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Paralympic potential. Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with

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Gordon Burns and Jayne Barrett. Our top story. Appalling, gratuitous

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violence - a public inquiry severely criticises the treatment

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of Iraqi detainees by the Queen's Lancashire regiment Relatives of

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Baha Mousa, who died in custody, call for prosecutions of the

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soldiers involved. I remember him all the time. I loved him. He was a

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good son. We'll be talking in-depth to the soldier who tried to

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resuscitate Baha Mousa about his shame at what happened. We all have

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-- all have responsibilities that day. Also tonight. Lining up to

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support Liverpool. Cunard cruises into the debate about the new

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terminal. Summertime! Carnegie Hall, a TV talent show and a record deal.

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Carly tells us how she copes with all that and autism. And Paralympic

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pride in the North West. I'll be live at Manchester's Aquatic Centre,

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looking at the science of success for our 2012 hopefuls. The father

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of an Iraqi civilian beaten to death by soldiers from a Lancashire

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regiment is demanding those responsible be brought to justice.

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So far, only one of them have been punished. Baha Mousa died while in

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the custody of soldiers from the Queen's Lancashire Regiment in

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Basra eight years ago. Today, the chairman of a public inquiry into

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what happened described their behaviour as appalling. In a moment,

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we'll get an account of what happened from someone who was there,

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a soldier from Bolton. First, here's Stuart Flinders. Iraq 2003.

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Saddam Hussein has gone, but British soldiers are up against an

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insurgency, never sure who's their enemy, who's their friend. Baha

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Mousa, a hotel receptionist, was taken in for questioning and beaten

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to death. He turned out to be innocent. Baha Mousa was in the

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custody of soldiers from the Queen's Lancashire Regiment, now

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the Duke of Lancaster has, based at these barracks in Preston. Five

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years ago, seven of them faced allegations relating to the

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mistreatment of detainees and a court martial. All, except one,

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were cleared. The one man punished was Corporal Donald Payne, filmed

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shouting at some of those detained with Baha Mousa. He admitted

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inhumanely treating civilians but was acquitted of manslaughter. The

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court order prevents us showing his face. Today, the chairman of the

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public inquiry described him as a violent bully. He devised a

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particularly unpleasant about that of sorting detainees. It consisted

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of punching and kicking each detainee in sequence, causing each

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to admit other signs of distress. Baha Mousa's father now lives in

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Egypt. I remember him all the time. I look at his picture. Baha Mousa's

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lawyer is demanding new legal action against 19 soldiers of the

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Queen's Lancashire Regiment, who, he says, went beyond the law.

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techniques for explicitly banned by Edward Heath in 1972 and were found

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to be unlawful. But they were being used on a systemic basis by the

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First Battalion, the Queen's Lancashire Regiment, in Iraq in

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2003, to force suspects to provide information. The Ministry of

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Defence admits the episode casts a dark shadow on the army's

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reputation. The Defence Secretary, Liam Fox, says more may yet be

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brought to account for what they did to Baha Mousa. After Baha Mousa

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was beaten to death, the soldier who found him and tried to

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resuscitate him was Private Garry Reader. Now retired from the army,

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he witnessed the events of that night at close-hand. I spoke to

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Garry earlier and asked what he remembered of Baha Mousa's

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treatment. Baha Mousa was quite a big man. He was singled out. He

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kept removing his soundbite from his head and making a beeline for

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the door. And he was roughly handled into to position and was

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punched and kicked. It was heavy kicking? In cases, yes. Did you

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have any feeling at the time that this was wrong? I did question what

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happened to him, not just 10 but the other detainees. At the same

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respect, I was cowardly enough to never stand up. What did you think

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would happen if you said something? I was scared of people who were

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there. It could have affected my career. I could have been picked

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upon myself for being weak. At what point did you realise something was

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seriously wrong? When I went to check on him, after 10 minutes,

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after I had last seen him. I saw him slumped. I realised that

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something was not right. His head was bowed down. I removed the sand

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bank and I noticed he was not breathing. What did you do when you

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saw him in that condition? shouted. Help me. He had his hands

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tied behind his back. I could not lie pin down properly. I shouted

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for a knife to cut his plastic handcuffs. Bit by bit... My

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colleagues came in to help. And phonetic helped me. And he was

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taken away. Did you know he was dead? I knew he was dead, yes.

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the other men know he was dead? sorts of things were going around.

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People were thinking, he could be brought back. People started to

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worry, they were questioning people and blaming each other. Was there

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any agreement that you would not speak if it was investigated?

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was put down to several people. Specific people. People who would

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deny things. The team try to stick together. But we all had our own

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part in that that day. Was a general remorse? How did they

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react? When they knew he had been kicked to death? People were

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frightened, frightened of the outcome. They knew the trouble with

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because. Someone was going to get blamed for it. People were looking

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at ways to get out of it. They knew they had done wrong. When you look

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back, how do you can? Angry at myself, because I let myself down.

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Angry at others who were responsible. Angry for those who

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knew they had done something but cannot speak out. How often do you

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think about it? Not a day goes by, when you don't think of something.

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If I could take it all back, and what. It will never happen, one

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question mark do you feel ashamed? I cannot move on with my left, yes.

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Thank you very much. This afternoon, the country's most senior military

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officer said Baha Mousa's death had cast a dark shadow over the

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reputation of the British Army. Joining me now to discuss that is

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Michael Dewar, a former army colonel who's now a defence analyst.

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Surely a Sir not only on the Queen's Lancashire Regiment but the

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entire army? It was utterly disgraceful. There is no doubt

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about the severity and no one is denying that. Indeed, I have on my

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lap, a statement from the Chief of the General Staff and I have seldom

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seen anything so frank and apologetic and netting complete

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culpability. All that, there is no doubt. But I would say this is an

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exceptional occurrence. These were practices and in 1972. Still going

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on today. Gary refer to those as be normal. How did this happen? That

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isn't completely clear, it is true that Edward Heath said in the

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context of Northern Ireland, that the practices of foods and stress

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positions was not to go on in Northern Ireland. And was not to

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happen in the context of the United Kingdom. Surely anybody... This is

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important, it isn't entirely clear that whether it apply in warfare

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and whether or not Iraq was a war. Even lawyers admit that this has

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some doubt and there is uncertainty about this. Nobody looking at that

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shocking footage would think that was the behaviour expected of the

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British Army. You are getting confused, using hoods, that was

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banned, and stress positions. I said that no one in any way excuses

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the beating up and the kicking and punching and the 93 injuries that

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were on this poor man's body. should happen to those people who

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have been severely criticised in this report? What should happen to

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them? I am not in a position, I am not to judge. Clearly, the army is

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going to look at this further. The chief of the General Staff

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statement makes it clear. Further charges might be brought if there

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is sufficient evidence. On the first occasion, one individuals

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found guilty of Inchinnan conduct. -- of inhumane conduct. Thank you.

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More of the day's news from around the North West. Two men from

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Greater Manchester have been found guilty of preparing acts of

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terrorism. Manchester Crown Court heard that Munir Farooqi from

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Longsight and Matthew Newton from Stalybridge tried to recruit

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undercover police officers to fight British soldiers in Afghanistan. A

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third man, Harris Farooqi from Levenshulme, was cleared of any

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involvement in the plot. The government is being urged to create

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a new form of marine protection for animals and habitats around the

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Irish Sea. Recommendations for the North West include areas close to

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the Ribble Valley, Cumbria, Sefton, Fylde, Morcambe Bay and The Isle of

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Man. These conservation zones designed to protect seabed habitats.

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You might be aware from the 6pm news that today is International

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Paralympic Day, the official launch ahead of next year's Games in

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London. Tony's at the Manchester Aquatic Centre, Team GB's high-

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performance centre for disability swimming, to tell us more. It is

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flattering, the kids are having fun and this is the business end,

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whether Paralympic swimmers will be based completely before 2012. This

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place has a place in history, there were stands for parallel.. Meaning

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the able-bodied and disabled games run parallel to each other. You can

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see Ian Thorpe at the same meeting as Paralympic athletes. Sarah

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Storey hopes to take that link even further. She wants to compete in

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both the Olympics and the Paralympics. But how do so and

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other athletes like her improve their performance? Stuart has been

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reporting on the secret behind their success... Another gold medal

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performance from Sarah Storey. The European para-cycling Championships.

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She puts part of her success down to science. We can look at. It is

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very intricate. The science helping Sarah and others succeed is based

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in Manchester, here at the English Institute of Sport. We put together

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a support package based around science and medicine to optimise

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their performance and that could be any number of things, working with

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the track centre or on the roadside, right through to providing soft

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tissue and physiotherapy on a day- to-day basis. Look at this! When

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Chris Hoy claimed gold and Manchester, it inspired Billy

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Norglen to take up the sport and Shania trains alongside him. Yes,

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the Paralympics and they Olympic team, they train together and it is

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amazing to watch them. It inspires you. Science is also helping

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disabled athletes at the start of their careers. Sports scientists

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from the University of Central Lancashire are working with a ouija

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sports club. We do biomechanics to see how they move. We asked them to

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some movements and that will help then it more efficiently and there

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can be more effective in the wheelchair. Whether at the pinnacle

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of your career or just the beginning, science can help you

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steal a march on the opposition. Joining me is a swimming coach,

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Louise Robinson. What is the secret of success when it comes to the

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north-west? In the 2002, not games we were blessed with great

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facilities and the legacy is we have this world-class swimming pool.

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And a world class Cycling facility. This is the focal point. What

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support and grants to get? All that teenage? Yes, as a support be a

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sponsored by British Gas and they pay for the camps and the athletes

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get money from the lottery. UK Sport. They get to be professionals,

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they don't have to work, they can come here and train and get money.

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Success breeds success and this place must be a magnet for the rest

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of the country? Once you have world class athletes in a world-class

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facility, bringing the coaching and the science, it just gets huge. The

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swimmers here are all really excited about two Olympics and the

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Paralympics. It is just a vibrant area for stop we will hear from

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Heather later on. Who else should be look out for? I have to talk

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about this centre, the athletes, Matthew Walker, world champion,

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Natalie Jones, Thomas Young, Sean Fraser, M Proctor, I cannot mess

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anyone out, Tom Pepper. Who else? It is just a brilliant bunch.

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Congratulations on your success so far. More to come from the Aquatics

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Centre later. Time for a trick -- quick trip down the children's

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slide. Thank you very much. Cunard's newest liner, the Queen

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Elizabeth, sailed into the Mersey today on her maiden voyage, kicking

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of the Mersey River Festival. And she brought with her Cunard's

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support for Liverpool's bid to bring full turnaround cruises to

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Liverpool. But it seems there's not much support from anywhere else. As

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the deadline for public consultation to beef-up Liverpool's

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cruise terminal fast approaches, other UK ports are stepping up the

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pressure. They want the Government to pull the plug on plans, which

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they say are unfair. Her maiden voyage into Liverpool. For many on

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board, too. It was incredible, it is a beautiful harbour and we love

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the buildings. But for people from closer to home, this is a journey

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that had to start in Southampton. It was a long drive, yes. It's an

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industry that oozes wealth. But without turnaround facilities like

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passport control and baggage handling, Liverpool's share of it

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isn't. With turnaround facilities you could have 2,000 guests who all

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need a hotel room the night before the cruise, a taxi down to the port

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and local businesses could help replenish supplies at the start and

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end of journeys. That's what Liverpool wants. But is it fair?

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Public money helped pay for this terminal. Other UK ports are crying

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foul. Most of the ports around the country and most cities have had

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European Union funding. And I think it is hypocritical for people to

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ask us to pay money back to Europe when Europe don't want this.

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today, a rare voice of support from Southampton. Setanta and remains a

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or BS but if in future Liverpool invests in their facilities, and

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they have the opportunity to have a turnaround, it is possible that the

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voyages could start in Liverpool. This is a bid they want to see work.

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Despite their Southampton base, Liverpool will always be Cunard's

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spiritual home. The final decision will be in September and we will we

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will be across that. Images have been revealed showing how

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Manchester's skyline could change as part of a project led by the Co-

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op. The �800 million NOMA project could take up to 15 years to

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complete. The first phase is due to be finished next year. If the rest

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is approved, the scheme will cover a 20 acre site around Victoria

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Station and will include retail, leisure and residential

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developments. A seven meter high piece of twisted steel taken from

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the World Trade Centre after the 9/11 terrorist attacks will go on

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public display at the Imperial War Museum North in Salford. It marks

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the 10th anniversary of the Twin Towers attack in New York in which

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nearly 3000 people died. The girder is one of the first pieces of steel

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from Ground Zero ever brought to the UK. In front of you is a piece

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of the very structure that collapsed in a matter of seconds.

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Following the huge impact. It is really moving. And it is a huge

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symbol of the nature of those events. The North West has a habit

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of creating Paralympic medalists in the pool. 20 can tell us about one

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of our hope. I grow -- 20. Welcome back. As you have heard, the north-

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west is gaining a huge reputation. One of those is Heather Frederiksen

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from Leigh. Heather was an able- bodied swimmer competing alongside

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the like of Rebecca Adlington before an accident led to her

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losing mobility down her right side. She's been speaking to us about how

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she felt when doctors said she wouldn't swim again. It was a

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massive blow for me. That part of my life. I was sat at home,

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watching the Commonwealth Games. Yes, one of the competitors I used

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to some against, she went and won her race and I got the hunger and I

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decided I would finish when I wanted to. I went downstairs to

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tell my mother I was not ready to finish. And then it just snowballed

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from there, really. I want to sing again -- has won again completely.

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The first time, I went around in a circle. I had to completely learned

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my body balance and were to put my arms. I have limited the ability in

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one of my arms and I only use one leg. It was really hard working in

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that time, something I wanted to do and I want to do it again seriously.

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Nobody has said that anything in this life is easy. Heather

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Frederikesen! To qualify his achievement in itself. I got two

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golds and a bronze in Beijing. They would like to improve upon that.

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Then again, that is what everybody it's every four years. To be able

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to do that with the national anthem playing, that would be fantastic.

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For all the people out there who said I would never make it, it has

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proved them wrong. It just shows that you can do it if you want it

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enough. And you work hard enough. You can. It is great stuff. The

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countdown has just begun but you can sense the excitement in this

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very pool and this is what the whole Paralympics to maintain will

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be based for three weeks of the build up. For now, back to the

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studio... I and many as two have not decided to jump in! Thank you

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very much. The opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Youth Games takes

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place on the Isle of Man this evening. Athletes from more than 60

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nations are competing and you can watch the ceremony live on the

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BBC's Isle of Man website from 7:15pm. And we will have a full

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report tomorrow night. If you in the Isle of Man, get out and

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support that. How's the weather It will be warm and rather wet. The

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weather is sometimes incredibly literal, people don't like these

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charts but they're great because you can see these isobars widely

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spaced. And you can see that we have warm fronts, and they bring us

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warm air. That is a feature of the weather to the next 24 others. You

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can see this Orange colour moving in but it doesn't make it into

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Cumbria and Lancashire. There is a real North - south divide. Through

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today, it has not been brilliant. But it could have been worse, some

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places have managed to stay dry all the way through. The showers have

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been piling into parts of Lancashire and Cumbria and through

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the afternoon they have died away but this is the latest picture, or

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coming through tonight. This is what the divide stars to come into

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play. The worst in the showers for parts of Cumbria and Lancashire and

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further south and many places will be largely dry, but completely so

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but tomorrow morning the showers will band together. Temperatures

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significant, 13 - 15 degrees. You can see a lot of cloud and some

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rain, mostly concentrated in the north. Further south and through

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the day tomorrow that will break, and when that happens, sunshine

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comes out, temperatures getting up to 22 Celsius. Back to you...

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Actor Dan Ackroyd, singer Gary Numan even scientist Albert

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Einstein. All people on the autistic spectrum. It's a serious

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and lifelong condition, but with the right support, those living

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with it can fulfill their potential and go on to achieve amazing things.

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People like Carly Ryan from Manchester. At just 25, Carly's

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amazing singing voice has featured in a TV talent show, taken her to

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New York's Carnegie Hall, and she's just been given a record deal. In

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the last of her special reports on autism, Kate Simms went to meet

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Carly. I did a tutorial. The first one... Catching up after a day at

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college. Carly's various accents help her to communicate. I then did

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English. She has got a loss of words but she finds trouble with

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understanding. She takes time to process language and then she

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delivers a speech. And yet Carly can do this. Summertime! And the

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living is easy! Carly's voice has taken her places she and her family

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never dreamt of. First on the BBC programme Autistic Superstars. Then

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to Carnegie Hall in New York to sing with stars at a celebration of

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the genius of autism. I sang and I sang in front of the audience.

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many people? Thousands! Did they like it? Yes! You've got me on my

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knees, and begging please... Carly is very confident on stage, but

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when I ask has a question she's not expecting, this happens. I don't

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think I want to! That's OK. I don't think I want to! A few minutes

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later, Carly is back, showing me her singing certificates. I was

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singing since I was four years old. It is, says her mum, normal Carly

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behaviour. Kylie is scared of getting things wrong. She thinks to

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herself, am I going to say the wrong thing? Will people understand

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me? Anxiety is way out. But Carly's not letting that stop her. She now

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has a record deal with the charity, The Heroes Project. She says, yes,

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I would love to be a pop star in a big, posh house and have servants!

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Watch this space! Amazing! And if you'd like to watch all of the

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stories in Kate's series about autism, they're available on our

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