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Welcome to South East Today, I'm Rob Smith. And I'm Natalie Graham.

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Tonight's top stories: The authorities in Calais are criticised

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for not doing more to help the Syrians seeking asylum in this

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country. We're live in France with the latest.

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The plans for a heritage theme park in Margate — but there are fears

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about how much it could cost the taxpayer.

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We are confident it will pay for itself. We have done the sums and we

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have got really good people in place.

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Also in tonight's programme: The threat of professional wild mushroom

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pickers to our forest eco systems. We take a close up view of the

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repainting of the Beachy Head lighthouse.

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Hello, and welcome to jazz club. Great. Really great. And we chat to

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John Thomson, who's Good evening. The French are under

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pressure tonight to provide shelter for Syrian would—be asylum seekers

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who say they would get better treatment in England. A group of

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about 50 Syrians demonstrating in Calais believe they have the right

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to claim asylum in England. The United Nations says France is

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obliged to house the men, but is failing to accommodate them. Peter

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obliged to house the men, but is Whittlesea reports from Calais.

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This scrap of land in Calais is home to around 50 Syrians. According to

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the UN, only eight have claimed asylum in France. The rest are not

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entitled to any state aid. This man believes refugees have better

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prospects in Britain. I have to find some way to get there. But you will

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be deported, because you have come through France, a safe country? Yes,

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but I don't think they will say anything. Every Syrian I spoke to

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believes if they do not claim asylum in any other European country,

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Britain will accept them. But refugees must claim asylum in the

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first safe country. In the past we were a safe touch —— soft touch. Now

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we have got a stronger system. We have toughened up. We needed to make

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sure that people from overseas understand Britain is no longer a

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soft touch. In France, a single man would add —— receive accommodation

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and £65 a week. In the UK, accommodation and £36 per week.

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But the charity workers in France say there is a big difference

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between theory and practice. The procedure is faster in England and

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people get accommodation from the beginning. They don't stay in the

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streets for weeks and months. It is a bit different. The British

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government is abiding by the law and the French government isn't? Yes.

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There are mixed feelings over whether Syrian asylum seekers should

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be allowed into Britain. Why can't lay claim asylum in France,

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especially the Syrians, who have links with France? If they don't

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like how they are treated, anybody should have the choice. The

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infrastructure in this country is straining under the leash and we

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cannot afford any more subscribers. The vast majority of Syrian families

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with young children have now been found accommodation. But the single

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men are still sleeping wrath. Peter is in Calais. —— still sleeping

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wrath. In theory they would be better off claiming asylum in France

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than the UK? That is right. Mathematically you get more money in

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France and the UK. But the pressure for housing here in Calais is so

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huge that only the most vulnerable will be given accommodation. If you

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are a single male, you are unlikely to be given accommodation and you

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will live on the street. The UN says that is because so many people flock

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to Calais, the authorities cannot cope. Because there is the option of

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living on the streets are getting accommodation in Britain, for a

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certain number of asylum seekers, Britain remains an attractive

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option. A heritage park will be built in

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Margate on the site of the old Dreamland attraction, and the

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council claim it will bring thousands of tourists into the town.

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But as the High Court today ruled that the council's plans could go

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ahead, the site's former owners warned that it will needlessly cost

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the local taxpayers a fortune. Dreamland's closure was announced in

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2003 and the land was sold for housing and development. But in

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2011, the council issued a compulsory purchase order to take

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over the site, as no work had begun. The owners objected, but in May this

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year the High Court ruled that the compulsory purchase order should

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stand. The owners then went to appeal, and today that appeal has

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been lost. Sara Smith is in Margate now. Sara, good news for the

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council? Yes, a relief for the Council, especially because the

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company that did on this land has said it will not take legal action

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any further. In a rather furious statement, they said there was no

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evidence that Thanet Council or the trust that will run the park have

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got any experience of setting up a successful amusement arcade. They

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have ended up going on hand for money from the taxpayers and the

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council. They said they did not even have the money to buy the land now

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that they have won permission. The council says the funding is in

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place. And they say they will make a success of it. In the good old

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days, it attracted visitors from far and wide.

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Are the good days coming back? The council has £10 million in

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government and lottery grants to get Dreamland open. After that, it needs

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to pay for itself. We are confident it will pay for itself. We have done

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the sums and we have got good people in place. Wayne Hemingway is doing

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the design. There will be a lot of publicity. It is something that will

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snowball once it opens. Wayne Hemingway agrees, convinced his

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vision will bring in the crowds. We need to attract people from all

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around the UK to think about Margate and Dreamland as a destination. It

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is hard work. We are going into this believing we can succeed. Choking

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the private company of the site does mean the council and local people

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carry all the risk. —— throwing the private company. If it goes wrong,

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there is a risk to the taxpayer in Margate. Take the bet, make it

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work, but chase the council to make sure it is a first—rate development.

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The council plan for heritage rides and a festival space, needs to be

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attractive enough to pull in the punters.

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That is all right for locals. Otherwise people will go for modern

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theme parks. I used to go there all the time with my mates. It is better

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than Thorpe Park. It has been there forever. I have only seen on the

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telly her dilapidated it looks. I don't think it will affect me. Phase

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one should open in 18 months. Then Thanet Council's plans will face the

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fiercest of all judges, the public. The council is convinced it does

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have a winner here. They are expecting even more visitors than

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they had originally planned for. Coming up in a moment, Norman Baker

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and a conspiracy of spies. Why the Liberal Democrat MP has moved ——

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Liberal Democrat MP's move to the Home Office has ruffled some

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feathers. Kent's Police and Crime Commissioner

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says she wants a "street savvy" Youth Commissioner and will have the

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right person in position by Christmas. This morning, Ann Barnes

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was scrutinised over the selection of Paris Brown, who quit after

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inappropriate comments on Twitter. The commissioner accepts

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responsibility for failing to get social networking vetting checks

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done on the teenager, but says lessons have been learned. Colin

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Campbell was at the meeting and has this report.

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I don't want people judging me based on a few stupid things which I wrote

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and didn't mean. Paris Brown sensationally quit as Youth

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Commissioner after she had made a series of offensive comments. It is

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an appropriate system to use. Today Kent Police and Crime Commissioner

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Ann Barnes was questioned over how the teenager was treated. Ann Barnes

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accepts responsibility for not requesting social media checks. She

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fell at the last fence because the social networking vetting was not

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done. The rest was fine. This is the same system used to recruit police

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officers. You are dealing with a young person and the process of

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interviewing that young person was too sophisticated. They missed

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social media. Ann Barnes says she will have a new Youth Commissioner

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in post by Christmas. She was the person to beat street savvy. The

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Police and Crime Commissioners says social media will be scrutinised.

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There is still support for a Youth Commissioner. Somebody who is not

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silly and is responsible for what they say. It is a good idea because

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you get a young person's perspective. There are concerns the

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candidate could become the focus of intense media —— media scrutiny. It

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will always be difficult for anybody who takes on this role. They will be

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seen through the fiasco. For obvious reasons, I don't want this to

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impinge on his or her work. Ann Barnes says lessons have been

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learned. She is not looking for an angel, just a single voice to

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represent the voice of young people. We'd like to know what you think —

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does Kent need a Youth Commissioner? Or should the force spend £15,000 on

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something else? You can email us or join the debate on Facebook.

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something else? You can email us or A man who punched and kicked his

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pregnant girlfriend in the stomach has been jailed for 11 years by Hove

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Crown court. 33—year—old Devon Newell from Peckham in London

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attacked the 20—year old at her home in Eastbourne in October, whilst she

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was in the bath. He tried to strangle her and held her under

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water. She was partly blinded in one eye but the baby was unharmed.

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A Sussex MP has called for an emergency Commons debate after he

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was issued a harassment warning notice by police. Tim Loughton was

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issued the notice after he referred to a constituent as "unkempt". The

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issue will be debated in the Commons tomorrow after any urgent questions

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or statements. The Liberal Democrats have been

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defending the decision to appoint the Lewes MP Norman Baker to a

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ministerial role at the Home Office in yesterday's reshuffle. Critics

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have questioned the appointment of Mr Baker, who wrote a book claiming

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that the security services were involved in a cover—up over the

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death of government scientist Dr David Kelly. But the Chief Secretary

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to the Treasury, Danny Alexander, says Mr Baker will be an excellent

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Home Office minister. Louise Stewart is at Westminster. Louise, his

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appointment appears to have caused a bit of a row — why do you think it's

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been so controversial? Has it come as a surprise? His appointment came

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as a big surprise. He had been at the Department of Transport for

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three years. He was a great advocate of cycling and railways. This move

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came out of the blue. It has caused controversy. As a backbench MP he

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took a year off to write a book about the death of Doctor David

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Kelly. He suggested that he had not committed suicide but that it was a

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case of murder perhaps covered up by security services for political

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expediency. He will also try to inject some liberalism into the Home

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Office. Norman Baker said he had already spoken to Theresa May and

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said they will work well together. It is a calculated attempt to make

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sure that a liberal voices heard in a constructive, collegiate way, with

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my Conservative colleagues. It is an attempt to work together in a

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mature, constructive way. He is looking forward to working with

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Theresa May. He actually seemed quite happy at transport. Why was he

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moved? The premise to's spokesman would not comment on the appointment

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today other than to say it was down to the party leaders. This was Nick

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Clegg's idea to inject a liberal into the Home Office to take the

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fight to Theresa May over immigration, the scrapping of the

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human rights act and also tackling crime.

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Our top story tonight: The French are under pressure tonight to

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provide shelter for Syrian would—be asylum seekers gathering in Calais

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who say they want to move to England. The United Nations says

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France is obliged to house the men — but is failing to accommodate them.

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Also on the programme: on the show today, Jackson... We will be

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chatting to John Thompson about his latest incarnation as a Yorkshire

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man on holiday in Blackpool. Today was another good day. Significantly

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colder for the next few days. Join me later.

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It is predicted to be a bumper year for wild mushrooms following a warm

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September — but there are fears that gangs could strip the local area of

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all Fungi, to then sell the crop on for profit. It is not illegal to

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forage for mushrooms, but according to the Wild Mushroom Pickers' Code

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of Conduct, pickers should always seek the landowner's or site

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manager's permission. Do not collect species you don't intend to eat. And

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you should only pick enough for personal consumption — or not more

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than 1.5kg per visit. Alex Beard has tonight's special report.

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If you know what you are looking for, the forest floor can provide a

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free dinner. The main one is that everybody is after... Here we have a

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perfect example. In this country they are known as a penny bond. This

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is what everybody is after. A kilo of these would probably go for

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anything between 25p to £40. Nik Weston runs foraging classes. He has

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seen signs of illegal foraging. A large group of people have come in,

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they have swept a large area of the forest, been told to pick

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everything. Then they just go and dump the ones they cannot sell.

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Picking things from the wild is not illegal, as long as you are doing it

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for your own personal use. It becomes theft when you are nicking a

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profit. Something like this is very desirable because in large

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quantities it is worth a lot of money. Foraged food continues to

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feature on many top menu. —— many top menus. But signs of mass picking

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is concerning to experts. They provide the seed sauce for the next

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generation. If they are all picked, there is not going to be any

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generations in the future. It could be disastrous. This is not foraging,

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it is pillaging. There are calls for more governments to stop organised

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groups from curing the harvest. —— clearing.

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You may remember him best as Pete in cold feed. You remember —— you may

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remember his characters from the fast show. Nice. In just a moment,

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we would be chatting live with John Thompson from Brighton, where he is

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going to be on stage tonight, playing a Yorkshire man on holiday.

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Here is a quick reminder of him in action. An actor and comedian, John

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Thomson is best known for Cold Feet. I see they have managed to get that

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beach —— get that whale love the beach in Cornwall. I don't know why

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I said that! Since then he has had us in stitches on sketch shows.

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Hello and welcome to jazz club. Great. Really great. Not to mention

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joining the cast of Waterloo Road. I've never seen you in a suit

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before. He has even impressed judges on Masterchef. What is that you have

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done? I have rolled it in the egg, put it in a bit of flour and deep

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fried it. It tastes really nice. Like calamari. Now he is about to

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dazzle audiences in Brighton as he takes to the stage at the Theatre

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Royal. John Thomson joins us now. We have just seen some of the stuff you

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have done over the years. You are a Mancunian playing a Yorkshire man.

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Is that the toughest role of your career? Well, some of the vowel

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sounds are different. I have had to work the accents to get it

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authentic. It is still a learning curve. That has been the only

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problem. I have got a good year for accidents. I don't think it is going

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to rekindle the War of the Roses, to be honest. We have just seen your

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incredible career. You have barely left our screens over the last

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couple of decades. What do people remember you for most? Cold Feet and

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the fast show seem to be the strongest things in my career. I

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still get people coming up to me on the street saying, nice. Which I

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responded to with, great. Cold Feet was ground—breaking in its time and

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people still ask if it is coming back. I cannot really answer that.

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Yes, those are two things I am very proud of. You are on a tour at the

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moment. Is that quite tough for you being away from the family? It is,

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yes. A lot of the tour dates are a southern —based. If you live in

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London, it is immutable. After Aylesbury I get to go to Derby. Most

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nights I will come home after Derby. And Chesterfield, too. Yes,

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this three—week run has been Richmond, Brighton, Aylesbury. I

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only have had half a day with them. I am relying on Skype to speak to

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the kids. That is one of the toughest parts of touring. But I do

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love the fact that you get to see different places all the time and

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explore the town you're staying in. You are in a good place to enjoy the

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night. Yes, the audience were cracking last night. The reviews

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have been brilliant. Tonight I'm really looking forward to the show.

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Enjoy it. Thank you Brett much. Thank you so much. Cheers.

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Kent police Commissioner Ann Barnes once a street savvy Youth

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Commissioner and she says she will have the right person in position by

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Christmas. We asked you what you think. Does Kent need a Youth

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Commissioner? We have had lots of comments. Tony cannot see the point

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of a Youth Commissioner after the Police and Crime Commissioner made

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such a mess of the first one. Chris says, come on, let's support this.

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It is a chance for an educated and intelligent youngster to do a

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worthwhile job. Ralph says, bring back Paris Brown. Politicians often

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make inappropriate comments and get away with it. But Michael King says,

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it is yet another total waste of public money. Rodney Hughes believes

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that as well. Of course we do not need another Youth Commissioner.

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There is too much emphasis on youth. And Lucy referred to the story we

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digested a involving Kent police. She says, let's spend this £15,000

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on staff and police officers in overtime to man the remembrance

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parade in Chatham. It is good to see the police listening to the youth of

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our country but the press should not try to attack the person who steps

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into this role as happened last time. Thank you for your comments.

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Time for the weather. Incredibly warm today for October. I know.

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Today, another day when you could have been out and about in T—shirts.

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In the next couple of days, a big drop in those temperatures. It is

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good to be very windy. Gale force winds. Not so today. Plenty of

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sunshine, particularly in the morning. Decent temperatures for the

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time of the year. 19 to 20 degrees. A very pleasant day indeed. Through

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tonight we have got a cold front. Some more cloud cover. We could see

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some light patchy rain and drizzle. The wind is picking up a little bit.

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Temperatures again very mild for the time of the year. Dropping to 12 or

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13 degrees. As we start the day tomorrow, it will be overcast,

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particularly in the morning. The winds are going to start picking up

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and they will be swinging in a north—westerly direction.

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Temperatures dropping several degrees on today's values. Highs of

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around 15 or 16 degrees. The chance of a scattered light shower. Through

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tomorrow evening, we see that cloud eventually lifting. Clearer skies.

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Temperatures dropping widely for all of us to single figures. Overnight

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lows of five or six degrees. A cold start on Thursday. But quite bright.

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The winds on Thursday gusting to 50 mph on the coast. Inland, still

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quite breezy. The chance of outbreaks of rain. It stays cool as

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we move into Friday. The wind staying strong as well. Temperatures

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at 13 or 14 degrees. Hefty rain. As we head into the weekend, unsettled

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and cool. It has been lovely in the last few days, but quite a shift for

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the rest of the week. Thank you very much. Former Brighton manager Gus

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Poyet has been named as head coach of Premiership side Sunderland.

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Poyet — who was sacked by the Seagulls in June —

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A French company is going to be in Kent are trying to produce

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cross—channel business opportunities in the next couple of days.

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With its own cocoa bean plantations in South America, more than 20 shops

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and a busy factory near Calais, this chocolate manufacturer has set its

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sights on the UK market. I think if you want to make yourself known in a

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country, you go there and say hello to anybody you can meet. I think

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word—of—mouth spreads. They are one of dozens of firms trying to forge

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business links with companies here. Kent people are close by. They

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probably do not realise the potential that exists an hour and a

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half on —— from where they live. We understand each other better. We can

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become an entry. We can be even more competitive. The event in Tunbridge

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Wells is open to anybody interested in trade with northern France. And

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the share in a £150 billion market between the two countries. We are

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sorry we could not bring you the report about the painting of the

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Beachy Head lighthouse. We do hope to have it for you tomorrow. Indeed

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we do. I will be back at eight o'clock and the main News at

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10:25pm. Before we go, let's look at the national and local top stories.

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16 to 24—year—olds in England and Northern Ireland lag far behind

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young people in other industrialised countries when it comes to literacy

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and numerous Eid tests, according to a report. The French authorities are

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under pressure tonight to provide shelter and care to Syrian asylum

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seekers in Calais. The UN says France is obliged to has the men.

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That is it. Goodbye.

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