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This is East Midlands Today with Kylie Pentelow and Dominic Heale.

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Our top story tonight, we reveal just how determined the power

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station plotters were. The armoury of an Eco protest, how climate

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activists equip themselves to pull the plug on our biggest power

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station. Also tonight, the man who fought

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off an attack by double killer Andrew Dawson. Then his other arm

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came round me in a Nelson. I stood up after that and I pulled him off

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me, and I said get out of my flat. Plus, bunking off - more parents

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are taken to court for letting their children play truant.

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And advice for would-be authors from a man who's sold 50 million

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Read, read now! Try and read 10,000 Good evening, welcome to

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Wednesday's programme. First tonight, an exclusive interview

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with Nottinghamshire police about the undercover cop affair.

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Yesterday, 20 climate change protesters planning to shut down

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Ratcliffe Power Station had their convictions overturned, because

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secret tapes weren't produced at their trial. Tonight, police

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explain why they pounced on protesters before the demo even

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took place and deny holding back crucial evidence in the case. Our

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home affairs correspondent Jeremy You only appreciate the scale of

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what was being planned at Ratcliffe when you see all this equipment

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that was seized by the police. This metal barricade's one of a

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staggering 25,000 items of evidence. And there were 80 climbing

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harnesses along with locks and power tools. The protesters were

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split into colour-coded teams and issued with untraceable mobile

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phones. It was planned with military precision. These tubes are

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designed for protesters to lock them souls together. And a portable

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ledge and look at this, a big supply of nappies, as well as these

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menu cards with enough meals to last them for a whole week. With

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the extent of what we have seen in terms of disruption, injuries

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caused and other demonstrations, to allow it to go ahead with the

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consequences for health and safety, I am not sure it would have done.

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One of the most experienced climbers was really a Metropolitan

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Police spy. But today the Appeal Court heard that Mark Kennedy

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supported the plan enthusiastically and was arguably an "agent

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provocateur". And the Lord Chief Justice said 20

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activists were victims of a miscarriage of justice. Because

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they weren't told about secret recordings made by PC Kennedy, that

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could have helped their defence. Obviously Mark Kennedy was a

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authorised by somebody and people should ask to his bosses were and

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what decisions they made for. And questions too about who decided

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to withhold Mark Kennedy's recordings. Nottinghamshire Police

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have been in the firing line, but tonight they've come out fighting.

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I know the prosecution were aware of the undercover officer and very

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clearly disclose the information about the undercover officer and

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the sensitive material that was a product of that to the prosecution.

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Now that's being investigated as part of seven inquiries stemming

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from the handling of the power station plot. Inquiries that are

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asking fundamental questions about the policing and prosecution of

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protests and the whole the system Jeremy Ball is at Ratcliffe Power

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Station. This has been an extraordinary saga. Today's

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judgement, what's being said about that? A lot of heat on the Crown

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Prosecution Service tonight, they are not commenting because of other

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issues but the criticism was scathing in this, they said the

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prosecution ignored elementary problems and that failure to

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disclose Mark Kennedy's tapes was significant because the activists

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could have used the claim for entrapment or support their defence

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that the action was necessary and justified. And they say something

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seriously went wrong. What happens now? The National Review of

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undercover policing is due out in a few weeks' time, several inquiries

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going on still into both Nottinghamshire Police and the

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Crown Prosecution Service. One of those, a disciplinary inquiry by

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the Crown Prosecution Service and the activists and deciding what

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they will do next. One told me that they might be entitled to

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compensation and they are desperate to find out how much taxpayers'

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money is being spent on this. But at the end of the day, while they

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didn't get the power station shut down, they definitely got their

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message across. Next tonight, the man who believes

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he narrowly avoided becoming a killer's third victim. Alan Cliff

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fought off his neighbour Andrew Dawson just hours after Dawson had

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murdered someone. Now he wants a face-to-face meeting with the

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killer who was told earlier this week that he'll spend the rest of

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his life in prison. From Derby, Ever since hearing that two of his

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neighbours had been stabbed to death last July, Alan Cliff has

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lived with the chilling memory of a close encounter with their killer.

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48-year-old Andrew Dawson had already served a life sentence for

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murder. He grabbed me around the shoulders, and then as he came up,

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his arm came up over my neck and then I felt his arm there on my

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throat. It was pressing on May and then his other arm came round and

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got be in a Nelson. I felt that, I got up and pulled him off me, pull

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them round and said get out of my flat, mate.

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Andrew Dawson, who lived in this flat, had already murdered two of

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his neighbours. 66-year-old Dave Matthews who lived here and 58-

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year-old Paul Hancock who lived above him. Alan Cliff who lives in

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the fourth of the flats wants to know if he was supposed to become

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Andrew Dawson's third victim. Knowing what I know now, was he

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going to go at me with the knives? Did I stop in in his tracks? That

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is what I want to ask him. So today he wrote to Dawson to say

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he wants to visit him in prison. want to ask him his intentions face

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to face. The same night he killed Paul, and then find out for myself,

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did you try to kill make or didn't you?

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He says he won't rest until he gets an answer.

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Conservative MPs have tackled David Cameron about the failed bid by

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Derby train-maker Bombardier to win a big Government contract. The

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decision to award the contract to a German firm instead will cost 1,400

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jobs in the city, many of them highly skilled. Let's get the

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latest from Westminster and our political editor, John Hess.

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After five hours of debate on phone hacking, the Prime Minister managed

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to find time to see a group of Derbyshire MPs, worried about the

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future of Bombardier, Britain's last train-maker. The Mid-

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Derbyshire MP Pauline Latham was Could David Cameron actually focus

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on Bombardier given all the attention of that marathon phone

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hacking debate? Yes, he did and I was surprised how well briefed he

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was considering he had been in the House of Commons for so long. He

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was very clear that he was a sting to everything we had to say. We had

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a very vigorous debate and discussion about exactly what we

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needed. We need orders for Bombardier. He was listening that

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only one week ago, he told MPs here that there was no other option, he

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could not visit that contract that went to Siemens. We put to him

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various things given to us by other people so he could look at those

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and not saying that he could turn it round but he is certainly going

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to look at it, as is Theresa Villiers so we are hoping there

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will be a small amount of comfort even if it is only bringing

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forward... You mentioned Theresa Villiers, the Transport Secretary.

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That was earlier and that was a cross-party delegation included the

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Derby Labour MPs. Was she able to give you a further bit of comfort?

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Yes, she was looking at all the contracts in the pipeline over the

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next few years. To see what can be brought forward, but Bombardier can

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actually have without it going to tender. And it is thought that it

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might be able to go back to an existing order. Something positive?

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Yes, and we have got to look to the future. We are disappointed and we

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would like it to chase but we have got to look to the Ford. -- look

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forward. Parliament begins recess tonight but Bombardier will not go

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away. You're watching East Midlands Today,

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still to come. All the sport including a report from Natalie

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who's in Stockholm with Sven. more commercial wind farms are

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being given approval, but is it with generating your own energy at

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home? I will be finding out later. And on a week that is a mixture of

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sunny spells and showers, hopefully some good news for the weekend, it

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is getting better! More towards the end of the programme.

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The number of Nottinghamshire police stations with enquiry

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counters open to the public could be cut by more than half. Senior

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officers say at the moment some smaller stations only get one

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visitor a day. Angelina Socci The public enquiry desk at this

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police station in Kirkby in Ashfield hasn't been used since

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last July. Now proposals have been put forward to close more than 20

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others. 12 police stations could also shut. The force needs to make

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big savings over the next four years and selling off some of its

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buildings would save more than �1.5 million. A police estate does not

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just happen over two years, it grows over decades. And our

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requirements are different and they were in the 1960s, 70s, 80s and 90s.

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Some forces have started to rationalise their estate. We have

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been doing things like improving our service, crime reduction but it

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is time now for us to rationalise our estate to meet the demands

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working now. Stapleford is one area that could lose its police station

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and see its officers relocated. don't know who uses it but it is a

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good thing to have in the town. don't use it now. It is not used

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enough. The police will start consulting with members of the

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public. A final decision is expected to be made later this year.

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Six horses and their troughs have been stolen from a paddock in

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Nottinghamshire. The animals are thought to have been taken sometime

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overnight on Friday 8th July from a field in Whinbush Lane in Calverton.

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Police are trying to find the owner of a red 4x4 that was seen towing a

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white horsebox around the time of the theft.

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The former leader of Derby City Council has appeared in court

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charged with assaulting his ex-wife. Conservative councillor Harvey

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Jennings, seen here in the dark suit, today had his case

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transferred from Derby to Nottingham Magistrates Court. He's

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alleged to have assaulted his ex- wife just days before this year's

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local elections when he retained his seat.

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Workers have been lobbying outside the offices of a company which

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finds work for people with disabilities. A recent report has

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recommended that Remploy factories be closed, with the loss of almost

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3,000 jobs across the country. Workers staged a protest outside

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the Remploy offices in Leicester this morning.

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Next tonight, the number of parents being prosecuted in part of the

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East Midlands because their children aren't going to school has

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nearly doubled in the last year. Some parents were fined �30, others

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were fined �1,000. Leicestershire County Council says it's a last

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Children enjoying the start of the summer holidays in Loughborough

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today. But for some pupils, even in term time, there are not in school.

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And in over 200 cases, poor attendant has led to parents being

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taken to court. We had a small number of families who do not take

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their children to school every day. They are missing school every day.

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How do we break the cycle? Unfortunately, we have to take them

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to court. Last year, Leicestershire County Council fined 226 parents

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whose children had persistently missed school. Year on year, that

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is a rise of 60%. The finals range from �30 up to �1,000. There are

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certain circumstances where it is unavoidable where they have to take

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the children out of school. I have taken my children out of school but

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I have always got permission. a bit strong, being fined. That is

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a lot of money. The a bit steep, that. Especially when schools can

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take days off when they want to. The council has particularly

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focused on reducing lack of attendance among 15 and 16-year-

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olds in the run-up to exams. have to take attendance seriously

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and this is a very serious message that we want to send to parents

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that we are there to work with them but when necessary, we will take a

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firm line in terms of taking cases to court. The message is clear - do

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the maths, go to school and get to lessons or your parents could be

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In childhood falling and hurting yourself can usually be fixed with

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a hug and a sticking plaster. But for the elderly it can be a lot

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more serious, and in the case of a broken hip, very painful. So here's

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some good news. The Leicester Royal Infirmary used to have some of the

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longest delays in the country for repairing fractured hips. Now it's

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been praised after more than two thirds of patients were operated on

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within 36 hours of a fall. Our health correspondent Rob Sissons

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On the mend - Joyce is putting her fall behind her but she'll never

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forget it. Her fractured hip was repaired within 24 hours of her

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going into Leicester's A&E unit. It's a dramatic turnaround for the

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hospital which used to have some of the longest waits. I heard a noise

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and I knew something nasty had happened.

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In Leicester only a quarter of hip fractures were operated on within

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48 hours in 2009/2010. Now it's 71% When you have a frail, all the

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person lying immobile in bed, the longer they are immobile, the

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higher the risk of other complications. Things like chest

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infections, blood clots, pressure sores, all these increase.

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This surgeon admits incentive payments from the Government had

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accelerated change. We have implemented hip fracture lists over

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weekends on Saturdays and Sundays to make sure that these patients

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get to theatre within 36 hours. These screws and wires should do

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the trick for Joyce. Right now, she just wants to get home. They are

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all lovely in here. But you want to go home? You always want to go home.

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The hospital says its progress is a start. They hope to get more

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patients seen quicker in the coming years for what is a costly serious

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This week we've been looking at wind turbines in the East Midlands.

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Today it's the turn of smaller windmills. Simon Ward has been to

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South Derbyshire to investigate if domestic turbines are worth the

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People have mixed feelings about large-scale wind turbines that can

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be up to 125 metres to the top of the blade but this wind turbine

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here in South Derbyshire is only 18 metres high. How much power can

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these generate? Kevin Field lives here with his

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family. Their wind turbine has been operating for more than five years.

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It cost them �13,000, plus they were given a �5,000 Government

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grant at the time it was installed. It is greatly important. Because if

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people can generate their own electricity, it is less of a burden

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on the environment from a production point of view,

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greenhouse gases and so forth. It is certainly a wise investment. If

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you are going to be in your house for so many years.

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Kevin estimates the turbine can generate about 60% of their

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electricity use. It varies during the year, but through the Feed-In

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Tariff, they get back around �200 per quarter by sending power back

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to the grid. Planning permission was granted with no problems here.

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Even smaller turbines may still need to be approved. Here in our

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under stairs covered, are the controllers for the wind turbine,

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we have got the power output which tells us what we are generating as

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it is coming in. It goes to a couple of inverter is whereby it

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gets fed back into the grid or used by ass. -- by us.

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Overall, Kevin Field says it's been worthwhile and they considering

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going a stage further and installing solar panels as well. We

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have got some breaking news before we continue. Police are trying to

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trace a man falling and assault in wood in Nottinghamshire. It took

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place in woodland near Third Avenue in Rainworth at about 4:20pm. The

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man who may have been acting suspiciously is described as white,

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aged 40 and between five foot seven inches and 5 ft 10. He was wearing

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sportswear and have a light ginger or blonde hair. People should phone

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Nottinghamshire see - which C I D. Will give you the number at the end

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of the show and more in the late bulletin.

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Still to come on tonight's programme, you may not know his

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face but his name is familiar to millions. Find out who this is

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getting an honorary degree in And now the sport.

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First, back to Sweden with Leicester City. The Foxes manager

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Sven-Goran Eriksson could have a whole new team's worth of players

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available by the end of the summer. That's according to the club's

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football director, Andew Neville. Leicester have already signed seven

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and they want more. Well, Neville, Eriksson and the club's new Thai

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owners have all been speaking to Natalie on the club's Scandinavian

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Tonight, Leicester City are in Austria as there pre-season tour

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continues but Sven-Goran Eriksson says Stockholm has been the perfect

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place to prepare for a memorable I have been in Sweden with teams

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before. The weather is usually good. If you do not enjoy a Stockholm in

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summertime, something is wrong because it is a bit of a city.

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-- a beautiful city. And if anybody thinks pre-seasons

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are like a holiday, think again. They have been working very hard,

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it is more-or-less every day, two sessions per day. This morning it

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is raining and then in the afternoon so it is not a holiday

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for the players. What was interesting is all key

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figures from the club are here, even for a low-key game. The

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management, players and owners, and they hope they're prepared to spend

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millions and want two players for every position. We need the squad

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really strong. Even if somebody is injured, we have somebody to

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replace them immediately. We tried to make the team ready for the

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season coming. Andrew Neville has been at the club

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for 13 years. Never has he known transfer activity like this. Names

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like Hargreaves, Heskey, Yakubu and Maynard linked with Leicester every

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day. I don't want individuals, I would rather finalise the deal and

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then announce it. But names mentioned include a lot of names we

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are looking at. The owners have now come in and they want to get to the

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Premier League as we do as players do as well. So Sven says goodbye to

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his home country and says it is likely that another player will be

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signing for the club by the end of In other news, Nottingham Forest

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have used their official website to insist that some reports of new

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signings are premature. Today, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink was

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reported to be the new first team coach and George Boateng to have

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signed a deal to play for Forest. The club says neither arrival is

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confirmed. Cricket now, and only two games to

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tell you about because Nottinghamshire's trip to Hampshire

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was rained out today. Derbyshire had a terrible start at

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Northampton but Ross Whiteley and Jonathan Clare have injected

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respectability into the total. Meanwhile James Taylor has been

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signalling to the England selectors again with a handsome century in

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the tour match with Sri Lanka. Solanki at a, not long before his

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call up. His face may not be familiar to

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many of us, but his words certainly are, to millions of readers

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worldwide. Lee Child writes thrillers about his hero, Jack

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Reacher. He's sold 50 million books so far. Today, Lee was at De

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Montfort University in Leicester to receive an honorary degree. He told

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James Roberson what it's like to know your books are selling at the

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Getting kitted out - it's all in a day's work for a rough, tough

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thriller writer. In fact, the robes were for the honorary Doctor of

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Letters that Lee Child was about to receive from De Montfort University.

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He's published 15 novels since 1997. The 16th is on its way, 50 million

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sold in all - apparently one every second. I sell one book a year, and

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that goes to the publisher and any publisher sells them around the

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world so I have to maintain that distance otherwise it would get too

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freaky. And today De Montfort University celebrated that. A real

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thrill, they are not going down the traditional academic route because

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I am far from that traditional, academic person but my books are

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widely read and I am engaged in the real world and that is what they

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are trying to connect with. Authors of the standing have to sign their

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works in industrial numbers. He once wore out a jacket elbow

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signing 14,000 books over 12 hours in a Chicago warehouse. I was

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sitting there and five people were sliding books under my arms, you

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think it is all created but there is a lot of stuff behind the scenes

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which nobody sees. Now the first Jack Reacher film's

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coming out. Reacher, who like Lee is six-foot-five, will be played by

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Tom Cruise... Famously not that tall. I am fine with it, Tom Cruise

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is a global movie star and my attitude is that if you're going to

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have a movie, have a big star and Tom Cruise is certainly that.

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As he received his degree, he reminded the students not to worry

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if they're uncertain what they want to do. I would say, don't right now,

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read, read now. Read 10,000 books You are looking at a man who was 40

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years old before he decided what he wanted to do. Thank you very much.

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The Nottingham actress, Samantha Morton, also honoured today by

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Nottingham Trent University so congratulations to her too. Must be

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I am sure you are in the running! We have had some widespread showers

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that there will be a few more heading down from the north during

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this evening. Their key to Michael Murray who sent in this picture of

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a lovely sunflower, hopefully trying to remind us of what some

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are used to be like! We have got quite a bit of cloud around at the

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moment and some nasty showers in the northern part of the county. We

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will see some of them working their weight south and then gradually

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become diminished. A minimum temperature tonight of 13 Celsius.

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Tomorrow morning, starting early on with dry at weather but showers

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forming throughout tomorrow and they will be quite slow moving. A

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bit more sunshine it in between the showers and daytime temperatures

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should reach a maximum of 19 Celsius. We have got a ridge of

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high pressure building as we get closer to the weekend, so at the

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moment it looks like Friday will be many dry, a few showers towards the

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south-east of the country so giving us a bit of a shower but mainly dry.

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Also Saturday as well, the ridge of high pressure holding on over this

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weekend said giving us a much better outlook for Saturday and by

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the time we get to Sunday, this temperatures also starting to

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increase as well. A decent day for A quick reminder of the breaking

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story, police are trying to trace a man in Nottinghamshire, it took

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place in Third Avenue, the man they are looking for his white, aged

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around 40 and wearing sportswear. Anyone with information should

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telephone the number at the bottom of the screen. Extension 805, 3133.

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We will have more details on our late bulletin. Also a special

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