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This is BBC World News Today with me Philippa Thomas.

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Pro-democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong ignore pleas

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Hong Kong's chief executive says China won't accept their demands

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for electoral reform, but, as these pictures clearly show,

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tens of thousands of people are still on the streets.

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British jets hit Islamic State targets in Iraq

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for the first time helping Kurdish troops who'd come under attack.

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Also coming up, Bill Gates tells the BBC how he

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And ensuring the legends live on, the street artist giving dead

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We start in Hong Kong where thousands more people have joined

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We can't tell you exactly how many but you can see masses

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This is the scene in the central district of Hong Kong in the early

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The protesters are calling on Beijing to give them

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a free vote on the next Chief Executive of Hong Kong in 2017.

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Under China's "one country, two systems" approach to

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administering the territory, Beijing can decide which candidates are

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On Monday, Britain and the United States

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weighed into the debate, supporting full democracy for the territory.

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A move which didn't go down well with the Chinese authorities.

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But that stern warning hasn't dented the protesters' fervour

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We want to stress Hong Kong is one of China's special administrative

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regions. Hong Kong affairs are purely china's internal affairs so

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we demand that countries are cautious with their words and

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actions and not get involved or interfere with China's internal

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affairs in any way, we will not support them anyway illegal

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activities. But that stern warning hasn't dented

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the protesters' fervour as they continue to occupy large

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parts of the city, including Mongkok on the Kowloon

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peninsula to the north, and in the central district from Connaught

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Place across to Causeway Bay. These drone pictures show us

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the sheer numbers of people who've And,

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although it may be quiet overnight, huge crowds are expected to pack the

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city centre on this public holiday. The BBC's China Editor Carrie Gracie

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has been out in the crowds No wonder it's called

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the polite protest. But China called them extremists,

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who show contempt for the law. And Hong Kong's Chief

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Executive said he had enough. The organisers of Occupy Central

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have said many times that if the movement goes out of control,

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it will be halted. So now I call upon them to fulfil

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their promise The protest has spread to another

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front, blocking roads in one of Hong Many here say they support

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the fight for democracy. TRANSLATION:

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Business is down at least 50%. So far, the protests are peaceful,

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but if they disrupt things for too long,

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the impact will be hard to predict. The only police to be seen

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today were behind railings. And even those who once called

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themselves protest organisers say things have moved but

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beyond their control. It is movement of the people,

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initiated by Hong Kong people. Since riot police withdrew in

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the early hours of Monday morning, these people have taken ownership

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of the heart of Hong Kong. They have even renamed this

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placed Democracy Square. And instead of getting tired, bored,

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or scared, as the government hoped, they are actually growing

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in confidence and conviction. First used as shields

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against police pepper spray. And now it is known as the

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Umbrella Revolution. It's going to take more than

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a rainstorm to quench their spirit. For all their good manners,

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this is a devastating challenge to British Tornado jets have launched

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attacks against Islamic State positions in Iraq

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for the first time since members of Parliament here voted to approve

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direct military action last Friday. The RAF says they successfully hit

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a heavy weapons position and an armed pick-up truck around Rabia

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near Iraq's border with Syria. This is one of the jets involved

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in the mission returning to And we have more reports

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of heavy fighting in both Iraq and Syria, with fierce clashes

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reported at the border town of Rabia, between Iraqi Kurdish

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forces and Islamic State militants. Fighting has been reported

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on both sides of the frontier, Iraqi Kurdish troops are said to have

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recaptured the town, but suffered In a separate development,

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Turkish tanks have taken up positions on a hill along the border

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near the Syrian town of Kobane Meanwhile, as part of the attempt to

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curb the flow of foreign fighters to the Middle East, the UK's Home

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Secretary Theresa May has told her party's annual conference that if

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the Conservatives win power in next May's British election, they will

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impose tighter restrictions She said new

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"banning orders" would allow the authorities to outlaw extremist

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groups if they incite religious or racial hatred or threaten democracy,

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without having to prove that they Those same groups could also be

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subject to Extremism Disruption Orders which would restrict

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their movements and prevent them As our home affairs correspondent

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Daniel Sandford reports, the proposed crackdown has already

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provoked some sharp criticism. It was the brutal killing of

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Drummer Lee Rigby last year by two British men that reopened

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the debate about extremism. Since then, hundreds

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of Britons have gone to Syria to So, today, at the Conservative Party

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Conference, the Home Secretary It will aim to undermine

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and eliminate extremism Neo-Nazism and other forms

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of extremism, And it will aim to build up society

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to identify extremism, confront it, Muslims are over 2 billion,

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around the world! The plan is to ban extremist groups,

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even if they are not directly And prevent leaders addressing

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public meetings or even giving Men like Anjem Choudary, who has

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been linked to several Islamists who You know,

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I think I am extreme from some views Yes, I am extreme

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because I believe in submission. I am extreme from democracy

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because I believe we belong to God. I'm extreme from man-made law

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because I believe in divine law. Theresa May's speech has reopened

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one of the most difficult debates How to keep the people of Britain

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safe, and, at the same time, Things like freedom of expression,

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which have been part of Daniel Sandford reporting,

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and to give you just one example of radicalisation,

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today a 15-year-old girl from Bristol has been reported missing,

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and police believe she's trying to Let's talk about these issues now

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with Erin Marie Saltman, a senior researcher with Quilliam,

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the counter-extremism think tank. That is just one example but you

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have been looking at the fact that there are at least several more

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girls trying to get to join Islamic state. Yes, we have seen quite a few

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case studies in the UK and across Europe. It is thought up to 200

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European females of actual journey to Syria and Iraq to join forces,

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sometimes it is unclear whether that is to be with jihadists and become

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wives of them, because some individuals have gone specifically

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for that purpose. What is the appeal? We shouldn't assume the same

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mechanisms that would be lowering a male wouldn't be alluring to female.

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For a female, it is very empowering to think that not only is it a sense

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of adventure that you are going abroad, but you are taking part in a

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humanitarian cause, that is ordained by Lord, because that is what the

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extremist rhetoric says. And you have a real man to support in his

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effort to fight for this Moslem state. So, even though we might see

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these young women go into a position where they have to know their place,

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dress conservatively, they might see at liberating? They might see it as

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liberating. And there is a network online, it is where women are

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tweeting in using social media, just like the foreign fighter men, to

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encourage women to come to join them, discussing what daily life is

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like, encouraging them how to get across the border. You look

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carefully about how people are being radicalised, encouraged to go out

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there, so what do you make of Theresa May's measures, saying that

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if the Conservatives win the general election they will clamp down in

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these different ways? The rhetoric was interesting. This idea of

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extremist disruption orders, because extremist disruption is welcome and

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we should not be given undue platforms to hate preachers, but

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this doesn't necessarily go against pre-existing laws. It is already

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illegal to have hate speech, to incite violence in others. Perhaps

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this is a case of just being better about putting into practice the laws

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we have. We will see. There is the danger of creating an object to

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resist against, if the clamp down goes too far. Censorship is not the

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key, on or off-line. It will always come back. We don't want to give

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credence by giving special treatment to certain individuals by censoring

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them. Thank you for coming in. Rescue teams in Japan have had to

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abandon attempts to recover the bodies of hikers who died

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on Mount Ontake for a second time. The volcano erupted on Saturday,

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and there are now fears Rupert Wingfield-Hayes has been

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speaking to someone who survived the wall of ash that killed dozens

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of people. On Saturday, she was climbing alone,

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scouting a new route up Japan's She shows me the point where she was

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standing, right near the summit when Mount Ontake suddenly exploded

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without warning. TRANSLATION:

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It was a beautiful autumn day. I looked back and saw tonnes

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of ash and rock in the air. The smell

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of sulphur was really strong. I really thought I was going to die.

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I thought I was going to be trapped in the gas and die right there

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on the spot. I thought to myself,

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"Why did I come here today?" Completely exposed, Sayuri jammed

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herself into a hole in the rocks. She hid there for an hour as the

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mountain exploded just metres away. TRANSLATION:

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I hid beneath the rock. Then, suddenly,

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it would go completely black. That was when I saw a rock the size

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of a small car, or others the size I could hear the noise, swish-swish,

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of the rocks flying by. Sayuri took her chance and ran

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for it, climbing down as fast She knew there were many others

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still back up there I wonder

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about those people I saw out on the peak, people who were taking

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pictures and enjoying the view. I ask her

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if the experience would stop her The mountains, she says,

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are her life. Bill Gates has been speaking to the

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BBC about his foundation's decision to pledge $50 million to fight

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the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. We'll take you live in a moment to

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Liberia to hear about events on the ground, first let's hear

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a little of what he had to say. It's hard to predict how quickly

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we can bring the case counts down. We have to build these Ebola

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treatment units, we've got to get medical personnel in there,

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and have a capacity so that anyone And also by being in there,

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they are not infecting more people And that capacity simply

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hasn't been there. The US, the UK and others are now

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pledging very substantial resources. The US, the UK and others are now

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pledging very substantial resources. Despite that donation,

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for some families it is too late. The charity Unicef says that 3,700

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children in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone have lost one,

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or both, of their parents to Ebola. Let's go live to Sarah Crowe who is

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working for Unicef I suppose you are seeing these

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children who are losing their parents. Absolutely. The sheer scale

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and nature of this crisis requires us to do things we have never done

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before. We think there are about a couple of thousand orphans in

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Liberia. There is no real documentation, no real process at

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the moment, so it requires or calls on us to be extremely creative and

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to be courageous, and try new and inventive solutions to take care of

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these children records of both terrible stigma and fear that so

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many have when children come out of an Ebola treatment unit. It requires

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no protocols and for us to find new ways of doing something we have

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never done before. People are afraid to take them on? Yes. It is children

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who are in contact with a relative who has died as a result of Ebola

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and are potentially infectious themselves. In all of these

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countries and in Liberia as well we are trying to work with a network of

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survivors who themselves are immune. You can imagine taking care

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of a small baby and protective personal equipment is an anathema to

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nurturing a small child. Using this network of survivors, and it will

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require an army of them effectively, and others brave enough

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to join us, this is one way in which we are starting to open these

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centres, interim care centres, in the coming weeks, where we will be

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able to provide children who have been in contact with better care and

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support. It sounds as if you are working against the odds to put

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systems in place to contain Ebola. Do you share any of the optimism

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that this will be defeated? We have seen glimmers of hope. This is what

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we have to hang onto. In the past couple of days there was one little

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boy who was put into emergency foster care. His father died at the

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Ebola treatment unit and through a process of tracing we found,

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together with the ministry and other partners, we found an emergency

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foster care for him. In an extended family. He was sorted out. We have a

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number of cases where my children think there might have lost their

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parents and are reunited. You can imagine the rate at which families

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or the sick are processed through an Ebola treatment centre is such that

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documentation is often not accurate, so children fall through the cracks,

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and it is about improving the system. We are seeing glimmers of

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hope like that. That is what we have to hang onto. We have to be able to

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focus on what is possible. Thank you.

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By which I mean, do you understand the language of economics or do you

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think that the world of banks and investments and balance sheets is

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Even though the credit crunch of 2008 and

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the global recession that followed definitely did affect all of us?

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One man who's here to help is author John Lanchester, whose

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I have been learning things from your lexicon of money. Why did you

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think it was important to write this book? I wrote a book about London

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and got interested in how finance works. As I educated myself I

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realised that there was an awful lot I did not know, at the most is the

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level of not understanding words. -- Basic. A lot of it is not knowing

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what words mean. I found that there were a lot of words I might use that

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I did not really grasp. It can balance being one of them. That is

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when something falls so far and it looks as if it is going to have a

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great recovery and then it falls down again. -- dead cat balance. It

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was a phrase in circulation. Purchasing power parity, it is used

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as an index to see how expensive it is to live somewhere. Two most

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expensive countries in the world according to the Big Mac index are

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Norway and Venezuela which have nothing in common apart from

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enormous amounts of oil. Failing up words. That is when someone is so

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embarrassingly rubbish at a job, this never happens at the BBC, so

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amazingly rubbish there is nothing to do apart from promote them, and

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it is a well-known feature in corporate life that people are so

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rubbish they keep being promoted. One other thing that might matter in

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the future, what is shadow banking? Stuff like credit cards, insurance,

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finance spread globally through the system which is not regulated. One

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of the things that is weird about it, and civilians are alarmed by

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this, nobody knows how big it is. It is this gigantic sector and you

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cannot put hard numbers on the scale of it. When we talk about the

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financial sector we often talk about markets, looking at Hong Kong, and I

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wanted to ask you about that, you grew up there and wrote a novel

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about it. What strikes you when you see these protests? It is an amazing

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thing and optimistic thing and I think people may have seen protests

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before but what is different is these are not with the consent of

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the police. This is not a managed demonstration. A lot of it is to do

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with Hong Kong identity, younger people in Hong Kong very strongly

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feel that as well as being Chinese and Cantonese they are also Hong

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Kong-ese. People thought in 20 years time that the mainland would be

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converging and the systems would be growing together and what this shows

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is that young people from Hong Kong do not think that. They are feeling

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more strongly about their sense of their own identity as a separate

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thing. This is a political expression of that. Thank you.

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Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur, Amy Winehouse, all iconic figures from

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Their early deaths are now the subject of a pop-up art

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Scars and Stripes is the work of D*Face, a British street artist

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The murals for me have always been about a big expression,

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a big volume of paint on the wall and grabbing people's attention.

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I am starting on the eyes because it is more interesting

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It is nice to have these eyes which will be almost finished

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and everything else filling in around them.

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The exhibition is called Scars and Stripes.

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It is separated into two bodies of work.

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One is a question of celebrity, fame, stardom, and those people

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particularly who have died young in their field, and how

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How they go on to live past the end of their lives, and how we

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put them on a mantle and we let them becoming manipulated into how we

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Someone like Sid Vicious, for example, has gone on to represent

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Buddy Holly representing the very early days of someone dying

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in the pinnacle of their career, to the great shock and surprise

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This is a very close crop of James Dean who epitomises that burning

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When I was experimenting with these I was looking at how they died,

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so I was playing with metal, the idea of him dying

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in a car crash, this is scratched out onto a still that is rusted.

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These people often go on to live not just in their own songs but in the

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way in which there are songs are sampled, and that is an important

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element of how those myths carry on living outside of their own world.

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Kurt Cobain is a really important figure to me

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because I was hugely influenced by Nirvana and the grunge culture.

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I remember how shocked and surprised I was when he took his own life,

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having what seemed like the world at his feet.

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Often these artists that have been thrust into the limelight become

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celebrities often overnight and don't know how to handle it.

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Struggled long and hard, and suddenly everything is available

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to them, and that for me is very interesting.

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The message in the work is very much like the work on the street.

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It is about giving yourself to question your relationship to it.

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That can be your relation to celebrity, what it means to you, and

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the artist's drive for celebrity, this appetite we have for more fame.

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The volume seems to get turned up more and more.

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People are famous for nothing now, as opposed to being famous

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That is a very interesting subject matter.

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It is about questioning that relationship and what that

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You can also talk to me about this or any other

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Most of you finish September on a warm and dry not, but there has been

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some rain around today and

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