Episode 2 The Housing Enforcers


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Hello, can you just let me in?

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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live.

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I wouldn't keep my dog there, is the honest truth.

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But for thousands of people across the UK,

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the reality can be more hovel than home.

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The house is falling to bits. There's nothing I can do.

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In the battle for decent housing...

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We've just got conditions that are just appalling.

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I don't know how the people are coping, to be quite honest.

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..it's local housing officers who are on the front line.

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If somebody had died here,

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you would've been standing in Coroner's Court.

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I'm Matt Allwright and I'm back with the housing enforcers.

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15 people in this house?

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15 people total living in here.

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I'll be with them as they tackle problem properties

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and slum conditions...

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It really does look shanty town.

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Yeah, it's not up to standard.

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..as they deal with dodgy landlords, nightmare neighbours

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and everything in-between...

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Oh, my God. Straight away there's the smell of dog muck.

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You never know what you're going to find.

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..doing their best to help those in need of a happy

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and healthy home.

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Oh, my God, Ted!

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Today, a tiny leak turns into an epic flood...

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I've got them in my shoes! I had no idea it was this bad.

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Yeah, I know, mate.

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Ted, you should've told us about it as soon as you got the leak.

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..a dispute over planning regulations puts lives in danger...

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At the moment, there are offences under the Housing Act in this property.

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The spiral staircase should never have been put in in the first place.

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No, that's entirely untrue, I'm afraid.

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We had regular inspections when I put all this in.

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When was the last time you heard anyone

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use the phrase "slum landlord"?

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Not that recently, right?

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Well, that's because we live in a country with laws that make sure

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housing meets basic standards.

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And it's not just landlords -

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there are laws that mean that tenants need to behave too.

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I'm working alongside the men and women from councils

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across the UK who enforce those laws.

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They are the Housing Enforcers.

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There are times in life when we all need a helping hand.

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But one of the hardest things facing the UK's housing officers

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is striking a balance between giving tenants help and getting them

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to take responsibility for themselves

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before things get out of hand.

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It's a dilemma Babergh Council's Ian Watson deals with every day.

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How do you do this, though?

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Are you trying to just stick to the book and do your job,

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or do you have to relate to people and try and understand

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their situation?

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You've got to be able to listen, you know,

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and that's one of the most important things, listening.

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It's just trying to get, you know, to the root cause of the problem

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and it's sometimes just getting those people to realise that

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you're actually there to help them rather than hinder them.

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Some people need more help than others.

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Ian's had a call from Sudbury about water coming from

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the ground-floor flat of a tenant he's known for a long time.

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I'm a little bit concerned because the gentleman did leave

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one of our other properties in rather a mess.

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I did get the tenant ring me back

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and say he was trying to sort it out himself, but obviously

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we need to get in there. It's our responsibility to do repairs.

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Tenant Ted Hurrell moved into the flat two years ago

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after caring for his elderly mother and battling addiction.

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I nursed her with Alzheimer's...

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..and also trying to detox from...

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..a 30-year heroin habit.

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It isn't the first time he's come to the attention

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of ex-copper Ian.

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-I never nicked you.

-No, I don't think so.

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I've never known anything that you done wrong, to be quite honest.

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Well, I was a smackhead for...

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Yeah, I know you were heavy into drugs,

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but at least you sorted yourself out, didn't you?

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All right. Well, look, we've managed to get...

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Let's go and have a look, shall we?

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Ian's barely over the threshold and he can already see

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that the situation is serious.

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Oh, my God, Ted.

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That's happened overnight.

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That's happened over a couple of nights.

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-Oh, my God, Ted.

-Yeah, I know.

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I had no idea it was this bad, Ted.

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With the whole flat under several inches of filthy water

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and Ted's possessions ruined, Ian's shocked by the scale

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of the deluge and can't understand how Ted's allowed it to get so bad.

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Ah, I've got them in my shoes.

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-Yeah, I know, mate.

-Ted, what on earth have you let...?

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Yeah, I know.

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Yeah, but, Ted, you should've told us about it

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as soon as you got the leak.

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Well, I've been backwards and forwards to Bury St Edmunds

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because I have health problems...

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..and, it's, er...

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You know, it's just got worse and worse.

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Right, I'm going to go and try and find out where

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the mains water comes in.

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Easier said than done.

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With no idea where to find the stopcock,

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Ian's forced to phone back to base for help.

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Hi, it's only Ian from Housing.

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Steve, where are the mains' stopcocks outside

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these properties so we can get the water turned off?

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Let's put it this way - the water's so deep and horrible,

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I've got it inside my shoes and I'm not best pleased.

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It seems they can't help, either.

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I just can't believe that we don't know where our stopcocks are

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for these properties, but there we go.

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They were built some time ago.

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Even more frustrating for Ian is his suspicion that

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the leak's been going on for longer than Ted's letting on.

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I came here last Tuesday

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and there was a little bit of water out the front.

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I spoke with Ted at the time and he said

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he'd washed the concrete floor down inside with a couple of buckets.

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What sounds like it could've been a small repair

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has now left the council facing a full-scale clean-up operation.

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The water is actually coming down below the dampcourse.

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That's going to take some considerable time

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to dry this property out.

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And it's left Ted with nowhere to live.

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I've spoken with the Homeless team and we haven't got any units

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available for homeless at the moment.

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But with neighbours stepping in to lend a hand,

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at least music lover Ted's most valued possessions are safe.

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-We can store some bits for you.

-Yeah, well...

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At least that way it's not all over the place.

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I'm just going to run this up there.

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We'll sort him out a place somewhere.

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Whether it be one of our properties that's coming up for rent

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or something just to get him into or it may well be bed and breakfast.

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Although he's been happy just to roll up his trousers and wade,

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with the water still rising, even Ian's had to admit defeat

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and accept he's not properly equipped to deal with the problem.

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I've got everything in that I can. Need to go and get some wellies

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because I need to have a look at exactly what's going on.

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As far as he's concerned, the cluttered state of Ted's flat,

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even before the flood, hasn't helped the situation.

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If he'd only got the rubbish out the way,

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that water would've come gushing out the front of the house, I'm sure.

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It's sort of like dammed it in there.

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The water's still pouring in and it doesn't look like it'll be

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stopping any time soon.

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I've just had a phone call while I've been out getting some boots.

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Anglian Water have been contacted. They've given us

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an arrival time of any time between now and 6pm tomorrow.

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So, at this stage, I'm hoping it's going to be a lot quicker.

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So, now properly kitted and potentially facing a 24-hour wait

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for the water company, Ian decides to wade in again himself.

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At least I don't have to have my trousers pulled up this time.

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-You all right, Ted?

-Hello, there.

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All right, I'm coming back in.

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I've got some boots now, so I'll be able to see.

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I'm dreadfully sorry, mate.

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-That's all right. Look, these things happen, don't they?

-Yeah, I know.

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But the shocking condition Ted had let the flat get into

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even before the flood isn't making the situation any easier.

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I don't know what's in here, if you know what I mean.

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I don't get paid enough for this.

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With piles of clothes and old newspapers everywhere,

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the whole flat's under several inches of dirty water

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and soaking wet rubbish.

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There's a drain in here.

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If I can get the water...

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running into that drain, which it is.

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Thank God for that.

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With the blockage cleared, there's more good news.

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-Ian?

-Yeah?

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Anglian Water.

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-Oh, they're here, are they?

-Yes.

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It's going down the drain now - some of it.

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Finding the stopcock finally means that water isn't pouring

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into Ted's flat.

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But it's also created a new problem for Ian

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and the rest of the tenants.

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Unfortunately, the only stopcock to the premises outside is

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the one up there, which has turned all 12 flats off,

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which I need to get someone back as soon as possible.

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With the supply finally cut off, though,

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reinforcements from the council mean the massive clean-up

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can get under way.

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Be prepared.

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With Ted's clutter everywhere, it isn't going to be easy.

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We're going to need to clear a lot of this before we can get

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-a lot of this water out.

-Oh, Ted.

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-Right, these guys are here to start clearing up.

-Yeah.

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-Because of all the paper and everything in this...

-Yeah, yeah.

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..they aren't going to be able to use their sucker.

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I don't know. Are we going to need to get a skip here?

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I personally would think so.

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-At least if we can make a start...

-We'll make a start.

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The flat isn't going to be habitable any time soon,

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but at least there's some good news about where Ted's going to stay.

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Basically, I've just had a call from the Homeless Team.

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We've managed to get bed and breakfast for Ted tonight.

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Be careful, Ted.

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Something coming.

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It's only a couple of hundred yards away,

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so we'll get over there with his bags and take him over there now.

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Oh, dear!

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It might just be a temporary solution, but at least

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he'll be close to home.

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-Quite smart, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-You've even got coffee making facility, look.

-Yeah.

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Right.

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-OK.

-OK, you're sorted out for today.

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-OK, mate.

-All right. And good luck,

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and I'll contact you at the end of the week.

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Bye!

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It's a great result for Ian, so far.

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The hard work is only just beginning.

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The rest of the team will take over in terms of what we need to do

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with that property tomorrow. Erm, successful day, really!

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Later, I'll be lending a helping hand to bring Ted home.

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I've been trusted with the guitar, though, which is...

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-Well, you're honoured, then, aren't you?

-I'm very lucky.

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It seems he's moved in more ways than one.

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-Is it a bit of a shock? Are you all right?

-Yeah.

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In rural Lincolnshire, North Kesteven District Council

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housing officer Chris Gallimore is acting on a complaint

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from a tenant about a privately rented property

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that he claims was in such a dangerous state, he moved out.

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I think the tenant... They weren't there very long.

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They were there a few months and they moved out.

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They weren't happy with the condition of the property.

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Former tenant Jack and his girlfriend thought they'd found

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their perfect home, when they rented a picture-postcard conversion

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of an old village school.

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When we first saw this property, me and my girlfriend...

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We just fell in love with it.

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When we first moved in, it looked like a nice house.

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But before long they became concerned it was

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putting their safety at risk.

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Well, the house was a deathtrap, at the end of the day.

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I mean, there was just exposed wires,

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the spiral staircase wasn't safe up to the living room,

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the gaps in the banisters were easy enough to fall down

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and they were quite dangerous.

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And we were told that we'd be having a new fire installed,

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but again nothing come about it, so we was using the storage heaters

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which were inefficient and expensive to run.

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After three months, they decided to move out,

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but not before contacting the council.

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At the moment I don't think there's a tenant residing there,

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but there's going to be another one imminently coming in.

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So what we want to do is get some improvements made

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before the next tenant comes in.

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Chris has done some digging and thinks the safety concerns

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are actually part of a problem dating back almost two decades.

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One of the issues is that when the property was converted, it wasn't

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authorised by Building Control and it hasn't been signed off by them.

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The man responsible for the conversion is Richard Taylor.

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-Hello.

-Hi, there.

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-Chris Gallimore from the council.

-Hi.

-Pleased to meet you.

-Richard.

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Richard's daughter now owns the property

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and he's agreed to talk to Chris on her behalf.

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But it's not good news.

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One of the main issues with this property,

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after I did some research at the council, is that it wasn't actually

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-signed off - the conversion - at the time...

-Yes.

-..it was converted.

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To comply with the Building Act 1984,

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buildings must meet minimum standards for health and safety

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set out in the Government's building regulations.

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New buildings and most conversions must be signed off

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by the local authority Building Control,

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or by an approved independent inspector.

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Crucially, it's the owner's responsibility

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to ensure projects have a final certificate

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to say work meets the legal standard required.

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It's something Richard never did.

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So what I've got is a copy of the notice from Building Control,

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which is this one.

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Quite a lot of the issues that's highlighted on there are things

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that I'm kind of concerned about as well.

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17 years ago, Building Control told Richard

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the handrails weren't safe and needed to be changed.

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They weren't changed and they're still dangerous.

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The problem if you've got a gap that's less than 100 millimetres

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is a child can actually get their head stuck in it.

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And I think certainly a small child could probably fall through that gap

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with the size of it.

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It's not the only health hazard listed in Chris's copy

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of the original inspection report.

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Hazards that were never fixed.

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Just going back to the list there, another thing

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they're basically saying is that the staircase doesn't comply, either.

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And from my understanding, it is that the spiral staircase

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should never have been put in in the first place.

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No, no, that's entirely untrue, I'm afraid.

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No, we had regular inspections when I put all this in.

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I wouldn't have put in a spiral staircase without any consideration.

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If you look at this staircase, it's got very narrow tapered treads

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on the inside. You've got no proper handrail on the inside.

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You've got open risers where people can trip going up,

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the lighting isn't very good. There's a lot of issues with it.

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That's a duty of care that I've got, I understand, not you.

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Well, it's not, because it's the Housing Act 2004,

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which is a regulation.

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Known as a duty of care, landlords are legally responsible

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for preventing personal injury to tenants caused by defects

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to a property.

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But Richard doesn't seem to realise it's the council's job

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to enforce this.

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At the moment, there are offences under the Housing Act

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in this property, OK? So we wouldn't be able to allow

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a tenant come in this property at the moment.

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Later, it seems Chris will have to tread carefully

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if he wants to solve the stalemate over the staircase.

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Can I stop you there? I paid quite a bit of money for

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the building inspection on this place.

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Can you tell me why there's no record of what they've seen?

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-For Building Control?

-Yeah.

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Unfortunately, you're going to need to speak to them.

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-Maybe you should speak to them before you come to me next time.

-Yeah.

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Defending our right to a safe place to live

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is the job of housing officers right across the UK.

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-This is not really an acceptable way of leaving the property behind.

-Do you think(?)

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I'm working alongside the men and women that do exactly that.

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-Top marks.

-Yes!

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-I'm hitting the streets...

-Hello! Can you open up?

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Definitely somebody inside, because we've seen movement.

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..finding out what's happening on the front line...

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Cistern's in the bath. I don't know how they flush it.

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..and learning what it takes

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to make sure a house is fit to be called a home.

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I'm very shocked. This is ridiculous.

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You shouldn't have people living in here.

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In Suffolk, tenant Ted Hurrell's failure to report a leaky pipe

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left housing officer Ian Watson facing a full-scale flood

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and a mammoth clean-up operation.

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I don't know what's in here, if you know what I mean.

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I don't get paid enough for this!

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True to Ian's word, the flat's finished and I've come back to help Ted move back in.

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Are we all right to come in?

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Yeah, yeah.

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You should be all right back there - it's dry now.

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-I've been almost afraid to look in.

-You should be quite pleased, I hope.

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Right, do you want me to grab a couple of those?

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You could grab a couple of those.

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It looks like I get the job of moving music lover Ted's most prized possession.

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I've been trusted with the guitar, though, which is...

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-You're honoured, then, aren't you?

-I'm very lucky.

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-All right.

-Good stuff.

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-OK.

-In the back, Ted.

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-Are you all right, Ted?

-Yeah.

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'It's the first time Ted's seen the flat.'

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Go on, Ted. I'll let you go first.

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You can see what it's like then.

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'The place is completely unrecognisable.'

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So what's happened here, Ted...

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As you can see, all of your stuff, it's all clear and clean,

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all the walls have been done

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and the floor is clean, ready for something to go down.

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Yeah. I mean, oh, golly.

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Your records are here.

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Gracious me, yeah.

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'Clearly, it's all a bit overwhelming.'

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Is it a bit of a shock? Are you all right?

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Yeah.

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It's...

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It just means you can start completely from scratch.

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-Something to be proud of now, ain't there?

-It is, and...

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I swear to God that I shall endeavour to keep it this way.

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Well, I want to keep you to that cos I want to come

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and have a cup of coffee with you in your nice flat now.

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Yeah, well, I will be pleased to receive you.

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Good.

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You've done a wonderful job.

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'After all of Ian's hard work,

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'we're both determined to make sure Ted never lets things

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'get so out of hand again.'

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So this is a wet room now, OK?

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So you've got a floor that all slopes down to the drain here.

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All brand spanking new.

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Any leaks, anything like that - what are you going to do?

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Mr Watson will be informed or...

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Of course they will informed immediately.

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All right, good stuff.

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Ted, would it be all right if you and I sit down and have a little chat?

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'If there's one thing I've learnt from Ian,

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'it's the importance of being able to relate to the people you're helping.

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'And something I definitely have in common with Ted is a love of music -

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'a love that he says helped him battle his addiction.'

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It's a really nice guitar, that. It's beautiful.

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TED SINGS

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# On a dark, stormy night... #

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What does your music give you, then?

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What does that provide you with?

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Comfort.

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I need to do it to survive.

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God and music have been my salvation.

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Now I've got the chance to start again.

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'It seems that the flood hasn't just given Ted the chance to start again.

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More importantly, it's inspired him to want to.

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What were your thoughts when you walked in the door?

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Because it seemed to me you were quite emotional.

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-I was.

-Why was that? What were you thinking?

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Because I think they've done all this for you,

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and I try to think back to what I was living in before,

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you cannot... You cannot let this happen again.

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I don't want to go down on record as an unreliable tenant.

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-Yeah.

-Period.

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I want to have a nice place that I can bring people round.

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I want to come back and hear you sing happy songs.

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It's so lovely meeting you, honestly.

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And I really wish you the best. I hope it works out here, Ted.

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Yeah, I want it to work out.

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And, you know, keep playing.

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Really nice to meet you, Ted. Take care.

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'Seeing Ted so determined to take more responsibility for himself

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'means of all Ian's hard work has paid off.'

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I know you wanted to go in there and sort of remind Ted

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that, you know, for all this effort that you've put in

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and the money that's been spent, there is a responsibility.

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-I think he gets it.

-I think so.

-Do you? I mean...

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Yeah, I really do think we had a connection there with him

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and certainly you did, you know, so he's going to remember this time.

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And I won't forget it in a hurry, either.

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Well, Ian said to me that one of the key strengths

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you need as a community housing officer

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is the ability to understand somebody,

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put yourself in their shoes.

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It's never been easier for me than with someone like Ted.

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His love of music and my love of music are in exactly the same place

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but at the point where he was up to his ankles in water,

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that was almost all he had left.

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Now, that problem has been resolved

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and he's got a space that's clean and bright and warm

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and that's all thanks to Ian.

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In Lincolnshire, Chris Gallimore's been investigating claims from former tenants

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that a converted schoolhouse could be putting lives in danger.

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It's a problem that dates back nearly two decades.

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One of the main issues with this property was I actually

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signed off the conversion.

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But having converted the property himself

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it's a frustrating situation for the owner's father, Richard.

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No longer able to live there herself but still liable for council tax on the empty house

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he says the council advised his daughter to rent it out

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to cover the cost.

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They suggested that we should take in tenants,

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which is why we're here, standing here today.

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Never rented this place off.

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I think the only issue with that is, you know,

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that'd be a suggestion for them but they wouldn't necessarily know whether the property is...

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I did point out that there were exceptional circumstances

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that they could investigate if they wanted to.

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They didn't, so she's left high and dry here

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with this property that she pays rates on,

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water rates and a mortgage.

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-Yeah.

-And she can't rent it either.

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For Chris, any suggestion from the council to let the house

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would have been subject to it meeting the minimum safety standards

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for a rental property - which leaves them both with a problem.

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In its current condition, we wouldn't want it rented out to a tenant.

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However, there are things you can do to improve the property where you could rent it out to a tenant.

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And with the argument about the spiral staircase going round

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and round in circles, he decides to move on to complaints

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from the previous tenants about inadequate heating.

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Cos you've got electric heating in here,

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if at any point the electricity wasn't working

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so your secondary form of heating was the multi-fuel burner

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in the corner there,

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unfortunately, that's been condemned and it's got a sticker on it

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saying that's it's been condemned.

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The actual fire's not condemned. It's the chimney...

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Either way, it can't be used, can it, so...

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Well, you can if we mend the chimney.

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It's not a great start, and it doesn't get any better.

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The storage heaters that are in here,

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how old would you say the storage heaters are?

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About 15 years old.

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15 years, yes.

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And how do you know they're working correctly?

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Do you ever get anybody to test them, or...?

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I left here and they were working and as far as I know they haven't been used since, so...

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One of the problems, obviously, with the storage heaters is that they're

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not that good in they're not that good in poorly insulated buildings.

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Well, I actually found them very...

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The modern storage heaters actually have

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a fan in them and it actually blows the heat out.

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-You're talking a lot of money here.

-It could be, yeah.

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The cost of making this place suitable for tenants is mounting.

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Richard's adamant he was never told that the conversion didn't

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comply with building regulations, despite an inspection at the time.

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Can I stop you there?

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I played quite a bit of money for the building inspection on this place.

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Can you tell me why there is no record of what they've seen?

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-For building control?

-Yes.

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-Maybe you should speak to them before you come to me next time.

-Yeah.

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Well, Chris has already spoken to them.

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The next thing on his list is ex-tenant Jack's claims

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about potentially dangerous wiring.

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There were some issues with the electrics as well.

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I'm having the building tested next week.

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Including the appliances.

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Is it possible I can get a copy of that?

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Sure, that's what I'm doing it for. That's fine, yes.

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After what's been a difficult meeting for both parties,

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getting the electrics tested is at least one thing they can agree on.

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OK, thanks a lot for your time anyway,

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and stay in contact, and hopefully be in contact with me,

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as well, with any... Any sort of...

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I hope you appreciate my position.

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I didn't want to give you too much of a hard time.

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I'm just pressing you so I know what I'm doing, really.

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Knowing what needs to be done and being happy about it

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are two different things, though.

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I think they're making unreasonable suggestions today,

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to be quite frank.

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It's a modern problem today that health and safety

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tends to take the extreme rather than the moderate level of thinking.

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My experience has always been that they wish to spend your money a lot,

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and if you cooperate too much then they will spend more money.

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Beyond that, it just bugs me a little bit to think that that

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my duty of care extends to and stretches beyond reasonable

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expectations, to be honest with you.

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But the council has a very different view.

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To put tenants in a building that you know hasn't been approved

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as being appropriate under the regulations at the time I think is a bit irresponsible.

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The building wasn't ever signed off in the first place by

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building control and he needs to appreciate,

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if the stairs weren't safe, they're still not safe now.

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As the owner, Richard was legally responsible for rectifying

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any safety hazards

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and getting the property signed off when the house was converted.

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But, determined to keep the staircase,

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he's come up with a more radical solution.

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I'm going to consult with my daughter and then I'm going

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to move back into this.

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The thing about building regulations are,

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you can still live in the building providing you yourself stay

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there and are prepared to take the risk that you put into the

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building, which, of course, I am.

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That's it for today. Join me next time on the front line

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with Britain's housing officers.

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