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On the review show tonight. In Flight, Denel Washington plays a

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pilot with troubles at home and in the air. This is SouthJet 227, we

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are in an uncontrolled dive, we have a jammed stabliser or

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something. Tricks of the light fantastic in a dazzling show at the

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Hayward Gallery. Three friends remember old times in a starry

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Pinter revival. You talk of me as if I were dead. No. And London

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swings, in Stephen Poliakoff's most ambitious drama to date, Dancing On

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The Edge. # The dead of night

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# Express Dancing around with me tonight are

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the journalist, Miranda Sawyer, the novelist Dreda Say Mitchell, and

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the art critic of the Independent, pilgpilgpilg. Whether it is Marty

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McFly driving around in a Dell lorian, Robert Zemeckis's

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characters are in extraordinary situation, his new movie Flight,

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starring Denel Washington is no exception.

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What's your son's name Trevor. "I love you Trevor" Blackbox.

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love you Trevor, mommy loves you. OK, I have got control. Speedbrakes.

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Ahhhhhh. Margaret, power. Gear up. Denel Washington has won a Best

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Actor Oscar in each of the past two decades, for Training Day, and

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Glory. Now, he's up for a third, as Captain Whip Whitaker in Flight.

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Good morning. Good morning. souls on board. Get them tucked in,

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we are ready to push. Whitaker is an experienced airline

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pilot, who courageously deals with a disastrous mechanical failure at

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30,000-feet. Despite his heroics, he faces a thorough investigation

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into what happened, which threatens to expose him as an alcoholic and

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drug user. I have known you 11 years Whip. Right. You going to

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tell me you and Trina went to dinner and had two glasses of wine,

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sounds like a nice restaurant, which one was that. You have to say

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it was an ordinary day, it was an ordinary day, Margaret, you know me,

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I was in shape to fly. You have a problem saying that? Washington is

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joined on Korean by British actress, Kelly Reilly, who plays the love

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interest, and by John Goodman, who plays the closest thing Whitaker

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has to a friend, drug dealer, Harling. You are a hero man, you

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will never pay for a drink as long as you live. Zemeckis's films have

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generated estimated �4 billion over his career, his most recent movies

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have majored on motion capture technology.

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But can the more serious adult drama of Flight deliver the

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critical success Zemeckis seems to be hoping for.

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Apparently Denel Washington spend spent days, if not weeks in a

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flight simulator, did you really feel he could fly that plane?

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yes, it is interesting, that sequence when the plane flips

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upsidedown is absolutely great. But at the same time, I must admit, I

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couldn't get rid of scenes from Aeroplane in my mind at the same

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time. It is a really interesting film. And it is an uneven film,

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what they need to decide, it is a character study, but which road are

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they going down, is it about him being an alcoholic, or are they

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actually trying toe look at the character flaws that make him an --

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trying to look at the character flaws that make him an alcoholic.

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There were laugh-out-loud moments, when you put the oxygen mask on his

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face, did you like you didn't know what it was going to be? I thought

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the effort to be ambivalent was so powerful, Denel Washington is

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played as this kind of hero and anti-hero at the same time, he gets

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on the plane at the beginning and he's high on coke and all the rest

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of it. But what I thought would have been much more interesting is

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if they had suggested that maybe he wouldn't have saved so many people

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on the plane if he hadn't actually been high and drunk. Because if he

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had been in withdrawal as an addict, that might have made him

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malfunction and kill everybody. There was an interesting idea,

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there is another point in the film where drugs are not necessarily

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seen to be bad, the idea was he was able to get his way through that?

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thought that, as a flowback to that in the film were he's about to

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prepare himself for the investigation, the final jury, he

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gets trashed, and the only way he can straighten himself out is

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invite his drug dealer mailt around to take coke in the situation. That

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is quite interesting. Given the film, essentially, is an

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alcoholic's road to redemption, to flip that, and say it is

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interesting, he will go through this out of his mind but in control.

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It doesn't quite happen, I have to say. There was a film by -- it was

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a film by AA? It was very AA. was a film about AA. For me, that

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was the problem. I won't say the ending, but we ended up with a film

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that could sit nicely on a True Movie channel, if you stop being an

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alcoholic this can be what happened to your life. Rather than, is it

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the alcohol we are talking about, or the character flaws in him that

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make him take the alcohol, that is a different picture. I wanted the

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darker picture with the more unambiguous, unpredictable ending,

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rather than the ending I got. whole thing about LA is the

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obsession with addiction any way, came through clearly. One of the

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funny points about the film, what a beautiful addict is Kelly Reilly!

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thought her character was really odd, actually, she's great in it,

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absolutely brilliant. I have to say the start of this film is terrific,

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because not only do you get this amazing kind of crash scene, you

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also get her story, which is in -- incredibly dramatic as well. It is

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really exciting and then goes another way. But you could have had

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the whole film without her in it. To be honest, she was not that

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important. She was very pretty, but her story went nowhere. And her

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story went nowhere actually because she got clean. That was what I

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thought was quite interesting. When you watch films, you don't really

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want a story of somebody getting clean. I think AA does absolutely

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fantastic work, it is a fantastic thing, but that is not actually

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what we want to watch. Actually what we want to watch is addicts

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going slightly nuts, and what happens. And the drug dealers, good

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God God, we will see him later on, he -- John Goodman, we will see him

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later on, he does a great job, accompanied the Stones music every

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time? Every time he comes on he is accompanied by Sympathy For the

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Devil, here he comes, offering you all these things, I thought he was

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overplayed. There is a tremenduously controlled scene, and

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Don Cheadle plays the barrister trying to get him out of trouble.

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When I first met you I couldn't believe what a drunk, arrogant

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scumbag you were. Oh really, thank you. But I did the research Captain

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Whitaker, and the expert analysis, and I'm in awe of what you did. The

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FAA and the NTSB, took ten pilots, placed them in simulator, recreated

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the events that led to this plane falling out of the sky. Do you know

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how many of them were able to safely land the plane? Not one.

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Every pilot crashed the aircraft, killed everyone on board, you were

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the only one who could do it. of the best performances I thought

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was from him? Don Cheadle is a superb actor. He's one of those

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actors who doesn't take the lead, but keeps films going. One of the

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other things. One of the other things I found really great about

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this, is picking up on what Miranda said about Sympathy for the Devil,

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is the soundtrack. I hated it. thought it was great, the Bill

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Withers song, Ain't No Sunshine When She Comes, and the "I know, I

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know" and you have him clearing things out to that refrain. What is

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this film for? It is a good question, going back to what you

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said about the devil, it was interesting about how the language

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of addiction, denial and redemption overlaps with the language of

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Christianity, there is a fall in the beginning, you see lots of

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people in the field praying. language of "act of God", that is

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an insurance phrase. All the way through there is this qaisy

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philosophical theme of free will versus...That Is an AA approach,

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given there is a very pivitol point where the co-pilot says to Denel

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Washington, after the crash, that maybe this was all actually to save

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him, to save this great, like you say, this Jesus kind of character,

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to turn his life around. That actually, in order for him to turn

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his life around he has to crash a plane, everything has to go down.

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Six people have to die? Just to turn his life around. Denel

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Washington, this is not a film that has been Garlanded with lots of

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Oscar nominations, but Denel Washington has one. What chance has

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he got? -- Pretty good, with Training Day and Glory who could

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forget that performance, this film was great, but I could easily

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forget his performance. See for yourself, Flight lands in a cinema

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near you today. The last time the review show visited lon does's

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Hayward Gallery was to see a collection of invisible art. We

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return for a more tangible collection, but only just. This

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contains flashing imagery. And loits.

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The first appraisal in the UK of light art opened in the Haywards

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galley. There are free standing structures, projections and free

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standing environments. Recreating some installations that haven't

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been seen for decades, the exhibition showcases some of the

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pee nearing works of this art -- pioneering works of this art form,

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including Dan Flavin's early works and Nancy Holt's elegant holes of

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light. As you enter the exhibition, you

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are greeted by a Leo Villareal's Cylindar II, constructed from

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almost 20,000 individual lights, performing sequences, that change

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from pulsating clouds, to swarms of fire flies. The know presents works

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on all scales, some crafted from the simplest of material, some

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harnessing technology to create sophisticated illusions.

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In the more immerseive pieces, viewers become part of the art

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themselves. The Chilean artist, Ivan Navarro's piece, Reality Show,

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even puts the spectator in a class case of their own. Other pieces

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take advantage of the nature of perception to manipulate our ways

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of seeing. There is a combination of flowing water and strobe

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lighting to create an ice-like landscape in a model for a timeless

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garden. So is this an exhibition which you

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can quickly switch off, or will visitors experience ghost images

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long after they leave. Zoe, it was interesting, at the

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beginning of the exhibition it said, that vision is the most unreliable

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of our senses. Did you doubt your eyes, did you think you were seeing

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things not knowing you were seeing what you thought was in front of

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you? Yeah, I think the curator of this exhibition calls light as a

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medium which the artists work in, and immaterial, material, there is

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that sense of the intanningability of light, but at the same time, the

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experiences you are having, in the different installations is so

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powerful and all consuming, you saw the last piece in the exhibition

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there, Model for a Timeless Garden, and there is the strobe light. The

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warnings for the strobe light aren't very visible, it is a real

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shock to the system, I found. You see the waterfalls, there are 27

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waterfalls unthe strobe. They look like strange frozen spiders, almost

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coming towards you. I could only spend 30 seconds in there and I had

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to leave. That is fantastic about the exhibition. There is one you go

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in, you have to take your hand along the right-hand side of the

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wall, move around and sit on a bench, and you look at something,

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which can only be described as being in the middle of a Rothko

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painting, the red absorbs you? There is aspects to the show that

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is really fantastic. It is interesting to be in a show where

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you are actually invited to look at something beautiful. That is a

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fantastic example. You are invited to be in a environment that is

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entirely beautiful. But having said that, I think a lot of the problem

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I had with this show, I have seen a lot of this before, and in fancy

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light showrooms, you go in and see a big chandelier and it is a bit

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like that. I have seen it at concerts. Idea that you are part of

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the show walking through a laser, and, really. There is one where

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there is a bit of dry ice. So, the problem I had with it, on occasion,

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was when it is really beautiful and it really struck me as in the piece

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you mentioned, that is fine. When it is just pretty I wanted

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something more. That is why I enjoyed the Jenny Hollser which has

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other meanings, I found that more interesting. The Navarro, the idea

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of going into that room and looking down was about Chile, wasn't it, it

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was about repression? It was, it is interesting, I will pick up on what

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Miranda said about the pretty. For me with this light show, there was

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some light, and I thought it is the one with the flurres sant light,

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the Dan Flavin work, I accident like it t I asked myself why I

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didn't. I -- I didn't like it, I asked meself why, because it

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reminded me of the 1970s where times were bad. I think that is

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what he wants. Where as The Village People, the cubicle two, with all

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the glitter, I think glitter is underrated in art, it is seen as a

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trivial material, that brought back great memories of the 70s, and the

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older women in my family stepping out, blinged up to the eye liner

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and looking really great. It was interesting. For me, I kind of

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immersed myself, it was an imminent response. There was one we couldn't

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actually show, the Turrell, and also Katie Patterson's, one of the

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best ones, the little room. It was exactly as moonlight would be. I

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thought that had an enormous poetry to it? I love Katie Patterson's

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work. She's worked with engineers on that piece to create this

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lightbulb, as you say, that simulates moonlight, from a

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combination of earth light, starlight and moonlight. What is

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generally really interesting about her work, is while earlier artists,

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maybe like Dan Flavin, were really excited by the possibilities of

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working with electric light, younger artists like Katie, who is

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about 30, 31, are more interested in, and kind of looking back to a

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time when light pollution hadn't blotted out these natural,

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beautiful phenomena, like the moon. But then she is using technology to

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get that natural original effect. Sometimes I think that's why it is

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hard to summerise this exhibition, essentially -- summerise this

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exhibition, you have it all being about different things in terms of

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artists. Things will hit people and other times missing with people.

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Just because they all use art, doesn't mean they are trying to

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produce the same thing. It is interesting to gather them together

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n the concrete environment of the Hayward. It does show you a kind of

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aesthetic that you have actually really universally, in today's

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society, can you go to bars and they look like that, and they wink

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at you in the same way. I think that is quite interesting to gather

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it there and think, actually, even if you don't to relate to the art,

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it has given awe general contemporary aesthetic that was

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completely dominant. If you were to go to the Olympic Opening Ceremony,

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the light shows that lighting engineers put on are art? They are,

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and that was the bit where it failed for me. Just because of that.

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Because I'm so familiar with some of the techniques that are used. If

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you spend a whole morning in there, as I did, and you are prone to

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migraine, it gets really tiring. It is quite hard work on the eyes in

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the end. I quite liked, there were some that I had to come out had, I

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certainly had to come out of the one you did. But the Doug Wheeler,

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no sharp edges in the room, but the idea of it was untitled and

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saturated, you looked and you thought your vision was changing

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and the middle of getting darker. I loved the fact our eyes were

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changing every second we watched that? That is an incredible piece

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that. I walked up to it and couldn't work it out at all. That

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is what is interesting, partly, about vision itself. That you are

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filling, your eyes don't see properly, they are filling in

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things all the time, they are lying to you all the time. For you to go

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in and out of those pieces, the more enveloping pieces was an

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interesting experience. You would say you need a break occasionally.

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Get your light sabres out, it is there until the end of April.

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Two years ago the London comedy theatre was renamed the Harold

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Pinter Theatre, in honour of a man whose plays often appeared there.

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In this new production of Old Times, directed by Ian Rickson, Kirsten

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Scott Thomas and Lia Williams alternate the female roles of Kate

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and her friend Anna. Rufus Sewell plays the possessive husband,

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Deeley. Pinter explores the way we make and sometimes subconsciously

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remake our memories in the context of our triangular relationship

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between a married couple and the wife's best friend. Some time later

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in the night I woke and looked across the room and saw two shapes.

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Did he come back? He was lying across her lap, on her bed. A man,

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in the dark, lying across, my wife's lap. But then in the early

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morning, he had gone. Thank Christ for that. It was as if he had never

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been. Of course he had been, he went to us and came once. Scott

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Thomas's last stage role was in Pinter's Betrayal, also directed by

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Ian Rickson, and Lia Williams is a seasoned Pinter performer too. But

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this is the first time that actresses have alternated roles of

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Anna and Kate in the West End. is interesting about playing both

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parts is you have extra layers of knowledge about who these

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characters are. Because there are things that I have seen in Kate

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when Lia is playing Kate, that I hadn't, I thought I hadn't thought

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about that, I integrated it into my performance. You talk of me as if I

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were dead. No, no you weren't dead. You were so lively, you were so

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animated, you used to laugh. course you did, I made you smile

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myself, walking down the street together, holding hands, you smiled

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fit to burst. She could be so animated. Animated is not the word

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for it, when she smiled, I can't describe it. Her eyes lit up.

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Couldn't have put it better myself. Miranda it is pretty darned

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enterprising to change them around so everybody has to see the play

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twice. But as has it enriched your understanding of the play and

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enjoyment of it? It did. I went to see not the way round we have seen

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there, the first time round, I really enjoyed t it was quite a

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strange experience, I preferred it with the way we have just seen now,

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with Kirsten Scott Thomas as Anna, as the interloper. The difference

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is quite interesting, it is a lot stronger the second time round,

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there is a lot more anger, it is very brittle. The performance, I

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have to say, are pretty terrific, throughout, whatever way you get it

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they are pretty terrific. The only thing I would say, the direction is

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great, I thought the play didn't come out that well, I have to say.

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The only way that I could really enjoy it the second time round, was

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when I thought of it in a different way. So I thought actually, what

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Anna was, was what Kate could have become. She didn't exist, she had

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come in, and she was showcasing everything he could have been. You

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could have been this fantastic person but you went off with this

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man who squashed you down. From the audience's point of view, you might

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have had a different response if you had seen it the other way round

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first? You really might have done. The other thing that does is

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emphasise the interchangability of the women, for the man. So when

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they first meet, you have no idea which one he is fall anything love

:22:51.:22:55.

with. Do you think, though, that the character Rufus Sewell's

:22:55.:22:59.

character changes, do you see a change in him in the two

:22:59.:23:04.

performances? I didn't particularly, I think his manic energy really,

:23:04.:23:08.

really works, maybe that was upped slightly in the second, when

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Kirsten Scott Thomas was playing Anna. I think they had a much

:23:11.:23:15.

greater sexual chemistry, so the scenes where they are talking about

:23:15.:23:21.

the bath, and washing the wife, and she's the invisible catalyst for

:23:21.:23:25.

their foreplay. I think there was much more of a genuine tension

:23:25.:23:30.

between him and Kirsten Scott Thomas. Throughout these themes,

:23:30.:23:35.

how Harold Pinter came back to many times, which is memory, rembering,

:23:35.:23:40.

false memory, among memories on purpose. You never knew. I thought

:23:41.:23:46.

that was one of the best things about it, you never knew whom who

:23:46.:23:50.

was playing games with whom? This is an interesting play, if you

:23:50.:23:53.

think about Harold Pinter's life back in 1971, it is incredibly

:23:53.:23:57.

turbulent. I think the main character in this is the husband,

:23:57.:24:03.

Deeley. It is interesting in the programme, there is an extract from

:24:03.:24:08.

Antonia Fraser, Harold Pinter's wife, it says he said to her, it is

:24:08.:24:11.

a play where Deeley is a man defeated by women. What I did

:24:11.:24:15.

notice for me, there was a real difference in the performance. When

:24:15.:24:20.

Kirsten Scott Thomas sexed it up, as Anna, there is such a kind of

:24:20.:24:25.

chemistry between her and Deeley. So I think he stops being giggley

:24:25.:24:29.

and stumbling as I saw him in the first performance. In the second

:24:29.:24:32.

one he's a desperate man, that is what you need to see is that

:24:32.:24:41.

desperation, a man defeated by women. That triangle was visited in

:24:41.:24:44.

Betrayal, but it is powerful. It is also vicious, it was one of the

:24:44.:24:48.

reviews I read talked about the fact that you take away the other

:24:48.:24:51.

stuff away and you are left with bullying? And anger, so much anger

:24:51.:24:55.

in the second one. That weird element that, I think, we haven't

:24:56.:24:59.

mentioned Lia Williams, she has a very strange energy, which I

:24:59.:25:04.

actually think is really interesting. When she plays Kate,

:25:04.:25:10.

show's like a child being argued over by divorced parents. It is a

:25:10.:25:13.

very interesting element. What is so interesting is the shift in that,

:25:13.:25:19.

is the language is the same in both, the language is very Pinteresque.

:25:19.:25:22.

They move slightly different, they are slightly doing the same thing,

:25:22.:25:26.

in one performance somebody ends up on the floor, in the other

:25:26.:25:29.

performance they don't. They do move very differently. I think the

:25:29.:25:38.

sceney is very good. That is hilder Gard Bretler. Just the way the

:25:38.:25:41.

furniture is positioned, it gives distance between the character.

:25:41.:25:46.

saturated colours of it, they were depressing n a way. It has that

:25:46.:25:56.
:25:56.:25:58.

weird, you know that play where Hell is other People, the Satre.

:25:58.:26:02.

You only exist as other people see you or remember you, who are you

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within this kind of triangle. And that, I found, very interesting. I

:26:07.:26:11.

think if you imagine, if you imagine Anna as all the dreams that

:26:11.:26:16.

got away t becomes more interesting. Sticking with the language point,

:26:17.:26:21.

when Pinter says himself, ordeal deal says himself, that you used

:26:21.:26:27.

the word "lest" I haven't heard that word used for years. It is in

:26:27.:26:30.

another line. It is playing with language. Pinter is all about the

:26:30.:26:34.

text and language. This is the problem, if the performances don't

:26:34.:26:38.

work out, they are not going to work out. I think Pinter can be

:26:38.:26:42.

very unforgiving for actor. So for me, the second time round, within

:26:42.:26:45.

I'm listening to it, I heard so much more of the performance,

:26:45.:26:48.

didn't you just? Than the timing, it worked for me. It is three

:26:48.:26:52.

people in a room talking for 80 minutes, it doesn't feel like it,

:26:52.:26:55.

but that is what it is. It is extraordinary, when Kirsten Scott

:26:55.:26:59.

Thomas undergoes the transformation with the wig, and how she becomes

:26:59.:27:05.

funny. I have never seen her in that kind of comic role, she's very

:27:05.:27:11.

good at the enuit of the board, the housewife, she was really funny,

:27:11.:27:14.

picking out the way they talk about, when she gives the speech and she's

:27:14.:27:19.

enjoying the fact in the past that her and her girlfriend had their

:27:19.:27:24.

own sandwiches. It is just utterly bizarre. Her body language is

:27:24.:27:28.

betraying what she's actually saying, which is quite mundane, but

:27:28.:27:34.

she's talking about, rembering a one-night stand. It is highly

:27:34.:27:37.

sexualised. There is a really interesting part, when there is a

:27:38.:27:42.

line, "you are nearly 40", the first performance it sound like an

:27:42.:27:47.

insult and all the audience laughed. The second performance, it is

:27:47.:27:50.

stunning, it is electricity, just that one line. Old Times runs at

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the Harold Pinter Theatre until the 6th of April. Go once or twice.

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For many, the 1930s Britain image conjures up country houses, the

:28:01.:28:04.

country struggling through tough economic times, we see little of

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this in Stephen Poliakoff's new BBC Two series, Dancing On The Edge.

:28:07.:28:11.

Set in London this five-part drama, draws on the relatively unknown

:28:11.:28:15.

stories of the black, mostly American jazz musicians, who

:28:15.:28:20.

company turd the attention of the high society crowd, with their --

:28:20.:28:23.

captured the attention of the high society crowd with their

:28:23.:28:30.

intoxicating new sounds. The story focuses upon the rise to

:28:30.:28:36.

fame of the Louis Lester Band. Chiwetel Ejiofor plays the quietly

:28:36.:28:43.

confident Londoner, Louis, and there is the journalist Stanley,

:28:43.:28:48.

who promotes the band in his magazine Music Express. The band

:28:48.:28:53.

shook the room with their intensity, and showed the music could appeal

:28:53.:28:57.

to a larger audience than it presently enjoys. You are home-

:28:58.:29:02.

grown I was born here. He has lost his birth certificate. It has gone

:29:02.:29:06.

missing, I need to find it. Dancing On The Edge is an ensemble piece.

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Along said the suave Antony Head, John Goodman plays the enigmatic Mr

:29:12.:29:20.

Masterson, and Mer Smith the hotel owner, Mr Schlesinger. I met Albert

:29:20.:29:23.

yesterday, he could absolutely not believe that I had coloured

:29:23.:29:27.

musicians staying in this hotel. Just down the road at the Savoy

:29:27.:29:31.

Theatre, people are walking out of Othello even as we speak, because

:29:31.:29:35.

of the coloured actor, Robeson, is kissing his Desdemona.

:29:35.:29:39.

Poliakoff wrote and directed the whole series, which runs to six

:29:39.:29:43.

hours. A commission that's relatively unheard of in British

:29:43.:29:48.

television. Set in an age when racist attitudes would have been

:29:48.:29:51.

the norm, the series explores the unlikely relationships formed

:29:51.:29:56.

between black jazz musicians and the aristocracy in 1930s Britain,

:29:56.:29:59.

revealing a progressive attitude that was perhaps ahead of its time.

:29:59.:30:05.

# Wind blows round the steeple # Mm empty world and sleepy people

:30:05.:30:08.

# I lie awake. Dancing On The Edge is a period

:30:08.:30:12.

drama that tackles an extraordinary time of change in British history,

:30:12.:30:16.

do its themes of economic depression, immigration and an

:30:16.:30:21.

obsessive celebrity culture, still resonate today.

:30:21.:30:24.

# The dead of night # Express

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It has all things that Poliakoff loves, it is 1930s, country houses,

:30:34.:30:37.

aristocrats, trains. Does he lose them in the right way? The last

:30:37.:30:42.

thing I saw of Poliakoff was a play that Tracey Ullman was in, I

:30:42.:30:46.

thought it was a drama school student had written it. This is

:30:46.:30:50.

great, it is really seductive. All the way that you want this

:30:50.:30:54.

television to be. So everybody's really good looking, the clothes

:30:54.:30:58.

are absolutely gorgeous, the music is really great. It takes you on a

:30:58.:31:01.

slow journey, but quite an interesting one. It is an

:31:01.:31:05.

interesting time in English his treatment one of the things I

:31:05.:31:09.

thought was really lovely at the beginning, is you associate jazz

:31:09.:31:14.

with America, of course, especially black jazz. To have it taken over

:31:14.:31:20.

and put in aristocrats house, it is perfect television. I completely

:31:20.:31:24.

disagree, I absolutely hated this. I would have turned it off after 30

:31:24.:31:29.

seconds if I hadn't been reviewing it. I just found, I don't know, I

:31:29.:31:38.

find the sort of fetishisation of this old image of the aristocracy

:31:38.:31:43.

that they are privilegesed and maybe lazy but they are glamorous,

:31:43.:31:46.

who cares. I find that difficult to stomach. What is interesting about

:31:46.:31:53.

it, is that there's an element where that is undermined. So there

:31:53.:31:58.

is couple of scenes, where what you get is these posh aristocrats

:31:58.:32:01.

saying they are really liberal, I don't know if you have noticed we

:32:01.:32:04.

are really liberal because we love you, out there, there are lots of

:32:04.:32:08.

people out there that aren't like us. I think that is resonant, very

:32:08.:32:12.

true in society today, that you have that. It is interesting, I

:32:12.:32:15.

think I'm a bit in the middle here. I was really interested in

:32:15.:32:20.

Poliakoff doing this, because I think it is such an interesting

:32:20.:32:23.

period. It is interesting because it is this notion of jazz coming

:32:23.:32:28.

from America. If I'm not wrong here, I think they will have based the

:32:29.:32:33.

life on The Edge Of Love character on Leslie Hutchinson, Hutch, from

:32:33.:32:37.

Grenada in the Caribbean. I think one of the things that's missing

:32:37.:32:41.

for me, I'm like Miranda, I love it, but I'm wondering about the

:32:41.:32:44.

musicians, they file like they are just musicians at the moment, and

:32:44.:32:48.

reacting to other people. Are they going to become fuller people. Will

:32:48.:32:58.
:32:58.:32:58.

we find more about their back story, really? Obviously the women Angel

:32:58.:33:02.

and Wuummi, are featured, but the rest of the band, they are there.

:33:02.:33:07.

They are like instruments. And you can fairly say that none of the

:33:07.:33:12.

white characters are unexplored, at all? Not really. So I'm interested

:33:12.:33:16.

about that. I'm interested in the whole thing about in drama, in

:33:16.:33:20.

British drama and tele, why have we so many black actors fleeing this

:33:21.:33:24.

and going over to the states, because, I think, they get real

:33:24.:33:28.

parts. This is great this drama, but once again it is about using

:33:28.:33:34.

black actors to explore ethnicity and "race". It is interesting if

:33:34.:33:38.

you compare it with Flight were it is unmentioned. You didn't notice

:33:38.:33:42.

who was black and who was white. This is the nature of the story

:33:42.:33:46.

isn't it. The central performance of Chiwetel Ejiofor is

:33:46.:33:50.

extraordinary, and Poliakoff knows how stunning his performance is,

:33:50.:33:55.

and he holds these images of him beautifully? I have to say, even if

:33:55.:33:59.

you're not interested in this story, to be honest, if you are a straight

:33:59.:34:03.

woman you are fine, you have two really hot leads, being hot. And

:34:04.:34:07.

speaking as a journalist, and particularly a music journal is,

:34:07.:34:15.

you have a music journalist being really cool. This never happens!

:34:15.:34:19.

Racism is threaded throughout the performance. Here is Chiwetel

:34:19.:34:22.

Ejiofor talking about what actually happened. You can imagine this

:34:22.:34:26.

absolutely did happen. You must have had to deal with a lot of

:34:26.:34:29.

prejudiced people. Of course, yes, and you never know where it is

:34:29.:34:33.

going to come from either. Sometimes it is the people you

:34:33.:34:37.

don't expect. I remember bumping into a table when I was coming off

:34:37.:34:43.

the stage and the couple nearest to me, the lady was covered in jewels,

:34:43.:34:49.

but she was very young, charming looking, and both of them, this

:34:49.:34:53.

couple started wiping their cuttlery, with their nip kins, even

:34:53.:35:00.

though I wasn't anywhere -- napkins, even though I wasn't anywhere near

:35:00.:35:04.

them, and they changed them just to be sure. That is very revealing.

:35:04.:35:09.

Very simply done, very low-key. was a soapbox moment for me.

:35:09.:35:12.

Soapbox, all of a sudden I thought what's happening to this drama, and

:35:12.:35:16.

then after that you get Antony Head talking, and goes into this big

:35:16.:35:21.

long speech about racism. And I thought, stop, stop. It is just not

:35:21.:35:27.

there. The problem with it is the musicians are too deferential, they

:35:27.:35:30.

are too grateful for this royal and aristocratic patronage, I know

:35:30.:35:34.

maybe this will change as the series progresses, we have only

:35:34.:35:39.

watched the first two episodes. But I would have loved there to be some

:35:39.:35:45.

tension in their acceptance. There was, but. What is interesting with

:35:45.:35:49.

that, there is still an ambiguity about whether the guy who wants to

:35:50.:35:53.

be the patron did try to find his birth certificate. He wanted him

:35:54.:35:58.

away. He had no trouble in actually dismissing him. The scene we have

:35:58.:36:02.

seen I agree is soapboxy, the reason is works actually the acting.

:36:02.:36:07.

There is a kind of layer that is given by these great actors, that

:36:07.:36:09.

are basically saying this is soapboxy, but actually you can tell

:36:09.:36:14.

this man is going to let them down, lock at him, he will let them down,

:36:14.:36:17.

he's being really liberal and you are great being my lovely friend.

:36:17.:36:22.

You know later on he will walk off and do something else. In terms of

:36:22.:36:31.

performances, singing, phenomenal. I thought so. Angel Coulby.

:36:31.:36:35.

disagree, I love that kind of music and music of that period. In order

:36:35.:36:40.

to believe in the hype around this band, the music had to be

:36:40.:36:45.

completely outstanding. And I just don't think, I thought it changed

:36:45.:36:49.

into muzak. I think there were really good performances in it.

:36:49.:36:56.

thought she was great, Angel. of the young women. And Wummi as

:36:57.:37:03.

well. Wasn't it great to see a whom who looked like a woman on screen.

:37:03.:37:08.

Let's have more women like that. What Poliakoff manages to do so

:37:08.:37:10.

brilliantly is location, lovely country houses, and the look of the

:37:10.:37:15.

thing. It looked like something you wanted to watch but not Downton

:37:15.:37:18.

Abbey? It is interesting to compare it with Downton Abbey, the

:37:19.:37:24.

relationships between the servants and masters were really

:37:24.:37:26.

contemporary, everybody was really nice to each other. They really

:37:26.:37:29.

were liberals in a way, they possibly wouldn't have been, they

:37:29.:37:34.

definitely wouldn't have been at the time. I think maybe I'm just

:37:34.:37:38.

incredibly excited because I'm seeing a Poliakoff that I enjoy. I

:37:38.:37:43.

hope that what will happen is these relationships, that seem so liberal,

:37:43.:37:47.

and so great, are going to be shattered, particularly by the fact

:37:47.:37:51.

that the war is coming, and they think fascism is on the rise, that

:37:51.:37:55.

something will happen to shatter this, and it won't be what we think.

:37:55.:37:59.

I sincerely hope so, Dancing On The Edge starts on BBC Two Monday night.

:37:59.:38:04.

Try to catch it. The desire to settle in Britain is clearly one of

:38:04.:38:07.

its theme, those days around 150,000 people take citizenship

:38:07.:38:10.

tests in the UK ever year. Candidates had expect to have a

:38:10.:38:14.

good knowledge of British history, culture and tradition. This week,

:38:14.:38:17.

the Government published a new edition of Life In The Untited

:38:17.:38:21.

Kingdom. A book which claims to contain everything you need to know

:38:21.:38:25.

to pass the test. Does the guide paint a picture of Britain that we

:38:25.:38:28.

would recognise? The new book is described by the

:38:28.:38:32.

hoves as "essential reading" for migrants, who have a good command

:38:32.:38:38.

of English, and who hope to make a permanently in the UK. -- life

:38:38.:38:44.

environmently in the UK. A previous edition of the guide contained what

:38:44.:38:47.

the hoves called mundane information, on timetables for

:38:47.:38:53.

trains and water metres. This has been striped away. Now it

:38:53.:38:57.

concentrates on culture traditions and the people who have put the

:38:57.:39:02.

"great" into Britain. The role call runs from Shakespeare to Morecambe

:39:02.:39:07.

and Wise, Coronation Street, The Beatlesles, and Monty Python making

:39:07.:39:11.

appearances. Included too are examples of British engineering,

:39:11.:39:14.

scientific discovery, and our history, from the Stone Age to the

:39:14.:39:20.

present day. The book aims to show how Britain has evolved, and to

:39:20.:39:24.

encourage participation in British life, but do its references provide

:39:24.:39:31.

a rounded and accurate picture of the UK in 2013.

:39:31.:39:38.

Zoe, it was a ripping read? No. It is surreally bland. It is like the

:39:38.:39:47.

British Government is doing a ethnografy on itself. But you would

:39:47.:39:50.

-- ethnography on itself. You would think Britain is the most boring

:39:50.:39:55.

place on earth. You can go camping and get something called an

:39:55.:39:58.

allotment. We have people coming over only to eat Yorkshire pudding,

:39:58.:40:02.

nothing else. It is by zafrplt I was very interested, it was

:40:02.:40:09.

teaching me a lot of things about the Stone Age I had no idea about.

:40:09.:40:13.

It is a cross between a Ladybird book and a driving test book. I

:40:13.:40:18.

wanted to keep it for my seven- year-old, if he ever needed to look

:40:18.:40:21.

stuff up. We were just talked about Harold Pinter, the theatre section?

:40:21.:40:26.

It is a disgrace. It is terrible. It literally says all we have is

:40:26.:40:31.

musical theatre and pantomimes. Andrew Lloyd Webber. And for music,

:40:31.:40:35.

all we have in modern music is the Rolling stones and the Beatles.

:40:35.:40:41.

What is interesting with the music is, two pages are about classical

:40:41.:40:45.

music, the rest is truncated into lists in a page. I think it is

:40:45.:40:49.

interesting when you look at this book, we can use words like "bland"

:40:49.:40:52.

and dismiss it. You have to really look at the messages here. For

:40:52.:40:57.

example, the language. There is one section about the 1970s, and the

:40:57.:41:01.

politics in the 1970s, and the Labour Government, it talks about

:41:01.:41:05.

strikes created, prob blems between the -- problems between the

:41:05.:41:08.

Government and trade unions, and the opposing page, Margaret

:41:08.:41:12.

Thatcher. It talks about Margaret Thatcher's social reform, she does

:41:12.:41:16.

reform, Labour Governments creates problems, that is the problem with

:41:16.:41:19.

bland books, you can dismiss them, but look at the hard language that

:41:19.:41:27.

is used and where. Does it say anything about it and us? It hangs

:41:27.:41:34.

on about the war. Domestic violence? It is, there are elements

:41:34.:41:39.

that are interesting. They essentially say to people you know,

:41:39.:41:43.

female genital mutilation is not on. Although there has never been a

:41:43.:41:46.

prosecution, they don't add. What I think is more interesting about

:41:46.:41:52.

this, is why are people coming here? The last ten years the amount

:41:52.:41:56.

of foreigners coming to live here has gone up by 66%, there are three

:41:56.:42:01.

million more people, why? If you read this it doesn't contain why,

:42:01.:42:05.

it is about the education, the tolerance is mentioned, education

:42:05.:42:08.

and the vibrancy of our culture which is not mentioned at all.

:42:08.:42:15.

mentioned. Life life, but not as you know it, is available in all

:42:15.:42:20.

good book shops, they sell more entertaining versions I'm sure.

:42:20.:42:24.

Thank you to my guest. Next year there is a selection with Anthony

:42:24.:42:28.

Hopkins as Hitchcock, and a new exhibition of Glam, at Tate

:42:28.:42:35.

Liverpool. The BBC Folk Awards took place in Glasgow on Wednesday night.

:42:35.:42:41.

This is the finale, featuring Dougie Mc Clean, and an all-star

:42:41.:42:51.
:42:51.:42:53.

line up singing his song Caladonia. # I don't know if you can see

:42:54.:43:00.

# The changes that have come over # In these last few days

:43:00.:43:07.

# I've been afraid # That the mind drifted away

:43:07.:43:10.

# So I have been telling old stories

:43:10.:43:14.

# Singing songs # That make me think about where I

:43:14.:43:17.

came from # That's the reasons

:43:17.:43:21.

# Why I seem # So far away

:43:21.:43:28.

# Today # Let me tell you that I love you

:43:28.:43:35.

# That I think about you all the time

:43:35.:43:42.

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