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On the review show tonight. In Flight, Denel Washington plays a | :00:15. | :00:22. | |
pilot with troubles at home and in the air. This is SouthJet 227, we | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
are in an uncontrolled dive, we have a jammed stabliser or | :00:26. | :00:31. | |
something. Tricks of the light fantastic in a dazzling show at the | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
Hayward Gallery. Three friends remember old times in a starry | :00:35. | :00:42. | |
Pinter revival. You talk of me as if I were dead. No. And London | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
swings, in Stephen Poliakoff's most ambitious drama to date, Dancing On | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
The Edge. # The dead of night | :00:50. | :00:58. | |
# Express Dancing around with me tonight are | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
the journalist, Miranda Sawyer, the novelist Dreda Say Mitchell, and | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
the art critic of the Independent, pilgpilgpilg. Whether it is Marty | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
McFly driving around in a Dell lorian, Robert Zemeckis's | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
characters are in extraordinary situation, his new movie Flight, | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
starring Denel Washington is no exception. | :01:20. | :01:29. | |
What's your son's name Trevor. "I love you Trevor" Blackbox. | :01:29. | :01:38. | |
love you Trevor, mommy loves you. OK, I have got control. Speedbrakes. | :01:38. | :01:48. | |
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Ahhhhhh. Margaret, power. Gear up. Denel Washington has won a Best | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
Actor Oscar in each of the past two decades, for Training Day, and | :01:57. | :02:07. | |
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Glory. Now, he's up for a third, as Captain Whip Whitaker in Flight. | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
Good morning. Good morning. souls on board. Get them tucked in, | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
we are ready to push. Whitaker is an experienced airline | :02:17. | :02:24. | |
pilot, who courageously deals with a disastrous mechanical failure at | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
30,000-feet. Despite his heroics, he faces a thorough investigation | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
into what happened, which threatens to expose him as an alcoholic and | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
drug user. I have known you 11 years Whip. Right. You going to | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
tell me you and Trina went to dinner and had two glasses of wine, | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
sounds like a nice restaurant, which one was that. You have to say | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
it was an ordinary day, it was an ordinary day, Margaret, you know me, | :02:48. | :02:54. | |
I was in shape to fly. You have a problem saying that? Washington is | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
joined on Korean by British actress, Kelly Reilly, who plays the love | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
interest, and by John Goodman, who plays the closest thing Whitaker | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
has to a friend, drug dealer, Harling. You are a hero man, you | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
will never pay for a drink as long as you live. Zemeckis's films have | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
generated estimated �4 billion over his career, his most recent movies | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
have majored on motion capture technology. | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
But can the more serious adult drama of Flight deliver the | :03:24. | :03:32. | |
critical success Zemeckis seems to be hoping for. | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
Apparently Denel Washington spend spent days, if not weeks in a | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
flight simulator, did you really feel he could fly that plane? | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
yes, it is interesting, that sequence when the plane flips | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
upsidedown is absolutely great. But at the same time, I must admit, I | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
couldn't get rid of scenes from Aeroplane in my mind at the same | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
time. It is a really interesting film. And it is an uneven film, | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
what they need to decide, it is a character study, but which road are | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
they going down, is it about him being an alcoholic, or are they | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
actually trying toe look at the character flaws that make him an -- | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
trying to look at the character flaws that make him an alcoholic. | :04:13. | :04:19. | |
There were laugh-out-loud moments, when you put the oxygen mask on his | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
face, did you like you didn't know what it was going to be? I thought | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
the effort to be ambivalent was so powerful, Denel Washington is | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
played as this kind of hero and anti-hero at the same time, he gets | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
on the plane at the beginning and he's high on coke and all the rest | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
of it. But what I thought would have been much more interesting is | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
if they had suggested that maybe he wouldn't have saved so many people | :04:41. | :04:47. | |
on the plane if he hadn't actually been high and drunk. Because if he | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
had been in withdrawal as an addict, that might have made him | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
malfunction and kill everybody. There was an interesting idea, | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
there is another point in the film where drugs are not necessarily | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
seen to be bad, the idea was he was able to get his way through that? | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
thought that, as a flowback to that in the film were he's about to | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
prepare himself for the investigation, the final jury, he | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
gets trashed, and the only way he can straighten himself out is | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
invite his drug dealer mailt around to take coke in the situation. That | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
is quite interesting. Given the film, essentially, is an | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
alcoholic's road to redemption, to flip that, and say it is | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
interesting, he will go through this out of his mind but in control. | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
It doesn't quite happen, I have to say. There was a film by -- it was | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
a film by AA? It was very AA. was a film about AA. For me, that | :05:39. | :05:47. | |
was the problem. I won't say the ending, but we ended up with a film | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
that could sit nicely on a True Movie channel, if you stop being an | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
alcoholic this can be what happened to your life. Rather than, is it | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
the alcohol we are talking about, or the character flaws in him that | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
make him take the alcohol, that is a different picture. I wanted the | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
darker picture with the more unambiguous, unpredictable ending, | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
rather than the ending I got. whole thing about LA is the | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
obsession with addiction any way, came through clearly. One of the | :06:16. | :06:26. | |
funny points about the film, what a beautiful addict is Kelly Reilly! | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
thought her character was really odd, actually, she's great in it, | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
absolutely brilliant. I have to say the start of this film is terrific, | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
because not only do you get this amazing kind of crash scene, you | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
also get her story, which is in -- incredibly dramatic as well. It is | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
really exciting and then goes another way. But you could have had | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
the whole film without her in it. To be honest, she was not that | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
important. She was very pretty, but her story went nowhere. And her | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
story went nowhere actually because she got clean. That was what I | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
thought was quite interesting. When you watch films, you don't really | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
want a story of somebody getting clean. I think AA does absolutely | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
fantastic work, it is a fantastic thing, but that is not actually | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
what we want to watch. Actually what we want to watch is addicts | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
going slightly nuts, and what happens. And the drug dealers, good | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
God God, we will see him later on, he -- John Goodman, we will see him | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
later on, he does a great job, accompanied the Stones music every | :07:30. | :07:36. | |
time? Every time he comes on he is accompanied by Sympathy For the | :07:36. | :07:43. | |
Devil, here he comes, offering you all these things, I thought he was | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
overplayed. There is a tremenduously controlled scene, and | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
Don Cheadle plays the barrister trying to get him out of trouble. | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
When I first met you I couldn't believe what a drunk, arrogant | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
scumbag you were. Oh really, thank you. But I did the research Captain | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
Whitaker, and the expert analysis, and I'm in awe of what you did. The | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
FAA and the NTSB, took ten pilots, placed them in simulator, recreated | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
the events that led to this plane falling out of the sky. Do you know | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
how many of them were able to safely land the plane? Not one. | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
Every pilot crashed the aircraft, killed everyone on board, you were | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
the only one who could do it. of the best performances I thought | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
was from him? Don Cheadle is a superb actor. He's one of those | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
actors who doesn't take the lead, but keeps films going. One of the | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
other things. One of the other things I found really great about | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
this, is picking up on what Miranda said about Sympathy for the Devil, | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
is the soundtrack. I hated it. thought it was great, the Bill | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
Withers song, Ain't No Sunshine When She Comes, and the "I know, I | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
know" and you have him clearing things out to that refrain. What is | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
this film for? It is a good question, going back to what you | :09:07. | :09:15. | |
said about the devil, it was interesting about how the language | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
of addiction, denial and redemption overlaps with the language of | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
Christianity, there is a fall in the beginning, you see lots of | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
people in the field praying. language of "act of God", that is | :09:29. | :09:36. | |
an insurance phrase. All the way through there is this qaisy | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
philosophical theme of free will versus...That Is an AA approach, | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
given there is a very pivitol point where the co-pilot says to Denel | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
Washington, after the crash, that maybe this was all actually to save | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
him, to save this great, like you say, this Jesus kind of character, | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
to turn his life around. That actually, in order for him to turn | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
his life around he has to crash a plane, everything has to go down. | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
Six people have to die? Just to turn his life around. Denel | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
Washington, this is not a film that has been Garlanded with lots of | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
Oscar nominations, but Denel Washington has one. What chance has | :10:18. | :10:28. | |
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he got? -- Pretty good, with Training Day and Glory who could | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
forget that performance, this film was great, but I could easily | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
forget his performance. See for yourself, Flight lands in a cinema | :10:40. | :10:46. | |
near you today. The last time the review show visited lon does's | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
Hayward Gallery was to see a collection of invisible art. We | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
return for a more tangible collection, but only just. This | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
contains flashing imagery. And loits. | :10:59. | :11:06. | |
The first appraisal in the UK of light art opened in the Haywards | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
galley. There are free standing structures, projections and free | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
standing environments. Recreating some installations that haven't | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
been seen for decades, the exhibition showcases some of the | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
pee nearing works of this art -- pioneering works of this art form, | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
including Dan Flavin's early works and Nancy Holt's elegant holes of | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
light. As you enter the exhibition, you | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
are greeted by a Leo Villareal's Cylindar II, constructed from | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
almost 20,000 individual lights, performing sequences, that change | :11:40. | :11:50. | |
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from pulsating clouds, to swarms of fire flies. The know presents works | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
on all scales, some crafted from the simplest of material, some | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
harnessing technology to create sophisticated illusions. | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
In the more immerseive pieces, viewers become part of the art | :12:04. | :12:14. | |
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themselves. The Chilean artist, Ivan Navarro's piece, Reality Show, | :12:15. | :12:23. | |
even puts the spectator in a class case of their own. Other pieces | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
take advantage of the nature of perception to manipulate our ways | :12:27. | :12:37. | |
of seeing. There is a combination of flowing water and strobe | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
lighting to create an ice-like landscape in a model for a timeless | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
garden. So is this an exhibition which you | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
can quickly switch off, or will visitors experience ghost images | :12:52. | :12:59. | |
long after they leave. Zoe, it was interesting, at the | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
beginning of the exhibition it said, that vision is the most unreliable | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
of our senses. Did you doubt your eyes, did you think you were seeing | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
things not knowing you were seeing what you thought was in front of | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
you? Yeah, I think the curator of this exhibition calls light as a | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
medium which the artists work in, and immaterial, material, there is | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
that sense of the intanningability of light, but at the same time, the | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
experiences you are having, in the different installations is so | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
powerful and all consuming, you saw the last piece in the exhibition | :13:33. | :13:40. | |
there, Model for a Timeless Garden, and there is the strobe light. The | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
warnings for the strobe light aren't very visible, it is a real | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
shock to the system, I found. You see the waterfalls, there are 27 | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
waterfalls unthe strobe. They look like strange frozen spiders, almost | :13:53. | :14:02. | |
coming towards you. I could only spend 30 seconds in there and I had | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
to leave. That is fantastic about the exhibition. There is one you go | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
in, you have to take your hand along the right-hand side of the | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
wall, move around and sit on a bench, and you look at something, | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
which can only be described as being in the middle of a Rothko | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
painting, the red absorbs you? There is aspects to the show that | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
is really fantastic. It is interesting to be in a show where | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
you are actually invited to look at something beautiful. That is a | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
fantastic example. You are invited to be in a environment that is | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
entirely beautiful. But having said that, I think a lot of the problem | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
I had with this show, I have seen a lot of this before, and in fancy | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
light showrooms, you go in and see a big chandelier and it is a bit | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
like that. I have seen it at concerts. Idea that you are part of | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
the show walking through a laser, and, really. There is one where | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
there is a bit of dry ice. So, the problem I had with it, on occasion, | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
was when it is really beautiful and it really struck me as in the piece | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
you mentioned, that is fine. When it is just pretty I wanted | :15:04. | :15:10. | |
something more. That is why I enjoyed the Jenny Hollser which has | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
other meanings, I found that more interesting. The Navarro, the idea | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
of going into that room and looking down was about Chile, wasn't it, it | :15:18. | :15:24. | |
was about repression? It was, it is interesting, I will pick up on what | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
Miranda said about the pretty. For me with this light show, there was | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
some light, and I thought it is the one with the flurres sant light, | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
the Dan Flavin work, I accident like it t I asked myself why I | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
didn't. I -- I didn't like it, I asked meself why, because it | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
reminded me of the 1970s where times were bad. I think that is | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
what he wants. Where as The Village People, the cubicle two, with all | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
the glitter, I think glitter is underrated in art, it is seen as a | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
trivial material, that brought back great memories of the 70s, and the | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
older women in my family stepping out, blinged up to the eye liner | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
and looking really great. It was interesting. For me, I kind of | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
immersed myself, it was an imminent response. There was one we couldn't | :16:09. | :16:15. | |
actually show, the Turrell, and also Katie Patterson's, one of the | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
best ones, the little room. It was exactly as moonlight would be. I | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
thought that had an enormous poetry to it? I love Katie Patterson's | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
work. She's worked with engineers on that piece to create this | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
lightbulb, as you say, that simulates moonlight, from a | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
combination of earth light, starlight and moonlight. What is | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
generally really interesting about her work, is while earlier artists, | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
maybe like Dan Flavin, were really excited by the possibilities of | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
working with electric light, younger artists like Katie, who is | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
about 30, 31, are more interested in, and kind of looking back to a | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
time when light pollution hadn't blotted out these natural, | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
beautiful phenomena, like the moon. But then she is using technology to | :17:03. | :17:09. | |
get that natural original effect. Sometimes I think that's why it is | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
hard to summerise this exhibition, essentially -- summerise this | :17:14. | :17:21. | |
exhibition, you have it all being about different things in terms of | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
artists. Things will hit people and other times missing with people. | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
Just because they all use art, doesn't mean they are trying to | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
produce the same thing. It is interesting to gather them together | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
n the concrete environment of the Hayward. It does show you a kind of | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
aesthetic that you have actually really universally, in today's | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
society, can you go to bars and they look like that, and they wink | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
at you in the same way. I think that is quite interesting to gather | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
it there and think, actually, even if you don't to relate to the art, | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
it has given awe general contemporary aesthetic that was | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
completely dominant. If you were to go to the Olympic Opening Ceremony, | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
the light shows that lighting engineers put on are art? They are, | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
and that was the bit where it failed for me. Just because of that. | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
Because I'm so familiar with some of the techniques that are used. If | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
you spend a whole morning in there, as I did, and you are prone to | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
migraine, it gets really tiring. It is quite hard work on the eyes in | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
the end. I quite liked, there were some that I had to come out had, I | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
certainly had to come out of the one you did. But the Doug Wheeler, | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
no sharp edges in the room, but the idea of it was untitled and | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
saturated, you looked and you thought your vision was changing | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
and the middle of getting darker. I loved the fact our eyes were | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
changing every second we watched that? That is an incredible piece | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
that. I walked up to it and couldn't work it out at all. That | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
is what is interesting, partly, about vision itself. That you are | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
filling, your eyes don't see properly, they are filling in | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
things all the time, they are lying to you all the time. For you to go | :18:57. | :19:03. | |
in and out of those pieces, the more enveloping pieces was an | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
interesting experience. You would say you need a break occasionally. | :19:06. | :19:12. | |
Get your light sabres out, it is there until the end of April. | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
Two years ago the London comedy theatre was renamed the Harold | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
Pinter Theatre, in honour of a man whose plays often appeared there. | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
In this new production of Old Times, directed by Ian Rickson, Kirsten | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
Scott Thomas and Lia Williams alternate the female roles of Kate | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
and her friend Anna. Rufus Sewell plays the possessive husband, | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
Deeley. Pinter explores the way we make and sometimes subconsciously | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
remake our memories in the context of our triangular relationship | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
between a married couple and the wife's best friend. Some time later | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
in the night I woke and looked across the room and saw two shapes. | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
Did he come back? He was lying across her lap, on her bed. A man, | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
in the dark, lying across, my wife's lap. But then in the early | :20:05. | :20:12. | |
morning, he had gone. Thank Christ for that. It was as if he had never | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
been. Of course he had been, he went to us and came once. Scott | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
Thomas's last stage role was in Pinter's Betrayal, also directed by | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
Ian Rickson, and Lia Williams is a seasoned Pinter performer too. But | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
this is the first time that actresses have alternated roles of | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
Anna and Kate in the West End. is interesting about playing both | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
parts is you have extra layers of knowledge about who these | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
characters are. Because there are things that I have seen in Kate | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
when Lia is playing Kate, that I hadn't, I thought I hadn't thought | :20:45. | :20:51. | |
about that, I integrated it into my performance. You talk of me as if I | :20:51. | :20:57. | |
were dead. No, no you weren't dead. You were so lively, you were so | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
animated, you used to laugh. course you did, I made you smile | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
myself, walking down the street together, holding hands, you smiled | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
fit to burst. She could be so animated. Animated is not the word | :21:10. | :21:18. | |
for it, when she smiled, I can't describe it. Her eyes lit up. | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
Couldn't have put it better myself. Miranda it is pretty darned | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
enterprising to change them around so everybody has to see the play | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
twice. But as has it enriched your understanding of the play and | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
enjoyment of it? It did. I went to see not the way round we have seen | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
there, the first time round, I really enjoyed t it was quite a | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
strange experience, I preferred it with the way we have just seen now, | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
with Kirsten Scott Thomas as Anna, as the interloper. The difference | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
is quite interesting, it is a lot stronger the second time round, | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
there is a lot more anger, it is very brittle. The performance, I | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
have to say, are pretty terrific, throughout, whatever way you get it | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
they are pretty terrific. The only thing I would say, the direction is | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
great, I thought the play didn't come out that well, I have to say. | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
The only way that I could really enjoy it the second time round, was | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
when I thought of it in a different way. So I thought actually, what | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
Anna was, was what Kate could have become. She didn't exist, she had | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
come in, and she was showcasing everything he could have been. You | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
could have been this fantastic person but you went off with this | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
man who squashed you down. From the audience's point of view, you might | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
have had a different response if you had seen it the other way round | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
first? You really might have done. The other thing that does is | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
emphasise the interchangability of the women, for the man. So when | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
they first meet, you have no idea which one he is fall anything love | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
with. Do you think, though, that the character Rufus Sewell's | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
character changes, do you see a change in him in the two | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
performances? I didn't particularly, I think his manic energy really, | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
really works, maybe that was upped slightly in the second, when | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
Kirsten Scott Thomas was playing Anna. I think they had a much | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
greater sexual chemistry, so the scenes where they are talking about | :23:15. | :23:21. | |
the bath, and washing the wife, and she's the invisible catalyst for | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
their foreplay. I think there was much more of a genuine tension | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
between him and Kirsten Scott Thomas. Throughout these themes, | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
how Harold Pinter came back to many times, which is memory, rembering, | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
false memory, among memories on purpose. You never knew. I thought | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
that was one of the best things about it, you never knew whom who | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
was playing games with whom? This is an interesting play, if you | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
think about Harold Pinter's life back in 1971, it is incredibly | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
turbulent. I think the main character in this is the husband, | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
Deeley. It is interesting in the programme, there is an extract from | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
Antonia Fraser, Harold Pinter's wife, it says he said to her, it is | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
a play where Deeley is a man defeated by women. What I did | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
notice for me, there was a real difference in the performance. When | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
Kirsten Scott Thomas sexed it up, as Anna, there is such a kind of | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
chemistry between her and Deeley. So I think he stops being giggley | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
and stumbling as I saw him in the first performance. In the second | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
one he's a desperate man, that is what you need to see is that | :24:32. | :24:41. | |
desperation, a man defeated by women. That triangle was visited in | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
Betrayal, but it is powerful. It is also vicious, it was one of the | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
reviews I read talked about the fact that you take away the other | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
stuff away and you are left with bullying? And anger, so much anger | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
in the second one. That weird element that, I think, we haven't | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
mentioned Lia Williams, she has a very strange energy, which I | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
actually think is really interesting. When she plays Kate, | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
show's like a child being argued over by divorced parents. It is a | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
very interesting element. What is so interesting is the shift in that, | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
is the language is the same in both, the language is very Pinteresque. | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
They move slightly different, they are slightly doing the same thing, | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
in one performance somebody ends up on the floor, in the other | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
performance they don't. They do move very differently. I think the | :25:29. | :25:38. | |
sceney is very good. That is hilder Gard Bretler. Just the way the | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
furniture is positioned, it gives distance between the character. | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
saturated colours of it, they were depressing n a way. It has that | :25:46. | :25:56. | |
:25:56. | :25:58. | ||
weird, you know that play where Hell is other People, the Satre. | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
You only exist as other people see you or remember you, who are you | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
within this kind of triangle. And that, I found, very interesting. I | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
think if you imagine, if you imagine Anna as all the dreams that | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
got away t becomes more interesting. Sticking with the language point, | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
when Pinter says himself, ordeal deal says himself, that you used | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
the word "lest" I haven't heard that word used for years. It is in | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
another line. It is playing with language. Pinter is all about the | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
text and language. This is the problem, if the performances don't | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
work out, they are not going to work out. I think Pinter can be | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
very unforgiving for actor. So for me, the second time round, within | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
I'm listening to it, I heard so much more of the performance, | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
didn't you just? Than the timing, it worked for me. It is three | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
people in a room talking for 80 minutes, it doesn't feel like it, | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
but that is what it is. It is extraordinary, when Kirsten Scott | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
Thomas undergoes the transformation with the wig, and how she becomes | :26:59. | :27:05. | |
funny. I have never seen her in that kind of comic role, she's very | :27:05. | :27:11. | |
good at the enuit of the board, the housewife, she was really funny, | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
picking out the way they talk about, when she gives the speech and she's | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
enjoying the fact in the past that her and her girlfriend had their | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
own sandwiches. It is just utterly bizarre. Her body language is | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
betraying what she's actually saying, which is quite mundane, but | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
she's talking about, rembering a one-night stand. It is highly | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
sexualised. There is a really interesting part, when there is a | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
line, "you are nearly 40", the first performance it sound like an | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
insult and all the audience laughed. The second performance, it is | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
stunning, it is electricity, just that one line. Old Times runs at | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
the Harold Pinter Theatre until the 6th of April. Go once or twice. | :27:55. | :28:01. | |
For many, the 1930s Britain image conjures up country houses, the | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
country struggling through tough economic times, we see little of | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
this in Stephen Poliakoff's new BBC Two series, Dancing On The Edge. | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
Set in London this five-part drama, draws on the relatively unknown | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
stories of the black, mostly American jazz musicians, who | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
company turd the attention of the high society crowd, with their -- | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
captured the attention of the high society crowd with their | :28:23. | :28:30. | |
intoxicating new sounds. The story focuses upon the rise to | :28:30. | :28:36. | |
fame of the Louis Lester Band. Chiwetel Ejiofor plays the quietly | :28:36. | :28:43. | |
confident Londoner, Louis, and there is the journalist Stanley, | :28:43. | :28:48. | |
who promotes the band in his magazine Music Express. The band | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
shook the room with their intensity, and showed the music could appeal | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
to a larger audience than it presently enjoys. You are home- | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
grown I was born here. He has lost his birth certificate. It has gone | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
missing, I need to find it. Dancing On The Edge is an ensemble piece. | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
Along said the suave Antony Head, John Goodman plays the enigmatic Mr | :29:12. | :29:20. | |
Masterson, and Mer Smith the hotel owner, Mr Schlesinger. I met Albert | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
yesterday, he could absolutely not believe that I had coloured | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
musicians staying in this hotel. Just down the road at the Savoy | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
Theatre, people are walking out of Othello even as we speak, because | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
of the coloured actor, Robeson, is kissing his Desdemona. | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
Poliakoff wrote and directed the whole series, which runs to six | :29:39. | :29:43. | |
hours. A commission that's relatively unheard of in British | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
television. Set in an age when racist attitudes would have been | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
the norm, the series explores the unlikely relationships formed | :29:51. | :29:56. | |
between black jazz musicians and the aristocracy in 1930s Britain, | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
revealing a progressive attitude that was perhaps ahead of its time. | :29:59. | :30:05. | |
# Wind blows round the steeple # Mm empty world and sleepy people | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
# I lie awake. Dancing On The Edge is a period | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
drama that tackles an extraordinary time of change in British history, | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
do its themes of economic depression, immigration and an | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
obsessive celebrity culture, still resonate today. | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
# The dead of night # Express | :30:24. | :30:34. | |
It has all things that Poliakoff loves, it is 1930s, country houses, | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
aristocrats, trains. Does he lose them in the right way? The last | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
thing I saw of Poliakoff was a play that Tracey Ullman was in, I | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
thought it was a drama school student had written it. This is | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
great, it is really seductive. All the way that you want this | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
television to be. So everybody's really good looking, the clothes | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
are absolutely gorgeous, the music is really great. It takes you on a | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
slow journey, but quite an interesting one. It is an | :31:01. | :31:05. | |
interesting time in English his treatment one of the things I | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
thought was really lovely at the beginning, is you associate jazz | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
with America, of course, especially black jazz. To have it taken over | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
and put in aristocrats house, it is perfect television. I completely | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
disagree, I absolutely hated this. I would have turned it off after 30 | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
seconds if I hadn't been reviewing it. I just found, I don't know, I | :31:29. | :31:38. | |
find the sort of fetishisation of this old image of the aristocracy | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
that they are privilegesed and maybe lazy but they are glamorous, | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
who cares. I find that difficult to stomach. What is interesting about | :31:46. | :31:53. | |
it, is that there's an element where that is undermined. So there | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
is couple of scenes, where what you get is these posh aristocrats | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
saying they are really liberal, I don't know if you have noticed we | :32:01. | :32:04. | |
are really liberal because we love you, out there, there are lots of | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
people out there that aren't like us. I think that is resonant, very | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
true in society today, that you have that. It is interesting, I | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
think I'm a bit in the middle here. I was really interested in | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
Poliakoff doing this, because I think it is such an interesting | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
period. It is interesting because it is this notion of jazz coming | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
from America. If I'm not wrong here, I think they will have based the | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
life on The Edge Of Love character on Leslie Hutchinson, Hutch, from | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
Grenada in the Caribbean. I think one of the things that's missing | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
for me, I'm like Miranda, I love it, but I'm wondering about the | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
musicians, they file like they are just musicians at the moment, and | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
reacting to other people. Are they going to become fuller people. Will | :32:48. | :32:58. | |
:32:58. | :32:58. | ||
we find more about their back story, really? Obviously the women Angel | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
and Wuummi, are featured, but the rest of the band, they are there. | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
They are like instruments. And you can fairly say that none of the | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
white characters are unexplored, at all? Not really. So I'm interested | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
about that. I'm interested in the whole thing about in drama, in | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
British drama and tele, why have we so many black actors fleeing this | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
and going over to the states, because, I think, they get real | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
parts. This is great this drama, but once again it is about using | :33:28. | :33:34. | |
black actors to explore ethnicity and "race". It is interesting if | :33:34. | :33:38. | |
you compare it with Flight were it is unmentioned. You didn't notice | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
who was black and who was white. This is the nature of the story | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
isn't it. The central performance of Chiwetel Ejiofor is | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
extraordinary, and Poliakoff knows how stunning his performance is, | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
and he holds these images of him beautifully? I have to say, even if | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
you're not interested in this story, to be honest, if you are a straight | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
woman you are fine, you have two really hot leads, being hot. And | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
speaking as a journalist, and particularly a music journal is, | :34:07. | :34:15. | |
you have a music journalist being really cool. This never happens! | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
Racism is threaded throughout the performance. Here is Chiwetel | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
Ejiofor talking about what actually happened. You can imagine this | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
absolutely did happen. You must have had to deal with a lot of | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
prejudiced people. Of course, yes, and you never know where it is | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
going to come from either. Sometimes it is the people you | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
don't expect. I remember bumping into a table when I was coming off | :34:37. | :34:43. | |
the stage and the couple nearest to me, the lady was covered in jewels, | :34:43. | :34:49. | |
but she was very young, charming looking, and both of them, this | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
couple started wiping their cuttlery, with their nip kins, even | :34:53. | :35:00. | |
though I wasn't anywhere -- napkins, even though I wasn't anywhere near | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
them, and they changed them just to be sure. That is very revealing. | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
Very simply done, very low-key. was a soapbox moment for me. | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
Soapbox, all of a sudden I thought what's happening to this drama, and | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
then after that you get Antony Head talking, and goes into this big | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
long speech about racism. And I thought, stop, stop. It is just not | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
there. The problem with it is the musicians are too deferential, they | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
are too grateful for this royal and aristocratic patronage, I know | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
maybe this will change as the series progresses, we have only | :35:34. | :35:39. | |
watched the first two episodes. But I would have loved there to be some | :35:39. | :35:45. | |
tension in their acceptance. There was, but. What is interesting with | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
that, there is still an ambiguity about whether the guy who wants to | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
be the patron did try to find his birth certificate. He wanted him | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
away. He had no trouble in actually dismissing him. The scene we have | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
seen I agree is soapboxy, the reason is works actually the acting. | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
There is a kind of layer that is given by these great actors, that | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
are basically saying this is soapboxy, but actually you can tell | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
this man is going to let them down, lock at him, he will let them down, | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
he's being really liberal and you are great being my lovely friend. | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
You know later on he will walk off and do something else. In terms of | :36:22. | :36:31. | |
performances, singing, phenomenal. I thought so. Angel Coulby. | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
disagree, I love that kind of music and music of that period. In order | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
to believe in the hype around this band, the music had to be | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
completely outstanding. And I just don't think, I thought it changed | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
into muzak. I think there were really good performances in it. | :36:49. | :36:56. | |
thought she was great, Angel. of the young women. And Wummi as | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
well. Wasn't it great to see a whom who looked like a woman on screen. | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
Let's have more women like that. What Poliakoff manages to do so | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
brilliantly is location, lovely country houses, and the look of the | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
thing. It looked like something you wanted to watch but not Downton | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
Abbey? It is interesting to compare it with Downton Abbey, the | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
relationships between the servants and masters were really | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
contemporary, everybody was really nice to each other. They really | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
were liberals in a way, they possibly wouldn't have been, they | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
definitely wouldn't have been at the time. I think maybe I'm just | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
incredibly excited because I'm seeing a Poliakoff that I enjoy. I | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
hope that what will happen is these relationships, that seem so liberal, | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
and so great, are going to be shattered, particularly by the fact | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
that the war is coming, and they think fascism is on the rise, that | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
something will happen to shatter this, and it won't be what we think. | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
I sincerely hope so, Dancing On The Edge starts on BBC Two Monday night. | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
Try to catch it. The desire to settle in Britain is clearly one of | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
its theme, those days around 150,000 people take citizenship | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
tests in the UK ever year. Candidates had expect to have a | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
good knowledge of British history, culture and tradition. This week, | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
the Government published a new edition of Life In The Untited | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
Kingdom. A book which claims to contain everything you need to know | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
to pass the test. Does the guide paint a picture of Britain that we | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
would recognise? The new book is described by the | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
hoves as "essential reading" for migrants, who have a good command | :38:32. | :38:38. | |
of English, and who hope to make a permanently in the UK. -- life | :38:38. | :38:44. | |
environmently in the UK. A previous edition of the guide contained what | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
the hoves called mundane information, on timetables for | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
trains and water metres. This has been striped away. Now it | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
concentrates on culture traditions and the people who have put the | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
"great" into Britain. The role call runs from Shakespeare to Morecambe | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
and Wise, Coronation Street, The Beatlesles, and Monty Python making | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
appearances. Included too are examples of British engineering, | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
scientific discovery, and our history, from the Stone Age to the | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
present day. The book aims to show how Britain has evolved, and to | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
encourage participation in British life, but do its references provide | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
a rounded and accurate picture of the UK in 2013. | :39:31. | :39:38. | |
Zoe, it was a ripping read? No. It is surreally bland. It is like the | :39:38. | :39:47. | |
British Government is doing a ethnografy on itself. But you would | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
-- ethnography on itself. You would think Britain is the most boring | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
place on earth. You can go camping and get something called an | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
allotment. We have people coming over only to eat Yorkshire pudding, | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
nothing else. It is by zafrplt I was very interested, it was | :40:02. | :40:09. | |
teaching me a lot of things about the Stone Age I had no idea about. | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
It is a cross between a Ladybird book and a driving test book. I | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
wanted to keep it for my seven- year-old, if he ever needed to look | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
stuff up. We were just talked about Harold Pinter, the theatre section? | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
It is a disgrace. It is terrible. It literally says all we have is | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
musical theatre and pantomimes. Andrew Lloyd Webber. And for music, | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
all we have in modern music is the Rolling stones and the Beatles. | :40:35. | :40:41. | |
What is interesting with the music is, two pages are about classical | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
music, the rest is truncated into lists in a page. I think it is | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
interesting when you look at this book, we can use words like "bland" | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
and dismiss it. You have to really look at the messages here. For | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
example, the language. There is one section about the 1970s, and the | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
politics in the 1970s, and the Labour Government, it talks about | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
strikes created, prob blems between the -- problems between the | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
Government and trade unions, and the opposing page, Margaret | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
Thatcher. It talks about Margaret Thatcher's social reform, she does | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
reform, Labour Governments creates problems, that is the problem with | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
bland books, you can dismiss them, but look at the hard language that | :41:19. | :41:27. | |
is used and where. Does it say anything about it and us? It hangs | :41:27. | :41:34. | |
on about the war. Domestic violence? It is, there are elements | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
that are interesting. They essentially say to people you know, | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
female genital mutilation is not on. Although there has never been a | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
prosecution, they don't add. What I think is more interesting about | :41:46. | :41:52. | |
this, is why are people coming here? The last ten years the amount | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
of foreigners coming to live here has gone up by 66%, there are three | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
million more people, why? If you read this it doesn't contain why, | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
it is about the education, the tolerance is mentioned, education | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
and the vibrancy of our culture which is not mentioned at all. | :42:08. | :42:15. | |
mentioned. Life life, but not as you know it, is available in all | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
good book shops, they sell more entertaining versions I'm sure. | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
Thank you to my guest. Next year there is a selection with Anthony | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
Hopkins as Hitchcock, and a new exhibition of Glam, at Tate | :42:28. | :42:35. | |
Liverpool. The BBC Folk Awards took place in Glasgow on Wednesday night. | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
This is the finale, featuring Dougie Mc Clean, and an all-star | :42:41. | :42:51. | |
:42:51. | :42:53. | ||
line up singing his song Caladonia. # I don't know if you can see | :42:54. | :43:00. | |
# The changes that have come over # In these last few days | :43:00. | :43:07. | |
# I've been afraid # That the mind drifted away | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
# So I have been telling old stories | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
# Singing songs # That make me think about where I | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
came from # That's the reasons | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
# Why I seem # So far away | :43:21. | :43:28. | |
# Today # Let me tell you that I love you | :43:28. | :43:35. | |
# That I think about you all the time | :43:35. | :43:42. |