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This is World News Today. Pressure on the Indian government


as the wave of public anger over the arrest of anti-corruption


campaigner Anna Hazare intense surprise. The Prime Minister


accuses them of trying to sidestep democracy. It is totally


misconceived. It is fraught with grave consequences for our country.


Libya's rebels fight to cut supply lines to Tripoli. Is the six-month


war there finally nearing the end game?


United nation withdraws all non- essential staff from Syria.


Going underground in Paris. Walking Will come. The challenge to the


Indian government intensified today as thousands of supporters of Anna


Hazare gathered across the country to protest at his arrest. The 74-


year-old spell -- spent the night inside Tihar jail. He has refused


to leave until he is allowed to hold a public hunger strike.


Protesters shouted slogans and waved flags as they marched. Inside,


the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the hunger strike was totally


misconceived. All day long the crowds have been


building up at Tihar jail. Inside it is at Anna Hazare. The 74-year-


old anti-corruption campaigner says he is leading India's second


independence struggle. He is a free man, but he has refused to leave


until the Government agrees to allow him to go ahead with a public


hunger strike to force it to adopt a new anti-corruption that lot.


Negotiations have been taking place, but in Parliament the Prime


Minister has attacked the veteran campaigner. The pass that he has


chosen, is totally misconceived and fraught with grave consequences for


our parliamentary democracy. Our Government does not see any -- seek


any confrontation with any section of society. But when some sections


of society deliberately challenged authority of the government and


parliament, it is the duty of the Government to maintain peace and


tranquillity. Meanwhile a crowd of thousands has been building up at


India Gate in the city centre. If the idea of arresting Anna Hazare


was to stop any demonstrations from going ahead, well, the Government


has clearly failed. Over the last 24 hours we have seen protests


across India, and here in Delhi they are getting bigger and bigger.


The Government is losing the voters and respect.


How does an emerging economy like India deal with corruption? Cannot


learn lessons from other countries in similar situations? Let's speak


to Dr Ruth Kattumuri and also in the studio a representative of 48


Group Club. Led's start with how endemic corruption and bribery is


in India. You have lived in Britain for a long time, but explain your


experiences in India. The problem of corruption in India is like


cancer. It is so endemic that it exists in the all levels. How did


it affect you growing up? I was interested in joining medical


school, I had the marks and I did my part. But I could not get into


medical school because all the way performed and got everything that


was required, and had to pay bribes to get at Bisham to medical school.


I chose not to do that -- I had to pay bribes to get to medical school.


Stephen, looking at what is happening in India and Africa, how


does an emerging economy like India resolve this issue? I do not think


there is a resolution. As economies develop, the industrial revolution


in Britain, Hong Kong in the late that 1960s, these are developing


economies were there is a lot of money around. People see corrupt


ways of trying to make that money and then the Government has to


react to that and bring in mechanisms to do with that


corruptions. That is a process which takes time. It takes


determination to deal with it and the implementation takes time for.


What part does big business play? In terms of multinationals. For his


new legislation coming through now us. Any business that engages in


corrupt practices in the emerging economies is asking for trouble. It


is not a route to successful, sustainable business. In some


countries you either purchase appeared for you are excluded. In


countries like India, China, Brazil, you can make a choice. Most


businesses would make a choice not to involve themselves in corruption.


20 years ago it would not have been so sure, but with Acts passed in


America and Europe it is easier for business to make a decision.


there an element of truth and what the chief economic adviser in India


said, why don't we just legalise this? It would shame, especially


the political class for them a lot of anger is reserved to wards.


is true, because people who give it bribes are as guilty as people who


take bribes. It is important for the international business


community to point it out and make a bigger seen of it about them fact


it is happening. That would reduce some of the endemic problem and


help to reform the system. It is important that the international


community, particularly the business community stands up.


it comes to your business experience, it must be very


difficult for a businessman trying to open up some market there,


seeing other companies pay and get through it and you do not. Have you


ever had to pay a bribe? I have not, and I would not. What is it bad? If


you take someone out to dinner, that is all right. We all know the


big stuff that has happened in the Middle East. What business is faced


with, people come to them and say the way you'll get this business is


by paying of certain people. I had a situation a few years ago were a


pharmaceutical company was told they had to pay bribes to doctors


in Chinese hospitals for a drug to be prescribed. They did not believe


it was true. I thought the middle people were taking the money. Not


withstanding that, there is real corruption and businessmen have to


be strong. You're not dealing with just a simple decision about


sustainability. Listen to with the's story, it is almost


heartbreaking to hear what you had to go through to get to medical


school. For you it has ended well, you were a professor and a teacher.


Things have worked out well for you, but does this affect the whole of


Indian society? Does it go right down to village level? It extends


to all sections, all classes of society. They person in a village


would have to pay bribes to the village head, perhaps. They might


have to pay to get employment, even to get food, on a food programme.


It is also ridden with corruption with officials. It exists across


all levels. Do you have any grounds for optimism? Looking at the


younger generation in India, it is there a sense that with fewer


people leaving India to work and study abroad that people will try


to sort out society there and change things from within? I think


that is what you were seeing now. You cannot go forward without


pulling the forces of the young people who want things to be on a


level playing field. I am delighted that Dr Ruth Kattumuri is there and


that her country is beginning to deal with these issues. Do you have


grounds for optimism? And what to think of how the Government is


handling this? Because it is such a difficult thing to handle, and


because it is so endemic, it is difficult. I think it is important,


one of the positive things India has is its democracy. The process


should follow democratic rules. It is great that young people are


becoming aware and actively speaking out against corruption.


Those are all very important and this has happened because of


awareness, partly because of global connection and partly because the


younger generation has not caught up with the older systems.


Everybody should work together, the Government, the judiciary,


different political parties, they should work together. It will be a


very long process, but it has to be done in a democratic way. Let's


have a look at other news. Nine people have been killed by


roadside bombs in Turkey. Authorities believe the Kurdish


guerrilla group PKK was behind the attacks.


Muslim countries have a Emergency summer and pledged $350 million for


aid to Somalia. More than 12 million people are in need of aid


because of drought. War crimes prosecutors say they


want a two separate trials against Ratko Mladic. Prosecutors in The


Hague say he should be tried for the killing of thousands of Muslims


in Srebrenica at and then for other war crimes in the 1990s.


The UN-backed tribunal has indicted four suspects in connection with


the assassination of Rafiq Hariri in 2005. Four men are members of


Hezbollah who deny involvement. The British Prime Minister has


praised the courts for handing out tough sentences to some of those


involved in last week's writes. On Tuesday, two men were jailed for


four years for using Facebook to try to incite violence. Another was


given 18 months in prison for having a stolen television in his


car. Concerns have been raised about the severity of some of these


sentences. This teenager tried to start a riot


but he walked free from court having been given a night-time


curfew. However yesterday these two men


were jailed for four years for the same crime, using a Facebook


website to incite violence. One was a youth court and there were


different circumstances, but the longer jail terms have proved


controversial. Online, Jordan threatened to smash down this town.


But friends said the trouble did not happen. He was having a laugh


on Facebook. It was only a little grip on Facebook. People who have


done that the riots have not had that kind of sentence. According to


sentencing guideline inciting violent disorder carries a maximum


sentence of five years. If a guideline prevents the correct


sentence from being given in an exceptional case, the judge can


sentence outside of that guidelines. Some solicitors claimed that the


usual rate is not -- way it is not being given to mitigating factors.


Judges here have made clear that there will be longer sentences


because of the aggravating factor that the offences were committed


during widespread disturbances. What happened on our streets was


appalling behaviour and we are sending a clear message it will not


be tolerated. But those who have already been sentenced could return


to court. Some are planning to appeal that jail terms they have


been given. I would expect the Court of Appeal to be asked very


soon to provide a guideline case are cases so that judges can


provide consistent, if severe sentences. Perry went to prison


after calling on line for a riot. It did cause some of the town shops


to close early. You have to send out a message. You cannot go around


starting rumours affecting people's lives and businesses. With many


still to be sentenced, there are families worried including this


mother whose 14-year-old boy has been remanded in custody. Those


people, people have instigated the whole thing, people like that, yes


treated more harsh. But not people you got caught up in it at all. It


was a moment of madness. In the city's damaged by riots, there are


many families shopped at the swift, harsh justice that the Government


promised. They have questioned whether there should be any


pressure from the politicians. Six months on from the first


protests against Colonel Gadaffi, rebels and government troops remain


locked in conflict. Forces loyal are battling for a control of


Zawiya. Gunfire has been reported. Zawiya is strategically important


to Colonel Gadaffi because it sits on a major highway which has a


Each night in Tripoli's main square, royalists gather. The rebels have


advanced to within 30 miles of here, but there is no sign of support.


Are you worried about these reports that the rebel fighters are closing


in on Tripoli? TRANSLATION: We are not worried. We know what is going


on. We talk to our brothers on the front line. If the battle Consett,


we will fight. That is exactly what state television has been calling


for. It wants Gaddafi's supporters to take up weapons and defend the


city. So, in this cafe, an espresso and a shrug. TRANSLATION: I am not


concerned. It is all fine and morale is high.


He it is now six months since the first protest against Colonel


Gaddafi and he is looking more vulnerable than ever. The rebels


insist they can win the war by the end of August and the it here, the


government remains spread fast and says dribbly will not fall. It


could be weeks, even months, of stalemate ahead.


The key battle is for Zawiyah or, at street by street. Capture the


town and the rebels will cut off Tripoli. Gaddafi forces are hitting


back hard. To the east as well, the rebels are taking casualties as


they fight for oil. The towns suffered weeks of fighting back and


forth. Britain and the rest of NATO is hoping Gaddafi will fork soon,


but already some here are warning of the dangerous power vacuum if


that does happen. The United Nations has withdrawn


all non-essential staff from Syria as President Bashar al-Assad pushes


on with repression for protests. Government forces have carried out


operations in a port city for a 5th day. Residents say it security


forces are on that have killed at least 34 people and detained dozens


more since the crackdowns started. Human rights groups claim almost


2000 civilians have been killed in serious since mid-March it.


Let's go to our London studio and speak to Dr Haitham Al-Maleh, head


of the Syrian National Salvation Congress. He was released from the


Syrian jail earlier this year. If I can start with the repression that


is being reported today, 34 people killed in recent hours, do you get


any sense that President Bashar al- Assad is losing his grip at all in


your country? He lost, he is not losing, because he lost everything


not from now, from the time when he started to attack his people, make


war against society, people are against the civilian people. People


on the street have no weapons or guns. They were moving on the


street a piece belly and a very kindly. -- piece belly. President


Bashar al-Assad and his group started killing the people,


arresting people, so this is the situation. We have lost 3,000


people here, not 2000, and 3,000 have disappeared. 25,000 arrested.


They put them in at schools because there is no at schools now, they


are closed. You have been imprisoned by the regime, explain


what conditions are like in that Syrian jails, what were your


conditions like when you were held? The conditions it net cereal bar


two pines: At the normal jails where I was in aggro and the other


jails. Each branch has its own control. No one can go through


these jails and make any research. The daughter is continued from


morning until night. -- beat torture. The jail where I was is a


normal jail and it contains only be criminals. There were only 30


people in there, political prisoners, but each one was in a


room containing normal prisoners. was sleeping on the ground.


three months, I had a bed. haven't got a lot of time, but in


terms of work President Bashar al- Assad to leave, what are your fears


about the future of Syria? When his father came to power, it was to


deal with the religious sectarian and tribal problems that Syria had


at the time. What would you predict for Syria have come before, where


the regime to for? In my opinion, Serie up will be better without the


President's family, not just him. All of them at must go out. His


background is the same background as his father. His father killed


more than 60,000 people in that serial through massacres. In jail,


they killed 15,000 prisoners. Another man killed 900 prisoners


across Europe by shooting. But how chaotic with the transition to any


democratic process be in Syria given its history and all the


problems that Syria has had? opposition collect so themselves


and we will be one side for the future. We have our paper. It is


nearly ready. For the future of Syria, the democracy regime, voting


through boxes and to protect the people from all sides, protect


human rights, this is what we need for the future. It will not happen


until President -- President Bashar al-Assad leaves Syria. Thank you


for speaking to us. Underneath streets of most cities


is a complicated web of tunnels, cables and pipes carrying


everything from water to trains. Under the feet the people in Paris,


exists one of the most complicated system of tunnels. They are still


being checked to make sure that they do not collapse. Our Paris


Correspondent has been investigating.


From an underground car-park down steep hidden steps, we are


descending into the bowels of Paris. This is one of the densest


underground networks in the world, with 180 miles of intricate tunnels.


We are exploring a city beneath a city. You can see some light coming


from here. The tunnels were mined for the limestone from which Paris


is built. But imagine the horrendous


conditions in which those who dark this labyrinth of corridors must


have worked. Operating down here from morning until night in the


thick dust and high humidity. In those days, they could not afford


to retire. They came down here at a young age and they worked until


they dropped. Very often, they worked in the dark.


No one realised how poor the foundations had become. Not until


1774 when suddenly one of these chambers collapsed, swallowing and


entail a neighbour heard above it. In response, King Louie the 16th


commissioned an architect to reinforce the tunnels. Every


chamber was mapped and a name given to the Correspondent st above it.


Down here, you have a mayor energy of a renaissance Paris. -- a mirror


image. This street is a bollard. -- Bull of art. You can see there is a


crack here. Each part is checked. If they saw a beginning of a


falling roof, they do something. Since 1955, the quarries have been


closed to the public, but there is one section that remains open: The


Catacombs. At the time the architect was strengthening the


tunnels, Lily was closing the overcrowded cemeteries. All of the


bodies were reinterred in the empire of the dead. It is a very


different end of term excursion. What do you think of this? It is


scary. Victor Hugo once described the tunnels as the city's luxury


and magnificence. The imminence -- the millions who visit the city


every year beg to differ, but they know little of her dark,


subterranean secrets. Reminder of the main news:


Thousands of people have rallied across India in support of the


anti-corruption campaign at Anna Hazare. In Delhi, protesters


marched on parliament, others maintained a vigil outside the


prison where he was taken on Tuesday. He will not agree to


conditions set for his release until he is allowed to strike.


A senior barrister has joined expressions of surprise in Britain


and the length of jail sentences and it is some people involved in


last week's writing. Lord Carlile said there was an issue of


proportionality. Campaigners say many people have been jailed for


offences which normally they would only be cautioned for.


That is all from us for now. The weather is coming up now. From us


Most areas ending the day on a final note, but tomorrow, there is


a spell of heavier rain to come, particularly across parts of


central and southern England. It is courtesy of a weather front that


has been there today in the south. This front is with us tomorrow, but


around it there will be heavier rain, particularly affecting parts


of south-west England, into the Midlands and across do easting


layer. -- East Anglia. The darker blues indicate the intensity of the


rainfall, difficult for drivers in standing water. But the FA


southeast should be warm. The south-west, a bit of rain in places


to begin, improving in the afternoon. For Cornwall and Devon,


which saw rain today, it will be brightening up throughout the


afternoon. In Wales, we will avoid the most of this. For Northern


Ireland, a scattering of showers, some on the heavy side, light winds


and 17 degrees. More showers in Scotland compared with today's


heavier ones. Into the evening, some of them will be heavier. The


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