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Mass protests hit the streets on two continents. Scuffles, tear gas

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and arrests, as thousands frustrated over the global economy

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voice their anger in America and Europe.

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Right move or wrong step: Burma gets the green light to chair the

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ASEAN summit in 2014. A special report from the West Bank

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is critical of increasing violence between Jewish settlers and

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Palestinians. Also coming up in the programme:

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The stage play that's meant to shock - a Spanish play about

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religion sparks controversy. Are there some topics which are too

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It's been called the age of protest - in New York's Wall Street,

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protesters are calling it their "Day of Action". Hundreds of people

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are demonstrating in Manhattan and across other major US cities to

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mark two months since the Occupy Wall Street movement began a

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campaign against economic inequality. In New York, riot

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police arrested people outside the New York Stock Exchange who were

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protesting about their eviction two days ago from a central city park.

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And the protests are being echoed across the Atlantic in Greece and

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Italy. Thousands of students have been protesting in Athens and Rome

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against austerity plans and rising unemployment.

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Well, in a moment, we'll be speaking to the BBC's

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correspondents in Athens and Rome, Mark Lowen and Alan Johnston. First,

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let's go to New York and Caroline Hepker. In Manhattan, about 60

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people have been arrested so far, where we saw hundreds of people

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gathering to protest about economic insecurity and the greed of Wall

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Street. There were small skirmishes. In the park, the protesters have

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talked about rallying on to Brooklyn Bridge. They have also

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talked about taking over the subways. New York's transport

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authority will say they will do their utmost to protect the subway.

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There has been sympathy for the protesters as well. Give us an idea

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of the profile of these Occupy Wall Street protesters. They are a very

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varied range of people. They are led by a small group of leaders,

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and they are being backed by a significant donations, but they are

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angry that the Mayor has managed to get rid of their tents and other

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things they have been using to stage this two months old protest.

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The protesters have also tried to prevent people from getting to the

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New York Stock Exchange. I spoke to a trader who works on the floor of

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that stock exchange. He said he had no trouble getting into work this

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morning. He even said he had empathy for the anger at the

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protesters have shown. He said they were simply directing their anger

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at the wrong people. He said the traders on the floor of the New

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York Stock Exchange, they are not the elite that the protesters angry

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at. Let us cross to Athens now. This is an annual parade to mark a

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student uprising in 1973. The protest began today in Athens

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Polytechnic. It snaked its way through the square, and up to their

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embassy. It ends there. As well as the commemoration aspect of the

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march, it is a huge demonstration against anti austerity measures.

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Fast crowds came out onto the streets today. -- fast. That said,

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it was fairly peaceful. We were looking at pictures of those riot

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police who were out in force clearly. Now to Rome. There is no

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more marching here in Rome. These were young people who are

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suspicious of Mario Monti's new administration. They are suspicious,

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as well, of the austerity programme to come. The young people are

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saying, why didn't you go after the people who caused the crisis in

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Italy? I think are, generally, you get the feeling that it Italy is

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ready to give Mario Monti a chance. Polls are suggesting that most

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people have faith in him. William has written about this and joins us

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from Durham, North Carolina. Is this anger going anywhere? You have

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to take it country-by-country. If you look at Italy and Greece, they

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are very specific demands there. In the United States, protesters are

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being somewhat more generic. They are protesting against social

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conditions. That is one of the inadequacies of the American people.

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They have focused attention on the growing inequality of income of

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wealth, which has become a problem that our economy, society and

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politics. Do you think these protests will have a lasting impact

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on the way that politicians do their business, or will it just be

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situation as normal? In Italy and Greece, and other European

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countries as well, as the crisis spreads, you will have an extended

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process of trying to come to grips with the imperatives of austerity

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verses genuine show socked -- genuine social hardships people are

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experiencing. In the United States, even if the movement fades, it will

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leave a residue. America it did have the effect of crystallising

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sentiments that were shared about the growth of inequality of wealth

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bus stop Americans can stand for much greater inequality than would

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be acceptable in most European countries, but even here, enough is

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enough. We let lead to new political methods? -- will it.

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sceptical. There is a danger in the United States that protesters's

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tactics will get in the way of their message, and politicians who

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might be inclined to react to the message may be forced to distance

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themselves from the tactics of the movement, if the movement starts to

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shut down transit systems and bridges and things like that.

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Now a look at some of the day's other news: Fears continue to grow

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over Iran's nuclear programme. Six leading world powers have agreed a

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draft resolution on Iran at a meeting of the United Nations

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nuclear agency, the IAEA. The resolution expresses "deep and

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increasing concern" about Iran's nuclear programme.

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The emir of Kuwait has ordered the security forces to take all

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necessary measures to maintain order. Several thousand protesters

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briefly occupied Parliament on Wednesday. Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad

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Al-Sabah said no violation of state institutions would be tolerated.

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Japan has banned shipments of rice from an area near the crippled

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Fukushima nuclear plant, after it was found to have radiation levels

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above safety limits. The sample came from a farm in Fukushima City,

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around sixty kilometres from the nuclear plant. The Japanese

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government says none of the rice had yet been sold.

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Scientists may have established how a mountain range came to exist

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under the Antarctic. The mountain's are thought to be 1 billion years

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old. There have been further signs that

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Burnett is gradually being welcomed back into the international fault.

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Leaders gathered for the summit on the Indonesian island of Bali. They

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have agreed that Burma cannot chair the group in 2014. Meanwhile, one

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year Ron from third release of the pro-democracy leader, our

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international development correspondent has been to Burma to

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meet her. Burmese people support this man

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with something close to reverence - - this woman. Conditions that

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prevented her party from a standing in elections were lifted. It is

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expected that people will decide to register again as a party. There is

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no doubt which way the leader will vote. I am not entirely sure of the

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reasons why people think it is not the right time to register. On the

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whole, I think the majority of allow people going for re

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registration is fine. What reforms are we going -- what reforms are

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going on here? How do you see Burma changing? There you while! -- duo

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are! -- you are. This is the first of Burmese generation that may not

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have to grow up under a dictatorship. There is no doubt in

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deep affection and that she is held here. She is on the eve of making

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the most important political decision of her life. The issue is

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the speed of which these reforms are being implemented, and it is

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part of that that she will stand in these by-elections and wins. Issue

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goes to parliament with the strength of that mandate, that will

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help to transform politics and Burma. -- if she goes. It is not

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about the past. It is about the future. What the leaders are doing

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now, by confirming the resignation, we are trying to ensure that the

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process of change continues. The momentum is maintained. The leader

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they call here the lady looks like she is running for office already.

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The cost has been great. The young -- the long years of seclusion has

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been great, but she has not suffered. I have never seen it as

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suffering. I find it embarrassing when people talk about my suffering.

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People have died, and it seems to be that no one still alive has a

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lot to complain. She told me the new President is a good listener.

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What do you think of this move to let Burma chaired the 2014 summit?

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You can't be stuck in the past, can you? It is important to look into

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the future. But you also need to live with the past. This is an

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important message. There is a necessity to see consistent human

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rights. This is very important. They need to remember what happened

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in the past. But surely you also have to look at progress, and not

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just what has happened in the past? There have been a recent overtures

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by the government in Burma to try and reach out to their former

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Yes, I witnessed a lot of progress in Myanmar. This is important. We

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need to encourage the current President. I think the President

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has been consistent in the resurrection. Progress has to be

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welcomed, recognised, but also continue reminding... Can you state

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quite clearly, do you think the fact that Burma has been invited to

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chair ASEAN 2014, is it the right step or the wrong move?

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understand but let the not respond to that question because it is a

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political question. I think that the new authorities are in the

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right direction. But more time is needed. There is still a lot of

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political prisoners in Myanmar prisons. I visited myself.

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Prisoners who have suffered torture and mistreatment. There are many

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human rights situations that you cannot at this moment forget. I

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think that the government is going in the right direction, I recognise

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that. This is my message to the United Nations, a report to the new

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United Nations on that. But also to remind of the importance that a

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transition to democracy, to have success they need to sort out human

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There's been a big rise in Jewish settler violence against

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Palestinians living in the West Bank. The United Nations says the

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number of attacks by settlers against Palestinians resulting in

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injury or property damage has gone up roughly threefold in the last

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These are olive farmers from the Palestinian village, clashing with

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Jewish settlers last month. The Israeli army intervened. The

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Palestinians say they were forced to leave their trees. They say

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settlors then set their fields on A few days later, Nidam Qaraweq

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shows me the damage. He tells me these settlers attacked him with

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sticks. As to his trees, he says they are wholly to him, sold you

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can't put a value on them. The situation around the villages

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especially tense, after two Palestinians there were convicted

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of murdering a family of five settlers, including three children,

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in March. But settler related violence is on the increase across

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the West Bank. The UN that says the number of Palestinians being

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injured in settler attacks has roughly tripled since 2009. Some

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settlers have guns, which the Israeli government allows them to

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legally own. But it is the Israeli army that often has to intervene.

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We go to the Palestinian village which sits right next to a Jewish

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settlement. It is a regular point of friction. These clashes between

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Palestinians and Jewish settlers are happening on a weekly, if not

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daily basis at the moment. The Israeli army had intervened,

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they've been firing tear gas towards the Palestinians. They are

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on the side of the Jewish settlement. But the officer in

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charge here has tow the boat sides are as stupid as the other. And

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Nitzan Alon, a man who has just left his post as Israeli army

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commander in the West Bank, says he's worried about a rise in Jewish

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extremism, even calling it terrorism. But settler leaders say

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he's wrong. I think that Commander Alon is exaggerating and making

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mistake, not being careful with his words. Or Palestinians, continued

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settlement expansion, illegal under international law, is an obstacle

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to peace. Is a viable Palestinian state requires tens of thousands of

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settlers to leave. That would not happen easily. A spokesman for the

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Israeli government joins us now from Jerusalem. Does the Israeli

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government categorically condemn any kind of violence by Jewish

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settlers against innocent and unarmed Palestinians? Most

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definitely yes. We've been doing so for quite some time. President

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Perez, Prime Minister Netanyahu, the Speaker of our Parliament - all

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across the board the police leaders and military leaders, this

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vigilante violence is unacceptable and we condemn it and act against

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it. The United Nations says the level of inaction by the Israeli

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police is shameful for a country that says it uphold the rule of law.

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It says 90 % of complaints by Palestinians result in nothing

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being done, nobody is indicted. shared that report with the Israeli

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police a short time ago. They said it's not true, that every complaint

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made his thoroughly investigated, but that a tactical and

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intelligence level. I would remind you that some two months ago we

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established a special police task force of some 60 officers who are

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permanently bared, designed to stamp out this sort of vigilante

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violence. It is unacceptable. We as a society and country do not want

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to see this vigilante violence. Anything done outside the rule of

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law will not be tolerated. You said you talked to the Israeli police,

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then give us the correct figure because the UN says 90 % of

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complaints result in nobody being indicted. What is the number of

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people being indicted? I don't have that figure. I can tell you that

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every complaint made his thoroughly investigated. But nobody is ever

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indicted, that's the point. That is not correct. People have been

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arrested, put in jail, people have been put in front of legal

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proceedings. We have no tolerance policy. My Prime Minister, there

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was a terrible incident in northern Israel where a mosque was attacked.

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My Prime Minister stood up and said it was unacceptable. This is not

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Jewish, this is not Israeli, we A satirical play about the life of

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Jesus Christ is causing controversy following its premiere in France.

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The play, called Golgota Picnic, has been denounced by Catholic

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groups who staged street protests, while others have demonstrated in

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favour of freedom of speech. The play's director welcomes the debate

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between culture and blasphemy. We will be discussing this. This play

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intends to shock. A modern depiction of Jesus Christ - the

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stage littered with Big Macs and a very present day falling angel. The

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French opening follows a run for six months in Madrid with no

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trouble. But now Catholic groups in Toulouse petitioned to censor the

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play but were denied. Shock tactics didn't always have a place on the

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stage. The UK passed the Theatres Act in 1968 abolishing censorship.

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A change brought on by the prominence of the Angry Young Men

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playwrights. John Osborne was one of the early writers who fought for

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a theatre that reflects society. But with the freedom have come the

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protests. In 2006 Jerry Spinger: The Opera could hide behind the law,

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in the face of protests who called the play blasphemous. The career of

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director Peter Brook has spanned the changes and for him freedom on

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stage is necessary. Look at every television programme, look at every

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newspaper and you can't get away from the themes of clashing

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interests, clash of civilizations, With religion at centre stage,

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Golgota Picnic will continue to gain supporters and protesters,

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waiting for its next resurrection I have been joined in the studio by

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the playwright and former theatre critic. It is very difficult to

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strike a balance between freedom of speech but also blasphemy. I don't

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think it is. Isn't it? It's the age-old battle of fundamentalists

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who feel that religion, or religious belief and doctrine, is

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this very fragile thing which is subject to terrible, inexplicable

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ABTA. And that it must be stopped, that religion must be revealed.

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Christianity is a very strong plant. If there are some people who for

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whatever reason want to smear or mark it, religion will survive.

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Surely you shouldn't mock people's beliefs, you should respect them.

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Not necessarily. I do think from what I've read of the play that it

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sounds very infantile, silly. set out to shock. Exactly. It seems

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to set out to shock in the crudest, most juvenile fashion. I haven't

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seen it so I don't know. Nor have I, I may be quite wrong. But I think

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the freedom to criticise religion and perhaps from the viewpoint of

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fundamentalists, that is to market in an unacceptable way. I think

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that is quite wrong. How typical of the general public do you think

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theatregoers are and playwrights such as yourself are? I don't think

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there is such a thing as a typical theatre-goer or a typical play

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right. I completely understand the attitude of the fundamentalist.

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Jerry Springer rehearsed the same arguments. They've been going on

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for many years here and I'm sure abroad. I think probably they are a

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little more fragile in their attitudes in Paris and France.

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few seconds things have become more relaxed for your protests over the

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years? A little. Which pleases you, no doubt. I'm so glad to hear that.

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Thank you very much indeed. That is all from the programme. Next is the

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weather. From the team here on It's been a mild day today,

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especially if you had some sunshine. But rain returns to Northern

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Ireland and western Scotland and other parts of the West overnight,

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with still some outbreaks of rain tomorrow and still a brisk wind.

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Low pressure from the Atlantic reading the weather fronts in our

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direction, high to the east has now pulled away somewhat. It is

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allowing the wetter weather to come in. There will be heavier bursts in

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the rain to western Scotland during Friday, but central and eastern

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areas are looking dry with further sunny spells. A fine afternoon

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across much of northern England. It is mild again, 13 or 14 degrees.

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Sunny spells across East Anglia and the south-east, the temperature a

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degree or two higher than we've had today, but it will be on the breezy

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side. We look to the south-west, and yet there is a chance,

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especially during the first part of the day, for a bit of patchy, light

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rain or drizzle. There is a brisk towards the south and west of Wales

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as well. North-west England brightening up, Northern Ireland

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blustery again but not quite as windy as today. The rain tomorrow

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isn't going to be as heavy as it was today, just like and patchy.

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Outbreaks of rain for Western and Central Scotland. Across the North-

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