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This remote rocky corner of the Aegean Sea | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
is largely forgotten by history, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
except for one thing. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
The poet who gave birth to the Western romantic tradition. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
But she and this island are remembered now | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
mainly as a cultural curiosity. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Today, Sappho exists only on the fringe of our consciousness. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
It's down to her that this island, Lesbos, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
has given its name to a whole aspect of human sexuality. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
But in the past she was remembered not as a gay icon, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
but as a prostitute, a priestess, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
a school mistress, even as a tragic heroine, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
who hurled herself off a cliff for love of a man. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
And all this rests on just a few fragile fragments | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
of verse rescued from the desert. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
After thousands of years of slanders and obscurity, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
the real Sappho may be about to re-emerge | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
thanks to 21st-century science | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
and dramatic archaeological discoveries. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
We're reading lines that haven't been read for thousands of years. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
To reignite centuries of smouldering controversy. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
She had her opinion and she wanted to say it. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
A heady cocktail of music, sex and religion. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
This sometimes turns same-sex couples | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
into the ancient equivalent of suicide bombers. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
But at its heart, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
a real woman and her family, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
in a time of personal and political turmoil. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
I want to piece together the jigsaw | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
to get a picture of what Sappho was like. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
A real woman who still speaks to us | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
from 600 years before Christ. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Why have HER name and HER words resonated through the ages? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:11 | |
What was so special about Sappho? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
In February 2014, a Greek text written in Roman Egypt | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
briefly made headlines around the world. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
No-one apart from a small group of scholars has seen it | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
since the third century AD. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-So, this is it. It's in Greek, but it comes from Egypt. -It is. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
Probably would have been taken there from Alexandria | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
by someone who retired or bought property and settled in the Faiyum. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
And then, eventually, it wore out, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
and it was reused to make a kind of cardboard out of the pieces of it. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
This manuscript dates back to around 200 AD. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
An anonymous collector landed it | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
on the desk of papyrologist Dirk Obbink in 2012, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
unaware of what it contained. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
When the small pieces were humidified | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
they immediately started to peel off | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
and the first thing you could see underneath | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
were the ends of the first three lines. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
The letters that my eye first focused on | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
was the second to last word of the first line, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
"Charaxon" - that's a man's name - | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
followed by the verb "elthein" | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
in the spelling of the dialect of the island Lesbos | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
in the late seventh century. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
The only person we know in Greek antiquity | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
who had the name "Charaxos" | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
was the brother of the poetess Sappho from the island of Lesbos. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
And she was famous in antiquity, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
much-loved and widely read, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and imitated and slandered, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
but her poetry didn't survive. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
What did you feel like when you realised what this was? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, it knocked my socks off. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
HE READS IN ANCIENT GREEK | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
'..But you always chatter on about Charaxos | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
'coming home with his ship full, well, that's for Zeus...' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
What Dirk has discovered is the most complete poem | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
to emerge in centuries by the first female writer | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
in Western history, Sappho. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
'..That Charaxos bring his ship back home safely to port and find us...' | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
Written about 600 BC, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
in it, Sappho talks to someone close to her, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
a sister maybe, or her mother, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
-about the fate of her two brothers. -'..Simply leave it to the gods...' | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
First, there's Charaxos, away at sea. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
'..If that's the way Zeus wills...' | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
and then there's the younger one, Larichos, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
still struggling to grow up. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
'..And thus, if Larichos would raise his head, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
'if only he might one day be a man, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
'the deep and dreary draggings of our souls...' | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
This is not just a long-lost work of ancient literature, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
but a window into the life of one of its most enigmatic personalities. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
By any standards, an extraordinary find. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
It has already started to send shock waves | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
way beyond the dreaming spires of academia. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
For a papyrologist, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
making this discovery is a bit like finding the Holy Grail. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
But actually, it's much more than that. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Because the question it promises to help solve, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
"Who was Sappho?", | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
has been at the heart of a vexed debate for centuries. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
The works of the Greeks have shaped the way we think today. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
So, Sappho, antiquity's foremost female poet, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
has been critical in shaping our perception of women. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Ever since her work was first read, this question, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
"What was a woman doing writing powerful, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
"personal poetry in a man's world?", | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
has always been about more than just Sappho. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
For centuries, what you have to say about Sappho | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
has been code for what you have to say about women in general | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
and particularly, about women who aren't afraid to speak their mind. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
So, how did such a distant, unknown figure | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
have such an impact on the world we live in today? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Her voice seems to be personal and that draws people in. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Makes them feel as though she's speaking directly to them. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
She set up certain kinds of imagery which has come down to us | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
through the centuries and which has become hugely important in all kinds | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
of popular culture and in any number of pop songs you care to mention. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
The silver moon, blonde hair, but above all, the symptoms of desire. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:01 | |
The stuttering in the throat, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
the going hot and cold all over, in the presence of the beloved. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
And she didn't really look like this, did she? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Erm, I don't think so. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
No, this is a 19th-century idea of Sappho. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Here she is, she's exotic, she's erotic, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
she's wearing these thin, gauzy draperies | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
that leave nothing to the imagination, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
her breasts are exposed. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
And she's sullen and brooding, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
this gaze looking down throughout. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
But what's interesting about this picture | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
is that it offers us the key attributes of who Sappho is. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
So, she's definitely a woman, she's got her lyre, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
which very often appears in images of Sappho. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
She's by the sea, she's alone. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
And by the time we get to that period of history, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Sappho has become a bit of a vamp. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Over centuries of gender wars, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Sappho has been endlessly re-cast - | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
dangerous, emancipated woman, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
a high-class whore, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
an uptight schoolmistress, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and a feminist icon. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
On the one hand, women consistently claim her as a model, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
as an intellectual woman. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
But on the other hand, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
those who want to cut women in general down to size, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
point to her...um... | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
unfortunate sexual practices. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
The point about Sappho is that, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
because we have so little of her work, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
because we know so little of her life, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
she simply becomes this kind of empty space | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
where you can paint in whatever it is that you want | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
from your political, cultural or social needs | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
and she fills up those imperatives. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
When actually, there's only you and there's no Sappho there at all. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
Or so one might think. But with the recent revelations, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
there's more truth there than it appears. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
To start to find her, we need to strip away those years of mythology, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
which have built up around her. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
That process started much closer to Sappho's time than ours, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
in Ancient Greece itself. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Athens is, today, the capital of the Greece, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
but 25 centuries ago, it was the foremost | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
of hundreds of independent city states - | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
going through an unparalleled cultural revolution. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
In the museum there, evidence still survives | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
as to the esteem in which classical Greeks held the poet Sappho. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
Yes, you can see it here. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
There's S-A-P-P | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and there's another letter there. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
It has to be Sappho. And she's accompanied by several other ladies. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
There's one here who's actually bestowing a crown on her head. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
As if she's won a competition? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Yes! The city is bestowing the crown for being the best poet | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
or the best poetess on the figure of Sappho. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Most of this kind of pot, made in Athens, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
with the red figures on the black slip, have goddesses on, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
like Aphrodite or Athena. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Or they have nymphs or muses, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
but supernatural, religious creatures. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Here we have an actual HISTORICAL person with a name. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
And this is really path-breaking | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
and is really testimony to just how important she was | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
in the Athenian imagination and the Athenian cultural sphere. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Sappho is the only historical woman ever to have been depicted | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
on an Ancient Greek vase. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
And that's all the more extraordinary given that when this was painted, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
Sappho was long dead from an island far away. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
This vase is 440BC. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
This is an Athenian vase from the great democratic classical | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
period of Athens, the famous period of philosophers and playwrights. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
But she's actually living and working around 600BC. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
So, this is more than a century and a half | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
since Sappho herself was working. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
This vase is showing us that a poet who is from Lesbos, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
which is an island way over the other side of the Aegean Sea - | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
in fact, it's just a few miles off the Turkish coast - | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
has got a reputation far away, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
a long sailing ship ride in the ancient world | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
from the great city of Athens in the fifth century. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
So, her reputation had spread. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Do you think they'd have thought Sappho was exotic | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
coming from this eastern island? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Oh, definitely. Lesbos had a very particular reputation. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Firstly, for producing very beautiful women. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
They also had a very interesting accent, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
which will have sounded almost Oriental to Athenians. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
But the most interesting thing is that they really | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
were supposed to be the sexiest people in the entire Greek world. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
In fact, the word "to do a lesbian", | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
is actually the Ancient Greek for giving someone...a...blowjob. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
That's not quite what we associate Sappho with now, is it? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
It really isn't, but that's what the Ancient Greeks did | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
and very definitely they associated it | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
with a woman doing a blowjob on a man. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
-So, sex tourism capital of the Aegean, possibly? -Absolutely. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
As far back as 450 BC, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
Sappho had a reputation for strange sexuality | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
that was bound up with that of her exotic eastern island. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
A Lesbian is, in fact, an inhabitant of Lesbos, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
the third largest island in the Greek archipelago - | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
one of the richest islands of the Ancient Aegean. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
The reason for the other modern meaning of Lesbian | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
is the fact that this was the birthplace of the poet Sappho. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
Ancient authors wrote biographies of Sappho. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
They agree she came from this island, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
but they don't agree on much else. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Her father was called Simon or Eumenus, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
or Eerigyius or Ecrytus | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
or Semos or Camon or Etarchus, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
or Scamandronymous. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
They also tell us that she was married to a very wealthy man | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
called Cercylas who traded from Andros. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Which seems helpful until you realise | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
that the comic poets invented this | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
and it means "Prick" from "Man-Island". | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
In Sappho's poems, she seems to refer to a daughter, Cleis. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
So, she may have been a wife and mother, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
but what has excited and amazed generations of readers | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
is what she has to say about the other women around her. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
"And on soft beds, delicate you quenched your desire. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
"Pacing far away, her gentle heart devoured by powerful desire. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
"She remembers slender Atthis. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
"Weeping she left me." | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
For most historical figures, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
we're used to knowing facts. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
But for Sappho, we know very little about how she lived, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
who she was, what she did. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
But what we do know about her are her feelings, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
what she was passionate about, the women she loved - | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Atthis, Megara, Telesippa, Mika. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
'He seems to me an equal of the gods | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
'Whoever gets to sit across from you | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
'And listen to the sound of your sweet speech so close to him...' | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
In this poem, you think she's in love with a man, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
but it turns out she's in love with the girl he's sitting next to. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
'Oh, it makes my panicked heart go fluttering in my chest | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
'For the moment I catch sight of you there's no speech left in me | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
'But tongue gags. All at once...' | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
It's because of poetry like this that we now | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
think of Sappho as homosexual. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
And Lesbos has become a global by-word for gayness in women, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
with Sappho, the iconic first Lesbian. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
The place of Sappho's birth was Eressos in the far west. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
It's one of the most beautiful spots on the whole island. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
In the summer, it thrives on a tourist industry | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
built around Sappho. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
And every year, women flock from Europe and America | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
to enjoy the women-only nudist beaches, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
the pick-up opportunities, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
and the free bohemian atmosphere. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
When I arrived, it was the off-season, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
but the most dedicated expats and local converts agreed to meet me | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
for a drink and a chat in the famous Tenth Muse bar. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
ALL LAUGH AND CHATTER | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
So, she's got a fan club here, has she? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
The lesbians probably think about her as their, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
you know, guru, let's say, yeah. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
The starter of the movement, I'm saying, generally speaking. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
But someone else can approach her because of the fact | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
she was a great poetess, you know? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Because of her talent, and her contribution and everything. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
So, everybody, depends what they want to have. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Here has a lot of artistic people drawn into here. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
And maybe that's the spirit of Sappho what keeps them here! | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Maybe she's like, "Stay here, stay!" | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So, Sappho in effect started it? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Was the... Was the catalyst? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
She was the first woman ever | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
that had the courage to stand up and say, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
"Listen, I'm feeling this. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
"I don't give a damn about what you're saying. I feel this. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
"And I'm going to say it." And she said it in the most beautiful way. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
After I read Sappho, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
I felt that there was somebody behind me. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
She was my great-great-great-grandmother | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and she was feeling the same things with me. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
And that was an amazing thing in a way! | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Great-great-great-great-great-great- grandmother! | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Great-great-great-great-great, yeah! | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
You can say that, but she was... She was feeling the same things. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
This is the most recent vision of Sappho, the lesbian icon. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
But is this modern idea of her just as much an anachronism | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
as the 19th-century vamp or the Edwardian schoolmistress? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
James Davidson has literally written the book on Greek love - | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
and it's a culture that defies our categories | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
of lesbian, gay and straight. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
Here was have frottage, between the thighs, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
surrounded by people in the gymnasium. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-See, two of them... -Yes. -..in public. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
People with wreaths, a kind of dancer, even. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Is this a reflection of reality? Or is this just a... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Just some artist putting a whole load of things together | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
to make a pretty pot. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Societies are strange, you know, societies do strange things | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and this is a really peculiar cultural phenomenon. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Instead of Greek homosexuality, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
I sometimes think it should be called Greek homo-besottedness, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
because it's always so over-the-top, it's always so extreme. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
And that seems to be almost a unique phenomenon. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
In Thebes, an army unit was created entirely of lovers. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
In Athens, love affairs could become political alliances. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
For men, gay love wasn't just personal preference, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
it was often the glue which held society together. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
So, do you think she was following male practice | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
in writing poetry like that or do you think she was a groundbreaker? | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
The female version is much more difficult to discover. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Sappho is, you know, as ancient critics say, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
she is a "thaumaston chrema", | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
she's a wonderful, amazing thing, she's a phenomenon. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
There's no question about that. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
But any kind of genius still follows on the culture of their time. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
What we were told is that, in Sparta, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
women had relationships just like the men. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Because we've even got a poem which is a maiden chorus | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
in which the girls are flirting with each other | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
while they're performing a ritual. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
But I think what's interesting about this whole phenomenon | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
of Greek love - Greek homosexuality for men and women - | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
is that seems to be... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
a kind of cultural and social institution. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
They're using it as a way of social cohesion to break out | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
of family groups to establish, if you like, to establish a community, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
so that an army of lovers is also, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
is an army which breaks out of clan groupings and tribal groupings | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and unites the whole polis. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
There's no doubt that Sappho was in love with women, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
but she wasn't a lesbian in our terms. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
In her culture, homosexual feelings and practices | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
were an important part of life | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
in mainstream heterosexual society, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and she is our best evidence that this was also true of women. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
So, it seems, to understand Sappho, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
we need to abandon our own preconceptions | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
and build up a picture from the evidence alone. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
The problem is that, for a long time, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
there hasn't been very much evidence to go on. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
For centuries, we had no such thing as a text of Sappho, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
because none had been handed down to us from the ancient world. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Maybe all those monks and Islamic scholars who copied out the works | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
of antiquity, didn't want to spend months of their time, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
not to mention expensive ink and vellum, reproducing love poetry, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
written by a possible degenerate in a strange eastern Greek dialect. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
So, how did we know anything of her work, you may ask? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
Well, we found bits of it quoted by ancient authors. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
But not in anthologies of ancient poetry - | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
in grammar books, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
analysing the dialect and the verse metre on Lesbos. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
'The Aeolic dactylic tetrameter acatalectic is as follows...' | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
'Sappho has composed a line which includes two...' | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
'And "sphi" "to them" is used in Aeolic...' | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
'Once again, Love, that loosener of limbs, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
'bitter-sweet and inescapable...' | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
It's like finding a gold necklace in a heap of rubbish, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
this is the first time in Western literature | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
that anyone has defined love as | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
"limb-loosening", "bitter-sweet", "irresistible". | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
This is the birth of our Western tradition of love poetry | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
and we find it in a handbook | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
on the Aeolic dactylic tetrameter acatalectic. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
These short quotations by other authors | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
were all anyone knew of Sappho until the 19th century, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
when everything started to change. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
In 1896, two British archaeologists, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Bernard Grenfell and Arthur Hunt, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
were excavating what looked like unpromising rubbish mounds | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
in the small ancient town of Oxyrynchus in Egypt. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
They soon realised that what they were finding beneath their feet | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
were piles and piles of papyrus, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
thrown away by the Greeks who lived there. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
When these were shipped back to Oxford they revealed shopping lists, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
accounts, personal letters and, most excitingly, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
lost works of Greek literature - | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
including fragments of unknown poems by Sappho. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
'She who surpassed all human kind in beauty...' | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
'Sing of the bride with shapely feet, she could not remember...' | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
'Some say foot soldiers, others call a fleet... | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
'But I say, it's whatever you love... ' | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Since 1896, scholars have gone through 100 of the boxes | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
that came back from Oxyrynchus. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
There are still 700 left to decipher. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
So, at this rate, we'll be finished in seven centuries' time. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Today, though, we at least have technology to help with the task. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
Where we're at with data visualisation, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
with very simple tools that allow us to see fragments like this. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
But not in a static way. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
We can actually manipulate them, move them around | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
and it actually allows for great freedom. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
So, with delicate pieces of papyrus like this, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
we don't actually have to physically touch them | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
and you know, beat them up. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
We can just do this visually and it helps preserve the fragments. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
You can do that even if you haven't got | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
all the pieces of papyrus, where you are, can't you? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Yes, yes. That's even better. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
So, you could be sitting anywhere around the world | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and still working on your reconstruction of Sappho. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
It's an almost impossible jigsaw, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
not least because we only have a fraction of the pieces. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
So, a big part of the job | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
is guessing what might have been in the gaps. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
But every now and then, new archaeological discoveries emerge | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
which replace our guesswork with the real thing. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
In the early 2000s there was a new discovery from Cologne, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
this is the so-called "Cologne Sappho Papyrus". | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
What's specific about this fragment is that | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
where the fragment from Oxyrhynchus breaks off on all these lines, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
the Cologne fragment fills them out for us. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
Can see the pairing of the same exact lines, here? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
For the longest time, we just had this word for fawns, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and originally it was more thinking | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
that the girl's dancing around like a fawn. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
But what the Cologne papyrus showed us is that, it was quite different. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
It was about Sappho, you know, her knees are old | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and so they don't carry her quite the same way. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Whereas once before, they were very nimble | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
and she danced like a fawn. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
So, we now know she's talking about old age, really, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
and not being able to dance around like fawns, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
like young deer, any more. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
I have some sympathy with that. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
We're reading lines that haven't been read for thousands of years. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And, in this case, you know, it's not just any poet, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
it's a female poet, it's a woman's voice. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
And, you know, her voice has been emanating | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
very silently and quietly for decades, centuries. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
And the more fragments we find, the louder her voice becomes. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
Piece by piece, fragment by fragment, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
we are building up a picture of the real Sappho. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
Not young and sexy here, but ageing with bad knees. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
And there's another blow to our image of Sappho, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
the confessional Lesbian writer. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
These written documents all date to centuries after her death. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
In Sappho's day, writing was new-fangled technology. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Poetry was something to be learned by heart and sung out loud. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
MAN SINGS | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Everybody forgets that Ancient Greek poetry was actually sung music. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
Armand d'Angour has used ancient evidence | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
to reconstruct what the new brothers poem | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
might originally have sounded like. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
The first line where it says... HE SPEAKS IN ANCIENT GREEK | 0:26:50 | 0:26:58 | |
..you hear my voice going up and down | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and if we then apply them to this scale system, the Mixolydian Scale, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
HE PLAYS SCALE | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
So it goes something like... HE SINGS IN ANCIENT GREEK | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
HIS VOICE FADES | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
WOMAN'S VOICE SINGS MELODY IN ANCIENT GREEK | 0:27:15 | 0:27:22 | |
This other-worldly music was, to Greeks, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
the chief appeal of Sappho. Both these words and this tune | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
would have spread through the Greek world orally | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
long before they were written down. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
People are much more likely to remember a song | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
than a poem, aren't they? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
The Muses, who were the goddesses of poetry and song and dance were... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
In myth, the Nine Muses were the daughters of Mnemosyne which means "Memory". | 0:27:48 | 0:27:54 | |
This must have been the most marvellous music as well as poetry. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
I think there's every reason to think that she was one | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
of the great poets of the ancient world | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and must have been a wonderful musician. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Sappho wasn't a writer, she was a singer-songwriter. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
It's a revelation that shifts your perspective completely. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
It sets our quest off in a new direction. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
What kind of woman could be a singer in Ancient Lesbos? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
In the Ancient Greek societies we know anything about, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
it was quite something for a woman to perform music in public. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
Sappho isn't just the earliest Greek female poet we know of, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
she's practically the only one. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
And in historical times, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
respectable Greek women were supposed to stay at home. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
We even know that, in Crete, if a man raped a woman in her own home, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
he was fined a thousand staters, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
if he raped her in the street, the fine was reduced by 50%. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
By being out, effectively, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
she was asking for it. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
The only women men would have seen singing and dancing | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
would have been like this woman here, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
playing the flute, wearing sexy see-through garments, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
at an all-male drinking party. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
A prostitute, basically. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Sappho might not have been a lesbian, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
but she might have been some kind of Geisha or courtesan. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
In Germany, one expert went through her work piece-by-piece | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
to pick out all of the names of girls Sappho loved | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
and others she hated, with surprising results. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
Apparently, there were four kinds of names. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
Some are ethnic names like Atthis, which means she comes from Athens. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
Or they're abstract nouns like Peace or Justice. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Or nicknames like "Gyrinno" which means "tadpole", | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
or "Doricha", "gift lover", | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
and there are names from mythology like "Andromeda" and "Gorgo". | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
The theory is that those names | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
are not far from modern porn-star names | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
like Houston or Fantasy. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
And even the name Sappho, or should I say "Psapfo", is a strange word. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
It's not Greek at all. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
So, what's going on here? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
The term Sappho uses for her friends, "hetaira", "companions", | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
is the one later Greeks used for courtesans | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
or high-class prostitutes. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
So, is this what we're missing? | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
Was Sappho leading a band of go-go dancers, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
who offered a little more than just titillating songs, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
or are we yet again being misled | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
by other people's prejudice? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
We have to remember that Sappho lived at a specific time and place | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
with its own distinctive culture. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
And there, it seems there were other venues for a performer | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
than an all-male drinking party. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Lesbos, way back in 600 BC, was a different place | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
from the classical world of later centuries. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
The island still glimmers | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
with haunting natural beauty, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
and to an ancient poet, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
that was evidence for the presence of the divine. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Sappho is full of images of the natural world that surrounded her - | 0:31:44 | 0:31:50 | |
roses, honey, clover, chervil and moonlight over the briny sea. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:56 | |
We can still see all of that today, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
but for her, that whole natural world was populated by gods. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
Gods were everywhere and gods are everywhere in her poetry. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
For a go-go girl, Sappho seems surprisingly obsessed with religion. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
The heart of her sacred landscape was known literally as the middle - | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Messa - an idyllic spot in the heart of the countryside | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
where worshippers would come together | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
from all four corners of Lesbos. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
I went there with Cathy Morgan, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
director of the British School at Athens. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
It creates the impression of having two colonnades around... | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
Local archaeologist Ioannis Kourtzellis | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
showed us what remains of the ancient temple | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
to three of the great Olympian Gods. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
And it's good he did, because you need to look carefully | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
to see the remains of the building that Sappho might have known. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
-Quite narrow, as well. -Yes, yes. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
So, these columns that we can see now were later. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
They weren't here in archaic times, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
they're the classical one about 300 years after Sappho. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes, definitely. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:37 | |
-And then a stone wall inside that. -Definitely, yes. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
And then, behind it is the later building, which is much bigger. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
When Sappho was alive, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
all that was here was a tiny, chapel-sized building - | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
now dwarfed by the monumental temple built later. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
In her time, the building itself was an afterthought. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
What mattered was this holy piece of land set aside for the gods | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
and the island-wide festivals that regularly took place here. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
I imagine a Greek festival | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
with all these colours and blood | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
and wealth being sacrificed and social business going on | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
as being a kind of mixture of state funeral, Woodstock... | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
SHE LAUGHS Whichever you like to call it! | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
The sort of nice, bleached view of a Greek sanctuary | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
that sometimes we have, it's completely alien. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
Yes, we think of people in wafting in spotless white garments | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-and white marble buildings. -Completely bloodstained! -Exactly. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
And you mentioned song and performance. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
Is it possible that Sappho, that a woman like Sappho | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
might have had a role performing at a ceremony here? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Very likely, actually. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
We do have visual evidence of lines of women dancing and performing. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
So, dance, presumably song and music attached to it. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
And her songs might have been sung | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
-by her leading a chorus, is that possible? -Perfectly possible, yes. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
Far from the seedy drinking parties of Athens, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
it may be at these raucous countryside festivals | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
where we should imagine Sappho performing, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
possibly with other girls from the community. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Which isn't quite our idea of a sort of paid singer | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
and maybe paid is the wrong term, as well. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
These rituals are a reminder of what society is, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
what it feels like. So, paying someone else to come in and perform, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
perhaps, but it's a little bit different | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
from the occasion in the festival | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
where the women of the community come and sing their song. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
It's almost like dances in Greek villages nowadays. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
In the new poem, Sappho entrusts the fate of her brother | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
to the King of the Gods, Zeus. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
She asks to be sent to pray to his Queen, the Goddess Hera, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
and hopes for another god or "daimon" to give them relief | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
from their troubles, most probably Dionysus, the God of Wine. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
Wouldn't it have gone better | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
if she was singing these words here at the sanctuary to those three gods | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
rather than just at some late night men's drinking party? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
This all starts to make sense. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Sappho may have performed her songs here in front of people | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
from all over the island of Lesbos. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
Maybe she even made her name here. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
Far from a showgirl, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
Sappho may have been renowned for performing at religious events. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
For some people, this has been a chance to pigeon-hole her once more. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
A priestess, possibly of the Goddess of Love, Aphrodite. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
But do you have to be a priestess to sing religious songs? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
When I was in Eressos, I was lucky enough | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
to be invited to a real big, fat, Greek wedding. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
MUSIC AND CHATTER | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
And this is one kind of religious occasion | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
where we can be pretty sure Sappho performed. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
A whole book of the Complete Works of Sappho | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
is devoted to wedding songs. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
There's the ones for the hen night | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
"Virgins, celebrate all night, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
"let's get all the unmarried men your age | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
"so we'll get less sleep than the nightingale." | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
And then there's the ones when the groom is coming - | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
"Hymenaios! Hymenaios! | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
"Here comes the groom like Ares..." - that's the God of War - | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
"..and he's larger than even a big man!" | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
And then, perhaps sadly, the wedding night itself - | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
remember the bride might be only 12 years old | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
and getting married to someone more than twice her age. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
"Virginity! Virginity! Where have you gone?" | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
and the chorus singing, "We've gone, never to return!" | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
ALL CHATTER AND CLAP | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
-I have to leave for.. -To change! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
-That's too beautiful not to wear! -But too big! I can't dance! | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Religious celebrations the world over | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
are also an excuse for a knees-up, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
I can picture Sappho at an evening like this, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
the best singer-songwriter anyone knew. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
She could muster a hymn to the gods in the day, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
and a party tune for the celebrations as the night drew on. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
I don't think we need to pigeon-hole Sappho as a priestess | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
any more than a prostitute. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Singing about love and singing to the gods | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
were just natural things for a poet to do. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
And now, the discovery of a new poem | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
is opening up another side to her life - her family. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
'But you always chatter on about Charaxos coming home | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
'with his ship full | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
'Well, that's for Zeus...' | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
What's the real story behind this poem? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Someone's nagging Sappho about the need for her brother | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
to come back with a full ship. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Our best guess is that's her mother. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
There's no mention of a father anywhere. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Her other brother is little more than a child. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
He's serving wine to the grown-ups in the town hall. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
And if Charaxos blows it all on fast women in Egypt, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
the family fortunes may well depend on Sappho. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
The family were most likely landowners | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
in the small town of Eressos, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
but at some point, Sappho moved east | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
to the island's largest city, Mytilene. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Today, a huge fortress occupies the site of Sappho's city. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
And on the horizon is a reminder why. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
The coast of Asia only six miles away. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
In recent centuries, political tensions with Turkey | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
have turned this narrow strait into a tensely watched frontier. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
But in Sappho's time, the people across the water | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
were trading partners, not enemies. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Although sailing the Aegean did have its dangers. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
"You keep chattering that Charaxos must come with his ship full." | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
And I wonder how many women from Mytilene | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
stood somewhere like this, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
gazing out to sea looking for a son or a brother or a husband | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
and some of them may have prayed, too, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
although probably not all to Queen Hera. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
But think how much greater the anxiety must have been in 600 BC, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
with no proper maps, no letters home. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
And people like Charaxos were sailing right to the edge | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
of the then-known world. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
And many of them didn't return. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
But the ones that did come back transformed the society | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
and the culture here on Lesbos. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
'Headscarves, fragrant purple | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
'Monassus sent you from Phocaea | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
'Valuable gifts...' | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Sappho's poems tell of a world in which sailors | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
were coming back to Lesbos with tantalising, exotic goods. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
'A decorated slipper. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
'A lovely piece of Lydian work...' | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
'Robe, saffron, Phrygian purple | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
'Embroidered headbands from Sardis...' | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
These pieces are fantastic, they're really beautiful. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
I mean, look at how fine those designs are. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
These treasures of the British Museum | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
give us a sense of the Eastern luxuries Sappho might have known. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
Yes, this beautiful jewellery comes from a number of different graves | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
from the end of the seventh century BC in Kamiros Rhodes. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
So, not far from Lesbos, and about the time Sappho was alive. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
-Yes. -So, when Sappho writes about a headband for her daughter, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
she might have been thinking about something like this piece here. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
That's right. If she was extremely wealthy, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
it might have been a gold piece like this. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
Alternatively, she might have had something from textile. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Would they have been made in Greece or imported? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
There were probably made locally, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
but the representation of this winged goddess | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
with the beautiful little lions either side | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
is a motif that you get from the Near East. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
What's this little figure here? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
It's an Egyptian faience bottle for perfumes. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
So, it's not too farfetched to think of Sappho | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
sitting putting on perfume from something like that, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
and maybe fastening her cloak or her dress with something like that? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Of course. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
'This finery all comes from a time when Greeks | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
'were reaching across the Mediterranean | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
'as traders and colonists. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
'And Charaxos, it seems, may have been headed for Egypt.' | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
We understand, from a number of different sources, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
that he was trading wine with Egypt | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
and the major trading port of Egypt at this time was Naucratis. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
And this was the port where all traders, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
including our friends from Lesbos, would have come. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
Now, this settlement was settled around the time of Sappho's birth | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
and we find lot of Greek objects, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
including those that the Greek traders dedicated to their deities. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
And these two here came from Lesbos. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
And this one here mentions a dedication | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
from someone from Mytilene. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
-Ah. That might have been Charaxos. -Well, who knows? Potentially. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
Charaxos was one of thousands of young men across Greece | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
setting out with the produce of their family farm - | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
gambling on making a profit | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
in places like Naucratis - | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
the ancient equivalent | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
of Hong Kong or Dubai. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
Sappho would have had no way of knowing | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
what had become of her brother and the family's precious cargo. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
But incredibly, we do. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
By an extraordinary coincidence, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
the historian Herodotus | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
mentions him in a passage about a high-class courtesan | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
called Rhodopis - "Rosy Face". | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
Well, what he actually says is, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
"Rhodopis, our heroine for the moment, came to Egypt. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:23 | |
"She arrived and she worked there as a prostitute | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
"and then she was freed for a great sum of money | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
"by a man from Mytilene, called Charaxos, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
"son of Scamandronymus, who was the brother of Sappho the poetess." | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
But he was a bit of a bad boy. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
I think, he spent pretty much all of his liquid cash on freeing her. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:48 | |
And do we know what Sappho thought of that? | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
Herodotus says in a poem, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
Sappho abused her brother immensely. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
And I think Sappho was not happy with the way her brother | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
was both spending his money, which was in a way, her money, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
on freeing what she probably would have called a tart. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
So, instead of returning to Mytilene with a profit for the family, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
Charaxos blew everything on this romance with Rosy Face, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
and when he got back, Sappho angrily confronted him | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
in a song which hasn't survived. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
So, she wasn't taking the moral high ground, probably, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
-it was a business issue? -I wonder... It could have been both. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
Was she a respectable married woman with a child | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
and therefore, was ripping... | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
really ripping into a feckless brother who should have settled down | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
and got married to a nice Mytilenean girl? One doesn't know about that. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
This finally makes sense of the new poem we've discovered. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
Sappho must have sung a series of songs about her brother. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
The one we have found is set early on in the story. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
She's telling her mother not to get her hopes up about Charaxos. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
Then later, she sang one to Charaxos himself, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
berating him for leaving the family without a penny. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
It's a tragic domestic soap opera - | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
far removed from the Lesbian romances | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
we've come to expect from Sappho. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
And it shows us the real problems a woman faced in 600 BC. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
And in Oxford, there's intriguing evidence | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
that the problems she faced weren't just financial, but political. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
This stone was purchased in 1627, by Thomas Howard, Earl of Arundel, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
who was a prominent courtier of Charles I, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
but also a prominent grand tourist and art collector. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
And this is actually the oldest historical record | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
we have from Ancient Greece. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
It is a crude list of dates, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
originally set up on the island of Paros, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
telling key events of Greek history | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
from 1580 to 263 BC. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
It's very difficult to read now because the letters | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
have got so worn over time. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
But what this bit actually says is... | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
SHE READS IN ANCIENT GREEK | 0:48:29 | 0:48:38 | |
Excuse my awful accent. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
But what that means is that a certain period of time had elapsed | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
since Sappho sailed from Mytelene to Sicily fleeing. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
The rest of the section gives us more information so we can date it, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
but what's interesting is that word "fugusa", | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
which I've translated as "fleeing", | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
but which really suggests that she was sent into exile. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
The discovery of this stone was like a bolt from the blue. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:10 | |
From it, we learn in a few faint carvings, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
that Sappho was exiled from her home city to the island of Sicily, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
about a week's sail away. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
Then all is silence. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
So, not only was Sappho bankrupted by her brother, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
she fell foul of the authorities enough to be sentenced to exile. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
To find out why, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
we need to go back to the turbulent world of Sappho's Mytilene. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
So, James, what was Mytilene like when Sappho was alive? | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
-What was going on here? -Amazingly, we actually have | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
evidence from one of her contemporaries. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
Someone called Alcaeus. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
He was writing maybe ten or 20 years before Sappho's time. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:03 | |
And he describes a world which was actually very politically disturbed, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:08 | |
lots of faction fighting, endless coups | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
and counter coups and people trying to establish tyrannies. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:17 | |
Alcaeus, like Sappho, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
wrote about passionate homosexual love affairs - | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
but for him, that was partly about bonding | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
with his fellow conspirators. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
Quite a party, really. Would Sappho have been part of that scene at all? | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
One thing is that some of the papyri are revealing more and more | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
about the way that maybe Sappho and her friends | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
could be involved also in these family politics | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
because some of the names that we hear in Alcaeus | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
and the faction of Alcaeus and his brothers | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
also crop up in some of the papyri of Sappho. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
I've got one here, it concerns someone called Mika. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
"That I shall not allow you, you chose the friendship | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
"of ladies of the house of Penthilos" | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
and that house of Penthilos seems to be one of the original | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
very old aristocratic families that starts all the faction fighting. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
So that's a tiny clue to indicate | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
that the women and Sappho's ladies | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
are also involved with the faction fighting. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
So, when she's complained that Mika's left, it isn't just | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
that she's left her for another woman or another man, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
she's crossed over to the enemy, she's gone to the other side. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
That seems to be the case, yes, so just as with Alcaeus | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
underneath the romantic | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
and the loving, hot, erotic poetry, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
there seems to be some kind of politics of alliance going on. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
Whose side are you on? You used to be my lover, used to love me, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:47 | |
and now you've gone over to the other side. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
Women are of course more subtle than men - we know that, don't we? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
SOME women are more subtle! | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
This is a completely new perspective on the love affairs of Sappho. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
That behind all of that talk of love was political alliance-making. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:06 | |
And Sappho must have allied with the wrong side to end up in exile. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
Bankrupted, exiled, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
each step in this tale takes us further | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
from the other-worldly Sappho of romantic cliche. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
We're uncovering, I feel, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
not a dreamer, but a prominent figure on the island of Lesbos. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
A celebrated performer at its great festivals and gatherings. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:40 | |
A woman heading up one of its great families | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
in the absence of her brothers. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
A player in the island's cut-throat political struggles. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
But this truth about her was slowly clouded by the mists of time | 0:52:53 | 0:52:59 | |
and we've replaced it with the image of a poetess we wanted to see. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
And nowhere is this truer than with the story of Sappho's death. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
Of course, a passionate, tragic poet | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
had to come to a passionate, tragic end. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
And legend has it that Sappho killed herself | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
by leaping from the cliff of Lefkas. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
At some point in history, a tragic love story grew up | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
about Sappho and a man called Phaon | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
that ended with her suicide on the white cliff of Lefkas - | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
far off in western Greece. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
It's ironic, isn't it, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
that a woman whose poetry is so full of love for other women, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
goes down in history as having leapt to her death for love of a man. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
Well, it's rubbish, of course. | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
The story is that, she was worked among her girls | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
and then she fell in love with this handsome young man called Phaon. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
Who, in fact, had been an old ferry man | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
but was translated and made youthful by Aphrodite. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
And Sappho falls in love with him, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
deserts all her girls and runs after him. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
And he's not interested and so she throws herself off | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
the cliff off the cliff of Leucadia. You know, as you do. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
For centuries Sappho's Leap | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
has been the most common image associated with her. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
But this melodramatic suicide story | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
is a fiction shaped in large part | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
by the antipathy of male elites towards powerful women. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
-So, she's overreached herself in a number of ways, then? -Absolutely. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
She's writing poetry, she's claiming a public role, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
she's speaking about women | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
and all of this is out there and it has a political content | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
as far as other viewers are concerned. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
So, this is why that has to be taken back | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
and she has to be consumed with feeling. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
She has to be put back into a classic feminine role | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
which is sexualised, and then she has to die. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
-And that's the end. -The end! | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
So, she throws herself off the cliff. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
And this picture of Sappho killing herself becomes hugely prevalent. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
Just at this moment when women are beginning to claim rights | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
to education to employment, to the custody of their children, so... | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
-This is what happens to you? -Yes, if you go down that route, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
this is what will happen. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
This reshaping of Sappho's story | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
by male artists began in Ancient Greece itself. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
But at some time, Sappho actually became a figure of fun, didn't she? | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
Yes, absolutely. It's really strange that this poetess | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
becomes a sort of grotesque comic role. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
In fact, several playwrights wrote comedies about her. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
If there was any one place that reshaped Sappho's reputation | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
it was here, the Theatre of Dionysus in Athens, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
where, a century after Sappho, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
the world's first plays were performed. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
Ancient Greek comedies are all played by male actors | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
in front of male audiences. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
But they liked to see men in transvestite roles. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
And it seems as though Sappho was played very ugly, very small, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
and the Ancient Greeks didn't like short women. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Very dark skinned, and she did all sorts of strange things. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
She seems to have fancied men often younger than her | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
and she's very randy and rather desperate. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
And I think it's a response in the fifth century, in Athens, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
which was the kind of society where female sexuality | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
wasn't something that was allowed to be talked about in public. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
And respectable women, it certainly it wasn't recognised | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
that they had any kind of sex life or sexual experience. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
So, it's in that context that an educated, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
in fact, aristocratic woman, with a public sex drive | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
has to be made funny, burlesque and comic. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
It's the only way that a patriarchal male society can cope with her. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
Because otherwise they feel threatened by her? | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
They genuinely would feel threatened by her. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
And they don't want their women to have a role model like her? | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
They certainly don't, so she's got to be small, dark, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
hideous, ugly and a figure of fun. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
As the mythologised Sappho grew in popularity, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
so the real Sappho's influence slowly waned. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
And by the eighth century AD, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
the last books of her works had been consigned to the dust heap. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
But now, 2,600 years after her death, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
she is finally re-emerging from obscurity. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
We know that the family fortune | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
was blown by Charaxos on his rosy-faced courtesan - | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
and maybe one day we will know if Larichos | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
ever did grow up to become a man, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
and what became of Sappho's daughter Cleis. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
And we may never know what actually became of the poet herself. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:04 | |
But Sappho knew that she would have the last word. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
She wasn't afraid to say about people that she didn't like. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
"But when you die you will lie there. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
"And afterwards there will never be any recollection of you | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
"or any longing for you. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
"Unseen in the house of Hades, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
"you will go to and fro among the shadowy corpses." | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
But of herself she wrote, | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
"And if you judge me by the divine Muses, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
"you will know that I escaped the gloom of Hades | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
"and that no day will ever dawn | 0:58:36 | 0:58:38 | |
"that does not speak the name of Sappho, the lyric poet." | 0:58:38 | 0:58:42 | |
And so far, she's been right. | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 |