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I'm Adam Pearson and people hate me because I'm disabled. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
I've been called "Quasimodo", "Elephant Man"... | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
'Because my face looks different...' | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
.."hideous creature"... "Disfigured". | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Try to rip my face off. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
And it's not just me under attack. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Kicked and punched and spat on. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
I randomly got hit. I realised my nose was constantly bleeding. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
In 2013, there were an estimated 62,000 disability hate crimes | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
in England and Wales. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
"Scary","demon-looking"..."freak"... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
But only a handful of them were prosecuted. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
The system's just screwed. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
These crimes are going under-reported, under-recorded | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
and under the radar and I want to find out why. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
I'm almost looking for a fight. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
-Do you know what disablism is? -No, I don't. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Do you think I'm a bad guy? How bad could I be? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Why is there prejudice against disabled people? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
You do have to put the barriers up. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
I have to say, I thought he was wearing a mask. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Whoa, whoa, whoa. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Why is it not being taken as seriously as other hate crimes? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
YouTube don't seem to see the bloody problem either. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
Police should have taken that seriously. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
If this had been about race, they would have been taken straight down. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
And what can I do to change things? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
This is a whole room full of people judging me. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
Intelligent and charming can only take me so far, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
but intelligent, charming and funny - that's a winner. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
I'm Adam Pearson. You might recognise me from the telly. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
I've got one of those faces. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
I live at home in Croydon with my parents | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
and my twin brother, Neil. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
I'm an actor and recently worked with Scarlett Johannson. Jealous? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
You should be. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-What's your best feature? -I like my hands. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
I have a condition called Neurofibromatosis type 1, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
which, for me, means noncancerous tumours | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
grow on nerve endings on my face. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
I'm physically disabled and disfigured, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
but I make most of myself. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I think you need to work with what you've got | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
and I'd be an idiot not to. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I get manicured, I'm partial to the odd facial... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
And ultimately, it's all leading to getting my boobs done. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I can laugh. I've lived with this for a long time. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
There you are in the garden. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
My condition was first diagnosed when I was five years old. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
There you go. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
You didn't even have the bump on your head in that one, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
so you must have been I don't know... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Less than a year, I would say. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I am quite big for less than a year. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
We just thought he had a bump on his head, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
and then, when the bump kept getting bigger, they diagnosed NF. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
My identical twin Neil has the same condition | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
but only my tumours grow on my face. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
There's Christmas again. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
-Karaoke. -Boom! | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Born for stardom. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
We went back to see this plastic surgeon. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
He said, "He will grow, the lumps won't, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
"and when he's 17, he'll look like everybody else." | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Oh... I don't know how I didn't head-butt him. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
One, because he was so patronising and two, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
because he couldn't have been more wrong, could he? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-Is that the day you started school, secondary school? -Yeah. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Yup. Day one of the longest 1,800... and however many days of my life. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:38 | |
I used to live my life by terms, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
because somehow it didn't sound quite so bad then. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-As opposed to five years. -Yeah! -15 terms! -Yeah. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
You sort of said, you know, instead of saying | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
two and a half years, you sort of said seven terms. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
It didn't sound quite so long. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Quite so traumatic. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
How old were you there? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Definitely at the sixth form because that's | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
-when I started having to buy ties. -Yeah. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Also, I didn't really have anything to celebrate at secondary school. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
-Yeah. -Apart from the day I left. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
I was badly bullied at school and it was miserable for me. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
As I developed, so did my disfigurement. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
And along with that came other people's problems with it. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
These days, I try to ignore people's stares. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
When we're out and about do you ever notice people giving me kind of... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
the eyes or...laughing at me? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
All the time. The thing that irritates me the most is | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
if people aren't content with just looking, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
they have to tap all their friends, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
then everybody's got to turn round and have a look. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And that's when I actually turn round and say something. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-Yeah. So, it does kind of piss you off? -Yes, I'm sorry, but it does. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
I understand that people have natural curiosity, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
but it isn't always easy to live with people's stares. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
And watch what happens when I sit on a busy bus. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Notice how nobody sits anywhere near me, not even on the seats behind. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Avoiding me is one thing, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
but overcompensating can sometimes be worse. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
On a night out in Croydon, I wore a wire to capture what happened. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Evening. You all right? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
Not a lot, as it goes. A few people recognise me from my movie... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
..but watch out for this drunk dude. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
You see, being disabled makes me public property. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Some strangers hugged me and patronise me. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
And elsewhere, other disabled people face this ignorance, too. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
How are you? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
'Dan, an ex-soldier who uses a wheelchair, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
'knows just how it feels.' | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
-It's more curiosity I get than anything. -Yeah. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
I've been called meals-on-wheels, big-legs McGee. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
You know, and I'll laugh at it, you know. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
But the one word I do hate and it makes my skin crawl... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
..is the word "cripple". | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
'And before we know it, ignorance is right in our faces.' | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
WOMAN: | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
No, thank you. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-I'm sorry. -Give us a wheelie! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
Yeah, I have prosthetic legs, but imagine how hard it is | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
to walk when you're drunk normally. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Try doing that in legs you can't control. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
I haven't got my legs with me this evening. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
HE MOUTHS | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Awkward! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
-I was going to do exactly the same thing! -Yeah, yeah. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
I get it a lot, just random people always come up to me. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
There's quite a thin line between inquisitive, patronising, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
and then being a dick. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Whereabouts does, "Do you want a wheelie?" sit on that line for you? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
My coping mechanism with my injury is, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
like you said, to take the piss out of it. To take the mick. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
A lot of disabled people learn from a young age to use | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
humour as a defence mechanism. I know I did. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Really good to meet you, man. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
But some things just aren't funny. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Hate crimes and hate incidents I've experienced. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Classics are "spastic", "Elephant Man", "Aw, look at his face." | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
"Does he know it isn't Halloween?" | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
"What time's the freak show?" | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
I had a guy in a club in Brighton once think | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
I was wearing a mask and come up and try and rip my face off. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
"What kind of person gives birth to someone like this?" | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
"Yes, he is an inspiration... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
"for horror films!" | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
"Adam Pearson in entertainment, that's a joke, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
"unless you're playing the Hunchback Of Notre Dame." | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
"Hideous creature." | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
I've faced this kind of prejudice all my life, starting at school. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-How you doing, man? Good to see you. -You, too. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
My friend Lucas has frontonasal craniofacial dysplasia, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
which means he has a facial disfigurement. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
He, too, does not have the fondest memories of his school days. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
What's your first memory of someone saying something to you | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-about how you look? -It was... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
My very first memory was my first day at primary school. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
This girl came up to me and asked me, she went, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
"What's wrong with your face?" | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
And I didn't have an answer for that. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
How bad did things get for you at school? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
The worst incident that I had was where one boy had me | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
pinned to the ground with his foot upon my head. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
I've also been kicked and punched and spat on, even, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
during my primary school. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
And how did that make you feel, as a kid? | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
As a kid, it was frightening. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I felt like I was incredibly unlucky that it was me | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
that had ended up with this and why is it that nobody else | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
had got this and why just me, that sort of thing. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
Were the teachers in any way helpful? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
I know for me, that they weren't. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
I remember one time they put on The Hunchback Of Notre Dame | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
in one of my lessons and one of the kids said very loudly, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
"Oh, we're watching Adam," | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
and the teacher clearly heard it because he reacted to it, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
but didn't do anything. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Were your teachers any more sympathetic to your cause? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
The teachers didn't follow up | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
on any negative behaviour that was occurring, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
so it got a lot worse. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
It became that bad that my parents decided they were going to take me | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
out of primary school and home-school me. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-I'm assuming you weren't bullied at home-school? -No. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
OK, just checking and exploring all avenues. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
Is this where the negative attitudes | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
toward disfigurement starts? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
I believe that the negative attitudes | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
are passed on through the generations. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I know that often the attitudes | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
of the parents directly affect | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
the attitudes of the children because I've had lots of instances | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
where I've been called names and things have been said to me | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
that children wouldn't come up with their own. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
For instance, I've been called "Elephant Man" | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and things like that, and I know that six-year-old children | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
don't know of that, let alone four-year-olds and three-year-olds. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
-It wasn't on my Christmas list when I was six, that film. -No, no. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
I think that it is criminal activity that's just, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
you know, starting at a younger age. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Talking to Lucas has made me realise that | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
if this kind of negative behaviour towards disability | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
goes unchecked in schools, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
it will continue to be ignored in the real world. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Prejudice against disabled people is called "disablism". | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Whilst everyone knows the words racism and homophobia, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
I'm beginning to wonder whether disablism | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
is an issue people are even aware of. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
I grabbed some unsuspecting | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
people on the streets of London to find out. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Do you know what disablism is? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
No, I don't. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
No. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Not really. Not really, no. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
No. No. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
No, I don't. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
People who are disabled or they're... | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
the way that they are. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Sorry, no. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Next. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
Do you what disablism is? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
No, I've never heard of it. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-Do you know what racism is? -Yes. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
OK, same thing. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
OK, yeah, I understand. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
30 minutes in, and not a single person has nailed it. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Then a glimmer of hope. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
Do you know what disablism is? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Disablism? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Is it people that are... | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
against people that are disabled? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Up here. Finally, bring it in. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
No-one's known. Awesome. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
What do you think disablism is? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Discrimination against disabled people. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
-High five. -That good? -Yeah. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-Disablism? -Yes. -Is it discrimination against being disabled? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
There we go. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
Up here. Yes, get in. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Well, the results of this survey are in | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
and it's not very good. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Out of everyone we spoke to, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
only three people knew what disablism was, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
and everyone else either didn't know or just told me | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
what disability was, and I...I kind of know that already. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
London, you've let me down. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
For only three people out of 18 to have known what it is, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
it's clear that the concept of disablism | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
just isn't in the public consciousness. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Is it just not deemed as important as other forms of prejudice? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
It's so under the radar that only a handful of disability hate crimes | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
have hit the headlines in the past 10 years. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Chantelle Richardson - facial disfigurement - | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
punched on a night out. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Craig Robins - partially paralysed - attacked by a gang. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Raymond Atherton - severe learning disabilities - beaten to death. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
Sickening, isn't it? | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
These are horrifying disability hate crimes | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and I wonder how many more have taken place | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
that didn't make the news. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Right in the middle of looking into all this, I turn on my computer | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
to find out I've been the target of a disablist hate incident myself. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
And it pissed me off a little bit! | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
I put an interview about a film I was in up on my YouTube page. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
You mentioned before ignorance, and | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
I'm sure the movie Under The Skin | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
is something that will change those common perceptions. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
At the end of the film, the female lead, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
the alien character, gets set on fire and burnt to death, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
and someone has posted this charming comment about me. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
"What happened to the alien at the end of the film should have happened to him at birth. Lol." | 0:14:45 | 0:14:52 | |
So, he finds the idea of me being burnt to death at birth hysterical. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
"I'll put "Lol" at the end so people know it's a joke." | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
And that is essentially genocide. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Something very similar happened to this in Germany in the '40s | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
and I hear it ended badly, and I hear it's somewhat | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
looked down upon now, with the benefit of retrospect. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
This pissed me off. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
I instantly thought, "You bastard." | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
I'm not going to let this slide on my own page. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I e-mail YouTube and they reply. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Subject - "action taken". | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
So I thought, "Ah, amazing!" | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
And the e-mail says "We are | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
"unable to identify a violation of our community guidelines | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
"within your recent report to our safety and abuse tool." | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Nothing bad happened. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Deny all knowledge. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
YouTube's guidelines are as follows... | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
The fact that YouTube have done bugger all stuns me. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
This isn't, kind of, a small company that don't know what | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
they're doing and don't understand the law - | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
this is a massive international company. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
This makes me think the problem is a lot more higher up | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
than I thought it was. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
This is going from me thinking, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
"Well, aren't people silly, don't they need educating, ha-ha-ha-ha." | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
"I will be the guy that does it!" | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
To thinking the system's just screwed. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
In danger of smashing the screen, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
I step away from the computer | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
and head out with my twin brother, Neil. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
You liking my manly cupcake, Neil? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Yes. A lovely shade of pink. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
Do you think the kind of comment I got, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
do you think that violates YouTube's policies? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
This isn't a quiz. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
I'd say it would violate their policies, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
but it's hard to tell what website's policies are. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
What we might see as something that's serious, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
a site like YouTube might not see it with the same level of severity. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
Cos the actual policy is anything that could be | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
deemed as offence or harassment aimed at an individual | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
on the grounds of race, gender, sexual orientation, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
disability or gender identity shouldn't be done. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
And so I did report it to YouTube | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
and they said there was nothing wrong with it. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Then surely, if somebody makes an offensive comment that's aimed at you | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
and is purely on grounds of disability, how much more proof | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
do you clearly need to demonstrate to YouTube to prove | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
that it's a disability hate crime | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
and not just somebody making a random comment for a laugh? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
'Neil's right, and I'm not going to let it lie.' | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Are you going to eat that cake or date it? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
That makes no sense. I've literally just picked it up. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I've been fobbed off by e-mail, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
but I'm going to old school and telephone Google, who own YouTube. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Call me David, as I'm about to take on Goliath! | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I'm almost looking for a fight cos if this had been about race | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
or had the N-word in it or what have you, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
it would have been taken straight down. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
So, I'm very much in a kind of... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
"What the fuck?" kind of mood. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
'Thank you for calling Google. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
'If you know the extension | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
'of the person you would like to speak with, press 1. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
'If you would like to contact reception, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
'please dial 0.' | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
-LINE GOES DEAD -Oh! | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
So, it doesn't go through. That's weird. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
So, I want to contact reception, so I'll dial zero. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Zero. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
And it cuts off. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
And again. Just cuts off. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
That's absolutely bonkers. That's... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
How do Google not have a receptionist? I mean... | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
And this is a company that prides itself intently on goodliness | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and are forward-thinking, all-embracing, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
revolutionary... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
And they can't pick up a telephone. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
That's...insane. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
If only there was some way they could look that up. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
Online maybe. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Would it be different if the abusive comment was about my ethnicity? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Over 42,000 people have viewed my YouTube page, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
but as far as I know, I'm the only one seeing the problem. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
But when Liam Stacey tweeted racist comments | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
about footballer Fabrice Muamba, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Twitter users across Britain reported it to the police, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
leading to Liam's arrest. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
The public recognised this as a hate crime and were rightly outraged. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
There were 44,480 hate crimes | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
recorded in England and Wales between 2013 and 2014. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Yet only 4% of these were recorded as disability hate crimes. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
Is this because they weren't happening? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Or were there many more going unrecorded? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
According to the Home Office's official crime survey | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
for England and Wales, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
there were actually an estimated | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
62,000 disability hate crimes | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
in a similar period. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
Hang on! | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Why, then, were there only 1,985 hate crimes | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
against disabled people recorded? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I need to understand why the vast majority | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
of disability hate crimes are going unrecognised. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
My mate, Hayden, has twice been the victim of disability hate crime, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
but he wasn't recorded as an official statistic. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Hayden. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-Hey, Adam. -How's it going, man? Good to see you. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
'Hayden has Crouzon syndrome. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
'Like me, he's blind in one eye, partially deaf | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'and facially disfigured.' | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
Loving the hair, as well. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
'He wears his hair over his eye to try and hide his disfigurement. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
'In a club in Milton Keynes one night, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
'he was pushed over. He believes it's because he looks different.' | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Erm, I randomly got hit and I didn't know... It all happened too fast. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
I blanked out for, like, one second | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
and I just looked up and I didn't know what happened. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Then I realised my nose was constantly bleeding. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
'Hayden reported this incident to the police.' | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
-How did the police handle that? -They saw the CCTV. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
They saw some guy, but didn't really do much about it. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
They didn't ask if you were disabled | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
or anything that involved the word "disability"? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
They didn't really ask about any disabilities I have. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
'Hayden didn't know that he could report this assault | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
'as a disability hate crime. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
'I wonder how many other incidents like this have gone unnoticed. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
'Just last week, Hayden was assaulted again in this nightclub.' | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
I asked him what he was doing, and he said something about | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
why is my hair like this? So, basically, I just said, "Well..." | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
He pushed me after that and I felt the force. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
He'd pushed me quite hard. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
And I said, "What are you doing?" | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
And his friends just pulled him back. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-And that was really the last time I saw him. -Have you reported it? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
No, I just let it go, really. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
I just didn't really bother. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
I didn't think it was that worth it. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
'I suspect many more disabled people like Hayden | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
'are just absorbing this abusive behaviour as a fact of life, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
'rather than taking action.' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
And do you think it's cos of your condition and how you look | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
that people...tend to give you more aggro | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
-than they otherwise possibly would? -Yeah, I think it is. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
That's why I've had a lot of surgery changes in my life | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
because I keep trying to make myself NOT look disabled. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Do you know much about the law surrounding hate crime - | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
disability, race, religion, et cetera? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Erm, I've never been aware of the disability hate crime situation. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
I've always been aware of, like, hate crimes, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
racism and things like that, but not about disabled people. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
'Disability hate crime | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
'and the laws around it are just not on people's radar. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
'Not even people who are disabled.' | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
And unbelievably, the law itself treats crime towards disabled people | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
as less important than other forms of hate crime. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Let me explain - if someone hits me because of my disability, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
then they could get up to six months in prison. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
But if someone hits me because I'm a different race or religion, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
they can get a longer sentence of up to two years. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
This is because a disability hate crime | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
is only considered a basic offence, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
whereas race and religious hate crimes | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
are considered aggravated offences. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Sound fair? I think not. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
The more I look into all this, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
the more determined I am to make a difference. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
I've been on the receiving end of a hate incident. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
I'm going to report it to the police | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
and I want them to take it seriously. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
I don't know how seriously the police are | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
or aren't going to take this. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
In a perfect world, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
they'd deal with it like they would any other form of hate crime. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Though, my big concern is that I'm not quite sure | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
they know what they're dealing with. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
And that disability hate crime IS a thing and IS a problem. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
And that's...what I'm going to try and find out this time. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
And it's a really disappointing result. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
He said that because they're not actively saying | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
"I'm going to come to your house and burn you alive," | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
that there's nothing they can do. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
But he then helpfully talked me through | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
how to block people on YouTube, got out his phone | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
and showed me how to do it and advised that I contact YouTube. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I've already contacted YouTube. That was my Point A. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
YouTube don't seem to see the bloody problem either. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
I feel fobbed off. I don't feel it's been taken seriously. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
And I'm slightly confused as to where I stand. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
I've spent years trying to normalise and brush off the issue | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
because it's easier to ignore it. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
But now, I'm facing it head on, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
I realise how prevalent the prejudice really is. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Having a disfigurement, you lose this anonymity. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
And become public property. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
On those bad days, you do have to put the barriers up, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and for the purposes of this journey, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
I let them down a bit and I've had to think about stuff... | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
..I wouldn't normally and had to be a bit more vulnerable | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
than I otherwise would be and it's the strangest feeling ever. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
And I've had to think about disability hate crime, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
how people react to me... I've been noticing it a lot more. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
And when you notice it a lot more, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
you have to process it a lot more and it chips away at you... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
quicker. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
I think there's times when I'm there doing the... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Adam Pearson thing. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
And I really don't want to be doing it. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
I'm not the only one with a disability | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
who's not being listened to. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
There are some shocking incidents of disability hate crime | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
that weren't taken seriously. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Take the tragic case of Fiona Pilkington, whose daughter, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Francesca Hardwick, was disabled. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Across ten years, she made 33 complaints to Leicestershire Police | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
about hate crime incidents and no action was taken. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Fiona ended up taking her own life along with Francesca's. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
23-year-old Brent Martin, who had learning disabilities, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
died in hospital after three trained boxers attacked him | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
over a £5 bet to see who could knock him out first. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Brent's murder wasn't recognised in court as being aggravated | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
by their hatred of his disability and, alarmingly, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
all their sentences were reduced on appeal. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Enough is enough. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
I have to pick myself up and keep going. I can't let ignorance win. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
'I need to find out where I stand on the abusive comment I received, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
'so I travel to Brighton to meet Dr Mark Walters...' | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-Mark? Adam. -Adam, nice to meet you. How are you? -I'm good, thank you. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
'..a specialist in hate crime laws from Sussex University.' | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
The comment is, "What happened to the alien at the end of the film | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
"should have happened to him at birth. Lol." | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Oh, crikey. That's horrible. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
I showed this to the police, I reported it. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
And they said, legally, there's nothing they can do. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
But is that a hate crime? | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-That, to me, is clearly an example of hate speech. -Mm-hm. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:11 | |
So, there are various different pieces of legislation | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
that this could be pursued under, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and I think that the police were incorrect to just say to you, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
"There's nothing we can do about this." | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-They should have at least investigated this properly. -Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Because not only is this a case of, erm... | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
..stating that you should have been killed at birth, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
but it's aggravated by the fact that they're referring to your disability. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
-Yeah. -I'm pretty alarmed by this. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
I'm assuming that you were probably quite distressed by it. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
-I was not best pleased. -Erm, and... | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
..it could be interpreted as being abusive. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
So, there are three pieces of legislation | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
that are relevant to that message. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
And the police should have taken that seriously. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Hate crime laws protect five different minority groups | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
on the grounds of race, religion, sexual orientation, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
transgender and disability. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
But, unfairly, there are different laws that cover these groups, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
and disability is excluded from certain hate crimes laws. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
If you're going to prescribe and legislate against hate crime, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
and you've identified five different groups | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
that are deserving of protection, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
where there is clearly an issue of targeted violence, targeted abuse, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
you need to treat all of those equally in law. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Cos if you don't, it sends out the unintended message that those groups | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
-are less worthy of protection than other groups. -Yeah. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
And I just think that's not acceptable. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Do you think they should - all five characteristic groups - | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
should be included just under one piece of legislation, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
under one banner? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:49 | |
Yes. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
If disability hate crime is not treated equally in law, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
how can we expect the rest of society to take it seriously? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
As I'm pondering how you go about changing the law, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
a strange thing happens. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
After a week of the abusive comment being on my YouTube page, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
it mysteriously vanishes. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I wonder if it's because I mentioned it to my friend | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
who works at Google. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
No, no-one contacted me at all to say the comments...were coming down. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
They just came down. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
It must have all happened... It probably all happened internally. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Between... With the e-mail my friend sent | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
and whoever he sent it to. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
I have no idea what happened behind the scenes. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
It would be really good to find out. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Once upon a time, I'd have just let this lie, but now I want to know | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
why they didn't react to the disablist hate speech right away. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
Hello, Adam Pearson. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
'After an e-mail to their press office, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
'I finally get to speak to someone.' | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Yeah, no, now's a completely good time to talk, yeah. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Yes, that's... And I did do that. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
'What they're telling me is that I can moderate my own page | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
'and restrict comments I don't like.' | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Bye. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
It does sound a bit like they're passing the buck back to the user | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
and saying, "Well, you can just delete it yourself" | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
or you can moderate all things yourself. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
They also told me it's often up to their moderators to interpret | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
what is hate speak and what is not. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
I wonder what part of "should have been burnt to death at birth" | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
is open to interpretation. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
I thought anything deemed to be offensive | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
and relating to a person's disability | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
is considered hate speech. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
The policy seemed really firm, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
and she seemed really firm. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
But their actions that led to this...didn't. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
I'm not satisfied, and have asked to meet someone in person. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
I want acknowledgement that they fucked up, cos they did. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Otherwise the comment wouldn't have mysteriously disappeared. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
And I want to know that there's solid processes in place | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
for people who don't have a friend that works at Google. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
I have to wait to hear if someone is willing to meet me. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
From Google to the police not taking this incident seriously, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I'm starting to wonder | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
if there's a bigger problem at the top that has filtered down. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
From 2013 to 2014, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
there were 10,532 racially and religiously motivated hate crimes | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
convicted in England and Wales | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
and only 470 disability hate crimes convicted. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Whilst there were more racially | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
and religiously motivated hate crimes overall, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
the difference between these numbers is so huge | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
that as well as these crimes going under the radar, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
it could also suggest that there's something worrying going on | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
in the way these crimes are being prosecuted. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
In 2013, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Michael Fuller, Chief Inspector of the Crown Prosecution Service, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
published a report revealing that disability hate crime | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
specifically was being overlooked in the way it was prosecuted. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
-Hi, Michael. -Hello, Adam. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Pleased to meet you. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
Is it lack of awareness, or is it cos the police, juries, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
et cetera, don't understand the issue? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
What the inspection found is the police officers, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
they often feel very awkward | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
about asking people about their disability. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
So, they feel uncomfortable about that and, as a result, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
offences they may come across or be called to | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
aren't always recorded in the way that they should be. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
So, issue number one - the police are too embarrassed | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
to ask about disabilities, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:49 | |
so aren't recording incidents as disability hate crimes. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
Why do you think, when it does make it to court, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
it seems to be taken less seriously than other forms of hate crime? | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
There is quite a serious problem there, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
in that there's a duty on the prosecutor to highlight to the court | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
that a particular offence is a disability hate crime. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
And there is a legal provision that enables them to do that. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Issue number two - prosecutors aren't stating to the courts | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
that these offences are disability hate crimes, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
so they're not being convicted as such. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
And what we've found is that legal provision, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
the sentence uplift, was not being used enough | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
and, as a result, the sentences weren't reflecting the seriousness | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
of the disability hate crimes. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Issue number three - | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
if they were highlighted as disability hate crimes, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
then judges would have to hand out longer sentences, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
though still not as long as for other hate crimes. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
So, the system is failing disabled people? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
I don't know about failing, it's that the... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
the legal provisions that are already there | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
are not being used in the way that they should be. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
It was really refreshing to talk to someone | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
who was so open and honest about the issue. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Michael Fuller seems to think that the laws for disability hate crime | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
are fine, they're just not being used properly, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
and, to a degree, I get his point. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
But if judges aren't aware of the uplift for disability hate crime | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
and how to use it and how to apply it, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
then it just simply won't be used. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
So raising awareness is really, really important. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
It's no wonder that disablism and disability hate crime | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
don't register as an issue with ordinary people. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
If the police have been failing, and so have the courts, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
then the whole system has gone wrong from the top down. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
It'll take a lot more than just me | 0:35:42 | 0:35:43 | |
getting on my soapbox to change the justice system. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
My only hope is that since Michael's report, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
the Crown Prosecution Service have drawn up an action plan. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
And I'm told their response is improving, as is that of the police. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
But let's face it, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
this kind of thing could take years to come through. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
I want to understand more | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
about what leads people to carry out disability hate crimes. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
What causes this prejudice? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
Take the movies - baddies always seem to have... | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
scars, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
burns, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
hooks, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
or even sometimes just a big nose. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
What does a villain look like? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
They have to be kind of...different from everyone else. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
They all have something scary about them, like, physically. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
The Joker, Two-Face, a lot of the Bond bad guys have disfigurements. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
Why do you think they do? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
-Ooh. -That's a tough question. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
I haven't really...thought of that. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Society, like, makes them seem like they're scary. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
Because they're different from people or they look different. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
I think it goes back to old prejudices | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
about the way that people look. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
And do you think that's a fair portrayal of disfigurement? | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
-It's biased. -The way that somebody looks has absolutely no bearing | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
on the way that they are. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
And so do you think I'm a bad guy? How bad could I be? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
SHE LAUGHS You seem nice enough. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
So, the industry's being lazy, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
using disfigurement as a shorthand for evil. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
And people don't even seem to question it. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
But is it just negative stereotypes that cause prejudice | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
against disabled people, or does it run deeper than that? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Why do people hate me when they don't know me? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
What is it that's going on in their heads? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
-Hi, Miles. Good to meet you. -Hi, Adam. Very good to meet you. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
'I'm hoping Professor Miles Hewstone, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
'who specialises in prejudice work | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
'at Oxford University's psychology department can help me with this.' | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
So, why do you think people are prejudiced | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
to particularly people with disabilities and disfigurements? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
I think in the case of a group such as people with facial disfigurements, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
we'd be looking much more at the kind of emotions that people were feeling. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
The pronounced feeling people would have is one of anxiety | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
and I think a great deal of this | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
is that they have never met somebody like you before. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
As well as prejudice, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
what else going on when someone commits a hate crime? | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
The kind of people who are engaged in hate crime | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
against somebody like yourself | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
are people feeling those very strong emotions like disgust or contempt, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
which I think is due to their inability | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
to deal with their own feelings | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
and then it makes them behave in extreme ways. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
They, if you like, are the problem, not you. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
I was starting to worry, "Maybe I'm just an arsehole?" | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
But, no, it's good to know that I'm... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
-Well, you might be. -Whoa, whoa, whoa! | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
But that's different! THEY LAUGH | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
Do you think prejudice is in-built or hard-wired into people? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
I don't believe that it comes hard-wired. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
The most important thing is it doesn't come | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
in some kind of form that is not changeable. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
We have plenty of evidence that it can be changed. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
I hope Miles is right, that people's prejudice can be changed, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
and he's agreed to help me test this. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
If I spend some time with people | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
who feel prejudiced towards facial disfigurement, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
will meeting me in person have any effect on their prejudice levels? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
A group of ten randomly selected people | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
agreed to take part in this experiment, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
most of whom have never spent time with a disfigured person. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
What we'd like to ask you to do first | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
is to sit at one of these computers here... | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
They haven't met me yet, and don't know what we're testing. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
From now on, please just follow the instructions | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
that are all presented on the screen. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
First, we need to we need to measure their base prejudice levels. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
To do this, we'll use an established test | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
which works out their subconscious bias against disfigured faces. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
The test measures people's automatic, uncontrollable responses | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
to images of disfigured and non-disfigured faces | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
so they are unable to give answers they may consciously want to give. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
These are tests that you can't control, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
and that we are, in a sense, all victims of our experiences. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:17 | |
A score of 100% | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
shows the highest level of subconscious prejudice, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
and 0% shows the least. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
When you get to the final screen, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:26 | |
write it down on a piece of paper in front of you. Thank you. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
The score showed high levels of innate bias. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
Katie scored 100%. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
Do you think anything could be done to change the way you respond? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
Um... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
I don't know. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:43 | |
It's obviously showing something that I'm automatically doing | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
in my brain that I wasn't at all aware of, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
and certainly not consciously aware of. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Ameer also scored 100%. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-Are you surprised? -Oh, I'm definitely surprised, yeah. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Yeah. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Kelvin scored 71%. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
It shocked me - I would have thought I was at least average, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
if not better than that. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
I feel that I'm sympathetic, empathetic, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
and obviously the implicit results showed otherwise. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
Most of the group have little experience with disfigured people, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
but then Iwan scores a low 6%. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Where's that come from? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
I've had some experience, like, with people with facial disfigurement, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
-but not in recent times. -Uh-huh. How was that? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
How did you come to have that experience? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
-I've done care work previously. -Uh-huh. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
-And I guess you spend more time than, probably, usual... -Right. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
Apart from Iwan's, these are high levels of innate prejudice, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
so I had my work cut out, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
because what happens next is the real test. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
I'm now going to take you downstairs, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
and guess what - I'm going to introduce you to somebody | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
whose face you've just seen. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
This second part of the experiment has never been tested before. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
If this group spend time getting to know me, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
will their prejudice levels reduce? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Miles has told them to ask me questions, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
to help them start to develop a relationship with me. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
Then, they'll be tested again. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
I have one hour, and a game of giant Jenga, to help me break the ice. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
LAUGHTER AND GROANS | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
That's ridiculous! | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
I am much cooler than that in real life. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
'They start with some basic questions...' | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
-Where do you live? -Croydon. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
So, how old are you? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
I'm 29. Nearly 30. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
'..but for this to really work, they need to get more personal.' | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-Somebody asked me upstairs - I think it was you... -Yeah. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
..who asked me about whether you could ask anything you wanted. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
With your... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
..with your facial disfigurement, is your twin... | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
..an identical twin? | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Yes, he is. Though the condition affects him differently. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
-And are you close? -Um... We don't have any of that kind of... | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
People are like, "Do you have those, like, twin moments?" | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
And... Well, one time someone hit him in the head | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
and my fist really hurt, but apart from that, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
we've had none of those kind of psychic moments. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
How, um...is your eyesight at all affected? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
Yes - I'm blind in this eye. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:24 | |
I lost this eye when I was about ten, | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
and I've been partially sighted in this one since about the same age. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
I was worried when I saw Adam downstairs | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
after we'd finished playing the Jenga game - | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
he was talking, and there was quite a large physical distance | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
between him and everybody else. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
I worried that maybe the reason people were pulling back | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
like that was because of this anxiety, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
and that they would just feel they didn't want to get too close to him. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
The group will now take the test again, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
to see if getting to know me has had any effect. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
Please just do the test exactly as you did before, OK? | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
Just because they've now met me, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
they still can't affect the results of the test. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
It measures the brain's automatic responses to the images they see. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
And, as before, please leave the score up at the end. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Will their prejudice scores come down, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
or are people's biases unchangeable? | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
This is only a one-off experience, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
but we are asking that an hour or so today can undo the events | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
and experiences of a lifetime - so, maybe that's very optimistic. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
The results are coming in. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
Kelvin's first score was 71%, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
and it's now dropped to 50%. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Katie's score was 100%, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
then fell to 42%. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
Ameer, how did your second test go, compared with your first test? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
It was really different. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
Ameer's first score was 100%. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
Amazingly, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:51 | |
this has fallen to just 12%. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
Why do you think your score has changed so much? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
Just meeting him - | 0:44:58 | 0:44:59 | |
when we first went in, the way I looked at him was very different. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
-Yeah. -I looked at his face, and focused, really, on his face... -Yes. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
..and then, towards the end of it, I realised | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
I had actually started processing a different mental image of him. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-Yeah. -It absolutely had an effect. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
So, what were the overall results for the group? | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
The scores have become much less prejudiced, taking the test again. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
Nine out of ten people considerably reduced their prejudice score. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:26 | |
Getting this group of people together to meet someone like Adam | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
has shown me the power of face-to-face interaction | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
with somebody from a group that you have no contact with. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
Looking at the test, I'm even more positive about that, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
because in nine out of ten people - so, overall, a clear tendency | 0:45:41 | 0:45:47 | |
for prejudicial reactions to be reduced as a result of meeting Adam. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:53 | |
Actually meeting a person | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
who actually has facial disfigurement | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
has really sort of helped me personally to understand what | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
it's like to live with that kind of disability. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
I think I felt nervous initially, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:04 | |
because I didn't know how he was going to react to us. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
Once he started speaking, that broke down the barriers, and certainly, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
now we're all relaxed with him. We see beyond his disfigurement. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
I was ridiculously encouraged | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
to find out what happened after the group had met me. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
I expected a few people's results to be better the second time round | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
than the first time, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
but nine out of ten is an astonishingly good number. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
This is a massive breakthrough. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:44 | |
I've discovered that I can effect a change in people's prejudice | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
towards disfigurement | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
just by spending time with them. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
If people getting to know me can lower their prejudice and fear, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
then maybe reaching people on a larger scale | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
can help reduce hate crime. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
But how? | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
One of the ways I put people at ease during the experiment | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
was by making them laugh. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
I've been using humour in this way all my life. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
At secondary school, when you kind of...get bullied a lot, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
and just go through, kind of, a crap time, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
you become the funny guy. Everyone likes the funny guy. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
I was always naturally quite witty and funny, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
I just didn't know how to use it properly. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
And so, when I kind of grew up and matured a bit, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and kind of became more, I guess, self-secure and self-aware, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
you can start using it appropriately and properly, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
and realise that you don't need to use it as a defence mechanism, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
you can use it just to make what could be an awkward situation | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
for someone else a little less awkward for them. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
Hello! | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
Hello, everyone. Do come and make yourselves at home. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I've always wanted to try stand-up comedy. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Perhaps this is a way for me to reach out to a wider audience - | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
but I need some lessons if I'm going to get this right. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
I'm a bit nervous about this, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
because a lot hangs on me being funny. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
I think intelligent and charming can only take me so far - | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
but intelligent, charming and funny - that's a winner. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
I also want to test out in the real world, will these people feel | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
more comfortable around me if I can make them laugh? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
I'd like you to stand up, and, to the group, say who you are, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
and why you're here. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
I'm Suzie - Suzie Steed, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
which apparently is a really good name for comedy. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
I'm Jim Hooper, and... | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
Yeah, I should really be doing work at the moment. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Hi, I'm Adam Pearson. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
I'm here because my girlfriend has confiscated my PlayStation 4, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
and so I have absolutely nothing else to do. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
Did anyone stand out to you when you first arrived? | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Yes. Adam did. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
When I first glanced at him, I thought, "Is that..." | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
You know, "Is that really his face?" | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
I actually, honestly, I have to say, I thought he was wearing a mask. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Of course it was a shock to them when they first saw me - | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
but if the experiment has proved anything, they should feel | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
more comfortable with me the more time they spend with me. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
One of you is going to choose to be high status, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
and one of you to be low status. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
We're paired off to work on improvised sketches. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
-You've not just let me down... -HE SNIFFS | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
-VOICE BREAKS: -You've let yourself down. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
You know - very funny, I thought. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
I was surprised that that was, like, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
his first time doing those activities, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
and I was saying, you know, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:36 | |
"You're really naturally a funny bloke." | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
So, I want you to stand here for one minute as an expert | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
on one subject that I'm going to give you. All right? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
That's all you have to do. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:46 | |
And your time starts now. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
'I may have a good sense of humour, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
'but can I make people laugh for a whole minute?' | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
That's a minute, that's a minute - brilliant! | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
What a brilliant joke at the end - in my opinion. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
And I'm last up. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Good ways and bad ways of letting somebody down gently - | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
and your time starts now. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:07 | |
OK, so, we have to let people down, that's a fact. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
And there are ways of doing it well, with decorum, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
that means that you can still talk to your ex, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
and they don't take out a restraining order against you, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
and there are bad ways to do it. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:22 | |
For example, don't do this - I learned it the hard way. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
"Hey, babe, how are you? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
"Kiss - yeah - kiss - I'm fine. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
"Everyone that has a boyfriend, take one step forward. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
"Whoa, whoa, whoa." | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:32 | 0:50:33 | |
Don't sit them down and go, "It's not you, it's me. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
"I'm the one that's been...fucking your sister." | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
That's a minute - that's a minute, that's all you get. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
We don't get to the end of the anecdote. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
He was much more confident than I thought he would be. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
It just changes - you think... | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
I mean, I'll be saying to people, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:55 | |
"God, I met this guy who was disfigured, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
"and he was really funny." | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
He participated exactly the same as anyone else, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
and was incredibly funny, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
which meant, then, the outstanding thing was, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
we were all shocked that he'd never done it before. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Did you find Adam's disfigurement stopped standing out | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
-the more time you spent with him? -Absolutely. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
You completely stopped noticing it. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
You know, you were just talking to Adam. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
So, it seems I can use humour to reduce fears and put people at ease. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
And now I want to get out there and make people laugh. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
I'm really buzzing right now. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
Aah! | 0:51:26 | 0:51:27 | |
This was crazy. This, to me, was the acid test | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
to - am I as funny as I think I am? | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
And I'm... | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
And to be in a room full of nine other people | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
that have done this before, and me kind of having my first lesson, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
trying to pretend I'd done this before was really nerve-racking. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
I've definitely got a bit of a taste for it now. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
But before I embark on my life of fame, riches and world domination... | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
Time to see what my mum thinks. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
We did this stand-up comedy class. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
But then they're all on your side, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
they would have probably felt sorry for you | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
and they thought, "Oh, we'll laugh." SHE LAUGHS | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
-Well, that's a bit... -Mean! -That's a bit mean! | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
I'm not entirely sure that's not a hate crime. Bloody hell, this... | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
This went south really quickly! | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
'Could my own mother be a disablist?!' | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Out of curiosity, do you know what disablism is? | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
-Not really, no, but I can imagine what it is. -What do you think it is? | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
Give me an educated guess as to what disablism is? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
-Prejudice against people with disabilities? -Exactly. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
'Good old Mum! I was starting to worry. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
'Google, who I'm in no way at all calling disablist, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
'refused to meet with me about the hate speech I received. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
'However, they've sent me the following statement in an e-mail.' | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
'Yeah. I was pretty disappointed with that, too. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
'With Google's support, or without, I've got my own ideas as to | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
'how I'm going to start educating | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
'and engaging with people on the issue. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
'I've been booked on my first ever comedy gig - | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
'and I'm bricking it.' | 0:53:30 | 0:53:31 | |
I have no idea how this is going to go. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
This is a whole room full of people...judging me. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
I think I'm hilarious, but other people might incorrectly disagree. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
What I've learned through this whole journey is that | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
if people are kind of exposed to disability | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
and disfigurement in a positive way, through comedy, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
then they kind of become less hostile towards it, | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
which then in turn breaks down prejudice, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
which breaks down hate crime. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
# She's been waiting around | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
# Saving for her time... # | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
A-agh! You know, I'm building this up too much in my head. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
I'm doing the kind of worst-case scenario that someone's going | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
to heckle me and I'm going to get into an argument with a random guy. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:24 | |
I'm on in about... | 0:54:24 | 0:54:25 | |
..10 minutes, Jesus! | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
OK, 10 minutes. There's nowhere to hide. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
It's you, a mic and a mic stand. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
Phew! Bloody hell. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
Why am I going to do this?! | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
OK, breathe...! | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
Good, OK, let's do this! | 0:54:50 | 0:54:51 | |
It's my pleasure to introduce a stand-up comedian, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
his name is Adam Pearson. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
This is going to be his stand-up comedy debut, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
so give it up for Adam! | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
Some of you might recognise me from the telly. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
Um, I've got one of those faces. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
And so... | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
So, yeah, being disabled's weird cos people ask you, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
like, ridiculous questions. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
Like, I used to live in Brighton when I studied, and we had the gas | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
man come round one day, and I was the only person in, so I let him in. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
And he was being a bit funny with me the whole time, and then as he left | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
he just turned to me and went, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
"My friend Bill's got a disfigurement. Do you know him?" | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
"Well, my friend Rob is a bit of a twat. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
"Do you know him?" | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
And then, to make it more awkward, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
it turns out I did, in fact, know Bill. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
We, in fact, dated the same girl for a while. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
'I've had to stare into the ugly face of disability hate crime, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
'and I've learned that I've got to stand up and be counted. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
'I'm going to continue getting in people's faces and sorting | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
'out their attitudes, but I can't effect the change all on my own. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
'The police, the justice system, the media, society in general, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
'it's your responsibility, too. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
'And for all those that still have a problem with it - get over it, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
'cos I now know you can.' | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
APPLAUSE AND WHISTLING | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 |