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You are watching the show that fights for your rights. If you have

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been ripped off... Or the deal turns out to be dodgy... We will battle it

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out on your behalf. Excuse me, do not manhandle me! You never check

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those vehicles. We are here to fight your corner.

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We go undercover at Direct Choice, the firm which doesn't

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give customers a choice about being cold-called.

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We just keep them on the phone basically until they say yes or hang

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After 23 calls, Chris had had enough.

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If you were the last company on earth I would never, ever,

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ever buy double glazing from Direct Choice.

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Now I would suggest you get off my property now.

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And there's no peace for the fed-up family with a very

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It sounds like somebody is downstairs with a motorbike,

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This week we're in Swansea - a city well known for

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We've featured a fair few of them on X-ray in the past -

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but tonight's rogue outfit takes some beating.

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Replacing your windows is a big expense -

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double-glazing, triple glazing, UPVC - whatever you go for,

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they're not much to look at - but then that's the point!

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You're supposed to be able to see through them -

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shame then that some double glazing firms are anything but

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transparent about the way they sell their windows.

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Take this lot - Direct Choice Home Improvements Ltd.

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Their website has a picture of Conwy Castle on it -

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strange because they're actually based in Swansea.

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Direct Choice is a company that keeps getting into trouble -

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either for being less than clear with its customers, or for not

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They've been fined repeatedly - in 2015 for falsely claiming

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their windows were A+ energy efficient, last March for illegally

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cold-calling 168 people on the Telephone Preference Service

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- the register for people who don't want sales calls.

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And in October last year - a ?10,000 fine after a sales rep

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pressurised a grieving widow into signing a finance deal.

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At first he seemed very nice, he was very respectable, nicely dressed.

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The woman has agreed to tell her shocking story to X-Ray,

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but she's been so traumatised by the experience, she's asked us

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He'd discovered that my husband had died and he used that

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How my husband would really want me to have these windows.

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After first quoting ?10,000 for bay windows, the price

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dropped to eight thousand - then six.

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I said I wasn't interested and I was really getting upset.

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I went into the kitchen to get a drink of water and to try

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He said right, just before I go can I make one more phone call..

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After 'calling his office' again, he dropped the price to ?4,000.

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And, desperate to get rid of him, the woman signed the contract.

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He said you know you've done the right thing,

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your husband would be very pleased and I thought just go.

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He did finally leave and I just collapsed in a heap.

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And other customers have told us that Direct Choice sales

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reps have pressured them into buying windows too.

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Malcolm and Elizabeth Jones from Gelligaer near Caerphilly wish

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they'd never agreed to a visit nearly two years ago.

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The rep started by quoting ?15,000 - then kept dropping the price

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We said we still need time to think about it,

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so she was back on the phone and came back and offered us ?5,400.

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The couple say the sales rep stayed for around three hours until just

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She just kept pressurising to say, if you don't do it now

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tonight it's gonna go, and you're going to

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In the end we give her a cheque because we thought

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Once the rep had gone, Malcolm and Elizabeth

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They did get their ?400 deposit back, but say Direct Choice's

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First of all he said it was too late to cancel...

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this is two days after we gave her the cheque.

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here's something wrong with you, he said.

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You don't know a good deal when you see one

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I said no, please just cancel and he just slammed

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And I've discovered that Direct Choice aren't too 'choosy'

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This is one of the company's two directors, Richard Norris.

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In 2015, he employed his brother Robert.

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Trouble is, Robert's a career criminal -

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and was jailed a few months ago, for burglary.

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Not someone I'd really want in my home.

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So some pretty dubious sales tactics - but what about

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the quality of their windows, doors and conservatories?

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Allan Jones, from Merthyr Tydfil, signed up for a ?12,000 conservatory

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I had to have them back in January because they hadn't sealed the sides

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Direct Choice has repeatedly promised to fix the problems -

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but a year on, the conservatory's still leaking.

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So Allan's taken matters into his own hands.

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Here I've had to erect troughing with a drainpipe

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If I didn't have this here I'd be standing in a paddling pool.

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I wouldn't let them build a dog kennel for me now

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They've actually phoned here since to ask if I want

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I couldn't believe it, young girl it was, and I said sorry love,

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I don't talk to liars and I put the phone down.

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We thought it was time to check out those 'lies' for ourselves.

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Later in the programme, we'll show you what happened

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when one of our researchers went undercover to work in

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It's not customer services we're doing, it's not

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thanks for your time, have a lovely day, enjoy yourself...

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whatever, you know - we keep them on the phone

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until they either say yes or they put the phone down.

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And if you're unhappy with the way a company has treated you,

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After two and half years of problems...

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Michelle's not impressed with Indesit.

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The milk had curdled in the fridge, the cheese had gone soggy,

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all the meats that I keep in the fridge - everything.

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I've got five children and nobody cares.

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Now, the Six Nations tournament is under way -

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and we've had a big reaction to last week's story about a new ticketing

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are on a limited income - so they weren't impressed

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with the Welsh Rugby Union's new website, as it doesn't allow

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them to state the price of tickets they want.

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Well, many X-Ray viewers were touched by their story -

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some of you even said you'd pay for the couple's tickets.

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And the good news is, the WRU have now offered

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Jeff and Sharn tickets to the Wales-Ireland

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home game on the 10th March - and they are absolutely

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But Welsh Water's urging households earning less than ?15,000 to sign up

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to their Help U tarif, to cap bills at ?190 a year.

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Dee Valley Water runs a similar scheme -

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better than pouring money down the drain.

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It's bad news for viewers who love their greens -

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wet weather in southern Europe has affected vegetable crops,

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leading to rationing in Welsh supermarkets.

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In Tesco, it's three iceberg lettuces per customer -

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and Morrisons has limited the sale of broccoli.

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Prices in other shops have also risen.

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And until now, many rail passengers have bought split tickets to get

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the best deal on cross country train journeys.

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But this Spring, a trial on three routes across England and Scotland

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will automatically work out the cheapest price.

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If successful, the scheme will be rolled out to Wales too.

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Next, Omar has been looking into whether life really

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does mean life when it comes to guarantees.

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These days many of us are on a mission to live longer.

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And if you're hoping to live to a ripe old age,

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buying things which will last the distance with you

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I will tell you how it is going to be...

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Lifetime guarantees have been around for a while.

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Every recording as good as the first - or we'll give you a new tape!

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30 years on, not many of us are watching VHS tapes.

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But on the High Street, a growing number of brands

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are pulling in the punters with goods they say

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But what does lifetime really mean? Let's see what

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If anything goes wrong with it you should get a replacement

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or your money back or something like that I should imagine.

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Unlimited, if it says lifetime, lifetime means lifetime.

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That's the guarantee, surely to God that's the guarantee.

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Lifetime should always mean lifetime?

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Yes definitely, without fail. I'll admit - I also thought it meant

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It should be repaired or refunded or replaced. Forever, a lifetime

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guarantee! I thought it meant the whole of my life.

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But it seems there's often a fair bit of small print.

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Take outdoor clothing company, Berghaus, which offers the guarantee

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So, Berghaus define lifetime as the length of time any piece

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of kit can reasonably be expected to keep delivering the same great

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Well, that's as clear as the mud these jackets get covered in!

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North Face and Camelbak make similar promises,

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but spell out that it doesn't cover your lifetime

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They don't make it clear how many months -

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or years - that is, though. I need some help to navigate

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A lifetime guarantee has no legally uniform definition.

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So it can vary and it's a bit of a grey area.

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A warranty or a guarantee is an offer over and

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reassuring but none of them actually mean it's lifetime.

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Why do manufacturers use this phrase, lifetime guarantee?

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So the lifetime guarantee actually helps people to gain confidence

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in what they're purchasing and usually luxury brand

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or high brand names you pay the premium for it so you get

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Because there can be lots of exceptions.

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Things like, colour fading, rips, scuffs and stains.

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Has the product failed as a result of its manufacture or construction?

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Or has it simply failed as a result of not using it correctly?

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So the shoes behind you and the boots that we have,

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if the body of the boot fails that would be reasonable

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But if the laces failed after six months, are you really going

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And there are a few more things to look out for too.

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If you pass that buggy or car seat on to a friend the lifetime

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Usually you need to register the product soon after you buy it.

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And often you're not covered if you buy from somewhere

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So even if you live a long and happy life, don't assume those

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lifetime products will last the distance with you!

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Some useful tips there - definitely worth doing your

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Next - to Glynneath and a family who've been getting a frosty

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There are a lot of mouths to feed in the Curry household -

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so this family rely on their fridge freezer.

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At just over ?400 their Indesit model wasn't cheap -

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but it gave them the space they needed - and they

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Unfortunately their enthusiasm for Indesit quickly thawed

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as their appliance broke down again, and again, and again.

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Over the last two years I think we've had to throw out at least ?300

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- ?400 worth of food because everything in the fridge has had

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to go from, you know, butter was all melted

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because it was warm - everything went warm.

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The milk had curdled in the fridge, the cheese had gone soggy,

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all the meats that I keep in the fridge - everything.

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This has happened no fewer than 14 times in last two and a half years.

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And sometimes the Currys get a warning that trouble's on its way.

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It sounds like somebody is downstairs with a motorbike

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because it's horrendous, it happened any time of the day,

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two o'clock in the morning, whenever it decides to, really.

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It's woke us up, it's woke the children up.

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We've had to come down then and turn it off

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The fan in Michelle's freezer keeps icing up causing the whole

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Each time it happens, Indesit promise to sort it out.

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But, with so many hungry bellies to fill, Michelle's not impressed

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children and nobody cares - that's what it feels

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Last time it was just over two weeks.

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They left me two weeks without a fridge, in the middle

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of summer, beginning of the six weeks' holidays with five children.

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And, as she waits for yet another engineer's visit,

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she's relying on the kindness of her neighbour -

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who's letting her use the spare fridge in his garage.

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Not ideal in the middle of winter and with a sick one-year-old.

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The baby's got tonsillitis and he's on penicillin and that's got

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to be kept in the fridge, so four times a day I've got to come

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over to get his penicillin out the fridge because I can't store it

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Indesit have already replaced the fridge freezer once -

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But it developed exactly the same problems.

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I just want Indesit to give me a fridge freezer that works,

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I don't mind if it's a cheaper model, I just want a fridge freezer

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that I know every day I can get up and I'm not dreading opening

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the door to know if it's working or not.

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So what have Indesit said about this fridge-freezer fiasco?

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Well, they told us safety is their number one priority

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and they aim to resolve problems quickly and efficiently.

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Now, after more than two years, Indesit have given the Curry

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family a brand new fridge freezer - a different model -

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plus ?50 compensation, and Michelle and the whole

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Now back to that Swansea double glazing firm that just

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Double glazing companies don't have a great reputation.

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But Direct Choice Home Improvements takes that to new lows.

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They've had fine after fine for their bad behaviour.

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From pressure selling to a vulnerable widow...

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How my husband would really want me to have these windows.

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To illegally cold-calling people on the Telephone

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Preference Service - the register for people

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Something they then promised to put right.

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But customers have been telling us that Direct Choice

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Mark Davies from Pembrokeshire is on the Telephone Preference Service.

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Just before Christmas, the company cold-called him.

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I pointed out that it was an offence now to phone people on the TPS

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and it was up to him to check our number against it,

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and he basically said if he did that he couldn't possibly

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from Tenby, is on the TPS too - he says Direct Choice have been

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pestering him on the phone for years.

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I've said, right, take me off your database.

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I've got no intention of ever buying anything from you,

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so you're wasting your time, and they say, oh yes,

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we'll take you off and you'll never get a call from us again.

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And then three days later you get another call.

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So Chris decided to start playing Direct Choice at their own game -

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and in March, agreed to a visit from a rep.

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I told them, look you've come on a wild goose chase,

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As you can see the house has got brand new double

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glazing, we don't want it, but stop calling me.

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Incredibly, that still didn't do the trick -

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So Chris said, come on over, so they could see his brand

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The last rep I told stop calling me and go away.

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You've been fined for mis-selling, you've been fined for

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mis-representation, you've been fined for cold-calling.

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If you were the last company on earth I would never, ever,

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ever buy double glazing from Direct Choice.

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Now I would suggest you get off my property now.

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Go back to Swansea and tell them to stop calling me.

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23 times, tell them to stop calling me.

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It's making me angry now that they're still calling me.

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I've done everything I can do, so I just don't

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We've spotted a job advert, for telesales staff to join

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So one of our researchers went undercover in their Swansea call

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centre, to find out exactly what they're telling

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I'm calling you from a company called Direct Choice.

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The call centre is right next to the office of company

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Training is pretty basic - our researcher is initially told to

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So that's the script - that's what you need

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That's what we read to people on the phone.

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It says here that Direct Choice are investing a quarter of a million

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pounds in the area by subsidising the installation of windows.

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Our researcher questions one of the managers.

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Is that just to get them to agree to us?

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Do we genuinely pay a lot of the price for them?

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The cold-calling script also says staff should say they're doing

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a survey and just need to ask a couple of quick questions.

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We ask the Direct Marketing Association, which runs

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the Telephone Preference Service, what they make of this.

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It's called "sugging" which is selling under

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It's actually illegal under the PECR, Privacy

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and Electronic Communication Regulations.

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Our researcher is also told to call former customers to persuade them

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But many aren't too pleased about it.

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The manager's talking about existing customers.

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ignoring that request is against the law.

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It's probably one of the worst attitudes I've seen in the way

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Next we ask a legal expert to look at some of the tactics

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used by Direct Choice, like claiming to have

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It's all about keeping the consumer on the phone,

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keeping the conversation going, because they believe the longer

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you're on the phone the more likely you are to ultimately say yes,

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so they haven't sent a letter at all.

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if they'd like cheap or even free windows.

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They're all about making you think you're going to get a really good

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deal because they're going to cover a significant amount of the cost.

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Whether they are actually is a different matter entirely.

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Finally, a fake discount code given to customers - BS 179.

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I think we can guess what Direct Choice's

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That again is a misleading action about the specific price,

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the price advantage you think you're being given and to do

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We put the findings of our investigation to Richard Norris,

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The company told us they've now sacked one manager

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They claim their system does now filter out people on the TPS and say

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they will make sure all staff are trained to use

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Since their fine for pressure selling, they say reps have

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They've now fixed Allan Jones' conservatory -

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And as for employing Robert Norris, a convicted criminal,

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they say he only worked there for a week.

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But they didn't explain why they're still harassing customers who've

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asked not to be rung, and why their sales

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So I'm heading off to their Swansea call centre to see if I

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It's just before nine o'clock now and we're parked at the side

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of the Direct Choice offices, waiting to see whether Richard

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Then a few minutes later we spot him, and I head into the offices

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They claim he's off today - although we'd spotted him earlier.

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We just want to talk to him and ask him a few questions.

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So we check round the back, but it seems he's keeping

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a low profile, and then the shutters come down.

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So Direct Choice and its boss Richard Norris choosing not

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to answer our questions, but this is the company that doesn't

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respect your choice not to be called by them.

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Very frustrating - but we're going to be keeping

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an eye on Direct Choice, and if you've had any dealings

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Now, if you're being bothered by cold callers, make

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with the Telephone Preference Service.

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It only filters out companies based in the UK -

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but the good thing is, you can now register your mobile

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But, as we know some companies - and scammers - ignore this.

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If you're still getting calls a month after you've registered,

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get the name of the firm and take down the times and dates

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of the calls - and report it either to the TPS,

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or to the Information Commissioners Office,

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That's it for this week, but if there's anything

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you need our help with we are here for you, so please get in touch.

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The contact details are on the screen.

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Manhandled and abandoned - the shocking treatment of disabled

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air passengers by a company that's supposed to help them.

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I really, strongly feel that I will not fly on my

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