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Good evening. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to Thursday's programme.

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The headlines - campaigners claim there is little point in

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fundraising for research into cancer treatments as patients are

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denied new drugs. I can understand then people saying what's the point

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of him having the drug if he's going to - he's not able to do

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anything anyway and he's dying. But I'm not. Humber Bridge tolls could

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be halved, as a local council says it can take over the debt. The

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couple who met under a Vulcan bomber at Waddington, return to see

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it as they celebrate their golden wedding. It's that time of year.

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I'm live in Lincoln, where we are waiting for the Christmas light to

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be turned on. It will be fine for that. Join me for the rest of the

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Good evening. Campaigners claim there is little point in

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fundraising for cancer research if patients are denied new drugs. It

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comes on the day that the National Institute for Clinical Excellence

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has recommended that the NHS doesn't pay for a new breast cancer

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drug, which could prolong lives. Instead, it will be provided

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through a special cancer drugs fund, but only in certain areas. If for

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example you live in Scunthorpe you'll get it. If you live if

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Gainsborough you wouldn't. Mark Bannister looks fit and well.

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Terminal brain cancer could mean he'll be dead in months. He's been

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denied the drug Avastin, which could prolong his life. I should be

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having that drug now, while I'm quite fit and able. NICE, which

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provides independence guidance on promoting health that ruled the

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drug shouldn't be routinely prescribed. Today it has added

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Halaven saying: Yet, cancer patients like the Deans here have

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been denied no treatments at all, because they live in the Yorkshire

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and Humber area, where money's been made available from the cancer

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drugs fund. NICE, they are not being nice at all. It isn't fair

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and I believe that the people who say no to it haven't anyone in

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their families that really need it. More than 800 million is raised by

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cancer charities in the UK every year. Some of it in shops like this

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one in Goole. Hety, one of the volunteers, -- Hettie, one of the

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volunteers, says this is awful. Everyone should have a chance. It's

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not just the person concerned, it's the families. It hits the families

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so hard. While Mark is still fighting for his drugs, he fears

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time is fast running out. I can understand then people saying

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what's the point of him having the drug if he's dying, but I'm not. I

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can still play with my kids and play about. That's what hurts.

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Sorry. Joining me on this one is Professor Christopher Twelves, from

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cancer research's UK clinical centre in Leeds. Good evening to

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you. Good evening. Is it just unfair and hard to grasp why one

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person would get and one person wouldn't depending on where they

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live? What is your view? These sort of stories are heart-breaking,

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aren't they? I think we should be offering cancer patients the best

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possible drugs on a fair basis according to whether they would

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benefit from them, rather than by what we used to call the postcode

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lottery. I think we are hopefully moved away and we risk moving back

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into that unfair situation. There isn't a limitless pot of money,

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though, is there? Do you accept that some hard decisions have to be

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made and not everyone can have what they would like? Yes, I absolutely

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agree that we need to be clear that the treatments that we offer

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represent good value for money. In the case of the drug that has been

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mentioned today eribulin, we are particularly disappointed, because

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this is the fact drug that has been shown quite clearly to prolong

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survival in women with met static breast cancer, that is really quite

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advanced. As I say, we have for the first time a drug to prolong

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survival, so this is very disappointing. An article in The

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Lancet by 37 of your cancer colleagues, says there is

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insufficient evidence about the value of some drugs? I think it is

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perfectly fair and reasonable that we look at the value of the drugs.

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On the one hand, we deal with our cancer patients and we have a duty

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to them. On the other hand, we are taxpayers ourselves and clearly we

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want to see value for money across the board within the NHS. I think

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where we have eye drug which clearly improves survival,

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something which no other drug has done in this setting and especially

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where this is a drug that causes fewer side effects than many others,

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I think we would be keen that NICE look again at this decision,

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hopefully so the drug can be more widely and fairly available.

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Briefly, if there is a drug which does prolong life and it's

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available, regardless of cost, it should be available? Provided that

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evidence is clear that it prolongs life, provided we know which

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patients to use it on and the doctors are familiar with how to

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use it, yes, it should be widely and fairly available. Tre having to

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talk to you. Thank you. -- very interesting to talk to you. We

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would like to know your thoughts on In one moment, Nick talks for the

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first time after taking over at Hull City. Drivers using the Humber

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Bridge could be paying half the current toll charge if the latest

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proposal to buy the debt is accepted. North Lincolnshire

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council says it can find �100 million from various sources and

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that would see the charge for a single car journey reduced to �1.50.

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It's the third different proposal to be put to the Government, but

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the only one that would use public money. I don't think so, no. I

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think it's gone on long enough. They can wipe other debts off, but

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why not the debt of the bridge? think it would be a good idea, yes.

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It would help everyone on this side to travel over. I think it would

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help a lot of people, because especially with hospital. You have

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to get over and it's a lot of money. Just depends how much it would put

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our taxes up. I don't think there should be a debt. It's a bridge for

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the country. The whole country uses it. Why should we have to buy it

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when the whole country uses it? Joining me is Andrew Percy, the MP

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for Brigg and Goole. Think it's a good idea? I think it is. It's not

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only the proposal to use public money, because the Humber Bridge

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Board's proposal would have to be underwritten by the local

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authorities. The council have said they would use council reserves to

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part-fund this. Is it right that that money should be exposed in

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this way? It wouldn't, actually. They would look to partner with

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another council, possibly with private sector or bore row and

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council taxpayers wouldn't pay. The debt could be serviced in the same

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way it is at the moment. It will have come from council taxpayers?

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No, because the debt would be held by the council in the same way we

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are responsible for debt, but paid down by users of the bridge in the

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same way it is today. I could have a trip over from Hull at �1.50 and

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subs dieded by north Lincolnshire council? No, it wouldn't be

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subsidised. The debt would be held, but paid by people paying tolls.

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Exactly as happens at the moment. Why didn't or couldn't all four

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authorities come together and that would make it even easier? That

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would be a very good idea. That is part of the proposal. This is just

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an outline. We are still at the very early stage. What they've said

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is they would look to partner with another council, possibly all the

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local councils in the area. If the Government accepts this �100

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million, that means they'll still have to write-off 132 million as

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bad debt that will never happen? 230 million is what they would have

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to write-off and that is a big ask, given where we are with the state

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of the public finances, but what Government has said is that the

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status quo is not an option. All the meetings we have had and we

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have been pushing hard, we have explained to them that we are a

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low-wage economy, and this is damaging people's job prosecution

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pegts. It is damaging businesses -- prospects. It is damaging

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businesses and they seem to see that. They are not going to write

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off the debt? We'll know in a couple of weeks' time. All I can

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say is that the Government keeps saying the status quo is not an

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option. They accept there is a problem with the tolls and that is

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damaging the local economy and local people and that's why we

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should get behind any proposal that reduces the debt and toll. Thank

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you. Another one you might want to comment on, especially if you live

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More news now. There is a proposal to increase the toll on the Dunnham

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Bridge by 20%. The price would rise from 30 pence to 36 pence and vans

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would increase from 50 pence to 60 pence. The new fees are being

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discussed because of changes to legislation surrounding VAT charges.

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It's one thing after another. Increases everywhere and now this

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is up on the bridge, it's just a bit high. Plus, everything else in

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the country is going up. With fuel increases as well, it's just no end

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to it. Nuclear test veterans from east Yorkshire and Lincolnshire are

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among those affected by a Supreme Court case, which has ended this

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afternoon. The final decision is expected next month. William

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Middlemass from Skellingshorpe is one of thousands of ex-service

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personnel who say being exposed to radiation has led to serious health

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problems. The MoD disputes the claims, saying previous appeals

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have found their merits to be weak. The family have always been

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disrupted because I've always had stomach illnesses and been sick and

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had a throat operation. That was to enlarge the throat at the time, so

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I could swallow properly without any pain. Generally it's just gone

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on and on with various illnesses over the years. The RAF has lifted

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its ban on non-essential flying in tornado GR4s, which it imposed

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after the death of a Red Arrows pilot. Flight Lieutenant Sean

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Cunningham was killed after his ejector seat was activated whilst

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on the ground. The MoD grounded all non-essential flights by aircraft

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with similar ejector seats, which included the tornado. The ban has

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been lifted, but the suspension remains for the Hawk. Door staff

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from a Lincoln nightclub have told an inquest that they did not use

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excessive force before a man stopped breathing outside the venue.

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23-year-old William Pleaseance was removed from the Enengine Shed

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three years ago. -- Engine Shed three years ago. Bouncers told the

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Coroner's Court that they had used minimal force. On 3rd October 2008

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William Pleaseance went for a night out in Lincoln. After door staff

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accused him of fighting he was thrown out and destrained. He

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stopped breathing and three days later he died. Today, the bouncers

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on duty gave their version of doorman here and he said that Mr

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Pleaseance was kicking and trying to pumch everything. He said that

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him and the other doorman had restrained him, but they only used

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minute mam force. Shane Costello had told the inquest that William

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pleaseance it hit him on duty. Mr Pleaseance' father Richard asked

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him if he thought his son was OK whilst being held down. He said yes.

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Mr Pleaseance replied, "He wasn't OK. He was dying." The first

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policeman on the scene also gave evidence. He told the inquest he

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arrived at the convenient uniat around 1.30. He said the victim was

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lying face down, with his legs and feet crossed. He said there were

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five to certain doormen around him, but can't remember whether they

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were on top or next to him. He soon realised that Mr Pleaseance wasn't

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moving and called an many balance. He also told the coroner that

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William's sister had said they had taken ketamine and smoked cannabis

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that night. The verdict on how he The couple who met sir are not

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Vulcan Bomber celebrate their golden anniversary -- the couple

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who met on a Vulcan Bomber. Under Lincoln Christmas lights are

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Tonight's picture was taken by Victoria. She is 12. She went to

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see the seals on Sunday. Thank you for that. Evening, young man.

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I will wipe the smile off your face. This is folly. Somebody says, we

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laughed at seeing Peter last night. It was lovely to see that lovely,

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stuffed object and donated character together.

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Have these people got more time on their hands than is good for them?!

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The headlines is it will be mild and breezy. This extraordinary run

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of winds that has been with those looks set to continue. The weather

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fronts try and get in from the West, but keep getting knocked back from

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the high pressure. That will change, I think, as we head through the

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middle stages of next week. There is a change on the way. Right now,

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it is lovely for the lights switched on in Lincoln. If anything,

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overnight, the clearer skies will give way to more cloud. Possibly

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thickener for the odd spot of rain in the West. It looks like it will

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be a try, mild and breezy night. Temperatures around seven or eight.

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The sun will rise in the morning at 730 3am, setting at 3:59pm. -- 730

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3am. It is a dry day, quite cloudy at times, but the cloud should

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break up from time to time. There will be sunny breaks coming through.

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With that suddenly, it will feel mild. 13, possibly 14 degrees. It

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is four or five degrees above normal for the middle of November.

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Back to square one on Saturday, If we use limited character to do

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the forecast, we could save two minutes on the programme and his

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humiliation -- their knitted character.

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But to which you insult? Talk to myself! -- but who would

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you insult?' Hull City's new caretaker manager has been given

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the club's full backing, and told he'll have money to spend in the

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transfer market. Nick Barmby has been speaking today for the first

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time since his appointment. The former england international took

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over from Nigel Pearson, after Pearson left for Leicester City

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earlier this week. Barmby's first game in charge will be against

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Derby County on Saturday, and he says he's looking forward to being

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in charge. I am going to pick myself! No, I am not ruling myself

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out, but for the foreseeable future, definitely on the sidelines.

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knows the players and a squat. He - - he is Hull through and through.

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It is a long-term move. We do not want to be in a situation again

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where we dismantle a backroom team and a management team just if the

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manager chooses to leave. We wish him well.

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Plans for a new marina at Cherry Willingham near Lincoln have been

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deferred. The 220-berth development, which would give access to moorings

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from the river Witham, also includes a hotel and restaurant.

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Last night, West Lindsey District Council deferred the planning

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decision to give councillors time to visit the site.

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A teenager from Grimsby who was bullied by gangs just because she

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was epileptic says she's been given renewed freedom thanks to Children

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In Need. 13-year-old Paige Carson's attackers hit her to induce a

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Hello, I'm Paige, I am 13 years old. I suffer with epilepsy and people

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do not understand what it is. People bullied me. I did not know

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what to do when people made fun of me because I had to stay in a lot.

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People kept hitting me over the head to force me to have a fit.

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After all that, I started to come down here and I love it. I do not

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want to leave. We do arts and crafts, tenpin bowling, ice-skating,

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swimming... Being able to meet with friends and join in with activities

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independent of parents and carers raises self-esteem and confidence

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and the change and children and young people is immeasurable.

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changed my life. The friends I have now are very trusting and caring.

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The friends I used to have used to bully me. It has helped her to grow.

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It has given her a social life. She is around people she can get on

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with and she has a boyfriend. love this place like no other.

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you want to donate to this year's Children In Need, here are the

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Thank you for getting in touch about the latest unemployment

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figures. It's at its highest for a generation and Yorkshire and Humber

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region has been hit harder than anywhere else in the country. The

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government has blamed a large rise in unemployment here on the

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economic crisis sweeping the Eurozone. Lots of you have been

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A couple who originally met because of the Vulcan bomber have

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celebrated their golden wedding anniversary with a tour round the

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last one still flying. Helen and Tony Stafford both worked at RAF

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Waddington in Lincolnshire in the early 1960s when he gave her a tour

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of the aircraft. 50 years on they've been to relive the moment

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they met. Dan Johnson was there. A relationship forged in a hangar.

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50 years later, the Cold War bomb were still makes an impression. - -

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bomber. 50 years ago, they both served at RAF Waddington. He was

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charged with showing her the iconic plane. I did try to get out of it,

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but the sergeant said, no, it is your turn! I knew right away he was

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not very very keen. It was his body language. Not exactly love at first

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sight, then! But the relationship blossomed and, I year later, they

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were married. - - a year later. Now they're back to relive the moment

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they first met. It was the tool of retaliation in the event of a

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Russian missile attack, carrying nuclear weapons. It certainly was

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not designed for happy endings. But whilst it kept nations apart, it

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brought this couple together. actually have a lady and gentleman,

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Tony and Helen, who met having been given a tour around the aircraft.

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Congratulations, and we do have something for you. How does it

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compare, 50 years on? A much longer tour, for a start! A bit more

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complicated. - - comprehensive. You're sticking with the original

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tour guide, though? Oh, I think so! It is a bit late to change it!

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Visitors to Lincoln City Centre this evening are preparing for the

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switch on of the City's Christmas lights. As you'd expect for such an

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occasion, all the VIPs will be there, as is our own Vanessa Clarke.

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Vanessa, what's happening at the moment?

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Everyone here is in the Christmas mood. hundreds of people have

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turned out to see my Christmas lights being switched on. I spoke

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to Cannon and Ball earlier, who will be turning the lights on.

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a great time. It is Christmas time. Come and see the light, come and

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see the punter, get into the festive mood. We are all here to

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enjoy ourselves. -- seen a pantomime. If you love somebody

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this Christmas, just tell them. love you, Bobby! And a view, but

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they! -- I love you, Bobby. There has also been a quiet here. Cannon

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and Ball are shouting in the background. I have near enough done

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my Christmas shopping. I have a few bits left from my girlfriend, and a

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few bits for the kids. I have not started buying any presents yet. I

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should probably do that. It has not come fast enough. I cannot wait.

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The lights will be switched on at seven. BBC Lincolnshire and

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recording here live. You can hear that, and the bulletin at 8pm will

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show you the light. Christmas has started here.

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Thank you very much. A Lincolnshire plumber has celebrated entering the

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Guiness Book of Records with his super charged mobility scooter by

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beating two other strange vehicles in a race. Colin Furze from

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Stamford beat the world's fastest toilet, and the world's smallest

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roadworthy car with his record breaking mobility scooter. His

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vehicle is designed to travel at more than 70 miles an hour. I was

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worried at the start. One has all the little car, I thought it was

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quite quick. -- when I saw the little car. It is quite work to

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date. The I think it went a bit too fast. You could not make it up! If

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you have a story you think we should know about, sent me an e-

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mail. Let's get a recap of the national and regional headlines.

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Stephen Lawrence's best friend breaks down in tears as he tells

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the court about the fatal attack. Duwayne Brooks said he heard racist

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remarks before the brutal attack. Campaigners claim there's little

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point in fund raising for research into new cancer treatments as

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patients in our area are denied life saving drugs. Tomorrow's

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Thank you for the messages on the subject of drugs. Somebody said, I

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lost my wife recently to breast cancer and am left as a single

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