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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

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Tonight, we are talking about name-changing. With Prince William

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touring Malta, Gyles explains why his passport could have read William

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Saxe-Coburg-Gotha instead of William Wales. Also, Alex Riley meets the

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one who wants a referendum on devolution for Manchester. Mike

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Dilger is doing this. Later, we find out why this concrete-lined urban

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river in the heart of London is the new home to one of Britain's most

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dazzling birds, the kingfisher. There is always a trolley in a

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river! We will shed more light on that later. What an eclectic mix we

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have on The One Show. Who better to make sense of it all than the man

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behind the sitcom family in Outnumbered, it is Andy Hamilton.

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Good to have you with us. Thank you. Welcome back. Thank you. Hello.

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Where are the kids? We have sold some of them! Oh right. Not really!

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As well as Outnumbered, you also wrote Drop The Dead Donkey. There's

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been this picture of Ed Balls playing football and elbowing

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somebody. We don't know whether it was on purpose or not. What would

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the guys at GlobeLink News make of that? We would have had a wonderful

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time with that on Drop The Dead Donkey. That is the full Vinnie

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Jones. Not only is he elbowing him in the face, he's also kneeing him

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in the posterior and that - I blame Tony Blair for this. I blame him for

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most stuff! He started this thing of politicians looking like they are

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athletes. Ed Balls does not look like a natural footballer. No. No.

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The lad said - it was Ed that said that Rob ran on to his elbow! How

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convenient! It was a mistimed tackle. Alright. It is an

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assassination! We will talk about your new film later. As the fall-out

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from last week's Scottish independence vote rumbles on

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tonight, Alex Riley finds out that referendum fever could be spreading.

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After the events of last week, Scotland will now stay in the UK.

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But it is going to have much more control over its own affairs. So,

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where does that leave the rest of us? There are two questions I want

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answered. Would England be better off as a separate country? As our

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neighbouring nations are trying to wrestle more power away from

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Westminster, why don't England's regions do it, too?

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Where better to explore that idea than the North of England. First

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stop, Sheffield. What are the prospects of devolution here?

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Very good according to Richard Carter. He leads a new party wanting

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a devolved Parliament for Yorkshire and reckons it would improve life

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for the people here. Take the train journey from Sheffield to

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Huddersfield. This train journey is through some lovely countryside. Why

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did you bring me on the train? It is an hour and 20 minutes to get 25

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miles from Sheffield to Huddersfield. Lines such as this are

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essential to connect our communities, but they suffer from

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massive lack of investment. The people of Yorkshire, we think they

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are better placed to decide how to spend the money. Isn't it going to

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be a massive amount of extra cash, setting up separate institutions and

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the money coming to the region will evaporate? You could get rid of up

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to 1,000 councillors and pay more professionalised ones more. From our

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point of view, you could get better decisions with more power, at a

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lower cost. If Richard gets his way, Huddersfield could be quite

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different. Seat of the new Parliament.

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Maybe this could be the financial powerhouse, the Bank of Yorkshire?

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The Ministry of Culture? It's not just Yorkshire.

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In Manchester, this man wants to shift power from Westminster to a

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Greater Manchester Assembly. What would Manchester do that it can't do

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now? If an area wanted to give tax breaks to businesses, it should be

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able so it can grow those industries so we can create jobs and

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opportunities for people. We also believe that Manchester should have

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powers for local income tax, so it could, for instance, offer a lower

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income tax than London. Manchester is, of course, a thriving city. Alex

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Salmond said if Scotland were independent, it would be the 20th

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wealthiest in the world, so how would the rest of us do if we opted

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to go it alone? What about England, if we decided to

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become independent, could we survive? England would survive fine.

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It would be London-dominated, but England is a wealthy nation. It

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would survive absolutely fine. What about Wales? Wales could survive as

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a nation. But no-one is pretending if Wales went it alone, it would be

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better off. What about Northern Ireland? The Northern Irish economy

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is too weak for Northern Ireland to survive without support from

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elsewhere. Do you think the Scottish referendum has unleashed a passion

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for devolution in the rest of the country? Devolution is a great idea,

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but think about the practicalities. That is where the problems start.

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The fact is that our major Northern urban cities don't raise that much

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money locally. People in the North are poorer than in the South. So it

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could increase inequality in England if you introduced devolution to the

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regions or to the cities. Enough of the experts. To see if the people of

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Manchester have caught a dose of referendum fever, we asked should

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Manchester be handed more power by Westminster.

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Do you think Manchester should get the same kind of powers devolved to

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it that Scotland are going to get? Definitely. Really? OK. Yes. Either

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Manchester or the Midlands, somewhere in the middle. Rather than

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all down South. A lot of people up North feel separated from London.

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England should. Not sure an individual city necessarily. I am

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pleased they will do something for the English. Time for the results

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from The One Show Ballot Box. For the noes - three. For the yeses -

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16. So a vast majority. This was a bit of fun. It does seem the

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Scottish referendum has got people interested in what powers should be

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delivered from Westminster and which powers could be devolved to their

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local areas. Well, it's got everybody thinking.

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Do you think regional devolution is a good idea? Not, I am sceptical

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about Regional Assemblies. How many layers of incompetences do we want?

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There seems to be this notion that local politicians, everyone says we

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are fed up with Westminster, but historically, local politicians have

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proved to be as every bit as corrupt and useless as Westminster

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politicians, so I am sceptical. Would you ever go into politics? I

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would be very bad. I'm basically a kind of - my inner dictator would

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come out. You don't want me in politics! There is a temptation

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there, I'm sensing? I would have to get somebody to vote for me! I don't

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think it is going to happen. OK. I'm open to offers! Stick to the

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directing! We will talk about the film in a minute. Time to find out

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exactly what Mike was doing on that shopping trolley. Oh yes.

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The kingfisher is one of Britain's most beautiful and spectacular

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birds. But they can only thrive on clean, healthy rivers with a good

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supply of fish to feed on. So you might be is surprised to find that

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recently they have been spotted on an urban waterway in the heart of

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South London. Over the last few months, this man

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has been watching and photographing these shy birds in the most unusual

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of spots. Is that a shopping trolley? Yes, the

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kingfisher has sussed out there was a huge shoal of stickleback and it

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perched on one of the wheels and it had the perfect view to catch a

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fish. These photographs have taken a lot of work. Yes. I grew up locally.

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I have been watching kingfishers on these urban rivers for years. And it

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took about six months of my time. This one is amazing. I have seen

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kingfishers in the countryside and they dig their own holes. Here, it's

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found a drainage pipe, in a concrete bridge? Yes, they have adapted to

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the man-made environment. All they need is a bit of concrete, a hole,

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and they can bring up a whole family. At first light, we head

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upstream to give ourselves the best chance of seeing them.

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In the 1980s, this river was essentially a drainage pipe,

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polluted by human waste and industrial run-off. Now, although on

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the surface it hardly looks pristine, the water quality and

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habitats have improved enormously, enough to bring back a healthy

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supply of fish and, in turn, a kingfisher.

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We cover ourselves in camo gear and get comfy. A kingfisher's territory

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can be three-miles-long. It may be a while before it visits this section

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of the river. After half an hour, it becomes

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apparent how rich and varied the birdlife is in this concrete river

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bed. The river's in fantastic condition.

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Yeah. Still, no sign of a kingfisher. That

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is until a flash of blue shoots straight past us.

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It was an enticing glimpse but the kingfisher wasn't hanging around. It

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was another three hours before our next visit.

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It's so exciting. A kingfisher on the branch, just

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over my left shoulder. Here it comes. Wow, look at that!

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The kingfisher is searching the water for fish. Nothing this time.

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But, as we sit there watching, this stunning bird works its way from

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perch to perch. Whether it's an iron pole, or a

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concrete wall, each location is a vantage point the kingfisher uses to

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spot fish. It is just gauging whether it can

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catch the fish or not, working out depths, angles. They can easily see

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movement through the water's glare. There he comes. It is diving for a

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fish. Got it! Yeah, yeah. Back up. It's got a fish. Yes. It's using the

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bar to stun it, so it can swallow it. And straight down the gullet.

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What a little jewel. Kingfishers have also been spotted on urban

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rivers in Leeds, Coventry and Manchester. This is crazy. That

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kingfisher is perching there metres away from people walking past to and

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from work, on their mobile phones, and they have no idea it is there.

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We do. What a wildlife team we have got on

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this show. Extreme camouflage! It all helps. Thomas dedicated six

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months of his life to get that photo. Mike gets it in an afternoon!

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Just remarkable. Andy, you have been spending a lot of time on location

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for your new film, in Scotland. You had a watery wildlife moment? On the

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last day, it was a very windy day, and one of our team - there's an

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area on the beach, and there was a baby seal huddling out of the wind.

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We didn't get it on camera. It went! There was a lot of wildlife -

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gannets - it was a very wild place. Well, you have legged it from the

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premiere, which is nice of you to come and sit with us. We are very

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honoured. We are. There's Billy, Rosamund Pike and David Tennant.

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Yes. Without giving away too much of what goes on in the film, give us an

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idea of the premise? It is a story of a family, a family that's

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experiencing real problems, the mum and dad, their marriage is very,

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very rocky. And there's a crisis, the grandfather in the family is

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very ill. They - it doesn't sound like a comedy, but it is! They have

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to go north to Scotland for a family gathering. Then various

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extraordinary things happen, which I can't tell you otherwise I would

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have to kill you! They end up being a global news story for reasons I

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won't go into. It is a social comedy. It is seen from the

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perspective of the three children, who, like many children in this

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country, are watching the beginnings of a divorce and are grappling with

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that. Let's have a little look at the family that you speak so highly

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of in action. As long as we're all agreed, when we

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get there, none of us mention it. I wasn't going to mention it anyway.

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It is boring! It is lying! It is not lying... It is not something. What

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if somebody says, are your mum and dad getting a divorce? You are not

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on The Jeremy Kyle Show! What is it about family interaction

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that you love so much? Well, you know, I write all this stuff with

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Guy Jenkin. We are a team. And I suppose we both feel... There is no

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big theme you cannot visit in the cockpit of the family. Everything

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happens in the family. And families are important. If we didn't have

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those, we would have to fight with strangers! That's true! They are...

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You know, that is pretty much... We will come from families so it is

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just the perfect arena for comic and dramatic exploration. And when you

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came on with the Outnumbered children, or the young adults now,

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you were saying you often let them ad-libbed and do a lot of that and

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just have a loose idea of the script. Is that how this worked as

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well? Well, it is with hard to describe when it is ad-libbing. We

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feed them stuff and tell them what the scene is about, what the

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sequence of lines is, and kids have great memories. We get what we ask

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for but they will say the lines in their own idiosyncratic versions.

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Sometimes we given situations and just give them a starting point and

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let them run and see what happens. You know, and then you get some

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fantastic, natural moments. We saw you had David Tennant on set and

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Billy Connolly. Who stole the show for you? I do not answer that! I am

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going back to the party! They were all fantastic. I mean, we were

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thrilled with everybody. A fantastic cast. We look forward to seeing it.

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So what we did on -- so, What We Did On Our Holiday is out on Friday. We

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went to the Edward Wilson School to find out if the children there

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wanted to confess to anything. Our contributors have been very brave

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for taking part in this, so, parents, who are no doubt watching

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right now, please go easy on them. I did. I ate at night once a big jar

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of jam! All of it! They were like, where is the jam? I was like... Oh,

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I don't know! Festival, when I went to my cousin and auntie's house with

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a newborn baby, I didn't ask her to pick the baby up but I picked him up

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and ran with him! I was in the deep blue sea and I killed a crab! Once,

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me and my cousin thought there was a cat and we thought it was dead and

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we shot a rock at it. My dad, you was sleeping. Then I coloured his

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legs with colouring pens. My little brother dead to -- dared me to draw

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on the cupboard. I went to the shops and bought some crisps. We were in

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this river and we had to swim in it and I just went to the deep end

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without asking my dad. APPLAUSE

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They are not in too much trouble! Anything you would like to confess

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to, Andy? As a child? No, I was a very pure child(!) I never did

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anything wrong! You did react strongly to one confession. Well,

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the lad who got into the swing pool without mentioning it to his dad. My

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son thought he had learned to swim and we were on holiday. I was

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sitting in the bar knocking back a cocktail and is very disapproving

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Frenchwoman produced my son dropping from head to foot, and I said, oh,

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my good. -- my God. She said she found him in the deep end. And my

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son said, the water wouldn't let me up! Aah! Now, have you ever, ever

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thought about changing your name? That is what we are talking about

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now. Gyles will be explaining the legal process if you wish to do so.

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But first he has been looking at the story of this country's first ever

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name change. I was born in Germany. I've always

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had a soft spot for the German way of life. But 100 years ago during

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the First World War, if you had a German background, you did

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everything you could to conceal it. In fact, one very famous family was

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so anxious to hide its German ancestry, it even changed its name.

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We know them as the windss. But a century ago, our Royal Family was

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known by a different name. Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. This was the

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dynastic name of Queen Victoria's German husband Albert. The name was

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passed on to their children and grandchildren. So, when in 1914 a

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war was declared on Germany, George V of the United Kingdom and British

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dominions had the somewhat unfortunate surname of

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Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Historian Miranda has been looking into the Royals and

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their German links. What was it like for Germans living at the time?

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Immediately after the war started, a great many Germans were put into

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camps, separated from their loved ones. It was really pleasant. And

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there was also a great upsurge. It is almost hysterical. An upsurge of

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anti-German feeling. But worse was to come. In May 1915, the British

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ocean liner Lusitania was torpedoed by a German U-boat and around 1200

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civilians died. When news of the tragedy reached Britain, there was a

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violent reaction. So in the aftermath of the sinking of the

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boat, what happened? Well, there was a day of rioting. Particularly in

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London. There were a lot of German bakeries and they were looted and

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their windows were broken. So it was very violent and very scary to be

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German at the time in England. And having a vaguely German name meant

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that you were somehow the enemy? Absolutely. Even if you had a Dax

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and, you were regarded as an patriotic or pro-German! --

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fashioned. It wasn't long before the British public even began to

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question the loyalty of their King, George V. It was a PR disaster. But

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then, real disaster struck. In May 1917, a new terror appeared in the

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skies over Britain. A freight of German bombers. Hundreds were

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killed. And the name of the aircraft? The same as the Royals'

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surname, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. But now was linked to the deaths of hundreds

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of Britons. The king decided something must be done. The Royal

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family and their advisors came up with a plan to save their

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reputation. OK, so this is the official announcement of what

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George's people decided to do. They decided to change his name. It is an

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impressive announcement. By the King, a proclamation. And not only

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do the announce that the family name is being changed to Windsor, but

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they also make it clear that all of the descendants of Queen Victoria

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will willing crush and discontinue the use of all German titles and

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dignities. -- will relinquish. They cannot with a total bunch of no

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hopers as names. They all sounded terribly German. George's private

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secretary came up with winds are purely because that was where the

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family had this very famous castle. -- Windsor. Overnight, the German

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links to the Royals disappeared. The British public embrace the change as

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a great act of loyalty to the nation by the monarch. The very British

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house of Windsor was born and nearly 100 years later, it is still going

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strong. The essence of grand Britain, in fact. God save the

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Windsors! Very interesting film, that, Gyles.

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Thank you very much! I did not mean it like that! The thing is, this

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will have inspired a lot of people who are eating their tea to think,

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firstly, I could do with a new name. Because -- so is it easy? It is as

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easy as pie and you could even be called "as easy as pie" tomorrow

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morning! Or you need to do is go to the deed poll. You have to make out

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a form saying I am changing my name from this to that, get it witnessed,

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and that is how you change your name, so long as you are not doing

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it for the forest purposes or trying to deceive somebody. You can go to

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the ministry of justice to their website and they will give you forms

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to do it. But you can actually make out a simple form, a deed poll, like

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this, a simple document, which you have to get witnessed... Do you have

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my name on there?! Yes! I thought I might change your name, if you don't

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mind! We have a new name for you. All you need to do is sign that, get

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it witnessed and you have a new name! John Craven junior! I haven't

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signed this! But you can sign it if you want. I have done one for you,

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Alex. There you are. All you need to do... You could be called this! And

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people do change their names. About 100,000 people yet change their

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names. Last year, 200 people enjoyed changing their name to Danger. They

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put that word into their name. All of these people have changed their

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names. These guys are called Andrew Drum And Bass Johnson, the second is

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called None Of The Above. Let's work out who is called what. The first

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one? With the real Andrew step forward? Yes! My name was Andrew

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Williams Johnson. It is now Andrew Drum And Bass Johnson, and it is

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because I am a DJ. Next we are going to have None Of The Above. The other

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one was going to be Pop Man. A or C? A. A. Step forward, please, the real

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None Of The Above. Oh! What a game this is! Why did you change a name?

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My name was Adam Osan and now the name adds a message to it. You,

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clever guy. So now he is Pop. I am a student radio presenter and it was

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an on-air challenge before I graduated to play every single

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number one UK hits since records began. So you were called Pop Man

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and now it is changed back? That is the point, you can change name and

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then back again. I did it to get on The One Show! I love mine, thank

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you. Thank you, Gyles. Thank you so much for coming in. There we are.

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That is it for tonight. Thank you so much to all of you. What We Did On

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Our Holiday is released in cinemas from Friday. Tomorrow we are joined

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by hot-headed chef Gordon Ramsay and we will be making him cook with a

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massive onion! So there will be tears! Good night!

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