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London. If you want more details, you can head to our website. Now on

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BBC One we join Good evening. Welcome to NorthWest

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Tonight with Annabel Tiffin and Roger Johnson. Our top storx: The

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?70 million cocaine smuggling operation foiled by police before

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the drugs flooded the streets of Liverpool. One of the gang, Ian

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Stanton, was today jailed for 1 years.

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Also tonight: The fatal plane crash en route to Everest ` an inpuest

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hears how four local men didd in Nepal.

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Survivors of the lightning storm ` the Cheshire family who walked away

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unharmed from this. And the cup glory in Claret `

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I heard a bang, a big noise, and it was completely like that. And some

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residents are calling in thd bin tax here in Pendle. They will soon have

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to pay to have their green waste taken away.

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And the cup glory in Claret ` celebrations to mark the 100th

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anniversary of a famous Burnley victory.

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They'd planned to flood the streets of Liverpool with cocaine worth more

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than ?70 million. But their plot was foiled by pure chance. Police

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stumbled across the drugs dtring a routine dockside check. Offhcers

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then launched a sting of thdir own to catch the gang. Today, two of the

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men involved in what's been described as a very sophisthcated

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operation were jailed. They join others of their number who're

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already locked up. But as otr chief reporter Dave Guest explains, the

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mastermind behind the plan remains at large.

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This container was supposedly packed with frozen beef from Argentina It

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had travelled from Buenos Ahres to Tilbury docks last May. But when

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officials decided to check the meat for signs of E coli, they got far

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more than they bargained for. Stashed inside were more th`n a

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dozen holdalls stuffed with blocks of cocaine worth in excess of ? 0

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million. Over 400 kilograms of cocaine, high`purity, cut cocaine.

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As a result of that, the National Crime Agency took on the

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investigation. But the gang didn't know thdy'd been

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caught out. So officers filled the holdalls with bricks and thd

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consignment was sent on to hts intended destination, a cold store

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in Wigan. When James Mossman collected a couple of those

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holdalls, he soon realised the stash was gone, but didn't realisd the

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police had it. It became apparent that the individual behind the

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actual invitation believed they had been ripped up by another crime

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group. So this man, Ian Stanton, w`s called

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in to organise a search and recovery operation. He and associates met on

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a retail park at Aintree to discuss tactics, unaware their everx move

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was being monitored by the police. During that meeting, it was quite

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apparent that the criminal gang were intent on using extreme violence to

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identify the individuals behind the rip`off, if you will.

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Completely unaware that these drugs were in the possession of the

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police? Absolutely. Gary Keating and Francis Oakford

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were at that meeting. They `nd Mossman are all now serving jail

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terms. Stanton fled to Holl`nd, but was tracked down and extradhted last

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December. Today, he got 12 xears for conspiracy to supply cocaind. Beside

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him in the dock at Liverpool today, Anthony Short. He'd been involved in

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importing the drugs and was sent down for 22 years. Judge Al`n Conrad

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QC said this had been a sophisticated plot to import a huge

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quantity of drugs into the TK. He said it was obvious that St`nton and

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his associates had the determination to discover what had happendd to

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their consignment, to track it down, and then distribute it.

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But two of the men involved in that meeting at Aintree are still on the

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run. Anthony Saunderson and David McDermott are thought to be

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overseas. Meanwhile, the iddntity of the mastermind who had over`ll

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control of the drugs import`tion plan is as yet unknown.

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the daughter of one of the lost well known Hillsborough campaigndrs has

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told the new inquests into the disaster of her mother's relentless

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determination to find the truth Sara Williams was speaking `bout her

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mother Anne, who died last xear Anne Williams lost her 15`ydar`old

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son Kevin in the disaster in 19 9. Today the inquest heard personal

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tributes to ten more of the 96 victims, including Kevin Williams.

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Andy Gill was in court. Sara Williams came to Warrington

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knowing she faced a emotion`lly gruelling appearance in court.

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Sara's brother Kevin was just a teenager when he was killed. His

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mum, Anne, from Crosby, wagdd a lengthy legal battle against the

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decision at the original inpuests not to hear evidence about what

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happened after 3:15 on the day of the disaster. She felt the response

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of the emergency services h`dn't been examined. Anne died from cancer

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three days after attending last year's Hillsborough memorial

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service. Today Sara Williams said this of her brother.

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That statement that Sara made was perfect. He was such a

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happy`go`lucky lad, mischievous bright, good`looking lad.

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The jury also hard another tribute to Eric Hankin from his father Eric

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Senior. He read his statement for us afterwards.

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I feel very hurt and cheated that I've lost my son at the young age of

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33, with all his life still in front of him. I love my son, and H miss

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him every day. Among other tributes, the jtry also

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heard about the oldest victhm, 67`year`old Gerard Baron from

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Preston. His son, also Gerard, was at the match with him. Gerard Baron

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Junior said he and his fathdr expected to be safe at a

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high`profile football match, and not, as he put it, "witness hell

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before their eyes". He said the last thing he said to his father was

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"You'll be OK." "How wrong H was," he said. There'll be more tributes

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tomorrow. Michael Adebolajo has launched an

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appeal against his life sentence for the murder of the soldier Lde Rigby.

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Fusilier Rigby, who was frol Middleton, was killed outside the

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Woolwich Barracks in May last year. The trial judge said the barbaric

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nature of the murder justifhed a whole life sentence.

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A review into part of the Isle of Man's health service has fotnd that

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less than 50% quality stand`rds were met. The emergency department,

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theatres, anaesthetics and critical care were all looked into. @reas of

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concern included a shortage of staff and trauma management.

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National Museums Liverpool will shut six venues for a day later this

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month. The closure on April 24th is for staff to be briefed on cuts The

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organisation says its budget has been cut by nearly a third over the

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past four years and more job losses are needed.

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More details have been given of the Giants' return to Liverpool this

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summer. It's one of the country s main World War One commemor`tions.

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The girl and her dog will vhsit Kensington and Newsham Park, taking

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the performance outside the city centre.

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A father whose twin daughters were delivered by a doctor who dhed

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trying to save her son from drowning has said it's no surprise she died a

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hero. Uma Ramalingam was a consultant obstetrician at Royal

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Oldham Hospital and has helped bring hundreds of children safely into the

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world. Tributes have been p`id today, describing the 42`ye`r`old as

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caring and inspirational. Abbie Jones reports.

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Identical twins Grace and Lhly Mae Wilson are happy and healthx. But it

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was a high risk pregnancy for parents Adam and Zoe from Rochdale.

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They saw Dr Uma Ramalingam dvery fortnight until she deliverdd their

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daughters. It's no surprise to me that she was doing something heroic.

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She was fantastic with thesd. She was obviously an expert in what she

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did, excellent at her job, `nd we were all a bit upset, last night,

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because she had a big part hn these being born. Dr Ramalingam, from

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Altrincham, was on a family holiday in Tenerife. She drowned along with

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a relative after trying to rescue their two children off the coast of

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Playa Paraiso. Today it emerged the death is the second tragedy to hit

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the family. Dr Ramalingam's first husband, her son's father, was

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killed in a road accident in 20 7. In Tenerife, an investigation has

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now been opened by the police and civil guard. It's just shows you the

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power of the see. I gather the children were standing on rocks not

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far from the sea and were hht by large ways that came across the top

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of it. We are all very shocked to know what happened, and to hear

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about this tragedy. It was only the second day into the group's holiday.

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Today, those she'd helped p`id tribute to her on social media.

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Donella O'Donnell wrote: "I am Adam and his wife say they will

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always be grateful for the care they and their daughters received.

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A campaign to give women earlier access to cervical screening moved a

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step closer today. It comes after the death of Merseyside teenager

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Sophie Jones, who died from the illness aged 19. At the momdnt, the

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age for routine smear tests is 5, but almost 320,000 people h`ve

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signed an online petition asking for that to be reviewed. Today, the MP

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Steve Rotheram presented thd case for a full debate on the issue.

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Earlier I asked him, that whth so many people signing the pethtion, if

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there was any doubt that such a debate would go ahead.

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Well, unfortunately, there hs still doubt. The decision by the committee

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won't be known until tomorrow. I put forward a very strong case saying

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that it should be in the mahn chamber and not in Westminster Hall.

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The main chamber debate means that we could put forward a motion that

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can go to a vote, and that's after all what the family have asked for

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and certainly what the camp`igners believe, by signing the pethtion,

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they'll get. A lot of medic`l experts believe it has little or no

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impact on the rates of cervhcal cancer by lowering that scrdening

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age, and if anything, it can cause more harm to those girls. I think

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what the argument that was put forward today would be, that it s

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routine screening for all pdople under 25, and that's not wh`t the

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family have called for, and that's not what the campaigners have signed

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a petition about. It is that if anybody under that age belidves that

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they've got some sort of sylptoms that could lead them to belheve that

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they've got the condition, that they have the right to ask for a smear,

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and that's all there is, re`lly That's why I think that if we can

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get this debate, the governlent will be forced to act upon it. So that is

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quite an important point to make, then, isn't it, that you're not

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actually calling for the agd of routine screening to be brotght down

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to 16, just for those that request it? In Sophie's case, what happened

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is, she went to the GP and was denied the opportunity to h`ve a

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smear test. A smear test obviously would have found that she w`s

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suffering from cervical cancer, and if you catch it early enough, her

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life could have been saved. All the parents want is to ensure that

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nobody else has to go through what they have been through with the loss

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of their child. Thank you vdry much for joining us.

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Interesting thoughts there. Still to come: A bolt from the blue. It must

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have been really scary. We need the Cheshire family who survived the

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chaos of a lightning strike. I heard a bang, a big, big noise, and it was

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completely dark. And Doobie Sturridge Liverpool star striker

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surprises young fans and te`ches them his famous goal celebr`tion.

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He has been practising! The family of a man from Chdshire

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who died in a plane crash in Nepal has told an inquest he would not

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have flown if he had been aware of the country's air safety record

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Timothy Oakes was one of seven British tourists killed in the crash

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in 2012. Four of them were from the North West, including Mr Oakes. Mark

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Edwardson reports from the hnquest in Warrington.

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It was September 28, 2012, when a twin engine turboprop operated by

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Caesar airlines, crashed at Kathmandu airport in Nepal.

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On`board, tourists looking forward to a trekking holiday near the base

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camp of Mount Everest. Everxone on board was killed, including Vincent

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and Alan Kelly from Bolton, Timothy Oakes from Warrington, and Raymond

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Eagle from Macclesfield. Inpuests are being held here at Warrhngton

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town hall, and the issue of the poor air safety record of the airline has

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been important. Relatives h`ve said that if the deceased had known about

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this, he would never have flown His widow Angela said, he loved

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adventure, but he loved his family more. The inquest in Warrington also

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heard about the possible catses for the crash, from UK investig`tors.

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There had been a bird strikd, but that was ruled out as a cause. While

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the plane overloaded? Not according to official documentation. `` it is

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thought it was probable, however, saying it is common practicd for

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Nepalese passengers to take cash for an extra bag or two without the

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knowledge of the pilot. One even admitted he noted he had bedn lied

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to join the investigation. The tour firm said it had switched to the

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airline after its previous carrier suffered an accident. Quizzdd by

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families and representatives at length, its spokeswoman said the

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firm had now stop using Nep`lese carriers, but only since thdy were

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blacklisted by the EU at thd end of last year. What actually happened to

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that flight may never be known, but before rising to consider hhs

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conclusion, the coroner stated that this was the most comprehensive

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investigation he had encountered in the 21 years of his current job

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A family from Crewe have bedn forced to leave their home after lhghtning

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struck, wrecking much of thd house. As a powerful electric currdnt

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surged through the property, sockets were blown off the walls, and holes

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were burnt into the floor. The damage will take months to repair.

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Stuart Flinders reports. Broken windows, hold in the roof. It

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must have been quite a storl. I heard a bang, a big, big nohse, and

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it was completely dark. This man was on the phone when power surged

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through the walls, burning ` hole through the floor next to where he

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stood. So that is your. 's bowl and that was struck by the lightning?

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Yes. What is funniest is, mx dog was here. Your dog was there? Hd was

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sleeping. Did he wait? Definitely! The dog appeared to have recovered

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from the shock. You can see where the lightning smashed through the

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roof of the loft there, and the current has travelled through the

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ceilings and walls, wrecking and forcing nails and screws out of the

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walls. A new roof, new windows, new electrics. The insurers say it will

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be three to four months before the family can move back in. How are the

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children? As my husband told me they were just screaming and hiding

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under the blankets. What ard the chances of your house being struck

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by lightning? Smaller than winning the lottery. I bet you would rather

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do that! Yeah! The family are currently staying in a hotel,

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shocked but glad to be alivd. Absolutely terrifying.

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Some residents in Pendle ard calling it the bin tax. From June, they ll

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have to pay an extra ?25 a xear if they want their green bins dmptied.

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The borough council says it's because of budget cuts. Lots of you

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have got in touch. We will read your e`mails at the end of the programme.

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They're the latest council to introduce the fee, and say those who

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opt out of the scheme will have to recycle garden waste themselves Our

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environment correspondent Jtdy Hobson reports.

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Residents in Foulridge near Colne had their green bins emptied for

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free this morning. From Jund, that will all change. Harry is a keen

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gardener and regularly fills his green bin. He doesn't think the

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council should start charging for taking his garden waste awax. In

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principle, I think they havd a bit of a nerve. An extra charge for

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this, what can there be an dxtra charge for next? Pendle Borough

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Council says it has no choice. The ?25 annual charge won't makd them a

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profit, but will cover the cost of the service. That service w`s

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provided in the heyday of local government spending, when money was

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being thrown from central government. It is not any more. You

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have to save money, but what will people do with their green waste?

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They will either choose to take up the service for the extra ?25 per

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year, compost it at home, or take it one of our recycling centres. But

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the County Council closed the nearest recycling centre at Colne,

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so that option would be a shx`mile round trip. I think we will probably

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actually just pay it, because we don't have the time to make a trip

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to the local tip every two weeks. At the moment, we cut the grass, so I

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suspect we will be begrudgingly pay it. Karen Clark doesn't havd a green

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bin. She says the council rdfused to collect it because she lives in a

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remote area. She thinks the new charge is fair. I think it hs not

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before time. We have never had a green refuse collection, from when

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it was first introduced. My argument with the council was, why are we

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paying for something we don't get? I think it is only fair that hf people

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wanted, they pay for it. Thd council say they are not considering cuts to

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other bin collections. Lots of you have been in totch, as I

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said, about this issue. We will read some e`mails at the end of the

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programme. First, let's get some sports news.

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Tranmere manager Ronnie Moore has admitted a Football Association

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charge of misconduct and repuested a personal hearing. The 61`ye`r`old

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was suspended by the club in February and was last week charged

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over "multiple breaches" of betting rules. A statement on Rovers'

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website revealed the club whll review Moore's position at Prenton

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Park over the next 24 hours. Crickets next, and the openhng day

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of Lancashire's match and Nottinghamshire. The first latch of

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their return to the top flight is proving to be testing. They shot out

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for just 144 in their first innings. Nottingham cracked 271st tile

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around, leading the visitors needing a large total to win, and I suspect,

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praying for rain. Some sad news for Everton f`ns.

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Sandy Brown, part of the 1970 League Championship winning side, has died

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aged 75. Sandy Brown was signed from Partick Thistle in 1963 and played

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251 times for the Blues. Wayne Rooney is expected to play for

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Manchester United against B`yern Munich in their quarterfinal

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tomorrow. He trained this morning, having been absent at the wdekend

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with a with a bruised toe. No truth in the rumour that he droppdd his

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pay packet on it! Burnley might well be just ` few

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games away from promotion to the Premier League. But the distance

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between them and winning thd famous FA Cup has reached an incredible 100

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years. The Clarets last picked up the famous old trophy in April 914,

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just a few months before thd start of the First World War. A ndw

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exhibition at Towneley Hall has been telling fans all about it.

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For Clarets fans, these memories are pure gold. April 20 five, 1814.

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Burnley take on Liverpool in the last final to be played at the

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Crystal Palace. They win 1`0. The goal was scored by Bert Fredman His

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winner 's medal is till herd, and so is the fading shirt he wore. Just to

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think that the goal`scorer `ctually wore that shirt will stop absolutely

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fantastic. That final was played when Boots were sturdy and shin pads

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were built to last. It was played within a few months of the start of

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the great War. Shortly after lifting the cup, footballers became foot

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soldiers. Some of the players actually went off in servicd, and

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they did die. Edward Hodgson was a member of the 1914 cup winndrs. He

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went off on active service, and by the end of the war, he had caught an

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infection, and that resulted in his death. The 1914 final was the first

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to be attended by the reignhng monarch, King George V. Burnley s

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should then bought a special crest which will reappear the end of this

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season. It is the royal crest, which we have special permission from the

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palace to use, so we will bd putting that on for the Ipswich homd game,

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our final game of the season. Hopefully celebrating promotion

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Obviously, I can't say the P word, but you never know! Speaking as a

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Burnley fan, it may never h`ppen again that Burnley win the FA Cup,

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so a display like this is tremendous. I was reading that

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apparently all the factories and schools close on the day afterwards

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to celebrate. There will be many hoping for a similar promothon party

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very soon. They are still enjoying the glory

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days in Burnley! People in the glory days back then probably just

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celebrated by shaking hands, but these day they're often renowned for

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their extravagant goal celebrations. Peter Crouch had the robot. Lomana

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Lua Lua did somersaults. Liverpool striker Daniel Sturridge has a

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unique dance of his own. And pupils at a school in Anfield got real

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surprise when he popped in to give them some pointers. Have a look at

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this. Hello. I am a Liverpool fan. My

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favourite player is Daniel Sturridge.

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I have my own celebration. Ly own celebration is a front flip.

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What is happening? URI? I think his goal celebration is really fun. What

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are you doing, like a five? What is happening, player? How are xou

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doing? You're right? I think you have to do it better though. In my

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opinion, I think you have to get into it a little bit more. Why did

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you come to Liverpool? Becatse of you. What a charmer!

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Is he there? I don't know what he was doing.

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And you can see the full ephsode of Daniel Sturridge's visit to that

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school on LFCTV's Kop Kids, which is on Thursday and Friday this week.

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I'm sure you could do a better job! Right, Diane, now for the wdather.

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Good evening. A blustery dax today. That wind was really roaring, really

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quite cold, giving a wintry feel to the weather. Good news in the next

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few days, particularly towards the weekend. High`pressure returns, and

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things should be quiet and lore settled. A relatively fine spell.

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This is how it looks right now. The wind went down through the

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afternoon, with temperatures around 11 degrees. It felt OK eventually,

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but the morning was pretty raw. This is how it looks through the night.

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Over the next few hours, thd cloud cover will come and go, so ht is

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50`50. If you see any long breaks, you could have temperatures falling

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to around two or three degrdes. For most towns and cities, they are a

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lot better, temperatures of around six and seven. First thing hn the

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morning, we are looking at ` north`south divide. Anywherd to the

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south of the river rebel, you should be dry. Anywhere to the north, there

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is a line of weather coming in temporarily first thing tomorrow

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morning, so part of the Isld of Man, Cumbria and northern Lancashire will

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start the day with rain arotnd. Everywhere else should be dry but

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fairly cloudy. It is an improving picture. He high`pressure area

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manages to push that weather system out of the way through the day, so

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dry, brighter skies started spreading to Cumbria, Lancashire and

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the Isle of Man. To the south, cloud cover will take some time bdfore it

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thins and breaks, but eventtally it will, and you might not see a

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massive amount of sunshine, but the winds are lighter than todax, when

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they were 30 to 40 miles now. Tomorrow, a quiet today, so it will

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look OK, and we will be tot`lly about 12 and 13. Rain for Thursday,

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but high`pressure returns after that and things that'll down.

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I am getting excited! Thank you very much. We have had plenty of e`mails

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and comments about the storx about the charges for emptying grden waste

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bins. One review essays, just because some houses don't h`ve

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gardens, that is no reason to charge. I have no children, but have

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the paper Children's Servicds. Another says, I think it is right to

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charge people to pay for thhs. People in flats generally are less

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affluent than people in houses. Hillary says, we had to takd green

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waste to take a mile away, but that is now closed. Now they want to

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charge for taking away wastd we can't take ourselves. And Rdbecca

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Wilkins says, people will jtst end up filling their normal reftse bins

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with green waste if there's goes ahead. I suppose the Warriors, if it

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is garden waste, people think that it is all right, and fly`tipping it.

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We are not suggesting that. We are, however, sending someone on our team

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to a South American geography course tonight. Good night.

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