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Welcome to South East Today, I'm Natalie Graham.

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No deal - Aslef drivers reject the settlement union bosses thrashed

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It is an believable how there is still a dispute and no resolution. I

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pay a lot of money to travel to write in everyday I do think the

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service we get, it is ridiculous. We'll be live in Brighton with

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the latest reaction and analysis. The young mum killed by cervical

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cancer, never offered a smear test Because of the age she was at, it is

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not just her losing her life it is her four children who are having to

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suffer because they have no ma'am. Also in tonight's programme:

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the ambulance trust at the centre of bullying allegations -

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we've learnt that managers discussed The bare naked ladies causing

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confusion in a Sussex village. And we are not alone, Sir Winston

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Churchill's thoughts on alien life revealed in a newly discovered

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document. Southern rail users face

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the prospect of more crippling strikes as train drivers rejected

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a deal brokered by The deal - aimed at resolving

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a long-running row over driver-only trains, promised to end one

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of Britain's longest and most For nearly a year the dispute has

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paralysed train services in the south east, causing

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businesses to close and resulting in travel chaos

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for millions of commuters. In a moment we'll be live

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at Brighton Station and at ASLEF's head quarters in London but first

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John Young has this report. After ten months of dispute, 28 days

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of strikes 13 days of talks in 40 days of hope that it might be near

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an end tonight the deadlock is more stark than have. The reaction from

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commuters in Brighton once word began to spread... It is ridiculous,

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it has been like this from was one year. Fellow strikes and industrial

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action and it is unbelievable how it is still, there is a dispute and no

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resolution. I pay a lot of money to travel to brighten everyday and the

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service that we get is ridiculous. Need to sort themselves out and

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change the company to be honest. I not impressed at all. It is a good

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thing, it is... What is the point in going on strike unless you hold out

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for what you -- what your true beliefs and principles are? The

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result was a stunning blow for the readers of Aslef, members nearly

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always accept the recommendations but not this time. Although it was

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close. Just under 700 members voted, issued under 300 of the membership.

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It was a vote of loyalty, and -- from the drivers union to the

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conductor 's union. Athletically drivers obviously share the concerns

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of our members, the deal on offer did not guarantee a second safety

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critical person in every train. Clearly this was not acceptable.

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Passengers were hoping for a different outcome but there have

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been warnings that might end like this. Earlier this week and Aslef

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drivers still led why they simply could not accept the deal that still

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allowed trains to be driven in exceptional circumstances about the

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second member of staff on board. He spoke to us anonymously. The content

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we have at that eventually someone will get trapped in the door, the

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driver would see them on the cameras which are very poor at the moment

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and we will end up in court. Neither Sun nor has left's leaders were

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giving interviews but local MPs were. The unions must understand the

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impact they are having on the people they serve and the people I

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represent. Industrial action is not the way to settle the points at

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issue here. What is at stake is passenger safety and I am persuaded

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that when you have a very long trains, 12 carriage trains, when you

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have them increasingly going through stations that are not staffed

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because staff are being cut back then if there is an accident god

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forbid the having the second safety critical person on the train helps

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to save lives and that is the bottom line. In a statement Southern Rail

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said it was hugely disappointed by the news, conductors have been given

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heart. Passengers remain caught in the middle.

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Well industrial action has been affecting Southern since

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last April - when conductors who are members

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of the RMT union first walked out - over changes to the roles

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of conductors and claims that driver only operated trains are unsafe.

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Aslef members first walked out in December -

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leading to the cancellation of ALL the operator's

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Two weeks ago - after lengthy talks hosted by the TUC,

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ASLEF's leaders announced they'd reached a deal with Southern

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It's THAT deal which members have now voted,

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Passengers have put up with terrible performance and inconvenience to the

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lives for months and months, this look like a resolution had been

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found and now it seems like we are not quite there yet so it is

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extremely important that all the parties get back around the table

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and ensure that a quick resolution is found.

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Well it's not just strike action by Aslef and the RMT commuters

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have had to deal with, Southern's poor performance,

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combined with industrial action, has cost the UK economy.

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And it's been calculated more than 300,000 south east

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commuters have been affected by the on going problems.

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Well let's cross to our reporter in Brighton John Young.

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John where do the interested parties go from here?

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All of the interested parties it seems have been issuing statements

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today but once you read then you realise they do not add much.

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Southern have said we will be seeking to meet with the union as

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soon as possible to see how we can agree a new way forward and then

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they say we need to understand the issues which led to this outcome.

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Many people are saying surely you know what the issues are, they have

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been out there for ten months. RMT have issued a statement saying let's

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get back around the table, the strike appears to be going ahead on

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the 22nd of February next Wednesday. Interestingly, most interestingly,

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the government has issued a statement and in the past they kept

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their head down but the statement says Ray Little, it says the union

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leadership must now return to talks at work with the members. In summary

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tonight the same phrases and arguments, the same mutual

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incomprehension and four passengers the same sense of despair.

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Well Briohny Williams joins from outside ASLEF's

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I understand you been speak to officials there?

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Yes, a source told me this evening that they are keen to get back

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around the negotiating table as soon as possible, which of course is a

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view that is echoed by Southern bosses. In more developments this

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afternoon Nick Cash from the RMT said he is writing to the TUC head

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saying that all parties need to be involved in any discussions if an

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agreement is going to be made that can finally put an end to this

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long-running dispute. Well you've been reacting

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to this story on email Neil Monnery tweeted - "looks

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like this nightmare will never end". Margaret Sharkey approves

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of the ballot results - she says "solidarity to Aslef

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members - keep the trains Safe". Nicholas Harvey tweeted -

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"hastag SouthernFail - You can get the latest on the BBC

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local live pages in Kent and Surrey. In a moment: we meet a residents

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of the first council homes to be The family of a young mother of four

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from Gravesend who died of cervical cancer -

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is calling for the screening 24-year-old Sadie Blackston

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from Gravesend had been to her GP several times complaining of pain

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and bleeding, but her family says she was never offered a smear test,

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because screening only routinely She was only diagnosed

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after she collapsed. Just a year after being diagnosed

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with cancer, Sadie Blackston It has really heartbroken me,

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I was there for it all I can't even tell you the pain,

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every day I wake up through the days and when I go to sleep,

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just, she has taken a massive Currently, women aged

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between 25 and 64 are offered regular cervical screening,

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the cancer affects more than 3000 women per year,

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among them 65 people under 25. Sadie's family believed that had

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she been offered the test at a younger age the cancer

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could have been prevented. I think it should be offered,

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because of the age she was at, it is not just her losing her life

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it is also her four children because they have no mum now

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So the age should be lowered from 25 But the UK national screening

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committee has concluded testing under the age of 25 can do more harm

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than good, it can cause too many false positive results leading

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to unnecessary treatment. As a charity we are guided by Best

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practice, we are guided by research and evidence as the current evidence

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shows that in countries where screening is offered

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at younger ages there is not much difference in terms of outcomes

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of patients saw in the UK we are guided by the evidence

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and the evidence says that screening But Sadie's family say that

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in her memory the fight goes on. Simon Jones is in Northfleet,

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where Sadie's family lives. What chance do they have of getting

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a change in the screening age? I think a lot of people will have a

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good deal of sympathy for the family but in reality it is going to be a

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tough fight because they would have to change the opinion of the medical

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profession. At the moment it is the opinion of doctors and charities at

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25 is the best age to start screening and what they have already

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achieved is getting people talking about cervical cancer. The family

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told me a friend of theirs, women in their 40s, has decided to go for her

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first ever screening having heard about the death so some success

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there. Medics say the key thing for young people is to watch out for the

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tell-tale symptom of heavy bleeding but city's family say they noticed

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that in her case, she did seek out but it did not manage to save her

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life and that is why they are determined to carry on with this

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fight after her death. A lorry driver has admitted causing

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the death of a pensioner after colliding with her bike

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in a Kent village. 73-year-old Barbara Phipps

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died after the incident on the A2 London Road in Teynham

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almost a year ago. William Magee, who's 59

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and from Chelmsford has pleaded guilty to causing death

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by careless driving. The family of a kayaker found dead

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after going missing at sea say they will be "forever grateful"

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to the people who helped Dominic Jackson, who

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grew up in Uckfield, disappeared two weeks ago off

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the Scottish coast. His family have set up a charity

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in his name to promote sea safety. They're raising awareness

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about Personal Locator Beacons, which they believe could have

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saved Dominic's life. BBC South East Today has learned

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a SECAMB board level meeting was held two weeks ago -

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at which an action plan to tackle harassment and bullying

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was discussed and agreed. The revelation comes

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after allegations of "horrific, cowardly and devastating" acts

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of bullying against staff handling 999 calls at the South East Coast

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Ambulance Trust's c all centre in Coxheath, near Maidstone

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from where our reporter Ian what more do know

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about this action plan? We know that in that board meeting

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as we say it was discussed and we know that no action plan to tackle

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bullying and harassment has actually been agreed at board level. There in

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mind that the allegations we are talking about the back to 2014. The

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trust says that it has dealt with those bullying claims at the time

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and has made changes that are necessary. Earlier this week we

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found out that it has launched an independent enquiry to be carried

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out by workplace conflict experts. That is not good enough frankly for

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the union. It is calling for an independent government enquiry and

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it says that only then will we know whether or not the tackling of the

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bullying claims and harassment that has been taking place in the

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building behind me actually been achieved.

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300,000 commuters are bracing themselves for more destruction

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after Southern train drivers rejected a deal brokered by the

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leaders of the union Aslef. 54% of them rejecting the deal which would

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raise the role of second member of staff on trains. And the recall

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unions which proved too much for some residents in a Sussex village.

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And after in this foggy start to the day it brightened up. Well the sunny

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weather last? The details in the forecast later in the programme.

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If you have a story you think we should be covering

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on South East Today, we'd like to hear from you.

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You can call us on 0345 300 37 47, or send us an e-mail

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We are also on facebook or you can tweet us,

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The first council houses to be built in Medway for forty years

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were officially opened by the housing minister today.

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Centenary Gardens in Gillingham is being touted as one

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of the largest council-built energy efficient bungalow

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It's become increasingly rare for local authorities to build homes.

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Over the past decade, 490 have been completed in Surrey,

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And across the whole of East and West Sussex -

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including Brighton Hove - just 20 have been built.

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Our correspondent Yvette Austin has been to meet one

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of the new residents for tonight's Special Report.

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Sylvia Bennett moved into her brand-new council hall in October,

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suffering from various health problems, she struggled to get

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I couldn't carry things upstairs, I had to throw it up the stairs.

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And then sort of get upstairs on my hands and knees sort of thing.

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But it is very nice and much better for me and something

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I have always dreamed of, having a bungalow with patio

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Something I never thought I would ever have.

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There are 32 bungalows on this site plus 26 more dotted about the local

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authority area designed for people with mobility problems,

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it is an ?8.5 million project, one of the largest of its kind

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These homes and a few others on smaller plots in the first true

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council houses to be built in Medway for more than 40 years.

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The idea is to allow elderly people to downsize,

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freeing up the larger council houses for families.

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And today the Housing minister Gavin Barwell

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He liked what he saw but surely under the government's right to buy

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scheme these council homes designed to help the needy could end up

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in private ownership in less than five years.

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Right to buy is really important, it is a way for people in the future

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Housing association homes to be able to get onto the ownership ladder

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and what we have done which I think is critical is to say that

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when someone buys the home through right to buy the council

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must get our money to build a replacement home.

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It is always a big ask about the right to buy,

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because of course you do not get the housing back for

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Some people will use the right to buy but others will not

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because there's so much that meets their needs and the rents

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are quite reasonable and therefore I think there is a very limited

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But with a waiting list of nearly 6000 people eligible

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for social housing in Medway, Sylvia knows she is one

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It was meant to be an exhibition focussing on Romance -

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but the Cube gallery in Hassocks was forced to take down half a dozen

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victorian photographic prints after a number of people complained

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The gallery owners have now put the pictures up again -

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but with a warning to visitors that the exhibition does

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They are photographs of unknown women by unknown photographers, one

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believed to be Victorian and the others from around 1915. Complaints

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that they were disgusting revolting and offensive meant they were taken

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down. It didn't upset me, I don't know whether it is because it is

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black and white or because a photograph says something different

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to people, I can't work it out myself. It is very interesting. The

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photos form part of an exhibition celebrating romance in part. They

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are absolutely beautiful. You can understand why people would find

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them offensive. I don't see any problems with it. I would not be

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offended. What is interesting is the our other depictions of nudity in

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the exhibition at the paintings or sculptures and none of them have led

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to any complaints. The pictures were removed for a week

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but the colour was contacted by more people saying they should be put

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back. We got together and talked about it and thought that OK with

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all of the background and the fuel that has gone on we will show them.

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Since the first days of photography the nude was a source of inspiration

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for those who adopted the new medium. In today's society we can

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tell quickly the difference between what is pornographic and what might

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just be considered Lanner photography or something innocuous

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and these pictures were certainly the latter. Visit the way a subject

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is portrayed nudity itself that is unsettling? The exhibition will

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continue until March. Sir Winston Churchill

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is of course best known as a politician, who led britain

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through the second world war. But less well known was his

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interest in science, and now an article he wrote

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at Chartwell in 1939 on the eve of war, called

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'Are We Alone in the Universe?', has been been rediscovered,

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in the National Churchill Museum In it he speculates

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on there being planets orbiting other stars,

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and if they had water, and were the right distance away -

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could potentially support alien life, all theories that

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are remarkably close to the latest We know that in every years of the

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20th century this world was being watched closely by intelligences

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greater than man. The myth goes this radio production cost panic in 30s

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America but for one already avid reader of HG Wells it simply fuelled

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his voracious appetite for science and science fiction. At the

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observatory, an interest in what is out there is taken as read and

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Professor Kevin Ruane who has written about Churchill and science,

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is not surprised you alien life captured his imagination. What I

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think we have to be careful of is the idea that he believes in little

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green men in Martian invasions and so on. That trivialises the extent

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to which this man took science very seriously. That particular article

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being discussed is incredibly well informed scientifically, this is not

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a mere Gabler, this is someone who has a brilliant facility with words

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and he marries that power to the kind of research that he has access

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to. For many at the time this is what sci-fi meant, Churchill 's

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interest centred on what the future really might bring and says the

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astrophysicist discovered this last essay he was clearly more science

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and fiction. He addresses this just like a scientist today would,

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starting with defining life, then OK whatever the necessary ingredients

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for life? He identifies liquid water which is the same thing we do today.

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One day, Rod Churchill, it may be possible to travel to the moon or

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Venus and Mars and his conclusion of the universe was that it is unlikely

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we are alone. Well let's return to tonight's top

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national and local news stories. A clear majority of train drivers

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has rejected a deal negotiated by their Aslef union to settle

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the dispute with Southern Rail Southern Rail says it's

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hugely disappointed. Well let's go back to John Young

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who's at Brighton Station. With the other union in the dispute,

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the RMT, calling a strike next week, are commuters in line

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for more misery? There is no doubt they are facing

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more misery, which brings us back to the heart of why is this happening

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in one statement issued that was perhaps under the radar came from

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the real delivery grip, but they particularly well-known group, who

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represent other well-known companies and they said this is all about new

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technology and smarter ways of delivering a modern real service

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that the whole country needs. So for them this misery perhaps is about

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improving services across the country but for so many other people

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as we have seen so many unions and politicians and some passengers the

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safety issue is more important and this is not a price worth paying.

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That is where we are today but as you said more ahead -- more meetings

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ahead and the schedule for the 22nd of February.

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And back to Briony Williams who is at the Aslef headquarters in central

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London. When do you think the unions and Southern are likely to get back

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around the table? The simple answer is that we just

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don't know at the moment, although I have spoken to the conciliation

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service but those talks would resume and take place and they told me they

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have not heard from either party at the moment but the doors are always

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open so that the moment it is just more uncertainty for passengers. At

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least the weather will give us something to be cheerful about. We

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will come to that in a moment. But to remind you you can get the latest

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on the BBC local life pages in Kent and Sarah -- Kent and Sussex and

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have your say on the real situation on Facebook and Twitter.

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Now we look into whether! Which has been lovely and springlike. By

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Monday we could have highs of 15. Temperatures really warming up.

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Today of course we have quietly misty bogey start, clear blue skies.

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The most part during the afternoon. Temperatures around 12 degrees. So

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tonight we have a weakening weather fronts there will be more cloud when

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we hold onto clear skies, lighter winds and once again there will be

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missed in full. The rain is not particularly heavy for some of us

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there will be a can start to the day and again very mild. The overnight

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temperatures are around seven or 8 degrees and those are the sorts of

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values we would expect to see during the afternoon at this time of year.

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Very mild, misty and Mark yet to start the day, by the afternoon the

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front of cleared and we have this area of high pressure but not quite

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as much sunshine yesterday. Some sunny spells but we do hold onto a

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lot of this cloud cover, it stays mild and by the afternoon

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temperatures once again widely should be in double figures, picking

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up to around ten or 11 degrees and again with these really liked

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south-westerly breeze is. From Friday to Saturday again it is mild,

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overnight temperatures only dropping to around 5 degrees so where we see

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the clear skies once again there will be some mist and fog around and

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temperatures in more rural spots perhaps dropping to four or five but

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you will really notice it is a mild misty start to the weekend. As she

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has a Saturday and Sunday it is going to be stay miles, mostly we

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should be dry but there is the risk that we could be seeing some rain on

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Sunday morning. It will be mostly dry and during the afternoon the

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temperatures will constantly be reaching highs of 1011 degrees and

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particularly for Saturday the should be decent spells of sunshine as

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well. The weakening weather front I mentioned, we should start a scene

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from Saturday to Sunday, once again a mile wide with overnight

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temperatures of eight or 9 degrees. That front clears to Sunday with

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temperatures reaching 11 or 12 degrees, the winds starting to pick

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up but into Monday, comfortably beat could well be seen highs 15 or 16

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degrees. It stays breezy with outbreaks of rain as we go into

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Tuesday, temperatures staying in the mid teens. Over the next couple of

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days perhaps not quite as much sunshine but stay mild and that I

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mentioned in Monday it is cloudy with temperatures once again in the

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mid-teens. Not looking too bad overall. That

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aid from us this evening. We will be back with the late bulletin.

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Goodbye. Two challenges await you today,

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and our genre is Landscape. The conditions are a wee bit

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challenging. I've really got to

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convince the judges It's colourful -

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but it was meant to be muted.

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