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Welcome to BBC Points West with Alex Lovell and David Garmston.
He's confronted by a worshipper after talking about trade deals
on alcohol inside a Sikh Temple in Brisitol.
I don't want alcohol. I'm a practising Sikh. To me, that is
absolutely outrageous. Mr Johnson says he was
making a good point. We'll have the latest
on the election campaign. Rough justice. A soldier
from Wiltshire is trapped by paedophile hunters on
his way to a non-existent date. The new housing estate where
the homes appear very different from the terms of
the planning consent. And journey's end - the fan from
Austrialia who turned up for the There's been criticism of
Boris Johnson after an uncomfortable He was taken to task for talking
about boosting sales of alcohol Members of the community were also
unhappy with other aspects Here's our political
editor, Paul Barltrop. But plenty of phones recorded
what happened at the Sikh What started as a standard
political visit To deliver a strong and table
approach to those... about boosting sales
of whisky to India. Their religion
disapproves of alcohol. When I heard that on the news, I was
like, no way am I going to vote Tory. I don't want alcohol. I'm a
practising Sikh. To me, that's outrageous.
Later, a discussion about foreign affairs caused further friction.
We think there is no more evidence to be produced. Are I don't think
that's a very good answer. The Foreign Secretary's visit
clearly didn't go well. Surprise the way it was handled. He
did manage somehow. Could have been handled a little bit better. People
are not happy about that. Not too many happy. Because, everybody wants
some help there. It wasn't very useful? I think so, yeah. Not too
many people happy about this. Up the road in Yate,
he was on easier ground at a cafe - the day's only event where TV
cameras were allowed. He was reluctant, but eventually
explained what had happened earlier. I think, if I remember correctly, he
she said she'd some personal experience of alcohol abuse within
her family. I said I was sorry to hear about her own circumstances.
That was the issue. There was a clear political significance to
today's visit. This temple is in Bristol East, a Labour constituency
the Tories would have much like to take. The visit shows their
determination to hold on to a seat with the west ease smallest
majority. As is so often the case with Boris Johnson, the atension was
on other things. And this is what they'd
hoped today's visit - but instead became
another Boris moment. Joining me now from St George
is the person who challenged Boris Johnson on today's visit
to the Sikh Temple, Balbir Kaur. For coming on the programme. Why
were you so offended? Sorry, I didn't hear you. Why were you so
offended by what Mr Johnson said? Basically, he was standing inside
the prayer room next to the holy book. He was promoting, selling
alcohol to India. Doing free trade with India. It shocked me because
he's in a temple which promotes no alcohol. Sikhism abhors alcohol at
all times. Alcohol is not good for you. Also, the fact alcohol... Sorry
to interrupt. It is doing so much damage already in India. There's so
much people dying of alcoholism. The Indian Government is buying alcohol
from Britain and then giving it away free to buy votes. Let me put the
other side of the story to you, if I could. He'd covered his head, taken
off his shoes. He was trying to respectful and not all Sikhs ban
alcohol. Many Sikhs in Britain enjoy it and in India, billions of litres
of the stuff are sold? It's not consumed by baptised Sikhs. He was
in our temple which is about Sikhism. Alcohol is not something
you will promote. If he wanted to talk about alcohol, he could have
talked somewhere else. He should have made it apparent to the people
who arranged this meeting, they should have done it outside the
temple. It is not a place where they should be discussing alcohol.
Especially to promote it. If he was saying they were doing something
about stopping alcohol, I would have no objection. But it was the fact he
was actually promoting it and he was promoting it to the fact of asking
people to vote for them so they can do free trade with India so they can
sell more and get more people drunk and let more people die. It needs to
be stopped not just in India but in England as well. Governments should
be standing against alcoholism not promoting it. Anybody who wants to
vote for the Tories, who want to do free trade with any country with
alcohol, should not be voted for. We're fighting against a bad line
with you. We'll leave it there. Thank you for coming on the
programme. Nice to see you. Thank you.
And tomorrow, we're on the election trail again.
This time in Cheltenham, a seat the Lib Dems
would very much like to win back from the Conservatives.
So, if you spot me and the sofa, come over and have a chat.
A soldier from Wiltshire has admitted attempting to meet a child
after being trapped by a vigilante detective.
Private Sam Dallow thought he'd been chatting to a 14-year-old girl
online and arranged to meet her at a train station.
But when he arrived, he found he'd been set-up.
It's the latest case to use evidence gathered by groups
calling themselves Paedophile Hunters.
their work has been heavily criticised by the police.
What are you doing here? Waiting for a friend.
Private Sam Dallow says he was waiting for a friend -
But really he was waiting for what he thought was a 14
-year-old girl he'd been chatting to online.
That girl was actually Shane Brannigan -
He poses as underage girls on the internet then tricks
paedophiles into meeting him - before handing them
You're scum. You are a disgusting individual.
This meeting at a train station was all streamed live on Facebook -
and then uploaded to Shane Brannigan's website
It's the latest case to use evidence gathered by paedophile hunters.
Shane Brannigan was posing as a young girl. As part of his work,
Shane Brannigan printed those messages off and handed them over to
police alongside the video of his meeting with Dalow. It's that
evidence that's led Dalow to an offence of meeting a child. Dalow
will be back on June 8th for sentencing. The judge said maximum
credit will be given for admitting the offence but to expect a
custodial sentence. It's the latest case to use evidence
gathered by paedophile hunters. There's now at least 15
of these groups in Britain. The vigilantes say they're
helping out police forces - claiming their budgets
are at breaking point - by doing the detective work
detectives are unable They've no money, resources, no
funding. There isn't enough people in the teams to do this. Leave it to
people like me who care about the investigation.
But the police are critical of these amateur detectives.
They say they can jeopardise ongoing investigations giving paedophiles
And their actions can have other consequences -
This sting by paedophile hunters in Essex caused this mass
brawl outside a shopping centre on Easter Sunday -
they are taking the law into their own hands
and they are taking in my view risks that are simply not acceptable
and the risks that they are posing to children
are simply inappropriate" As tonight Sam Dallow
begins his sentence in prison - caught by another paedophile hunter
- the debate about the vigilantes and their work continues.
A wet Wednesday, and you're watching BBC Points West.
Stay with us, as there's much more still to bring you tonight.
We find out how gloucestershire students duped journalists
And the rain will depart. Tomorrow is much brighter and drier. Details
towards the end of the programme. A new housing development in Bristol
has been pulled from the market as Three-bedroom homes were supposed
to be built on the site in Bridgwater Road - but instead
four-bed houses have appeared, Now the council is considering
whether to pull the buildings down. These are three and
four bedroom homes. The thing is, the developer,
Highridge Homes, only has permission The planning application shows
what they're supposed to look like. The reality is very different -
they're taller, and include dormers Catherine Withers says
no-one locally is against What they are against is
the developers being allowed to get We're desperately disappointed
with Bristol City Council, with the actions of the planning
department. I got in touch with enforcement
and we thought there's be some action in 10 days -
no action was taken. For one resident, though,
the development's Highridge Homes, using different
trade names, has been using Jo Hopkins's address
to drop off their deliveries. And she's now starting to get
demands through the door On top of that, she believes they're
trying to grab her land. This triangle of land
belongs to her house. The developers need it
for their access road. Jo says they've already knocked
down the fence once, and used the land to put in gas
and electricity supplies. Also, every attempt
she's made to contact I just feels like
nobody's listening. We've told the council
about our land, we've reiterated the protocol about how to develop
on land not solely owned If we come to sell, we'd be
answerable if we let this go. High ridge homes have amollingised
and will take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again. As for the
land, they say it was offered for sale but they declined to buy it.
In a statement, Bristol City council acknowledges
the development is unauthorised, and says a retrospective planning
application has been submitted for consideration.
A decision will be made by the Council's Development
If councillors refuse planning permission they do have the power
to force the developers to rebuild the homes to the correct size.
But it's not something councils like to do.
In the meantime, the estate agents marketing the homes have
An inquest has heard that concerns were raised about the mental health
of a young father from Cheltenham who took his own life in prison
27-year-old Callum Smith had a history of mental illness
when he was remanded in custody last February.
after threatening to burn down his mother's house.
His family want to know whether more could have been done
Meanwhile in Bristol people at risk of a mental health
crisis are being offered a new card to carry.
It contains details of how they can be helped if they have a breakdown.
The trial scheme is the first of its kind in the West and it's
hoped it will relieve pressure on the emergency services.
This is the first design of the card.
Printed on one side are the details of helplines.
But the idea is the person carrying the card fills in the other side.
Meaning that someone who finds them in a mental health crisis might
The ambition is that people have a better experience of response in a
crisis situation but also that we can steer them away from using the
blue light services. Mark's an artist and raises
awareness of mental health through exhibitions -
and his own experiences. Suffering from anxiety myself, I
find it really hard to find my voice. So, I think those cards would
be really, really good. All the information is there. So then when I
feel like really anxious, if I'm in a social situation, somebody, if
they do want to help me, they can see it all there in front of them.
But if they're to work - people need to know to look for them.
Jayne has epilepsy and has also struggled with depression.
I've had it where people have walked past me and I've really needed help
and I've felt really scared. Scared to ask anyone. You feel a bit of a
freak. But if somebody goes up and they can look in your pocket and
they can see it, then they know that you've got a problem. You can help
somebody. At the moment there are only 1,500
cards as part of the trial. But if it's successful they could be
rolled out across the city. A video of a Gloucestershire
student getting a first after finishing his assignment
in a nightclub has gone viral But it turns out the film
and story was entirely fake. University students created it
as part of a project but then went one step further
when the press got interested. Here's our Gloucestershire
reporter, Steve Knibbs. It started as a project to create
a comedy video and see how far it And it soon went viral -
not long after the press association, a well respected
trusted source, contacted the students who decided to keep
the fake story going... PA published the story
and which was then picked up by several news organisations
online, including the BBC local A university student filmed working
ons an he is say working in a nightclub revealed he got a first
for the assignment. Shows a lack of diligence in the press. Makes you
think what's real and fake out there. People should be wiser when
they open their newspapers. I'm a little shocked in terms of they
haven't checked their sources. Taken everything at face value. They were
just a group of students trying to make a video viral. I call the fake
news the enemy of the people. The fake news.
Of course fake news isn't new, and this was just a frivolous story
but the press association said it spoke to the students
Were the students right to mislead the press in that way? We don't
condone any students, or any members of the staff, deliberately
misleading the press. What the Press Association didn't do was to contact
our press office at the University of Gloucestershire and talk to us
about the story. Had they done that, we had very explained the situation.
This is the second time the film production course
In this era of the internet, it seems that not believing everything
you read and see may on occasion be true.
Are you tell me the truth now? No, of course I am. Yes, I'm telling the
truth. It is all staged. Who do we believe anymore? Helpfully our next
guest. Ian Mean is a journalist with over
50 years experience, with Gloucestershire Media,
the Western Daily Press, the Daily Mail and the Express
and he joins us now. Thank you for joining us. The fact
checking here was done. The student said, this is real. What more could
have been done? Well, Alex, they went out to deceive straightaway.
There are two red lines in journalism, whether it's in print or
broadcast media. One of those red lines is trust. And the other, the
most important, is accuracy. In my view, the person who's running this
course didn't do a great job. If he's actually encouraging students
to lie - because that's what they did - let's be really clear, when
Donald Trump talks about fake news as he has done a great deal today,
in my view, that is untrue news. And it's totally unacceptable. Of
course, we understand as you do, this was frivolous by the very
nature of it. However, it can be more serious as you've alluded to,
Donald Trump there, we're in a period coming up to an election. We
are indeed. I think if you look at the political parties and you
analyse the newspapers every morning, as you do and I do, you
could say there's a lot of fake news in those newspapers. Fake news ie
stories that are not going to come true. One of the issues I think we
have today in journalism is that there's too much reliance,
particularly by inexperienced reporters on social media. They grab
at a social media story immediately, believing it to be totally true.
Sometimes, without checking the facts. In this story, as Steve
Knibbs did, it would have been clear early on with a simple call to the
press office, was this a true story or was it frivolous? So, when you
have a story like this, you know, I was always taught on the Daily Mail,
you probably need three good sources to stand that story up and be clear
that it is true. Of course, the Daily Mail's not always without
blame but I do understand your point. With regards to consumers out
there, people are sitting at home thinking, What am I meant to do? If
it comes from a reputable source, then I believe it. Even these fake
news stories people people doubt those. What would you do as a
consumer? You make up your own mind. Whether you look at Points West or
another channel or you buy my old paper the Daily Mail or the Daily
Mirror. It is a simple choice. But you do need, Alex, trusted news. The
Press Association you quoted in this story is the national news agency of
this country. Highly yes reliable. Very, very respectable. The students
lied to them basically. Well, thank you so much for joining us to
discuss this. Very interesting. I think probably read as many papers
as you can, listen to things. The social media site's taking it really
seriously. They're going to have little alarms come up if there's any
doubt to the validity of the story. Now, it's 40 years to the day
that the BBC's Antiques Roadshow Today, the show was in Minehead
kicking off it's new series, as ever, trying
to unearth some gems. And the awful weather
didn't put off the crowds, The queue told it's own story 3000
people who weren't to be I have a nice little teddy here.
He's 60 years old. His birthday soon. It is a 1930s German pillar
drill. Where did that come from? My dad's shed. A wooden Meccano box.
The Beatles, a hard day's night. Some had made quite
an effort to be here. Like the man from from
New Zealand desperate to get an Antiques Roadshow opinion
on his vase. We watch the Antiques road show a
lot. We enjoy it. When we were coming here, I thought, if there's a
show on while we were here, I'd like to come. If you have brought any
arms, armour, guns, knives... As for the experts, well, every show
throws up a surprise or two. This morning, we have had a
deactivated bomb from the 1930s. Now used as a door stop. It will not go
bang, I can promise you that. Then there's John, who doesn't bring
treasures to be valued. In fact, he's watched
200 live shows. Do the now get bored? No, different
place, different people, different items. It's all different.
It's 20 years since Antique Roadshow was last here.
It was a working railway station then.
So did a Picasso, a hidden gem turned up today.
Well, you'll need to wait until this show is broadcast.
And that'll be some time in the autumn.
Our locals are the hidden gems. And those people queueing up in the
rain, I take my hat off to you. I would if it wasn't raining! We saw
the rain but I think it will be a bit brighter. I've had an e-mail
from someone asking if I've had enough rain for my garden. I've
wished for it too much and am being blamed for it.
Always this dichotomy with the weather, I'm conscious it is cold to
wet, dry, we need to be somewhere down the middle. Some people want
the rain and others will be quite the opposite. Let's look at the
forecast into tomorrow. If you're not after further rain, a good deal
of you will be pretty happy. It will be a very different day. A much
brighter and warmer one. For the most part, a fair amount of sunshine
around. There will be the risk of showers as well. Not necessarily
every where. A favoured area for those which I'll come to in a
minute. Here's how things shape up on a wider scale. The front giving
the rain today easing out to the east. Taking the last of the
drizzle. Skies clearing during the course of tonight. A much quieter
story for the most part tomorrow barring the risk of some showers
developing into the afternoon. For the time being, the rain is dragging
its heels. A lot of drizzly rain at the moment still across some western
areas. The back edge of all of this has been closing in through the
likes of ex-poor into the Bristol Channel. It will take a while for
the last of the light rain to go. Ultimately, the skies start to clear
tonight. It will be a noticeably cooler or chillier night in places
compared to the last two. Gones are the 13-15 Celsius. More like 5-8
Celsius. Tomorrow, a bright and dry start. We'll see one or two showers
forming towards late morning into the early afternoon. As the
afternoon wears on, a strip through parts of Somerset, close to the
Mendips across into Bath, North East Somerset and wilt shire catching
showers. Temperatures tomorrow getting up to 16-18 Celsius. With
light winds t will feel a good deal warmer. That's about from us now. No
fake news. We better leave it there, I think. See you again tomorrow.
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to get the best possible deal for this United Kingdom from Brexit,
because making Brexit a success is central to our national interest