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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off

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when it comes to your holidays,

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and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters.

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It was a nightmare. That particular day was a nightmare.

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First impressions when we walked in was, "What have we booked?

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"What have we paid for?" It was disgusting.

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So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake,

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or indeed a catch in the small print,

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we'll find out why you were out of pocket,

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories. Your money.

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This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome once again to Rip-Off Britain,

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where for this series we've come to the sunny and,

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as it turns out, rather windy Canary Islands

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- Lanzarote, to be precise -

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investigating the holiday and travel stories

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you've asked us to look into on your behalf.

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Today, we're focusing on problems that can arise

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even before the holiday itself has actually begun,

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cos they're all to do with things that can crop up at the airport.

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As I'm sure you've discovered, of course,

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these days, some of the big airports really fancy themselves

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as destinations in their own right, thanks to all the shops,

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the restaurants and facilities

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designed to fill the time before you even get on your plane.

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But however they're dressed up, for most of us,

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the airport is just a means to an end,

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rather than somewhere to enjoy, in that sense.

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And in the nicest possible way,

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we want to get out of there as quickly as possible,

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without being delayed, or indeed, spending a fortune.

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But sadly, of course, both of those things can happen

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all too frequently.

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So, today, we're going to be advising you

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on everything you need to know if they do.

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We're going to be revealing some quite extraordinary ways

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that airports and even the airlines themselves

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can leave you out of pocket,

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with plenty of advice on putting that right.

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And if you're someone who is seduced

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by all of those bargains in duty free

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- well, aren't we all? -

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I think we've a report you're not going to want to miss.

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Coming up, how airlines are still wriggling out of paying compensation

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for delayed flights, even after the courts have said they should.

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I think that the companies should abide by this new legislation,

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not try and bamboozle people with technical terms.

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And with charges for using trolleys or just for being dropped off,

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have our airports gone too far in squeezing out those extra pennies?

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I feel a little bit let down by some of the airports in the UK.

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I'd really like to find that consumers aren't being exploited,

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but I have a feeling they might be.

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Now, we've talked about flight delays on this programme

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quite a lot, and in particular, about the way it seems that

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some airlines would do their very best to avoid paying compensation

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to passengers who've been seriously delayed.

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But we very much hope that it might not be a topic

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that you would need to complain about again,

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basically because, last year, new rules were introduced

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to make sure that passengers did get the pay-outs

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to which they were entitled.

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Unfortunately, however, that is still not always the case,

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and, indeed, you've been telling us that some airlines appear

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to have ever-more-creative ways in which they can avoid

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paying the compensation that you think you really do deserve.

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Six hours.

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12 hours.

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31 hours.

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We weren't really sure why we were delayed.

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We should've been feeling rejuvenated

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after two weeks away, and we got home exhausted.

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Dozens of you told us that you'd experienced lengthy delays

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on your holiday flights, without receiving any compensation.

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In all too many of such cases, airlines blamed the delays

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on what they called "extraordinary circumstances",

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caused, they said, by "technical defects", which, at the time,

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had been a valid reason to deny a compensation claim.

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But all of that changed in 2014,

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when the Supreme Court stepped in to say that technical faults

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do not always constitute "extraordinary circumstances".

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Legal firm Bott & Co saw that as a watershed moment for passengers.

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It's so significant, because 85% of the defences

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that we get from the airlines say,

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"Technical defect, couldn't have anticipated it."

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But despite that ruling, it seems many of you

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still haven't found it any easier

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to claim compensation after a long delay, and

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you reckon that some airlines have simply found a new form of words

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that they can use as a reason to avoid paying out.

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In 2014, retired teachers Janet and Les Patman

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booked a winter cruise in the Caribbean.

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We decided on the Caribbean because neither of us had been there before,

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and Janet particularly wanted to go there.

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This really was a holiday of a lifetime for us,

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and our expectations were huge.

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The following January, as much of the UK was enduring a dismal winter,

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Janet and Les arrived at Gatwick for their flight with Thomson.

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At check-in, they were told there would be a short 30-minute delay.

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We boarded the plane, I think just after 12 o'clock,

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and we were excited to get a glass of champagne,

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and we thought we were ready to go.

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But the champagne was finished

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long before there was any sign of the flight taking off.

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Cabin crew told passengers that the onboard TVs were broken,

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and there was a fault with all of the plane's toilets.

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Unfortunately, having just had a glass of champagne,

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lots of us ladies, particularly,

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were very keen to start using the toilets

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that were out of use, but nobody knew why.

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The flight eventually took off 90 minutes late,

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and whilst the TVs had been fixed, the toilets hadn't.

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Cabin crew told passengers that they were expected to be fixed

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by the time the plane reached cruising altitude.

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But when this didn't happen,

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the captain announced they'd be turning back to the UK,

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where the loos were repaired on the tarmac.

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Of course, everyone by this time needed to go to the toilet.

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It took...what was it? About another hour?

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-Yeah, over another hour.

-On the tarmac.

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Everybody was queuing right down the plane

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for all the toilets that now were available

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before we could set off again.

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Five-and-a-half hours after they should have originally taken off,

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the plane finally left.

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And while Janet and Les did have a fantastic holiday,

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when they got home, they couldn't forget the shaky start

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that the delayed flight had caused, so they complained to Thomson.

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It was a very disappointing flight,

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and, really, I think we needed an apology.

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But Thomson said the couple was not entitled to any compensation,

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falling back on those familiar words "extraordinary circumstances",

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which, in this case, the airline blamed on what it called

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a "hidden manufacturing defect".

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So how can they use that as their get-out clause

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when that wasn't an extraordinary circumstance?

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It's not like a hurricane or a tornado.

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Litigation executive, Kevin Clarke, agrees.

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He believes the words "hidden manufacturing defect"

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are just the latest catch-all excuse that airlines use

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to get themselves off the compensation hook

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and that, in many cases, what's described as such a defect

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may be no such thing.

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A hidden manufacturing defect

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is something which is diagnosed by the manufacturer of the aircraft,

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or by another competent authority

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and is something which affects every single aircraft in their fleet.

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So the best example I can give is Boeing calling a particular airline,

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telling them there's a problem with this part,

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and all of those aircraft in that fleet are grounded.

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But Kevin doesn't think that what happened to Janet and Les

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falls into that category.

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What the airlines are describing as a hidden manufacturing defect

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isn't actually a hidden manufacturing defect.

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It's a premature failure of one part on one aircraft.

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Things like blocked toilets, burst tyres, a bolt in a wheel,

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and that's something which the courts said last year

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was not an extraordinary circumstance,

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and airlines should pay compensation for that.

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Before the rules were tightened,

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Kevin's law firm had seen airlines using "manufacturing defects"

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as a defence in less than 5% of cases.

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But a year later, they say it's being used in

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a whopping 80% of them.

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Other law firms we've spoken to agree they've seen

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a similar increase, with one of them very firmly of the view

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that when those words pop up,

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it's often simply a "tactic airlines are using to stall the claims".

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Simon Calder is among those who say

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the airlines shouldn't be able to get away with it.

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But, as he says, the trouble is no-one's stopping them.

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There's no real penalty if an airline decides

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it's going to be really awkward with the passenger.

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There is, in each country, a national enforcement body.

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In Britain, it's the Civil Aviation Authority,

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but they seem to be fairly toothless in saying to the airlines,

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"Look, it's your fault, you've got to pay up."

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After years of confusion on this, just like buses,

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no sooner had there been one landmark court ruling

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than another came along almost straightaway.

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This one, also in 2014, allowed passengers from the UK

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to claim for delays longer than three hours

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up to six years after the event.

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That should have helped Richard and Margaret Rose claim for

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a seven-hour delay that they had flying home from Madeira in 2011.

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Given the delay, inconvenience and distress that had been caused,

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I saw no reason why we shouldn't put the claim in.

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Richard had initially complained to airline Jet2 in 2013.

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On that occasion, when the dreaded words "extraordinary circumstances"

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had been used to dismiss his compensation claim,

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the delay had been put down to

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an "unexpected flight safety shortcoming".

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But Richard was encouraged by the court ruling

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that technical faults should not routinely constitute

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those "extraordinary circumstances".

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So he wrote to the airline again,

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and this time, it had a different justification

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for rejecting his claim.

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Now, the delay had apparently been caused by - you guessed it -

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a "hidden manufacturing defect".

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But Richard was not convinced.

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It rapidly became clear to me

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that this was some kind of a technical defence

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which the airline was proposing to rely upon

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to avoid paying out the compensation.

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Getting nowhere, Richard instructed a firm of specialist solicitors

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to deal with his claim.

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It was getting technical,

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so I decided to pass it over to the experts.

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It is well over two years now since I started the claim.

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I still have nothing to show for it.

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We've heard from plenty more delayed passengers

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who've had similar experiences trying to get compensation

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from a variety of airlines.

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In part, the hold-up resolving their claims

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was down to one big-name airline

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fighting back against the courts' decisions.

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Ryanair argued that its own terms and conditions,

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which said passengers can't claim for a delay

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more than two years after it happened,

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trumped the EU's ruling that said you could do it for six.

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But in August of last year, it lost its case.

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The law is now pretty clear -

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if your flight arrives three hours or more late,

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and it's not because of a very limited number

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of extraordinary circumstances,

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then the airline owes you compensation.

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Even so, in the months since that latest court decision,

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the lawyers working in this field have told us

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they've still seen little change in the attitude of many airlines,

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and they've had to issue hundreds of court proceedings

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in order for passengers to get any compensation.

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But, for both of the cases that we spoke to,

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there's been good news -

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Jet2 has finally resolved the case of Richard and Margaret,

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and agreed to pay compensation.

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And when we contacted Thomson

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about Janet and Les's five-and-a-half-hour delay,

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thanks to those broken loos,

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it said it "operates a fair and thorough process

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"to deal with EU delay claims"

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and that, having reviewed Janet and Les' case,

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it has now paid their claim.

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Though that's a welcome relief,

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Janet and Les say it's been a long, hard slog

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to get the compensation they feel they were entitled to all along.

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I think the companies should abide by this new legislation,

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not try and bamboozle people with technical terms.

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Perhaps if more of us did actually make a stand,

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then the company would have to change its ways.

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During the course of the series, we've had plenty of advice

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to keep you out of trouble and save you money

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when you arrive at your holiday destination.

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But the unexpected demands on your pocket can start long before that -

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in fact, before you've even set foot on the plane.

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Airports are big business -

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huge money-making machines,

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with a captive market of people who have time on their hands

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and money in their pockets to spend, spend, spend.

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And, with passenger numbers going up,

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clearly there's the potential for businesses located here

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to make a lot of money.

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But airports are also very expensive buildings to run,

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and to keep going, they need to find plenty of ways to generate cash

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which is why, in recent years, charges have started to creep in

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for all manner of things that were previously free.

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And while the sums involved may not be huge

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- usually just the odd pound here and there -

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all those little extras can quickly add up,

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making quite a dent in your holiday spending money

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before you've even left the country.

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Phyllis Tyson from Harrogate got in touch with us

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to complain that her local airport, Leeds Bradford,

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now charges £3 just to be dropped off outside the terminal,

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although there is a free "hour zone" car park

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just a few minutes' walk away.

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And once inside, there's another little charge to pay.

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Using a trolley for your bags will cost you £1

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that you won't get back.

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Phyllis' e-mail got us wondering

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how many of these little extras at airports

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are now becoming standard charges we should expect to pay,

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and, indeed, whether they're a peculiarly British thing,

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or will we find the same costs at airports around the world?

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To help us see how our airports compare to those in other countries,

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we enlisted the help of globetrotter Chris Barstow.

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He's clocked up nearly 170,000 miles in the last year,

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flying around the world for both business and pleasure,

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and he always keeps an eye on what he spends.

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I've noticed in the last few years

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that airports seem to be charging more money

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for things that they didn't used to,

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and I found myself spending a lot more money at airports as a result.

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I think, as a frequent traveller, I feel a little bit let down

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by some of the airports in the UK,

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because I feel like I'm spending a lot of money

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that I would want to spend in my destination

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just at the airport.

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So we asked Chris to keep track of the extra costs he's racking up

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on his next set of travels.

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Though by no means an exhaustive worldwide study,

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his various stops may give us a snapshot as to whether UK airports

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really do charge more than the rest of the world.

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So I'd really like to find that consumers aren't being exploited,

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but I have a feeling they might be.

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The first destination that Chris contacts us from is Brunei,

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7,000 miles from the UK.

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I'm currently in Brunei, on the gorgeous island of Borneo.

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Been travelling for a long time to get here.

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It's been really hot today as well,

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but just cooling down here in the evening,

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so just relaxing with a cocktail by the pool.

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Brunei feels a world away from Manchester,

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where Chris flew from,

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and where he was cheesed off by one of those charges

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we'd heard about at Leeds Bradford.

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I found in Manchester Airport, you had to pay to use the trolleys,

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which I found incredible.

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If you've just come off a flight,

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you don't want to be worrying about finding loose change

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just to use a trolley.

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Chris's next airport stop was Stansted.

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I was dropped off at Stansted Airport by a friend

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and it cost £2.50 just to drop me off,

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which I thought was a ridiculous charge.

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Stansted will charge you for a trolley, too,

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but here, the money is at least refunded when you return it,

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unlike at Manchester, where you don't get your pound back,

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and at Luton and Bristol, both of which keep their £2 trolley fee.

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Fly from Heathrow or Glasgow, however,

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and you'll get the pleasure of a trolley absolutely free.

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Meanwhile, on his most recent stops,

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Chris found other charges he didn't like, too.

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What I found in Manchester Airport and Stansted Airport

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is that you only get one hour of Wi-Fi free, so again,

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if you've just arrived in the country

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and don't have a SIM card for a UK phone,

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you can end up spending a lot of money.

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Chris's journey then took him to Milan,

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home to some of the world's biggest fashion houses.

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So how do its airport costs stack up?

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In Milan, I used two airports -

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didn't have to pay any charges for trolleys or Wi-Fi,

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so that was a pretty positive experience there.

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After a brief stopover in Italy,

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Chris touched down in the major international airport

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of Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia.

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Nearly 50 million passengers pass through there every year.

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But will they need to have some extra change handy?

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I had an 11-hour flight from Milan to Kuala Lumpur,

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but I was pretty pleased to find

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that almost everything in Kuala Lumpur is free -

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free trolleys, free Wi-Fi, so it was a good experience, really.

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It was a really good welcome to the country.

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Travel writer Lisa Francesca Nand

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has been keeping an eye on the rise and rise

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of the costs appearing at airports,

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and she's not impressed by some of them, either.

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I mean, how can you charge someone to drop someone off and pick them up

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when it might take only up to 30 seconds?

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The thing is, they can get away with it -

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we're a captive audience.

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Airports are actually private businesses and, unfortunately,

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that means that they can charge as much as they like.

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They want to earn as much money out of us as possible.

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It does feel very unfair.

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The UK's 24 international airports have quite a range of other charges

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you've told us that you think are unreasonable.

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At Bristol, you'll be charged £1 for weighing your luggage

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if you use one of their special weighing machines.

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Belfast, Aberdeen and Leeds Bradford

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all charge smokers £1 to use their smoking shelter.

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Several airports will charge you an airport development fee

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to help fund further development there - that'll cost you £10

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flying from Norwich,

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whereas a trip via Durham will set you back

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a £6 so-called "passenger facility" fee.

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And while you may not be able to avoid some of these charges,

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it may soften the blow if you at least know they're coming.

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I'd love to say that excessive airport charges

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are going to change but, unfortunately,

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I really don't think they're going to.

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Back on the trail with Chris

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and he's made the more than 2,000-mile journey

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from Borneo to Perth in Australia,

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where he hits his first "extra" charge since leaving the UK,

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and it's for something all too familiar.

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It wasn't ideal to discover that you had to pay to use a trolley.

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Um...4 is about...just under £2,

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so it's an annoying charge to have to pay after a long flight.

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One advantage, though, that they have in Australia

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is that your can pay by credit card,

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which means, even if you don't have local currency,

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you can still pay the charge,

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but obviously it's not great having to pay extra money

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when you're at the airport.

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Over 2,500 miles across the country, in Brisbane,

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those pesky luggage charges remain.

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In fact, they're standard in most Australian airports.

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Now, obviously, neither we nor Chris

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have visited every airport in the world,

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and while the UK does seem to have more of them

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than anywhere else on Chris's route,

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it's reassuring that it's not just here

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where those extra charges are taking off.

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But we asked the Airport Operators Association,

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which represents UK airports,

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why we're increasingly having to pay them.

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It told us that without the "modest, generally optional" fees,

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airports would have to levy higher landing fees on airlines,

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which would lead to higher air fares

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and make air travel less accessible for millions of people.

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And while reiterating that the charges are usually less than £5,

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it insisted that customer surveys suggest that passengers

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are happier than ever with UK airports.

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But from his latest stop in Australia,

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Chris wouldn't entirely agree.

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Small they may be, but to him,

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these charges remain an annoying inconvenience,

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especially if you don't know they're coming.

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I know that airports have to make a profit,

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I think that's understandable, but I also think it's important

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that consumers know how much they have to pay for certain services,

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and also that they shouldn't be exploited.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain -

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can you still bag a bargain in airport duty-free shops?

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Or could you find a better price a lot closer to home?

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Don't just fall for the fact

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that it says it's a bargain, you're saving money.

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You may find you're making no saving

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or even spending more than you need to.

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One of the travel issues you contact us about most

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is that of problems to do with flights,

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whether they've been delayed, cancelled,

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or there's been a mistake with your booking.

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I must say, it can put a real dampener on your whole trip.

0:21:530:21:56

And then getting some airlines to listen to your complaint

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can be a challenge in itself that would test, I think,

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even the most patient amongst us.

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Several of you brought your complaints on this

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to our pop-up shop which we held in Nottingham last summer,

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and our travel expert, Simon Calder,

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was on hand to give some terrific face-to-face advice.

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Over one weekend, we set up a one-stop consumer advice clinic,

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where we and our experts were on hand

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to talk about all manner of travel issues.

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-With one team of experts...

-Ready and able to help...

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The pop-up shop is ready for business, and it's open.

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So, come on in, everybody, yes.

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One of the first through the door to see Simon Calder

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was Marlene Moss.

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She wasn't able to book the seats she wanted on a flight to Spain.

0:22:440:22:48

She was a given an explanation she couldn't quite believe.

0:22:480:22:51

As you'll see, nor indeed could Simon.

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-Hello, Marlene.

-Hello.

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I gather that the dreaded health and safety have been at you, have they?

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-I believe that's it, yes.

-Well, what's the problem, then?

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We wanted to pre-book seats for a flight.

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We went to the agent to book -

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"Can we have row six, middle seat and aisle seat?"

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I'm not keen on a window seat, my husband isn't either.

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They said we couldn't do that because they were not...

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We'd got to have a window seat and a middle seat

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because they are not allowed to leave a window seat free,

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-for health and safety reasons.

-For health and safety?

-Yes.

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Did they explain what precisely were the health and safety issues?

0:23:270:23:31

-No.

-This is outrageous.

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Clearly, they are in the business of telling complete porky pies to you

0:23:330:23:38

-in order to make more money.

-This is what we thought, because...

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The only rule that applies is the Civil Aviation Authority rule,

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saying we've all got to be able to get out of that plane

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in 90 seconds flat, and we're going to be able to do that

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whether or not the window seat is occupied.

0:23:510:23:53

So health and safety - that is absolute tosh.

0:23:530:23:56

Let me tell you what they're trying to do.

0:23:560:23:58

-Me and Angela are off on our holidays again.

-Again?

0:23:580:24:01

-We're sitting in...

-Where are we going this time?

0:24:010:24:03

So, we're sitting in row 6C and 6B.

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That seat is empty.

0:24:050:24:07

The company will not be able to sell that seat,

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because it's a single seat on its own,

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and most people going on holidays

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are going to be going together, aren't we?

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And so, therefore, it's a purely money-making thing.

0:24:170:24:19

They're hoping that you and Angela will be together in 6A and 6B,

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so that they can sell me 6C, and my companion is in 6D,

0:24:240:24:29

and they just want to make more money.

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And for them to blame health and safety

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is an absolute outrage,

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and I would urge you to go back to the travel agent and say,

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"Can you please show me the health and safety regulation

0:24:390:24:42

"to which you refer?"

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And of course, they won't be able to, and just say,

0:24:440:24:46

"Can you be a bit more respectful of your customers next time, please?"

0:24:460:24:49

-Yeah.

-What are you going to do the next time you book a seat?

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-Don't pay money...

-I don't think we'll book, to be quite honest.

0:24:530:24:55

-No.

-Don't pay money.

-You just take pot luck,

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-and sort it out.

-On a short flight, yes.

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Some people will even pay money NOT to be next to their husband.

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LAUGHTER

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Well, I wasn't going to say that, but you can.

0:25:050:25:07

But it wasn't just flight problems our experts were advising on.

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Holiday journalist Lisa Francesca Nand

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was checking to see whether passing shoppers were clued up

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on how to avoid accommodation scams when booking online.

0:25:170:25:21

-Have you ever booked online?

-Yeah, a couple of times.

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-And do you feel safe?

-Yeah, pretty safe.

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What about if you're not booking a package?

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What about if you're booking a private villa?

0:25:280:25:30

I don't know, I usually book separately anyway when I do it.

0:25:300:25:34

So how do you actually check if the villa is real?

0:25:340:25:36

Well, there's several things you can do,

0:25:360:25:38

and I think, really, you need to become your own private detective.

0:25:380:25:42

You could get online, use one of the map services,

0:25:420:25:45

and see what the local area looks like.

0:25:450:25:46

Check that the villa's there, because some people have gone

0:25:460:25:49

and the villa doesn't exist. Look for the owner online,

0:25:490:25:52

and see whether he or she has had anything come up about them,

0:25:520:25:55

cos you could find one of these scams where people pretend to be

0:25:550:25:59

the hotel or the villa and they're not,

0:25:590:26:01

they're actually someone else's website,

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and then you pay them, and then your money's gone.

0:26:030:26:06

£2.2 million was lost last year through holiday scams,

0:26:060:26:09

with the average scam being about £900 worth,

0:26:090:26:12

so it's big business and you do have to be really, really careful.

0:26:120:26:16

And Simon also had some great tips

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on when it's best to book your trip away.

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Simon, I'd like you to meet Jack and Molly.

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They're about to go travelling.

0:26:260:26:28

Oh, fantastic - where are you going?

0:26:280:26:30

We're not quite sure yet, are we?

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Hopefully somewhere in Spain, or maybe one of the Greek islands.

0:26:310:26:35

-We want somewhere hot.

-Nice and hot.

0:26:350:26:37

What time of year are you going?

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October - the first week of October.

0:26:390:26:41

OK, very good timing, because you're going to find

0:26:410:26:44

that anywhere in the Mediterranean, you've got wonderfully warm sea

0:26:440:26:48

because it's been cooking all summer, basically,

0:26:480:26:50

you haven't got crowds, and you've got great deals,

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cos you've gone in between the end of the main school summer holidays

0:26:520:26:56

and the October half-term.

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That time of year, you've got to go fairly well south,

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so Crete would be great, and the Costa Del Sol.

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If you want more guarantee of good weather, then further south,

0:27:040:27:08

so maybe down to Essaouira in Morocco, or the Canaries.

0:27:080:27:13

If you're going off peak, you're going to get great value,

0:27:130:27:15

maybe as little as £200 for a week.

0:27:150:27:18

What you need to do, because of the timing that you've got,

0:27:180:27:21

hold your nerve, watch the prices.

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I wouldn't even begin to start looking

0:27:230:27:25

until maybe the beginning of September.

0:27:250:27:28

How does that sound?

0:27:280:27:29

Very good. I want to go now.

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LAUGHTER

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You know, snapping up a last-minute bargain

0:27:350:27:38

at the airport duty-free shop before you fly

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is a real holiday ritual for many of us, including me -

0:27:400:27:44

as much a part of jetting off as packing your suitcase

0:27:440:27:46

and remembering to take your passport.

0:27:460:27:48

But are you really getting the great deal you think you are?

0:27:480:27:51

Well, after comparing some prices,

0:27:510:27:53

I'm afraid we can tell you the answer is, no, not always.

0:27:530:27:56

And, you know, with some products, you might even be better off

0:27:560:27:59

buying them on the high street.

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For many of us, the duty-free shop is where the holiday really starts.

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Since the first one opened its doors in 1947,

0:28:060:28:09

they quickly developed a reputation

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for being a place to pick up pre-flight bargains,

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with perfumes, jewellery, booze and tobacco

0:28:140:28:16

all at reduced prices,

0:28:160:28:18

leaving us with a bit of extra spending money in our pockets.

0:28:180:28:21

But over the years, what "duty free" actually means has totally changed

0:28:210:28:25

and these days, not everything filling those airport shelves

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is quite the bargain you might think.

0:28:280:28:31

So, with all that competition from other retailers,

0:28:310:28:34

how much of what we see in the duty-free shops

0:28:340:28:36

is really such a good deal?

0:28:360:28:39

I feel people shop in duty free because they think it's cheaper.

0:28:390:28:43

I think we're getting a good deal.

0:28:430:28:45

Every time we've gone, it's always been a good deal, going out,

0:28:450:28:48

and we always buy gifts for one another when we're coming back.

0:28:480:28:52

Yeah, I go shopping at duty free to buy tobacco, roll-up tobacco.

0:28:520:28:56

It's usually generally cheaper.

0:28:560:28:57

I have ended up buying something that I wouldn't normally buy

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because of the price.

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For decades, duty-free stores were packed with genuine bargains,

0:29:020:29:06

and that's because, as the products they sold

0:29:060:29:08

were intended to be consumed outside of the UK,

0:29:080:29:11

the Government deemed them exempt from the usual taxes and fees.

0:29:110:29:15

But in 1999, all that changed -

0:29:150:29:18

these kind of savings were no longer available to everyone.

0:29:180:29:21

From then on, if you were travelling anywhere within the EU,

0:29:210:29:25

you would now have to pay these taxes, or duties,

0:29:250:29:28

just as you would in a normal high-street shop.

0:29:280:29:31

Travellers were only now able to purchase products

0:29:310:29:34

that were truly tax free or duty free

0:29:340:29:36

if they were flying outside of the EU -

0:29:360:29:39

say, to the States.

0:29:390:29:40

But many still assume we're getting the same savings we always did,

0:29:400:29:44

especially because so many of the items are sold

0:29:440:29:46

at what's claimed to be very competitive prices.

0:29:460:29:49

Today, duty-free shops make a lot of noise

0:29:510:29:53

about their special offers and their special deals.

0:29:530:29:56

But when we're doing our shopping, how much should we put in our basket

0:29:560:30:00

and how much should we leave on the shelf?

0:30:000:30:02

Personal finance expert, Sarah Pennells,

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understands how tricky it can be to work out which are the best deals.

0:30:050:30:09

I think, for a lot of us, by the time we get to the airport,

0:30:090:30:12

we're already in holiday mode,

0:30:120:30:13

we feel like our holiday has started.

0:30:130:30:15

And when you're going through the airport shops,

0:30:150:30:18

you see all those signs saying,

0:30:180:30:19

"You're saving money, it's duty free."

0:30:190:30:21

But just bear in mind, just because the sign says

0:30:210:30:23

you're saving a tenner or whatever and it's a real bargain

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doesn't actually mean it's the case.

0:30:260:30:28

So we put Sarah's theory to the test, and went duty-free shopping.

0:30:300:30:34

We compared the prices of some well-known brands on sale

0:30:340:30:37

at World Duty Free - the UK's leading duty-free retailer -

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with what you'd pay for the same items online

0:30:400:30:43

or on the high street. So, which would work out cheaper?

0:30:430:30:46

Take this designer men's fragrance.

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At duty free, on the day we checked,

0:30:500:30:52

it was on offer for £34.25.

0:30:520:30:54

That was described as a discounted price,

0:30:540:30:57

but we found it cheaper at Tesco, where it was £28,

0:30:570:31:01

£6.25 less than in the duty-free shop,

0:31:010:31:05

which, for some of you, came as quite a shock.

0:31:050:31:07

It's surprising, cos whenever you go to duty free,

0:31:070:31:10

you expect it to be a lot cheaper.

0:31:100:31:11

That's a big saving.

0:31:110:31:13

Next, we compared some of the deals on big-name alcohol brands.

0:31:130:31:17

Pushing the boat out with this well-known champagne,

0:31:170:31:20

when we checked, would cost you £42.49 at duty free.

0:31:200:31:25

But swap the airport for Sainsbury's,

0:31:250:31:27

and the same size bottle was on sale for £37,

0:31:270:31:30

more than a fiver cheaper.

0:31:300:31:32

That is a significant difference.

0:31:320:31:35

I'm surprised, to be honest.

0:31:350:31:36

You'd think it would be cheaper at duty free.

0:31:360:31:38

But that's not the case.

0:31:380:31:39

This big-name liqueur - £16.49 at duty free,

0:31:390:31:43

but just £12 at Tesco - a saving of £4.49.

0:31:430:31:48

Yeah, it's a lot cheaper, isn't it?

0:31:480:31:50

That's a massive saving.

0:31:500:31:51

And it wasn't just the supermarkets

0:31:510:31:53

that could beat the duty-free stores.

0:31:530:31:56

This men's scent was on offer at duty free

0:31:560:31:59

with a discounted price tag of £37.55.

0:31:590:32:02

But Boots had the same fragrance on offer at £31.50 -

0:32:020:32:06

that's over £6 cheaper.

0:32:060:32:09

Wow. Wow. A lot cheaper, eh?

0:32:090:32:12

But perhaps the most surprising offer we came across

0:32:120:32:14

was for this luxury brand of gin.

0:32:140:32:17

Buying it at the duty-free shop for £24.99

0:32:170:32:20

would, according to the price tag,

0:32:200:32:22

save us £6.25 on the average high-street cost.

0:32:220:32:26

But on the day we checked,

0:32:260:32:27

all the six biggest supermarket chains

0:32:270:32:29

were selling it cheaper -

0:32:290:32:30

in one case, for just £18.

0:32:300:32:33

That's £6.99 less than in duty free.

0:32:330:32:35

But our research did also throw up

0:32:380:32:39

some genuine bargains on offer at World Duty Free.

0:32:390:32:42

This ladies' scent, for example -

0:32:420:32:44

the cheapest high-street price we could find it for was £64.

0:32:440:32:48

But in duty free, it was nearly £20 less, at £44.95.

0:32:480:32:54

Likewise, this men's eau de toilette was £9.90 cheaper at duty free

0:32:540:32:59

than anywhere else we checked.

0:32:590:33:00

And other sure-fire duty-free winners are cigarettes and tobacco.

0:33:000:33:05

Because of the health risks,

0:33:050:33:06

these products carry a lot of government duty

0:33:060:33:09

to discourage us from smoking.

0:33:090:33:11

But once that duty's removed,

0:33:110:33:12

if you're taking them outside of the EU,

0:33:120:33:14

you're likely to make big savings.

0:33:140:33:17

As an example, on the day we checked, World Duty Free

0:33:170:33:20

was selling 200 Lambert & Butler king size cigarettes for £57

0:33:200:33:25

to anyone travelling outside of the EU,

0:33:250:33:28

but the cheapest we could find them for elsewhere was £84.64.

0:33:280:33:33

When we asked World Duty Free about our findings,

0:33:340:33:37

the store told us that,

0:33:370:33:38

while supermarkets and high-street retailers

0:33:380:33:41

might lay on "limited time only" low-price deals,

0:33:410:33:44

with prices fluctuating over time,

0:33:440:33:46

a duty-free retailer is able to offer

0:33:460:33:49

"fantastic value consistently all year".

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It said in a retail landscape

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dominated by the "tactical discounting" of big stores,

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it doesn't claim its products will always be the cheapest,

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but compares its prices to the usual ones on the high street,

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when specific products are not on promotion.

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And it said our checks,

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done in the week of Black Friday in November,

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were at a high point of the year for discounting,

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when high-street prices "change on a daily basis".

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The store went on to say that under its price promise,

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it will refund the difference

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if you find identical goods cheaper on the high street

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within 28 days.

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So, should we spend or save at the airport?

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Sarah Pennells has this advice to help you decide

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whether what you're about to buy is a true bargain or not.

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Next time you're going on holiday,

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I'd say that you should do all your research

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before you get to the airport, if you can.

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Check the prices of things that you buy regularly,

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so you know whether you're actually making a saving.

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Don't buy something just because you're in the airport

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and you're already in holiday mode.

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You can always check the prices

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using your smartphone in the airport

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and, for goodness' sake, don't just fall for the fact

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that it says it's a bargain and you're saving money.

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You may find you're making no saving,

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or even spending more than you need to.

0:35:020:35:05

Our travel expert, Simon Calder, is sharing his top tips

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on favourite destinations across the globe.

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This time - Turkey.

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It's one of the great crossroads of the world,

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where Asia meets Europe,

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and, on an average day, an astonishing 100,000 visitors arrive

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from abroad to enjoy the beaches, culture, and fabulous food.

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Before you're allowed on the plane to Turkey, you'll need one of these.

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It's an e-visa and it costs 20 US dollars - that's about £13 or £14 -

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but it's quick and easy to apply for online.

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But beware - there's lots of unofficial sites

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that could charge you an awful lot more.

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For instance, I've just tapped "visa Turkey" into a search engine,

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and the very first result is an agent

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that wants to charge me five times the going rate.

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So make sure you're dealing with the official Republic of Turkey.

0:36:040:36:08

Once you've made it onto Turkish soil,

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it's worth seeing more than just the sea.

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Forget those organised, expensive package excursions

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and, instead, do it yourself with the help of Turkey's very efficient,

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reliable and clean intercity buses.

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They're also very cheap.

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Take the 75-minute journey from the resort of Kusadasi

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to the intriguing city of Izmir.

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It costs less than £4, you'll get in-bus movies,

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an attendant will bring you drinks and snacks.

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You might even get free Wi-Fi.

0:36:430:36:46

Izmir is Turkey's third-largest city,

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with plenty to keep you busy on a day trip,

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and there's one sight that won't cost you a single penny.

0:36:520:36:56

Tired of pounding the streets?

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Achieve some altitude with the help of the beautiful Asansor.

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This century-old lift is free to ride and, at the top,

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provides some of the finest views of the city.

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We're back at our pop-up shop.

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Next in line to see our travel expert Simon Calder

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were Sam and Jenny Smith.

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They came to see if Simon could shed any further light

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on why, after paying extra to pre-book seats

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on a flight to New York,

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they HADN'T got the ones they were expecting.

0:37:340:37:37

We paid £26 each way, each,

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which worked out at £104, and we selected our seat

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from a configuration they'd got on the internet.

0:37:450:37:47

They looked to be near to the bulkhead,

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and we thought, whilst it's not an extra-legroom seat,

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normally there's that little extra where you can turn your ankles

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a bit on a long flight.

0:37:580:37:59

We went down to Heathrow, got on the plane,

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and they showed us to our seat,

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and instead of getting on this lovely bulkhead seat,

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we were in the row behind.

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At the end of the day, we paid this money, £104 -

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we didn't get what we'd booked.

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I would never, ever pay a penny

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to sit in a particular seat on a plane.

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I know I've got my ticket,

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so unless it's overbooked, I know I'm going to get a seat.

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Mind you, if you are going to book your seats,

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and I know lots of people want to do,

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pay attention to the seat charts.

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I've actually had a look at the plane you were on.

0:38:300:38:33

You were trying to book those seats there, D and E,

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but, in fact, you were booking them in the row behind.

0:38:380:38:41

They've drawn little, tiny black faint lines,

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which, with your magnifying glass, you'll be able to see.

0:38:440:38:46

So you thought you had those ones. In fact, you had those ones.

0:38:460:38:50

When the airline eventually got back to you,

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and said you can't have any money back because that's what you booked,

0:38:520:38:55

they were right.

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Just suppose you'd been going for some extra-legroom seats,

0:38:570:39:00

you would have had to pay an awful lot more than £26.

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The going rate at the moment is about £50 for those seats.

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So, I think you can just put it down to experience, I'm afraid.

0:39:060:39:09

Buyer beware, and of course, you have the prerogative

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to take your money elsewhere.

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Thankfully, the route you flew on, London to New York,

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is the most competitive

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international air route in the world,

0:39:190:39:21

and there's about eight great airlines

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that will take you on the same journey.

0:39:230:39:26

But Simon had more positive news for Caroline Murphy,

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who came in with the same problem

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we heard about earlier in the programme.

0:39:330:39:35

She'd been left out of pocket

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when a flight home from Turkey was delayed.

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It was a couple of years ago, on the way back.

0:39:390:39:42

We got onto the plane and we were on the plane for nearly two hours.

0:39:420:39:47

-Was it a UK airline?

-It was, yeah.

0:39:470:39:50

OK, that's good news so far. So, tell us what happened.

0:39:500:39:52

They sat us in the airport for nearly two hours again.

0:39:520:39:56

So the plane was broken, you sat on it like lemons.

0:39:560:39:59

-Yeah.

-They eventually said, "Right, everybody off.

0:39:590:40:02

"We'll put you in the terminal, still trying to fix the thing..."

0:40:020:40:04

They gave us some food,

0:40:040:40:07

then eventually they got us into a hotel,

0:40:070:40:09

-which was, like, one in the morning.

-Oh, no!

0:40:090:40:12

We were just exhausted, and I was a day late for work.

0:40:120:40:16

-So you missed a day's work?

-I did, yeah.

0:40:160:40:18

OK, so the airline then came around

0:40:180:40:19

and gave you your compensation, I presume?

0:40:190:40:21

No, I didn't get nothing.

0:40:210:40:23

-Because...

-Didn't even get a letter of apology.

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Well, you can expect quite a lot more than that.

0:40:260:40:29

If it's a delay caused by a technical problem,

0:40:290:40:32

the law absolutely, strictly says

0:40:320:40:34

they owe you compensation,

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as long as you're either flying from an EU airport,

0:40:360:40:39

which you weren't, or you're on an EU airline, which you were,

0:40:390:40:44

so they owe you 400 euros for that.

0:40:440:40:47

-Right!

-It doesn't matter too much if you haven't still got the ticket,

0:40:470:40:50

as long as you've got some record of having made the trip,

0:40:500:40:53

so well worth doing, they owe you the money,

0:40:530:40:56

and, clearly, they didn't tell you about it, but it's yours to claim.

0:40:560:41:01

Good luck with it, and don't give up. It's your money.

0:41:010:41:04

Yeah, it is. Thank you very much.

0:41:040:41:06

If you want any extra information about how to deal with

0:41:080:41:11

problems that you've had with a flight, say, or an airline,

0:41:110:41:14

whether you think they're trying

0:41:140:41:15

to dodge the compensation you think you're due,

0:41:150:41:18

or you feel that you haven't been treated fairly,

0:41:180:41:20

there's plenty of very useful advice on our website...

0:41:200:41:23

..where you'll also find information

0:41:260:41:28

on some of the other issues that our experts tackled at our pop-up shop.

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If you have a story you'd like us to investigate,

0:41:380:41:40

then get in touch with us via our Facebook page,

0:41:400:41:45

our website,

0:41:450:41:49

or e-mail us.

0:41:490:41:54

Or, if you want to send us a letter,

0:41:540:41:56

then our address is...

0:41:560:41:58

Well, as someone who can never resist

0:42:100:42:13

a bit of retail therapy at the airport -

0:42:130:42:14

in fact, these were bought on the way out here -

0:42:140:42:17

I was really interested to see that I might get a better bargain

0:42:170:42:19

at the supermarket rather than at duty free.

0:42:190:42:22

But, I suppose, in a way, I shouldn't be surprised

0:42:220:42:25

because, at the airport, we're a kind of captive market, aren't we?

0:42:250:42:28

So, I suppose it begs the question -

0:42:280:42:29

why would they always give us the better bargain, anyway?

0:42:290:42:32

And the other thing is that it just goes to show what we always say -

0:42:320:42:35

don't take everything at face value.

0:42:350:42:37

And, of course, smartphones and tablets

0:42:370:42:39

mean that we can ALL do our own price comparisons these days

0:42:390:42:42

right on the spot, so it's easy to see

0:42:420:42:44

when you're REALLY making a saving.

0:42:440:42:46

Well, I'm afraid that's about it from us for today,

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but please do keep all your letters and e-mails coming.

0:42:480:42:50

And, of course, let us know if, in spite of what the courts have ruled,

0:42:500:42:54

an airline tries to deny you compensation after a lengthy delay.

0:42:540:42:58

Well, as I say, that's where we have to leave it for today,

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but we will be back investigating even more of your stories very soon,

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-so until then, from all of us, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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