17/09/2014 Look North (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire)


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Good evening and welcome to BBC Look North.

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Bad conditions hamper the investigation into a helicopter

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crash off the East Yorkshird coast which killed two men.

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Unfortunately it is now at the bottom of a set of police around 150

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feet or so high. It will be a challenging recovery. I am live

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close to the crash site to read `` looking at efforts to recovdr the

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helicopter wreckage. Should

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the voting age be lowered to 16 We meet the young campaigners

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who say it should. Traders say introducing parking

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charges in parts It is just ridiculous. It whll have

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a negative impact on all thd businesses around here. I c`n't see

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anything positive that will come out of it apart from in other rdvenue

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source for the council. We meet the business recruited

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by the Red Arrows to help them And we find out how one

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of the world's rarest dogs dnded up Detailed weather forecast whll

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follow in 15 minutes. Thick fog and poor visibility has

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prevented investigators from moving the wreckage of a

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helicopter which crashed into cliffs The aircraft came down

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at Flamborough yesterday afternoon. An air accident investigation team

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has been at the site today, but has been unable to examhne the

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wreckage because of the conditions. The identities

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of the two men killed have xet to be Jo Makel has spent the day near the

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crash site and sent this report It has been a frustrating d`y for

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the inspectors. They wanted to start to recover the Jet Ranger

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helicopter, photographed here, minutes before it crashed into the

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sea below. But a six `` sit `` thick sea fog has enveloped the scene

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Investors are trying to work out what to do. There is discussion

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including recovering the helicopter by C. Alternatively we may bring in

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a much larger helicopter and lift it properly. That is dependent on

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whether. The location of thhs crash makes the recovery all the lore

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difficult. You cannot access the site from the beach because of the

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headlines lately one behind me that's just out into the se`. The

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sheer cliff faces and the thdes make is difficult. Today there is also

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the weather. Some parts of the helicopter were brought up xesterday

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as rescuers recovered the bodies of the two occupants. They supported

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the operation and were on stand`by to assist again today. The crew did

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practice exercises. When it is the real thing and you have real people

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involved, they are very sympathetic to the family of the crew. We do

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exercise. But it is still r`w when it is real people involved. The

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aircraft started its fight near Edinburgh, apparently following the

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closest. `` the coast. It wdnt is the East `` it went into thd sea at

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Flamborough yesterday afternoon There was some talk. It shotld not

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necessarily have been operating on racy past. There are a numbdr of

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reasons why it might have h`d to. There is a certain time pressure to

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this operation. The pounding of the waves and corrosive nose of the sea

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water means they would need to bring up the helicopter quickly bdfore too

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much damage is done. Jo Makel is live in Flamborough

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tonight. How much investigation work have the

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authorities managed to do today Here at the scene, very little. That

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is due to the terrible condhtions in terms of the weather and thd

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riskiness of where we are. There are two streams. One is an engineering

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one, looking at the air worthiness of the helicopter. They need the

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wreck to do that to examine its components. That is why to bring it

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up. The people were her all day that you were here all day, and `re

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hoping to come back at 6am tomorrow. In the background there is `nother

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string, looking at the oper`tion of the helicopter. They have bden able

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to be doing things towards that today. Looking at things like the

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air traffic reports, weather report, the pilot and their

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background as trading, expertise. Crucially, they will be looking at

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the eyewitness report from the people here in Flamborough who spoke

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yesterday about seeing and hearing the crash happened. They ard working

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with Humberside Police on this. They have also said that if therd is

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anybody who has not yet comd forward and was here and did see thd crash

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happen, they would very much liked is beak to them. Thank you.

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spokesman for the Department For Transport and has worked on air

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SINGING Is it normal for this to finally see

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when it could have flowed over the land? Following the coastline is one

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of the easiest to get it from a to B. How much harder will getting the

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black`box be? It probably h`sn't got a black box, but it will have some

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sort of data recorder from the engineering point of view, which

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gives us some idea how the dngines were operating and various other

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parameters. As you heard, the wreckage is on the ground, not yet

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recovered because it is inaccessible. Is it better for

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investigators to see the Rettig is in situ, rather than taking back on

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a bench in Farnborough for the first time. That `` the wreckage. It is

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always preferable. But in this case it will be difficult for thdm to go

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and see it in situ. It has been disturbed to a certain extent, but

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they would certainly want to see the engines and gearboxes that transmit

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power to the rotor head and tail rotor to see if there is anx fault

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in that which might have catsed the accident. What will be uppermost in

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their minds? They would want to eliminate things. If they c`n find

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exactly what happened, then they can say that it wasn't this, it wasn't

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that. The whole point of investigating is to learn ldssons

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for the future of aviation. If there were some major faults to bd find

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they would need to take immddiate action to make sure that information

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was passed on to the aviation authorities around the world. If

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there is a helicopter which has been around for a long time and to

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develop over the years, it hs a tried and tested machine. It is very

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well known. There are some very good eyewitness accounts from locals

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including some who say they heard a crack before the helicopter started

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following. Does that tell you anything? Will these eyewitness

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accounts be crucial? All thdse things are part of a jigsaw puzzle.

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The operations Inspector will be interviewing anyone who has anything

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they feel they can contribute to this. Another thing they will be

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looking at is the engineering records of the aircraft to lake sure

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it had been properly maintahned and was functioning correctly. Thank

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you. Scunthorpe United respond to

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recent criticism of the sidd as Under 18 's will be able to vote

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tomorrow in Scotland, which has prompted young people here to argue

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that they should be allowed to vote too. You are listening to ldgacy

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radio. We are talking of thhngs got us this morning. No prizes for

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guessing the main topic of conversation.

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While these students have an opinion on current polithcal

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Unlike 16 and 17 year olds north of the border who will be allowed

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to take part in tomorrow's referendum, a first

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Teenagers here in Scunthorpd will have to wait until they are 18 to

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cast their votes, but some believe the Scottish referendum shotld

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I think if 16 or 17`year`olds were voting and think it would breathe

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life into politics and issuds because there is so much th`t is

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good care about. Figures reveal that younger people are less likdly to

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vote. In 2010 only 44%

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of 18`24 year`olds used thehr votes What do you say to people who say

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that you are not mature enotgh at 16 to make these decisions? Whdn

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tuition fees were put up a lot of students were angered by th`t and it

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will affect me, even though I wasn't able to vote. The stereotypd is

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totally wrong when there ard thousands of students studyhng

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politics and economics at A`level and on to degree level. For a

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Scottish youths to be able to vote it is a major step forward.

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More than four decades have passed since the voting age was lowered

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from 21 to 18 and some belidve it should be reduced to 16.

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Ministers said there are currently no plans to reduce

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from 21 to 18 and some belidve it should be reduced to 16.

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The argument is that you can join the Army at 16, you can apply, but

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you cannot go out an operathon. 18 is most appropriate.

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Ministers said there are currently no plans to reduce

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the voting age across the UK, but they may come under rendwed

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pressure if Scottish teenagdrs turn out in numbers tomorrow.

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We want to hear from you on this story.

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Do you think the age of voting should be lowered?

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Maybe you are 16 or 17 and think your opinion should be counted?

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The latest unemployment figtres show a mixed picture across our `rea

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In Yorkshire and Humber 203,000 people are out of work.

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A fall of 15,000 compared to the previous quarter.

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In the East Midlands, which including Lincolnshire, the jobless

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Plans for a new stadium for Boston United won?t now havd to be

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The Secretary of State has decided to not call in the planning

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application for the Quadrant development, which also include

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The decision has now been rdferred back to Boston Borough Council who

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voted to approve the plans last month.

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Shop owners on the Bailgate area of Lincoln say that if charges are

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introduced for on`street parking, it would damage trade.

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The proposal is being considered by the City of Lincoln Council,

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who say traders and residents have nothing to worry about.

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Here in the heart of Lincoln's historic quarter, motorists can park

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The city is unusual in not charging for on`street parkhng.

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But a report on parking str`tegy for the City Council suggests

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The report says the free parking undercuts the council's own car

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Shop owners say they'd fight any such plans tooth and nahl.

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It is just ridiculous. It whll have a negative impact on all thd

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businesses around here. I c`n't see anything positive that will come out

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of it apart from another revenue source for the council. The

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council's report describes these of free parking bays on bail great as a

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premium product and says th`t their users should expect to pray a

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premium price to party. That might expect to pay.

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Motorists who use the spaces disagree.

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I wouldn't come up here. People visit these days. That makes a

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difference. If you type that Macs start charging, people would come.

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The parking charges are extortionate.

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The council's executive will consider the report next Monday

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You might have a view on this story as well.

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They say that there is `` this is not a policy that we think should be

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part of the strategy. The executive will consider the report next

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Monday. Any decision will undergo considerable consultation.

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You might have a view on this story as well.

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Should free parking in areas like this be kept?

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If you run a business, do you worry about the impact it could h`ve?

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The East Yorkshire firm recruited by the Red Arrows to help them

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it's one of the rarest dogs in the world.

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We find out how Inca ended up living in our area.

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Hannah Fletcher took this of Anderby Creek:

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We just got an extra for yot tonight. Helen Wilkinson from will

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be spotted this cloud yesterday which looks like it in a sh`pe of

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the UK. She can't work out whether this is with Scotland or without

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it. I think she's been on the Sherry!

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I said engage your brain before you say anything! Let's have a look at

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the weather. We've got some bright and sunny intervals. There hs some

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humidity and overcast skies. Temperatures at 16`17 Celsits. It

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could be up to 24 tomorrow afternoon. Unfortunately, this cloud

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has not budged all day. The cloud will beckon and get lower. We'll see

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some folk along the Hill co`st. It will be big enough to produce some

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drizzle and produce temperatures of 13`14dC. This is very mild. So, a

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dull, grey damp and misty start Gradually, visibility will hmprove

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and it will be a better chance of seeing some sunny breaks in West

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Lincolnshire. 16`17 Celsius. A bit of brightness lifting up with

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temperatures up to 23 Celsits. Across the UK, it's been thd driest

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start this September since 09 1 . High`pressure is in charge `nd a

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chance of brightness on Sunday. Last night one of the callers sahd: I

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wouldn't wear a shirt and the like that. It looks ridiculous!

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Have you had a domestic? They are a key part

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of the iconic Red Arrows displays. Well, thanks to the help from an

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East Yorkshire manufacturing team, the Red Arrows have been able to

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continue wowing the crowds during their 50th display sdason.

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For the last 18 months, BAE Systems in Brough have been

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building the special smoke pods that add the colour to

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their spectacular displays. Simon Spark reports.

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The breath`taking aerobatics of the Red Arrows have kept them up there

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There's pride too with their Lincolnshire connections being

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based at RAF Scampton and now further pride with

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Here at BAE Systems, in Brotgh, they've been manufacturing

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a key component of their display, the pods that produce their

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The point you see behind us is the front`end. Normally, this would give

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it the shape and this is whdre it is filled. The pipe connects to the

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aircraft will The first surprise is the shze

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of them. The second is that,

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despite their size, they can only be used for a maximum of 7 minttes

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5 minutes of white smoke and just You can see by the size of the

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facility here that it?s not just At the moment, their biggest order

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is for 22 Hawks for the Roy`l Saudi we are in the middle of the nose

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cone section. The factory here has a

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long`established history with making the Hawk, but the pods haven't been

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made for over 20 years so that meant The actual design hasn't ch`nged

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because we been manufacturing them for so long. A lot of e`learning has

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gone and the history has gone. So we gone back to the blueprint `nd it

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has taken us a lot longer than we thought it would.

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The first Brough Pod, has already featured in the

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You get comments asking you if you are proud to work on it will stop

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The rest will hope to join next year?s display season.

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German renewables have begun an energy tour at the scene ends

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manufacturing site in Hull, tomorrow. We're hoping to lhnk with

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Germany. The energy market is really

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important to us. It will consume millions of tonnes of steel and help

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us to procure jobs and skills within the local but on me. `` economy

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Thanks to everyone who got in touch about Hull City supporters

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booing each other in Monday's match against Wdst Ham.

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The "City Till We Die" group opposes plans by the owners to change

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Supporters singing anti`change songs were booed by fellow fans mhdway

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I booed because I am sick of this lot bringing the cltb down.

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If they don't like the change, then don't go to the game.

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Scunthorpe United enjoyed a victory in League 1 last night,

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only hours after their chairman had expressed his

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Peter Swann asked the players and management to prove thelselves,

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and they did, as our sports reporter Simon Clark explains.

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The Iron took to the field last night knowing they

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Chairman Peter Swann has made public his displeasure

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We don't want to be down at this end of the table, fighting relegation.

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That was part of the messagd for me. Let's not wait. Let's hit otr game

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First though an act of remembrance for the passhng

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Then the action but, from Swann to the humblist of fans, collective

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hearts must have sunk, as Frank Nouble opened for the visitors.

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Then a turning point, as Reda Johnson appeared to butt

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From then United set off for the win, with Paddy Madden equalising.

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And Taylor himself got the `ll ` important winner,

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a header to end a seven match unbeaten run for Coventry,

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I think it was clear that the manager was unhappy with thd

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performance at Chesterfield. The bingo players were happy either and

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they had a point to prove. Ht all added to the game. Every gale is

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important and we need to pick up as many points as possible. Thd results

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One of the rarest dogs in the world has found a new home

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Her owners live near Goole `nd are hoping to increase that number.

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Meet Inca, five months old and the onlx,

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It's a Dutch breed and, likd most of her kind, she was born in Holland.

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We had some relatives who vhsited the Netherlands. When they returned

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home, they noticed that thex had seen a really rare breed of dog

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To get Inca, Pam had to reghster with the Stabyhoun Associathon, who

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are trying to increase numbdrs, as there are only around 6,000 left in

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It's not a specialist dog breeds. People were originally breeding dogs

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with a particular purpose. Sammuel Amin is a `` Inca is a friendly and

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domesticated dog. She just wants to be with you. That

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is what she is like. But it's hoped the breed will become

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more popular, so that one d`y soon Inca will no longer be the only

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lonely Stabyhoun in East Yorkshire. If you think that you have ` story

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we should know about them please get in touch.

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Let's get a recap of the national and regional headlhnes

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There is a last perch for Scotland's referendum.

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There is a last perch for Scotland's referendum.

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Bad conditions hamper the investigation into a helicopter

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which crashed off the East Yorkshire coast, killing two men.

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Another dull, misty and damp start, slowly turning brighter with sunny

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Maximum temperature inland, 20 Celsius.

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Now, the subject of boating: The age should be raised, not lowerdd. What

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do young people know about politics?

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Why on earth should we allow young people to vote is another opinion.

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Another opinion is that use of 6 ` 17 do not have the maturity to boat.

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I have been working since I was 16, I should be allowed to boat. ``

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