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from the west That is all

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End of an era. This was always inevitable as work comes to an end.

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A sad day. The trade, let down. Political pawns in the coalition

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game. We will have reaction from the dockyard and hear from MPs in

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Westminster. "We're political pawns to save

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Scottish jobs". The view of just one of the workers reacting to the

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bombshell that shipbuilding is to end at Portsmouth dockyards. Welcome

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to a special edition of South Today which is coming from a city reeling

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from today's news. Let's have a look at some of the

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headlines today. BAE Systems once to show `` wants to lose 1000 jobs.

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3000 workers will remain to do maintenance work and training. And

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Portsmouth is still home to the Navy. The Government says it will

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spend more than ?100 million to cushion the blow but critics

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question whether that's new money. A decision had been long awaited. It

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has been discussed many times. In the end, the announcement was

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brought forward because the leaks were coming out. Steve Humphreys has

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been in ports all day. The grey miserable weather in

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Portsmouth today has matched the mood of the city's shipyard workers.

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A large number of highly skilled jobs are being lost and that's a

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huge blow for the region's economy. Tonight many questions are being

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asked about why Portsmouth is suffering the lion's share of the

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job cuts. There has been a question hanging

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over the shipyard for over a year . Some of the shipyard workers spoke

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as they left the naval base. It is a sad day for the loss of work in the

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South. It is a political decision. I have worked in this yard since I was

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16, 26 years. First time this has happened to me. It would be

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devastating. About six months work left. It is not unexpected. We knew

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it was coming. BAe is cutting jobs across the country. As work on the

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Navy's new aircraft carriers comes to an end, work will fall sharply.

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But some of the aircraft work that Portsmouth was due to carry out will

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now be switched to Scotland. We trade and let down. Political pawns

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in the Tory coalition game. Shipyard workers in Portsmouth had been

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hoping they would get contracts to build some of the Navy's new type 26

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frigates. But all of that work will now be done on the Clyde in

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Scotland. BAe says the decisions are based on industrial analysis, not on

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politics. I understand the impact of the announcement in ports mouth and

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Glasgow. `` ports mouth my job is to work to reduce the impact of these

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announcement. Around 11,000 military and civilian personnel. Be employed

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at Portsmouth. The government says another ?100 million will be

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invested in the naval base to prepare for the arrival of the

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aircraft carriers in a few years time.

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The decision ends a tradition of ship building in Portsmouth

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stretching back five centuries. It was King John who ordered the

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construction of the dockyard 800 years ago. In 1495, Henry VII built

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the world's first dry dock in Portsmouth. Henry VIII had his

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flagship, the Mary Rose, built there. The yard's heyday was before

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the First World War with super battleships like the Dreadnought.

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But there was decline after the Second World War and the last

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complete warship was finished there in 1967. A revival followed the

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Vospers move from Southampton a decade ago. But that will end next

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year. So shipbuilding being consigned to history. With me now is

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Gerald Vernon Jackon, the city's Liberal Democrat council leader. If

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Scotland becomes independent, the last war shipbuilding yard in

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England will be shut down. We are the last place. Are you suggesting

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that this was a political decision, not based on commerce? If it was not

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a political decision, ministers have been hugely irresponsible. Scotland,

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in one year, may be independent and then the boil Navy would have no

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shipyard is left in England to build complex warships. That would mean we

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would have to go with the Royal Navy to buy from abroad, from France or

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Germany. Let's talk about closer to home. This was expected and talked

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about two years ago. What are you doing at what have you done to

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prepare for this day because you knew it was coming? We put pressure

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on the government to keep the yard open until we knew the future of

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Scotland. Unfortunately, ministers have turned a deaf ear to all our

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suggestions. There is still 3000 workers here for BAE Systems, they

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are still a big employer. Yes, it is a big employer, there are 11,000

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jobs in the dockyard, now there are 10,000. Jobs sacrificed here for the

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sake of the referendum in Scotland, you are saying? I do not know. I do

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not know if that was the decision. The decision could have been put off

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until we knew if Scotland was going to be independent or not. For the

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Royal Navy to have to go to foreign countries to buy their ships, as me

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know happen, is not the place the royal navy should be in. Thank you.

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The debate has raged today about whether this announcement was a

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political or economic decision. Let's cross to Westminster to join

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our Political Editor Peter Henley. The unions say this as a political

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game with ports mouth as the sacrificial lamb. But party leaders

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are seeing it was and economic decision. We always knew there were

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going to be jobs that would go because the aircraft carrier project

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was so fast. But those new orders could have been done in Portsmouth.

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Yes, but because of the disastrous contract signed by the last

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government, there was not enough money. Was it your fault? This

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problem has been coming for some time. In three years, they have done

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nothing to get more jobs. They are taking work that was going to be

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done in Portsmouth and sending it to Scotland. We have been sold down the

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river. It does not mean it was a political decision, but ministers

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have got their fingerprints all over it. The key to this is the jobs.

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Making sure that jobs are protected. There are still 11,000 jobs in the

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dockyard, we need to make sure they are protected. Is there enough help

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coming from the government? We will see when the city deal comes

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forward. BAE Systems had been the provider of skills for the whole of

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southern England and we have got to replace that somehow. A lot of

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people who went to work in Portsmouth on the promise of

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long`term jobs, they are not long`term now. We will have more

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later in the programme. We will be looking at the impact on the local

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economy here and also that city deal.

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520 jobs are at risk after pharmaceutical company Novartis

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announced it is to close its site in Horsham in West Sussex. The

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Switzerland based company employs 350 people there in research and

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development posts, together with around 170 contractors. Two years

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ago, the company cut more than 400 jobs at the site.

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Horsham District Council says it is shocked at news of the closure. It

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is one of the largest private employer is here, but not for much

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longer. Novartis halved its workforce here two years ago, but

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now it has started a consultation which could close the site next

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year. In the town, there was shocked at the news. I should think it will

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be a big blow, they must employ a lot of people who come into town. To

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get a job now here is going to be very difficult. It is a large blow.

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There is a lot of employment. The town has a strong economy, but this

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will take sometime to absorb. The company declined our request for an

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interview, but gave an interview to a newspaper. This decision is

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nothing to do with the quality of the work. Some of the work currently

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being done will be moved to other locations around the world. Horsham

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district Council says it is talking to Novartis about the future of the

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site itself and to try to find alternative employment for the

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workers who are losing their jobs. An inquest into the death of a three

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month old baby in Southampton has heard that he suffered a fractured

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skull, and that his father had a previous conviction for child

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cruelty, but the authorities didn't know. The coroner recorded an open

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verdict into the death of Nico Maynard, the fourth such verdict in

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three days of inquests into the deaths of four young children in the

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city. Tom Hepworth is here with the background to this, Tom.

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The first inquest, held on Monday, was that of Blake Fowler. He died in

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2011 from a head injury. He was seven. The coroner said it was

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difficult to know exactly how he died, but his parents were guilty of

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an appalling and disgraceful failure to prioritise his needs. A serious

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case review will now take place. On Tuesday, the coroner looked into the

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deaths of brothers Bradley and Jayden Adams in 2011. Aged four and

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two, they died three months apart. Four weeks before Jayden's death

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their neglectful mother had begged for the children to be taken into

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care because she couldn't cope. They weren't. The coroner recorded an

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open verdict. No`one was prosecuted and there'll now be a serious case

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review. Today, the court heard about three`month old Nico Maynard who

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also died in 2011. He had a fractured skull. His father had

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previously been jailed for child cruelty and social workers described

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him as a massive risk to young children, but authorities in

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Southampton didn't know this. Again no`one was prosecuted. A serious

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case review published last week recommended a new national register

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of those with a history of child violence. It brings the number of

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serious case reviews into how Southampton City Council handled

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child protection cases over the last year to five. Earlier I spoke to

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Keith Makin, the chairman of the Southampton Safeguarding Children

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board. I asked him whether the public can have any confidence in

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child protection measures in the city after these deaths.

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There was a concentration at that point in time. But I am not reading

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into that any indication that there is a systemic problem in the area. I

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don't think we can reflect on that that there is some inherent issue in

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Southampton that is different from anywhere else. Each of these cases

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were different in nature and that is not a connection between them. Five

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Serious Case Reviews over a 12 month period, a lot of people would read

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into that that there is something seriously wrong. I do not know if

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that is the case. The purpose in looking into all these cases very

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thoroughly is to establish whether there could have been some factors

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that led to some difficulty. To what extent did a relatively high

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proportion of agency workers have a bearing on these cases? Whether that

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was a factor at the time, I don't know. It is something I will want to

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look into. There is a partnership across all the agencies who will be

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interested in any connection between staffing levels and outcomes. Does

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that have ramifications on the recruitment and retention of social

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workers? I think it could. But the evidence is that Southampton at the

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moment is being very successful in recruiting well`qualified, able

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social work staff. West Berkshire Council has set out

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how it will save ?10 million over the next two years. Support for

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vulnerable young adults will see its funding reduced by a third. Nearly

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half a million pounds will be taken from care budgets and bus subsidies

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will also be affected. The Conservative`run council said it had

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to deal with significant cuts to its budget.

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It's Children in Need next Friday, November the 15th. All this week,

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we've been taking a look at where your money has been spent. Today,

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Sarah Farmer visits the Eastleigh Young carers.

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This project as children the opportunity to leave behind the

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day`to`day chores and stresses and just be children. We were fortunate

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to receive ?66,000 from children in need. They go on trips and

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activities, meet others in a similar situation. It's nice to forget all

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my worries. My mum can't take me swimming and they can. To be a

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normal child, really, and be free. To actually get some time out to be

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a kid, leave worries behind for a little while and have some fun. That

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is the best gift you can give, really. This group helps give

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disadvantaged, homeless young people the tools to live independently. It

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works with young people who might have experienced difficulties in

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their life. The money from children in need is brilliant. We got ?30,000

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over a three`year period to part fund one of our training

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coordinators. It helps my self`esteem and confidence. I am in

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college, which I did not think I would have got without this place.

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Children In Need really does help local projects in the local

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community. We will focus on more charities

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helped by Children In Need tomorrow. And now the weather.

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Some pretty wet weather to come and some strong gusty winds as well. We

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could see gusts along the coast of 60 mph. There will be some heavy

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bursts of rain in the. But that band of rain will easily and drier

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conditions follow. That cloud is easing away tomorrow morning. Once

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we get rid of that weather, it looks like a decent day with bright and

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sunny spells, perhaps a few showers. It looks like we will have

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a fairly decent day, but still some brisk and blustery winds. A few

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showers first thing on Friday morning, temperatures down to 56

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degrees. `` five or six degrees. For the most part, it will be dry on

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Friday. A similar picture on Saturday as well. We have got some

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wind, but it will ease off on Friday and Saturday. But a front arrives on

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Sunday bringing cloudy conditions with damp outbreaks of rain and

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drizzle. The weekend will be unsettled with bright `` some bright

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and sunny intervals. Here is your summary for the coming days. We

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start with the cloud and dampness first thing tomorrow morning.

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Brighter skies developing. On Friday and Saturday, a few scattered

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showers with sunny intervals. Sunday looking cloudy.

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Thank you. Now let's join Sally who's in Portsmouth tonight with

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more reaction to today's news about the end of shipbuilding at the

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city's dockyard, Sally. Welcome back to Portsmouth, a city

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struggling to come to terms with the news that Navy shipbuilding will end

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here next year. And with it, 1,100 jobs will go. Repair and maintenance

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of the Navy's ships will remain here, and the city will still be the

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home to the surface fleet, including the two new aircraft carriers. We

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asked people on the streets of Portsmouth for their reaction to

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today's news. Absolutely awful. It is all to do with money. They make

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all these big decisions about things and then it all goes down the pan.

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Add dockyard has gone back hundreds of years.

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What will there be from the government? The Government says it

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will give infrastructure grants and set up a maritime task force to help

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cope with the loss of shipbuilding. An announcement is also expected

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shortly on a City Deal for the area as Alex Forsyth explains.

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A City Deal would give Portsmouth more economic power over its future.

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It could directly profit from local business taxes and make decisions on

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growth and investment with less government involvement. Projects

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that could benefit include the Northern Quarter shopping and

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housing complex and the redevelopment of Tipner, where work

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has already started. But this isn't new. Portsmouth and Southampton put

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in a joint bid for this status in January. Today, the Government said

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negotiations are close to conclusion, keen to soften the blow

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of the loss of shipbuilding. It also announced a new maritime forum to

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advise local business on promoting the industry, and ?100 million worth

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of investment in Portsmouth's infrastructure to help it to host

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the new aircraft carriers. The local council claims this isn't new money,

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while the government wants to show it is supporting the city. With

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Beano is the chief Executive of the Hampshire chamber of commerce. It is

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a huge blow to the economy. This stretches further as well. Yes, it

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is a blow for the city. We ought to remember it is a huge blow

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personally for those who found out today that they will lose their

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jobs. We have known about the fact that there will be job losses for

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some time. To find out the extent of that in Portsmouth was the news we

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did not want to hear. But it does go wider than that. How much further?

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How many jobs will be lost or companies in trouble because of

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this? I have heard figures. What sort of figures? 3000 secondary

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jobs. But that is difficult to assess. There is a supply chain that

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works with shipbuilding. That will probably suffer. But some of those

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people will be involved in ship repair. What is your view of this

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100 million that the government is giving? It is not new money in that

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it is not directly related to today's news. It is money that has

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been allocated to help the dockyard adapt and be able to receive the two

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new carriers. It is not tied in to today. Do you think shipbuilding has

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gone for good from Portsmouth? We know it has gone as far as this time

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frame has concerned `` is concerned, but the capacity to build ships will

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remain. Thank you. Let's return to Westminster and get

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a summary of what is being talked about the.

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It is worth wondering what if? What if Portsmouth had remained open and

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one of the yards in Scotland was closed? Would there be more than the

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city deal? Much of that money has already been allocated in the

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Portsmouth area. Thank you. Steve Humphreys has been

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a Portsmouth dockyard for most of the day. A difficult day for

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workers. Yes, the warship building industry

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has always been notorious for having peaks and troughs. To build the new

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aircraft carriers, people always knew there would be paying at the

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end of that project because of the lack of orders coming after. Simply

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not enough to keep the shipyards going around the country. The reason

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for that is the size of the Royal navy fleet. At the time of the

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Falklands, the Royal Navy had 60 frigates and destroyers. Right now,

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there are 19. A very badly far as shipbuilding is concerned, but at

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least we will store around 11,000 jobs at the naval base.

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Thank you. If you want to get in touch, let us know what you think.

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Our colleagues in BBC local radio have a special programme tomorrow

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morning. This is a very difficult day for Portsmouth. A city defined

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by its history. Today, it learned that ship building will become part

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of its past. Hundreds of staff have gone home tonight and certain of

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what their future holds. Good night.

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