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they've still got a long way to go. That's all from us. | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
And now the news for the East Midlands, I'm Dominic Heale, Good | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
evening. A council leader has defended the use of covert lie | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
detector tests on people claiming a council tax discount. Voice analysis | :00:24. | :00:30. | |
software has been used to monitor telephone calls as part of a | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
campaign by a private firm. It managed to recover almost ?3 million | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
for 11 councils. Mike O'Sullivan reports. The firm managed to recover | :00:37. | :00:44. | |
almost ?3 million for 11 councils. On the phone and under investigation | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
the lie detector software was used on telephone phone calls with people | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
claiming a 25% reduction in their council tax bills because they lived | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
alone. The calls were analysed by a private company working on behalf of | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
11 councils in Derby and Derbyshire. One council defended the | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
tactics. The people being monitored did not know about the lie detector | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
tests. It is perfectly legitimate. They were in told that enquiries | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
were being made about their benefit. They were we are the tests were | :01:23. | :01:30. | |
serious ones and they would need to have truthful answers. It helped to | :01:31. | :01:38. | |
claw back around ?3 million in fraudulent claims. There were mixed | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
views in Derby. I think that is right, I really do. There are a lot | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
of people that fraud in the system. It is really an infringement of your | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
pregnancy. If you are not a weed of it you should at least be given a | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
choice as to whether you want to be getting a lie detector test or not. | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
I do battle people were told they were having their ranters recorded | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
for the detection of fraud. The counsellor is no longer funding | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
Council to carry out similar investigations into fraud. Earlier I | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
spoke to Chaminda Jayanetti who carried out the research for the | :02:24. | :02:25. | |
Trade Union`funded campaign group, False Economy. I began by asking him | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
how widespread is the use of lie detectors by councils. I think it is | :02:30. | :02:39. | |
spreading. At the moment it is limited. In 2010 the government | :02:40. | :02:46. | |
piloted the use of these so`called lie detectors in a number of | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
councils and then decided there was no evidence they worked so the whole | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
thing went dead. What is happening is that different councils | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
periodically decide to review one of the companies that bed for those | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
contracts. When the wind that contract very often they will bring | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
in this lie detector software to use on one of the claimants. What is | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
wrong with the council using voice analysing technology? Because it | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
does not work, there is no evidence it is working, when it has been | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
tried and studied in the past it has been found to not work. Ike macro | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
the say it is a useful tool and not one would be prosecuted on the basis | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
of this evidence alone. The way this works is that it is supposedly and | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
allies in micro tremors and intonations in people's voices and | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
decides where there is a high`risk they are lying or a low risk that | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
they are lying. The trouble is that drawing a brazen conclusion on the | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
substance of so little is very confusing. Thank you very much. | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
Police say it's lucky that no one was injured when a gun was fired | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
several times in a city street. Bullets are known to have hit at | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
least two properties in Derby. Armed police were cold to the Normanton | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
area of the city after the incident which is believed to be a revenge | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
attack. They say over the last few days tensions have grown between two | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
groups from within the same community. A firearm has been used | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
and it has actually hit two buildings. It is extremely dangerous | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
what has happened in the early hours of the morning and we are very lucky | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
no`one has been injured. At the moment we have forensic officers | :04:45. | :04:46. | |
recovering the bullets so we can look at where the bullet has come | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
from and what type of weapon was used. The Catholic Church in the | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
East Midlands has stepped into the bitter row over where the remains | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
King Richard III should be placed. The Diocese says he should be | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
reburied in Leicester as soon as possible and says it's crazy the | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
dispute's gone on so long. Protesters in York say the King | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
should be taken there. Tomorrow the arguments will be considered at the | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
High Court in London. Simon Ward reports. Today, protesters in York, | :05:10. | :05:18. | |
including distant relatives of Richard cold for the bones of the | :05:19. | :05:25. | |
king to be taken off. Richard III was buried in Leicester after the | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
Battle was worth where he remained until he was discovered in September | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
2012. That is when the dispute began. The catholic dieses of | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
Nottingham, which also covers Leicester, says Richard was a | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
catholic and he should stay in Leicester. I think it is crazy that | :05:46. | :05:52. | |
the war of the Roses seems to be being fought again over an the | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
whereabouts of his body. I hope the result will be quick and speedy and | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
something which all the interested parties can abide by. Work is well | :06:04. | :06:12. | |
underway to the develop the area in front of Leicester Cathedral in | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
preparation for the planned return of the King. High Court judges will | :06:16. | :06:22. | |
start the two`day hearing to consider the arguments. Will it be | :06:23. | :06:30. | |
here, your, or even further? That's your news. So, it's goodbye from me, | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
but with your weather now, here's Kaye. Thank you. It has been a view | :06:35. | :06:42. | |
to full day today, some lovely sunshine this afternoon. We had to | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
wait a while to get that sunshine but we did get it. It is misty and | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
murky with quite a lot of fog around first thing but that should burn | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
away with brighter skies into the afternoon. Temperatures will be | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
close to freezing for a few spots right now. We will see cloud | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
increasing with some mist and fog forming towards the end of the | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
night. Some of the mist and fog will be quite dense with mist and fog | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
patches expected for rush`hour, a weather warning in force for that. | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
The cloud will break up during the morning with lots of lovely sunshine | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
coming through for the afternoon again. Eyes of 14 Celsius. That is | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
it from us, I will Friday but fog less of a problem | :07:33. | :07:33. | |
over the weekend. Good evening. Step outside in the | :07:34. | :07:43. | |
morning and it feels a bit fresh. Reassure yourself, it could be a lot | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
worse. Exactly a year ago it was extraordinarily cold and snowy. | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
These were some of the scenes. This march is very different. A very | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
pleasant in the sunshine, once the fog has cleared. The fog is | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
re-forming again right now. Nasty patches developing through the | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
night, becoming widespread across England and Wales. In the | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
north-west, rain across Scotland. Temperatures well below these | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
values. We have a yellow warning in force from the Met Office for fog. | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
Could be very difficult patches around and disruption is certainly | :08:23. | :08:23. |