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Good evening and welcome to BBC Look North for a special programme

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about the Humber Bridge. The headlines tonight... As tolls come

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down the Chancellor tells BBC Look North it will be a multi million

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pound boost to the local economy. This cut will boost the economy by

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about �250 million. As the changes are made, who will benefit most?

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We'll tell you what a survey for this programme suggests. Toll free

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for four years - the lessons from Scotland about what the future

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holds. The air those in Scotland who believes the Humber has much to

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learn from their experience. -- there are those. And we'll look at

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the controversial history of this much loved landmark. The sunniest

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march on record across parts of the region, but it is about to end.

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When the Humber Bridge opened it was supposed to bring together the

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North and South banks of the river. But for the last three decades the

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cost of crossing the bridge has been seen as a barrier to economic

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growth. Now after a long campaign, this weekend will see the bridge

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tolls finally come down, halved for cars and cuts for all. We're live

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tonight from a boat on the Humber to find out what that could mean

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for our economy. The Chancellor said exclusive interview said he

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believes the boost to businesses will be �250 million. We

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commissioned our own research which suggested an overwhelming 95% of

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people think this community will benefit from the cuts. 500 people

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were questioned. Most people said the main advantage would come from

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and for commuters. More from our political Editor... As dawn breaks

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over the Humber this has been the scene on countless mornings, with

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commuters meeting at this car park to try to save money on tolls.

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we meet every morning, share over the bridge which saves us about

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�400 a year. Over the Mersey tunnel, then in Wales, it seemed to be

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disproportionate here. Of the regular users questioned 55%

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suggest they will use the bridge more frequently when the tolls are

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reduced. In many ways, reducing the tolls is a gamble for the

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government. It will cost �115 million in taxpayers' money. The

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Chancellor believes the long-term impact on the regional economy will

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be huge. The evidence we have is that this cut will boost the local

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economy by around �250 million. So it is good for jobs, people looking

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for work, they will be able to find it on the other side of the river

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if they don't have in now. Kate uses the bridge most days to travel

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from her home in north Lincolnshire to the north bank where she works

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as a nail technician. It is a journey which costs and more than

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�100 a month in bridge tolls. book is �54. There are 20 tickets

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and a book. It will be so much better. I don't have to think I

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really have so many people in today, I will not break-even, then have to

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rearrange them. It will only be �3 a day instead of �6. Much better.

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Asked who will benefit the most 53% said commuters. Compared with 17%

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who believe the main beneficiaries will be those who use the bridge

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for leisure activities such as concerts and sport. 10% believe

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shoppers will benefit most. Recruitment consultants believe new

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job market will open up on both sides of the Humber. The reduction

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in the cost of the tolls will only appeal better to people looking for

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work and they will be prepared to travel further for that opportunity.

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Not everyone believes Lower Bridge tolls will bring widespread

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economic benefits. Jim runs a job club for the unemployed in north

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Lincolnshire. If you take the �15 a week reduction in paying the toll

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back and forward each day that is more than being eaten up by the

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rising cost in petrol and diesel. For people around the minimum wage

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they will not really see a significant advantage. We have had

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rising unemployment amongst young people, job losses, this will not

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be a panacea. A a thing sometimes East Yorkshire has been forgotten

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by government over the last couple of decades. I hope you will see a

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real commitment to East Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire with the

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Humber Bridge tolls, many politicians promise to cut them

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before, we actually have. It seems the majority of people believe the

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lower cost of crossing the Humber will reflect positively on the

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economic outlook in this part of Well, with me now is businesman

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Malcolm Scott who had had his own plan to buy the Bridge and bring

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down tolls. Good evening. Are you disappointed you're not the man?

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The idea was to remove the debt, reduce the tolls and have a radical

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change in the government's structure of the bridge and all

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those matters have been dealt with. In a way, you started the debate,

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you pushed it. I hope so. I just took on board would have been done

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before and many people from different places have been fighting

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to remove the tolls totally and when that was not possible, to get

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the best settlement. How happy are you with the solution we have?

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concerned it is not sustainable as far as I can see it. There is a

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future risk of the debt not being dealt with that properly. But what

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a great weekend. You think we could go back to where we are again in

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the future? We have to be so grateful. If we have bought one

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year ago we would be standing here on this boat in front of the bridge

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talking about the tolls coming down, it is a great day. Let's enjoy it!

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George Osborne brings 250 million will be a boost to local businesses,

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what impact do you think it will have? That is consistent with the

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Buchanan study that said if they came down to �1 rather than one per

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and 50 there would be 300 million a over the period. The major

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beneficiaries are the individuals enjoying the social side of using

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the bridge. Economics comes off the back of that. If you're an employee

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now travelling across the bridge every day, it cost to roughly

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�2,000 in gross income, that his heart. And haulage companies?

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have come down for them by one third, which is encouraging but it

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is unlikely to have an immediate impact. We need security that they

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will not increase over time that gives businesses confidence to

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invest in the region. Good news. Good to see you on board. Thank you.

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Let's have a quick reminder now of why prices are coming down.

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Historically the tolls have been high because of the large debt owed

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by the bridge. The government has cut that debt by �150 million. That

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leaves �182 million underwritten by the four local authorities around

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the bridge. However, it's enough for a cut that will see cars pay

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half, down to �1.50 per trip. Even better news for bikers - motorbikes

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will now travel for free. And for the heaviest lorries it's a cut

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from �20.30 to �12. Well, in Scotland they went one step further

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and abolished all tolls for bridge crossings. It's been free since

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2008. Again the argument was that scrapping tolls would boost the

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economy. So four years on has it worked? Our Business Correspondent

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Paul Murphy has been to the Forth Bridge near Edinburgh to find out.

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It has a similarity to its Humber cousin, the bridge also divides two

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distinct communities, urban Edinburgh from rural Fife. And it

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has also fuelled decades of political debate. Businessman Alan

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Russell lobbied to get tolls scrapped here four years ago but

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now says even toll abolition has not created an economic miracle.

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think we are talking about a small cost which is almost a token

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contribution to the cost of running a bridge. Reduce that cost, or take

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it away, then people are happy with that but does it change their

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travel patterns? No. The comparison between the bridges will always be

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difficult to make in terms of the cost of the tolls. It was only ever

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�1 to cross here before the tolls were abolished completely but there

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are those here who believe the Humber has much to learn from their

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experience. Down the road at Edinburgh University I met a former

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Yorkshire man who believes the economic benefits of reducing the

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Humber Bridge toll are being greatly exaggerated. They will have

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a marginal impact on the economic good performance of the area. If

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you want to improve the economy of the area you have to look at the

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constraints on the performance of that area and they are unlikely to

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be bridged toll -- bridge tolls. It is likely to be structural changes,

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the educational attainment of the training of the workforce,

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workforce quality. But the experience here suggests people

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have become more mobile, particularly for shopping and

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leisure. On the banks of the 4th, Paul runs a seafood restaurant and

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has views about the cutting of the tolls. I think it will encourage

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people more to use the bridge and go further afield because it will

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not be more expensive which in terms of the economy and the other

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side of the bridge will have an impact. Four years on from the top

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gutsier they say there is little evidence of net economic benefit

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but spending within the existing economy is much more mobile and the

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opportunity which comes from that freedom of movement is what the

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Well, Paul Murphy is back from Scotland and he's at the Bridge now.

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So from what you saw in Edinburgh who are the winners when tolls go

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down? The obvious winners are the regular users. We worked out that

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if you move back and forth every day of the week you save around

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�500 a year as a motorist. Apart from that, there are discretionary

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users who might travel more to restaurants and theatres on either

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side of the Humber. Will it be used the regional economy? The

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Chancellor certainly thinks so. That said, he is spending 150

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million of taxpayers' money in reducing the tolls so it will be

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extraordinary if he said anything else. -- would be extraordinary. On

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Monday the local economic partnership is announcing

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enterprise zones on both sides of the Humber offering huge tax breaks

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to business. That is part of the big strategy here. The reduction is

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not the silver bullet but when combined with other things going on

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it is hoped they will collectively Contact us to let us know what you

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think. What difference will toll We look forward to hearing from you.

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Still to come: Take all the wire and a rapid end to end, that would

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go around the world price. Are agreed to things you never knew

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about the Humber Bridge. And we will have the weather later.

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We have a treat tonight. A long- range forecast for April, and there

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are big changes in store. Join me in a few minutes.

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Let us get back to the studio for the rest of the news.

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Anglian Water says the current drought affecting allah region is

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the worst they have ever seen. The comments come after a two dry

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winters which have left reservoirs at low levels. Last week fish had

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to be moved from one river because of worries that be dry up. A

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hosepipe ban is expected to come into effect on Thursday. Students

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had been protesting about the decision to end A-level teaching

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and some GCSEs at the Grimsby Institute. More than 70 pupils are

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affected. The institute insists the change is in line with government

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back games. Students mean they will have to move schools and the travel

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costs will increase. It is five pts 70 per day return. A lot of people

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come from places where there is no regular service bus. There is no

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college bus, so it costs me �12 per day. It would not be possible for

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me. 5,000 litres of engine oil has been dumped across three locations

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in Lincolnshire. Three separate incidents took place across three

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days. The oil was fined across -- near the A46.

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And meat supplier says it has had a 10 % rise in sales over the past

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year. The company supplies products to supermarkets across the country.

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Although sales are up, the company says its profits are lower because

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it has had to reduce prices. High street and Hull, North East

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Lincolnshire, and West Lindsey are to have government cash spent on

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them. The money is from the High Street Innovation Fund. It is aimed

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at improving their shopping experience.

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In sport Hull FC can top Super League tonight if results go their

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way. First they have to defeat Bradford Bulls. They also have to

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hope Warrington failed to beat St Helens.

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Both are doing all K. -- both are doing OK. Nothing is one in Easter.

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It is 1st September. It is not impossible to win the Super League

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from outside the top two. Now back to the River Humber.

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Thank you. We are on the Rebecca M. It is a

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fantastic evening. The sun is just going down. This is the skipper. He

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has been working hard for the last few hours. It has been quite an

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ordeal. Let us have a look at what has happened behind the scenes.

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Are floating studio arrived at lunchtime. All of the Ket had to be

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loaded by hand. It is safety first, then we set sail. Tides on the

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Humber admit that we needed an early start. It was then a pleasant

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journey up the river. By 3pm we were in position. We were ready to

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checkout the technical to make sure it all worked.

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Although hard work is down to the technical team.

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They have all done a fantastic job. Crossing the river has always been

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an issue for as long as people have lived here. It took more than one

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century of campaigning to actually get the bridge built. There was a

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lot of rambling along the way. It has had its critics. Our reporter

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looks back at the controversial history.

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It was an engineering marvel when it was built, but bridging the

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Humber has always been tangled up in money troubles and politics.

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Before the bridge at two choices. The road round by Goole took a long

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time. You could use the ferry, but people were fed up with that too.

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The best way to cross the Humber is to slum it! From Victorian times

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local businessmen and politicians push for something better, but the

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money was not there. Bridge schemes, tunnel schemes, came and went, but

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Hull was losing out. We were out on a limb. It was to

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improve our communications. Abridge would be good for the area. The

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Labour government could see it might be good report.

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# Will they ever bridge a Humber? In 1966 transport minister Barbara

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Castle announced Abridge would go ahead.

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Some suspected help Labour win the seat.

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In fact it took another five years before a Tory government agreed to

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Geological problems, industrial disputes, strong winds, and

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occasional accident all cause delays. 1970s inflation was soaring,

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so also was the cost of the bridge. Not everyone was convinced it was

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worth it. There is no advantage in using the bridge. This bridge goes

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from nowhere to nowhere. It cost him nearly �90 million. There was

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still pride when it opened, but also frustration. The job and the

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bridge was as much about politics as it was about ferrying people

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across the water. The debt was impossible. Everybody recognises,

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but nobody did anything about it. 30 years of wrangling has finally

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led to a new deal. Even with the tolls down as the bridge still have

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Joining me now is the leader of Hull City Council, Stephen Brady.

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Good evening. What do you think tonight? It is very choppy!

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Coalition Government manage to do something that you did not do.

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have made request of the years. The prices coming down. This is great.

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This is a good thing. It is right for the area. How will it benefit

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the region? If we cannot unite the leaders across the south and the

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North! I thought you said you would not bring in politics! There is a

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first for everything. Of course there is.

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We want businesses working together for the interests of the region. We

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will certainly go for it. Problems for this region could be on the

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bridge. A of course they do. There are great opportunities coming in

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that such as wind energy. The future for our region is bright.

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bet you used to come across on the boat! There has never been girls!

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One girl. My mother was evacuated here before the war. We have got

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relatives across Humberside. As a family we have got connections on

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the other side of the river. I have memories of when the Humber Bridge

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opened. I was a shop steward at BP at the time. The Queen came to open

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the bridge and saw the wonders of the chemical industry at the same

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time. Despite his problems, and all the political wranglings, the

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Humber Bridge is still a huge engineering achievement. It is an

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iconic landmark. Here are some of the things that

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make this bridge so great. What more do we need to know about

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this landmark? I had been passed with the job of telling you as many

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facts as they can in the time it takes to drive across the bridge.

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Let us start with the fact that since it opened 158,770,658

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vehicles have crossed the bridge. Plus one!

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If an early ideas had gone ahead, it might have been a tunnel. That

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was suggested as the best initial option. There was a short-lived

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hover grasped service in the 1960s. First hour.

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All of that wider end to end would go around the world price.

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The top two towers are up slightly further apart than the other two

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towers. The bridge used to be the longest single span suspension

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bridge in the world. It lost that honour in 1997. It is now the 5th

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longest. It does still hold the world record

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for the greatest number of scooters in procession. 860 crossed in 2010.

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The bridge has been immortalised in words. Philip Larkin wrote a poem

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about it. North and south meet union manifest.

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It also starred in the 1985 in Only Fools And Horses Christmas Special

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and has had the fool top gear treatment. It is British design,

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British Engineering. Just time to tell you that it takes two minutes

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and 20 seconds to cross the bridge from their Hull toll booth to

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Barton foreshore. It did for us anyway.

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Things that you never knew. The wind is increasing now. The sun is

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wind is increasing now. The sun is going down. Here is the weather: It

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is a beautiful evening. We are coming to their end of an

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exceptionally dry and sunny March. Climate patterns are now shifting.

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April is looking very different. Much more unsettled. At times it

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will be colder. There could be some decent rainfall for the first time

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in a long time. Let us hope that happens because there are problems

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across our region. April is looking very different indeed.

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He's the sunshine on the foreshore. -- he's the sunshine.

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Cloud will increase from the north- A damp and grey end to the night.

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Saturday morning will be damp and overcast. The drizzle will die out

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through the first have of the morning. From the north east there

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should be a clearance coming in. A bright afternoon. Temperatures will

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But is at 12 degrees Celsius drop. -- that is a 12 degrees Celsius

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drop. Monday looks drive. Rainfall on

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Tuesday. As it clears it could turn wintery. That is the forecast.

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A reminder of our main stories. The Chancellor has told us that the

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reduction on the tolls on the Humber Bridge will be worth �250

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