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This is BBC World News Today with me Philippa Thomas.


Pro-democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong ignore pleas


Hong Kong's chief executive says China won't accept their demands


for electoral reform, but, as these pictures clearly show,


tens of thousands of people are still on the streets.


British jets hit Islamic State targets in Iraq


for the first time helping Kurdish troops who'd come under attack.


Also coming up, Bill Gates tells the BBC how he


And ensuring the legends live on, the street artist giving dead


We start in Hong Kong where thousands more people have joined


We can't tell you exactly how many but you can see masses


This is the scene in the central district of Hong Kong in the early


The protesters are calling on Beijing to give them


a free vote on the next Chief Executive of Hong Kong in 2017.


Under China's "one country, two systems" approach to


administering the territory, Beijing can decide which candidates are


On Monday, Britain and the United States


weighed into the debate, supporting full democracy for the territory.


A move which didn't go down well with the Chinese authorities.


But that stern warning hasn't dented the protesters' fervour


We want to stress Hong Kong is one of China's special administrative


regions. Hong Kong affairs are purely china's internal affairs so


we demand that countries are cautious with their words and


actions and not get involved or interfere with China's internal


affairs in any way, we will not support them anyway illegal


activities. But that stern warning hasn't dented


the protesters' fervour as they continue to occupy large


parts of the city, including Mongkok on the Kowloon


peninsula to the north, and in the central district from Connaught


Place across to Causeway Bay. These drone pictures show us


the sheer numbers of people who've And,


although it may be quiet overnight, huge crowds are expected to pack the


city centre on this public holiday. The BBC's China Editor Carrie Gracie


has been out in the crowds No wonder it's called


the polite protest. But China called them extremists,


who show contempt for the law. And Hong Kong's Chief


Executive said he had enough. The organisers of Occupy Central


have said many times that if the movement goes out of control,


it will be halted. So now I call upon them to fulfil


their promise The protest has spread to another


front, blocking roads in one of Hong Many here say they support


the fight for democracy. TRANSLATION:


Business is down at least 50%. So far, the protests are peaceful,


but if they disrupt things for too long,


the impact will be hard to predict. The only police to be seen


today were behind railings. And even those who once called


themselves protest organisers say things have moved but


beyond their control. It is movement of the people,


initiated by Hong Kong people. Since riot police withdrew in


the early hours of Monday morning, these people have taken ownership


of the heart of Hong Kong. They have even renamed this


placed Democracy Square. And instead of getting tired, bored,


or scared, as the government hoped, they are actually growing


in confidence and conviction. First used as shields


against police pepper spray. And now it is known as the


Umbrella Revolution. It's going to take more than


a rainstorm to quench their spirit. For all their good manners,


this is a devastating challenge to British Tornado jets have launched


attacks against Islamic State positions in Iraq


for the first time since members of Parliament here voted to approve


direct military action last Friday. The RAF says they successfully hit


a heavy weapons position and an armed pick-up truck around Rabia


near Iraq's border with Syria. This is one of the jets involved


in the mission returning to And we have more reports


of heavy fighting in both Iraq and Syria, with fierce clashes


reported at the border town of Rabia, between Iraqi Kurdish


forces and Islamic State militants. Fighting has been reported


on both sides of the frontier, Iraqi Kurdish troops are said to have


recaptured the town, but suffered In a separate development,


Turkish tanks have taken up positions on a hill along the border


near the Syrian town of Kobane Meanwhile, as part of the attempt to


curb the flow of foreign fighters to the Middle East, the UK's Home


Secretary Theresa May has told her party's annual conference that if


the Conservatives win power in next May's British election, they will


impose tighter restrictions She said new


"banning orders" would allow the authorities to outlaw extremist


groups if they incite religious or racial hatred or threaten democracy,


without having to prove that they Those same groups could also be


subject to Extremism Disruption Orders which would restrict


their movements and prevent them As our home affairs correspondent


Daniel Sandford reports, the proposed crackdown has already


provoked some sharp criticism. It was the brutal killing of


Drummer Lee Rigby last year by two British men that reopened


the debate about extremism. Since then, hundreds


of Britons have gone to Syria to So, today, at the Conservative Party


Conference, the Home Secretary It will aim to undermine


and eliminate extremism Neo-Nazism and other forms


of extremism, And it will aim to build up society


to identify extremism, confront it, Muslims are over 2 billion,


around the world! The plan is to ban extremist groups,


even if they are not directly And prevent leaders addressing


public meetings or even giving Men like Anjem Choudary, who has


been linked to several Islamists who You know,


I think I am extreme from some views Yes, I am extreme


because I believe in submission. I am extreme from democracy


because I believe we belong to God. I'm extreme from man-made law


because I believe in divine law. Theresa May's speech has reopened


one of the most difficult debates How to keep the people of Britain


safe, and, at the same time, Things like freedom of expression,


which have been part of Daniel Sandford reporting,


and to give you just one example of radicalisation,


today a 15-year-old girl from Bristol has been reported missing,


and police believe she's trying to Let's talk about these issues now


with Erin Marie Saltman, a senior researcher with Quilliam,


the counter-extremism think tank. That is just one example but you


have been looking at the fact that there are at least several more


girls trying to get to join Islamic state. Yes, we have seen quite a few


case studies in the UK and across Europe. It is thought up to 200


European females of actual journey to Syria and Iraq to join forces,


sometimes it is unclear whether that is to be with jihadists and become


wives of them, because some individuals have gone specifically


for that purpose. What is the appeal? We shouldn't assume the same


mechanisms that would be lowering a male wouldn't be alluring to female.


For a female, it is very empowering to think that not only is it a sense


of adventure that you are going abroad, but you are taking part in a


humanitarian cause, that is ordained by Lord, because that is what the


extremist rhetoric says. And you have a real man to support in his


effort to fight for this Moslem state. So, even though we might see


these young women go into a position where they have to know their place,


dress conservatively, they might see at liberating? They might see it as


liberating. And there is a network online, it is where women are


tweeting in using social media, just like the foreign fighter men, to


encourage women to come to join them, discussing what daily life is


like, encouraging them how to get across the border. You look


carefully about how people are being radicalised, encouraged to go out


there, so what do you make of Theresa May's measures, saying that


if the Conservatives win the general election they will clamp down in


these different ways? The rhetoric was interesting. This idea of


extremist disruption orders, because extremist disruption is welcome and


we should not be given undue platforms to hate preachers, but


this doesn't necessarily go against pre-existing laws. It is already


illegal to have hate speech, to incite violence in others. Perhaps


this is a case of just being better about putting into practice the laws


we have. We will see. There is the danger of creating an object to


resist against, if the clamp down goes too far. Censorship is not the


key, on or off-line. It will always come back. We don't want to give


credence by giving special treatment to certain individuals by censoring


them. Thank you for coming in. Rescue teams in Japan have had to


abandon attempts to recover the bodies of hikers who died


on Mount Ontake for a second time. The volcano erupted on Saturday,


and there are now fears Rupert Wingfield-Hayes has been


speaking to someone who survived the wall of ash that killed dozens


of people. On Saturday, she was climbing alone,


scouting a new route up Japan's She shows me the point where she was


standing, right near the summit when Mount Ontake suddenly exploded


without warning. TRANSLATION:


It was a beautiful autumn day. I looked back and saw tonnes


of ash and rock in the air. The smell


of sulphur was really strong. I really thought I was going to die.


I thought I was going to be trapped in the gas and die right there


on the spot. I thought to myself,


"Why did I come here today?" Completely exposed, Sayuri jammed


herself into a hole in the rocks. She hid there for an hour as the


mountain exploded just metres away. TRANSLATION:


I hid beneath the rock. Then, suddenly,


it would go completely black. That was when I saw a rock the size


of a small car, or others the size I could hear the noise, swish-swish,


of the rocks flying by. Sayuri took her chance and ran


for it, climbing down as fast She knew there were many others


still back up there I wonder


about those people I saw out on the peak, people who were taking


pictures and enjoying the view. I ask her


if the experience would stop her The mountains, she says,


are her life. Bill Gates has been speaking to the


BBC about his foundation's decision to pledge $50 million to fight


the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. We'll take you live in a moment to


Liberia to hear about events on the ground, first let's hear


a little of what he had to say. It's hard to predict how quickly


we can bring the case counts down. We have to build these Ebola


treatment units, we've got to get medical personnel in there,


and have a capacity so that anyone And also by being in there,


they are not infecting more people And that capacity simply


hasn't been there. The US, the UK and others are now


pledging very substantial resources. The US, the UK and others are now


pledging very substantial resources. Despite that donation,


for some families it is too late. The charity Unicef says that 3,700


children in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone have lost one,


or both, of their parents to Ebola. Let's go live to Sarah Crowe who is


working for Unicef I suppose you are seeing these


children who are losing their parents. Absolutely. The sheer scale


and nature of this crisis requires us to do things we have never done


before. We think there are about a couple of thousand orphans in


Liberia. There is no real documentation, no real process at


the moment, so it requires or calls on us to be extremely creative and


to be courageous, and try new and inventive solutions to take care of


these children records of both terrible stigma and fear that so


many have when children come out of an Ebola treatment unit. It requires


no protocols and for us to find new ways of doing something we have


never done before. People are afraid to take them on? Yes. It is children


who are in contact with a relative who has died as a result of Ebola


and are potentially infectious themselves. In all of these


countries and in Liberia as well we are trying to work with a network of


survivors who themselves are immune. You can imagine taking care


of a small baby and protective personal equipment is an anathema to


nurturing a small child. Using this network of survivors, and it will


require an army of them effectively, and others brave enough


to join us, this is one way in which we are starting to open these


centres, interim care centres, in the coming weeks, where we will be


able to provide children who have been in contact with better care and


support. It sounds as if you are working against the odds to put


systems in place to contain Ebola. Do you share any of the optimism


that this will be defeated? We have seen glimmers of hope. This is what


we have to hang onto. In the past couple of days there was one little


boy who was put into emergency foster care. His father died at the


Ebola treatment unit and through a process of tracing we found,


together with the ministry and other partners, we found an emergency


foster care for him. In an extended family. He was sorted out. We have a


number of cases where my children think there might have lost their


parents and are reunited. You can imagine the rate at which families


or the sick are processed through an Ebola treatment centre is such that


documentation is often not accurate, so children fall through the cracks,


and it is about improving the system. We are seeing glimmers of


hope like that. That is what we have to hang onto. We have to be able to


focus on what is possible. Thank you.


By which I mean, do you understand the language of economics or do you


think that the world of banks and investments and balance sheets is


Even though the credit crunch of 2008 and


the global recession that followed definitely did affect all of us?


One man who's here to help is author John Lanchester, whose


I have been learning things from your lexicon of money. Why did you


think it was important to write this book? I wrote a book about London


and got interested in how finance works. As I educated myself I


realised that there was an awful lot I did not know, at the most is the


level of not understanding words. -- Basic. A lot of it is not knowing


what words mean. I found that there were a lot of words I might use that


I did not really grasp. It can balance being one of them. That is


when something falls so far and it looks as if it is going to have a


great recovery and then it falls down again. -- dead cat balance. It


was a phrase in circulation. Purchasing power parity, it is used


as an index to see how expensive it is to live somewhere. Two most


expensive countries in the world according to the Big Mac index are


Norway and Venezuela which have nothing in common apart from


enormous amounts of oil. Failing up words. That is when someone is so


embarrassingly rubbish at a job, this never happens at the BBC, so


amazingly rubbish there is nothing to do apart from promote them, and


it is a well-known feature in corporate life that people are so


rubbish they keep being promoted. One other thing that might matter in


the future, what is shadow banking? Stuff like credit cards, insurance,


finance spread globally through the system which is not regulated. One


of the things that is weird about it, and civilians are alarmed by


this, nobody knows how big it is. It is this gigantic sector and you


cannot put hard numbers on the scale of it. When we talk about the


financial sector we often talk about markets, looking at Hong Kong, and I


wanted to ask you about that, you grew up there and wrote a novel


about it. What strikes you when you see these protests? It is an amazing


thing and optimistic thing and I think people may have seen protests


before but what is different is these are not with the consent of


the police. This is not a managed demonstration. A lot of it is to do


with Hong Kong identity, younger people in Hong Kong very strongly


feel that as well as being Chinese and Cantonese they are also Hong


Kong-ese. People thought in 20 years time that the mainland would be


converging and the systems would be growing together and what this shows


is that young people from Hong Kong do not think that. They are feeling


more strongly about their sense of their own identity as a separate


thing. This is a political expression of that. Thank you.


Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur, Amy Winehouse, all iconic figures from


Their early deaths are now the subject of a pop-up art


Scars and Stripes is the work of D*Face, a British street artist


The murals for me have always been about a big expression,


a big volume of paint on the wall and grabbing people's attention.


I am starting on the eyes because it is more interesting


It is nice to have these eyes which will be almost finished


and everything else filling in around them.


The exhibition is called Scars and Stripes.


It is separated into two bodies of work.


One is a question of celebrity, fame, stardom, and those people


particularly who have died young in their field, and how


How they go on to live past the end of their lives, and how we


put them on a mantle and we let them becoming manipulated into how we


Someone like Sid Vicious, for example, has gone on to represent


Buddy Holly representing the very early days of someone dying


in the pinnacle of their career, to the great shock and surprise


This is a very close crop of James Dean who epitomises that burning


When I was experimenting with these I was looking at how they died,


so I was playing with metal, the idea of him dying


in a car crash, this is scratched out onto a still that is rusted.


These people often go on to live not just in their own songs but in the


way in which there are songs are sampled, and that is an important


element of how those myths carry on living outside of their own world.


Kurt Cobain is a really important figure to me


because I was hugely influenced by Nirvana and the grunge culture.


I remember how shocked and surprised I was when he took his own life,


having what seemed like the world at his feet.


Often these artists that have been thrust into the limelight become


celebrities often overnight and don't know how to handle it.


Struggled long and hard, and suddenly everything is available


to them, and that for me is very interesting.


The message in the work is very much like the work on the street.


It is about giving yourself to question your relationship to it.


That can be your relation to celebrity, what it means to you, and


the artist's drive for celebrity, this appetite we have for more fame.


The volume seems to get turned up more and more.


People are famous for nothing now, as opposed to being famous


That is a very interesting subject matter.


It is about questioning that relationship and what that


You can also talk to me about this or any other


Most of you finish September on a warm and dry not, but there has been


some rain around today and


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