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Welcome to South East Today, I'm Rob Smith. And I'm Polly Evans.

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Tonight's top stories. Ban spitting from Medway's streets,

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a lawmaker's bid to fine people for what he says is an anti-social and

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A warning we'll all pay more for water in future, as Southern Water

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applies for a drought permit to help refill our largest reservoir.

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Also in tonight's programme. After the collapse of Seafrance, a new

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ferry service launches between Dover and Calais, the DFDS LDLines

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Norman Spirit. The magic of the cup, and a huge

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payday as Brighton and Crawley prepare to meet Liverpool and Stoke.

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And he's the man who helped Jim Henson's imagination become reality,

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we meet Sussex puppeteer Steve Good evening. Spitting in the

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street in Medway could be made illegal, with fines of up to �80. A

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local councillor Chris Irvine says the habit is disgusting and anti-

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social and should be banned. Spitting in public was an offence

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for many years to combat tuberculosis in the 1940s, when it

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was believed that spittle could spread the disease, but the ban was

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lifted in the 1990s. Bryony Mackenzie reports.

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This is what the council wants. But as well as the letter, the chewing

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gum and cigarettes, spitting could now be added to the hit-list.

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think it is a disgusting habit. A lot of it happens down here. It is

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just washing things down. Keeping on top of it, really. It is

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Philip's job to clean it up. One councillor says it is not the

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visual impact but the anti-social attitude that spitting the nodes

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that needs tackling. It is a vile and disgusting habit. It is

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something we need to be looking at discouraging, in the same way that

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we discourage people from dropping litter or cigarette butts, or even

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dog owners who do not clean up after their pets. We take action

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against those sort of anti-social issues, so why not actually look at

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discouraging people who spit on the street? It was the spread of

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disease that spot -- prompted a spitting than following the First

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World War put up in 1990, it was -- before 1990, it was an offence.

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Under a new band, council enforcement officers would have the

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power to hand out fixed penalty notices, expected to be around �80.

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Those refusing to pay could face prosecution and a potential fine of

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up to �5,000. Although common on a football pitch, where the ban would

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not apply, it is often seen as a sign of disrespect. It is repulsive,

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really. Spit on the ground. I did it is it a bit much, because it is

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just spitting on the street. -- I think it is a bit much. It is

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disgusting to see people spit on the street, but there are certain

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people who can't help it, if they've got problems with their

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lungs. If you saw somebody doing it, and said, -- she saw someone doing

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it and said, that is not right. think it is good. It is

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disrespectful. It annoys them, whether they are parking badly, and

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they spit at them, my view is, no, it is really awful.

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Bryony is in Chatham, how likely is it that spitting will be banned on

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the street of Medway? It is down to the public, if you look at Enfield

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they had a petition there, 4000 signatures and they turned that

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into the local government minister Eric Pickles. He will decide

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whether a bylaw will be triggered, that could happen within a month.

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People are clear that they think spitting is disgusting, they do not

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wanted on their streets. Less clear is how you would enforce the ban if

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it were to come in. Who would pay for it, that is the question.

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want to know what you think. Should spitting be banned like littering

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or graffiti? Or would it be too difficult to police? You can email

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us or join in the debate on our Facebook page and we'll read out

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some of your comments later in the In future we'll have to pay more

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for our water if we're to avoid drought restrictions every year.

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That's the view of the Campaign to Protect Rural England, which says

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houses should only be built where there's a ready supply of water,

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and more investment should be put into reservoirs to avert a disaster.

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The call for action comes a day after Southern Water applied for a

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drought permit, which will enable it to take more water from the

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River Medway to fill up Bewl Water reservoir. Our news correspondent

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Mark Norman reports. The summer -- does the slogan save

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water, paved with a friend, ring any bells? It was the message of

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the summer of 1976 as a judge took hold. Water companies controlled

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standpipes to control how much we used, grass fires were commonplace.

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The latest application for a drought order might not lead to

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such extremes, but environmental campaigners say the lack of

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rainfall, lack of investment by water companies and potential drain

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on our rivers could prove disastrous. Drought orders are

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supposed to be for real emergencies, they are supposed to be very

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occasionally used for those exceptional circumstances. We can

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probably keep the taps running for a while longer. If we are careful

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about how we use water. It is rivers like this, the wider

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environment where the real pressures will be felt. Southern

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Water argues strongly that their 25 year plan was to give the water

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supply and considered the impact on the environment. But the Campaign

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to Protect Rural England state new relaxed planning laws by the

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coalition will increase the demand on our water supplies. With

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increasing demands from homes and businesses, they say one solution

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is for us, the consumer, to pay more on our bills so the water

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companies can pay for that investment. But are we prepared to

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pay his bills? I think we have been to -- cutting corners for too long.

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It is a harsh reality that we probably will need to see increased

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water bills to make sure we can actually carry on continuing to

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supply the water that we need. way, it is the wrong question. I am

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happy to invest in the infrastructure, but at the moment,

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and only wants to pay for the water are used. I think I wouldn't mind

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paying more if it was rail up -- readily available, definitely.

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Rather than wait until it has all gone wrong, I think that they do

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not seem to have invested their money wisely. We have had the

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driest 10 months for more than 100 years, and Southern Water say they

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need to plan now to try and prevent water restrictions later this

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summer. Our reporter Katherine Downes is in

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Westminster for us tonight, this is subject which is going straight to

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the heart of government as well, isn't it? Yes, some parts of the

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country have already experienced many parts of -- times of drought,

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and Defra predict that will continue into the summer. They say

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it is already an issue of future national importance. On Monday, the

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Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman will chair a summit

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attended by environmental groups, the water groups and the Met Office

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to discuss the future and see what's messages -- what can be done

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to prevent drought. The message is that everyone needs to use less

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water, starting now. In a moment:

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The rabbits found mutilated and abandoned as the RSPCA warns they

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are struggling to cope with the number of pets being left by

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families unable to afford them any more.

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Large crowds turned out today to pay their respects to a young

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father who was stabbed to death on a street in Hailsham last month.

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Darren Croxton was 25, and had a young daughter. A 16-year-old boy

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has been charged with his murder. From Hellingly where the funeral

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took place, John Young has our report.

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The police had warned the public that the crowds might be large, and

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they were right. Darren Croxton's family said we were welcome to film

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the hearse and riding, they wanted his funeral to be a celebration of

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his life. He was a man who played hard and worked hard, the vicar

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told the mourners, a good man. loved challenges, any challenge he

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was up to it. He loved his family, very loyal to family and friends,

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and loved his daughter dearly. must have been a difficult service.

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Very difficult, yes. But it was the, the church was packed and there

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were lots of it all outside, everyone came to give him a good

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send-off which we certainly did. Darren Croxton had been found

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stabbed on a part in Hailsham a month ago. He died the following

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day. A spate of arrests and radiantly followed leading to some

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unrest in the town, crowds gathering outside Hailsham police

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station within days. In the dash of the 13 men and use arrested, eight

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were eliminated from inquiries. That leaves 116 year-old boy

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charged with his murder, and four other young men on police bail.

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Earlier this week, police divers searched a nearby lake. Today,

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thoughts turned to a young daughter who had lost her father and a

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community seeming at times build up an angry.

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-- bewildered and angry. A British Airways steward from

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Crawley has been charged with making a bomb threat in mid-air.

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The scare was caused by a message which was written on a toilet door

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on the Tokyo to Heathrow flight, which had 150 people on board. 22-

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year-old Matthew Davis was arrested on landing and will appear in court

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later this month. Children are being trafficked into

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Britain via Eurostar, according to a member of the House of Lords.

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Baroness Doocey says children as young as 12 can travel

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unaccompanied on a train from France or Belgium simply with a

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piece of paper signed by an adult. The UK Border Agency says it's

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working to get the loophole closed as quickly as possible.

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Parking charges for Brighton and Hove's Traders are being revised

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following concerns expressed by the business community. Last month

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scores of vans brought the centre of Hove to a standstill in protest

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against increases in charges. It had been suggested that annual

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permits would go up to �750 but the council has decided that the new

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rate will be �600 instead. Three pet rabbits have been found

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abandoned in Kent, mutilated, with their ears cut off. The find comes

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as the RSPCA warns they are struggling to cope with the numbers

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of animals being left by families unable to afford their pets any

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more. Last year the organisation rescued far more animals than it

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managed to rehome and it says that trend is set to worsen this year.

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Lucinda Adam reports. In just a fortnight, these five

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rabbits have been found dumped in Thanet and Maidstone. One emaciated

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and close to death, another attacked by dogs. And three who

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have had their ears deliberately cut off. When we picked them up, we

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were quite aghast, quite shocked. I think the recession has played a

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part. People are losing their homes which is sad, they do not always

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have some way to give their pet into. I think there are many

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reasons. I think some people just get tired of them. This new centre

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for small animals does not even open until June, but these rabbits

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are already being cared for here in makeshift runs because the RSPCA's

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rescue centre in May born and its 18 branches in Kent and Sussex are

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overflowing. Last year, the RSPCA took in more than 5300 rabbits.

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They managed to rehome more than 3800 of them, but that left more

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than 1500 with nowhere to go. Around two-thirds are still in

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risky branches, while a third were put down for medical reasons. --

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rescue branches. Even the most caring pet owners have been feeling

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the pinch on their purses. People have been unable to do certain

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procedures and tests that they would have perhaps been able to do

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in the past. More people are unable to do that. A classic example would

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be an animal with rotten teeth, a cat with rotten teeth which is

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really causing pain, it need to have them out and they are simply

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unable to afford the cost of the procedure. That financial pressure

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means this rescue centre can expect a full house from the moment it

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opens its doors. It's 6:45pm, this is our top story

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tonight. A campaign to have spitting in

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public outlawed in Medway has been proposed by a conservative

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councillor. Chris Irvine is backing a scheme for on the spot fines of

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up to �80 for spitting. If the new by-law for a ban goes ahead it will

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be the first in Britain in 22 years. Also in tonight's programme,

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creating Jim Henson's animal magic, we meet Sussex puppeteer Steve

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Allen. It is a weekend of two hearts, it

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rained for Saturday, a call the picture behind it for Sunday. --

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two halves. And are called the A new ferry service launched in

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Dover today, sailing on the route to Calais. There was a little help

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from model and presenter Kelly Brook. Operators DFDS and LD Lines

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have joined together to run the route, which until recently was

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served by SeaFrance. More than 1,800 jobs were lost when SeaFrance

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collapsed earlier this year, some 200 of them in the UK. Now the

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operators of the new route say 300 jobs will be created when their

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second ship enters service. Launched under a celebratory spray

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of sea water, and the more traditional champagne in the hands

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of model Kelly Brook, DFDS and LD Lines's new ferry carries hopes of

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new jobs and more competition on the Channel. But can the companies

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avoid the problems that sank SeaFrance? We have seen a massive

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availability of capacity being created by the exit of SeaFrance,

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and putting in this vessel by no means take up all that slack. We

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are part of the biggest ferry operation in it and York --

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northern Europe. This very business has been running for 130 years, and

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now we have formed a collaboration with LD Lines, that furthers --

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offers us further strength on the French side. It might be one of the

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busiest ferry routes on the four world, but it is also one of the

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most competitive. The past of years saw the retirement of the

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hovercraft and its operator. Speed ferries saw it only ferry impounded

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in Calais in 2008, and the last of the railway owned companies,

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SeaFrance, went under in January. The Dover-Calais route, although

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extremely busy, cannot always be very profitable. The reason being,

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you have got too much competition and a downturn in trade. The fixed

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costs it takes to run the ships and the other competition from the

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Eurotunnel means margins gets squeezed a lot. The companies have

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said that when their second ship launches on the rich, 300 jobs will

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have been created. There is doubt as to how many will be in the UK.

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We have at the moment one extra ship, there will be at second want

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coming over in the next few weeks. We are talking at about 20 to 30

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jobs. So will the launch of theHerald a renaissance in cross-

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Channel business, or just another chapter in its ever-changing

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A huge financial windfall is coming to two Sussex football clubs this

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weekend, as the world's most famous cup competition takes centre stage.

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Both Brighton and Hove Albion and Crawley Town take on Premier League

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opposition in the 5th round of the FA Cup, and our sports reporter

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Neil Bell is live at the Broadfield Stadium. Neil, both clubs are set

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to get an injection of hundreds of thousands of pounds from two mouth-

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watering ties. It is a massively exciting weekend.

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Imagine if you will, nine months ago, Stoke City ran out at Wembley

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to take on Manchester City in the FA Cup final in front of 100,000.

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On Sunday, they will come out for a very different but challenging

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experience. The FA Cup has been here at the Broadfield Stadium

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today, and it has lost none of its allure or fascination for football

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fans. It is an historic sporting trophy,

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but for clubs like Brighton and Crawley, it also represents a

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chance to cash in. The lucky horseshoe brigade will need no

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reminding that Britain's only trip to the final 30 years ago saw them

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eliminate Liverpool on the way, it is the stuff dreams are made of.

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is going to be a great experience. It is going to be, for a few

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players, unique, because they don't know if they will be able to play

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at Anfield again. It is a chance for them to go on to something

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special. While a Cup run is exciting for both fans and players,

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the business boost for the clubs cannot be underestimated. They will

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each receive �212,000, as the games are live on TV. They get 45% of the

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gate receipts, which, at a sell-out Anfield, could be worth half a

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million pounds. And if they were to win, there is a further �180,000 in

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prize money. Liverpool legend and pundit Mark Rorison still has a

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soft spot for Britain. He began his career at Sussex. Brighton are

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looking good, they started extremely well but tailed off a

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little bit. Playing good football under Gus Poyet, he has done a good

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job. It is a difficult tie for them, because Liverpool's form recently

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has picked up. This time last year, thousands of Crawley fans were on

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their way to Old Trafford, and enjoying every minute. Manager

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Steve Evans is well aware this weekend represents another on

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almost opportunity. The money coming in will be very useful, we

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could put in a new 3000 seat stand on the far side, which is due to be

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starting in the next few weeks. That is things that the board

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wanted but within the infrastructure. If the money East

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comes in, it will stay within the club and be spent to develop the

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club in the future. Just two years ago, we were non-League, going into

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extinction, not just administration, going out of business. This board

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has got us to lead to, we could go further. Even the most optimistic

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supporter probably think that the Cup final is a long shot, but

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despite the odds, a further progress is not out of the question.

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Stoke City boss Tony Guinness will be sitting here, Steve Evans

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Crawley but Ashtead Evans, corded us, over there. There could be some

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friction. Crawley beatings they could be the biggest Cup upset for

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20 years, but many people would not see it as surprise. Stoke have lost

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their last six, and Crawley have only lost a couple here recently.

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League One leaders Charlton will be looking to extend their eight point

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lead when they travel to Tranmere tomorrow afternoon. The Addicks are

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on a six game unbeaten run in the league but have concerns over in-

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form captain Johnnie Jackson, who is struggling to make the trip to

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Merseyside. And after slumping to their fifth consecutive defeat on

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Monday, Gillingham will hope to put a stop to their poor run away at

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Port Vale. The Gills are losing touch with the League Two play-off

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places and go into Saturday's game five points off seventh.

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Best of luck to all of our side, particularly those in the Cup. It

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is an adventure, and it can always spring a surprise. I bet there will

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be one or two people not slipping back well in their beds on Saturday

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night! -- and not sleeping that well!

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There are major problems on the main railway line between London

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and Brighton, Network Rail say and their work -- a section of Rail has

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been damaged. And passengers have been stranded on a train, power has

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been cut. All services have either been cancelled or diverted. Network

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Rail says the repairs will take several hours. We will have more

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later on. A Kent puppeteer and model maker

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who has helped to develop some of TV and film's most famous

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characters is holding an exhibition of his work. Steve Allen from

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Petham has enjoyed a long career and worked with big names such as

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Jim Henson and David Bowie on the film Labyrinth. Alex Beard has more.

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It was his love of The Muppets as an 11 year-old child that led Steve

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Allen into his but the cheering Korea. His child to dream realised

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when he landed a job with Jim Henson. -- into his putter Tear

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I have lost count how many times I haven't made versions of Kermit the

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Frog. It just got beyond a joke! well as a lot of Kermit the Frogs,

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Steve has made burgeoned as for Wallace and Gromit and even star

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wars. He create pretty times for puppets in films such as Labyrinth

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of. One of them leads to the castle in the centre, and the other one

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leads to certain death! My job, if you can call it that, pick up --

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was to go in, and produce prototypes of goblins and Wild

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Things. They would take these prototypes and they would be shown

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to Jim Henson and the rest of the thing -- team, then they would be

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passed on to the animatronics team and the people who would make the

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ones in the film. Steve is now working on puppets of

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his own design. Everything has to be made from scratch but kept light

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weight so the property -- so it can be held four hours. He has eyes

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made out of prison, and there is a mechanism to make various parts of

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his face move, which is a secret. Max, the guitar playing dog, will

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feature in the exhibition this weekend in Petham.

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Plans to make spitting on the street of Medway an offence with

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fines of up to �80, we asked for your opinions. A lot of you agree.

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The word coming up and -- again and again is disgusting. Jody says, it

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should be banned, a disgusting habit that mostly only young men do.

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He would not spit on the floor at home, so why on the street? This

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one says, despicable, a filthy habit, it should be unlawful

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anywhere in the UK. This one, Jo Saunders and, from Allington, is

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one of the few who goes against the grain. Eight -- he says, I am a

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keen footballer. I often find myself needing to spit. How would

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it police? A few people are saying, footballers are setting a bad

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example and players that spit he It has been a cloudy, mostly dry

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and mild picture today, it stays that way through tonight. It will

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be all change to the weekend. Initially drier on Saturday,

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increasingly wet and windy for us all. That rain clears and leaves

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behind it a much colder picked up the Sunday. -- picture for Sunday.

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And a widespread frost. The bulk of the unsettled weather is well to

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the north of us today, temperatures again in double figures, highs of

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10 degrees. Despite the cloud, not feeling too bad. As we go through

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tonight, very little changes. Plenty of cloud around, the odd

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scattered shower. Temperatures not really dropping much below six or

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seven degrees, eight degrees along the coast, that is usually daytime

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temperatures. A very mild, cloudy start, but it does not last. An

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active cold front is sinking southwards, south-westerly winds

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picking up. Initially tried but increasingly unsettled. By

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lunchtime, heavy pulses of ring for us all, wet and windy. Blustery

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winds, stronger than 25 miles an hour. Similar temperatures to today

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put up above average, but with the unsettled weather, feeling a little

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bit cooler than the numbers suggest. The rain it clears through the

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first part of Saturday night, leaving behind a much cooler story.

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Clearer skies, the winds from an north-westerly direction. Once

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again, a frosty start on Sunday. Lots and lots of winter sunshine on

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Sunday. Temperatures below average again. With high pressure in

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control, Monday sees lots of cloud but staying dry, this area of high

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pressure pulls away to the east and once again by Tuesday, some rain

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moving in from the West. The temperatures will recover by

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Tuesday again, we have highs of The headlines, Rupert Murdoch has

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confirmed plans for a new newspaper, saying the sun on Sunday will be

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launching very soon. Spitting on the street in Medway

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could be banned with fines of �80 if a new bylaw is past.

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And a warning we will be paying more for water in future as

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Southern Water applies for a drought permits to help refill our

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largest reservoir. And just before we go, quick

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congratulations to Colin Campbell who won the Journalist of the Year

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title at the Royal Television Society, Southern Centre awards

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last night. Our colleague Matt Goddard won the award for Best

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