13/09/2012 North West Tonight

Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Roger Johnson. And

Annabel Tiffin. Our top story. After the report, the fallout.

Resignation calls for the senior police officer who denies being

involved in the Hillsborough cover- Remaining defiant - Norman Bettison

repeats his claim that fans' behaviour made the police's job

harder. Utter rubbish. The police didn't do

their job, they bail that, the fans could crushed to death. We'll talk

to the senior MP who set up the Independent Review.

Also tonight: They're the golden couple of Paralympics GB, but why

is red the colour that makes the Storeys tick?

Meet the new sniffer dog who is always on her mettle in the fight

against crime. Left in a bag for the charity shop

- the story book with a fairytale Sir Norman Bettison has angered

Hillsborough campaigners with remarks about supporters' behaviour

on the day of the disaster. He says they made the job of police

officers hard. He was an officer in South Yorkshire at the time, and

this against -- again denied being part of a cover-up.

The Hillsborough campaigners have never liked Sir Norman Bettison.

When he was appointed chief constable of Merseyside in 1989,

they made their feelings known. Disgrace. Absolute disgrace. As an

officer in the South Yorkshire force before joining Merseyside,

he'd been part of a unit investigating - he says - the

police response to the disaster. The campaigners believed the unit's

job was simply to deflect criticism of the police. Here he is at

Hillsborough two years after the disaster, briefing officers before

another match and defending the South Yorkshire force against the

allegation that it had put crowd control before crowd safety on the

day of the disaster. We are now aware of the danger signs in the

crowd, and we are more safety conscious than we ever were, but

don't run away but the idea that safety was on the back-burner at

the time at the Hillsborough disaster. Now chief constable of

West Yorkshire, Sir Norman has angered Hillsborough campaigners

with his latest remarks on what His comments haven't gone down well

in Liverpool. After rubbish. -- utter rubbish. The police didn't do

their job. They baled out, innocent young lives were lost. It shouldn't

be up to him to resign, the government should just sack him,

simple as that. It is sad, because you saw yesterday that people felt

vindicated, it was there for everybody to see what had caused

the disaster, and yet now he has to come out and say that. It is the

mark of the man, the mark of South Yorkshire police as it was. When he

arrived in Liverpool in 1998, Sir Norman denied involvement in a

cover up. And today he reiterated Trevor Hicks, who lost two

daughters at Hillsborough, challenges that. He has been named

in the report, he has been singled out as one of the many people

involved in the smear campaign, and at the very least he should cease

to be Sir Norman, and if he has any sensitivity at all, I don't think

he has got very much, but if he has you will consider his position and

he will resign. The union, UNISON, has called for Sir Norman to be

stripped of his honorary fellowship at Liverpool's John Moores

University. The South Yorkshire force is considering reporting some

of its own officers to the Independent Police Complaints

Commission. 24 hours ago in Liverpool, a time to reflect and

take stock of the revelations in the new report. Today, the clamour

for action. Earlier I spoke to give a bat and

Pete Andy Vernon. Labour's Andy Burnham, who set up

the Hillsborough Independent Panel when he was in government, says

attitudes towards football fans did contribute to the way the tragedy

was handled. As the truth sinks in, I find it harder and harder to

accept, and I asked a question, how on earth did this place behind be

let this injustice stand for so long? All political parties need to

ask why they didn't do more to hold the Hillsborough families, and my

own political party included. It is a very worrying thing that we have

a report that shakes how faith in the institutions that are there to

serve this country, and people will look to to protect us, turning on

of the victims of a tragedy to protect themselves. Serious

questions have to be answered Cepeda can learn from this and have

that confidence. Your party has called for a criminal investigation,

do you feel now that criminal prosecutions must take place?

think there now needs to be justice and accountability within the South

Yorkshire police and the West Midlands police. The thing that

leapt out from the report for me was the taking of blood alcohol

levels for more of those bodies, including children. Running police

national computer criminal checks on the dead so that information

might be used to impugn their reputations, these things are

despicable. They back up what we have said all along, that an

orchestrated campaign was mounted almost immediately to shift blame

after police and on to the supporters. The effect of that has

been that Liverpool supporters who were there at Liverpool have been

walking around somehow hearing people say that they were to blame.

Finally, the supporters were emphatically clear, and that is

what was so important yesterday. Should Sir Norman Bettison resign?

I think he has serious questions to answer, as has other senior figures

in the police. It is not for me to sit in judgment on Sir Norman

Bettison, but it is for others to put in train there is necessary

investigations so the family can have the accountability they have

called for all these years. Thank you are joining us now. Today has

been a date of more recriminations and further apologies. Those who

were blamed in yesterday's report have in the last few hours faced

calls for further investigations. A number of public figures have

joined the Corus of saying sorry for the disaster and for the last

23 years, but has -- how has all this gone down with the family's?

Andy Gill is at Anfield now. South Yorkshire Police is considering

referring itself to the independent Police Complaints Commission, West

Yorkshire Police is getting a special committee to look at a role

of Sir Norman Bettison, we have had apologies from Boris Johnson in his

role as editor of the Spectator for an article he wrote, and we have

had apologies from other Conservative MPs. But one of the

issues the panel raised yesterday which is still resonating today is

the one where the panel said 41 people who died could potentially

have been saved if things had been done differently.

Fans were adding new tributes at the Hillsborough memorial today.

The original inquest assumed all named here had suffocated by 3.15pm.

But the independent panel said many victims had asphyxia which could

have been reversed. Rose Robinson's son Stephen was 17 when he died at

Hillsborough. It is distressing, but I am not going down that route,

because as far as I'm concerned, they told me he died of traumatic

asphyxiation and I don't know what happened after that. To go down

that road would be far too painful. Anne Williams has known for years

that her son Kevin was still alive at 4pm. I have always said, what

was done to Cabinet they have done to all of us. They were not all

dead by 3:15pm. 41, it is nothing but scandalous. That is nearly half

A Liverpool doctor who was at Hillsborough says it's a startling

figure. I haven't thought about it numerically in that way before, but

it does make sense. We know that the emergency response was totally

inadequate. 41 souls on the conscience of senior public figures.

The panel chose their words carefully, saying it was impossible

to say whether a more effective emergency response would have saved

the life of any one individual. But the possibility that there might be

41 fewer names here is one that has caused real shock. After all those

years, it would be heartbreaking to find out that lives could have been

saved, it is disgraceful to stop there have been robbed of their

little ones, haven't they? It could take weeks before a decision on new

inquests. But the revelation about the 41 has added to calls for that

to be speeded up. We are joined by Parry, whose son died at

Hillsborough when he was 18. When you heard that 41 people might have

been saved, what did you think? think the vast majority of people

were shocked and saddened that a lot of a loved ones could be at

home now I'm not part of this scenario. It was very upsetting,

three people collapsed in the room and one person collapsed -- fainted

from shock. This is the evidence that has been produced by the

independent panel, we have to accept that evidence as a damning

indictment of the South Yorkshire police force and their failure to

act early, quickly, and implement the emergency plan. Do you think

that it means that the inquest, the new inquest, should be speeded up?

I am not too sure about that. The papers have got to be sent away to

the Attorney General, he has got to examine them and make the

recommendation. This could be many months away. It is going to be

dependent on the weight of evidence, and if it is very good, I'm

confident that the Attorney-General will pass it on to the High Court

and hopefully they will inturned say -- over to the accidental death

verdict. Thank you for your time. Back to you. Liverpool scriptwriter

Jimmy McGovern wrote the drama- documentary "Hillsborough" in 1996,

interviewing many of the families of the victims for his research.

The BBC's Judith Moritz spoke to him for a special documentary being

shown this weekend. She started by asking him about the impact

Hillsborough had had on Merseyside. An impact that people elsewhere

sometimes struggled to understand. You're not going to move on until

everybody has been held to account. You're not going to move on until

you have had a full explanation as to how your child died. And the

procedures that are supposed to help you, when the procedures that

are supposed to help you, particularly an inquest, actually

stops at a point immediately before he or she died, then you are going

to be annoyed. The Hillsborough families have had a bellyful of law.

But they have never had to justice. Can you explain to a wider audience

why this is an issue which has really got under the skin of

Liverpudlians, not just those who were there or personally bereaved,

but members of this community who feel it has a collective feeling?

Things like the boycott of the Sun macro, the crowds turning out for

the memorial services, it goes be on the families of the 96. It does,

remember that when these people died, when 96 people died, the

South Yorkshire police said to themselves, they are football

supporters, they are just scum. And the families will be the family's

other scum, they might kick up a fuss for a while but they will go

away. 23 years later, they have not gone away, they are still battling.

Every minute that passes is a demonstration of love. These were

wonderful people, and they were loved. So this ongoing campaign, I

think, has been a massive demonstration of enduring Love.

Truth and justice, yes, but loved above all.

And you can see more of what Jimmy McGovern had to say in that

documentary on the BBC News Channel The third victim in the Surrey

coach crash has been named locally as 23-year-old Kerry Ogden from

Maghull. The bus left the carriageway on the A3 and hit a

tree on its way back to Merseyside on Monday night. Driver Colin

Daulby from Warrington and 18-year- old Michael Molloy from Woolton

were also killed in the incident. Surrey Police have confirmed 10

other passengers are still in hospital.

Professor Sid Watkins from Liverpool, who was at the forefront

of Formula 1 safety for more than 30 years, has died aged 84. The

neurosurgeon was the trackside doctor, and is credited with saving

the lives of several grand prix drivers after heavy crashes.

A Manchester MP says an enquiry into airports in the UK should

consider the possibility of expanding up North. A wide-ranging

review into aviation has been launched by the Commons Transport

Committee. Lib Dem MP for Withington, John Leech, says the

enquiry should seriously consider alternatives to yet another hub in

London. The Isle of Man's mobile library

service has restarted, after government cuts threatened it with

closure. It's been described as a lifeline for the island's elderly

and more remote communities. The Manx Education Foundation is

funding it for the next three years. Workers at the defence company BAE

Systems in Lancashire have been told their company might merge with

another massive defence company EADS, based in France. It's not yet

clear what the job implications are. But one MP says it's crucial the

military aircraft division remains based in Lancashire. Our political

editor Arif Ansari reports. The Eurofighter Typhoon - a

powerful symbol of co-operation between BAE Systems and EADS. But

this is an anxious time for the 11,000 workers in Lancashire as

they work out the implications of a merger. -- 10,000. If the

headquarters it remains a Lancashire, then I will be broadly

supportive of this, and I have made it clear to the company. But my

support is conditional on seeing the head quotas and intellectual

property and the jobs that go with it remain here. BAE Systems is

worth about 15 billion euros. EADS is a Franco German company worth

Boeing at 41 billion. But if the two European companies merge,

Not only that, but EADS builds the hugely successful airbus. Experts

say that could be good for workers at BAE Systems. Bringing them

together will mean that the company can not be too worried if he

doesn't get a particular order, it can be able to keep other factory

going by servicing part of this much larger company, so it might

safeguard jobs. But this deal has major security implications. It

needs clearance from various governments before take off.

They were the golden couple of the Paralympics, and today Sarah and

Barney Storey said they're still taking in what they've achieved.

Sarah came away with four cycling gold medals. Husband Barney, one

gold and one silver. And today they were back at their training base at

the Manchester Velodrome, proudly wearing their medals. Our sports

reporter Richard Askam caught up with them.

Over the line! A brilliant time! A new world record! Is it enough? Yes

it is a! So many great numbers, it is about putting the ball into

context now, it is about enjoying them, we have been so busy, we

haven't had a chance to have a drink. The response can yesterday,

on the ride week deed, we were in a village and there were it to lucky

ladies who came running across, I was hiding around a corner try to

shelter from the rain, and they were so excited to see me, covered

in mud, when to have recognised myself, to be honest! They wanted

to have a photograph. It was so brilliant. You can't be covered in

mud, you worry star now! I was bullied by the end of it! You are

both competing at the top level, which a view is more likely to be

talking about cycling at the breakfast table? We do talk about

other things, but cycling is a passion. I do talk about football.

You might be on the pitch at some point! I hope so! We are going on

Saturday! I was a Manchester United season ticket holder one by met

Barney, so he more or less proposed on the spot. I was always going

with one of my best mate, when she moved to Devon I was like, I can

find a different person, then I met him and he couldn't believe his

luck! Where would you keep all those medals? They fancy a holiday

and a drink, I can't blame them. A retired police dog handler from

Lancashire has trained his black labrador to be able to sniff out

stolen items which have been kept in scrapyard. She is a very clever

dog. She is thought to be the first sniffer dog to be able to do this.

Her owner, Mike, claims it is a major breakthrough in tackling a

client -- crime that costs the country millions every year.

This nose could help save millions of Pounds and put metal thieves

behind bars. It belongs to the first detection dog in the world to

be trained to sniff out stolen a call. -- stone and metal. She is --

she has a unique DNA code. This has been placed on a piece of copper

piping, it has been on the piping for about two months, this is a

basic set up training exercise, we will put this in the board at there.

Then it is up to the doctor do her stuff of. In tests, she has an

impressive success rate. Good girl! At the moment the police use UV

lamps, but she makes the job easy. Now researchers don't need to have

the line of sight with the marker, she can detected whether it is

upside down, inside out, at the bottom of the skip. Therefore it

makes the search a lot more effective, a lot quicker, a lot

more cost-effective, and hopefully be will be able to recover more

metal. Several police forces and private companies are said to be

watching her efforts for the growing interest.

She is going to be in demand! There we love a good dog story.

As fairy tales go, this is a good one. A rare first edition of a

Peter Pan novel has been found amongst a bag full of old books at

a charity shop in Cheshire. It dates from the early days of last

century and includes some beautiful illustrations from one of the

Edwardian era's most proclaimed artists. The book's up for auction

this weekend and experts think it might fetch hundreds of pounds.

This from our Cheshire reporter, Mark Edwardson.

A magical find. JM Barrie's classic "Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens",

printed in 1906. But mystery surrounds the identity of the donor

who left it at Oxfam in Alderley Edge. It was just in a bin bag, he

didn't look auspicious, the first thing I took out of it was this

lovely book. Have you any idea who this man was? No idea, just a

generous customer! It's the tale of Peter Pan as a baby. Here Peter Pan

is a special boy confused by his talent for flight and friendships

with fairies. It is an exquisite book. It is bound, beautifully

illustrated. Clearly bought for somebody very special, but who was

that? My imagine it was bought as a gift, probably for a child. I

wonder if they appreciated what they had! The book's very much of

its time - the then-King, Edward VII makes an appearance - and

there's a possible a reference to Edwardian international relations.

The volume is being auctioned this Sunday. It is a first edition, it

is signed by the illustrator, a very famous illustrator. So it has

everything going for it from a collector's point of view. I don't

think we will want to be selling it for less than �500. 100 years ago,

a child would have used it to learn to read. Oxfam says the auction

proceeds will help children with the same aspiration, in the

developing world. What an amazing find. I love a good

rummage in a charity shop. I do! You can find some good things in

charity shops! Not what a man wearing today!

I am stunned that he would even point in her direction!

I was going to say... I have never found anything quite that good,

As we move into September, we have already had a bit of everything,

record-breaking temperatures, it was very warm last weekend, last

night, it was really quite chilly, tonight an entirely different

picture. You will be up in double figures. If you're looking ahead to

the weekend, most of us are, Saturday looks like being the good

one. Sunday will see a band of rain gradually creeping towards us.

Today has been all about the cloud cover, but it is only half the

story. Rain will be in the forecast as we go through the night to night.

You have these huge amount of cloud cover over the next couple of hours,

then align of rain will work its way in, and the wind will be the

real teacher. It will be picking up through the night, it could be

gusting up to 50 mph. So tonight, drizzly rain, and strong winds, all

these things conspired to keep the temperatures up to stop --. When

you get up tomorrow morning, that wind will continue to be quite

ghastly, but it changes direction back to being a north-westerly. The

cloud cover is with you, there might be a break in the cloud cover,

but then this showery rain worked its way through. It will be all

over the place, but as you progress through the day, the showers

gradually die away. There to be a glimpse of sunshine as you head

towards teatime. -- there could be. Saturday, nothing happening, looks

like being the best day of the What do they say, people in glass