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Hello and welcome to Thursday's Look North. Tonight, hundreds of

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new jobs from the north as an engineering firm wins a contract to

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build train parts. Also tonight, how this little girl's life was

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saved by a quick thinking bin man out on his rounds. I don't know

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what would have happened if he couldn't have started her breathing

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again, because the ambulance wasn't near. Nobody else was doing

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anything. Jailed. The man who beat a woman with a steel bar and then

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raped her in an horrific attack. The children of today remember a

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disaster which claimed the lives of 183 youngsters more than a century

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ago. And down to a tea. How experts have come up with a formula for

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making the perfect cuppa. In sport disappointment for Blue Bajan in

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the Royal Ascot Gold Cup and revolving doors at St James' Park

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as Kevin Nolan signs for West Ham, hammers striker Demba Ba arrives on

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First tonight, the engineering company Siemens is to create up to

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300 jobs on South Tyneside. The company's won a deal to make Compo

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nens for train carriages at its factory in Hebburn. It is a

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contract that will see 2,000 new jobs across the UK as part of a

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deal to build trains for Thameslink. Ian Reeve joins us from Hebburn. It

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goes without saying this news has been widely welcomed. Yes, it has,

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because it, as you say excellent news but it is being reported that

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Siemens which is a German company, won this train order of a UK based

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company leaving it with a dearth of orders. Well, is that the case?

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This is the company's response. Firstly bombardier is a Canadian

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company and very much under separate ownership, but Siemens has

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a long history in the UK. 160 plus years in the UK. This plant alone

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has been here 100 years and the plant on the north of the Tyne, the

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parson's facility has been here 100 years, there is 2,000 people in

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this area employed by Siemens so we are a localised company. Well of

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course many of us remember this place as the former ray roll

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factory that employed up to 12,000 people. I have been speaking to two

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workers who while welcoming this new order remember this place in

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its heyday. As you come on to the site, the site is well done on what

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down on what it used to be. But we are still here we are still

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fighting. We still have lads here who have been here as long as I

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have, now that we have the news we have received this order, it is

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fantastic news. Really good. They are talking about five years work

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and that is brilliant in anybody's book. That is brilliant. So it will

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see me until I I'm 606789 you know, that will be great. -- 60. Not

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surprisingly the Government is being basks in -- basking in these

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good news. This is the Transport Minister. This is good news for the

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North East, and it comes hard on the heels of the announcement on

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the InterCity express programme, which means that we will see a

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train assembly plant at Newton Aycliffe, so together these

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announcements are seeing something of a renaissance in the train

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business, for the North East, demonstrating once again the

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strength of the manufacturing capacity in the North East, and the

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competitiveness of what the North East is able to offer. Ian, there

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is another Siemens factory nearby which is shedding job, will those

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workers move into the new posts? That is right. There is a factory

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owned by Siemens that is shedding 90 jobs and moving a full order

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book to Germany. So I asked the company would those people, those

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losing their jobs be able to transfer. Siemens said they train

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people to allow them to move elsewhere within the company, but

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there doesn't seem to be any guarantee the 890 people losing

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their jobs can have any of these 300 new ones. Thank you. He has

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been hailed a hero. Bin man Paul Thompson saved the life of a two-

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year-old girl as he was out on his rounds in Middlesbrough. Paul

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sprang into action after the grandmother of Farrah Appleby ran

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into the street screaming for help with Farrah in her arms. The tot --

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toddler has suffered a fit but Paul managed to revive her. Alive, well

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and back in the arms of her Nana. But this time last week, the scene

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was very different. I was babysitting my granddaughter, she

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collapsed on the floor but she I was shaking, and her eyes were

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going back. I panicked. So I grabbed Farrah and ran across the

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street, to my neighbour, and I just like took her, and I said something

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the matter with her. Hold her, but she didn't really know neither what

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was the matter with her. Fortunately bin man Paul Thompson

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was just round the corner, and he did know, having done a council

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first-aid course. I saw the little girl in her grandma's arms, and she

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was struggling to breathe. She was purple in the face, so, and

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everybody was panicking and hysterical. There was no control.

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So I decided to act and run over quick, I asked her grandmother for

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the child. She passed me the child and I put her in the recovery

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position and I put my finger in her mouth because her tongue was

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blocking her airway. I pulled the tongue forward with my finger, and

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she gasped for air. We don't know what would have happened if he

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couldn't have saved her, started her breathing because the ambulance

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wasn't near. Nobody else was doing anything. Loads of people in the

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street, but thrps there was only Paula, like, everybody was

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panicking, they didn't know. So yes. Paul was brilliant. Really nice guy

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He degraded and humiliated his Vic tiing in a horrific attack. Michael

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Preston beat a woman over the head with a steel bar and then raped her.

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Today, 31-year-old Preston from Hartlepool was told he was serve a

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minimum of six-and-a-half years in prison. Michael Preston had just

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been released from prison when he subjected his victim a judge said,

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to the most awful physical and sexual violence. Then the police

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say he tried to destroy the evidence. Outside court, a police

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officer read out a statement on behalf of Preston's victim.. Now he

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has been sentenced it stops him attacking anybody else. I have

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nightmares but I am hoping with time these will fade. I reported

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the attack because I wanted the man to be caught and brought to justice.

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Now he has, I can move on. It was here at Thornaby rail depot he

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carried out the attack. When his victim tried to run away, he picked

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up a metal bar, and hit her over the head. He then raped her. After

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the assault he picked up the metal bar again and continued to hit her

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over the head. Leaving her for dead, he ran away. Amazingly somehow she

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managed to move herself from here and get help. It was an horrific

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violent sexual attack which no human being should suffer. The

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victim showed a great deal of bravery. She was in and out of

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consciousness and it was a case of pursuing bits of information that

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we had and she could fill the gaps in, which was difficult but she was

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very brave. The judge warned him he would serve a long time in prison.

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Just because he was eligible for parole in six-and-a-half years he

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said, it was unlikely he would released then. Northern Rock is up

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for sale. The Chancellor George Osborne made the announcement last

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night at his Mansion House speech in London. The Newcastle-based bank

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was taken into public ownership in February 2008 but the intention of

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the current and previous Government was always to return it to the

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private sector. Earlier I spoke to the man who first broke the Tory of

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the Rock's severe financial problem, the BBC's business editor Robert

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Peston. I asked him who he thinks the likely bidders might be? Well,

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we know that the Coventry building society, the Yorkshire Building

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Society, a special company set up to buy banks, called NBNK. Virgin

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money, they have expressed an interest in at least getting hold

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of the books and deciding whether to make baid. It is too early to

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make a prediction about who in the end will put their money on the

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table and make a serious offer. lot of people still working for

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Northern Rock up here, what are the implications for jobs? You I know,

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more, you know I think there must be questions about the outlook for

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job, frankly whoever buys it. I think it is impossible to make

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concrete predictions about what will happen but I can understand

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why people would be nervous. the sale was announced last night

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but any idea of timescale for a deal? Well, the Treasury wants to

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get on wit as quickly as possible, they would like to be able to name

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a preferred buyer before the end of the year, but let us be clear, this

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is not an easy business to sell. It is loss making, it is relatively

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small, banking is not a particularly fashionable industry

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at the moment, there is a lot of money sort of sloshing round, so,

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you know, although the Government has been advised, that it is

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sellable, and although the Government is hopeful that it will

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get about �1 billion for it, we will see whether that turns out to

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be slightly too optimistic. You know, I think this is going to be a

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pretty difficult business to sell frankly. More news now and 16

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primary schools in the North East and Cumbria are in special measure,

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and face being taken out of council control. The Education Secretary

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Michael Gove wants to see 200 of the worst performing primary

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schools in England removed from Local Authority control, and turned

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into academies. The father of the missing chef Claudia Lawrence has

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been speaking at a Parliamentary inquiry into the rights of missing

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people's families. Claudia was last seen in York in March 2009. The

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session at Westminster looked at whether a legal guard yab ship

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could help manage affairs. There is no legal mechanism round in England

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and Wales, for people to deal with all the practical things that you

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need to do when a missing adult goes missing. Like Claudia, she was

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34 when she went missing, eshe had her own house, mortgage, car,

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insurance policy, and you have to try and deal with those with banks

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and insurance companies saying sorry, you are not our customer, we

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can't take instructions from you. There has to be something to

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alleviate that. Let us hope one day that mystery will be solved. It has

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been teetering on the brink for weeks but could the care home

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company Southern Cross be heading for better times? A deal has been

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struck with the Darlington firm's lands Lords which will allow them

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four months to restructure themselves. But some relatives of

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those in the homes are concerned. Multi-million pound loss, top level

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financial talks but actually this is the reality of Southern Cross

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for many people in our region, ordinary buildings like this one in

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Darlington where their loved-ones live. This afternoon at this care

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home, a meeting between residents, relatives, and the management. Now,

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Southern Cross didn't want us to hear what the relatives said in the

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meeting. They wouldn't allow us to film that event. It seems even with

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a financial deal struck for a few months, things are still sensitive.

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But which did bump into Anne, off to that meeting. Her mum has been

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in this care home since January. So is she reassured by the latest

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deal? Not really. Is this particular home going to stay open?

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Or will it be taken over by another provider? These are the things I

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want to know. It does worry me when Southern Cross say that they are

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going to reduce care staff. Most of the people in these care homes are

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physically disabled, mentally impaired and these people need one-

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to-one care. An hour later Anne emerged from the meeting. No, there

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is no answers. It is all, you know, very much up in the air. So the

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concerns you had are still there? Yes, yes, it could take week,

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months. Southern Cross say while every effort will be made to

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minimise redundancies at the home, other changes they are introducing

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will improve care quality. Staying with financial matters, Newcastle

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Airport is calling for taxes on individual flights to be replaced

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with a tax on airport congestion instead. Newcastle is one of ten

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regional airports arguing that any increase in the current air

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passenger u duty system would damage business. It says London has

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the most congested airports and should pay more tax. To allow

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smaller airports to compete. It argues that flight taxes are

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deterring low and middle income families from flying. It would

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stimulate demand. More people would be able to afford to fly. That

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would allow us to put on more service, that would be beneficial

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to the private sector in the region. It would help rebalance the economy,

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and it would just give that stimulus to the regional economy we

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need. A Carlisle man with a muscle wasting disease is lobbying MPs and

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train companies in London today, to try to improve access a at railway

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stations. David Gale says a steep ramp and bridge at Carlisle make

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life difficult for people with mobility problem, although Virgin

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has promised to reinstate lifts by 2013 Mr Gale says most stations

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present problems. He is hoping the meeting will lead to changes.

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Basically today, I am down in Westminster, to meet many

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representatives from train operators to discuss disabled

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access, that is the main reason I'm going down to try and universely

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improve things on the rail network and hopefully everybody can have

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the same access. You are watching Look North. Still to come. This

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Thursday evening. What makes a perfect cup of tea? We reveal the

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formula the experts say produces the best brew. And there is rain on

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the way tomorrow, then an improving picture through the course of the

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weekend. I will have all the weather details shortly. It was

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billed as the greatest treat for children ever given. But it ended

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in the lofs 183 young lives. And today, pupils from four schools in

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Sunderland gathered to remember those who died in the Victoria Hall

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disaster nearly 130 years ago. They were crushed in a stampede for

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gifts after a show at the city's concert hall. A ceremony of

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remembrance. School-children reflecting on history. 183 children

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their age, died in the Victoria Hall disaster in 1883. Exactly 128

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years ago today. The names of those lost, each read out. The service

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led by Father Stephen Edmonds. discovered that nothing is done to

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recognise this each year and we thought we would come together and

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acknowledge this event in our city's history. It is a great sign

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of hope for us, that in the middle of this disaster, here are children

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who want to tell the story and to be involved in telling that history,

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to grown ups. At the long demolished Victoria Hall an

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entertainer offered free Geoffs to children. Many in the gallery

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rushed down the staircase. They met a partly bolted inward opening door,

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they couldn't get out. Within minutes children were getting

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crushed. 100 were seriously injured and many died, but their story

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firmly present in the hearts and minds of those here today.

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people died. They thought have thought about the doors before they

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put so many children in there of them were really young. Like

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three-year-old. Made us quite upset. Nay have been studying in it school

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so we have tried to bring it the life and make it a community event.

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A lot of older people are interested in what they are

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studying in the classroom. In the Sunderland museum one of gift, a

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rocking horse damaged on the day in the chaos. After today's event, it

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is hoped that all schools in this community can be involved for the

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130th anniversary. Amazing. Now, just about everyone loves a cup of

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tea. Especially here in the north, where we drink more than seven

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million cups of the stuff every day. But do we know how to make it

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properly? Don't shout at once because researchers at Northumbria

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university have come up with the formula for the perfect cuppa. It

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doesn't involve warming the pot! There is nothing so British as a

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cup of tea. And nothing that can sometimes divide us more either

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like to squash mine against the cup with the spoon. A lot of guys make

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tea, they take the bag out and plop it on the bench. It is important

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how you have your tea. What do you think about putting the milk in

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second? Never. I always put the milling in last. Do you? What is

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your perfect cup of tea? Cider. what better news that that of a new

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formula for perfect cup of tea. Scientists at Northumbria

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university have spent months researching it We prepared 285 cups

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of tea. We use quite a few panellists to describe the tea. It

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is ball balanced. The flavour and milkyness is balanced. So with our

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region's rich history of tea making what better place to put to it the

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test than at ring on thes. So here it is, the formula for the perfect

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cuppa. So first it is TB, which is tea bag. You add freshly boiled

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water. Then BT. Brewing time. You need to leave it for two minutes.

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Thirdly. M. Milk. You need to add tenmls. Then brewing time again.

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Wait six minutes and then you should get your perfect cuppa at a

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temperature of 60 degrees. But do u the expects agree? Simon, what do

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you think? Well, for me, I would brow it for longer, everybody likes

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their tea their own individual way. I think I know my way and you

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probably know yours so I don't think in reality there really is a

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perfect way. So experts here at ring on thes say it is a personal

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choice. For me, it is missing a vital ingredient. A jammie dodger.

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Other biscuits are available. Of course! Not that I eat them any

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more. I do enjoy a cup of tea. I saw you with a biscuit the other

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day. You are fussy about your tea. I like the put the milk in second.

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If you put too much in first it is ruined. Men are so fussy! Big news.

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He led Newcastle United to promotion and helped them cement

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their place back in the Premier League, but today Kevin Nolan

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completed his transfer to relegated West Ham United. His five year deal

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is thought to be worth up to �4 million. Meanwhile a Hammers

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striker has been on Tyneside this afternoon, hoping to move in the

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opposite direction. Fellow midfielder Joey Barton,

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whose own future on Tyneside is uncertain, had already bemoaned the

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likely departure of Kevin Nolan via Twitter. "Great player, leader,

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captain, person, trainer and mostly a friend for life" he said.

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Nolan, who teams up again with old boss Sam Allardyce, the new West

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Ham manager, scored some important goals for Newcastle, but perhaps

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his leadership qualities in a squad renowned for its good team spirit

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will be most missed. The length of contract he wanted

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was the biggest sticking point according to Magpies boss Alan

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Pardew today, with the club's hierarchy unwilling to hand out

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long-term contract extensions to the likes of Nolan and Barton.

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Expect a more youthful squad at St James's come August.

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One of the new arrivals could well be West Ham's Senegalese striker

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Demba Ba, who arrived at St James's Park this afternoon to discuss a

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move from Upton Park. On Wearside, meanwhile, news that

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Sunderland supporters have been officially named as the best

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behaved in the Premier League last season. Chairman Niall Quinn will

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be asking fans how the �20,000 prize money should be spent.

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The draw for the first round of the Carling Cup hasn't thrown up any

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particular highlights for our teams. A League One clash for Hartlepool,

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who take on newly relegated Sheffield United at Victoria Park,

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while Carlisle travel to Oldham. But the former Middlesbrough boss,

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Steve McClaren, who succeeded Billy Davies as Nottingham Forest manager

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earlier this week, has a local derby on his hands. McClaren was

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presented to the media at the City Ground today, and now knows his

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first Cup tie back in English football will see his Forest side

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take on local rivals Notts County. Disappointment for the trainer and

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owner of Blue Bajan in this afternoon's Gold Cup at Ascot.

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Owner John Hollowood forked out �25,000 to enter his horse, trained

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at Middleham by David O'Meara, as a late runner, but it was one gamble

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that didn't pay off. Despite being well backed, Blue Bajan eventually

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crossed the line in tenth place in the oldest race at Royal Ascot.

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Favourite Fame and Glory was the winner.

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And Durham's cricketers are aiming to be Twenty20 winners tonight for

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the second time this week. After beating leaders Notts on Tuesday at

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Chester-le-Street, they'll be trying to do the double when the

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teams take to the field at Trent Bridge. The game starts at 7

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o'clock. The weather has been o'clock. The weather has been

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decent. But is it changable? It is very fickle. It is a case of making

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hay while the sunshines. Tonight's weather photographers have been

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doing just that. A lovely traditional blue sky looking out

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across Ullswater. This time of the year, another traditional shot,

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this time on Newcastle Town Moor. The Hoppings being set up at the

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minute. Lovely sunshine there. It gets under way tomorrow for nine

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days. Tomorrow, we have got rain on the way. It's a dry start for most.

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Rain spreading to most places through the course of day and it is

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changeable for the weekend as well. So more of that in a second. There

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were a few showers round today, most through the morning, they

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tended to fizzle out by the afternoon, clear away from that

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North East coast by tea time and most rounding the day on a fine day.

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One or two showers in western Cumbria. They might not disappear

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through the night but most places stay dry, the longest clear spells

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in the east again and temperatures, well generally down between eight

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and 10C but a few spots in the east could be a few degrees colder than

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that. Five or six in one or two spots by the end of the night.

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Those showers in the west first thing tomorrow, they will become

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more widespread. The early bright innocence the east starts to fade

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as the cloud thickens up and through the afternoon most places

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will see some outbreaks of rain. I say most places, if you are near

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the North East coast you will hang on to the cryest weather longest

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but by team time many of us will have seen some rain. The rain more

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persistent in the west. That is where temperatures will struggle.

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The eastern areas that will see the best temperatures. Come frt further

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west the rain is there the longest. 14 to 16 typical, that is round

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about 60 degrees Fahrenheit. South- easterly winds on the fresh side.

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That is bringing wet and windy weather. That low pressure and

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weather front. It hangs round for a time on Saturday. Gradually moves

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away as the low moves over Scandinavia and things improve as

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we head into Sunday. It looks as if you are out and about over the

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weekend, that Sunday looks the better of the todays. I think there

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will be dry bright weather in the west. Keswick, some bright spells.

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Further east we are more likely to see outbreaks of rain on and off.

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Eventually ta rain clearing away as we head into Saturday evening, and

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jou overnight and Sunday looks a much improved picture. Temperatures

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with sunny spell, maybe as high as 19C. Lighter wind all together a

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more summary feel for Sunday. Remember to keep your June weather

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pictures coming as well. You might be lucky and feature as the June

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page in our weather calendar. If you wanted to know how the e-mail

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them to us the details are on the website. That is the way the

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weather is looking. If it is the Hoppings it usually means rain. The

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headlines. Britain's high street shops saw a drop in sales last

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month. They fell by 1.4%. A bigger drop than predicted and 300 jobs

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look set to be create in the the North East as Siemens is named the

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