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Tonight on the review show, everything from luminous Leonardo

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to brutal Bronte. Director Andrea Arnold brings a

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modern sensability to a much-loved classic. But do we need another

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Wuthering Heights? What will be his name? Heathcliff. The national

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gallery assembles the biggest collection of Leonardo's paintings

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ever, is there anything new to learn. We have never had the

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opportunity to study his aims and ambitions, his extraordinarily huge

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ambitions for the art of painting. Vikram Seth is famous for his epic

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tones, can his new, lighter offering, please plans. "joy came

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and grieve, love came and loss, three years. Error Morris tells an

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extraordinary tale in Tabloid, is the master at the height of his

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powers. I could never understand the public's fascination with my

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love life. Plus Liz Green joins us live in the studio to play you into

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the weekend. # So we're standing in line

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# With our pots and our pans Joining me in the hallowed halls of

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Review this week, are four panelists who couldn't be less

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tabloid, Patterson from the Independent, Anne McElvoy, James

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Purnell and John Mullan, professor of English at University College

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London. You can loudly agree, disagree or disabuse our panel on

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Twitter, do be aware they do sometimes bite back. First up

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tonight, it is the much anticipated new film from Arnold, who made so

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much noise with her last film, Fish Tank. She has turneder attention to

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the wild and wind swept lovers, who have haunted and terrorised so many

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English students over the years. Emily Bronte's only novel,

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Wuthering Heights, must be the most well read and highly analysed books

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in the English language. And a favourite for the creative types,

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from Lawrence Olivier to Kate Bush. # Heathcliff

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# It's me a Cathy It has inspired a multitude of

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dramatic adaptations, each with its own unique signature and style.

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go it's mine. What children they are. I wouldn't change my life for

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their's. Even if I go throw Joseph off the roof and paint the house

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with Hindley's blood. Now acclaimed director Andrea Arnold brings her

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inter pretation to the big screen. Arnold chose to tell the tale with

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the same gritty realisim as past films, Fish Tank and Red Road.

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Focusing the film on Heathcliff's troubled boyhood. Arnold tells the

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story from his point of view. I will cleanse you. What will be

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his name. Heathcliff. Heathcliff, do you reject Satan, come on.

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struggle now. Arnold's near fanatical commitment to

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authenticity, left the unknown actors, filming in the gruelling

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conditions of autumnal Yorkshire. There was the minimal amount of

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dialogue. Ungrateful little. Whilst the two Cathys, breerbreerbreer and

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Skins actress, Kaya Scodelario, have to portray a transformation

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from muddy child to elegant lady of the house.

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Arnold's minimalism extended to largely hand held filming, and the

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almost total absence of the score, choosing the natural sounds of the

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landscape to set the scene. Cathy, Cathy.

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The director herself has admitted any attempt will never do the book

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justice. So was she right to try? He's gone.

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Andrea Arnold said earlier this week that the world needed another

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adaptation of Wuthering Heights like a hole in the head, but the

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material was singing to her and she couldn't resist. Do you think she

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should have? Yes, I do. I mean because I don't think it is an

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adaptation of Wuthering Heights, indeed my usual president dantic

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pleasure at noting all the things - - president dantic pleasure at

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noting all the things got wrong were denied me by the film. It says

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it is based on the book by Emily Bronte. It is based on all the bits

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that are dealt with perfubgt actually in the book itself. Half

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the film is the child Hoo and the childhood relationship in --

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childhood and the childhood relationship with Heathcliff and

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Cathy, which is dealt with in a small way in the book. There is a

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point that we need to understand their childhood stories that are so

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important. This book takes the ferocity of the spirit of the book,

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and reimagines it visually and orally, there is no music in the

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book, you hear every little sound and every bit of the weather. The

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weather is in the camera, it really gets into the camera. It is

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absolutely visually extraordinary. The best thing about it, it might

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make you want to read the book again. Do you share her obsession

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with the lives of the children, before they become their adult

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selves? I loved this film, I absolutely loved it. I think it

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caught the spirit of the book in a way nobody has done. The cruelty

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and the hostile English landscape that anyone of us has ever seen. It

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is awash with mud, and lashing winds and just so elemental, I

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thought it really gave a sense of where this terror and cruelty and

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passion came from. I felt it was absolutely right to focus on the

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childhood in those ways. Those actors were absolutely phenomenal,

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Solomon Glave, you know, mixed race, we haven't raised the race thing,

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as a mixed race child, that was inspired. I thought it just sort of

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reinterpreted the whole thing, it brought it brilliantly alive. I

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loved it. Everyone is focusing very much on the fact that she cast a

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mixed race Heathcliff, does it work for you? It did work, you were

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going to have him in the foreground. She decided to primarily tell it as

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his story. It is perfectly alongside the book. He's derided

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racially from the moment he arrives. She lays it on too thick, there is

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barely a scene when Hindley doesn't call him a ligger. This constant

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use of a word, which you feel is put there to alarm and offend

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modern audiences is used again and again. You get the point pretty

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well that Heathcliff is an outsider and distrusted, not least because

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of his race from the start. The real problem I have, I completely

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agree with Christina, the childhood bits, the presexual bits, the bond

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between them, and the blossoming sexuality, it was fantastic. There

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were scenes that stuck with me all week, they were so tender and

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passionate. When they grow up it is a disaster. Two different actors,

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and what happens then, it turns into Jane Austen. You find yourself

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looking at the curtains and thinking that is a nice dress. They

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lost it. Perhaps it is too much to do, to put all this intensity on to

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the young couple and say no we will look at what happens and cut it off

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before the end of the novel. I thought that was really where I

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lost it. It was game of two halves, as the footballer commentator, and

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the second one failed. It may be Jane Austen and looking

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at the pretty dress. Three films into Andrea Arnold we are getting a

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sense of the things she likes to do and hear, we have hand held cameras,

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a mystifying 4: 3 ratio, slow plays, lack of a soundtrack, do these

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things work for you? I like the 4:3, I like the way it look, and gives a

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1970s feel, realist but arty thing that you get from the display. I

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thought it was more authentic than a lot of Wuthering Heights. I hate

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the 1939 Lawrence Olivier one, it is sack cin and they distort the

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story. I loved it with the love affair from the start, you really

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believe it. I didn't quite buy it, she made Heathcliff too soft, he's

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almost a wimp in the second half. No he isn't, he's hanging animals

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on fences half the time. But the animal thing, That is all the way

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through, and the hanging of the dog it is almost made as that is what

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people do. He's given an excuse for everything he does. The thing in

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the book he is a torturer but is tordturd. Do you think she should

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have gone all the way to the end where we see Heathcliff as torturer

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come into his own? The 1939 didn't have that, and this one doesn't,

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you don't have his horribleness to Harton, and without the ghost you

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lose the madness. Other films made the decision, they may have made it

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for quite good reason. We want to see Catherine laid down, and after

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that what happens to Heathcliff, though fatastically important in

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the book may be less important. That puts the weight on the actor

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in the second half of the film. is something to take a literary

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classic and cut all the dialogue. It is extremely wordy book, and

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Heathcliff is an articulate wordy person, and even as a teenager.

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Some of these disagreements are almost by the board, they are the

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kind of disagreements one usually has about a costume drama

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adaptation of a drama. Should they have left in this and that. This

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film is an extraordinary reimagining, which makes lots of

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decisions I wouldn't have made. I wouldn't have had Heathcliff as

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monosyllabic as she z but she has made the decisions with a kind of

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fierce conviction that makes it completely unlike any other costume

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drama I can remember seeing. takes little themes in the text,

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she mentions fleetingly that Heathcliff can't cry as a child.

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And then there is the scene when he sees Cathy crying and he puts some

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grit in his eyes to create artificial tears, in itself that is

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very moving. Some scenes later we have Cathy kissing the wounds on

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his back, and then for the first time in his life real tears go down

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his back. I think she's licking him. Being gentle with him, and kissing.

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He is just, I was tremenduously moved by that. I thought there was

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a delicate touch like that. And the way the camera would linger on a

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moth or some flowers. There was an incredible senuality of the

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landscape. You were saying earlier that you thought the landscape was

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for bidding and cruel. I'm a northern girl, in the English

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context, I was aching to go back to the Dales when I saw this. The

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cinematographer deserves a huge applause. A won didn't he. It is

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worth watching because it is so beautiful regardless. The endureing

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appeal of Cathy and Heathcliff as lovers to audience and readers is

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obvious. What do you think she's trying to bring in in tepls of an

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audience, casting an actress like Kaya Scodelario, known from Skins,

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is she bringing in younger people, it is an art house film? I don't

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know what is art house about it. If you see the film it has a 70s feel,

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it feels quite hip. It has a mix of elemental and 1970s, I think it has

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a timeless quality. I think it is just about passion. That surely is

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timeless, isn't it. On that passionate note. It loses a bit of

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the horror. Passion, horror, Wuthering Heights has it all, on

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general release. Puppy lovers beware. If you have ever visited

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the Mona Lisa in Paris, you know the crowds that flock to a single

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painting by Da Vinci. Imagine the frenzied excitement when nine of

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his works are assembled in one place. Our panelists managed to

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beat the crowds and get a sneak peek. It is the ultimate

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blockbuster art show, with more than 60 works by the Italian

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Rennaissance master, many on display in Britain for the first

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time. The curator aimed for a contrast to previous exhibitions,

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which have often focused on other parts of his prodigious output, as

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scientists, engineer and craftman. This is about Leonardo the painter,

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we have had the scientist and draftsman, but we have never had

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the opportunity to study his aims and ambitions, his extraordinarily

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huge ambitions for the art of painting before. Perhaps those

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ambitions limited him, only 15 completed paintings are known. This

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exhibition is a rare chance to see so many in one place. He was a

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great non-finisher, we have to ask ourselves why. I think it is

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because he had such an extraordinary idea of what he

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wanted to achieve in his head, times that was simply uncould be

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tainable. The national gallery has managed to secure collections from

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around the world. A task that required more than a little

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diplomacy People don't lend Leonardos lightly. Some were very

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easy, and others were diplomatic and needed intervention from the

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arts minister. But in the end it is right that each of the decisions

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that various lending institutions made, had to be considered over a

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period of months and years. secure those loans is undoubtedly a

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coup, but rather than merely assembling them, this show aims to

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illustrate a deeper thought. What you are seeing best is the move

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from a painter who considered himself to be essentially the

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mirror of nature, to precisely observe what you could see around

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him. Just somebody who thought that his own act of creation was some

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how like that of gots God's. So he's creating in a way that is, he

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could see as being sort of divine in an odd sort of way. You can

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follow that journey in the nine works. He thought of his own

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creative skills as being akin to those of God. He saw his talent as

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being God-given. It was almost miraculous, I think. Already

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launched to critical acclaim, and selling as fast as any show on

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record, the exhibition is an undoubted hit. Does it make the

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case for Leonardo's position at the very Zen it of art hiry? --

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history? It is a hit this show, does it add

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up to the sum of its parts? parts are pretty amazing. I found

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myself on the front picture with the lady in the ermine, open

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mouthed in the sheer beauty. You don't need to get to the

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explanations behind it, there is fascinating things about how he's

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trying to understand God through nature, to overtake nature, to

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leech to God. His inspiration between different forms of

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philosophy. Actually you just sit there for so many of the paintings

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just completely blown away. To have that pure, absolutely gut wrenching

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feeling is something that is incredibly exciting. These were the

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years that really made him, when he turns up in Milan, he's not yet the

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resonance sans polymath we see today. Rennaissance polymath we see

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today. We are asked to leave our other ideas of him and see him just

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as a painter. Is it possible to do that? It is, it is so jofrpb

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womening it is a lifetime treat. I hadn't realised that I hadn't --

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overwhelming, it is a lifetime treat. I realised I hadn't looked

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at his paintings in detail until I got there. This is the rich

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tapestry laid out before us. They are not in -- full works, but the

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allure of the time sent me to read up on the beautiful women. What are

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the things you realise, a lot of them were mistresses of his patron.

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I love that the drama, the way the wife is staring at the mistress.

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don't know it is the wife. We like to think it is. I just want to make

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one point. One of those women is 16. They have these confidence and

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bearing, it is also a painting about position and power. Everyone

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mentions beauty proportional -- proportion and all the things's

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famous for, their position is precarious, in 15 years it is

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someone else, at the heart of all the paintings. The poise? Still so

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beautiful. Rough time for women, but to be in one of those, fine.

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Extraordinary, as he works to create this ideal of beauty, at the

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same time, every one of those human beings is credible as a human being,

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I think, as a soul. That is why we find it so moving. The exhibition

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is skillfully curated, it is about Leonardo the man, the process

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behind him making these works. It is very well guided. Immediately we

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walk into the exhibition, a sense from a tiny drawing that you might

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go past, the eye, about how it creates creativity in the soul.

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Very early on the painting of a young musician that was a quiet

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revolution. For the first time he turns the portrait around. How did

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you respond to that sense of the way that Leonardo's mind was

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working? I have to say, it has been so heavily hyped this exhibition.

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It is hard for an exhibition to live up to the hype. I found it

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really quite an overwhelming experience. From the moment I went

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in and saw that first picture, it is about the ventricles of the

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brain and perception. I felt overwhelmed. You see the different

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sketches of hands, or drapery, there was one of a child's torso,

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that makes you want to cry. You want to pick up that child and

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cuddle it. It is only a tiny segment of a torso, there is more

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humanity in that segment, than you would find in a thousand artists

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put together. For me, one of the many things that moved me about

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this, this sense of endless quests for perfection. Although he was

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unbelievably lace yeen when it came to -- lazy when it came to painting,

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he only painted 15. One deadline took him 25 years to meet. We all

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relate to that. I love the line about how freelance life didn't

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suit him. But you see the effort he put into what he did do. Then you

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see the paintings, and you just want to weep. For me it was the

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lady with the ermine, that and weirdly the Burlington cartoon,

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more than the Madonnas. But you look at those paintings and you see,

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you can really only call the human soul, a humanity and soul that I

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can't think of another artist that reaches. Lots of people are talking

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about this in rather religious terms? It is a semi-religious

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experience. I'm not sure I'm quite the zealot that everybody else is?

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Why? Because I'm not sure, I think it is a wonderful exhibition. I'm

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not sure I find all the paintings as immediately humanely

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understandable as everybody else seems to. Because to me there is

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something strange as well as human about them. What's fantastic about

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the best ones, the lady the er -- Lady with the Ermine is fantastic.

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What Christina is saying about it is true, it is this strange art

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fact of Rennaissance perfection. He believes in perfection in way we

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don't. It is not like going to see an exhibition by a great artist

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from later centuries, where you are always thinking this is a

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particular person. It is a person, but it is also strangely not her,

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it is also an image, conjured. We don't know what she looked like,

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but it is an image of sort of almost, yes, religious

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contemplation, as well as a particular individual. That's

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what's extraordinary about it, and what makes it, makes some of the

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art works strange and distant as well as wonderful. Sorry, we have

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so much to say, if you want to see perfection or as close as we will

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come to it, the exhibition is on at the national gallery, 500 tickets

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are held back every day to sell on the door. Please do set your alarm

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clocks early, it is really worth the wait. If Leonardo is the

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quintessential Renaissance Man, Seth is also a man of many --

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Vikram Seth is also a man of many talents. Seth is a man of many

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talents, with The Suitable Boy, he also writes poetry. In The Rivered

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Earth, he combines writing with his long-term passion, music. His novel

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An Equal Music, experimented with musical forms, in The Rivered Earth

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he connects with music more directly. It contains music by

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accompanying composer, Seth's own kal Liffey adoorns the pages, it

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takes us all over the world, from China to his Salisbury house, where

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the English poet George herb bet lived and died. Shared ground is on

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the fact Herbet and I shared the ground, his having been here almost

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400 years ago. He's a gentle spirit, it is possible to live in his house,

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he doesn't bully you. Not a hindrance, but encouraging spirit.

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His ghost, his soul is here. He will change my style. But you could

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do worse than rent his rooms of verse. Joy came, and grieve, love

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came and loss, three years, tiles down, moles up, drought, flood.

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Though far in time and faith, I share his tears. His hearth, his

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ground, his mut, yet my host stands just out of mind and sight, that I

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may sit and write. This month sees the release of the CD Shared Ground,

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the musical component of the collaboration between Seth,

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composer Alec Roth and a violinist. Do his talents extend to the

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musical realm? This is being published as a stand

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alone literary work, it is asking to be judged first and foremost on

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those merits, do you think that is right? I think that is trickery. It

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works when you get the music and the big coral sound, which is very,

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very well engineered, in a musical sense. That works extremely well,

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you think now I want to read this libbret toe in detail. The problem

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with the book is it tells you far too much about how he set about

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working on it and his relationship with Alec Roth, it is the

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equivalent of watching sasauges being made. You want to get on and

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read it. You read it, and the spare poetry, it reminds me he's a bridge

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builder between cultures, that sense of the old Chinese and Indian

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poetry, where there is nothing at the end of your life, just you and

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the place you are. That comes over very, very well. I think some of it,

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frank frankly, is a bit windy, the music covers that up, get the music

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alongside the book. Musical sausage making? Agree with Anna. In the

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book he's a connoisseur of his creativity. Not a lovable thing.

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He's a very, clever old thing. He can do the metres, he can do the

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rhymes, and these kind of lots of languages, then he writes Chinese

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translations and you think others do this and brilliantly, this is OK.

:26:48.:26:58.
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He imitates the stanziac forms and well, but why not set the George

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Herbet to music, and don't worry about translating and adapting them,

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go to George Herbet, he was a genius. The aim was because he

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lived in George Herbet's house. They have made some elevated

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comparisons, there is a lot of talk about Bach, Schubert and Herbet.

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Are they setting themselves up for a fall? Genuinely is if one

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mentions Bach! I must say I think I like this more than you two did. I

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agree the peoples are uneven. It is a hotch potch, the book is

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described as libretto and peoples, it can't be both. Unless you buy

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the Bob Dylan is a poet-genius argument, that is a whole other

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deal. Are they peoples or lyrics, it is a miscellaneous job lot. Some

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of the Chinese translations I read 20 years a he didn't meet his

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deadline. Then you have the shared ground peoples, I really like those.

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The spirit of Herbet does pervade them in way that works very well. I

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think what Vikram Seth does beautifully, when his peoples work

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they have a real clarity and simplicity. The lyric is his form.

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I think that those Herbet inspired peoples do work beautifully. With

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the music, no it is not Bach, but it is actually very beautiful coral

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music. With this really haunting ethey areal quality. I'm not in a

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position to judge whether it is great music. I loved it. Without

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the book in front of you and gazing with the lyrics, it would seem like

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an expensive thing that you wouldn't know the results. It does

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make one want to have been there, to hear them in sit tu. With the

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intro to The Traveller, he said he needed a grand entrance, why not

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all human life. That might be preposterous arrogance, coming not

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from Leonardo Da Vinci or Vikram Seth. As a boy he did cover the

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gamit. Do you think a writer of his undourtable powers, do you think he

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should be -- undoublable powers, do you he should be turning his hand

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to this kind of offering? The music, sitting there listening to it

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whilst reading was incredible. I thought the rest of it was uneven.

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There may be an explanation in the way he describes the process. Sends

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in a more worked through multilayered people called Fire,

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then the composer said it is too e elliptical to be set to music. They

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are to too makish. He makes the difference between a text and a

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people. Are we to judge them as a libret toe or a people. The

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translations were published many years ago, do they stand alone now?

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I don't think so. There is a terrible tendency to bathos in a

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lot of them. There is the border line which is to do with reading

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from anticity, you are not sure if it is very profound or very obvious.

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The book is available in all good bookshops, the CD released next

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week. Error Morris is one of the world's most celebrated documentary

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makers, with a string of work in the Thin Blue Line and The Fog of

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War. Now he brings his investigative eye to a rather more

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tawdry tale. Tab is the extraordinary story of

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former beauty Queen, Joyce McKinney, and her mysterious tempt pestous

:31:14.:31:18.

relationship with a young Mormon from Utah, and what happened when

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he went on a mission to London back in 1977. I did what every American

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girl would do if her fiance vanished into thin air strikes I

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looked for him. McKinney describes a weekend of food, fun and sex,

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resulting in charges of imprisonment, and three nopbts in

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Holloway Prison and a covert escape. This is the beginning of a whole

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new idea in the media, the self- invented celebrity. The person who

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has created this strange public image of herself, using tabloid

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newspapers. Now we see Joyce McKinneys everywhere. In the 1970s,

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she was something new. While some newspapers portrayed McKinney as a

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romantic victim, others searched for a more shadey past, and

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suggested she was a depraved sedubgt trees. You have two

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newspapers You have two newspapers fighting over Joyce McKinney and

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whether she's a virgin or aer who. Crazy. The clear interest is not

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who is Joyce McKinney, the interest is whatever story we will put

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:32:43.:32:44.

together to sell newspapers. Tabloid is Joyce McKinney's chance

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to reply. Filmed using Morris trade mark teretron, a device which

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allows direct eye contact with the subject on camera. It calls into

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question firsthand accounts. I could never understand the public

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fascination with my love life, I was a human being caught in an

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extraordinary circumstances. All of us are involved in narrating

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a story to ourselves and to others. Joyce is a perfect example of that.

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She's a person with a strong romantic vision of herself. That

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has remained intact, no matter what has happened to her over the years.

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That does fascinate me. While Tabloid sells a remarkable tale, is

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it anything more than a bit of eccentric fun.

:33:44.:33:50.

Error Morris turned documentary film making on its head with The

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Gates Of Heaven, many of the techniques are standard operating

:33:55.:33:59.

procedure for him, does it pack a punch? It is an extraordinary punch.

:33:59.:34:02.

You have documentaries about really important issues but not that

:34:02.:34:05.

interesting to watch. This is fascinating to watch. I'm not sure

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if it is about a really important issue. He manages with not a lot of

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archive, to keep you gripped all the way through. The story flips

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back wards and forwards, lots of time, like the best thrillers. The

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whole thing about how we perceive her, how she perceives herself, how

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it is interpreted through different people. And how her feelings change

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throughout it. It is an emotional rollercoaster, and great to watch

:34:32.:34:37.

from start to finish. I'm not sure it sheds an awful lot of light on

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celebrity now, I enjoyed watching it. He insists at its heart it is

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about a love story. Is that completely disingenious? Does he

:34:47.:34:52.

really insist that. Clearly that is completely disingenious. It is a

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rollicking good yarn. As I think it is one of the journalists who says

:34:58.:35:08.
:35:08.:35:09.

it is the perfect tabloid story. It is, the man keled norm man meets

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the women. The words are flashed across the screen, manacled Norman,

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and spread eagled. The story is so gripping and she's such a mez

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merising performer, performer she is, I know she is taking legal

:35:31.:35:36.

action. Error Morris said if there was a catagory for Best Performance

:35:36.:35:42.

in a Documentary, she would win it. I do think all that vintage footage

:35:42.:35:52.
:35:52.:36:00.

and 50s kitchen, All of this adds a different slant tonally from all

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the other Error Morris films I have seen. Normally he allows the voices

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to build up into a symphony that speaks for itself, here he is

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commenting on the story. It is not just a rollicking good yarn, it is

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one that we are all invited to snik snigger at. It is fine, but a

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different enterprise. It makes the whole question of tabloid

:36:22.:36:27.

journalism more complicated. He has called it Tabloid, he is a self-

:36:27.:36:34.

professed laufr of tabloids, gets - - lover of tabloids, he's a lover

:36:35.:36:40.

of tabloids. Shall we not talk about tabloid, and comlum inchs and

:36:40.:36:44.

air time. Do you think it works as an investigation into how

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journalists are operating then and today? It is an innocent era in

:36:52.:36:57.

tabloid journalism. It is the moerm mans who tap the phones? Gone are

:36:57.:37:07.
:37:07.:37:07.

the days you could find an American girl tying moerm mans to bed. In

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those 1970s tabloids they spriankled gold dust on newspaper,

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people who -- spriankled gold dust on newspapers. Mab they wouldn't

:37:22.:37:27.

have tapped your phone, these were entertaining blokes you would want

:37:27.:37:30.

a drink with. I'm not sure it tells you something you wouldn't know.

:37:30.:37:34.

You know there will be a fight over the memoirs. This film shouldn't be

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called Tabloid, it should be Joyce. She's so fan tais particular, and

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will be played by McAllister son Steadman at some point. --

:37:43.:37:53.
:37:53.:37:58.

McAllister son Staed man at some point. Tab -- Alison Steadman at

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some point. It only works if you zoo can see yourself in it.

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says an important line about telling a lie long enough and

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believing it. She's not talking about herself. Moving on from Joyce.

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Is she a worthy subject for a at the momentry of this length?

:38:12.:38:17.

not sure -- a documentary of this length? I'm not sure she is. I felt,

:38:17.:38:22.

as Christina felt, I think, that I had a bit of a bad taste in my

:38:22.:38:28.

mouth by the end of it. Half way through I was really enjoying t I

:38:28.:38:31.

agree very much she's an extraordinary performer, and the

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bit part characters are good as well. The iconic old ex-hack, and

:38:39.:38:49.
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the gay, born out of moerm mannism, ex-moerm man mormanism, who tells

:38:55.:38:59.

you what it is all about. It is a tabloid, the pursuit, in

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the end, it felt like a pursuit, it became a bit too much. The joke has

:39:04.:39:08.

an effect. You start feeling, I'm complicit in actually not just

:39:08.:39:13.

finding her entertaining, but actually, yes, laughing at her.

:39:13.:39:17.

Because she's not a character but a human being. I have to stop you all

:39:17.:39:22.

there. We cannot have a serious conversation about Tabloid without

:39:22.:39:26.

talking about Boeg er. The reason I don't agree with that, I would

:39:27.:39:33.

agree if they went on and on about the moermmans, the fact she has

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engineered this tabloid speak, and asking can a woman rape a man, it

:39:38.:39:43.

is like putting a marshmallow in a parking meeting. She is up to the

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game. She's not a victim. You want to talk about the dog, she clones

:39:49.:39:59.
:39:59.:40:02.

her dog. What more could you ask. Tabloid went on general release,

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today. Liz Green will be here to play us out in the studio. You can

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become your own Error Morris, with the BBC's massive documentary

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tomorrow, the BBC are asking you to film something that captures the

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looked at the footage of film taken on the 24th of July, it brought a

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Now Scott is collaborating with the BBC to create a snapshot of Britain.

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That is it for tonight. Thank you to my guest, send us your lovely

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be here with Kerry Shale and others, to discuss the Twilight series. Up

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next is jools Holland. First to get your feed tapping is Liz Green with

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Bad Medicine, from her album, # The words of an old blues man

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# Wrote was in time with his soul # Though his face be cracked and

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worn # Like age old summer soil

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# You know he gave you his hand # To lift him off the ground

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# No-one wants a hand # That's rough to touch

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# From the ship it has been carrying round

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# Every man wants more than he # Ever did before

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# He still has no way out # We have no way out

:42:51.:43:01.
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# No way out # We've got no way out of this

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# Well he walks through town # Like a Bible prophet

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# Knows he owns it all # But sometimes he doesn't bother

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# Sometimes he doesn't bother # For Lord

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# Well he knows the dark hearts of # He's been there before

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# He won't go there again # No he won't go there again

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# For every man wants more than he # Ever did before

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# He still has no way out # We have got no way out

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# No way out # We've got no way out of this

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# So if my eyes turn black # And my teeth fall out

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# Or my hair is caught up in ration # Don't give me none of that

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medicine # For I'll spit it right back out

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# Well he tried so hard # To fit in

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# But he never really got a chance # Before he spoke

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# They burnt him # Roped him

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# Cut him # And finally put him in the ground

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# He said I've been through war # Been through law

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# Climbed that hill so cold # I've been through more than

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# You'll ever know # They won't let me go

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# Every man wants more # Than he ever did before

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# We have no way out # No way out

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# We have no way out of this Mill my eyes turn black

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# And my teeth fall out # May hair's caught up in ration

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# Don't give me none of that medicine

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# For I'll spit it right back out # I will spit it right

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