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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
'I'm Rosa Monckton. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
'For the past decade I've been campaigning for people with disabilities.' | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
-This is a 10. It just depends on shape. -Mummy! | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
'This is my daughter, Domenica, who has Down's Syndrome.' | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
-What sort of size are you? Quite small. -Ten. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
'She's about to turn 16.' | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
If you're taking me to the Queen! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
'It's a milestone for any young person | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
'but if they have learning disabilities, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
'they have even more challenges ahead.' | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
We're back on air! | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I try to have fun, but it's not that fun. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
For those who are more able, how independent can they really be? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
-Are you good with money? Is it something you could do alone? -No. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
How do they find homes that are safe and secure? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Bad people. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
It just scared him to death and that just finished Richard off. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
And as a mother, is it ever really possible to let go? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
It's that constant 24 hour worry, and it's terrifying. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
What's going to happen to Jess? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
-All right, take it out and put it in your hand. -Mum! | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
It's not as easy as people think to just let go of your children. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
Oh, Mum! | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
-"Solo, Domenica Lawson." -Oh, solo. -I know. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
"Choreography, Domenica Lawson." Are you impressed? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
I'm amazed. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
CHEERING | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Since she was a young girl, Domenica has had one great love in her life. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Dance. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Tonight, she's appearing on stage at her annual school show | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
and we've come to support her. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
She's the only performer with a learning disability on the stage | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
and she's just about keeping in step. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Like any parent, I'm always proud to see my daughter on the stage. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
She loves to dance but I do remember | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
shortly after she was born | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
being told she may never walk or even sit up. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
You were so good, darling. Were you talking to yourself? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-Were you telling yourself what to do? -I was kind of nervous. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
But you were good. You didn't look nervous. It was fantastic. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Thank you, Mummy. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
'For Domenica it's a rare pleasure to appear as an equal | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
'with other young people of her age.' | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Here, doggy. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
My stage name - Mega Awesome. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
I really can hardly believe that Domenica is about to be 16. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
On the surface, she seems to be very like her peers, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
but from now on her life is going to be very, very different | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
and as her mother, I know how very vulnerable she is. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
We have to plan ahead for when we're dead. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
And now is the time I have to seriously start thinking | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
about her future. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
About where she goes, where she ends up and what she does | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and how to protect her. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
'It fills me with fear of the future. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
'It's a very difficult moment.' | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Welcome to our village. Our shop. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Our school. Our pub. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
This is 17-year-old Jack. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Like Domenica, he has Down's Syndrome | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
and has lived most of his life in a tiny community. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
I've lived here for ages. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
I try to have fun, but it's not that fun. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
It's always been this way. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Done! | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
This place, I don't know, it's really boring. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Boring right now. That's how I feel in my life. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
'I've come to Devon to meet Jack and his parents, Ronny and Rod, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
'to see how they're preparing for Jack's future.' | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-I'm Rod. -Hi Rod, Rosa. Very nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you too. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Oh, nice and warm in here. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
'Jack's got two sisters | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
'who are already leading normal teenage lives.' | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Good morning, everyone. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Jack, do you want to come and meet Rosa? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-Slobbery kiss, Rosa. -Hello, Rosa. -Hi Jack. Very nice to meet you. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
-Yes, very nice to meet you. -How was school? -Yes, really amazing. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Good. So, once you've left school and taken all your exams, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
what do you want to be and where do you want to live? | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
-I want to live in Las Vegas. -Las Vegas! -Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Why do you want to go there? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
It's just, erm... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
I'm not sure. It's a great place. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
And I would have like great jobs in Las Vegas | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
like being a writer, lawyer, photographer. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Yeah, I just want to be famous. That's what I want to be. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
Jack, why do you want to be famous? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
I just want to be. I just want my dreams to come true. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Live in Las Vegas and then be famous. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
He's just now very aware of his condition | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
but he wants to be just like everybody else. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
The people of his age are all talking about boyfriends, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
girlfriends, going out clubbing, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
having a great time, you know, all the normal things. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
But he does not... he can't join in. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
And one of the difficulties with Jack is his ambitions, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
so what we're trying to achieve at the moment, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
is working out which way he should go in the future. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
What does that involve? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
Well, finding Jack a job | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
that will really suit him and make him happy. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Not something because they've had to fit in. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
So realistically, what would that be? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Erm, something that Jack is capable of doing, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
so he loves his photography so, practically, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
if he had dedicated teachers, he could learn to do photography. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
-I know you're saying realistically... -Let's be realistic. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
Will Jack take the photos that appear on the front of The Times? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
I mean, I can't see anybody paying him | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
to do what he really, really wants to do, you know. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
How do you know? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
I don't but I'm just saying, realistically. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
I never say never. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
If we don't have those ambitions for our children, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
then no-one else is going to. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Yes, I got it in! | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
'Ronny is like every mother of a disabled child. She wants the absolute best for him. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
'She'll fight tooth and nail until her dying day to give him | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
'as independent a life as it's possible for him to have.' | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-Thank you. -Bye. Have a safe journey. -Yes, I will. Bye-bye. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
One of the things that you have to do as a parent | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
is to work out exactly WHAT they are capable of. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
-That's it! -And how much can we plan for them | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
within the limitations of what's possible? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Domenica's leaving school with barely any qualifications. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
What's happened to your thing? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
'And I'm wondering what kind of work it's realistic for her to do.' | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
Have you got your lip salve? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
It's upstairs. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Run and get it and let see if I can find another cardigan, that's too small. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
'For Domenica's work experience, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
'I've arranged for her to spend a week | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
'at a hotel close to our home, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
'staffed by people with learning disabilities.' | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Are you still off to see the wizard? Good morning. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Domenica has come here to learn how to work in a hotel. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
How to wait at tables. How to wash up. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
How to clear away and how to be part of a team. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
Apart from anything else, what it will teach her is life skills. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-Have you got a question? -Yeah. -Go on, then. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
Er, in the restaurant, what do you do if you serve them? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
When you serve them? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
I don't want to show her her limitations. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I think that's the wrong way of looking at it, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
but to manage her expectations. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Hello, ma'am. What are you going to have? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Say - "Are you ready to order?" | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Ready to order. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
Yes, I'll have the... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Prawn cocktail. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
-OK. -If you're struggling with what to write, I'll help you. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Thank you. I can't. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Less than one in five people with learning disabilities | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
manage to get a job, and most of those are part-time or unpaid. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-Can you come here? -Yes, I'm right here with you. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
-Come here. -Yeah, I'm coming. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
For Domenica, it's a real challenge | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
to even think of serving as a waitress. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
-Stand that side. -Are you ready to order? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Say, "What would you like?" | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
What would you like? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
-I think I'll have the lasagne. -The prawn cocktail, please. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
-Here. -Lovely, thank you very much. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
No, Domenica. Sorry. The lady in the window. That's it. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:41 | |
Here. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
I know that all she wants to do is be a star on the West End stage. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
For her, and it's wonderful, the sky is the limit. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
She thinks she's capable of doing absolutely anything at all, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
and I love that part of her | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
but equally I don't want her to become a disappointed adult. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Where put it? -On the table. Very, very carefully. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
And if we can give her some basic skills, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
who knows, down the line she may be able to use them. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
And perhaps getting a job in a cafe or in a restaurant, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
and to give her some sense of self-worth, you know, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
to get out of bed and feel she's being a useful member of society. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
-I did it! -Well done. See, you can do it. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
I can't believe it. High five. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
I know that it has to be done. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
I know that I have to let my daughter go and be independent | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
but it makes me very fearful, very fearful. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
You have to keep going because it has to be the right thing | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
for the child, to cut the umbilical cord. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
But I just wish that there was more out there to protect them. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
As a campaigner, I hear all too often of the difficulties | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
young people face when they attempt to move out of the family home. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-I'll be your lackey. -Yes! | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Richard has Down's Syndrome. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Concentrate on your breakfast. I don't like my sausages burnt. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
He is now back living with his parents | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
after an attempt at living on his own went badly wrong. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
He's very artistic. That's his breakfast. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Six years ago, Richard moved in to a flat on his own, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
rented privately by his mother, Dawn. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
In the daytime he went to an activity centre, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
in the evenings and overnight, he was supported by carers provided by the local authority. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
In total, Richard had 16 hours of support every day. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
He was really excited, really excited. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Couldn't contain him, really. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
He was just wanting to get there. He thought it was absolutely fantastic | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
to have his own key, move into his own flat. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-Have his own space. -Yes. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
The flat is just a few minutes' walk from the family home. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-It was like the moving on. -Yes. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
The next steps. But the next steps didn't work. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Almost straight away, things started to go wrong, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
and Richard soon had problems with his new neighbours. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
So, here we are at the flat | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
and the one just over there was Richard's flat. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
-That one. -Which one? To the left of the door? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
With the pipe going up. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
This is what we thought was Richard's lifetime home | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
and it turned out not to be. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
And it just brings back a lot of anger. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
The upset, the stress we had, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
it just brings a whole lot of bad memories. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
You wanted to live there on your own, didn't you? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
-Yes. -And then what went wrong? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
The bad people. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
They're silly. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
They were silly. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Naughty. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Did they swear at you? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
-Yeah. -Use the F word? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And what else did they do? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Er... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
Come in. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
-They knocked your door, didn't they? -Yeah. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Perhaps shouted at you through your door. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Yes, they did. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Did they come when the supporters were there | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-or did they come when you were on your own? -On my own. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-When you were on your own. -Yeah. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
And you can't express yourself, can you, Richard? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
You have a job, if people upset you, you get very upset, don't you? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
-Yeah. -You get very upset, where, I suppose, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
you and I'd perhaps have it out and sort it out. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
And he was very upset and he started pulling post out of their post box, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
-didn't you, and hiding it? -Yes. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
On one occasion he wrote his name in felt tip on their front door. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
It just didn't work, no. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
And, the tipping point was the last weekend, which was at the flat. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yep. -He had abusive phone calls. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
His electricity was switched on and off several times throughout the evening. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
He had someone spit on his front door | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
and it just scared him to death. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-Mm. -And that just finished Richard off. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
-Is it a bad memory for you? -Yes. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
It is. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Look at you. Completely obsessed with Dr Who. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Exterminate! | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
'Richard clearly struggled living on his own, even with lots of support.' | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
Yeah, bye. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
'Dawn has to start planning all over again for his future.' | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
I know I've got to think about it but it's not something I relish. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
Not something we're looking forward to. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-But actually you have to. -I have to. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It's very hard cos I do worry what will happen. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Particularly after the experience you've had, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
-you had a big package of care, and still it didn't work. -It still failed. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
And do you think you'd go and live on your own again? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Er... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
-No. -No. No. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
There was one older carer who said to me once, she said, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
in some ways I hope my son dies before me | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
because then I know everything will be all right. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
I've heard that many times, too. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Because, you know, I dread what could happen to him. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
I want to stay here. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
You'll stay here, yeah. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
-Thank you very much. -Erm, yes. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
'They had all the care in place. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
'As much as is possible, a huge care package, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
'but there are so many people out there' | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
who don't actually want people like Richard or Domenica | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
living next to them out in the community. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-OK. -Bye. See ya. -Bye. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Imagine if Richard had been in that flat in 20 years' time | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and then there's no Dawn around. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Who would have looked after him? Who would have picked up the pieces? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Where would he have gone? No home to go back to. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
You know, it is the recurring nightmare | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
for parents with children with learning disabilities. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And as soon as this is finished, you're on. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Go on. Go for it. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
This is Jack live, radio station at Soundart FM. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:42 | |
-Here we are. -Brilliant. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
In Devon, Jack's got a placement at a community radio station, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
organised by his mother, Ronny. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
So, what's your first track? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
My first track's Michael Jackson, She's Out Of My Life. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
There you go. Now you take it easy for three minutes! | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
'Round the corner from Jack's house is a place where he could live | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
'when Ronny feels he's ready to leave home.' | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
This is the start of it. You see that's quite... | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Both sides of the road? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
No, just one side. You just live in the village. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
It's a community for young adults with learning disabilities, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
even though it's just five minutes from her home, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Ronny has not yet had a proper look inside. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-Thank you very much. And how many of you live in here? -Er, four of us. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Four of you, yes. Hello. Hello. I'm Rosa, who are you? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
-Yvette. -Hello, Yvette. How are you? -OK. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-And do you live in this house as well? -Yeah. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
-And do you like living here? -No! -No?! | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It's OK really, here. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Good, I'm pleased to hear that. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-I like my red wine. -Oh, do you? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
-Will you invite me to the next party you have here, please? -Yes. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
'It costs £800 a week to stay here, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
'with places funded by local authorities.' | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
So at the weekends and on Wednesday evenings | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
and Saturday mornings, there's cleaning jobs. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Hannah is one of 12 young adults living here. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
She's one of the more able residents, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
but the community accepts anyone without a major physical disability. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
I'd love you see your bedroom. Yeah? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
-It might be a bit messy. -It's not messy at all. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-This is really nice. Isn't it lovely? -Yes. Good. -Lovely colour. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Very good. Can we see the kitchen? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Love to see that. -Oh, this is nice, isn't it? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Yes, and this is all our jobs. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-Oh I see, that's a very good idea. -That's brilliant. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
So I'm doing the floor this evening. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
And then I'm cooking on Wednesday night. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
This is all our jobs we have to do, so it goes in a rota. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
-Very well organised, isn't it? -Yes. -Are you living here? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
-No, I'm a support worker. I come and go. -I see. -As we all do. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Is there somebody who lives in at night time? | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
-There's two sleep-ins, yes. -Two sleep-ins. -Yes. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
It seems like walking into somebody's house. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
-It's... yes, it's home. -It's home. -It's home. -It's home, not a home. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-No. -And that is a huge difference. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
It's home. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
Is there a chance that somebody could just stay here for ever? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
You know, as we all get older, our needs change so, no. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
You cannot say it's a home for life. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-Bye, Mikey. -Bye! -Nice to see you. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
What a wonderful place. Fantastic atmosphere. Just like a home. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
Rota of duties, like student digs, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
and everybody we've met seems really happy and settled | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
and it's exactly the right sort of thing | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
for young people with learning disabilities. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-Thank you. -That's all right. -See you soon. Bye, Mikey. -Bye! | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
I still can't believe you haven't contemplated | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
having Jack living here, further down the line. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
I would love to but I'm trying to be very grown up about it. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
But, maybe it's not right. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
It seems to me that for Jack to be able to live so close to his parents | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
in such a safe community could be perfect. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
'Of course I'd love to see Jack down the road, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
'but I think I must look at the bigger picture for Jack | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
'first of all.' | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
It would be very easy for Jack to move within our community, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
but I don't feel that that would be kind to Jack, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
in letting him really fulfil his ambitions. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
He's got a lot he wants to achieve, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
because he's got a lot he wants to try. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
There's career paths he wants to follow. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Yes, I got it in! | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Come on, girls. Are you scared? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
We've got to be incredibly brave by asserting ourselves | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
and finding somewhere that's possibly more independent. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
We've got to help him to cater for what he wants to do. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
'Like all mothers, Ronny's trying to strike a balance | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
'between allowing her son to follow his dreams, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
'while being realistic about what's possible.' | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
It's something that I struggle with, too. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
It's so difficult, you know, you don't want to impose, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
you can't impose what you feel would be right for you, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
on somebody who's not capable | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
of making those decisions for themselves. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
So you just have to go with a gut instinct | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
and find somewhere that, as much as possible, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
suits the personality of the person. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
< Train! | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
< Very good! | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
I've got to practice! | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
'I doubt that Domenica could ever have a career on the stage, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
'but dance remains her passion. Much more than waiting on tables.' | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
I'm going to be 16 soon. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
'Dominic and I have known for years about a dance and theatre school | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
'called Chicken Shed, in north London.' | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Shake away those nerves. Shake away those nerves. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Off you go! | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
A third of the students on courses here have some kind of disability. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
The rest are able-bodied. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
If Domenica got a place here, she'd be doing what she loves, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
as an equal alongside other people her age. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It's fantastic to see her so completely included. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
That's the key. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
That's what we need, one more. Would you be able to stand on one foot? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
And then Sarah, you hold her - I mean Jodie, you hold her hand. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
That's it. That's it. So that's five feet. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-Freeze! -> | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
'To get a place here, Domenica first has to get through an interview.' | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Remember all that we said. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
'Thankfully, what they look for is passion for the performing arts, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
'rather than just academic qualifications.' | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
I would just love to be a fly on the wall. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
It's the very first time she's had an interview on her own and she went through with such confidence. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
I mean, this is Domenica's first tentative step into adult life. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
'Half an hour later, and she's out, brimming with enthusiasm.' | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
-So do you think you would like it here, darling? -Yes. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
-What was good about it? -The dancing! | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-The dancing! Did you enjoy being on the stage? -Yes. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Why? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
Even if Domenica passes the interview, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
it's not down to us whether she can go to Chicken Shed. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
It is the local authority that decides what support she needs, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
who should provide it and what they will pay for. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
'I had no idea, and I'm sure parents don't, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
'that you are not in a position to make those decisions for your child. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
'You can fight - but ultimately, it is not my decision.' | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
The local authority has to agree | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
that this is the right place for her. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I have to prove to them that there is nowhere like this | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
in East Sussex that can give her the same curriculum. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
It's a nightmare. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
And as a parent, you feel completely disempowered, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
and that makes me feel totally inadequate as a mother. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:42 | |
Jess Hiles lives in Redditch. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
She has a genetic condition | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
which means she has both physical and learning disabilities. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Although she is 28, in many ways she will always be a child - | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
trusting, vulnerable, small in stature | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
and in need of constant care and protection from supportive adults. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
With an eye to the future, her parents, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
now approaching their 60s, have found a flat | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
where, for the last two years, she has lived on her own. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
Government policy is to encourage independent living | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
for adults like Jess. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
But does it actually work? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
If you could decide where you could live, what would you choose to do? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
Live here! | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
-You would choose to live here? -This flat! | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-So you really feel that this is your home? -Yes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Was it a very big step when you left home, to come here? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Yes. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
Can you remember what it was like? What did you feel like | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-when your parents left you here for the very first time? -Scared. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
Scared of what? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
For the first time, live on my own. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
And so what did you do? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Cried my eyes out. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Do you understand why your parents thought it was a good idea | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
for you to live here? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:29 | |
-Do you think they were looking ahead for when you're older? -Yes. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
-To build up your independence? -Yeah. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Have you ever had any accidents living here on your own? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
I had a toilet leak. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Well, that's annoying! And did you know what to do? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
No. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
-So what happened? -Phoned my dad. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
And how about the shopping for your food? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
My dad. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
And are you good with money, is that something you could do on your own? | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
No, carer... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
-Dad, dad again. -Yeah. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
I like to see him coming in the mornings, see how I am. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
Keep me going. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
'There are many people with learning disabilities like Jess in Britain - | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
'too capable to accept life in an institution, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
'but not capable enough to manage life alone without support. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
'But who is actually providing that support? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
'Her father, Barnaby, lives nearby. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
'He calls in every morning before work | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
'to get Jess ready for the day ahead.' | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Hey, Jess. How are you doing? Did you sleep all right? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Yes, you? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
Yeah, yeah. I overslept a bit this morning. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-So you slept OK? -Yes. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Fantastic. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
-Can I wash your hair? -Yes. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Like so many parents, it's clear that Barnaby | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
is prepared to do anything to support his daughter. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
I love your taps, Jess, they're so easy to use. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
-Is that cold? -No. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
-Shall we do just the one today or do you want two? -No. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Just the one. OK, that's splendid. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
Barnaby, do you come round every morning to do this? | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Yes. Yes, I do, yeah. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I don't wash her hair every morning, but pretty much every morning. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
I look for the shine and see if it needs it and it's fine today. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
-And that's something that Jess couldn't do on her own? -No. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
She can get her arms up here, but she can't keep them there. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
You're quite happy to have baths by yourself, aren't you, Jess, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
but it's things like hair washing, and certainly the nails, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
shaving under her arms, that kind of thing | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
that you can't do, can you, Jess? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
No. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
It looks great. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Thank you! I've had lots of practice. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Don't forget to turn the light off, Dad. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Well, you were last in, Jess! | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Jess also suffers from a foot deformity, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
which means she has to have special shoes and splints. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Eventually, she'll have to use a wheelchair. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Jess needs help with all the many little things | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
that most adults take for granted. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
That was well in. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
Here, some bread. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
'She has no problem making friends and socialising with people. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
'She doesn't seem to get lonely.' | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
But were she completely independent, were there no support whatsoever, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
the flat would become unliveable-in. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
She wouldn't clean it. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
She would probably fall back on a convenience diet | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
that would be really bad for her. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
Her personal hygiene would probably deteriorate. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
And it's that kind of bedrock of support | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
to keep her living safely that she could not live without. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
During the day, while Barnaby is at work, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
Jess goes to a Garden Centre for work experience. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
It's a charity set up to help people with learning disabilities. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
She comes here two days a week. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
When Jess comes to us, she is, if you like, not being looked after, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
but she's in a safe environment. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
And she's got people who understand Jess's needs, if you like. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
And I think if they had that more days per week, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
it would be a great help to her. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-I think we are mum and dad to a lot of people here. -I'm sure you are! | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
What we're going to do today is cut the pieces of green about this long, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
put them into a little pile, then we can wire them into the wreath. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Organising this placement has been difficult - | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
initially the council presumed Jess was being paid, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
so for a while, they stopped her income support | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
and she faced eviction from her flat. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Thank you, Jess. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
But Jess is not paid, and a place here is expensive. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
Jess has to pay the centre £50 a day. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
And Jess, do you feel a sense of achievement when you finish one? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
-Yeah. -I bet you do. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
That is great. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Jess' parents are amicably separated, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
and they share Jess' support. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Although her mother Jo lives an hour's drive away, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
she is constantly on hand to help with everyday things | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
like cleaning, shopping, and Jess' many medical appointments. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
It's time-consuming, and Jo has found it hard to keep a job | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
while also looking after Jess. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
But she felt she never had any choice. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
I do get asked a lot. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
It's the guilt, "Why aren't you living with your daughter? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
"Why isn't she living near you?" | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
'And it's when I say I'm not going to be there, I can't choose. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
'Jess wants to live independently, and why shouldn't she?' | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
This really isn't independent living | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
if both of you are involved to the extent that you are, is it? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
No. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
And it doesn't work? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
No. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
No, and certainly not without us at the moment. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
And what are her existing care provisions? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
She currently gets seven hours' support a week. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Five of those are provided for, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
funded by something called Supporting People. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
And two she buys herself, from her benefits. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Now, our big problem is that the rules and the parameters are | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
that those Supporting People hours | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
don't involve any kind of personal care at all. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
And within those five hours of non-personal care, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
if something needs doing, Jess is expected to ask for it to be done. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
And often, Jess just doesn't know how to. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I think Supporting People is probably fine for the people | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
for whom it's been invented, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
but then it's been applied to an extra tranche of people, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
for whom it's completely useless. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
That's why we are challenging authorities about it. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
She's not catered for with the right support and care - | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
it's never been there. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
Do you get on with your carers? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Some of them, and some not. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
-You've had problems with your eyes too, haven't you? -I had cataracts. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
-So that's why your father at the moment is putting in drops? -Yes. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Would your carers do that? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
-And you can't do that? -No. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
What would be the ideal solution for you with Jess? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
In an ideal world, what would be lovely is for sheltered accommodation | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
to be made available for people with learning disabilities | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
so they can have their own flat, but also the communal room, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
and someone on call, but also have their care if they should so want. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
-But there isn't anywhere. -Nowhere round here? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Nowhere round here. The funding isn't there. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
-Have you done one of Jo? -No. -Come on. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
That's brilliant, Jess! | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
When Jess moved into the flat two years ago, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Jo and Barnaby believed that they could get sufficient care | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
not to have to be on call around the clock. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
What else do you say at Christmas? | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
But it seems the right outside support and care | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
that independent living requires only comes | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
when there is a clear medical diagnosis, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
and Jess doesn't have one. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I love that. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
We'd been through lots of tests, we didn't know whether she had a syndrome or not, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
it was thought she might have Williams Syndrome. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
But she failed the last little test, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
and that would make life an awful lot easier, if she had a label. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
That's when the nightmare began. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
And not having a diagnosis makes it difficult | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
to access the support that you need, I presume. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Absolutely. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:32 | |
Because she hasn't got a label, she has never had a care package. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:38 | |
Which is just the thing we so desperately need for Jess. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Jess has had tests which show a 98% match for Williams syndrome, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
but apparently this cannot be conclusively diagnosed. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
It's a rare genetic disorder, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
with symptoms that closely match Jess's - physical abnormalities, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
heart problems, learning disabilities | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
and an overly trusting nature. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Barnaby and Jo are deeply frustrated by their inability | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
to get a consistent, confirmed diagnosis | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
and the care that would go with it. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
We have yet another assessment | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
and then the goal posts move, and we have yet another assessment. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
We also had a recent telephone call which I'm so glad Barnaby answered, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
saying about yet another medical assessment, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
and Barnaby said, "Will this just be the one-off?" | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
They said, "No, we'll have to do it quite often | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
"to see if Jess ever gets better." | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
But she isn't going to get better. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
As both she and her parents grow older, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
she's probably going to get worse. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
It's that constant, 24-hour worry... | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
what if I drop dead tomorrow, Barnaby isn't around, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
what's going to happen to Jess? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
And there have been times where... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
There's been a couple of times recently and in the past | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
where I've wanted to crawl into that corner, go to sleep and not wake up. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
I'm tired. I just don't want to carry on much longer, but I will. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
She's Jess, and I've got to be there for her, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
but I'm not going to be there forever. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
How are we going to start, Jess? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Yup, yup. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
Go on then, you look! | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
OK, check. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
That looks good, that looks good. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
You've told me what the good things are about living here on your own. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
What are the bad things? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Nothing. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
None at all. You're never, ever lonely? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Got my teddies! | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
How long have you had Cuddles? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Six... Six and a half years. I think. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
Yes. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
Could you manage to live here without your parents? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Hard. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
That would feel...hard. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
'Jess is not living independently.' | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Chronologically, she may be 28, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
but mentally, she's still clearly a child. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
And I do not understand the lack of a care package. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
And it just doesn't seem at all right or fair, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
and both parents seem to be under an enormous amount of stress. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
And it's very easy to understand why. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Yes, we are all the same, yes, we are all equal, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
but some of us are more vulnerable than others, and need more care | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
and more looking after, and someone like Jess - absolutely, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
and my daughter - fits into that category. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
And we're not, as a society, doing what we should. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
And if you judge a society | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
by the way it looks after its most vulnerable, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
then we're really, truly lacking. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
It's Domenica's big day. She's turning 16. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
THEY SING "Happy Birthday" | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
She doesn't realise how her life is going to change | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
in the years to come, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
but she's beginning to take her very first steps towards adulthood. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
There's no easy way for any of these young people | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
to lead independent lives. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Make a big wish now. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
Ultimately letting go means taking risks | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and putting your trust in others to keep your child safe, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
and that's what makes it all the more difficult. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
Can I say, erm, thanks for coming. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
-Aw! -> | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
Well, that's it. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
'The fact that she's 16 makes me look ahead.' | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
I have to confront my own mortality | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
and the fact that I'm not going to be there to look after her, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
'and really, she's always going to be a child | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
'and always have the requirements of a child, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
'and as a mother, you want to be there for your child,' | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
and I'm not going to be. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Thank you, Mummy. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
OK! | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
-Is there anything you want to ask me at all? -No. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
-All right. Take it out and put it in your hand. -Mum! | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-Do you want to tell me what you're going to do? -Mum! | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
-The bus will be here in a minute. -Yes, I know! | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Don't forget to ring me! | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
Ah... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Three months on, and Jack's making his first trip on a bus on his own. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
While his mother Dawn decides what to do next, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
Richard is still at home. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Jess's parents are still fighting | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
to get official acceptance of her condition, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
which they believe will unlock the sort of care | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
that will secure her future. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
And Domenica's just got an important letter. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-Oh, it's Chicken Shed! -Wow! | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
What it says... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
Do you know what that means? "We are delighted." | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Why are they delighted? To offer you a place. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
-So does that mean I'm in? -That means you're in. -Yay! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-That means you're in! -Mummy! I'm gonna be at Chicken Shed! | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
-That is amazing, darling! -Oh, Mummy! | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
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