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On the bright side, the days are That is something! That is all from

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us. Good evening to you. Thank your for

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joining u the headlines. Police criticised for naming people charged

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with drink driving before they go to court.

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We are 100% happy it is lawful to do so. It is. Noel practise to be able

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to name people after charge. This is what our public want to see.

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Killed trying to break up a New Year fight, tributes to this father of

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two from Hull. Any problems if you want to be

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cheered up in any way, just straight to Steve and he will sort you out.

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It is disgusting another human being could do that to someone. Red Arrows

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lined up, mark the opening of the 1965 season.

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50 years of display, how the Red Arrows will celebrate this year.

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And the secret of how Mrs Thatcher kept the perfect hair style even in

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a crisis. And the wetter looks unsettled, a spell of wet weather,

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becoming drier later. Join me later in the programme, I will have all

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the details. Good evening. 74 people who have

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been charged with drink`driving have been named and shamed by

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Lincolnshire police since the first of December.

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The force says that publishing names on the website and social media

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isn't about shaming people, but is designed as a deterrent to prevent

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accidents. However, the police have come in for criticism, over naming

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people before they have been found guilty in a court of law.

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The Christmas party season, for police forces across the UK, it is

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when their campaign against drink`driving reaches its height.

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But this year Lincolnshire police has courted controversy with a new

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tactic, it has named those charged with drink driving before they have

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been found guilty, in a court of law.

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We are 100% happy it is lawful to do so, it is normal practise to be able

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to name people after charge. We have not put lists like this out before,

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we will look at the results of what we are have done to analyse what

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difference it has made. We are happy at the moment this is contributing

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to road safety. It's a policy that has received a mixed importance from

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the public It is a good idea `` response. It is harsh if they have

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not been convicted to be naming people before they are. If they are

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innocent it will come out in court, won't it. Here on the Lincolnshire

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police website are the names of 74 people charged with drink driving

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over the Christmas period. While the police say that this is an important

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deterrent, others have questioned the morality of putting the names on

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here. Michael Pace is a Lincoln based solicitor who specialises in

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road traffic law It brings up the moral question of why are the police

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putting themselves in the position of a judge and naming people ahead

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of a court having decide they are guilty and dealt with them on that

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basis. Should they be doing this? Morally I don't think they should.

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The most cent national figures show that 280 people were killed in

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drink`drive related incidents in the space of a year. A rise of 17%

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compared to the previous year. And across the UK, more than 55,000

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drivers were convicted of drink`driving, leading to collisions

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like this one near Boston in 2011, that claimed a woman's life.

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Despite criticism from some quarters Lincolnshire police continue to

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defend their new policy, which they say is helping keep the County's

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roads safe. We will be asking for your thoughts

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in a ept omit, joining me to discuss this one is Nick Freeman who has

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defended motorists accused of drink`driving related incidents.

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People see it as unacceptable, why shouldn't they be named and shamed

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It is unacceptable. My problem is the timing of it. It is pre`empting

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guilt before it has been established. I have no difficulty

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with the people convicted named and shamed but at the time they are

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named, they are people who have alleged to have committed an

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offence, we have a presumption of innocence, it is one of the

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foundations of ourening lib legal system and it is important that

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remains in tact. At the moment the police seem to be taking the view

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that they are entitled, which they are, to name people, and undoubtedly

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some of those people will be acquitted. Why can't we wait, why

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don't the police promote the fact there will be a hall of shame and

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after Christmas when they are convicted, these people can be

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displayed in this haul of shame. That would have the same defernt

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effect. People said being named would make them think about the

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consequences of drink`drive, doesn't that show that the idea is a good

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one? I think, if you put to the public what I am suggesting to you,

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that there will be a gallery of shame for all those people

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convicted, I don't think in any way that dilutes the disincentive, the

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deterrent effect. It will achieve the same goal but do it while

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preserving that presumption of innocence, it is very important we

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don't move towards a police stai state. We don't allow the police to

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become judge and jury, there is a terrible stigma sobered with

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drink`driving, and it is correct that those people who are convicted

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are named and shamed but we don't want the ruin lives and humiliate

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them if they are innocent. If one of the drivers charged was almost four

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times over the limit, does that person not deserve to be named,

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regardless of anything else, that part is fact. We don't know whether

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it is fact or not. Do we know whether the machine was working

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correctly? You are making assumption theres, we are making dangerous

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assumptions because you are alleged to have committed an offence you are

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assumed to be guilty. In fact the reverse is true, if you are alleged

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to have committed an offence you are presumed to be innocent, when a

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court finds that you are guilty, at the appropriate Burdon of proof,

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that is time you should be named and shamed. It is an interesting thing.

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Should people be named and name shamed before they have appeared in

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court? What else would you like to see done to tackle the issues of

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drink`driving. 280 people killed in drink`driving related incident. Get

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in touch with we will have some of your thoughts

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on that one before we finish. Now in a moment on the programme.

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Pregnant women miss out as a Hospital Trust admits it can't

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afford to open a new maternity unit. He is going to be deeply missed, the

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words of Steve Herbert's work colleagues as they paid tribute to

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him today. He was a father of two, he was attacked on a Hull street on

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New Year's Day as he tried to break up a fight. He died later from his

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injury, the police who are investigating his murder say they

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have had a good response to the CCTV footage, which they released last

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night. Floral tributes now show where Steve Herbert was beaten, and

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left for dead on New Year's Day. The 34`year`old father of two was trying

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to be a peace keeper. Stepping in to stop a fight.

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His death has shocked those who knew him. His kids have lost a great guy.

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Whoever it is needs to come forward, they really do lost a great person.

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Today, at the bar where he worked as a chef, a collection for Steve's

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family. His colleagues told me of the man who was a larger than life

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character, whose death has left a huge void. Uncle Steve, that is what

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we called him. Understandingle Steve. He is going to be deeply

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missed. Any problems if you wanted to be cheered up in any way, just

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straight o to Steve and he will sortout out It is disgusting. I

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makes me ashamed to be from Hull, for something like that to happen,

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and it is just, it is disgusting that another human being could do

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that to someone. Especially to Steve.

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This CCTV shows Steve just moments before he was attacked. Police are

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keen to talk to these four people, who are believed to have picked up a

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taxi just moments later. After he was assaulted and left for dead on

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the ground, the group of four people ran off and flagged down a taxi,

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that was at the junction of Strand Close, what we want do is identify

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the taxi driver who picked them up. Floral tributes are growing here at

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the site where Steve was attacked. Messages to a gentle giant, a one of

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a kind. But what is clear from all of these messages, is that people

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are struggling to comprehend how this could have happened to such a

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kind man. They have lost their father on a night of celebration,

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but New Year for this family has turned into a nightmare.

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Caroline is at the scene of the attack tonight. What is the latest

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with this investigation? Peter, a 21`year`old man, a 22`year`old man,

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and a 23`year`old woman are currently being intervowed by

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detectives in connection with the murder of Steve Herbert. Police say

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that CCTV footage they released, they have had a huge response from

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the public on that, and that has been key in helping them identify

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those those people and help them to arrest them. But they have stressed

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to me tonight, they are still keen for people to come forward with any

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information, that may help them piece together the final moments of

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Steve's life, before his death. Steve's family want answers, and

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hopefully in time they will be able to make sense of what happened here.

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We will continue to follow that story.

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Some more news now in brief. The work of the Humber rescues services

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has been praised by the Hull West and Hessle MP Alan on Johnson, he

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thanked volunteer, he boarded the rescue vessel, for a short trip, on

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the choppy waters of the Humber today.

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Firefighters across East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire took part in

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further strike action the morning. The two hour walk out began at 6.30.

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It is the ninth time industrial action has been taken in a dispute

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over pensions. BBC Look North has learned that financial problems are

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behind the delay in opening a midwife`led birth unit in Hull. The

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hospital unit which would offer maternity care without doctors and

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cull stands was due to open a year ago. `` consultants. It has left

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some angry they can't have the birth they want.

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Sulman was born in hospital but what his mum really wanted was to use a

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midwife`led unit. She says she wanted a homely environment, with

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the safety of knowing doctors were nearby, and was shocked to find that

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wasn't available. I just thought it was par for the course an area that

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this large would have a midwife`led unit, but it seems to be put off,

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and postponed, and I was told July, then I was told August, then no

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news. She is not alone. Hannah is 24 weeks pregnant, she is angry there

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is no midwife`led you nit to give birth It is important I have the

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medical care I do need because of my pregnancy history, but I am allowed

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to just get on with what I need to do and have the home comforts round

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me. The midwife`led unit at castle hill hospital closed in 2011,

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because of concerns is about staffing levels. A unit to replace

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it was due to open in Hull last January.

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Some midwives who couldn't speak to me on camera have told me they

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haven't been told about the process o `` progress of the you nit here.

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The NHS Trust says it is committed to providing midwife`led births but

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finance has thread problems. It says it has to revise its ams bys for the

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unit. It hopes to launch the new unit during 2014. The Royal College

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of Midwives says the unit would have financial and health benefits.

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They are more likely to need less postnatal pain leaf, they are more

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likely to department to looking after and caring for their baby and

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breast`feeding in the postnatal period and less interventions for

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mums, obviously, equals less costs for organisations It is hoped the

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unit will open this year, but with costs and design to be finalised

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pregnant women like Hannah may find it is too late for them.

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You might want to comment on that. Maybe you are a mum to be hoping to

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give birth in the unite. Just a reminder of the contact numbers.

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Thank you for watching. Still ahead on the programme

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tonight. Grimsby Town look to upset a team three leagues higher in the

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FA Cup. And the secrets of this famous hair

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do made public after 30 years. Now if you have a picture you are

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proud of send it in. This is South Bay in Bridlington. That was taken

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by after Fred Button. Another picture on Monday.

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It is a lively moment. Let us get the details from Kay. Certainly is

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lively, as we go into the weekend, it is going to stay unsettled, those

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the winds won't be as strong, we will have spells of rain at time,

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once that clears we are looking at the risk of frost, so what is going

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on, you can see this waving front through tomorrow morning, that

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introduces a spell of wet weather, but the isobars are not tightly

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squeezed. Once again, wet and windy weather on Sunday. It will be to the

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end of the day. This evening it is windy, a strong and gusty

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south`westerly breeze blowing through a scattering of showers, not

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even will see one and they will largely die out overnight.

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Under clearer skies temperatures will be three or four, so we are

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looking at a up the of frost, sportsperson `` especially in more

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rural spots. The sun will rise at 18 minutes past eight. Setting again at

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five to four. Those are the high water tides. So, a cold and frosty

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start and watch out for icy stretches. It will be a fine start

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but we see clouds increasing, the band of rain comes from the south.

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It will head to the feeft but it will give us a spell of heavy rain

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before it clears through, by the end of the day it should be largely dry.

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It will feel chilly tomorrow, temperatures probably round where

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they have been today, seven or eight. Eight is 48 in Fahrenheit.

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But the breeze tomorrow won't be as strong, just a moderate breeze from

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the south`west. O so it will be a dry end to the

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day, clearing skies so widespread frost into Sunday and we have the

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risk of to patch, but it will be a final start until we see the wet and

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windy weather. Strong winds on Monday.

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Thank you. Now it is 50 year since the Red Arrows first took to the

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skies as a display team, and to mark the anniversary of their jets are

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going to be given a makeover. Exact details are expected to be revealed

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in the next few months but the Lincolnshire based crew are working

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on their new routine for their big anniversary year.

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This is what the Red Arrows are famous for. Action`packed display,

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that entertain the crowds. And they have been doing it for nearly 50

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years. They will probably steal the show

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where ever they appear. It was a combination of several display team,

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and so we have a fairly illustrious history, to respect that in our 50th

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display season is a great honour. Over the last 50 year, the Red

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Arrows have performed more than 4500 displays, in 55 countries. But it is

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not just about the pilots. It takes more than one hundred people to get

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the Red Arrows off the ground. Last month, the team returned from a

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tour of the Middle East and since ten they have been busy preparing

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this year's display. Training is going very well at the

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moment. The weather has been kind to us, I am hoping we can push ahead.

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It's a massive season for the team. We have been going a long time.

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But the future of the Red Arrows has been questioned in cent years, and

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the team has recently suffered tragedy, with the deaths of Flight

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Lieutenant Jon Egging and Flight Lieutenant Sean Cunningham.

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The following year the team performed with just seven aircraft,

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before bringing back their signature Diamond Nine formation last year.

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Now at the start of their special anniversary year, the Red Arrows are

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planning a few surprises. There is certain elements to the aircraft

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that may be changing that is significant. We are anticipating

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about 80 displays, but intermittent within that season is very special

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events that I shall be arranging. So lots to look forward to for

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enthusiasts and a busy 12 months for the team.

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Wonder what they will do? A big year for them. We wish them well with

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their display season. Grimsby Town will be looking to cause an upset

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when they take on Football League opposition in the FA Cup third round

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tomorrow. The non`league Mariners play Huddersfield Town who are in

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the Championship three divisions above them. With more on that and

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Hull City's tie against Middlesbrough, here is Simon Clark.

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This week a different outcome. Instead of meeting one of their

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non`league rivals the Mariners are back in the big type. There is

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nothing like a third round FA Cup tie to test you. And despite being

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to leaves below Huddersfield Town, this is a club that believes it can

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create an upset. I want the players to be confident. We spoke about

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that, about being brave and not letting sort of the name of

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Huddersfield at least be what beats us, we make sure that it is, you

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know, their team that is out there, and make them earn the victory if

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that is what they are going to get. The fans that will have bought

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tickets up to 6,500 expected tomorrow, think their team could be

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the giant killers We have had big nights in the FA Cup, they are

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playing good football, and it is just good to watch them. I think it

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will be good. It is good for the town when the club get a run in the

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cup and we haven't had one for a number of years so, it is a good

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thing I think. In Yorkshire, the short back and

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sides of star player tud tud could get a cup run in the north riding at

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Middlesbrough. Huddlestone hopes it is not a hair`raising game. I think

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that have won four out of four in the league, so we know it is going

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to be tough. Especially away from home, but as you say, the last few

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not so much the result bus the performances like Manchester United,

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the Fulham result and performance, we know that we can give them a good

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game and we have to go there looking to win the match. Today

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Huddlestone's team`mate signed a new two`and`a`half year deal with the

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club. He won't play in the cup as he has been out injured since October.

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Yesterday the Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert claimed most Premier

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League teams aren't interested in the FA Cup. That is not true of

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Grimsby Town. Club like that are round which the magic of the cup is

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woven. Commentary of the Grimsby Town FA

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Cup tie will be available online and for Hull City, there is full

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commentary of the build up on BBC Radio Humberside Saturday sport,

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that is from 1.30 tomorrow. And in the Conference Lincoln City meet

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Luton Town. BBC Radio Lincolnshire will have commentary of the match,

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and the kick off is at 1.00. Enjoy your football.

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Here is a fantastic story, a retired couple from Hull have won ?1 million

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on the National Lottery. Bernard Grundy and his partner have been

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celebrating at the KC Stadium after their win on the millionaire Ralph.

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The couple were due `` millionaire raffle. They returned home from the

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dales because of the bad wetter up in the dale, buying two tickets from

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their local shop. They hope to return to the Dales again, this time

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to buy a house. Well done to Bernard and Heather: It

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is as famous a trademark as a handbag and her suits and was an

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essential part of the former Prime Minister's look. Now the secrets of

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this famous hair do have been revealed. Despite facing some of the

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biggest crises of her leader ship ship in 1984 Margaret Thatcher's

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hair was never out of place. But, as Simon Spark has been finding out, it

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took some maintaining. 1984 buzz year that included the

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bitter battle of the miners' strike. And the IRA bombing of the Brighton

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hotel. Today as new documents released from the naver naff under

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the 30 year rule give more details of her appointments diary, yet again

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the division of those who loved and loathed her has resurfaced. But

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despite the opposition, the upheaval. The divide, one thing was

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never argued with. Her hair was always immaculate.

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Today, we see why. Her appointment diary shows he has

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118 hair appointment in 12 months. In June when she was hosting an

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economic summit she had hair appointments five days running and

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she scheduled them before 8.30 in the morning. It is fair to say not

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only was he is a politician but she was an international icon and

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somebody who took pride in her appearance, and the fact that she

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represented her party and the country, an wanted to make the best

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of it. At the twirls and curls salon, we

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got further insight. She would have probably had it permed every three

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to six months, her roots would have probably needed doing about once a

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fortnight and set on a weekly, if not twice weekly basis.

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Waste of money isn't it. Our money. Lucky. Who, I wish I could afford it

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o `` afford it. I think she needed to in her position. All we can say

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the she had got her hair done in Grantham she could have looked as

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good as this. Joining me is Michael Brown the

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former Conservative MP who was a backbench MP when Mrs Thatcher was

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Prime Minister. Good evening to you. Can you ever remember a day when her

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hair was anything less than immaculate. Never ever, I have been

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searching all my own personal records of myself and others, with

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Margaret Thatcher, throughout the whole of her political career, when

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I was in the House of Commons, with her, and then after she retired, and

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after left the House of Commons, there is not a single photo anywhere

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in any archive, Google it whatever, you will not find a photo like

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Cherie Blair when she answered the front door after her husband became

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Prime Minister. You couldn't resist that one! That Barnet and that

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handbag, they, it was like a melt, and it was Margaret Thatcher's

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warrior clothing, that she wore into every battle, whether it be against

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Arthur Scargill or Communism. What is this about a bee? Did it think it

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was a hive? My friend Lord Sherborne, her private secretary,

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said he was with her in Downing Street in the study, she was in full

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cry, he tried to interrupt her, she said be quiet. In desperation he

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said Prime Minister, I think the smell, the sweet smell of your, the

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lacquer on your hair is attracting a bee. It is about to go endo your

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hair, so finally he managed to shut the Prime Minister up to make sure

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that a bee didn't do any damage to her or the hair. But she did shout

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be careful, mind the hair. I think it is fair to say you might be

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biassed, you two were great friend as well. I was indeed. I kept in

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touch wither right up to the end. I had lunch with her just before

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Christmas last year, and I believe in your records, there is a picture

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of me taking her to dinner in 2009. That is only three`and`a`half, four

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years ago, and that hair is the same then as it was 20, 30 years ago.

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Yours is a bit all over the shop to be honest. It is. Yes. I am raddled

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with age. Age has condemned me from brabg to brown, to white, but

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Margaret Thatcher's blonde hair was the same until I last saw her on the

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4th December last year. Very good to have you on the programme tonight. I

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wish you well. Have a good weekend. Now let us recap of the main

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headlines. Flooding as another massive storm sweeps up the entire

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west coast of the UK. Lincolnshire police defend naming people charged

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with drink`driving before they go to court, saying it is what the public

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want. Room 's weather then, cloud and rain

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after a mostly dry and bright start. The rain can fall as snow over the

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higher ground. Top temperatures in the afternoon, getting up to round 8

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C. That is 46 Fahrenheit. Naming and shaping drink`drivers, a

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big response from this. Elaine says I can't see the problem with naming

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before conviction people arrested and charged with murder are named

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before trial and conviction so why not other crimes? James says so now

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the police are self appointed judge and jury, short and sweet. Is a

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serving officer, has sweet tweeted this. Is it the offence that makes

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anyone question naming those in charge, do they feel the same about

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those charged with others? Joe says aI degree with the guest, publishing

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names before conviction is against our British cons tube, we are

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innocent in this country, until proven guilty. Thank you for those.

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Have a good weekend. I will see you on Monday.

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Good

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