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Welcome to South East Today, I'm Rob Smith.

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Tonight's top stories: Southern talks are to take place

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between the RMT Union and the Government -

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as a report says driver only operation is safe.

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That is what the unions ask for and if they are not willing to accept

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that is the end of the matter I think we will need to look at

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legislation. We'll speak to the RMT Union

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about the latest developments. As debts at Dreamland mount -

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the Kent attraction gets a controversial ?10 million loan

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from an offshore hedge fund. Also in tonight's programme: No fire

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drill in three years - the Kent hospital criticised

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for failures in its basic Back to school - the unique scheme

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being pioneered in Kent to persuade students to become teachers

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at their own school. And 100 miles for 100 years -

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the history trails being created to let everyone discover our links

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to the First World War. It's been a day of rapid

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developments in the bitter dispute between Southern rail and the rail

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unions with just days to go before At 11 o'clock the Office

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of Road and Rail issued a report confirming,

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for a second time, that Southern's driver-only operated

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trains do meet legal requirements At midday Sussex MP Huw Merriman

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called for new laws to be introduced, to prevent the RMT

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and Aslef from calling And at just before 2pm

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this afternoon, the RMT agreed to direct talks with the

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Transport Secretary Chris Grayling. Our reporter Charlie Rose has

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the latest on the days developments. Could this soon be back? -- band.

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Industrial action by real opinions on issue of safety causing a month

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after month of misery for commuters. One Sussex MP has plans in place to

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make it illegal and he says he will set the wheels in motion next month

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if they reportedly on the issue of driver only operated trains fails to

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bring an end to the dispute. If the unions do not come to their senses

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on the back of this detailed report that shows the driver only operated

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technology is safe on Southern. If they are not willing to look at

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legislation. The driver only operated trains are where the driver

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rather than conductor opens and closes the door is, using CCTV to

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check it is safe. Southern want to roll it out but unions say it is

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dangerous. To the chief inspector of the Railways said providing that

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certain measures are in place driver only operation is safe. If you have

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the right equipment, competent staff and the right processes and

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procedures driver only operation can be safe. The drivers union Aslef has

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described the report as a whitewash and says it does not get driver only

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operation a clean bill of health. There is the difference between the

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three car train in 1986 or 1990 and people running 12 car trains with

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much more people on them and very busy platforms and you only get a

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couple of seconds to assimilate the images on the train and you cannot

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rely on the technology that is meant to support. The trains are already

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running driver only and does not seem to be problems which seems to

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be more of a political issue. If anything the unions are the icing on

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the cake of this issue. A day of significant developments but with

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more strike action in the pipeline that does not seem too much hope

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from passengers there could be an end to this dispute any time soon.

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Let's have a look in a bit more detail at the Office

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The rail regulator tested safety of driver only operated

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trains already running in the Southern region.

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They found that the quality of the CCTV images drivers can see

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varied but adequate - though Southern have been told

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The inspectors did identify stations where lighting,

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foliage or overcrowding could obstruct the driver's view -

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and Southern say improvements are being made at those stations

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or additional staff provided to help.

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Overall the report says there are some 'clear safety

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Paul Cox from the RMT Union joins us live from Westminster.

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Mr Cox, driver-only operated trains have been ruled safe today -

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many commuters will be thinking that it's now time

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for you to call off future strikes, and ask your members

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Let me first say tender introduction you attributed all the disruption

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that has gone on from months to industrial action by trade unions

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and that is clearly untrue. I believe you know that so I am quite

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upset at the bias displayed by BBC south-east. There has been a lot

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of... That was deliberate bias. It was enacted it. If you are going to

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tell the people in your region then you should report accurately. That

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was a factual statement and most of the action has not been caused --

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the destruction has not been caused mainly by industrial action and this

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attitude by BBC south-east is recovering. I can answer the

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question on the Office of Road and Rail report, if you want. It is down

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to whether or not commuters will get the chance to get to work, isn't it?

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The report... That is biased again. The report from Office of Road and

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Rail is completely detached from reality. It is not an accurate

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reflection of what is happening out on the trains. Drivers are reporting

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the dreaded working, the they cannot see the doors on the trains because

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of lighting issues -- a depleted working. The office of the rail

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regulator know this. We have been told repeatedly but decided to

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ignore it. It is just not true. It calls into question the integrity of

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the regulator. That leads us to believe that is no safety body left

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in this country that is not under the influence of the train companies

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and the Government. You are choosing this programme of

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bias and I can assure you that is not the case. If we had Chris

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Grayling on the programme we would question him an equally robust way.

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The identity has agreed to hold face-to-face discussions with the

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Transport Secretary. -- the RMT. Do you see Chris Grayling as part of

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the solution of the problem. He has had his hand on this dispute and MPs

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who are biased toward trade unions have decided to take up the fight

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against trade unions whereas before they had a meeting in Parliament in

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June with everything from Southern all the wanted to do was see the

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back of Southern because at that point they recognised Southern what

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basket case who were incapable of running a service. It targets of

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attacking trade unions seems to be more appealing to Conservative MPs

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in the South East. That is where the whole process has been distorted.

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Chris Grayling is behind this. We will have to leave it there for the

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moment but thank you. You are very welcome.

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We'd like to know what you think about the planned strikes which take

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or do you feel that they still have a case to fight

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over their safety concerns with driver only operated trains?

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A warning more homeless people could die in the cold weather

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this winter unless more help is given to rough sleepers.

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The troubled Thanet amusement park, Dreamland, has been given the

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go-ahead to borrow up to ?10 million from a hedge-fund based

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The investment's being made as an attempt to keep

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Dreamland opened 18 months ago after a major restoration project

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and has struggled to generate cash from paying visitors.

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A financial expert has called the new loan "very concerning"

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for a business "that has always looked very weak".

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Dreamland opened with a lot of public money invested -

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?18 million by Thanet council, including ?6

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million from the Heritage Lottery Fund.

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But the private operators could not attract enough visitors

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and went into administration and are now relying on a big loan for

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It is a long way from the original vison of the park

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being run by a not-for-profit organisation.

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Now that we have got Arrowgrass investing ?10 million

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that means it is likely that those profits will not find their way back

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into Thanet and its economy, but will find themselves in the bank

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accounts of wealthy people who have invested in Arrowgrass, and that is

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Dreamland opened in June 2015 after an ?18 million

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But by last August the operator's owed

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creditors ?8 million and now the administrators say a loan of up

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to 9.9 million will be used to invest

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in the site to get it ready for sale.

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Looking at the size and value of the business and

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the size of the loan, it does seem out of proportion

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will have to be asked as to what the overall thrust

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and idea of this business proposition will be.

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Arrowgrass refused to comment but supporters of Dreamland

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It is a significant milestone in the life of Dreamland.

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We know that Dreamland needs a lot more investment, it would always be

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We know the lease protects its life as a

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Heritage amusement park and we think it is a good thing.

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Mixed views in Margate on whether more

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It has had its day and it is time to move on.

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This is the tiny little lifeline we have, so let's give it our all,

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Thanet Council said it was aware administrators were working

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with investors to secure the future of the park.

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Simon Jones is in Margate and joins us now, So Simon,

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Some big questions tonight such as Dua Arrowgrass ultimately want to

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take over the running of the park, they would not comment. Is it

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financially viable in the long-term? Visitor numbers have gone up so you

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get them for free and pay per right but if it is not financially viable

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could the site to be sold off for housing? The council says that will

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not happen but it is certainly clear it is set to be in a lot year for

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Dreamland. -- another turbulent year.

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It's emerged that up to 34 new wind turbines could be built off Margate

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as part of plans to extend the Thanet offshore windfarm.

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When it opened in 2010 it was the largest offshore

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Owners Vattenfall say the new turbines would be taller

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than the 100 that already exist, potentially almost

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It's been revealed today that a lorry in Kent where a stowaway

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was found crushed to death under Christmas catalogues had been

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searched only a short while earlier by French authorities in Calais.

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An inquest heard that piles of the books had fallen

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on the unidentified man, believed to be in his 30s,

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who's body was discovered at the Airport cafe truck stop

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in Sellindge, near Ashford in October last year.

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Our reporter Leanne Rinne has been at the inquest

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other migrants had been removed from the same lorry

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Yes, that's right. The inquest was told the lorry driver heard of

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people trying to get onto the back of the lorry while he approached the

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port of Calais actually pulled over and the French authorities removed

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them migrants from the vehicle. Along the side of the lorry was a

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large slash so it was not secure and police are not sure if the man found

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dead was aboard the lorry at the time of the search or not. The

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assistant coroner said this was a tragic accident. He said he was

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probably somebody's son, brother, friend.

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It's been revealed that one of our busiest hospitals didn't

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This programme has seen a report into Fire Safety Management

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at the Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham.

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It reveals that along with the lack of fire drills,

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fire wardens haven't been trained, fire alarms not maintained

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and many of the buildings would not be able to contain a fire.

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The hospital trust say they are now

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"on the way to being fully compliant"

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Our Health Correspondent Mark Norman reports.

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It is a busy hospital, more than 4000 staff caring for 400,000 people

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locally and they see half a million patients a year. What would they be

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safe if there was a fire? The public should not be worried. Since I have

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been here we have done a thorough review and is no safety issues and

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never have been to both patients, staff and the public. This report

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highlighted some serious issues. It said had been no fire because of

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rehearsals in the past 2-3 years and there were no plans to have any,

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they had not been -- they had been no fire warden training and there

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was limited evidence of maintenance of the fire alarm system. Add to

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that problems with risk assessment, fire doors damaged and unclear

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evacuation procedures. It is a bit quite serious. Training is an

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essential component of the work of all staff and if it is all that long

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operational staff it would not be a problem but if it is people pooling

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of high dependency patients it could be life threatening. -- dealing with

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high dependency. We have reviewed the processes and looked at the

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maintenance regimes and evacuation procedures and updated the pilot

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policies and done a significant amount of work on fire training with

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all staff. The trust tell us things have improved for a number of years,

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fire safety was a major concern here. The last fire drill was in

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December with the more planned this January. -- three more planned.

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Our top story tonight: Direct talks are to take place between the RMT

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Union and the Transport Secretary as the Southern Rail

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It comes as a report published by the Office of Road and Rail says

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that driver-only operated trains are safe.

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100 miles for 100 years, how a series of trails to commemorate the

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First World War has been created. It has been a crisp winter day to

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day. Chile through tonight but less called toward the weekend. The

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details later in the programme. -- less cold.

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After two homeless people were found dead on the streets

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of chatham over Christmas, Homeless charities are warning

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there could be further deaths in Kent this winter unless more help

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Medway Council currently provides shelters when temperatures drop

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below zero for three consecutive nights.

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While the council says it's doing as much as it's budget allows,

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local charities say more needs to be done.

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Chrissie Reidy has tonight's Special Report.

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Tributes line the doorway with the homeless man,

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Michael McCluskey, was

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His daughter, who did not want to appear

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on camera, says more emergency shelter

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I hope the council pull their finger out and do something

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about it because I do not want it be someone else's dad or grandad

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Because it is not nice to think your dad was dying there while people

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were walking past them in the street.

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Medway Council only open shelters when temperatures have

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fallen to zero for three consecutive nights,

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but people I have spoken to

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say communication has been so poor and there

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is no way of knowing when

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they are open or even getting to them.

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I tweeted the council in November and said to them, what is the policy

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And they said, "we are advised to take guidance from the

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Instead of just sticking their head outside and going, "oh, my God,

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Just days after Michael McCluskey was discovered police were

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called to the death of another homeless man in the next street.

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They've got to wait three consecutive nights for it to fall

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below zero before they will put them somewhere.

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This should not be going on, it is upsetting, it is

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Charities say the system is failing those in desperate need.

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So whenever somebody goes for help they get help.

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They get help to prevent homelessness or if they become

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homeless they get emergency assistance into accommodation or

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night shelter right there and then because we have seen the tragic

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consequences if that does not happen.

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We need the council to engage with the groups out here on a

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regular basis, meeting the homeless, speaking to them and looking after

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them, we could do with sitting down with the council.

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They should have to come down and speak to people and see

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Currently we have got to tell them you're homeless.

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With numbers of rough sleepers up 30% in

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the last few many say emergency provision is now made more than

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Almost a third of new teachers who started jobs in English

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state schools in 2010, had left the sector by last year.

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Now the Valley Invicta Academies Trust, based in Maidstone,

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has devised a unique way to try to protect themselves from

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The trust is encouraging and financing current students

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to return to their former school - as teachers.

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It's thought they're the first trust in the country to do it.

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Our Education Correspondent Bryony Mackenzie has more.

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In my first year seven class one of them asked me

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if she needed to use a

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So that was quite an interesting question.

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My name is Amy and I'm a sixth form student.

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Amy has been at Invicta Grammar for seven years.

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She is now considering moving to the very front of the class as a

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And did you not put any of the parchment paper?

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This is an amazing school so coming back

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to a good school to become a

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I like helping out and showing them what to do as well.

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It is nice passing on what I learned through my

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The trust runs eight schools in the Maidstone area

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and students who show an interest in teaching can get funding towards

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their university course and preference over other graduates for

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An hour a day I'm with my A-level physics teacher, him teaching

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year 13 so I'm sitting observing lesson and sitting

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We're educating all these young individuals, very talented, great

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Quite often you get lots of people who go

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off to university and then do not even come back to Kent, and so this

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was a way of getting them to come back to Kent but, most importantly,

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get them to come back to us so that we have got rich talent.

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If they change their minds, well, they do have to hand

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But keeping careers in the family, it is hoped it

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Kent County Cricket club have appointed a new coach. Walker spent

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the last three seasons as assistant to Jimmy Adams who left the club in

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September. The 43-year-old batsmen who made his debut for the company

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as a teenager said he is delighted to be working alongside him.

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30 trails through towns and countryside in Kent will lead

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walkers to discover places, people and events which were

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The plan is to research and mark the trails so that people can

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It's called 100 miles for 100 years - the idea

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stemmed from commemorations for the centenary of the conflict.

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The proposal will go ahead this year after being awarded a grant

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There is an awful familiarity about pictures like these. It is the First

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World War film on Cameron is to show people at home for the first time

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what the war abroad was like. -- films on movie cameras. Less

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well-known scenes of things at home where Kent was the front line.

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Military training, arrival of refugees, embarkation is, they were

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all part of life in the county closer to the action. They were

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arriving in September 1914, you would have seen the 20,000 Belgian

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refugees who arrived at the harbour to be welcomed by the local

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families. This woman is leading a project designed to bring the story

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of World War I and came to life. 30 new walks in pounds from Dartford to

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Dover will lead to stories of what was happening. The idea is to get

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people to go into the local area, so many of us just walk by without

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looking up and realising the significance of the building, not

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realising something important happened there. She thought about

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him all her life, even until the last few days... The idea stemmed

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from the making of the film in which people talk about their own families

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are at war like Richard, a Folkestone farrier. I thought it was

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wonderful. I love the forge, the smell, which do not get now. 100

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years on this is very much a legacy project and it has received funding

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from the Heritage lottery fund. 30 trails across Kent Tele future

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generations the stories of the First World War as get out and about. --

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telling the future. It is a working project with the first trail due to

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be ones in the next few weeks. The story of the folks at home revealed

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in the places that they knew. It's been a day of dramatic

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developments in the Southern rail dispute - the rail regulator has

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ruled that driver only operation is safe and the RMT has

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agreed to direct talks Speaking on this programme,

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Paul Cox from the RMT Union said: It calls into question the integrity

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of the regulator and leads us to believe that is no safety body left

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in the country that is not under the influence of the train companies and

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the Government. Charlie Rose is in

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Brighton this evening. Charlie, Hugh Merriman's suggesting

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new legislation could be introduced to end further strike action,

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how likely is this? We are hearing some commentators are

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suggesting this is not just a growing issue for local MPs but also

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a problem for Chris Grayling, whose own job as Transport Secretary could

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be on the line if a resolution is not found soon. The local MP could

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be looking to bring in legislation from next month banning this sort of

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strike action, he said it would be a last resort but it would take at

:25:17.:25:20.

least one year come into effect and that is not much comfort to

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commuters who are expecting another bout of strike action on Tuesday.

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Lots of your comment on this. Chris Webb says is totally unacceptable

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and the public should be held to ransom like this. We're back to the

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bad old days of the 1970s and 80s. Sheila says she is wheelchair

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dependent and uses Southern a few times a year and if there is no

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guard who will help me on and off the train on an unmanned station?

:25:53.:25:57.

Had concerns of her and her husband. Mike Parker says straight should

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never have taken place and driver only trained clearly work otherwise

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networks that have used the system for years problems. Another says

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people with usually prefer another member of staff on board the train

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for safety reasons. Perhaps the solution could be all trains over

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four carriages long could have a second member of staff.

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And we're holding a Question Time style debate about the

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If you live or work in the south-east and want to take part

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at the Chequer Mead Theatre in East Grinstead this Sunday then

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send an email to with your name, address and daytime phone number.

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The programme airs on Monday the 9th of January at 7.30pm here on BBC1.

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It is time to check the weather now. It will be less cold toward the

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weekend but that goes hand in hand with more cloud and some rain.

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Earlier it was a beautiful but bitterly cold. The hard frost to

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start the day, lots of sunshine by the afternoon and temperatures not

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much above five Celsius. In two tonight, still those clear skies

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those temperatures plummet. Overnight lows of minus two Celsius.

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Slightly milder along the coast. The main difference through tonight is

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we will see some stubborn mist and fog to start tomorrow. Once again a

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frosty start and that mist and fog stubborn to clear and eventually we

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see that rain but it is moving slower than initially thought so we

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will start to see it during the evening. Mostly dry during the day,

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frosty and foggy to start the day. Some sunshine around about lunchtime

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but by the afternoon we see more cloud cover, winds are

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south-westerly, temperature is a little less cold. Friday and

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Saturday, we see that warm front bringing some patchy rain, the

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little heavy at times. Cleaving through towards the early hours of

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Saturday and it means a much milder night. Temperatures only dropping a

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degree or sought from daytime values.

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Looking towards the weekend, some rain first thing, a damp start but

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mostly staying dry. Feeling milder, rather cloudy, perhaps some rain at

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times but as high pressure builds it is looking increasingly settled

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through Saturday. Temperatures once again in double figures. Similar

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story on Sunday before it turned wet and windy on Monday.

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That is from us for this evening. I was about to see exactly the same

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thing! I will be back at 8pm and 10:30pm. See you then.

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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.

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