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Good evening and welcome to BBC Look North. The headlines tonight:

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Accident numbers increase at 10% of speed camera sites across the

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Humber area. It suggests those cameras are not doing their job.

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Perversely, they are doing the opposite.

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The North East Lincolnshire college criticised for running struggling

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businesses. Why East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire

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makes the top ten when it comes to bizarre health and safety bans.

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Stupid. What is the point of it? takes the fun out of it because

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that is the purpose of that right. Are alive outside the theatre to

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witness what might be the largest gathering of scooters this city has

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seen in decades. A after today's fine conditions, we

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have some wet weather overnight and tomorrow. Join me for a few

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minutes' time -- joined me in a few minutes' time Fourie for forecast.

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-- for a full forecast. Some speed cameras are being used

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as cash cows and aren't doing their job, as a road safety

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All too often we hear about accidents and deaths on our roads.

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New figures show that accidents have increased 10% of camera sides

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across the Humber. The government hopes the information will help

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people hold the local councils to account. We will hear from a

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minister and a moment but first, the safety concerns raised by these

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two figures. All too often we hear about

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accidents and deaths on our roads. Cameras like these are supposed to

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be the answer. New figures contradict that. This camera is one

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of 89 set up by the Road Safety Partnership but today it has been

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revealed that at nine of their sights, accidents have actually

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increased since they were put in place. 80 cameras are doing their

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job and their use has been defended. Business, in any other industry you

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would be praised for it. Of the 10% we have got, the cameras have done

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their job. We need to see if there are other effective solutions that

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will reduce casualties. In the city where immobile camera is used,

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accidents have doubled and there is mixed views about its use. It stops

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people from speeding. They are a good idea where children can be. On

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roads like this, not really. Maybe people think the only downside is

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when people slowdown and then speed up. But they are a good. Most

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people say they are a nuisance. figures have been released to make

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sure these orange boxes are not being treated like cash machines

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and the Association of British drivers says money could be but has

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done. If the problem is to reduce casualties, this is throwing money

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at an inappropriate solutions because most excellence on a road

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are caused due to factors like inattention, lack of drive a

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judgment, or driver fatigue. There are more cost-effective means than

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speed cameras in getting drivers to slow down, such as vehicle

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activated signs. They will not be popular because they don't trust

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people Mailey. People are being encouraged to hold their local

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council to account if they feel money is being wasted, but at the

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moment, there are no plans to remove them.

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I've been speaking to the Road Safety Minister, Mike Penning, and

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he told me what the government hope to achieve by publishing

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information about individual speed cameras. What we want to do is have

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honesty. We won the motorist to understand what the cameras are

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doing and to make sure cameras are preventing accidents and continue

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to do so where the local camera partnerships and want that to take

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place. Also people need to lobby their representatives to change

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cash cows. So you accept they have been cash gals? I do accept that.

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Half of the local authorities have as well. Some do exactly what they

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are designed to do. We have now reduced accidents in some places

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because of cameras. In the Humberside area, nine camera sides

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have seen an increase in accidents, so does that suggest the cameras

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should be taken away because they are not working? Those cameras are

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not doing their job a but they are doing the opposite, and what I'd

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expect the camera partnership to do is actually find out why there has

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taken place and remove those cameras from that particular spot

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because they are not doing their job. They are not designed to raise

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money but reduce the amount of accidents on the road. So, you are

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saying to the Road Safety Partnership those nine cameras

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should go because they are cash cows? I am saying you must look

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carefully why those accents have increased. We have given them the

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autonomy and to money, and it is up to them to reduce casualty rates.

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Without publishing these figures, the public and motorist would never

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know whether those cameras would do their job. If local people have got

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the figures, they know now which cameras are working, can be asked

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for them to be removed? They should be working through their MP, and

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the local councillors, to say to the local camera partnership, these

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cameras aren't working. This is the evidence we have, and so what are

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you going to do about it? And they should lobby for other measures to

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reduce levels of accidents. A very interesting to talk to youth. Thank

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you. So what do you think about this? Should some of the speed

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cameras go? Let's have some of your thoughts on this. You can e-mail or

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Now, still on speed cameras, yesterday we revealed how drivers

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caught speeding in Lincolnshire could face even greater penalties

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if they refuse to say who was driving at the time of the offence.

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Lincolnshire Police claim more people are refusing to own up after

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being caught on camera. But one local company was fined over �2,000

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for failing to admit who was behind the wheel.

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Here's just a few of your responses: Tracey asks: "What about

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the right to remain silent? How can you be fined for not giving the

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name of the driver when we have Thank you very much indeed for all

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of those. In a moment, campaigners claim our

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two nearest children's heart surgery units can be saved, despite

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the results of a public A college in North East

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Lincolnshire has been criticised for investing public money in

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businesses that have lost hundreds of thousands of pounds. The Grimsby

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Institute says running the companies allowed students to gain

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valuable work experience but has now decided to close all but four

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of them. Tarah Welsh reports. The future of Floral Hall is

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uncertain. The gardens have been run by the local college for a

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decade, but now the Grimsby Institute is pulling out. And this

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isn't the only venture that the institute's letting go. The college

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has invested in several loss-making businesses in recent years. If you

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look at the golf club, in the last year they lost �100,000 which,

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seemingly, again, there is no reason why a college should be

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sustaining these kinds of commercial activities and losing

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this much money on it. The college bought the Laceby Manor golf club

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in 2007 but sold it earlier this year. Its accounts show it lost

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Humber Construction lost �450,000 over the same period. Image Studios,

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a production company, lost �139,000. Some companies did make a profit

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but the skills funding agency confirmed that the college

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disclosed a deficit of �469,000 last year but said it was in

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The former vice-principal of Franklin College says it is normal

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for colleges to set up businesses. With the fact colleges have run

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training restaurants, the prime purpose there is to provide a

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setting for the students that a training as caterers, not to make a

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profit. We asked the college for an interview and they declined. But we

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did receive a statement. The new principal, Sue Middlehurst, said

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the college generated almost �12 million of revenue last year and

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has good financial reserves for projects like its new University

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Centre. It said a review concluded that some of its companies should

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close as they no longer added value to the Group's strategic goals. As

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of August, they only have four businesses. Three of which are

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profitable. I am delighted they have got the focus back on to

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learning and teaching, and making sure that the quality of the

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operation is beyond doubt. But some will still ask what the focus had

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been in the past. Rail passengers expense destruction today because

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of industrial action. All-First Trans Pennine services were

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cancelled. The train drivers' union is in dispute with the company on

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pay. Another strike is going to take place on Friday. Residents in

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Hedon say a new odour control unit being installed by Yorkshire Water

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is ten years too late. This afternoon, the company unveiled its

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multi-million pound plan to the public, after longstanding

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complaints about the smell from its Saltend water treatment works near

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Hull. There is always going to be some odour around, but we are very

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confident in our solution. We are investing �3.5 million but we

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believe strongly the solution will significantly reduce the odours.

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am sceptical. I realise they are putting money into this. But we

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won't know how effective that is until next year. I do think they

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are listening now and it has taken too long to get to this point. The

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question is, will it work for? Yorkshire's nearest children's

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heart surgery unit looks more likely to face closure, after being

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voted among the least popular options in a public consultation.

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The NHS is looking to keep just six specialist centres open across

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England. Lincolnshire's closest unit in Leicester faired better in

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the poll but campaigners say they'll carry on fighting to keep

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both units open, as Anne-Marie Tasker reports.

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Three-year-old Harvey is now fighting fit after an operation to

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fix a hole in his heart. He had surgery in Leeds in February but

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his family say it would have been much harder if they'd had to travel

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further from their home near Hull. As parents, you are torn between

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your sick child in hospital having heart -- life-saving heart surgery

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and other trout that means you. For somebody to bring him to visit us

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meant everything. Have you been in Newcastle, would it have been

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difficult? Yes. Cost wise, time- wise. Becki has spent months

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fighting the plans to move heart services away from Leeds. After the

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NHS said it would be best to pool surgical expertise in fewer centres,

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it's asked the public and hospitals where those centres should be. The

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consultation received more than 75,000 responses. They showed most

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individuals want to see six centres including Leicester. But most of

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the organisations polled wanted six that don't include either Leeds or

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Leicester. But doctors at Leeds General Infirmary say the way it

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was presented in the poll was weighted against them. The fact we

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were only in one out of four options meant we were always going

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to be disadvantaged, and we felt we should have been in more than one

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in four options. We are not disheartened, we know it is right

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for the patients and for the people in Yorkshire and Humber for the

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service to remain in Leeds. It is people -- And people in

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Lincolnshire think it's right their nearest centre in Leicester stays

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open, too. They feel protest rallies have paid off with patients

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ranking it among the most popular in the poll. Are you can improve

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quality and services at hospital, but you cannot move it so easily,

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so we believe where it is is very important. Families like Becki's

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won't know the NHS's final decision until the end of the year. And

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despite today's report, she says And of course that is a story we

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will continue to fall. Still ahead tonight: In the top ten - our

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councils are making the list on the governments most bizarre safety

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bans. The first generation of adolescents

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to be swiftly mobile does not have to travel far to find trouble.

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how one of the country's first youth cultures is living on in Hull.

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If you have a picture you are proud of send it in. This photo was taken

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when they were building a new Amusement Arcade in Skegness.

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Another picture tomorrow night. A rare treat tonight, as Keighley

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Donovan is with us. Did you know you were in the Grimsby Evening

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Telegraph last night? I did not. dad said be the article. Bets are

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being taken on who Jennifer Lopez's next boyfriend will be. Barry asked

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if you would be! Prince Harry's odds are 200-1. Viewers are 5000 to

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There is a yellow warning in place for rain. Rain could be headed it -

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- very heavy tonight. We have had good weather today but tomorrow it

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will go downhill. The pressure charts are still very unsettled and

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things should improve over the Bank Holiday weekend. You can see how

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cloud has increased through the afternoon and it is now beginning

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to produce one or two showers. Those will push away this evening

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and cloud will thicken the with outbreaks of rain spreading

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northwards. Some of this will be a very heavy and thundery. The sun

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will rise in the morning at at 5:58. Some heavy and thundery rain in

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places but it will improve slowly. But the rain will become more

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showery and he's northwards. Not too bad on Friday. Today, up to 22

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Celsius. Because of the wet start tomorrow, temperatures will

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struggle. As I mentioned earlier, still fairly unsettled on Friday.

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Showers and longer spells of rain but the Bank Holiday weekend looks

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promising. 5000 to one, I can't believe that! You can go off people.

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Dodgems driven as they should be driven. Not something you'll have

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seen at Butlins in Skegness where for years now, you've not been

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allowed to deliberately bump fellow drivers. Today, that policy made it

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onto a list of bizarre bans where the government says health and

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safety law has been wrongly used to restrict activities. Also on the

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list, a bylaw limiting kite flying on East Yorkshire's beaches. Phil

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Connell reports on what's being called an epidemic of excuses.

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Rules and regulations and warnings over health and safety - they are a

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part of modern-day culture. For the government list of so-called

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lunatic rules - a ban on dodgem bumping has come out second. In

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Skegness, but once a band for their dodgems and doing what they do best.

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-- Butlins. It's no fun if you can't bump - that's the point of it.

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Butlins says there are no bumping policy allows even young drivers to

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experience the ride and safety. The rules have been described as

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rules have been described as stifling. We don't want people to

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come down and say it you breaking rules and regulations. If you want

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to fly you Kate, fly a kite, and if you want to play conkers, play

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conkers. Top of the list is Wimbledon, when during wet

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conditions this year, spectators were banned from Henman Hill. Here

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in East Yorkshire, health and safety rules imposed by the council

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have been welcome it. They are a number six on the hit list. Here,

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restrictions on Kate's have Government Ministers hot under the

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collar. The council says it is it bans on extreme sports like Kate

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suffering that are on the hit-list. There is no ban on flying kites in

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East Riding, and there never has been. Back on the dodgems, for one

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reporter it was a great day at the seaside. Politely unsafely avoiding

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as many people as possible. Just before we came on air I spoke

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to Luise Vassie from the Institution of Occupational Safety

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and Health and asked her what she made of it. We think it's great and

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the welcome the Minister's statement today. It reiterates

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something we have been saying for some time - that these stories are

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nothing to do with health and safety, and real health and safety

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is about looking after people's lives and health while the at work.

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This may be surprising to some coming from you. Are some of the

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rules unnecessary? I think they have little to do with health toot

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and safety and more to do with banning things. Health and safety

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is not about pointless paperwork or these bans. How have we got in this

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problem in this country? I think we have used that as an excuse to hide

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behind. When someone does not want to do something, perhaps because it

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is difficult and involves a little more time and effort, if we see

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health and safety as the reason for not doing it, people sit up and

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think, I might get sued. It creates a fear element which has really

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unnecessary. People should be having sports days and festivals

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and having fun. Do other countries have this over-zealous approach?

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think not. It is something we are suffering from. If you want to

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tackle it and take forward what the minister has said today, we need to

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overcome -- all become a little more risks savvy. Let's make sure

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the next generation we turnout and a little more savvy and risk

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intelligent. What needs to change then to allow

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genuine activities to take place and get away from this culture of

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blaming health and safety? You can contact us as usual.

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An RAF servicewoman from Lincolnshire has been speaking

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about becoming the first woman ever to complete an international

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endurance challenge. Flight Lieutenant Rachael Cadman ran, swam

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and cycled from London to Paris, in four days, one hour and 42 minutes.

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She ran 87 miles, swam 22 miles across the Channel, and then cycled

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the 181 miles to Paris. I feel so relieved to be here, and ecstatic

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to have done it. I am also shatter it, I cant wait for tomorrow when I

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don't have to do any exercise. Brilliant!

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A Lincolnshire market town which was given lottery money to revive

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rural life will feature tonight in a BBC One series. Caistor is one of

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six communities seen in Village SOS. Residents received a grant from the

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Big Lottery Fund to try and regenerate the town. They used the

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money to create an Arts and Heritage Centre. You can see that

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programme on BBC One at 8pm. It's a movement that started out

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life in the 1960s. It has not died out as a gathering in Hull tonight

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is proving. What is this in aid of? Have you ever seen so many scooters

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in one place. All sizes and shapes and colours, and we have all ladies

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here tonight is well. The UN and the old. They are here to get

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revved up tonight ahead of the opening night of the play of the

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movie Quadrophenia, which is the most iconic movie for any scooter

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rider, that really does appeal to all generations.

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The first generation of adolescents to be swiftly more well does not

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have to travel far to find trouble. The mode of transport for the Mods,

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the scooter. It was the decade when the teenager was born - or when you

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were identified by what you wore it and what you wrote. It's in the rat

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catcher been a cult classic film Quadrophenia. Orchid and! Dodd he

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looks smart! On a scooter! brings back many nostalgic memories

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and it is hope those memories come alive on stage tonight, as the

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screenplay of the film makes its stage premiere. I was at a Roger

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dotty gig which was leaflet did, and I soon as I saw that leaflet, I

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thought I was at the last Who get when they play Quadrophenia. It is

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an obsession that spans generations. I am told it don't mean a thing if

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it ain't got that blind, and despite certainly has the blink.

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You are the owner of the state and the organiser of this amazing

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gathering. Yes, I am. Why did he want to do this? This is for the

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opening night of Quadrophenia but what is it about it that appeals?

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We thought it was a fantastic opportunity to find all of this

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together on an area that we have a common interest in. Quadrophenia is

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such an iconic film and been so much to us, it is a great Prix

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runner for the Isle of Wight lark - - rally this weekend. The biggest

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weekend in the skittering calendar. You're here for the opening night

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of the play Quadrophenia, and we have an original cast member here

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this evening. Gary Cooper. It has become a cult movie. Did you think

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back then it would become like this? Not at the time. It was just

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three months of doing something you enjoy in being an actor in a movie.

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I did not think there would be all of this. You're still being stopped

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in the state, are in due? All the time, on the bus and so on. Thank

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you for coming along. It runs until Saturday, but there are only a few

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seats left. That is how popular it has been. Peter, you know more

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about this than me? For you could say that about lot.

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Let's get a recap of the national and regional headlines: The hunt is

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on for Colonel Gaddafi - Libyan rebels fight street to street with

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regime die-hard supporters in Tripoli.

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Failing to improve road safety - accident numbers increase at 10% of

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East Yorkshire and Northern Lincolnshire's speed camera sites.

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The Government says it is time to remove the cameras that are not

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doing their job. And tomorrow's weather - a wet

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morning with risk of heavy rain. Gradually clearing away in the

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afternoon. Maximum temperature of 19 Celsius. That's it from us

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