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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Patrick Kielty. And Angellica

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Bell. Patrick, good to have you with me but you have been busy today,

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presenting the BBC Radio New Comedy Award.

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presenting the BBC Radio New Comedy macro it's been going for years and

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some other people it's brought through include Alan Carr, Peter Kay

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and Sarah Millican. through include Alan Carr, Peter Kay

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brilliant final and as a treat, I have brought the finalists. Athena

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Kugblenu, Andy Storey... Hello! LAUGHTER

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Kugblenu, Andy Storey... Hello! We have Michael Stranney, Russ Peers

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and someone who looks a little bit happier than the rest, because she

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is the winner, Yuriko Kotani. APPLAUSE

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Congratulations. What is it like being up with some of the greatest

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comedians the country has ever seen or heard? It was such an honour to

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get to this stage. I still can't believe that I won it! She's going

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to cry. It means so much to walk away with this. I know you are

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feeling very emotional and this is what you did to take home the award.

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There is one word, one beautiful English word I love, and we don't

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have this word in Japanese. It is... Ish. They are tears of joy.

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Comedy and tears and we are only two minutes in! You can listen back to

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the whole show on iPlayer. These guys might be the future of comedy

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but tonight's guest has been making us laugh since before they were

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born. He's written comedies like the donkey and Outnumbered. And he has a

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shelf of awards that puts young upstarts like me to shame. Please

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welcome Andy Hamilton! APPLAUSE Bow down! Thanks for coming. Any

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words of advice for the finalists? Don't listen to bald old men giving

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you advice! I think it is maybe not listening to much. Everyone has to

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carve out their own identity. There's a danger sometimes that if

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you listen to to much, lose your voice. Don't listen to too much

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advice. That is my advice! When you were starting out in the 1970s, is

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it easier for these guys coming through all what it easier back

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then? In some ways, it is easier because you have more outlets like

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YouTube and everything, so they get to make stuff and appear earlier. I

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think it is harder to earn a living from it because there's not so much

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revenue at the end of it necessarily. Identity no. I'm the

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last person to ask. When I started, it was a lot less competitive. We

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will hear more about you and your tour later. On Tuesday, Mike Dilger

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strapped a camera to a toy dear, covered it in your in -- and failed

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to get stacks to make with it. Tonight he's on St Kilda, attempting

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to send a letter by simply throwing it into the sea and crossing his

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fingers. I think someone needs to have a quiet word with him.

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More than 100 miles out from the coast of Scotland, there are few

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places more isolated than the islands on St Kilda. But even here,

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human ingenuity managed to overcome the problems of communication. First

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inhabited around 4000 years ago, until the 1930s, a few hardy souls

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made this their home. With no phones on the island or postal service, the

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inhabitants of St Kilda found a novel way of keeping in touch with

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tiny boats, cast adrift on the torturer sees. The people of St

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Kilda fashion the boat outside any waterproof container sealed to a

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wooden keel with a handmade float attached. I've set myself the

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challenge of making and launching my very own mail boat for The One Show

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with a message for the mainland. But the first hurdle is getting there.

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Derek Gordon runs boat trips to St Kilda and knows all too well how

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treacherous the trip can be. The people of St Kilda would have very

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limited opportunities to come back to the mainland. Life for them was

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on this craggy piece of rock in the Atlantic, exposed to the storms that

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were coming in. It was very much survivalist living out there. But

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the problem is, it is such a hostile environment. You could not keep the

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boat. In fact, they did not go fishing. The entire foodstuff was

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sea birds. I have to say, it's a long journey on choppy seas. You can

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see why the postman did not make it part of his regular route. Five

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hours at sea and St Kilda's imposing cliffs come into view. The islanders

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would scale them in search of food but in 1930, the last 36 left the

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island for good. Today, the seas have been kind to us but it was

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rough waters and stormy weather that led to the creation of the first St

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Kilda mail boats. There was a journalist, John Sands, who had come

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to spend the summer but hoped to get off on the last boat of the season

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which did not happen because of the weather. At the end of January,

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1877, a boat came into the bay and it was Austrian sailors who had been

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shipwrecked. John Sands thought he could send what is called a mail

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boat, and unbelievably, five or six days later, it turned up on Orkney.

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Amazing! Wright three weeks after these men came to the bay, a naval

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vessel came to rescue them. In 1957 in the midst of the Cold War, St

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Kilda had a reprieve when the MoD set up a radar base on the island.

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For the first time, communication with the mainland became possible,

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albeit top-secret. Today's islanders are just temporary visitors,

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tourists and conservation groups. But an occasional mail boat keeps

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the tradition alive. Our mail boat is quite a simple design, basically

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a hollowed out piece of wood with a temp one attached which would it

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traditionally have been an inflated sheep bladder. It is heavily at the

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base of Richard stay upright and allow the GPS tracker inside the box

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to work. Also inside, a note for the finder, telling them to contact The

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One Show with its whereabouts. How long will it take for the post to

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arrive? With the right wind, two thirds of mail boats have made it to

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the mainland, although some go as far as Scandinavia and may take

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months to get there. St Kilda has an extreme exposure to the waves, a

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huge swell and deep oceanic currents, making it tough to get

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here and even more difficult to predict what my tiny mail boat is

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going to do. We will just have to wait and see. The moment of truth!

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For more than six weeks, we monitored the redoubtable mail boat

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before its signal faded. It was not heading to the mainland but hundreds

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of miles of course, bound for Norway, lost in the mail, for now.

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And The One Show mail boat has just sent me a letter to say that the

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stupid stand in host has forgotten to name check one of the axes

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introduced for the New Comedy Award, Ken Cheng! Give it up! APPLAUSE

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That is the look of a man disappointed that he lost the

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competition and not even getting a name check. Orange Rabiu feel bad. I

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do but joining us now, Mark Mason, the author of a book called Mail

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Obsessions. Before we speak to you, you have done that boat trip. Yes,

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to St Kilda and when you get there, there's a shop and they sell little

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woollen hats with puffin on and I only lost mine a couple of days ago.

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If there's anyone in that shop, you know where send it! Mark Connolly

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you have been delving into the history of the Royal Mail and

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Mike's mail boat is not the craziest form of post that has existed. The

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craziest one was in the Outer Hebrides, and to get the mail from

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one island to the other, this lunatic German called Gerhard Zucker

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in the 1930s, who lunatic German called Gerhard Zucker

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expert, self-proclaimed, which is lunatic German called Gerhard Zucker

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expert, decided he was... The Post Office agreed to let him do

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expert, decided he was... The Post of 1200 letters with a lot of rocket

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fuel and a big explosion. What could possibly go wrong? It

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fuel and a big explosion. What could destroyed most of the letters and

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they said they did not want anything to do with them.

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they said they did not want anything At one stage, this can't

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they said they did not want anything you could post a person? You could

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post yourself to an you could post a person? You could

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posted to Downing Street to see the Prime

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posted to Downing Street to see the with them with hats like that. But

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posted to Downing Street to see the design the form tag setting delivery

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of the letters because they were design the form tag setting delivery

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letters, they were women. In other countries, they have revolutions but

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in this country, we have the Prime Minister's Butler arguing over

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whether or not a woman is a letter. Oscar Wilde had a cunning way to

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send the post? He used to write them and put the stamp on and

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send the post? He used to write them out of the window onto the pavement

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outside his house because he knew someone walking down the

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outside his house because he knew would think someone had dropped a

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letter they wanted posting and they would pick it up and post it for

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him. You say you would not do it but if I found a letter on the ground

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with a stamp would you not just if I found a letter on the ground

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it up and put it in the post box? That is

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it up and put it in the post box? check if there was money in it

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first? Didn't his neighbours catch on, again," it's that lazy

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cheapskate Oscar Wilde", on, again," it's that lazy

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back through his letterbox? I would have done that. And animals on the

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back through his letterbox? I would offices and

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back through his letterbox? I would civil servants.

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they got a pension. The record-holder was Tibbs

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they got a pension. The who was 23 and was obviously very

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good at his 14 years. He was the record-holder.

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Knew briefly worked at the Post Office? Yes I did but I got promoted

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to a thing they were experimenting Office? Yes I did but I got promoted

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with, a new system sending information through computers in the

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1970s. I had to write a custom document and I was thinking,

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"sending information from computers? How is that going to work? " That

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was in the 70s. The Queen said the first e-mail in 1976, so she was

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slightly ahead of the game. first e-mail in 1976, so she was

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called the experimental packet switching system. You had to wait

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for clusters of data and send them by the phone line to another

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company. I don't know what happened then. I did not know the post could

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be so interesting. I'm lost. Return to sender! Mail Obsessions is out

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now. This is a strange question but how do you like your potatoes?

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Polite. I don't mind. I'm easy. I like mine with more potatoes. Just

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potatoes with potatoes, served by an Irish mammy. What about you? On the

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rocks with a dash of cola. He is how. It seems it is not as comfort

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food we get from potatoes these days but our Friday night table as well.

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On this farm in Herefordshire, all the potatoes are used to make their

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own vodka and gin. Why did Farmer William Chase decide his potatoes

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should be going into spirits rather than onto supermarket shelves? I

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could not make any money. When we went with the supermarket, they only

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wanted these and then the pretty ones, which was 50%. We were under

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constant pressure all the time. Now fully gin and vodka, we can use

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everything. So it's a very efficient use of the potato crop? Yes,

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fantastic, it all goes in. It takes 300 potatoes to make one bottle of

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gin. Potatoes? That is almost what we are looking at here. So how is

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this actually done? Fresh from the fields, the potatoes are cleaned,

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peeled and then, well, then they are matched. Mashed potato comes in

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here, injected with steam, basically cooking it. Once it is cooked, it

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sits in the tanks for about three weeks, turning 10% of it into

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alcohol. Are potatoes suited to this? Do they have enough sugar to

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turn into alcohol? To make a cheap spirit, you should use wheat cereals

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because it makes it blind and simple but if you want a fine spirit, this

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is the handicap, you have do have all these tanks and tonnes of

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potatoes to make it. At this point, it is alcoholic mashed potato.

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Exactly, we want to strip the 10% alcohol out of the potato, boiling

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it again, alcohol is lighter than water so it rises to the top and it

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goes there and then the waterfall down with the mashed potato which

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goes to the cows and the compost. Lots of alcohol, what do we do with

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it? More alcohol and this is where the magic happens because this is

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where we polish it and turn it into the beautiful they could we finish

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up with. The magic happens in this, the tallest bubble column in

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Europe. Most vodka is distilled three times but William's goes

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through 50 distillations, turning from liquid to steam every time it

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hit a bubble plate. Just the finest alcohol is left which is dilutive in

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spring water to bring it down to 40% volume. Then some of the vodka goes

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on to be made into gin. Gin is the finishing touch because it is

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flavoured vodka, basically. We have a still and inside it, we marinade

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the Juniper 's, because if it you what to call it gin, it has to have

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Juniper 's. To make it sweet, you add orange peel or if you want it

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dry, you add lemon peel so playing with the botanicals finishes it off

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but it all comes back to the base quality.

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For your average gin, that base product is cereal grain. You start

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with 300 potatoes, what do you have at the end? We just have this,

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potatoes and vodka. I am impressed with that, it is race moves. Who

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would have thought potato juice could taste so good? Cheers. -- it

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is very smooth. Shall we try it out? You have be

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looking forward to this. It would be foolish not to. Cheers, Cheers.

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Potatoes, potatoes! This is all vodka. Mother of wholly moly. It is

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good! Smooth. While Angellica gets her voice back, Andy, you are in the

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middle... Sorry, what? Apparently we are in the middle of a show. You are

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in the middle of your change management tour. It is a show

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looking back over some of my life. It is not a biographical show but it

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is looking at social changes which have happened in my life through the

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medium of jokes and just looking at things which have changed and

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whether it is important or not I'm just having a good time. Would you

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say you genuinely like change? Know, like most people, I instinctively

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don't like change. But you haven't changed the way you write. You still

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use pencil and paper. Pencils are actually a very classy piece of

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technology. You never see anybody swearing at a pencil. If you're

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pencil breaks, you do not have to ring a pencil helpline. I am a

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comedy writer. Whether my script arrives at a certain time, no one

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will live or die by that. I am not an emergency service. That is how I

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grew up, writing on pencil. My typing speed is so slow, I could not

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fight at the speed I want to write at. So it is longhand? It is not

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just me, my collaborator on Outnumbered Guy Jenkin also uses

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pencil. We keep people in work because they have to try but our

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scripts! Is very special of Outnumbered in the offing? The plan

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there will be a special in the summer. Our hope is that every

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couple of years we will revisit the family and see how they are getting

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on. When kids grow up, parenting changes, but it does not stop. The

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relationships change. Like a comedy 7-Up? A bit like that. Let's remind

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ourselves just why you love them. Howard you decide who is Prime

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Minister? There is an election and people vote. Are there lots of

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people and they say, I have had a terrible life and my family has

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died... Does not work entirely like that, no.

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It would be good if it did! Is it true that even when a sitcom is not

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on television, do the characters still live in your head? Are used or

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thinking of stories and the directions you could take the

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characters? To be honest, I have loads of voices in my head. But

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luckily I am in a profession where I can tell that an advantage rather

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than being put into care. Maybe they live in some sort abstract

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dimension. But I don't wake up thinking I wonder what George will

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be doing today. Is it voices in your head who have told you to

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crowdfund? Crowdfunding a novel, yes. I found a brilliant publisher

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and they are called Unbound. It is a very 18th-century kind of notion.

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You reach out to people who would like to read the book, like fans,

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and you make them your patron and say, can you fund the book?

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Strangely, the novel has seen say, can you fund the book?

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Saint Kilda. Really? Yes, say, can you fund the book?

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have to pay? If you just want the book, it is ?10. There are various

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rewards. You will go to someone else's house for dinner you said.

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And eat their food. I am prepared to travel for two hours for free food!

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What about Saint Kilda? That might be a bit more. You are starting to

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price this like a mechanic. Saint Kilda, that will cost you!

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So, it is throwback Friday. Do you remember this song?

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# Put your hands on, put your hands on.

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# Put your hands on, put your hands on.

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It has got a good beat. Do you remember it? Know. As Carrie Grant

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has been finding out, the story behind the song is not as upbeat as

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you might expect. This is one of the most popular

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singalong party and festival tracks. Place Your Hands was a

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top ten hit for West Country rockers Reef in 1996. Despite being such an

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upbeat track, the song was written after Gary Stringer's grandfather's

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death. I was grieving and that is how it

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came out in that lyric. The band started work on their second album.

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With three top 40 hits to their name already, renowned American producer

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was drafted in to help take the band to the next level. He was a great

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producer, a great producer, division and the bigger thing that when you

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are young... When you in a band, it is sometimes hard to hear the

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structure and the arrangement. Someone like George with that

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knowledge and overview can say, try this, try that. What made you want

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to work with the band? I think they made a great noise. I think it was a

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matter of being brave, having an experiment, opening up a little bit

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more and instead of adding salt and pepper, maybe chilli powder or

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something like that. Extending the flavour palette of the music.

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With George's encouragement to try different styles, Place Your Hands

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started to take shape. He had a 60s Fender Jazz bass and it

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was so nice to play. I started playing this baseline, a bit of a

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Motown feel. I started singing it. It was quite mellow at first, take

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me down to the water... Totally different lyric?

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Totally different, yes. The band went on tour across the UK. One

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night, Gary had some bad news. One night on the road, unfortunately my

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grandfather Ken died. He passed away. My grandparents were amazing

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beautiful people in everywhere. We brought the tour bus down to their

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house. They just hang out one I went to see my families. I gave my Nan a

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cuddle and my mum and dad. He was the first real person I knew who

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passed away. That made an impact. I cried at the common one in four

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weeks after he died. I remember playing that album and welling up

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thinking about my grandad. The lyric that came out, place your hands on,

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it is just asking for a cuddle really.

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It is a gospel song. I know Gary says it is about the sad thing in

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his life, but I thought, why not turn it around and make a

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celebration out of it? With George adding his magic to the mix, the

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band's album Glow went to number one with Place Your Hands becoming a big

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hit. Now having taken a seven-year break from the band, Reef are back

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working with George and new guitarist Jesse Wood, son of Ronnie.

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Why Reef? I am a fan, I still am. It is about chemistry with bands. It is

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amazing. # Put your hands on, put your hands

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on. Having a song which is so anthemic,

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can it be a blessing or curse? I cannot see the curse at all.

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Everything came together, it felt good. The drums were pushing a

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different way. You could singalong. There was everything but the kitchen

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sink on the record also! Maybe people get wound up about

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singing these songs, I don't. Genuinely, hand on heart, I love

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singing that song. That is so lovely. Such a big song

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with a sweet story behind it. Carrie, thank you for that. You are

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here to tell us how we can get involved in this year's virtual

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choir. We launched on Wednesday. We want everyone to join in. Last year

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we had overcome all the faithful, this year we have got vintage pop so

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we have the Ronettes, Sleigh Ride. -- O come all the faithful.

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We have had some great entries already? We have, but mainly women.

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How do people get involved? You have to go to the One Show website. You

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have to have two devices, when you play the track on with headphones

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and one that you film yourself. You have two different lead vocals and

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three different harmony once. You choose the one you think you are

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best at. Are you getting all this, Andy? You sing along with the

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singer. You film yourself on your device, then you upload it and we

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have got your performance. It is so easy anybody could do it.

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Isn't that right, Patrick? # come on, it is lovely weather... I

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am thinking Michael B below. APPLAUSE

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Please don't let me be the only one in this year's virtual choir!

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Go to the website, please. You only have until midnight on Sunday the

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29th of November. We also have to talk about Adele at

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the BBC. It is on tonight at BBC One. I'm bursting. We did the

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behind-the-scenes film a couple of weeks ago. It was amazing. The new

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material is fantastic. She is funny, just down-to-earth.

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Let's have a look and listen at the exclusive clip. This is Adele with

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Someone Like You. Brilliant. That is on tonight at

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8:30pm. We had to say thank you to you, Andy. Thank you. Good luck with

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the tour. Matt and Alex will be back on Monday

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with Vernon Kay. Bye-bye! For the sad old earth

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must borrow its mirth,

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