22/02/2012 Look North (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire)


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Good evening and welcome to BBC Look North. The headlines tonight

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A deal is struck for Lincolnshire's first privately built and run

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police station. There will be some job losses as a

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result of this contract, that is inevitable.

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A burial mix up - now there's official confirmation of the

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identity of the body in Christopher Alder's grave.

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The councillor punished for insults on Twitter claims his official

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letters are now being censored. A vision for Lincolnshire's markets

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- hopes they'll become the home for new business.

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And to lead or not to lead? The debate over dogs running free in

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our parks. Spring temperatures end-February

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across much of our region tomorrow, It's been described as a

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revolutionary deal that will transform policing in Lincolnshire.

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A �200 million contract has been signed between Lincolnshire Police

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and the world's biggest security company - G4S. Hundreds of back-

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office staff will transfer to G4S, and the company will build and run

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a massive new police station. While chief officers say millions of

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pounds will be saved, unions fear immediate job losses. Phil Connell

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It has been described as the most radical change in policing for more

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than a century. It is police stations here in Lincolnshire that

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will see the first changes. The deal signed today will see the

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private security firm G4S work in partnership with Lincolnshire

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police. As part of a deal, they will build a privately run custody

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suite and police station in Lincoln. They will also take charge of 540

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of the force's civilian workers. There are no guarantees of job

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security, though. Unfortunately there will be job losses as a

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result of this contract, that is inevitable.

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They move will see changes for the force's so-called backroom staff,

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people like Pat Clifford, who works on reception at headquarters.

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Here in the control room, though, it is these backroom workers on

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whom frontline policing often relies. Tonight there are concerns

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that by privatising these jobs standards across Lincolnshire could

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begin to fall. I think the biggest concern is that both parties have

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not done their homework and it will be an almighty upheaval to start

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with. We have been promised a soft landing - let's hope that happens.

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I did like to think of it as evolutionary rather than

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revolutionary, but it is revolutionary too many people.

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can you guarantee that standards will be maintained? G4S can do the

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job for us, they can do it differently from the way we have

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done it, more cheaply, what choice is there? G4S will be paid 200

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million for a service that presently costs 228 million. The

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changes in savings should not be noticed by the public, do it says.

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It would concern me, it would be the thin end of the wedge. If that

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is backroom jobs, I would have thought it would be a good idea.

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The privatisation of these services will take two years to implement. A

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dangerous experiment, or an essential modernisation? Other

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forces will be watching closely. The contract signed today between

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Lincolnshire police and G4S is the biggest for any British police

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force. The contract signed today between Lincolnshire Police and G4S

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is the biggest for any British police force. The contract is also

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the first of its kind to privatise such a large range of police work.

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Anne-Marie Tasker looks at the record of the world's biggest

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security firm. Who are? -- who are G4S? The

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Who are? -- who are G4S? The company is the largest employer

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listed on the London Stock Exchange, with more than 600,000 employees

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working at 125 different locations. In 2010, its turnover was more than

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�7 billion, and operating profit was more than 400 million. G4S,

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previously known as Group 4 was not without problems previously working

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within the justice system. In 1993, a prisoner died while being

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transported to a remand prison near Hull. In 1997 the company was

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criticised for transferring prisoners between vans at a petrol

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station. In 2001, a prisoner escaped after an accident involving

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a security van, one of a list of escapes after it took

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responsibility for prisoner escorts. But G4S is not the only company to

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take over custody services. Reliance also has more than 4020

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custody officers. The think-tank, policy exchange, says the

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Lincolnshire deal is the most Lincolnshire deal is the most

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ambitious yet by far. The benefit to Lincolnshire is that

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there is a saving up front which they can plug into their budgets. I

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think it will be interesting to see over the next ten years how this

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plays out. I think the jury is still out on whether it will be a

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success, and I think a lot of chief constables will be looking on to

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see how well company might perform. If around 10 other police forces

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are said to be interested in following Lincolnshire's lead, so

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this could be the first of many deals.

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Earlier I spoke to the Government's policing minister, Nick Herbert,

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and I asked him if the deal was the future of policing.

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This will save the police forced �28 million, which will help

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protect police officer numbers, which will mean 90 % -- 97 % of

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police officers will be on the front line, it will deliver a new

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police station and deliver the backroom functions more efficiently.

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What is not to like about this? will also deliver job losses, G4S

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warned of job losses in the move over, that is part of the deal.

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what matters is that we have the best possible policing in

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Lincolnshire, that we are protecting frontline policing

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services, and I think the public are not concerned about the

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backroom functions, they want them to be done as efficiently as

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possible, and they want to make sure that police officers are used

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for a frontline roles. That is what this will enable. Those people who

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work in the backroom would be very concerned. Lincolnshire police have

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gone down this route to save money. The chief constable has repeatedly

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asked the Government for more resources. Have you not forced him

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into this? Every chief constable of course once more resources, but we

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have good deal with the deficit and save money. Every force is in that

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position. This is an innovative policy that will protect at the

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front line, police officers will be used for the job I think the public

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want them to be used and, out there on the front line. Above all, I

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think it will produce a better service with innovation which will

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enable the police force to fight crime. I think it is an important

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step forward. Final question Das if you work for Lincolnshire Police is

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today a good day to celebrate, or what? I think it is a good

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announcement for the people in Lincolnshire. It is about mine --

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maximising the use of police officers to be kept on the front

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line, making the back office functions efficient, delivering a

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new police station a �28 million of savings that will protect police

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officer numbers. Thank you very much in the aid.

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-- indeed. We would like your thoughts on the story.

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If it is claimed, as in Lancashire, billions of pounds could be saved

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and frontline policing maintained. and frontline policing maintained.

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If you want to get in touch with us, The first tweet of the evening is

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in from the Chief Constable of Lincolnshire police. He says, the

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alternative was more jobs lost, less to invest in improving the

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service. We look forward to hearing from you.

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In a moment All for a good cause - Hull's

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wheelchair basketball team show their support for sport relief.

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In the last hour, police have confirmed the body exhumed from a

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grave in Hull last night is that of Grace Kamara. It had been in the

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city's Northern Cemetery for more than a decade. Mrs Kamara, who was

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77, had been buried by mistake in place of Christopher Alder, a 37-

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year-old former paratrooper from Hull who died in police custody.

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His body was found in a mortuary last November, prompting a major

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police investigation and an outcry from his family. Vicky Johnson's

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report contains flash photography from the start.

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It was just before 6am this morning when a Hirst left the cemetery.

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Flowers and a new coffin were arranged by the council to ensure

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the body thought to be Grace Kamara's was transported with

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dignity and respect. The exhibition over, dental records were the key

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to confirming the identity of the remains. It is a recognised

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international standard of identification we will be using in

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this case. At five the TPN, the police confirmed Grace Kamara had

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been buried by mistake in the grave of Christopher Alder. The 37-year-

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old former paratrooper died in police custody in 1998, and his

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funeral was held two years later. The next up was only discovered

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last November, when Grace Kamara's family and friends carried --

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gathered for her funeral and a body could not be found. The mistake has

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proved devastating for the family. It has come hard to resolve.

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We thought we had done what we could for her, and what has

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happened, she is not with her uncle. We last night, or La's ashes were

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put on Christopher's grave in a private ceremony. His body was

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finally laid to rest two weeks ago. The tent over the grave will remain

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in place until it is confirmed whether the remains of Grace Kamara

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can be returned to what has been her final resting place of the last

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12 years. Plans for two large power stations

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in Yorkshire powered by straw and wood have been scrapped. Drax Power

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station wanted to build new plants at Selby and possibly near Hull. A

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third site at Immingham is still being discussed. Drax has blamed

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low government subsidies. You can get more detail on this story in

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Workers at four fashion shops in Hull and Scunthorpe are facing

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redundancy after high-street chain Peacocks was only partially bought

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out of administration. A deal was struck today to save more than 300

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shops across the country. But the Scunthorpe store and three of the

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four Hull sites will now close. A Conservative politician, who

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became embroiled in a row over comments made on Twitter, claims

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he's being censored by council bosses. John Fareham was suspended

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by Hull City Council after he branded protesters as retards. In

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his first interview since the controversy, Councillor Fareham has

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told BBC Look North he believes his letters to constituents are being

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vetted by officials. The city council denies the accusations. Our

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Political Editor, Tim Iredale, has the story.

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John Fareham has returned to political duties after being

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suspended as a councillor following controversial comments he made on

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the Internet. Now he is fighting a new battle, claiming that his post

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is being vetted and censored by unelected officials at Hull City

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Council. There has always been that option,

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if someone finds a letter is being dodgy, they can ticket to a manager

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and say ETA slanderous or something. At have a problem with every single

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ETA being referred as a matter of course.

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Don Ferrand is a former lord Mayor of Hull. Tensions were running high

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last year as councillors said the last year as councillors said the

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annual budget. Later he wrote on Twitter of...

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We have a number of stewards to work with people with learning

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work with people with learning Dyfed but -- learning difficult

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days in the community and another of those were in the gallery that

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day. They do not expect to hear that

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type of language from a counsellor. Your critics may argue that because

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of the controversy you have caused you are fair game for scrutiny. How

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do you respond to that? I think some of my critics may say that. I

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can't talk about the actual issues I am untroubled for because the law

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does not allow me to until the appeal, although there is an

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argument about whether I was acting as a counsellor at that time or not.

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In a statement, Hull City Council denies accusations that members'

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letters are being vetted. It says there are strict rules to prevent

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resources being used for political purposes, added that it is down to

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the council's monitoring officer to ensure all rules are being adhered

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But John Fareham is sticking to his guns and insists other councillors,

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too, are monitored for being off- The time is 17 minutes to seven.

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Still ahead tonight: Making Lincolnshire's markets the home of

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start-up businesses. And the debate over dog leads - we ask whether

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Keep your pictures coming in. Tonight's was taken by Keith Batty.

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Keith Batty was amazed at the coastal erosion over the last year

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at Tunstall near Withernsea. Thank you very much for that picture.

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Another one tomorrow night. Is it going to be a heat wave in Skegness

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tomorrow? You can get those little white legs

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out! Let's have a look at the headline - I am fairly confident

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that we will see temperatures in the exceptionally mild category,

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and that means around 15 or 16 Celsius, but one or two spots,

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perhaps Skegness, could be up to 17. Considering we had a minus 16 at

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Holbeach on Saturday the 11th, that is a 33 Celsius different, which is

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The air is coming in a warm track from the south of the Azores. Some

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sunny breaks in the cloud are expected. There is a lot of cloud

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on the satellite picture right now, and it has produced some patchy

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rain at times. All parts should become dry apart from the odd spot

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of drizzle. It is certainly going to be a mild night, with the that

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sub-tropical air. The sun will rise in the morning, around about 7.04.

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A lot of cloud around through Thursday. There will be some sunny

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breaks, especially towards the coast of East Yorkshire. Eastern

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parts of Lincolnshire will get the best temperatures. The average for

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this time of year is around eight Celsius, so it is well up on the

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average, with good old Skegness seeing 17 Celsius just about

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possible. The Further Outlook, patchy rain on Friday, but the

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Having had a few idle minutes this afternoon, I went to an Wikipedia,

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and someone was asking if you still have a weather Centre built for you

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as a child. The Government has recently been

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discussing making it easier for anyone to set up a market stall,

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and even the idea of a national market day every week. Now, in East

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Lindsey it's hoped entrepreneurs can be persuaded that setting up a

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stall is a good way of starting a business. A new plan is being

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announced this evening designed to improve markets in Mablethorpe,

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Horncastle, Spilsby and Louth - from where Simon Spark reports.

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Despite the wet weather, market day in Louth stayed fairly busy this

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morning, but with plenty of spaces for traders to fill. But for people

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like Alan, who runs his stall as his main income, there was a sense

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of unease. He knows East Lindsey Council plan to make changes to the

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market, but he'll will have to wait until a meeting this evening before

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he finds out what those changes are. There is a lot of uncertainty,

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because this is our future. We are quite prepared to work with the

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council to make things better for the market and encourage people,

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but I personally myself feel that the council had decided what they

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are going to do, and it is going to be a case of this is what will

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happen, without any real consultation. New plans will affect

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all four markets in the East Lindsey area which include

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Horncastle, Louth, Mablethorpe and Spilsby. The council wants to make

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them more popular and give new traders the chance to start up

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businesses. But although some disagree with the way the council's

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handled this, they do think change is needed. I think what we have got

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to see is more traders and more people, more people coming shopping.

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It will be interesting to see if they have taken on the findings of

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the Mary Portas high-street report. The Portas review, completed in

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December, suggested it should be made easier for anyone to set up a

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market stall and even suggested a national market day. But there's no

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indication these council changes are linked. But the council insists

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these are positive steps, and hope it'll improve the experience for

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Leanne Brown is in Louth where the council has unveiled its new vision

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for the four markets in East Lindsey. Leanne, what are they

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planning? Well, they basically want to change the way the markets are

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run. At the moment, you can only have one are to traders selling the

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same thing, so if you wanted to come on and sell handbags, if that

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item is already on sale, you can't. So they mostly want to relax this

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rule to encourage more be able to set up distils -- stalls. They hope

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to encourage entrepreneurs who cannot afford to set up a shop like

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the one behind me. They also want to change the way the stalls look

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so they have a more uniform feel, and they want to put some money and

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investment into advertising the market, and try different things

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like bringing in live street entertainment as well. Leanne,

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thank you. Back to our story last night about men not hugging their

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sons. The debate started when Lord Prescott said he regretted that he

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had never been able to hug his boys. Tat in Boston says "I have never

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been hugged by my parents. I can't wait to have kids so I can give

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them the love and affection I never Think you very much indeed for all

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A dress rehearsal for the Olympic Torch Relay will pass through a

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Lincolnshire town. The trial run will arrive in Stamford in April.

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It'll allow organisers to check everything is ready for the

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official relay in June. Sport Relief is just a month away,

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and organisers say East Yorkshire is proving a popular place to take

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part in the Sport Relief Mile. One team already hard in training are

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the Hull Stingers wheelchair basketball team. Here's Linsey

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Smith. What's in a race? Well, for Hull's

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wheelchair basketball team, the Stingers, it's a chance to put

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something back. By crossing the line on 25th March for Sport Relief,

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they'll be earning much-needed funds for vulnerable people around

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the UK. And the world. The money raised goes up to a lot of

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charities, which is brilliant. I have been involved in this for many

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years now, and it has changed my life. The Sport Relief will do

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brilliant things as far as raising funds. Five years on and the

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Stingers have gone from strength to strength. But spokes, sparks and

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basketballs cost money, and the team knows the difference Sport

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Relief can make. So come the Sport Relief mile, they'll be showing off

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their tricks to the rest of the runners, when the competition won't

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be about shooting hoops, but The Sport Relief Mile takes place

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on Sunday 25th March. If you want to take part, go to

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Scunthorpe United are back in the League One relegation zone. They

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lost to Walsall last night when they went down 1-0 after this goal

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Hull City bid to climb back into the play-off places when they meet

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Brighton tonight. You'll be able to hear the match live on BBC Radio

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Humberside as usual. Now, here's a question. Should dog owners be able

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to let their pets off the lead so they can run freely through public

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spaces? After complaints from some people, East Park in Hull is

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considering banning loose dogs, and one expert told us dogs should

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definitely be on a lead. Crispin Rolfe has the story.

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Born free, but should they be allowed to run free? Kay and

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Linda's dogs are well behaved, and come to Hull's East Park for a

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daily dose of fun. Sometimes off the lead, and sometimes on it, like

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when they come to the park's cafe for a sausage. But with complaints

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about loose dogs growing, the council's considering a park ban of

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leashless animals. It is the irresponsible few spore into for

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the rest of the people. Dogs on leads? We don't wanted to come to

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that. It is time that the council took responsibility and targeted

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the people causing the problems it's not penalise the people that

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are responsible. At the cafe, Margot allows as many as 35 dogs in

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on a weekend - with their owners, of course. But she'd like to see

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more control outside in the park. Obviously if we get dogs coming in

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off Leeds, it can lead to them wandering into the kitchen, and

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that could be a big problem for Oras. I actually think it is a good

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idea, because they will chase something that runs and could

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easily get themselves into difficulty, so we do need to have

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everybody safe, including dogs on leads. Dogs, though, are already

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excluded from children's play areas and some of our summertime beaches.

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So the question is, is this going too far? If you look on the

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internet nowadays, everything should be unleashed - children,

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parents, politicians, even journalists. But our dogs having

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too many restrictions put upon them. A code of conduct here reads,

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wooden sticks can lead to serious injury. Choose a throw Toyah wisely.

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Like dogs, codes of conduct abound. But the problem is not every owner

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reads them. So although there are calls to legislate, dog owners

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would prefer the council to let sleeping dogs lie.

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Another one you might have a comment on. The text and e-mail

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addresses are there: Let's get a recap of the national and regional

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headlines, A Sunday Times journalist is among dozens of

:25:35.:25:39.

civilians killed and wounded in the Syrian city of Homs. A deal is

:25:39.:25:41.

struck for Lincolnshire's first privately built and run police

:25:41.:25:44.

station. And tomorrow's weather: dry and cloudy with sunny breaks

:25:45.:25:47.

developing. Very mild, top temperatures around 16 degrees

:25:47.:25:57.
:25:57.:26:00.

Response coming in on the subject of the contract between

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Lincolnshire Police and G4 S. Lorraine says, I work for ligature

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police, and this contract is a good thing. -- I work for Lincolnshire

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police. And member of the civilian staff at Lincolnshire HQ says he

:26:16.:26:21.

finds it very demeaning that they are called back-office staff. It is

:26:21.:26:25.

also be worth noticing -- noting that the public will not to get a

:26:25.:26:31.

better deal, they were better service that costs less. And this

:26:31.:26:36.

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