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June 2016. A little after one o'clock in the morning. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
An expectant audience board buses which will take them | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
into the Perthshire countryside to watch a play, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
The 306: Dawn. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
The location is not your usual theatrical establishment, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
this will be no ordinary piece of theatre. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
This is theatre without walls. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
This is the National Theatre of Scotland. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
The history of theatre in Scotland is long and rich. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Its legacy is apparent in the strength of Scotland's language, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
poetry and humour. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
Already it's obvious that you're pleased to see me. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
For centuries, Scottish audiences have come together to laugh, sing, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
and share their stories. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
As a country, I think at our core we've got a really great, sort of, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
ability to just engage. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
We all tell a story. We all do a turn. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
These stories speak in the voice of a nation. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
A people with their own diverse, complicated, ever-changing culture. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Theatre in Scotland is like no other theatre in the world. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
They were standing, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and their Queen was beautiful and tall and fair. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
And yet, until this century, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Scotland had never had a national theatre company. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
I know that the debate had been going on for a long time | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
about what a national theatre would look like, what shape it would take. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
Will it be in Edinburgh or will it be in Glasgow? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Maybe we should have it in Stirling? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Is it going to be a big old building with pillars out the front, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
or will it be a new, neoclassical building | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
with big pillars out the front? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Scotland's got a very, very particular identity, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
which is music, it's politics, it's direct address. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Feasgar math. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
There's no fourth wall in great, Scottish theatre. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Scots kind of like getting right down to brass tacks. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
We're not afraid of singing. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
We're not afraid of standing up in the middle of the bar and, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
you know, singing your heart out. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
It's the immediacy of it, I think. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
When devolution emerged, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
then it became a much more serious notion. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
We did need to both capture and nourish and preserve, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
and promote a common kind of uniquely Scottish perspective. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Then in 2004, after years of debate, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
the National Theatre of Scotland was established. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
I turned up in Glasgow and it was a rainy day. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
And genuinely walked into a completely empty office, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
no furniture at all. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I remember going to the NTS on the very first day, I think, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
and Vicky was there. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
And she had literally Blu-Tacked to the door, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
you know, a white piece of paper that said, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
National Theatre of Scotland. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
That was my first day, while the rain hit the window outside. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
And it wasn't scary, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
but it was just a great realisation | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
that there really was nothing at all. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
This was a moment to create a national theatre | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
that had never really existed in that format before, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
and to create a theatre | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
that was something about the people in Scotland, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
and the geography of Scotland, and the stories of Scotland | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
at this moment in time. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
In a way, it's everything that I believed theatre to be, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
and should be. So it was thrilling. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
But how could a theatre company aspire | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
to represent all Scottish theatre? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
All Scots? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
All of Scotland? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
When Vicky came up with the idea of Home, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
we all went, oh, wow. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
This is exactly right, as a calling card. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
This is the way to say hello to the world. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
To Scotland mainly, and then to the rest of the world. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Could you believe you long for an island? | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
And you miss your home? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I'd read somewhere that home | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
was one of the most evocative words in the English language. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
And I just felt that it was a really interesting word in terms of | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Scotland, having a National Theatre of Scotland itself, what home meant. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
Yes. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
Come through, here, son. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
So we got ten directors, all from Scotland, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
we'd place them in ten different locations | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
from Shetland to the Borders, Glasgow, Edinburgh, all over. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
And then they worked with the community | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
to come up with a piece of theatre which was inspired by the word home. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
So the idea was that the National Theatre of Scotland | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
would start on one particular night in February 2006. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
A Saturday night. When all of these ten pieces would be on at once. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
And this is where the Theatre Without Walls came in, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
which is that we could create work anywhere, for anyone, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
as long as it was artist-led | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and about the stories the artists needed to tell. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It was... As an idea, it was simple. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
And then I found myself... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
In Easterhouse, at the bottom of a tower block, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
trying to run a tech for abseilers coming down with video cameras. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
To a live audience, doing a piece of theatre. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Intercepted e-mail correspondent... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
That didn't feel quite as simple, but hell mend me, eh? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the unique setting of | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
the Highland football academy. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
It's almost time... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
The stories began with home, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
and soon another narrative seemed timely, even urgent. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
The story of young Scottish soldiers, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
a very long way from their homes. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, may we present the Black Watch. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
Welcome to this story of the Black Watch, eh? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
The reason we had the idea of Black Watch was that, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
when I started in Hope Street on the 1st of November 2004, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
the newsagent, I went downstairs to the newsagent, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
and I bought the Herald and the Scotsman, obviously. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
And the first page of the Herald was an article | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
saying that Tony Blair was trying to disband | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
the Black Watch regiment and put all of the Scottish regiments | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
into one thing called the Scottish Regiment. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
And then on page three, so two pages on, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
there was a little sidebar article | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
which was talking about two young men, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
two 17-year-olds from the Black Watch regiment, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and the tone of the article was about their pride | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and their family's pride how their fathers and grandfathers | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
had been part of the Black Watch regiment, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
and they'd been killed in an IED, in Iraq, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and what this meant to the community and the tragedy of that. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
And I thought, my God, in a way, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
theatre is about the gap between two things. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
And I thought, if ever there is the possibility of a piece of theatre, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
it's between those - literally, physically - | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
between those two pages. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
I definitely fancy it. What the fuck else are we going to dae? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
I cannae be arsed with the pits any more. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Aye, the pits are fucked. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
ALL: Where do we sign? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Oh-ho-ho... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
OMINOUS PIANO | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
# In Forfar I was born and bred | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
# But faith, I d' think shame, sir | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
# To tell the weary life I led | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
# A'fore I left my hame, sir | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
# Hurrah, hurrah, wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh... # | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
John Tiffany's got an incredible capacity for sentiment | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
in the most positive way. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
And understanding, you know, why we need story, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
and where that comes from. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
# Hurrah, hurrah, wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh... # | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
So he really was somebody who celebrated | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
those Scottish traditions and the music. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
He was consciously bringing all of those things | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
which he felt was so important, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
and actually were slightly waning at the time, because they were | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
no longer fashionable, into Black Watch, into telling that story. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
# Wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh. # | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
I thought we would be the ruin of the National Theatre, genuinely. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
I found myself in a rehearsal room having said to Greg, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
you can do these interviews with - | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
over there in Fife, they happened - | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
you can do these interviews with six soldiers who had | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
just come back from their second tour of Iraq. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
But I want to do a collage, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
so that it's not a, kind of, traditionally structured new play. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
RADIO NEWS REPORT CRACKLES INTO LIFE | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
'..it's ten past eight. There was deep concern, anger indeed, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
'when the news leaked out a few weeks ago | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
'that soldiers of the Black Watch were to be sent north | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
'to help out the Americans in Iraq. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
'The area in which they were to be deployed | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
'was described here as the Triangle of Death. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
'So it has turned out for three of them, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
'blown up yesterday by a suicide car bomber. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
'Eight more were injured. The ambush...' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
The first time I heard about the play | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
was through a friend of mine. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
I went with a bit of trepidation, thinking, actors playing us, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:54 | |
and then the scene with the pool table, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
where the bayonet comes through. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
I think that was that moment of realisation | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
that there was something special about this play. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
We watched one of the first run-throughs, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and I choke up even saying it now, because I sat there, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and I thought, "Oh, my God - | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
"something's happened which makes me believe in theatre again." | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
Aye, hold on! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I think they've found something in this car. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
I hope it's porn! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
A GAELIC LAMENT FADES IN | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
'Mother uniform 3362 | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
'P4.' | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
What Black Watch did, you know, when it first came out, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
at the Fringe in 2006, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
it was, obviously, there was a bit of turmoil going on with the | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
seven Scottish regiments and what was happening with amalgamations. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
It did bring a focus. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
It did bring a community focus of, we want to keep our regiment, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
you know, we want to keep our identity. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
I fought for my regiment. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
I fought for my company. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I fought for my platoon. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
I fought for my section. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
I fought for my mates. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
And that was important to everybody, and it still is. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
It still is to me, as an ex-serving Black Watch soldier. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
And to probably ex-servicemen, soldiers 20, 30 years before me. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
We will always class ourselves as Black Watch. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
And we'll always class ourselves as 1st Battalion. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I'm so glad that we were able to honour those lads. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
ALL: Five, six, seven, eight! | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Very deep in my, kind of, soul is something | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
which I feel honoured to have been able to tell their story. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
And I know Gregory Burke feels the same. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
The thing that I always found really tragic about Black Watch | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
was that it was so universal. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
And that also, it was still so relevant, oddly, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
for us to be able to keep touring it year after year. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
That was actually a great tragedy, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
that we hadn't learned from it and it was still important, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and it still is. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Black Watch went where generations of Scots themselves had gone before, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
all over the world. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
It was an eclectic and confident calling card. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Heralding a year of diverse and innovative productions. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland had arrived. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
And in that same year, they staged a production that represented another | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
strong strand of Scotland's theatrical tradition. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
It was a well-known, well-loved story, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
with songs everyone could sing along to. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Scottish audiences welcomed the return | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
of Danny McGlone and Suzi Kettles | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
as John Byrne's cult television show, Tutti Frutti, hit the stage. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
# But should we be apart | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
# I really love you, baby... # | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Tah-da! | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
The King's Theatre. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
Wow, ten years. It's funny, isn't it, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
seeing it without all the tabs and the side bits and... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
It looks way bigger. It looks massive. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Ten years, that's ridiculous! | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
There was a huge hunger for Tutti Frutti. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
It had been so huge in Scotland. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
I was about 17 or 18 when it came out | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
and I remember absolutely worshipping the show. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
In 20 years, it hadn't been seen nor heard of, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and it became almost like a, kind of, Scottish folklore. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
"Tutti Frutti, do you remember Tutti Frutti?" | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Danny? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
Danny McGlone? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
I thought you were supposed to be in New York. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
It's me. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
Suzi Kettles. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
People liked it for the nostalgia as well. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
That's a big John Byrne thing. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
I'm going to hold my hands up, when I first read the script I was, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
like, some of it, I didn't get. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
It's from my nana's kind of era. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
You know, going up the dancing and cutting a rug, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
and all that kind of stuff. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
And I think that's what people love about it, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
that it's from a bygone time. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
You know, it reminds them of their nana, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
and of, "Oh, yeah, my grandad and his quiff," | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
you know, it reminds me of all that. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
# Dum, dum, dum, dummy-doo-wah | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
# Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
# Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-ooh-ah | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
# Only the lonely | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
# Only the lonely. # | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
People remembered lines. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
These John Byrne-isms that were so memorable from the TV show, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
that hadn't been in popular culture for 20 years, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
still remained in the audience's mind. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
What you mean, it was OK? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
Three minutes is a lot better than a lot of guys could manage | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
coming straight off a Silver Jubilee tour. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
And it was more like five minutes, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
I can see the alarm clock from this side of the bed. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
I'm not always a disaster. | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
Is that you finished? See, there you go again, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
that's twice you've asked that in the past three minutes. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Correction, five minutes. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
John Byrne was in the rehearsal room, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
and he had a manual typewriter, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
and you'd see him watching what you were doing. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Every so often you'd hear... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
HE MAKES A TYPING NOISE | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
And you'd go... Oh, I've not said that right. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
And then he would come up at the end of the scene | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and hand you bit of paper, and go... | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
"Try that." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
And you'd look at it and go, "Ah! | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
"Absolute genius." | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
..The Majestics! | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
# Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy... # | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
They're not a great band. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
They weren't meant to be this, kind of, polished, you know, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
brilliant band. It's this dysfunctional band. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
So even though it was a bit rough around the edges, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
you had to just keep thinking, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
"Well, this is real and this is what it would be like." | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
They wanted it to be raw and live, and done every night, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
so it wasn't some track that you were miming to. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
# Yeah! | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy... # | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
It was a complete and utter joy from start to finish. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
It was odd, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
it was... Fun. ..fun. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Quite scary. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
But really, really, exciting at the same time. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Yeah, you knew you were part of something special. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Yeah. I think. With the NTS, but especially with Tutti Frutti. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
# Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo. # | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Gathered in a theatre, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
Scots rarely reflect the dour image often projected | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
onto the national character. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Nor has the Scottish character been adequately expressed | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
through macho stereotype. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
A richer, glittering persona | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
has always had its flamboyant voice on our stages, too. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
In 2007, its incarnation | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
was Alan Cummings' rock god, Dionysius, in The Bacchae. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
It started with me being lowered, by my ankles, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
with my back to the audience, like a god, descending. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
I had a gold kilt outfit on and so basically, you know, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
the first thing was my bum at the beginning of the Bacchae. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
It's an inverted cross. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Which didn't escape me. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
And then David wrote this line for Alan. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
So, Thebes... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
..I'm back! | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
I hadn't appeared on a Scottish stage for 16 years. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
It was a ballsy thing to do. It was a ballsy decision, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
it was a ballsy kind of start. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
For your benefit, I appear in human form. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Like you... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
fleshy. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Man, woman - it was a close-run thing. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
He decided to make Dionysius this kind of returning rock star. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:57 | |
The music was very kind of, um... | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
rousing and anthemy when Dionysius sang | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
and when the girls backed him up. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
And there's nothing like, you know, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
playing a god, singing your head off, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
being backed up by nine gorgeous black girls. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
It doesn't get much better than that. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
# We are the Bacchae! | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
# We left our homes | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
# To give ourselves to him | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
# It's free work | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
# It's easy work | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
# You! You! | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
# You stand quiet | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
# In front of your houses | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
# Kneel down | 0:19:40 | 0:19:47 | |
# For Dionysus... # | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Gospel is the facilitator of religious ecstasy | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
in such a brilliant, brilliant way. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
So we'd always wanted that kind of energy. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Aretha Franklin, you know, through to Whitney Huston. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
That kind of amazing power of sexuality - black, female power - | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
was what we wanted to tap into. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
# Do it, do it, do it | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
# Let's scream demands | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
# Let's scream demands, everyone in the land | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
# Everyone must dance | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
# Everyone in the land must dance to the mountain | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
# Everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone in the land | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
# Must dance to the mountain, where the women wait | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
# Joy! Joy! | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
# Joy to you who come | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
# To the mountain... # | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
I loved the fact that music | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
was such a big element of The Bacchae. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
I mean, there is always singing in that show, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
but taking a sort of contemporary style and putting it into a play, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
so that you merge both the ancient and the modern. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
That's what makes exciting theatre. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
And I think that's what Scottish theatre's always done, actually. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
# Yes, we flow with milk | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
# Yes, we flow with wine | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
# Yes, we are made of honey... # | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
I think in Scotland, in general, we've got quite a good, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
healthy connection with bacchanalia in all its forms. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
We're quite sensual people. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
We all enjoy drinking, we all enjoy letting go. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
It's part of our culture. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Having been away from Scotland so much of my adult life, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
I really think I understand what makes me Scottish | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
and what makes which parts of my style of performing | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
come from Scottish theatre. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
A lot of it is to do with, kind of, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
breaking the fourth wall and using music | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
and connecting with the audience in a very direct way. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
As a country, we all tell a story, we all do a turn. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I think, at our core, we've got a really great sort of ability | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
to just engage and, you know, do our turn. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
That's what I've been doing all these years. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
# Yes! Yes! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
# Yeeesssss! # | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Scotland's National Theatre was starting to find its place. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Some of what it did broke new ground. | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
Some strengthened older traditions. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Other aspects of Scottish experience had yet to be addressed. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
But there is one constant in the life of any theatre company, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
a continual argument as to the value of creative arts. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
In 2008, the UK had entered another recession. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
And the argument had to be made for the necessity | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
of bringing live theatre to every part of a nation. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Often the best argument that can be made is to do so, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
and demonstrate its effect. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
took a wide range of its productions to the furthest venues in the land. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
One of these was Long Gone Lonesome, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
the story of Shetland's Thomas Fraser. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
I was approached by the National Theatre of Scotland | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
round about 2008. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
They asked me if I'd ever heard of Thomas Fraser. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
I said, "What, you mean the singing creelman from Shetland? | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
"Yeah, I've heard of him." | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The opening scene, for me, was fantastic. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
They put on a simple reel-to-reel player, like Thomas had, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
and it was all dark. The only thing lit was the machine. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
And out came My Melancholy Blues. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
And it was the closest thing you'll ever get | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
to a live Thomas Fraser performance. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
TINNY RECORDING: # Because I got those melancholy blues... # | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
He was a very shy performer in his younger days. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
So, latterly, when I was growing up, he wasn't performing any more. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
But he was still doing his tapes. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
And people would give him blank tapes | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
and ask him to record for them. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
There was a lot of that. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
Almost all the theatre pieces I've ever written | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
have been simple, straightforward | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
and about establishing that direct contact with the audience. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
So, when electricity arrived in Burra, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
what was the first thing that Thomas Fraser - | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
a 26-year-old bachelor, crofter, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
fisherman, fiddler, would-be singer - | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
what was the first thing he rushed out to buy? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
So when I started to work with Vicky Featherstone, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
my natural inclination towards direct address | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
and her natural inclination towards finding something stripped down, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
and immediately effective, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
these two things came together. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
We were singing off the same hymn sheet. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
It was the latest in cutting-edge technology - | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
a reel-to-reel tape recorder. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I think my favourite moment of the play | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
is where we hear Thomas singing. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
And he's singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow, which is a surprising song. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
It's a showtune, it's a Hollywood number. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
TAPE: # Somewhere | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
# Over the rainbow... # | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
Most of the time, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
he did down-to-earth blues or heartfelt country songs, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
and here he is doing a Judy Garland number. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
But he's got a fantastically inventive arrangement for it, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and it becomes almost like soul music. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
# ..once in a lullaby | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
# Somewhere | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
# Over the rainbow... # | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
And then, me and the band join in, backing him up. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
So instead of just being Thomas and his acoustic guitar, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
he's got a whole band behind him. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
And then I had to join in singing harmonies to his lead vocals. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
# Someday I'll wish upon a star | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
# And wake up where the clouds are far behind me | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
# Oh, yeah... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
It was sort of surreal but, um... | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
..really, really well done. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
And we enjoyed, you know, we enjoyed every minute of it. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
I felt that the National Theatre's play really made a terrific job | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
of putting Thomas Fraser across. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
His personality, his musical ability, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
the environment and the circumstances he faced. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
I was very proud. It was a great moment for us. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
A great moment for Thomas. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Every song in the play was one that Thomas recorded, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
sometimes favourite numbers of his that he recorded many times. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
But, as I was writing the play, I... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
..struggled to find a song that would sum up everything | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
that had come before, or at least sum up everything | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
I'd come to understand about his character. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
And I was searching around, thinking, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
"In all these hundreds of numbers he recorded, there must be one." | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
And I couldn't find one. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
But then I did stumble across a song | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
that felt like he should have recorded it. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
# I don't want to set the world on fire... # | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
It's about somebody who has | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
no ambition for worldly fame or fortune, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
he just wants to light a flame in one person's heart, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
the person he loves. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
But I felt that's what Thomas was doing with his music. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
He has no interest in going to the London Palladium. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
He wanted to record his songs, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
or play them to one or two people who were in the room with him. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
And he would light the flame of music in their heart. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
# I've got no ambition | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
# For worldly acclaim | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
# I just want to be the one you love | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
# And with your admission | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
# You'd feel the same | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
# I have reached the goal I'm dreaming of... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
I think there's lots of untold stories out there, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
lots of local heroes. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
I think the National Theatre are doing a great job | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
in taking these stories out to the wider world. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
# ..a flame in your heart. # | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland was now five years old. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Its slogan, Theatre Without Walls, had been realised in many forms | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
while always recognising particular Scottish theatrical traditions. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
I killed him! | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
And in 2011, the very particular nature | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
of Scottish political identity was soon to become clear. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
History demonstrates that Scotland has often made different choices | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
to her southern neighbours. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
We shall bring forward a referendum, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and trust the people with Scotland's own constitutional future. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
And as those tensions became increasingly evident, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
the National Theatre looked back to the culture of our borderlands | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
with The Strange Undoing Of Prudencia Hart. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
# I heard twa corbies makin a mane | 0:28:52 | 0:28:59 | |
# The tane unto the other did say | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
# "Oh, whar sall we gang..." # | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Vicky said to us, she wanted to do something about the Borders | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
and I knew about Border ballads | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
and so she sent us to Kelso, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
where we stayed for a couple of days | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
and interviewed various people. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
We went to the pub and there was a folk session. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
And a huge amount of that two days ended up in the play. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:36 | |
# His hawk is tae the huntin gane | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
# His hound tae fetch the wild-fowl hame | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
# His lady's tain anither mate | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
# So we may mak oor dinner swate | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
# So we may mak oor dinner swate. # | 0:29:54 | 0:30:01 | |
I wanted to make a story that you could... | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
A yarn, you know, something you could sit and tell over a pint. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
It's difficult to know where to start | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
With the strange undoing of Prudencia Hart. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Then the act of translating that into rhyming couplets | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
was a means of harnessing that story's power. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
And storytelling, that most misused of all arts. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Horses absolutely must not go ahead of carts. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
There's a central idea as well, which we were both driven by, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
which was the theatricality of the troupe. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
The travelling band of actors, who have, at their fingertips, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
the skills of song, music, storytelling, mime, gesture. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
Prudencia Hart, then, was a prudent 28-year-old postgraduate student. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
And, indeed, you know, the ability | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
to create set and theatricality out of nothing. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
And you think of it in Scottish terms, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
it goes back through Communicado and Gerry Mulgrew's work, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
It goes back through 7:84. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
It's the folk tradition of theatricality. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
CRACKLY, INDISTINCT HUMMING OF A BALLAD | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
This is nice. Nice? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
It's Robert Burns. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
Oh? It's sung by Robert Burns. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
That's Burns' own voice. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
In a pub, in Mauchline, in 1789. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
I found the record under a pile of lectures by Hume, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
in a box labelled "pornographic etchings". | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
And so I think, to me, that way of storytelling, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
where you mix all these forms together, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
yes, it's a really Scottish tradition, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
and I feel very proud that we appear to be, sort of, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
cornering a market in it, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
but at the same time I don't think it's just Scottish. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I think it's absolutely universal. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
As, I think, is attested to the fact that Prudencia has been able | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
to tour the world to similar responses wherever it's been. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
# I just | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
# Can't get you out | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
# Of my head | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
# Oh, your loving | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
# Is all I think about... # | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It was a wonderful, wonderful experience. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
It was really very, very enjoyable. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
It's a beautifully anarchic piece of work. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
Oh, yeah. There's so much energy. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
# La-la-la, la-la la-la-la... # | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
Everybody was drawn into the action. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
I think it's a marvellous piece of work. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
I think the best thing about it, it's theatre for everybody. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
It's not a theatre for people that live in the big city | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
or have access to those facilities. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
It's taken drama and taken it where it should be, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
which is at the heart of a community. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
And getting people involved. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
Which they certainly were tonight. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
CHEERING | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
A GAELIC REEL IS SUNG | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Scots song, Scots story and Scots poetry. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
A National Theatre inherits a responsibility | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
to represent all the voices of the nation. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
In its brief life, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
the company has only begun to wrestle with that gigantic task. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
But it has frequently honoured | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
another ancient Scottish theatrical tradition - | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
producing work which highlights social issues | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
and challenges political power. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
The true story of the Glasgow Girls' fight for justice | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
for families seeking asylum in the city | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
had captured the attention of the nation. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
Now it was given theatrical form. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
My name's Agnesa. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
In March 2005, I was detained | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
and taken to Jarlswood detention centre from these flats. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
Then one day, there was an empty seat on the bus. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
Aggie? Agnesa? Where's Agnesa gone?! | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
LOUD THUDS | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
'..Home Office Border Agency health and safety report.' | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
'Dawn raid, Glasgow, 2005.' | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
She'd been living in Glasgow for five years at that time. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
And for her to be treated so cruelly was just really inhumane. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I think we all felt really, like, angry and upset. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
We were crying our eyes out in the corridor of our school. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
That one of our friends was just taken away. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
I felt really angry. I felt as though | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
it wasn't really the kind of impression of our country | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
that I wanted to give. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
We want to help. It's just not right. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I can't believe this is happening in Scotland. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
You want to help? I know we don't know you guys that well, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
but Agnesa's one of us now. We can't just let folk take her away. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
If you're on strike for Agnesa, we're on strike, too. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
I'd been very aware of the story, way back in 2005. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
I thought this story - | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
particularly because it's led by a group of teenage girls | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
that just have a passion for life | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and a kind of defiance and a kind of fearlessness - | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
I thought, "This deserves a bigger, bolder, more popular form." | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
And I thought that a musical was the best way to do that. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
I just looked at her and thought, "What?" | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
And she's like, "A musical." And I was like, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
"Do you know what our story's about? It's about child detention. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
"How are you going to make a musical about that?" | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
If you've come to see triumph over adversity, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm afraid you're going to be a little bit disappointed. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Our story is mostly about photocopying. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Amal! What? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
I must have burst out laughing, I mean, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
how on Earth she was going to turn our story | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
about seven wee lasses from Drumchapel | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
campaigning for the rights of child refugees, I didn't know. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
But she did a wonderful job. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
And the way it turned out, it's kind of like a love letter to Glasgow. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
# We're at home in Glasgow | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
# It's really not that bad | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
# There's bits of the city that are pretty shitty | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
# But at least it's not Baghdad | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
# We're at home in Glasgow | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
# We're getting on quite well | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
# They say it's a hard and a difficult place | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
# But trust us | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
# They know nothing | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
# About hell... # | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
I had been developing close relationships with the girls. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
I'd absolutely vowed I would involve them at every stage of the way. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
And we stuck to our word. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Let's just go over Emma and Jennifer arriving in. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
At the end of a long week where I'd been working | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
with all the actresses, the girls walked into the room, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
and at that point are actresses were right in the middle of singing | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
a five-part harmony of what was to be the anthem, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
We Are The Glasgow Girls. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
# We are the Glasgow girls | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
# We show them how to do it when we... # | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
And the real girls came into the room | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
and I think they were quite blown away by it. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
# The Glasgow girls together, we are strong... # | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
We all started crying, and they cried, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
and nobody knew why everybody was crying, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
but it was a great feeling. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
When I seen my actress, I was like, "Oh, my God. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
"She's actually just like me, she just acts the way I act." | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
I was quite shocked that Cora picked the individuals | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
for the right people. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
And I got to a stage where I was like, a bit emotional, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
because it took me back to when I was detained. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
The music really captures your emotions. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
Especially if you don't know the story, as you go along with it, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
and you listen to the story, the music's in the background. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
People that have never really known about it | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
then understand the feelings that are there. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
# We are the Glasgow Girls | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
# We'll show them how to do it... # | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
Teenagers get a really bad press. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
I think we underestimate their skill and their bravery. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Here was a bunch of girls who wanted to be lawyers, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
who wanted to be activists, who wanted to, literally, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
go out and grab the world and change it and make it better. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
# Glasgow Girls will show them how to do it... # | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
If seven Glasgow girls can make a difference, then anybody can. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Especially coming from Drumchapel as well. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
# We are the Glasgow Girls! # | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
After seven years, a new stage | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
of the National Theatre of Scotland's existence began | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
as Laurie Sansome took up the position of artistic director. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
One of his first jobs was to grapple with how to respond | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
to a much anticipated vote, when, in 2014, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
the nation was asked to make a historic decision. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Hey, girls. What youse talking about? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
The referendum. Oh, God. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland produced a timely | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
theatrical response, with a whole range of productions | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
as the community of Scotland made up its mind. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
With independence, we will be a fairer and more successful country. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
A time when Scotland was struggling to reach consensus | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
on the strength of her desire for independence. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
When she was alternately threatened | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
and wooed by her powerful southern neighbour. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
When her own internal divisions seemed likely to erupt. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Not 2014, but 1424. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
The James Plays Trilogy demonstrated that the history being made now | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
had deep and familiar roots. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Cos I'm a bit passionate about Scottish history, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
it became my ambition to try and make that period of Scottish history | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
visible to Scotland. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Whenever I've talked to any audience or any group, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
they all say, with this note of apology, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
"Of course, I don't know anything about this period of history." | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Well, the truth is, nobody does. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
And I think that, particularly at the time I was writing, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
was a moment when Scotland was examining what it was as a nation. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
And it felt like a really fertile moment | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
to bring these plays to the stage. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
Sorry, are you still...? | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
What? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
I don't want to disturb your prayers. Oh, no. I'm finished. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
I was waiting on you. Good. No, I'm finished. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
So... | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
..now we're married. Yes. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
We'll have the wedding blessed again in Scotland, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
and then we can have our wedding night. Yes. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
The characters all talk a very contemporary form of Scots, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
so that people could really get that sense of, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
this, in a sense, is happening now. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Or is still happening now. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
We're still connected to these lives, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
and they're still affecting decisions we make today. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
I asked to see the Treasury papers. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Why? Because someone has to start helping you. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Have you looked at these? God, no. There is no money, James. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
A choir, Margaret, a few singers. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
How many? | 0:41:24 | 0:41:25 | |
A small choir. How many? Only 40 or so. No. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
I wrote Queen Margaret of Denmark, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
and every time anyone talked about casting, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
I went, "Yeah, Sofie Grabol." | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
And everyone's going, "Yeah, right. Like you're going..." | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
And I was going, "Ask her! Ask her! Just ask her!" | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
And they did. And she said yes. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I must say, when the project was presented to me, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
I thought, "I don't have the nerve to do that." | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Because, I mean, one thing is to... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
..to take on a great part, a big part. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
But in another language than your own? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
But then I read it. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Who would want the job of ruling Scotland? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I'm Danish, you ignorant, abusive lump of manure. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
I come from a rational nation with reasonable people. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
You know the problem with you lot? | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
You've got fuck all except attitude. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
You scream and shout about how you want things done, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
and how things ought to be done, and when the chance comes? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Look at you. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
What are you frightened of? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
Making things worse? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
I remember actually, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
when she said, "You've got fuck all except attitude," | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
I remember the reaction in Edinburgh, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
in the Festival Theatre, was so massive. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
And very often people applauded. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
And they always laughed and cheered, and it was like you felt this... | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
..this very strong focus on, "Who are we Scottish people?" | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
When I first started writing, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
we didn't know there was going to be a referendum. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
And then it was, I think, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
halfway through the writing process that we found out | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
there was going to be one and also it was going to be in 2014. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
And I remember thinking at that point, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
"Oh, please, please let them go on that year." | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
Because, of course, it added so much for an audience. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
I think, probably, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
the most exciting moment in my professional life | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
was when the plays were on in Edinburgh, before the referendum | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
and feeling how the attention of the audience came alive | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
at all the moments that were actually talking about | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
what it meant to be Scottish, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:48 | |
what it meant to be independently Scottish, or not. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
Would one of you please explain to me | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
why it is I still love you so much? | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
Would someone please tell me... | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
SHE SCOFFS ..why a rational woman, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
born in a reasonable country, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
would rather live here and be your Queen | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
than exist in quiet, happy peace anywhere else on Earth? | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
I am the Queen of Scots. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
And I don't always like that. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
But I do love it. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
Always. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:28 | |
From the referendum to the general election, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
two potent and particular results. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Politicians and pundits are still arguing | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
their meaning and consequences. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:40 | |
However, it was undeniable that, at this moment, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
Scottish audiences were vividly aware | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
of their own cultural identity. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
The National Theatre's voice had developed into something | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
as uniquely Scottish as its audience. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
It had all the vigour of its strong tradition of song and story, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
but still remained youthful and rebellious. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Demonstrated by Our Ladies Of Perpetual Succour, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
based on Alan Warner's novel, The Sopranos. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
# ..whence cometh | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
# Whence cometh | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
# Whence cometh hell... # | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
The play is about six Roman Catholic schoolgirls from Oban, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
who are travelling to Edinburgh for the choir competition, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
but the choir competition is the last thing on their minds. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
# Lift thine eyes O, lift thine eyes | 0:45:30 | 0:45:36 | |
# Eyes to the mountains | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
# Whence cometh | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
# Whence cometh | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
# Whence cometh hell. # | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
It's so out there. It's so full-on, in your face. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
No holds barred, and there's no apology for it. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
This is fucking ridiculous! | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
Six in the fucking morning, and Condom's not even here. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
My wife was in a school choir, Catholic school choir. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
And I'd been hearing lots of stories | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
about the adventures they'd had. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
On the bus, ladies! Yes! | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
Got the goods, girls? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:21 | |
Two bottles of lemon-flavoured Hooch, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
disguised in a bottle of White's Lemonade. Whoo! | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
The idea was to move this choir from the countryside down to the city | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
and then back to the country again. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
That idea of transition has a dramatic element to it | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
that interests me very much. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
So that contrast was something I wanted to explore. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
We've all read the book, haven't we? THEY ALL AGREE | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
Yeah. It's totally mental. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Like, its quite a challenging read, I think. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
But absolutely incredible, just, like, the way it's written. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
It's just, like, overflowing with these gutsy, amazing, beautiful, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:59 | |
horrific descriptions of every little thing. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
I've got two years' worth of pocket money and a packet of condoms. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
Let's go mental! Yes! | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
I thought you were saving to go to Lloret de Mar? | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
When my sister went to Lloret de Mar, right, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
she drank so much that she puked up all over a pedalo, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
then she ate paella that gave her diarrhoea so bad | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
she had to stick sanitary towels up her arsehole. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
It was fucking brilliant! | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
I'd love to do that. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
ALL: We'd all love to do that! | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
I don't think I have any insights whatsoever into female psychology. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
You just observe. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
It's true I spend time hanging around Boot's make-up counter, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
but other than that, you observe, you have life around you. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
And you just see what's going on. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
It's obviously really clear that they were in a choir, so, obviously, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
there's going to be some really classical stuff. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
But it was the ELO stuff that was a surprise to me. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
Ladies! | 0:47:57 | 0:47:58 | |
A one, two, three! | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
# The sun is shining in the sky... # | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
It's inevitably structured around music, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
because it's a choir competition. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
The genius idea of the play is to bring in music | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
as almost a character in the play. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
# It's a beautiful new day... # | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
It absolutely generates this momentum | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
that just wasn't there on the page. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
# ..the sun shines brightly... # | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
When we hit Mr Blue Sky, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
it's the first song of the show that's not a hymn or choral music, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
so it really just hits the audience. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
And we're singing it straight to them. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
Like, I'm walking along the stage, | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
pointing at people, looking directly in the eye. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
I want to give them that shock factor, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
cos it's the first time that we get to do that. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
# Hey, you with the pretty face | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
# Welcome to the human race | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
# A celebration | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
# Mr Blue Sky's up there waiting | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
# And today is the day we've waited for | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
# Oh-oh-oh | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
# Mr Blue Sky, please tell us why | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
# You had to hide away for so long? | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
# So long | 0:49:10 | 0:49:11 | |
# Where did we go wrong? # | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
It's a gig, essentially. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
It's, like, part choir concert, part gig. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
And that's why I think that the songs fit in the way that they do, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
because we don't try to explain why they are where they are. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
When we come out, we almost come out | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
and go, "Well, you're not judging us, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
"we're going to judge you. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:30 | |
"We're going to judge you as an audience now. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
"We're going to tell you this." | 0:49:32 | 0:49:33 | |
It's everything that you ever wanted to do as a teenager, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:39 | |
that you would never have done. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:40 | |
You're literally getting to put that every single night on stage. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
You all right? She's only had a couple of gin and tonics, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
but she's no' that used to it. SHE VOMITS | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
Jesus Christ! | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
What did you do that for? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
I didn't want to get sick on the carpet. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
We piss on there rather than risk the fucking bogs! | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
Your clothes'll be ruined, Kay. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
These girls are heroic figures. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
In the novel, and also very much in the play. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
# You got me running, going out of my mind | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
# You got my thinking that I'm wasting my time | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
# Don't bring me down... # | 0:50:11 | 0:50:12 | |
They come across to me, not as victims, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
not as troubled people, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
but people whose energies | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
give us all something that we can learn from. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
So I see it as a celebration. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
In 2016, Scotland is agitated by the results | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
of yet another referendum. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
The British people have spoken, and the answer is, "We're out." | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
Her National Theatre is ten years old, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
but 2016 marks another anniversary. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
It is 100 years since the Battle of the Somme, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
the most devastating conflict of World War I. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
It was this anniversary that the National Theatre of Scotland | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
chose to commemorate in the recent production, The 306: Dawn. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:02 | |
# No name | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
# I have no name | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
# No name | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
# I have no name... # | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
The piece is about the 306 men | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
executed for cowardice, desertion, mutiny | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
in the First World War. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
It makes us think about, not just the glorious dead, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
the valiant dead, the brave dead, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
who died fighting for their country, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
but it makes you think about the people | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
who were just totally broken by this horrendous experience | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
that we put people through. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
# Tell me those things that you want to forget | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
# I don't have, I don't have, I don't have | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
# What's mine is yours Have words... # | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
My grandparents, Gertrude and Harry Farr, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
are the real-life characters in 306: Dawn. | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
# Show me where it hurts | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
# And I can make it better. # | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
God, I wish I could crack your head open, like an egg. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
I wish I could climb inside your brain | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
and see what has been going on in there. Yeah. Me too. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
During the 1980s, I was tracing the family tree, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:28 | |
and, at the time, my grandmother, Harry's wife, was still alive. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
So I thought, well, I'd ask her the question, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
as we were going over to France, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
if she could tell me where his grave was. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
And my grandmother said to me, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
"Unfortunately, he hasn't got a grave." | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
Then she told me that he was executed | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
for showing cowardice in the face of the enemy. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
But she added, "He wasn't a coward. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
"He was suffering from shell shock." | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
I saw the medical officer's report. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
Yeah, he reckons I'm pulling a fast one. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
I'm sure he doesn't. Yeah, he does. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
He thinks the stammer and the screaming are for show. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
No-one thinks that. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
Shell shock. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
That's what one of the blokes called it. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
But the MO don't believe in it. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Thinks that men who cry because of the guns are faking. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
There was such a dreadful stigma about the executed soldiers, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
that my grandmother had never told anyone about it. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
Harry's father, who was an ex-military man, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
forbade the family to even talk about him. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Repeat after me. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
The facts... | 0:53:35 | 0:53:36 | |
Desertion. Desertion! | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Mutiny. Mutiny! | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
We were stepping into unknown territory, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
making a piece that, is it an opera? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
Is it a musical? | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
Is it somewhere in between? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
But we all know that song | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
is carrying a lot of the heart of the story. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
# Insubordination | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
# Insubordination... # | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
Often, the work we want to make at NTS | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
doesn't feel like it fits well in a rarefied proscenium arch, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:13 | |
where you're asking an audience to sit back and respectfully observe | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
something going on in another room. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
This isn't about that. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:20 | |
This is much more about putting the audience in a place | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
where they can be reflective. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
And, when we started to explore the stories, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
and the men were often kept in barns in the French countryside | 0:54:29 | 0:54:35 | |
after the court martial, waiting for their execution. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
And we wanted the audience to be in that barn, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
and that felt like the most honest way of the audience | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
being invited to remember and bear witness | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
to stories that had been forgotten. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Firing squad, attention! | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
# No name | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
# I have no name... # | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
For 75 years, this particular episode of the war, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
the executed soldiers, was kept under wraps. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
And young children of today don't really know | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
what happened in the First World War. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Firing squad, present. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
There were schoolchildren sitting all around us, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
watching the play while I was there. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
And, actually, someone said, "It made me cry." | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
And I actually wanted to turn round and say, "It made me cry, it really | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
"made me cry as well, that's my great-grandfather up there." | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:55:36 | 0:55:37 | |
We were living the experience, you know. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
When you had the... | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
Especially the blasts. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
You felt like you were there. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
That you were in the turmoil, that you were in the chaos, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
that you were in the trenches. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
And just you get that feeling of hopelessness. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
The whole journey here, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:28 | |
you're coming somewhere you've never been before. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
So it's kind of surreal. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
That was amazing. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:34 | |
I don't think I've ever been moved so much by a piece of theatre. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
That was really quite powerful. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
How can a theatre company aspire to represent all Scottish theatre? | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
All Scots? All of Scotland? | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
The task is huge. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:55 | |
The nation itself is constantly changing. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland is only ten years old. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
Its future is unknown. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
But it's made a memorable beginning. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
The National Theatre of Scotland is a product, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
literally and figuratively, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
of devolution and how devolution changed Scotland. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
Ten years on, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
I think both the company and the country have really grown, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
and we're on the brink of... | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
..hopefully more greatness. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:28 | |
When the work was entirely unique and only came about | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
because of that Scottish form, or that Scottish story, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
that was what people were interested in. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
Because no-one else could have made that in that way, | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
at that moment in time. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
The Black Watches, the James Plays, the Bacchaes - they'll happen. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
They'll happen cos artists will make them happen. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
But, strategically, it's about getting out into those communities | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
and being a national theatre, a truly national theatre, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
by actually taking work to the nation. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
It can't stand still, by definition. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
It's always changing, and that means it can really respond | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
to the cultural moment in which it's making work. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
And I think that's its great strength. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
We mustn't ever lose that spirit, | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
that idea that it's Scotland's National Theatre | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
and we don't need to be like anybody else. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
We should keep doing it our way, whatever that way is. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 |