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North. The headlines tonight: Months after a fall-out at the top.

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It seems to be a rather farcical process. Calls to speed-up the

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report into the management of Lincolnshire Police.

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A large rise in parents being fined for taking cheap holidays in

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term-time. I have had a letter saying I might be fined up to �240.

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How a view like this is down to the planning of a man known as England's

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greatest gardener. I will be back later in the

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Good evening. A former senior police officer has

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criticised the time its taking for a report on the future of

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Lincolnshire's Chief Constable to be completed. It's four months since an

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investigation started into the decision by the Police and Crime

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Commissioner, Alan Hardwick, to suspend his Chief Constable, Neil

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Rhodes. Gemma Dawson has been looking at why that report still

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hasn't been published. For months now, Lincolnshire's

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Police and Crime Commissioner and his Chief Constable have been

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waiting to hear the results of this investigation. The report was

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expected to be published two months ago. Neither Alan Hardwick or Neil

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Rhodes has been willing to speak to us about the length of time it's

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taking for this investigation to be concluded. But one former senior

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officer has told Look North, he's surprised it's taking so long.

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wouldn't have thought it was a particular complex investigation. I

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am surprised. This all began in February when Mr

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Rhodes was suspended by Alan Hardwick - "because of potential

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conduct matters." On March 14th, Mr Hardwick appointed the Chief

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Constable of Greater Manchester Police to investigate the

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suspension. But just two weeks later, Neil Rhodes went to a

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judicial review, which was successful, and he was reinstated as

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the force's temporary Chief Constable. Then in May, Alan

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Hardwick told the Home Affairs Select Committee the investigation

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should be complete within a month. spoke to said Peter yesterday. We

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are confident the matter, or the decision, that will come from his

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investigation will be with me within four weeks.

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It's business as usual for Lincolnshire Police. But nearly

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three months on, still no report. Chris Underwood-Frost used to be a

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member of the Lincolnshire Police Authority - the group that was

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replaced with the Police and Crime Commissioner. He says this wouldn't

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have happened under his watch. would have taken professional,

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outside information and got on with life. This is something we would not

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have allowed to carry on like this. In a statement, the group now

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responsible for scrutinising the actions of the Police and Crime

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positions within a few weeks time. We have a lot of weight in the

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senior officers, don't get me wrong. It is just that lack of continuity

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and clarity. Nobody has been able to give as any indication when this

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report will be published. So for now, Neil Rhodes continues as

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temporary Chief Constable, alongside the man who suspended him earlier

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this year. Earlier I spoke to Dr Julian

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Huppert, a member of the Home Affairs Select Committee, and asked

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him whether the delay was acceptable.

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No, I don't think it is. It is another element in what seems to be

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a farcical process. We had the suspension of the chief constable,

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then the legal case, then the reinstatement. We had the

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resignation of the chair. It is not a great advert for the commission,

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for the constabulary or the system. Neither the Greater Manchester

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police, who are writing the report, the police scrutiny committee in

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Lincolnshire can say it - - can say when it will be ready. Might it be

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more serious than we thought? hard to know. It does not seem like

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it should be such a big issue. One man decided to suspend one other

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man. It is hard to see how many details there would be. A High Court

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judge has already described it as perverse, anyway. It is incredibly

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strong language for a judge to use. It does seem like a farcical

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situation. I would have thought it would be in the best interest of the

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Commissioner and the constabulary for this to be dealt with, rather

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than hanging over. Can you see why there are claims that this is

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leading to instability in the Lincolnshire force? Absolutely. You

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have a chief constable who has been suspended then reinstated. You have

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a Commissioner that is being criticised. You have the chair of

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the panel who has resigned. It is not a good situation. I hope it will

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not affect the morale of police on the ground. Your committee said it

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will be investigating the police and Crown Commissioners before the end

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of the year. What do you think you will find in Lincolnshire? I don't

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want to prejudge. One thing that is clear, there are not the checks and

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balances. We have situations where there seemed to be inappropriate

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processes without proper analysis. We will be having a look at that. We

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mainly to update the legislation. Thank you very much.

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What do you think about this tonight? If you work for the force,

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or rely on the services of the force, what impact is the ongoing

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uncertainty of the last few months There's been a significant jobs

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boost for Northern Lincolnshire today with the news that a national

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firm is to make its new headquarters at the former Kimberly Clark site in

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Barton Upon Humber. Wren Kitchens - founded in East Yorkshire - says it

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will create up to 500 jobs in the town over the next five years.

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Caroline Bilton reports on the impact the investment could have in

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the town. An East Yorkshire company that's

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fast becoming one of the UK's biggest kitchen retailers, already

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owning plants in Howden and Scunthorpe, Wren, now plans to

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expand further. It's coming here to the former Kimberley Clark factory

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in Barton upon Humber. It as being one of the area's biggest employers

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for over 20 years. When Kimberly-Clark announced it would

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close operations here, it was a huge blow to Barton and the surrounding

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areas. The fact that a buyer has been found but if we soon for this

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massive site here is fantastic news. People living in this area are

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pleased. Janet Oxley is the mayor of Barton

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now and she was mayor when Kimberley clark first came to this town. She

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knows what impact a big company can have on a local economy like this

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and how significant today's announcement is. This is massive,

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absolutely massive. It is massive news for Barton and for the

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community. It is gone to massively increase the economy and Barton,

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massively improve things. Rent started out in business in 2009. It

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employs 1200 people in the UK, over half in the Humber region. This

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latest investment will see a further 500 jobs being created in Barton.

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They're planning to make this their headquarters, creating both

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manufacturing and customer service jobs. We have about 2000 people

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employed in North Lincolnshire. This is nearly a quarter of that

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workforce that will be able to take up these jobs. We will be able to

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get them qualified. There are plenty of people that need work, because

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there are not many opportunities. is good. There are a lot of people

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on the door. They won't be waiting long. It's

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hoped 100 of these new jobs will become available within the next six

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months. Scunthorpe Steelworks has won a

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60,000-tonne order from Saudi Arabia. The order for steel track

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will be made for a transport network in the Saudi desert. Tata Steel,

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which owns the factory, announced financial losses back in May.

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In a moment: A thirst for success. Even the physio's dog is backing

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Grimsby Town as they prepare for the Howard sent this in. Thank you very

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much for that. Another picture tomorrow. My favourite e-mail was

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from lives. My husband James watches every night to see Keeley Donovan.

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He likes to see what she will work. Sad.

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That is uncalled for examination mark he clearly has good taste.

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Tomorrow will start off a bit cloudy. It brightens up nicely. We

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should all see some sunshine. You can see on the pressure chart that

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will bring us some patchy rain. Behind it, temperatures might be a

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little bit down on today. It has been a pleasant day. We will see an

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increase in cloud. A few showers in the short-term, then outbreaks of

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rain and drizzle will spread eastwards overnight. It will be a

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mild night. Temperatures down to 14 or 15. Temperatures not as low as

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they were last night. It may be a cloudy start to the day. We could

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see the odd shower continuing through the day, but generally an

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improvement. We should have some smells of sunshine. Temperatures

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will reach around 2122 degrees. It is about average for the time of

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year. Through the weekend, Saturday is probably a better day. It will be

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and I am marking off the days. Until his Lordship returns. Do you

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think his dress sense is better than mine?

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Lincolnshire parents being fined if their children fail to attend

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school. Fines starting at �60 can be issued in cases of truancy or if

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parents want to go on holiday in term time. The county council says

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it's fair, but some claim that the system isn't targeting the real

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problem. Sharon Edwards has more. Mother of two client is looking

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forward to a holiday in Tunisia next June. She is not looking forward to

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the prospect of a fine for taking her children out of school. I have

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received a letter saying it is unauthorised and I may face a fine.

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In half-time, we would have had to pay �900 per child. To go when we

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had going in turn time, we only have to pay �500 for one child. Parents

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in Lincolnshire are being fined for allowing children to skip school.

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The county council says parents looking for a cheap holiday will be

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challenged by schools. We always take each family's case and decide

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whether they could authorise that. They are not keen to authorise if it

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is just cheap flights. If you want to take your children away during

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the holidays, it is likely to cost you a lot more. According to one

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website we looked at, and all-inclusive family break for four

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in Majorca is �1000 more expensive in August and it would be next

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month. The same is true for flights. We found a flight going from East

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Midlands to Corfu was nearly half price in September than it would be

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now. Persistent truancy is also driving up the figures. The council

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says families are offered support before fines are issued. When

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support does not work, other strategies have to be looked at.

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number of penalty notices issued to parents has more than doubled, from

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67 to 156. The rise coincides with a tougher stance ordered by

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government. The council insist that find I use proportionately, but many

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more parents are paying the price of their - - if their children do not

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attend school. Nick Raine is from the National

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Union of Teachers. I asked him if it was acceptable for parents to take

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their children out of school to go on holiday. You can we do not think

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it is a good idea for children to miss school at all, but we

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understand that sometimes it is inevitable. Do you agree with fining

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parents? No, we do not. We think taking money out of family budgets

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is not good for children and we do not think it is a solution. It is a

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cheap headline. Lincolnshire county council is not sympathetic to

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parents of them for cheap holidays. Have they got it wrong? I think

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individual schools try and do their best. We are faced with a situation

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where the government dictates the action of parents and teachers. We

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do have sympathy with parents who cannot afford holidays during normal

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holiday times. We think that is different from children who are

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persistently truancy. How do you tackle those who were persistent

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offenders? That needs to be tackled at a much earlier stage. It needs to

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be addressed by various agencies. Fining parents later on has not

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proved to be a solution. It is simply a headline. If you have lots

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of persistent offenders, then you have a much lesser number of those

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taking kicked out of school for a cheap holiday, can you understand

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why those parents feel annoyed? can understand why parents are

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angry. In these tough times, people want family holidays, and sometimes

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they can only afford to do it during term time. That is different from a

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situation where people allow children to miss large amounts of

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their education, which can be detrimental to their future. Thank

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you very much. What do you think? If you're quick

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with an email or text on this one, I'll have your thoughts before the

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end of the show. Is fining parents the right approach at all to

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tackling school absences? Have you been fined for taking your child out

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Thank you to everyone who got in touch with us about the Yorkshire

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MEP Godfrey Bloom's comments on foreign aid. Mr Bloom said he

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regretted any offence that was caused by his use of the phrase

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"bongo bongo land," but stood by his claim that too much government money

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 43 seconds

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is being spent on overseas aid. Non-league football's top

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competition The Football Conference begins on Saturday with both Lincoln

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City and Grimsby Town hoping to make their mark. Grimsby narrowly missed

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promotion last season whilst Lincoln fought a season-long battle against

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relegation. Simon Clark has more. On a clear and beautiful day, they

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are expecting brighter times ahead at Lincoln city. Under their latest

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manager, Gary Simpson, they have recruited heavily from far and wide

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this summer. Seven players live under the same roof. That is one way

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to get a team bonding. At one stage, I think there were three in one

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bedroom. I think they have sorted out now. I mean, you know, it is a

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big house. Seven, I think, of those. It has been good. Will their high

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spirits be enough for the Imps? achieve, you do need a good spine.

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Gary has been superb in the way he has gone about his business. It

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looks to have paid off. Last season was difficult for the Imps, until

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Simpson pulled them up. Neighbours Grimsby looked like they would be

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promoted but stumbled in the closing weeks. Last week was a struggle for

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Lincoln city, but there seemed to be a bounce in their step this time

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around. They seem capable of being better. What about their friends and

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rivals at Grimsby town? Remember, they never got promoted last season.

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Can they go one step further? Like Lincoln, there have recruited well,

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with a number of players joining. Last year, we lost in the play-offs.

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It is a big season for risk season. We have a smaller squad. I think

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they have deeper quality in it. If you look at the squad and compare

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it, it is an improvement. Like Grimsby physio Dave's Labrador, both

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teams have a thirst for success. The draw has been made for the

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second round. The Tigers have been drawn away to league one side Leyton

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Orient. It's been a fantastic summer so far

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and gardens everywhere have thrived. So tonight we're beginning a series

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looking at some of the most impressive and interesting gardens

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we have in this area. Jo Makel's been to Burghley House, near

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Stamford, where work is under way to restore an 18th century vision of

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its grounds. It is one of the country's greatest

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Elizabethan houses. And the grounds surrounding Burghley are also of

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historical significance designed by one of the most famous names in

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gardening, Lancelot Capability Brown. He is considered to be one of

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the country's greatest landscape gardeners, but his ideas were

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radical. He had such an impact and changed everybody's view of what

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surrounds a great house in the country. Brownlow, who was ninth

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Earl inherited in 1754. He employed Brown straightaway. He had a man

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called John Hames to draw every angle of the park in the house

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before Brown to make a record of what was here. Formal gardens were

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going out of fashion and labour was becoming expensive. Brown's redesign

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reduced the number of gardeners needed from 26 to ten. He did his

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normal thing and put in a park landscape. He took away the gardens,

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the reflecting ponds, the maze, the wilderness, all of that went. Sad in

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a way because they must have been fantastic gardens. Brown the vandal,

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or Brown the creator, depending on your view. This was a job which

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really built Brown's reputation. In the end he was here for 23 years and

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at �1,000 a year, that was an enormous 18th Century investment in

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his vision. I would have this vision of Mr Brown leaving, among a sea of

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mud, saplings growing, and Mr Brown leaving, saying, it will be good,

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your grandchildren will like it. That generation will never see the

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effect. The Capability Brown parkland is all about views and

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vistas. And giving tantalising glimpses of the house. This is one

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of the best views of Burghley House from the south. Look how it's framed

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between the trees. I think we have the most intact example of a

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Capability Brown parkland and I think you've only got to look at the

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landscape here to see, I think, he was a star, a bit of a legend,

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really. It is a really wonderful vista and view we have got here.

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While much is unchanged since Brown's day, work is now underway to

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restore one of the fuse which over the last century has become rather

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obscure. - - restore one of the reviews. It is at the bottom of

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almost like an amphitheatre. We're trying to get these views are.

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house, recently created a garden. It is formal, contrived. It is a darkly

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what he did not want. Yet his garden was equally design. It was driven by

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his vision. It looks brilliant there. You can

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see the second part of the service next week. We can have a recap of

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the headlines. The largest baby-boom sees the population growing

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Thanks for the responses on the subject of the late into the report

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of the suspension of the police chief constable. This was an

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anonymous. I work for Lincolnshire police and I can say the issues have

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had no impact whatsoever on officers on the ground. We continue to

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perform well and offer Lincolnshire a professional service. Alan says,

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it is nothing but a farce. We were also talking about whether parents

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should be fined for taking their children out of school to go on

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holiday. Andrea tweeted to say: "If they want to fine us for taking kids

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out of school we should have a say on when to have holidays." Andrew

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says, parent does not have a right to withhold education. Finally,

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Allen in Cleethorpes said, if teachers had four or five weeks

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instead of 14 per year, like everybody else, they might perhaps

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