Ceremony.

And bad news overnight for British

medal hopeful Katie Ormerod -

she's broken her heel

in snowboard training,

and is out of the Games -

she'd already fractured her wrist.

This is the scene in PyeongChang

this morning where plummeting

temperatures have left some

concerned these could be the coldest

winter games on record.

Good morning - it's

Friday 9 February.

Also this morning:

Two British men - believed to be

Islamic State militants known

for killing Western hostages -

are captured by Syrian Kurdish

fighters.

Good morning.

Stock markets around the world have

taken a tumble for the second time

this week - and a lot of it's

because of the prospect

of higher interest rates.

I'll have more in a moment.

Human eggs have been grown

in a laboratory for the first time.

And Carol has the weather.

Good morning from the roof of

Broadcasting House in London. Rain

will cross the rest of the

south-east. Some wintry showers,

most prolific in the north and west.

Some of them will be over lower

levels and heavy. We will see when

15 minutes.

Good morning.

First, our main story.

There are just hours to go

until the Opening Ceremony

of the Winter Olympics

in South Korea.

The US Vice-President Mike Pence

and sister of the North Korean

leader, Kim Jong-un,

are expected to arrive

in Pyeongchang shortly

to watch the event.

47 Russian athletes and coaches

implicated in doping

allegations have lost a last-minute

appeal to take part in the Games.

Our correspondent,

Stephen McDonell reports.

After years of preparation, the

PyeongChang Winter Olympics is here.

The venues are ready and the

spectators are pouring in. The cold

and windy conditions don't seem to

be dampening people's enthusiasm but

even the most diehard sports fans

are finding it difficult to dodge

the political manoeuvres being

played out of these games. The North

Korean leader's sister will be at

the Opening Ceremony and she will

also meet South Korea's president.

The United States government has

dispatched Vice President Mike Pence

who says he is here to challenge the

North Koreans, reminding people of

the country's human rights abuses

and nuclear weapons programme. Many

South Koreans say they find it a bit

odd that the Trump Administration

has decided to counter the north of

its own propaganda offensive at the

Olympics. But there are divided

opinions amongst locals at these

games over how they will feel when

North and South Korean athletes

march into the stadium together.

TRANSLATION: many in the older

generation but is negatively. They

say, why this unification flag and

not the South Korean flag?

TRANSLATION: I hope this Olympics

belts the snow, but it is a gradual

melt, not too fast.

Naturally, once

elite athletes start hitting the

slopes here, then they will take

centre stage in the many spectators,

this can't come soon enough but even

in the sporting arena, there are

political dimensions here following

the recent doping scandal. Just

hours before the Opening Ceremony

was due to start, 45 Russian

athletes and two coaches lost their

appeal to participate. Those Russian

athletes who are allowed to compete

here will do so under the Olympic

flag and following any medals, the

Olympic theme will be played.

Our Correspondent, Stephen McDonell,

is in Pyeongchang for us.

Stephen, what is the atmospere

like ahead of the Opening Ceremony?

How certain faces are going to be

seen today.

Absolutely. We are all

read up on the Opening Ceremony to

see what is on offer that even

before that starts in a few hours,

we have heard that President Moon

Jae-in is hosting a VIP cocktail

party. You can imagine who would be

there. Vice President Mike Pence,

meet Kim Jong-un's sister. How are

you going? Nice weather we're

having. Do you like skiing? Even

though there will not officially be

a meeting between the North Koreans

and the American delegation, they

were all these types of

possibilities, very intriguing.

Stephen, thank you very much. We'll

be talking to Stephen throughout the

morning. The Winter Olympics will

begin shortly and the Opening

Ceremony can be seen from 10:30am on

BBC One, the red button and on line.

For a round-up if you are in

BBC One, the red button and on line.

For a round-up if you are in England

and Scotland, 7pm from --7 p.m. On

BBC Two.

Two British extremists,

believed to be members of one

of the so-called Islamic State

group's most notorious cells,

have been captured by Syrian Kurdish

fighters in Syria -

according to US officials.

They are accused of

being part of a unit

which executed 27 Western hostages

and tortured many more.

Andy Moore reports.

Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee

Elsheikh, the two Britons captured

by Kurdish forces last month, and

questioned by the Americans.

Together with two others, they

formed a kidnap gang which became

known as the Beatles because they

were usually masked and the captors

could only hear their British

accents. British aid worker Alan

Henning was one of the least two

dozen foreign hostages they held

Henning was one of the least two

dozen foreign hostages they held

captive and then executed. Last

year, the American State Department

designated Alexanda Kotey and El

Shafee Elsheikh is wanted terrorists

who had fought for Islamic state.

Kotey was born in Paddington, of

carne in and Greek Cypriots

background. The citations said he

used:

used: Elsheikh's family had fled Sue

Dann in the 1990s and he became a

British citizen. According to the

State Department, he developed a

reputation for water boarding, mock

executions and crucifixions. The two

men were grabbed by a Kurdish led

militia. The fate of the two men is

unknown. They could be sent to the

US detention centre at Guantanamo

Bay or they could stand trial in the

States. The UK Foreign Office said

it would not comment on individual

cases or ongoing investigations.

Andi Mohr, BBC News.

Andi Mohr, BBC News. -- Andy Moore.

For the second time in a week,

US stock markets have fallen

sharply, with the Dow Jones index

falling more than 4 per cent.

Sean's with us on the

sofa to tell us more.

Why's this happening?

There are concerns about interest

rates, are they still bothering

markets?

Definitely they are. At the

beginning of the week in America, we

saw falls of 4% or more in the

American stock market, that Dow

Jones industrial average.

The

equivalent of our FTSE 100.

30 of

the biggest companies in America.

That fell by 4% earlier in the week.

Then we had a few days which were

more calm. Last night in America,

another fall of 4%. Overall, from

the top of the market, you could say

we have seen a fall of around 10%.

To put it in context, the US market

has been up by about 50%. You can

picture the graph. Some would say it

is a correction rather than a

crisis. But why interest rates?

Investors are thinking, if interest

rates are going to start going up,

our own Governor of the Bank of

England said we are looking to see

interest rates go up sooner than we

previously thought. If that happens,

people are more likely to put their

money into savings accounts and

things linked to interest rates

because you get a better return

which is why you start to see a fall

in the stock market so people are

not too sure what is going to happen

next.

We will keep an eye on it.

Human eggs have been fully grown

in a laboratory for the first time.

Scientists removed egg

cells from ovary tissue

at their earliest stage

of development, and matured them

to the point they were

ready for fertilisation.

Researchers at Edinburgh University

say it could help to preserve

fertility in women, such as those

undergoing chemotherapy.

Key US government agencies have

shut down for the second time

in three weeks.

-- The Senate failed to vote

on a budget deal before a midnight

deadline, after a Republican senator

demanded a last minute ammendment.

For the temporary shutdown to end,

the spending deal must be passed

in both the Senate and the House

of Representatives and then signed

by the President.

When we show you pictures

of groundbreaking research taking

place in laboratories,

it's usually the scientists

who wear the goggles.

But in this experiment

into insects' vision

at the University of Newcastle,

it was praying mantises

who were fitted

with tiny 3D glasses.

And if you're wondering how

the spectacles stay in place,

they were stuck on

temporarily using beeswax.

Researchers say the results will be

used to help develop robots.

It's like a mini personal cinema.

That was their many personal insect

cinema. We are going to talk a lot

about this later on. Why would you

put 3-D glasses on a bug?

Apparently, function of their eyes

are less complicated than ours. If

scientists can figure out how they

see 3-D, they can use that

information to get robots to see

3-D. Rather than a robot being

programmed to come over to that

point, it will be able to see you.

What Bill were they watching?

It was

the circle is going round and round

film.

The praying mantis, one of

those early species that will

survive a nuclear will --a nuclear

war.

I thought that was cockroaches.

It is praying mantis is as well. I

used to have a thing about praying

mantis is. It was one of those great

little creatures. Have you got one

in the studio?

No, we don't.

I can't believe it. Katie Ormerod,

when Britain's greatest hopes, on a

snowboard, has broken her at heel.

We had a picture of her on that very

screen with the rest cast.

She was

competing on Sunday but then

overnight, another training injury.

That means she is out of the game is

completely. Absolutely awful.

completely. Absolutely awful. She

has tweeted that it is the worst

luck she has had.

She broke her

keel, not a wrangle, just a day

after fracturing her wrist. She is

already had surgery. She had been

due to compete in the big error

vents. Those of the medical pictures

showing the extent of the injury.

That will help bind it. The action

is under way in the right to Opening

Ceremony. Going well in the team

pairs event are the Olympic athletes

from Russia. But while they are

competing, two coaches have lost

their appeals. They won't be at the

Winter Olympics.

West Bromwich Albion striker

Jay Rodriguez says he'll

prove his innocence after being

charged by the FA for using racist

language in an incident involving

the Brighton defender

Gaetan Bong last month.

He has until the 16th

of February to respond.

And rugby union referee Joy Neville

will make history again tonight -

she'll be the first woman to take

charge of a Pro-14 match.

The former Ireland international

is already the first woman

to referee a European club fixture -

that was in December.

In the papers, something very odd

that Eddie Eagle has done. First of

all, this is Eddie the Eagle's

preview of the Winter Olympics. This

is the women's curling team. The

brooms looked like the ones I use in

the kitchen. Eddie the Eagle says he

once went down a bobsled track in a

walk at 70 miles an hour and its

span around and around. Have we got

pictures? No, we don't.

It sounds

like another big event.

I've tried

curling in a pub. Here they are

getting ready, the British team with

the Korean mascot.

Do we know the

name?

We will see a lot of that over

the next few weeks. Looking for the

first British competitor. We have

Ben Kelly in the Mogul skiing.

Those

are the bumpy skis.

We will be

looking ahead to some of the

characters and people who will be

involved in the Games. Very exciting

this morning.

It's gone off his!

-- piece.

It has been a few days.

Ministers warn employers after an

paid interns. An exclusive that the

Guardian says it has the government

is launching a crack down on unpaid

internships which has resulted in

550 warning letters sent to

companies and enforcement teams to

tackle repeat offenders. Mike was

just showing all of the stars and

characters to look out for in the

Winter Olympics. Lizzy Yarnold on

the front page.

This is the front page on the

Telegraph. The story has been

knocking around for a few days, the

campaign about a new media campaign

that is suggesting they will be

putting up the arguments for us

remaining within Europe. Then on the

Daily Telegraph their lead story is

the reporter says they've seen a

memo from Jeremy Corbyn, in

connection with his meeting with

Michel Barnier. Worth saying that I

understand the Labour Party have a

very different aspect is on this

particular story. Maybe we will find

out more about that later.

We've been talking about interest

rates and the concern about interest

rates going higher.

That's what makes the front of the

FT this morning, a hawkish Bank of

England signalling a swift rate rise

to keep inflation in check.

Effectively that means they might be

looking to raise rates sooner than

they previously thought, which will

be an interesting one. We will be

talking more about that in about 20

minutes. We have one of the chief

execs of a major bank on.

Every time

we talk about this, the cautionary

word is really important. Mortgage

rates are still historically low.

Hugely. It is clearly a significant

moment when they start ratcheting

up. At compared with the routine

figures there used to be for so many

years...

Routine for many people

affected by interest rates in the

90s, but for so many people who

owned a house for ten years they

haven't seen a rise in interest

rates other than the one we saw last

year. That's where it gets

important. A lot of people used to

low interest rates. And the cap on

Downing Street on the FT. Getting

into every paper.

What is the cat's

named?

Larry. That is the attempt to

stroke him, and that the chief

executive of Mitsubishi in Europe.

Diplomacy in action. If he known for

being rather elusive? Larry, not the

chairman.

I'm not an expert on

either, I have to admit.

Thank you

and see you both later. Let's find

out what's happening with the

weather. We can take a look from

above. Carol is somewhere on the

roof of New Broadcasting House, in

central London.

Is it pouring

central London.

Is it pouring with rain where you

are? It was chucking it down

earlier, but the rain has stopped.

The forecast for today is another

cold one. Not as cold as yesterday,

but cold nonetheless. The risk of

ice this morning on untreated

surfaces. Something to be aware of

if you are heading out early. Also

once again some wintry showers in

the forecast, meaning a mixture of

rain, sleet and snow and at times on

some of the heavier showers we will

see some of that at lower levels as

well. Some snow on the hills through

the day. In the south-west first of

all you can see we've got some

wintry showers, as we have in Wales,

north-west England and south-west

Scotland. We also have the remnants

of the rain moving away from the

south-eastern corner. For the rest

of us we are off to a dry start and

when the sun gets up there will be a

fair bit of sunshine around. Looking

at the forecast for the day, you can

see how the rain moves away from the

south-east. It lightens up with

sunshine. The wintry showers in the

west will start to move towards the

east, across the Midlands, through

Yorkshire and Lincolnshire and

temperatures still in single figures

for most of us. Into the evening and

overnight, we start with snow

showers in East Anglia. They will

move away, cold air moves in behind,

clear skies and again the risk of

ice. Then high pressure comes on,

accompanied by a front, bringing in

rain, snow and strengthening winds.

Through tomorrow that will move

eastwards, so we start on a cold

note in central and eastern areas,

but with sunny spells. This band

will come in. Increasingly the snow

will be in the hills and we have

rain at lower levels. Notice the

winds, especially in southern areas,

costing up to 50 miles an hour. --

gusting. Into Sunday, on Sunday

itself we have wintry showers in the

forecast. There will still be a lot

of dry weather around and it will

still feel cold and some of those

wintry showers will get down to

lower levels. As for the outlook, it

does remain cold even as we head on

into next week. So I know you love

the cold, Naga, so this must be a

into next week. So I know you love

the cold, Naga, so this must be a

really nice forecast for you.

Thank you very much! I appreciate

it.

Keep warm.

You can see my bottle of water on

the desk. In this place, this is

about the worst thing you can do.

Show people that we drink water

during the programme. Shocking. My

profound apologies to people who

thought we didn't drink water.

You missed the point. The point is

it's a plastic bottle. That's the

problem.

Richard Handley had Downs Syndrome

and was just 33 years

old when he died from complications

caused by severe constipation.

Yesterday, an inquest found

there were "gross and very

significant failings" in his care

and opportunities to give him

life-saving treatment were missed.

The government is currently

reviewing the deaths of people

with learning disabilities

in England and is due to publish

the first of its

findings next month.

This programme has been told

there is concern over a significant

number of cases.

Richard was cheeky and a huge sense

of the ridiculous.

Toilet humour.

Yes. Close to Richard's heart.

Because that's how the family dealt

with what was a lifelong problem for

Richard. Constipation. A problem

which should have been manageable,

but which killed him when he was 33.

It's just so incomprehensible, isn't

it?

It so devastating, really. It

shouldn't have happened.

Richard's

dye it was well looked after by his

family and care home, but when that

care home turned into supported

living he was allowed to eat what he

liked. By the time he was admitted

into hospital his constipation was

so severe he appeared full-time

pregnant.

I saw a picture of him

actually when he was lying on the

hospital bed. The picture was taken

after he had had one of the

procedures to hopefully reduce the

size of his tummy and looking at

that picture I couldn't believe my

eyes.

If all those measures to

protect him had been in place, it

wouldn't have happened.

He would

still be here?

He would still be

here, yes. I'd still have a son.

You'd still have a brother.

Yesterday, and inquest hearing

Ipswich found missed opportunities

to help Richard gross failures to

act by the hospital, report after

report has shown there are too many

avoidable deaths and three years ago

Jeremy Hunt ordered a world first,

scrutiny of every single death of a

learning disabled person in England.

It will be a very important moment

to step out and look at the way we

look after that particular highly

vulnerable group.

That review will

publish its first report next month,

what we've learnt that one in ten

deaths looked at so far have come

with red flag indicators. That might

mean, as with Richard, there is

evidence that treatment was delayed,

or perhaps there is evidence of

abuse or neglect or concerns have

been raised by a family member. This

woman led the serious case review

into Richard's death and also the

scandal of Winterbourne View. She

says both cases exposed a system

which cares deeply at the point of

birth, but less as a child becomes

an adult.

We know that they can be

fantastic when an infant derives in

this world -- arrives. The NHS has

done some astonishing things to keep

those alive. However, that appears

to caper and certainly sustained

austerities has shown us that

services have reduced and workforces

have diminished and that is left

families, some families,

floundering.

And do you think has

cost some learning disabled people

their life? Yes, indeed. It has. The

family have received apologies from

the hospital, the council and the

care provider. All sailors and have

been learnt, a phrase often use of

the unavoidable death. The

department for health say they must

stop. From July trusts will have the

published data on deaths and

evidence of improvement. NHS England

say they are committed to improving

the lives of people with a learning

disability.

Jayne's here now.

So many things from your film. One

is of course the personal poll taken

on Richard's family, then the bigger

questions about what difference this

will make. -- toll.

This is a world

first. No one has done a national

review of any group of death before

and they hope it will make changes.

They hope that this national review

of all learning disability deaths

will enable people to learn from

mistakes. Families like Richard's

are sick of hearing that phrase,

lessons have been learnt. We will

learn from mistakes. Six months

after Richard died in a hospital,

another person died. They had

learning disabilities and died of

constipation. There are good of

elements going on. Things like

healthcare passport for people with

learning disabilities, things like

an annual health review for people

with learning disabilities. Richard

had that passport. It said he was

largely independent. That was wrong.

Richard was invited to an annual

health check. He missed the

appointment and was struck off the

GP surgery, Cosby wrote to him to

invite him. He can't read and nobody

read him the letter. These

initiatives and changes are only

ever as good as the people and

systems that are implementing them.

The coroner did say there was one

thing that could have saved Richard,

a healthcare co-ordinator. Somebody

who had overarching review of what

he needed and to deal with all of

these agencies and join up the dots.

Last night the Department of Health

said they had no plans to introduce

this.

Thank you very much.

This morning we are going to go to

the national history Museum's dippy

the dinosaur. Well, it is no longer

at the Natural History Museum

because it started a UK tour. John

Maguire is with him this morning.

Good morning. Dippy takes his bow.

We are in Dorchester at the museum

and he is going on a two-year tour.

He has been out of the public days

for the first time in more than 100

years and has been refurbished. He

has been to Canada and he is now

back and will go on a nationwide

tour. It has -- will take two years

to get round. What is really cool

about this is that Dorchester is the

home of palaeontology, as we are

just up the road from the Jurassic

coast, where people are still

finding dinosaur fossils. Also this

view, the mezzanine, we didn't have

that at the natural history museum,

so it's a wonderful and perhaps

natural location. It is almost a

homecoming.

homecoming. Originally it roamed in

what is now the US. Not quite a

homecoming, I think you get what I

am saying. Anyway, we will tell you

more about him and have a great look

around and we will also completely.

292 bones, but there is one missing

and we will put the final one in

later.

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

in half an hour.

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

Bye for now.

Hello - this is Breakfast

with Charlie Stayt and Naga

Munchetty.

We'll bring you all the latest news

and sport in a moment,

but also

on Breakfast this morning.

Snow, skis and skating.

The Opening Ceremony

of the Winter Olympics takes place

in South Korea today

and after eight, Clare Balding

I don't think that was her there.

When was the last time you sent

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Good morning,

here's a summary of today's main

stories from BBC News.

There are just hours to go

until the Opening Ceremony

of the Winter Olympics

in South Korea.

The US Vice-President Mike Pence

and sister of the North Korean

leader, Kim Jong-un,

are expected to be among those

watching the event in Pyeongchang.

47 Russian athletes and coaches

implicated in doping

allegations have lost a last-minute

appeal to take part in the Games.

Two British extremists believed to

be one of the most notorious Islamic

State sells members have been

captured in Syria. They were part of

the unit comprising four men from

London who became known as the

Beatles because of their British

accents. The State Department said

they beheaded more than 27 Western

hostages and tortured many more.

Global stock markets have continued

their volatility. It follows another

day of corrections in share prices

on Wall Street. The Dow Jones fell

by more than 1000 points for the

second time this week. There are

concerns central banks are going to

raise interest rates.

Human eggs have been fully grown

in a laboratory for the first time.

Scientists removed egg

cells from ovary tissue

at their earliest stage

of development, and matured them

to the point they were

ready for fertilisation.

Researchers at Edinburgh University

say it could help to preserve

fertility in women, such as those

undergoing chemotherapy.

Key US government agencies have

shut down for the second time

in three weeks.

The Senate failed to vote

on a budget deal before a midnight

deadline, after a republican senator

demanded a last minute ammendment.

For the temporary shutdown to end,

the spending deal must be passed

in both the Senate and the House

of Representatives and then signed

by the President.

Marble's newest film, black Panther,

took place -- had its premiere take

place in London last night. -- Micro

three. The actor Michael B Jordan

said the bill was empowering the

young black people.

My ten-year-old

son did not have many superheroes to

identify with sober the kids to be

able to dream and imagine and see

themselves, without the typical

stereotypes were used to seeing, I

think it is extremely important for

the future.

Good to see some strong

female characters as well which is

pretty typical Marvel films. We will

see some strong characters in the

Winter Olympics but one of them,

young hopeful, you are gutted for.

One of the things that make the

Olympic -- the Winter Olympics so

great, the lottery of the snow and

ice. You can get injured in training

as Katie Ormerod has done, only 20,

a gold-medal hope. The last

Olympics, remember it was about

Elyse Christie getting disqualified.

For Katie Ormerod, she must wait for

another four years.

What is her

event? There was the snowboarding.

The big air, we do lots of tricks

but the one where you go down the

hill and ferries things on the way

down.

The potential for medals. But

she is out, she is in hospital and

has had surgery done.

has had surgery done. In

snowboarding, it's very painful. You

can't do about that.

We keep hearing it could be the best

wintyer olympics ever

Winter Olympics for Great britain,

and we mustn't take it for granted

It began in 1924, the first Winter

Olympics.

It all began in the 1920s. This was

Saint Moritz, one of the early

venues which went on to stage the

Olympics in 1928. British success in

those early years came be ice

hockey. The team here eventually won

gold in 1936. These days, they don't

qualify. Also, Bobsleigh. How

different sport was then, no

protective walls and by 64, it was

gold. The first-ever winter Gold in

Great Britain was made in Scotland.

These pictures show how massive

curling had begun -- become,

inspired by the gold medal in 1924.

All the thrills of watching the £30

stones as they are called smooth

over the ice. The trouble was, after

its appearance in the inaugural

games, it wasn't reintroduced until

1998 and didn't -- and it didn't

take long for Team GB to strike gold

again.

It's looking good. She's done

it.

Salt Lake City, 2002. The other

winter sport in which Britain has

struck gold as figure skating. From

the Queen of the ice Jeannette

artwork in 1952 to the golden years

of John Curry in the 1970s, Robin

cousins and many iconic moment of

turbulent team but a generation,

that was it. There was Eddie Eagle

to look to the hearts and a

scattering of bonds but the barren

ewes continued until Britain found

its place again. And then the

survivors of 2006 full is -- 2006.

Led by Lizzie Arnold and the

supporting crew of four years ago

which proved the current generation

never had it so good.

We can cross live now to Andy Swiss

who's in Pyeongchang.

First of all, we start with a low

lights. Katie Ormerod was carrying

on with a wrist batch of.

on with a wrist batch of. Horribly

cruel luck for Katie Ormerod. 24

hours later, she has broken a heel

and it is a bad break as well. She

was taken to Seoul for emergency

surgery. She said, words can't

describe how gutted I am. It is a

real blow to Team GB because she was

one of the biggest medal hopes.

Russia, you may remember, is banned

from these games because of the

doping scandal but controversially,

169 Russian athletes have been

allowed to compete here as neutrals,

Olympic athletes from Russia, they

are called. We saw two of them

taking part in the figure skating

heats earlier on today. Earlier Ron,

47 more Russian athletes who wanted

to compete here have had their

requests rejected. Even so, this

whole issue has caused a lot of

uncertainty and confusion on the eve

of the Winter Olympics.

of the Winter Olympics. I have been

told the White Tiger is the mascot.

What else is in store?

The Opening

Ceremony gets under way at 11

o'clock this morning your time. The

big theme is peace. That seems

particularly relevant seeing that

North Korea and South Korea will be

parading under a single flag.

Something that would have seemed

unthinkable a few weeks ago. There

will be lots of noise, lots of

colour. As far as Team GB are

concerned, they will be led by

Lizzie Yarnold won gold in 2014.

Around 40 of Team GB's 59 athletes

will take part in the parade. They

will not be taking part in the

Opening Ceremony deceiving. The big

question is, how will they keep warm

and combat the chill. The big news

from the athletes and the

spectators, it does feel a lot

milder.

That does feel good after

the worries of yesterday. The

Opening Ceremony is live on BBC One.

Coverage starts at 10:30 a.m.. Then

Kelly is now representing France. I

was trying to claim him but he is

flying the French flag.

Or is he an

Olympic athlete from France.

And

OAF?

Human eggs have been fully grown

in a laboratory for the first time,

in what scientists hope

could be a breakthrough

in preserving fertility.

Researchers say it could offer

hope to women undergoing

treatments such as chemotherapy.

Let's find out more about this

from Professor Daniel Bryson,

who's a Professor of Embryology

at the University of Manchester.

Good morning to you. Can you give

us, if you like, the Leiman 's

version of this?

I think it's very

exciting because it's the first time

we've been able to grow human eggs

in the lab from an early stage. They

are dormant in the ovary when they

very tiny and immature. This allows

us to grow eggs in the lab for 20

days to the point where they are

mature and can be fertilised. The

first time we've been able to do

that in humans.

At what point have

they been removed?

Women are born

with several hundred thousand eggs

and they are immature and small and

dormant and when women reproduce,

they are released once a month. That

takes several months in the ovary.

Scientists have repeated that

process in the lab. Three phases.

The initial stage when they are very

small. Another stage when it matures

and it's the Burleigh Beach, the

growth but, that they've been able

to activate the eggs from being

dormant. That is the breakthrough.

Stupid question, how big is an egg?

Less than 0.1 millimetres. Tiny.

What has been a process in the

laboratory, who have they been taken

from?

They had tissue donated by

patients or they can use tissues

donated by patients who have

undergone cancer treatment. In this

study, they used fresh tissue. They

are taking bits of that tissue, put

it in the lab and dissected, taken

at the immature eggs. They put those

through this complex series of steps

using complicated chemical compounds

to get them through to maturity.

The

interesting part is the growth

element. Particularly for young

women who are undergoing

chemotherapy, cancer treatment. You

hear when older women are undergoing

chemotherapy, they can have their

eggs taken out and preserved but

it's the younger people this could

help.

Exactly. If the young girl or

woman goes to treatment, they can

surgically frees them all we can

make embryos with her partner and we

can take ovarian tissue and freeze

out that the only option with cancer

is to have transplanted back many

years later which is invasive and

risky. With this new technique we

can take the tissue out of the

freezer and take the eggs out and

grow them in the lab and use those

eggs in an IVF procedure. It was

another treatment to someone who has

cancer. That is very exciting for

the future. For some people, there

is a sense of concern about how much

science is doing.

Are those some

people who think, how far do we go

down certain alleys?

Most scientists

in this field are very responsible.

We have tight regulations. These

eggs that are matured in a lab would

never be used for treatment to make

a baby without full regulatory

oversight. The scientists involved

in the work emphasised these eggs

had to be tested to see if they are

normal, whether they can develop

normally we have a good reputation

but doing that in the UK.

Wasn't

nine out of 100 successful?

The

people doing this work, they need to

improve efficiency. They need to

make sure the eggs are very good

quality before they were testing and

the need to test them to make sure

they are normal and said they

develop normally. But this has been

20 years. We were able to do this 20

years ago with a mouse and now in

humans.

Dockers thank you very much.

-- thank you.

Here's Carol with a look

at this morning's weather.

Good morning.

Good morning. This morning for many

of our cities and as cold start to

the day as yesterday, that doesn't

mean it won't be a cold day. The

other thing to watch out for is ice

on untreated surfaces. An icy start

for some of us and we've also got

wintry showers in the forecast. Some

of those even at lower levels and

some of the heaviest showers into

the weekend. The unsettled theme

continues. At 9am in south-west

England and Wales we do have some

wintry showers. Not all of us are

seeing them. They extend across

northern England and parts of

southern Scotland. In between

there's a lot dry weather. We've

also got another weather front and

we are right under it at the moment

in London. It is producing rain and

that will continue to make its way

in away from the south-eastern

corner into the North Sea. The it

will brighten up. Wintry showers in

the west will drift eastwards across

the Midlands, into East Anglia,

Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. Some of

the heavier ones could be in the

levels. Temperature wise, still

feeling cold. As we head to this

evening and overnight we start with

wintry showers in East Anglia, but

they will clear and then it's going

to be a cold night. Then we have an

active weather front coming in

across the north-west. That will

introduce windier conditions and

rain and also some snow. It's a cold

night, so the risk of ice again. We

pick the system up tomorrow as it

continues to move eastwards. It will

be a clear start and a bright start

across central and eastern areas

first thing, but through the day the

cloud will build as the weather

front moves from west to east and it

will be very windy tomorrow,

especially in the south, with gusts

of up to 50 miles an hour. Not

particularly cold. Look at the

temperatures. Ten and 11 in the

south. Heading through the evening

and into Sunday, all the rain and

snow connected with this weather

front moves eastwards and it looks

like it could bring some snow across

southern Scotland and northern

England and rain for the rest of us.

And then for Sunday, behind it, it

will brighten up in central and

eastern areas and there will still

be wintry showers in the west. Some

of those in Northern Ireland and

Scotland, the heavier ones, could be

at sea level. Temperatures will

still feel cold and that cold theme

continues into Monday.

still feel cold and that cold theme

continues into Monday.

Thanks very much. It is a bit

drizzly. Keep dry under that

umbrella!

Let's talk about the prospect of

interest rates rising now.

Possibly suit an unexpected?

We were talking about it affecting

the stock market this week but it

could also affect a lot of savers

and borrowers as well and that's

something Mark Carney was talking

about yesterday. Good morning.

Yesterday Mark Carney and his team

gave us an update on the Bank

of England's thinking

on interest rates.

They have been at historic lows

for a long time now.

But in November the Bank of England

raised the cost of borrowing

for the first time in more than ten

years from 0.25% to 0.5%.

Its forecasts at the time indicated

there could be two more increases

of 0.25% over three years.

But yesterday, this is where things

changed, he gave a strong hint

that they were likely to go up

faster than we'd been expecting,

particularly if we take

into account how the economy

is going, rising steadily

as it is at the moment.

So what will that mean

for borrowers and savers?

Craid Donaldson is boss

of Metro Bank the boss of one

of the UK's newest banks.

When you hear is -- Mark Carney St

Bees restraint rises could be bigger

than we expected does that mean you

can pass on in full any interest

rate rise that the Bank of England

announces to savers?

I think what

Mark Carney was trying to warn

everybody for was getting ready, so

they are prepared. I expect rates

will be passed on to savers and

borrowers as well. There will be a

management to look after borrowers

and savers.

What is the link between

what the Bank of England says

interest rates are and your savings

account? If you have 0.7% of an

interest rate, if they go up by

0.25% in the next few months does

that mean you can put up your

savings rates by 0.25%?

Fully pass

it on? I don't know if we will fully

pass it on, but we put it up. We

will look at the lending rates. If

we pass it on to mortgages they will

also go on to savers. So it's really

looking at the difference between

deposits and lending and that's what

happens to people in markets.

So you

have mortgage products as well, so

you will be lending money to people.

Do you think people are ready for a

rate rise? Can they handle what we

might see in the next couple of

years?

The vast majority have been

on fixed rates. So they will be

fine. Also when we lend to people we

do it at a rate higher than

borrowing to make sure they can

afford it if rates go up. But four

out of ten people are sitting on a

standard variable rate. They play a

lot more money. -- pay. If you don't

understand that, talk to somebody,

because you shouldn't be paying that

much.

Mark Carney says, in terms of

the state of the economy...

How do

you view things? We have over 1000

customers, business customers,

joining us every week and they say

they are growing, recruiting people

and building their businesses,

carrying on. So I do see the

strength in the economy. That's why

we are creating 900 jobs this year,

because we are growing because we

are winning customers every day.

Where are you growing? Last week we

spoke about people... Branches being

closed. Can you open them where

people really need them?

We are

looking at Wolverhampton at the

moment, Birmingham, we are in

Manchester today and we will look at

places around Manchester, Leeds,

Liverpool. We are looking at new

markets, to grow nationally, but we

look after personal customers and we

also look after. Businesses We

really do need more competition on

the high street.

Not necessarily

rule villages?

We will get there. It

will just take time.

We will be

talking much more about that through

the morning.

Very interesting. Thank you.

Dippy is on tour. That's a dinosaur

travelling around the UK. And with

him is John Maguire! Good morning.

Good morning. Yes, 150 million years

ago Dippy and his mates were roaming

the planet and now he will go on a

two year tour around the UK. It is a

cast of the dinosaur bones. 292 made

of plaster of Paris. The great thing

about this location in Dorchester,

this is the home of palaeontology.

You also get this mezzanine view of

him, which you didn't use to get at

the Natural History Museum in

London. We will take you down to

have a closer images, and we can

tell you more about the process of

actually bringing in here. You may

remember about one year ago he left

the Natural History Museum. He had

been on display for more than 100

years. I think they took on

downstairs to keep him safe during

the Second World War. Now he's back

is about to go on this big journey

across the UK. Good morning. How has

this process being?

Long, exciting,

moments of, will it fit in the

space? It's been absolutely

brilliant and we are so delighted

with the outcome. Don't you think it

looks great in this space?

He does

look great. 25 metres long and he

fits in perfectly.

We just had to

take out a little bit of the balcony

to fit the tailing. There was a lot

of measuring going on. It came in at

86 pieces, but this race was over

200 pieces to put together, so it

was a long time. -- this base.

Dorset County has been fabulous.

This is a huge win for you. You will

double your numbers!

We are

anticipating a significant number of

people coming, up to 70,000 in the

next three months. It's a massive

moment for this museum and for this

part of the UK.

Let's have a bit

more of a walk round as we talk.

What is it you think that people

would want to see? Why is he so

exciting and inspirational?

I think

it is an exceptionally iconic museum

specimen. World-famous, from a whole

range of films and TV programmes.

Here's what people imagine a museum

dinosaur looks like. Why you would

want to see him here is you get a

very different experience. You get

much more up close and personal with

Dippy in this space, then previously

in the Natural History Museum. The

mezzanine at the new dimension and

one that is unique, I think.

Thank

you. The other thing that strikes me

about seeing him as a skeleton and

not as a model is you get an idea of

his physiology and how he would have

walked. How dinosaurs would have

made their way across the surface of

the planet 150 million years ago.

You can see him across the UK over

the next two years. For now, we

leave

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

in half an hour.

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

Bye for now.

Hello - this is Breakfast,

with Charlie Stayt

and Naga Munchetty.

Just hours to the start of the 23rd

Winter Olympic Games

in South Korea.

Diplomacy is high on the agenda

as senior figures from North Korea

and the US arrive in PyeongChang

for the Opening Ceremony.

And heartbreak overnight for British

medal hopeful Katie Ormerod -

she's broken her heel

in snowboard training,

and is out of the Games -

she'd already fractured her wrist.

This is the scene in Pyeongchang

just before the opening ceremony -

we'll talk about diplomacy.

Good morning.

Also, two British men are to be

Islamic State militants are

captured. Also, the prospect of high

interest rates. More on that in a

moment.

moment. Scientists succeed in

raising human eggs in the

laboratory. A band of rain in the

south-east of England. That will

clear, leaving sunny skies behind

but we also have wintry showers

moving from the West to the east.

More in 15 minutes. Perfect weather

to be standing on top of the

building in London.

Good morning.

First, our main story.

There are just hours to go

until the Opening Ceremony

of the Winter Olympics

in South Korea.

The US Vice-President Mike Pence

and sister of the North Korean

leader, Kim Jong-un,

are expected to arrive

in Pyeongchang shortly

to watch the event.

47 Russian athletes and coaches

implicated in doping

allegations have lost a last-minute

appeal to take part in the Games.

Our correspondent,

Stephen McDonell reports.

After years of preparation,

the PyeongChang Winter Olympics

is here.

The venues are ready

and the spectators are pouring in.

The cold and windy conditions don't

seem to be dampening people's

enthusiasm but even the most

diehard sports fans

are finding it difficult to dodge

the political manoeuvres

being played out of these games.

The North Korean leader's sister,

Kim Yo-jong, will be

at the Opening Ceremony and she'll

also meet South Korea's President,

Moon Jae-in.

The United States government has

dispatched Vice-President Mike Pence

who says he is here to challenge

the North Koreans, reminding people

of the country's human rights abuses

and nuclear weapons programme.

Many South Koreans say

they find it a bit

odd that the Trump administration

has decided to counter the North

with its own propaganda

offensive at the Olympics.

But there are divided opinions

amongst locals at these games

over how they'll feel when North

and South Korean athletes

march into the stadium together.

TRANSLATION:

Many in the older

generation view this negatively.

They say, why this

unification flag and

not the South Korean flag?

TRANSLATION:

I hope this

Olympics melts the snow,

but it is a gradual

melt, not too fast.

Naturally, once elite athletes start

hitting the slopes here,

then they will take centrestage

and for many spectators,

this can't come soon enough,

but even in the sporting arena,

there are political

dimensions here following

the recent doping scandal.

Just hours before

the Opening Ceremony

was due to start, 45 Russian

athletes and two coaches

lost their appeal to participate.

Those Russian athletes

who are allowed to compete

here will do so under the Olympic

flag and following any medals,

the Olympic theme will be played.

Stephen McDonell, BBC News

at the PyeongChang Olympics.

Two British extremists,

believed to be members of one

of the so-called Islamic State

group's most notorious cells,

have been captured by

Syrian Kurdish fighters in Syria

according to US officials.

They are accused of

being part of a unit

which executed 27 Western hostages

and tortured many more.

Andy Moore reports.

Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee

Elsheikh, the two Britons captured

by Kurdish forces last month,

and questioned by the Americans.

Together with Aine Davis

and Mohammed Emwazi,

they formed the kidnap gang that

became known as the 'Beatles'

because they were usually

masked and their captors

could hear only their

British accents.

British aid worker Alan Henning

was just one of at least two

dozen foreign hostages they held

captive and then executed.

Last year, the American

State Department

designated Kotey and Elsheikh

as wanted terrorists

who had fought for Islamic state.

Kotey was born in

Paddington in London.

He was of Ghanaian and

Greek Cypriot background.

The citation said he used

exceptionally cruel torture methods

including electronic

shock and waterboarding.

Elsheikh's family had

fled Sudan in the 1990s.

He became a British citizen.

According to the State Department,

he'd earned a reputation for

waterboarding, mock

executions and crucifixions.

The two men were captured

by the American-backed Syrian

Democratic Forces, a Kurdish-led

militia.

The fate of the two men is unknown.

They could be sent to the US

detention centre at Guantanamo Bay

or they could stand

trial in the States.

The Foreign Office in the UK said it

would not comment on individual

cases or ongoing investigations.

Andy Moore, BBC News.

The owner of the Mirror

and Sunday Mirror has just announced

it's to buy the Express

and Star newspapers,

as well as celebrity magazine, OK!

Sean's here - how

significant a deal is this?

The Daily Express, the Daily Star,

OK! Magazine. The company that owns

the Daily Mirror, the Trinity Mirror

group, have proposed an acquisition

that they would like to buy these

titles for £130 million.

It's been

much rumoured, this link, at some

point about why they would like to

do it. You can see from the Commons

this morning from the Chief

Executive about the thinking behind

it, there are a lot of synergies, a

lot of efficiencies that can be made

between big companies like these and

they merge. Duplication, minimising,

reducing duplication, is something

that jumps out at me when you look

at the comments you. The printing of

these papers, the stories, the

websites. The stories are similar,

aren't they? There may be some

efficiencies. Very interesting.

efficiencies. Very interesting. They

are different aren't they? How does

that work? All quite important as

well. The reduction in local

newspapers recently, what is going

in the newspaper industry. We will

be speaking to the boss of Trinity

Mirror and about 30 minutes.

We are

talking about that interest rate

rises. That will have an impact on

equity markets.

The Dow Jones, the

equivalent of our FTSE 100, since

last November, he conceded that a

good run. It had an even better run

before that but right at the end,

that is key bit. We saw one big fall

of 4% on Monday night and we talked

about that. Then it bounced back a

little bit but last night, in

America, there was a fall of 4%.

There are falls in Asia overnight.

That is because people are thinking

interest rates might be on the rise.

If interest rates are on the rise,

people might start putting their

money into things linked to interest

rates like interest accounts and not

the stock market.

We will keep an

eye on that, especially when the

markets open.

especially when the markets open.

Researchers at Edinburgh University

have grown human eggs

in a laboratory for the first time.

The team say their findings

could lead to new ways of preserving

women's fertility .

Here's our Health and

Science Correspondent,

James Gallagher.

In laboratories in Edinburgh,

scientists have grown human eggs.

They had taken immature eggs that

women are born with and transformed

them so they are ready

to be fertilised.

It's taken decades of work to copy

what happens inside women's ovaries.

We never imagined that we would be

getting these kind of results

using human tissue.

So it's a significant step, but,

of course, the main objective for us

is to improve and determine

the safety of these techniques,

so that they could, in the future,

see an application.

It could be used for young girls

with cancer, as treatment can

damage their fertility.

So how would that work?

A girl diagnosed with cancer

would have a sample of her ovary

frozen before cancer treatment,

then later, as an adult,

the tissue would be defrosted,

an egg grown, fertilised,

and then put in the womb.

There may even be other applications

in fertility treatment.

This treatment is at an early

stage and needs refining.

None of the eggs have been

fertilised, so it is still uncertain

how viable they are.

James Gallagher, BBC News.

Key US government agencies have

shut down for the second time

in three weeks.

The Senate failed to vote

on a budget deal before a midnight

deadline, after a republican senator

demanded a last minute ammendment.

For the temporary shutdown to end,

the spending deal must be passed

in both the Senate and the House

of Representatives and then signed

by the President.

When we show you pictures

of groundbreaking research taking

place in laboratories,

it's usually the scientists

who wear the goggles.

But in this experiment

into insects' vision

at the University of Newcastle,

it was praying mantises

who were fitted

with tiny 3D glasses.

And if you're wondering how

the spectacles stay in place,

they were stuck on

temporarily using beeswax.

Researchers say the results will be

used to help develop robots.

We'll be talking about that a little

bit later.

Later today, the sister

of the North Korean leader

will attend the Winter

Olympics Opening Ceremony.

Kim Yo-jong will be the most senior

member of the ruling family

to ever visit South Korea.

So what do we know about her?

Part of the high-level

delegation sent by Pyongyang,

Ms Kim is the younger sister

of Kim Jong-un and a close adviser.

She is said to be very close

to the regime's leader.

The two of them lived

and studied together in Berne,

Switzerland.

She is the granddaughter

of North Korean founder

and President Kim Il-sung

and the daughter of Kim Jong-il.

She has been on the US

sanctions list for a year,

because of alleged links

to human rights abuses.

Let's speak to Ramon

Pacheco Pardo

Korea Chair at the

Insititute for European

studies.

Good morning to you. Established to

us how important Kim Yo-jong years

and her arrival at the Winter

Olympics. She is the first member of

the Kim family -- family to visit

South Korea.

She is very close to

her brother plus she has a

her brother plus she has a very high

position in the government of North

Korea, the politburo, so she has

political power and family ties.

Just tell is a bit more about the

relationship between her and her

older brother. He is four years old.

They grow up together in

Switzerland. They know each other

since they were little which is not

that common in the North Korean

ruling family. In addition, she was

part of the propaganda machine that

put her brother in power and

basically made him retain power a

few years ago. Also I think this is

quite significant that if you look

at other members of the Kim family,

some have been executed. She is

ruling together with her brother in

the same politburo. She has a

position of power that other members

of the family don't have.

Do you

think she will be bringing with her

a direct message from North Korea to

South Korea and indeed, to the

Americans who are represented at the

Games by Mike Pence?

To South Korea,

definitely. Apparently there will be

a mention tomorrow between herself

and the South Korean president. I

don't think the Americans want to

meet with her. They are banned from

doing so because there are sanctions

on her but when it comes to South

Korea, I think she's probably going

to express to South Korea North

Korea wants to economic ties and it

wants to start again Family Reunion

is an improved relations between the

two countries.

We will get some of

those pictures and they will be

important in the international stage

but the reality check here is that

simultaneously, as we understand it,

North Korea is planning one of their

giant military parades. On the one

hand, the Winter Olympics gives them

an opportunity to send out one

message but they are keen to send

out a different one. Almost

simultaneously.

Absolutely. Looking

at the military parade, it is the

way to North Korea to tell the US

and the international community they

are missile power, don't ever strike

us. On the other hand you see this

dramatic approach towards South

Korea, which is a different and --

message. We are willing to discuss

important issues with South Korea

and the international community. We

have the military power, but we want

to have normal diplomatic relations

with other countries.

Thank you very

much for your time this morning.

That was the Korean share at the

Institute for Korean Studies.

Here's Carol with a look

at this morning's weather.

Braving the elements up I on the

roof of new broadcasting house in

London. It doesn't look great at

there!

London. It doesn't look great at

there!

You are taking one for the team. It

is raining in London. It's been on

and off, but it is coming down

heavily at the moment. It will

however clear. For most of us

because we have cloud and rain

around, it's not as cold start the

day as it was yesterday, but it will

still be a day, especially if you

are hanging around our lives. The

forecast is again feeling cold. The

risk of ice on untreated surfaces

this morning. Some wintry showers in

the forecast as well and we will

lose the rain that we currently have

in London in the next few hours.

Starting at 9am, these are the

wintry showers in south-west

England, Wales, parts of northern

England and also across south-east

Scotland. By wintry showers I mean a

mix of rain, sleet and snow. As we

pull out to the big map you can see

that we've got the rain continuing

to move away from south-east

England, so behind, a lot of dry

weather and a fair bit of sunshine.

But the wintry showers in the west

will be drifting eastwards as we go

through the course of the day and

you can see them almost anywhere.

Temperatures, most of us in single

figures, so still feeling cold.

Then, heading through this evening

and overnight, we start with wintry

showers across East Anglia. They

will leave a cold night behind with

a lot of moisture round. Again the

risk of ice on untreated surfaces.

Then they will be low pressure with

an active front, coming in from the

north-west and introducing rain,

with snow, mostly on the hills, and

strengthening winds. So tomorrow we

start on a nice, bright and clear

note across central and eastern

parts of the UK, but the system

coming in from the west is moving

eastwards through the day. So the

cloud will continue and another

feature of the more's weather is it

will be wintry, especially in the

south, with gusts of up to 60 mph

potentially. So increasingly the

snow will retreat into the hills and

it will be rain at lower levels.

That will cross us during the course

of Saturday night. It could bring

snow across southern Scotland and

also northern England. It clears

into the North Sea on Sunday and

high did we have a cold day once

again. Sunshine in east, still

wintry showers in the west and some

of those even at lower levels will

get down as snow. As we head into

the new week we continue with this

cold thing.

the new week we continue with this

cold thing.

Yet you say it with a smile on your

face!

It's winter, it's not as bad.

You stay out there than!

Of the 800 UK nationals who have

travelled to fight for so-called

Islamic State, four brutal killers

dubbed 'The Beatles',

because of their British accents,

were the most notorious.

One of them, a militant

nicknamed Jihadi John,

was killed in a drone

strike in 2015.

Another was jailed

in Turkey last year.

Now the remaining two have been

captured by Kurdish fighters.

Let's talk more about this to Dr

Shiraz Maher, from the

International Centre

for the Study of Radicalisation.

Thank you very much for joining us

this morning. What do you know about

the capture of these two British

men?

I think their capture is highly

significant because 'The Beatles'

were a wanted group. They had been

known to have held a number of

Westerners hostage as and when known

to be incredibly brutal to those

they had in their captivity. These

men who were beheaded ultimately by

IS had been held before that for

quite a long period of time and had

been subjected to the most vicious

kind of torture by these people. The

fact that these two individuals have

now been caught will be very

significant and of course there will

be a lot of intelligence that people

want to know about.

What does the

future hold? Will they be trialled

or questioned?

There's a bit of a

legal grey whole right now. A number

of Western and British foreign

fighters who had travelled out there

and joined Islamic State have been

captured by the Kurds in some

instances, by the Free Syrian Army

in others. Those in the Iraqi side

tend to be passed over in the state

custody on that side of the board.

So there are some reports emerging

that these two individuals would

have been transferred into US

military custody. If they are we

could expect to see them stand trial

at some date in the future.

I

suppose what a lot of this comes

down to is how cooperative they will

be. Is there any history of captured

jihadist being cooperative with

authorities?

I think you do find

that. Not all of them will talk, but

increasingly with a number of IS

individuals who have been captured

and detained, you see them express

remorse about what they've done and

as a result of that really opening

up to their captors. That happened

in a number of cases. It is hard to

know with these individuals how hard

and they are and how committed they

remained to be ideology they were

once following, but time will tell

as to whether they will give up a

lot of their secrets.

What is the

situation in regards to the group

they were in, in terms of the

atrocities or things they've been

involved in?

It's important to know

that of course Islamic State

captured the world-class market

attention when it became a protest

state and government large parts of

Syria and Iraq. Of course the

western mac road led dilatory

campaign against them resulted in

that aspect of the group being

pushed back -- Western. But that's

not the be all and end all of a

group like this. It originally

emerged across Iraq and Syria and

emerged as a terrorist movement,

which is how we encounter it in the

West. So we have pushed back one

aspect of it, but it's really gone