Obesity: The Post Mortem


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Obesity is an epidemic happening right here in the UK, right now.

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Honestly, the first thing I'll say is I'm a big girl.

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How my friends would describe me would be large - fat, probably.

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I don't like to use the word fat but, at the end of the day,

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that is what I have inside me - I have a large amount of extra fat.

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We all know what fat looks like on the outside.

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I think of cellulite, rolls...

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..big thighs, big arms.

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If you're Kim Kardashian you can have a really fat arse.

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I... I've got a fat stomach.

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She's got a fat arse.

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But what if we could see what fat looks like from the inside?

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Do we have any idea of the damage obesity is doing under our skin?

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When you say to somebody, "Oh, well, it's affecting your health,

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you know, show me. I can't see inside.

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I can't see what's happening inside me.

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BBC Three has secured the first televised access

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to a full postmortem

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on an obese person whose body was donated to medical science.

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This summer, our pathology team assemble to reveal, from the inside,

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the dangers of us all getting too fat.

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Postmortems are tightly controlled,

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and access to them is strictly limited

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to protect the privacy and dignity of the deceased.

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Filming is not usually allowed.

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But for this postmortem, we have been allowed in,

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to help understand a problem that costs the nation billions

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and ruins so many lives - obesity.

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Carla Valentine and Dr Mike Osborn

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are the specialist team responsible for

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carrying out the postmortem.

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Carla is an anatomical pathology technologist,

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and technical curator of the pathology museum

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at London's Queen Mary University.

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For this postmortem, I'll be carrying out the evisceration,

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which means removing all of the organs.

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Being part of a filmed postmortem is a very unique opportunity.

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Death terrifies some people,

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but what it also does is it eventually gives you

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a real sense of the fragility of life.

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The topic of obesity is a huge problem,

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and it's something that I get to see quite a lot,

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but it's not something that I get to study in depth.

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Mike is a consultant pathologist,

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and fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists.

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He's been working with death and disease for over 20 years.

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Obesity is very much there, it's seen, but I think it's very,

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very poorly understood.

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It seemed that making this film would be a way of exploring that,

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and allowing a broader public to learn about

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the problems that are associated with obesity.

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Carla and Mike have performed thousands of postmortems,

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but always behind closed doors.

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Today, we'll witness what really happens in an autopsy,

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and discover what the body of our donor can tell us about

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the creeping effects of obesity over time.

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We don't know this woman's name, but we do know a few details about her.

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She was in her early '60s...

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..five foot five...

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..almost 17st...

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..and, just like a quarter of people in the UK,

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clinically obese.

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But where did she come from, and how did she end up here,

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on a postmortem table in London?

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Long Beach, on the west coast of the United States.

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Glamorous, sunny, carefree California.

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But, away from the beach,

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on an anonymous industrial estate on the outskirts of the city,

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is where our donor began her journey to the postmortem table.

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This is a place where people who donate their body

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to essential medical science are brought when they die.

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Up to 20 donated bodies -

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or cadavers - a day come through these doors,

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destined for thousands of medical research projects

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all over the world.

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My name is Randall Delgato. I'm 29.

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My main role, now, would be in charge of distribution.

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Some days, you know, we have an order for cadavers

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heading into Lebanon, and so then, you know,

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we have to start checking on them. How are they looking? Are they firm?

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Is there mould growing on them?

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You've got to be a certain breed of person to be able to do this,

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you know? I mean, at first, it was very like, "Oh..."

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But, you know, eventually you get used to it.

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I'm Kelsey, I'm 32, and I live in Costa Mesa, California.

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We perform a procurement on each donor that comes in,

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which entails us dissecting different specimens from each donor.

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We get to dissect the brain, take certain parts of the brain,

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and the internal organs, or taking

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veins and arteries, different parts of the eye.

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The job itself can still be pretty taboo.

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I mean, even when I first came here, I wasn't exactly sure what they did.

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I knew they recovered tissue,

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but I didn't know to, like, the extreme of,

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like, really recovering almost everything.

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Our donor was processed here, in preparation for her final trip.

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Her left arm was removed for cremation,

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and its ashes returned to her family in California.

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The rest of her body was frozen, placed in a body bag, boxed,

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and labelled for transportation to London.

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From here, she made her last car journey

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through the streets of California.

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She was loaded into the hold

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of a plane and carried 5,000 miles from her home.

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And, finally, she arrived in London.

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Her body remained in a cool chamber for ten days,

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to allow it to thaw completely,

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before it was brought to the postmortem table.

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The first stage of every postmortem,

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before any cut is made to the flesh,

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is an external examination of the body.

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The donor's ID number is confirmed against her medical record,

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which details the cause of her death - heart disease -

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and that she'd only had minor surgery and drank minimal alcohol.

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But what will her body go on to reveal about the way that she died?

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This lady died of heart disease,

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which is one of the things that is associated with obesity.

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And, interestingly, already in this lady

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we've got signs of heart failure, because if I press here,

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-particularly, on this side, you can see...

-Oh, that's very evident.

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The dimpling, there. And that's because you've got too much fluid,

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and that's the side-effect of heart failure.

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The other obvious external damage to our donor are the blisters

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on her skin.

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They are one of the earliest signs of her body decomposing

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after death,

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and they're particularly noticeable on larger bodies.

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But they're not what Mike and Carla are focusing on.

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The most important thing about this lady is that the obesity that she's

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got is centred on her abdomen.

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So this lady's carrying a lot of weight around her tummy.

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That's associated with more of the complications

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than if somebody weighs the same but they carry their weight

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around the bottom and around the thighs.

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So that's less associated with complications.

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That's more associated with complications.

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So we can see the distribution of the fat from the external exam.

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But once we actually get inside, we'll see more of

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how that's affected the inside of her body and her

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internal organs, as well.

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When we open this lady, there may be other findings

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that are less easy to diagnose before somebody has died,

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that won't have killed her but are examples of problems that can

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get worse and lead to illness and death in other people.

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So we may find some of those, we may not.

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To uncover if there are deadly medical truths

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lying beneath the skin, Carla must first cut open the body.

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The incision is a large and deep single vertical cut,

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beginning at the suprasternal notch

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at the base of the neck, and ending at the top of the pubis.

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It's a skill that requires both great precision and intense

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concentration, especially performed on someone with so much fat.

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So what I can feel at the moment is an awful lot of yellow,

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very sort of greasy, fatty tissue,

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which...is quite a thick layer in a body this size.

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Reflecting the skin, back from the ribcage, here,

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and what that means is I'm just kind of loosening it

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away with the muscle,

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to give me a bit of room to manoeuvre within the body.

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What we seem to have here is a breast implant.

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This is an incidental find.

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Sometimes, when we do postmortems,

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it's not just about what we're expecting to find, it's incidental.

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There is a very large amount of fat here,

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and the reason it makes it so difficult is it actually is greasy -

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it feels very much like butter.

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So what I'm doing here is just trying to make sure that my...

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..knife doesn't slip too much on it.

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Mike, did you want to come and take a look at this?

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OK. So, we can see, immediately, the thickness of fat that is here.

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And even though there is a large amount on the anterior chest wall -

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the front of the chest -

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there's also a very large amount around the abdomen.

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The abdominal fat - that is the most dangerous,

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associated with the problems of obesity.

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There's quite a lot of fat around the organs.

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There's fat in the omentum.

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It would appear that this lady's carrying much of her weight in the

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abdominal fat and possibly around organs, as well.

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So there's lots of changes, which I think we'll get a better view of

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when we've opened the rest of the body.

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Everybody knows what obesity looks like from the outside but,

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unless you do a job like ours,

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most people don't see what obesity looks like inside.

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I've done thousands of postmortems.

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It's always a fascinating procedure.

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Even if it's a case where you've seen lots and lots of

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similar cases in the past,

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that particular case will be individual,

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and you'll certainly learn from that.

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We'll never know exactly why our donor became so overweight.

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The reasons for obesity are multilayered and complicated -

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a mixture of lifestyle and environment, biology and psychology.

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But now that overweight is the new normal weight in the UK,

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there is a whole new young generation

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living with the consequences of obesity.

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Fat! You know? "Oi, fatty", "fat bastard",

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you know, whatever it might be. I mean, I remember walking past

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my local pub once and someone said,

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"Oh, fat bastard, how are you?"

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It doesn't matter how old you are,

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if you're fat, you are marginalised by society.

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There's a lot of medical contributing facts

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to people's weight that a lot of people don't realise,

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and all they see is somebody that's big,

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and they assume that they eat a lot.

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Myself, you know,

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I suffer from polycystic ovaries and also underactive thyroids.

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So, as a child, I was always slim.

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I come from a family that's quite slim, their build is quite slim.

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You know, it was only when I hit puberty that I started

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putting on this weight.

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I was diagnosed with epilepsy,

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and the first medication they put me on,

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I put on a lot of weight quite quickly.

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I lost a lot of self-confidence,

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which I think also led to me putting on more weight.

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The emotions and feelings that I associate with eating

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are quite difficult, because I...

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There's a part of me, because I'm recovered

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from binge-eating disorder,

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there's a part of me that still, if I've had a difficult day,

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wants to go home and eat a lot of things in one go, which,

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you know... I wouldn't enjoy them,

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it would just be because that's what I have done in the past,

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and that just seems to be something that I've picked up as a way

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of coping, which I've now moved away from.

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But that's still something that I'm conscious of,

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and still occasionally want to go and do that.

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Sometimes, you know, I'm not going to lie,

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I do eat some of the wrong foods.

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And, you know, I don't go to the gym as often as I should.

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During my 20s, you know, I did, I partied a bit.

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I was going out with my friends on the weekend.

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You know, binge drinking

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all weekend's not a good, healthy lifestyle but,

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at the time, I didn't care.

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Food is pretty much central to our existence.

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Mum would always complain that we're always thinking about our stomachs.

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I suffer from a sort of severe lack of self-discipline.

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So, when I go to the supermarket,

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I'll generally walk through the door and the first thing I'll see is the

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things on offer - biscuits, two for one.

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And then I'll see the salad.

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And it's salad.

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And you've got carrots and you've got hummus,

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and you've got Maltesers and you've got Twirl and you've got Buttons,

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and Dairy Milk this and Twix that, and it's cheaper and it's on deal -

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why wouldn't I? It spirals, and it gets out of control.

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It's just quite sneaky, really,

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the way that it kind of creeps up on you if you sort of

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take your eye off the ball.

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The next stage of our postmortem is for Carla

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to go deeper into the body -

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beyond the surface fat - to get to the organs.

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What will we discover from them about the damage that fat has done?

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The organs come out in blocks,

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because they all fit together in a certain way.

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So, for example, with the cardio-respiratory block,

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which is the heart and the lungs,

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these are specifically together and above the diaphragm,

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so you have a natural line there that sort of

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makes them into one block or "plug".

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So if I remove those and I give those to the pathologist,

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he can then take a look at those organs

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while I carry on with the next block.

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To get to each block, Carla must first remove the sternum -

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the bony armour that protects the major organs of the body.

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It's not an easy job,

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requiring skill perfected over years and a bit of brute force.

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So I'm going to take my rib shears -

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we use these specifically for this job as they can cut through bone.

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And what I'm going to do is just make some very even cuts,

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right through all of these bones.

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You can hear the bones are snapping.

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This lady isn't exactly young.

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The older people get, the more calcified their bones become,

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so they become very, very crunchy,

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whereas younger people tend to have much more soft bones.

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In order to do this job you have to be strong of stomach, to start with.

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But I think that's just something that you either know or you don't.

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I never would have considered doing this job if I didn't know I had

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a strong stomach. I'm now removing the breastbone,

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or the breast plate, the sternum, with upward strokes.

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And this way, I don't damage any of the pericardium,

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which is the sack that keeps the heart safe.

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The first time I saw somebody doing a postmortem,

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I think I was just absolutely rapt, I was fascinated.

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And it's because the human body is an incredibly complex machine.

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To open a human being, to see all of that absolutely perfect sort of

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jigsaw of organs and perfectly placed,

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it really did make me feel very awed.

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When you do an autopsy on somebody who's very slim,

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the organs are there and they're very evident.

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It's like a game of Operation,

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or like one of those anatomical models that you would use at school.

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In a woman this size,

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a lot of it is really hidden by this extra yellow fat.

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It is making it quite difficult to see the structures -

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much more difficult than it would if she was a thinner person.

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Before Carla removes the heart and lungs,

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Mike wants to take a look at the organs while they're still

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in the body, to see if we'll discover

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any early indications of trauma or damage.

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You can see the heart here.

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There's a large amount of fat around the heart.

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-There's more here than you would see normally.

-Definitely.

-Quite considerably more.

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Underneath the heart and lungs, in this area, here,

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is what you call the diaphragm -

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that's a big muscle that helps you breathe.

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Even the diaphragm - I was going to ask - seems very fatty to me.

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That's right. Even on the surface,

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where the heart fat and the diaphragm are meeting,

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there's more fat than usual.

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And, actually, the thing you can see most is an extremely enlarged liver.

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This is very, very large,

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and it's got what we call "fatty liver change".

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So this is a fatty liver,

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and fatty liver is very much associated with obesity.

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You can see there's a lot of fat around these organs,

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so what would be between my hands now would be the kidneys.

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Now, the kidneys always have fat around them.

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I think it's important, while we're talking about the fat,

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to realise fat is a normal thing.

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Everybody has fat in.

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However thin you are, there will be some fat, and fat has got very,

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very important roles, and one of those roles is to protect things.

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It's the too much fat that is the problem.

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Fat is made up of cells called adipocytes, which are fat cells.

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And, really, for a long, long time - until very recently -

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people thought that fat was just an inert substance that just sort of

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sat there and didn't really do anything.

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But it's becoming increasingly understood now,

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that fat is actually a very active substance.

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Fat cells work almost like an endocrine organ.

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People will have heard of some endocrine organs -

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things like the thyroid gland is related to how much energy you have,

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how cold you are, so forth.

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The ovaries, the testes - so, obviously,

0:20:290:20:32

these hormones related to the ovary and the testes define whether you're

0:20:320:20:35

going to be a man or you're going to be a woman.

0:20:350:20:37

So those are the sorts of activities hormones have, so they're very, very powerful things.

0:20:370:20:41

And then it's become obvious that the adipocytes, the fat cells,

0:20:410:20:45

do play an endocrine-type role

0:20:450:20:47

and so have some very powerful effects that

0:20:470:20:49

were previously unknown.

0:20:490:20:51

Exactly how fat works and what it does is still far

0:20:540:20:57

from completely understood,

0:20:570:21:00

but the day-to-day reality of obesity can be devastating.

0:21:000:21:04

I wish I hadn't left it so late to try and start losing weight.

0:21:050:21:09

It's not good on your back. It's not good on your knees.

0:21:090:21:11

You know, God knows what it's doing inside.

0:21:120:21:16

I thought, "Right, OK, I'm 30 -

0:21:160:21:18

"let's start thinking about trying to have a baby."

0:21:180:21:20

But with the size that I am,

0:21:200:21:22

you know, you won't even get any help with,

0:21:220:21:24

sort of, IVF and things like that because it's...

0:21:240:21:28

You know, the answer is, "You're too big."

0:21:280:21:30

I've always felt insecure,

0:21:360:21:37

thinking that I would perhaps never ever find love because I'm fat.

0:21:370:21:41

Even if it's practical things such as travelling,

0:21:430:21:48

going to a funfair or going to a theme park

0:21:480:21:51

and knowing I have to sit in a seat that is tiny -

0:21:510:21:54

things like that, and...

0:21:540:21:57

There's so many things. My wedding day - preparing for that,

0:21:570:22:00

preparing my body for that, so how it will look in photos.

0:22:000:22:03

And even social media.

0:22:030:22:05

In fact, my whole life is surrounded by it.

0:22:050:22:09

I've got sleep apnoea because of my weight.

0:22:090:22:11

And what that means is that

0:22:110:22:13

when I lie down to go to sleep at night,

0:22:130:22:17

the extra weight on my neck and on my face

0:22:170:22:20

actually compresses my airways,

0:22:200:22:22

so that it stops me breathing properly and therefore wakes me up.

0:22:220:22:26

It was waking me up about every two minutes throughout the night.

0:22:260:22:30

So I wear a machine, and it's essentially a small air pump.

0:22:300:22:35

It just keeps pressured air going into my airways

0:22:350:22:38

through the night, so I don't wake myself up,

0:22:380:22:41

so that my sleep's a lot better. Very glad to have the machine.

0:22:410:22:45

Would have been much gladder to have not needed it at all.

0:22:450:22:48

When I first properly started thinking of myself

0:22:590:23:02

as overweight was when I started looking at wedding dresses.

0:23:020:23:06

It's meant to be, like, a really, really happy time,

0:23:060:23:09

and I just felt uncomfortable,

0:23:090:23:12

and just ugly and disgusting,

0:23:120:23:16

and I just - I didn't want to be there.

0:23:160:23:19

The woman said that they were going to have to order me a size 20,

0:23:190:23:22

and I thought it was going to be, like, a size 16,

0:23:220:23:25

and I was just, like, absolutely out of my mind.

0:23:250:23:30

I had, like, no idea I'd got that big.

0:23:300:23:33

It was really, really awful. I think I cried most of that night.

0:23:330:23:37

I was angry at myself to have got so big and not have noticed.

0:23:370:23:41

Like, I just felt stupid.

0:23:410:23:43

The next stage of the postmortem is the dissection

0:23:460:23:49

of the heart and lungs. For Mike to be able to do this,

0:23:490:23:53

Carla needs to remove the cardio-respiratory block

0:23:530:23:55

from the body.

0:23:550:23:56

I'm cutting through the diaphragm, here,

0:24:020:24:05

just to make sure that I've freed the lungs completely.

0:24:050:24:07

Free them along the spine here.

0:24:100:24:12

I'm going to do the exact same thing on the other side.

0:24:130:24:16

And then chop across the oesophagus and the trachea here,

0:24:220:24:25

and then all I need to do is, basically,

0:24:250:24:27

pull the organs towards me,

0:24:270:24:29

at the same time as releasing these, sort of,

0:24:290:24:31

white fibrous tissues that are holding the organs to the spine.

0:24:310:24:35

And then we'll get to a point...

0:24:350:24:37

..where this block - the cardio-respiratory block -

0:24:390:24:41

is completely free.

0:24:410:24:43

And then we can take this out as one block.

0:24:440:24:46

And we've got the heart and the lungs and the heart sack -

0:24:480:24:52

the pericardium.

0:24:520:24:54

When you initially carry out a postmortem

0:24:550:24:57

and you hold an organ such as the heart in your hands...

0:24:570:25:01

And the heart is very symbolic...

0:25:010:25:03

..you know? We use it in all sorts of logos.

0:25:040:25:07

It has a sort of power and a sort of agency

0:25:070:25:11

that makes you kind of stop and think.

0:25:110:25:13

Because it looks so mundane, but then you realise that within it

0:25:130:25:17

has the electrical impulses to keep a person alive.

0:25:170:25:19

With the cardio-respiratory block removed from a donor's body,

0:25:220:25:25

Mike can start his dissection of her lungs.

0:25:250:25:29

Will we uncover any evidence of damage linked to her obesity?

0:25:290:25:32

I'm going to detach the lungs from the heart.

0:25:380:25:42

So we'll start off with the right lung.

0:25:420:25:45

So, just cutting through...

0:25:460:25:47

..where the lung is attached.

0:25:490:25:50

And that's the right lung detached.

0:25:510:25:53

This is the left lung I'm detaching.

0:25:530:25:56

There.

0:25:580:25:59

I'm just going to make some cuts across the lung,

0:25:590:26:02

just to see what the surface of the lung looks like.

0:26:020:26:05

These lungs actually look quite healthy.

0:26:050:26:08

There's no tumours or masses or anything like that in these lungs.

0:26:080:26:12

But what there does seem to be,

0:26:140:26:16

and which should be evident now if I pick this lung up and squeeze it...

0:26:160:26:21

..is you can see the fluid dripping out of these lungs.

0:26:220:26:26

And this is what we call pulmonary oedema -

0:26:260:26:29

that's essentially heart failure fluid.

0:26:290:26:32

This fluid is basically water.

0:26:320:26:34

I know it looks red - that's because, obviously,

0:26:340:26:37

it's within the body and it's been mixed with blood.

0:26:370:26:40

This isn't... Blood is much, much thicker than that.

0:26:400:26:42

This is really just a watery fluid.

0:26:420:26:45

And this has collected because this lady's got heart failure.

0:26:450:26:48

This lady died from heart failure, from hypertensive heart disease.

0:26:490:26:53

But this lady is also obese.

0:26:530:26:56

She did not die from the obesity -

0:26:560:26:58

the obesity increased the risk factors,

0:26:580:27:02

and was associated with the problems that led to her death.

0:27:020:27:07

Fluid has built up in this lady's lungs.

0:27:080:27:11

Because her heart isn't working properly,

0:27:110:27:13

she'd have probably been short of breath and possibly had a cough.

0:27:130:27:17

But, also, because the fluid sits in the chest when you lie flat,

0:27:170:27:22

and that would have given her sensation, almost, of drowning.

0:27:220:27:26

When you become a doctor, one of the questions that they teach you

0:27:270:27:30

very early on is how many pillows do you sleep with?

0:27:300:27:34

And that tends not to be because they're asking

0:27:340:27:36

how comfortable you are at night -

0:27:360:27:38

it's because if somebody says, "Oh, I can't sleep in a bed, doctor.

0:27:380:27:41

"I have to sleep in a chair" or,

0:27:410:27:43

"I have to sleep with eight pillows, sitting up",

0:27:430:27:45

that is very indicative of heart failure.

0:27:450:27:48

From the startling discovery Mike has made in our donor's lungs,

0:27:510:27:54

we now know that she would have felt the impact of her obesity

0:27:540:27:58

and heart failure every single day.

0:27:580:28:00

Heart failure is not the same as a heart attack.

0:28:010:28:05

When a heart fails, it doesn't fail immediately

0:28:050:28:09

in this type of circumstance.

0:28:090:28:10

It fails over a long period of time, so the symptoms are gradual.

0:28:100:28:14

So this lady may have been able to walk up ten flights of stairs

0:28:140:28:19

three years ago, then she suddenly found she got very breathless

0:28:190:28:22

after five flights of stairs, then she found that she found it very,

0:28:220:28:26

very difficult to even walk up one flight of stairs,

0:28:260:28:28

or even carry her shopping. It would have been a progressive disease,

0:28:280:28:31

as the heart became worse and worse and worse.

0:28:310:28:34

Now, the final event, obviously,

0:28:340:28:36

when this lady's heart stopped working -

0:28:360:28:38

that would have been an instantaneous event and led to her death.

0:28:380:28:42

Now it's time for Mike to examine, in detail,

0:28:420:28:45

the organ that catastrophically failed in our donor.

0:28:450:28:48

What will we find out about how and why she might have died?

0:28:490:28:53

You can't really see the heart yet,

0:28:530:28:55

because the heart is sitting in a bag.

0:28:550:28:58

This is called the pericardial sac.

0:28:580:29:00

I'm just going to open that.

0:29:000:29:01

And so I can reflect that back and that's the heart there.

0:29:040:29:08

So the heart, now, is in my hand.

0:29:080:29:11

And you can see all the fat I was talking about earlier really isn't

0:29:110:29:15

around the heart, it's really around the pericardium.

0:29:150:29:18

There is a bit of fat around the heart, which is here.

0:29:180:29:21

This is absolutely typical and everybody's heart,

0:29:210:29:23

even a thin person's heart, would have this.

0:29:230:29:26

And I'm going to cut off the pericardial sac.

0:29:260:29:30

This big blood vessel here is the aorta.

0:29:320:29:35

This is the vessel that takes all the blood

0:29:350:29:38

from the heart round the body.

0:29:380:29:40

When I feel this heart, it feels baggy.

0:29:400:29:43

A heart, in someone who is very athletic -

0:29:430:29:46

their heart would be very tight, very firm.

0:29:460:29:49

It would be like, almost, picking up a piece of steak.

0:29:490:29:51

This is more like a bag.

0:29:510:29:53

What I'm going to do now is weigh this heart.

0:29:530:29:56

So this heart is 449g.

0:29:590:30:02

That's a heavy heart. This lady is, despite her weight,

0:30:020:30:06

this lady is actually quite a petite person.

0:30:060:30:09

So you would expect her heart to be perhaps 275g, something like that.

0:30:090:30:14

So this is very much heavier than you would expect.

0:30:140:30:17

And that is the sort of size heart

0:30:170:30:19

you would expect in someone who has got heart failure

0:30:190:30:22

due to high blood pressure,

0:30:220:30:24

which is what this lady suffered from.

0:30:240:30:26

The heart, basically, has to pump to keep up the pressure.

0:30:260:30:29

The heart gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

0:30:290:30:31

But there comes a point where the heart can't get any bigger,

0:30:310:30:35

and it basically exhausts itself.

0:30:350:30:36

Now that he's discovered the shocking state of our donor's heart,

0:30:390:30:43

Mike wants to look at it from the inside.

0:30:430:30:45

He cuts some slices so he can examine the ventricles -

0:30:450:30:49

the walls of the heart that pump the blood.

0:30:490:30:51

If you're a 6'8", All Black second row,

0:30:520:30:55

or you're, you know,

0:30:550:30:57

one of the professional footballers running around the pitch,

0:30:570:31:00

you need a lot of blood.

0:31:000:31:01

So the wall of the left ventricle, in a young, fit person,

0:31:010:31:05

is usually an inch-thick muscle all the way around.

0:31:050:31:09

Now, if you look at this lady, this lady's left ventricle is very,

0:31:090:31:13

very thin. This is eight millimetres, something like that.

0:31:130:31:18

That's because she developed high blood pressure to start off with -

0:31:180:31:22

the heart had to pump harder and harder.

0:31:220:31:24

In the end, what you get to is a state where the muscle can't keep

0:31:240:31:27

the high blood pressure up,

0:31:270:31:29

and it starts to get thinner and thinner and thinner.

0:31:290:31:31

And, basically, you go from a thick, muscular pump,

0:31:310:31:34

through to a paper bag that's not capable of pumping blood adequately

0:31:340:31:38

around the body. And we see a lot of these hearts.

0:31:380:31:41

We see them on a background of hypertension.

0:31:410:31:44

This is a common finding and becoming more common.

0:31:440:31:46

Hypertension is high blood pressure.

0:31:480:31:50

Obesity is well known to be one of the major risk factors

0:31:500:31:53

for high blood pressure.

0:31:530:31:55

So, in this lady, they were not able to control that.

0:31:550:31:58

That led to changes within the heart which meant the heart failed,

0:31:580:32:01

it couldn't work properly. And that's what this lady died from.

0:32:010:32:05

Obesity is a killer - not by itself,

0:32:100:32:13

but in the many ways that it triggers and accelerates disease.

0:32:130:32:18

But so much of the way that we think about fat isn't medical at all -

0:32:180:32:22

it's personal.

0:32:220:32:23

I have been fat all my life.

0:32:250:32:28

And it's never been a positive thing for me.

0:32:280:32:32

I've always associated it with something negative, to be honest.

0:32:320:32:36

I feel like

0:32:360:32:38

fat is a filter through which I'm seen,

0:32:380:32:41

because there are certain stereotypes that go alongside

0:32:410:32:45

being fat, being overweight,

0:32:450:32:48

that maybe people who are overweight

0:32:480:32:50

are lazy or not very clever.

0:32:500:32:53

I don't know why. I don't know where those have come from.

0:32:530:32:56

But I feel like I have to try extra hard to prove those things wrong.

0:32:560:33:02

I don't think I necessarily would associate my fat with, you know,

0:33:080:33:11

being invited to, you know, get-togethers with friends

0:33:110:33:14

or going out. But, you know, if they were going to play a game

0:33:140:33:16

of football or rugby, they might think twice.

0:33:160:33:18

Socially, in terms of relationships, it definitely has.

0:33:180:33:21

I mean, you go into a bar and you look like a GQ cover model,

0:33:210:33:25

versus me, the girl's always going to go for the GQ cover model, sadly.

0:33:250:33:29

Try as I might to be the funny fat guy.

0:33:290:33:31

You try to build this wall, this wall that, you know,

0:33:380:33:42

you just sort of try to ignore it. And from strangers you can,

0:33:420:33:45

because you think, "Well, they don't know me."

0:33:450:33:47

But when somebody who's supposed to love you and somebody who's supposed

0:33:470:33:50

to care for you and somebody who's supposed to accept you

0:33:500:33:53

for who you are, when they call you fat, just to hurt you,

0:33:530:33:57

the feeling is just horrible. It's not a nice feeling at all.

0:33:570:34:01

It makes you feel really low, sad, alone.

0:34:010:34:05

The next block of organs to be removed

0:34:110:34:13

are the organs of the digestive system,

0:34:130:34:16

called the coeliac block.

0:34:160:34:18

What I'm trying to do here is make sure that I've got the stomach

0:34:220:34:26

and the lower bowel and the liver and the spleen

0:34:260:34:28

all together in one block,

0:34:280:34:29

for Mike to take a look at, and not damage the kidneys.

0:34:290:34:32

But, at this point, I don't think I'm going to be able to damage them

0:34:320:34:35

anyway, because they are so surrounded by

0:34:350:34:37

such a large envelope of fat.

0:34:370:34:39

So we've got some faecal matter,

0:34:400:34:42

we've got some bile and then, obviously, a lot of blood.

0:34:420:34:45

The blood's mixed in with the fat, which is yellow,

0:34:450:34:47

so that's giving us some orangey fluids.

0:34:470:34:50

It's a multisensory rainbow at the moment.

0:34:500:34:52

Every single thing that is in each of these blocks

0:34:520:34:55

is incredibly important and, you know,

0:34:550:34:57

does amazing jobs for our body.

0:34:570:35:00

It's just a case of...it's not very pleasant, once they've stopped

0:35:000:35:03

working and they've started to decompose a little bit.

0:35:030:35:07

To completely free the organs, Carla needs to cut through

0:35:070:35:09

the fibrous membrane that holds them to the spine

0:35:090:35:12

at the back of the body.

0:35:120:35:14

So this is a huge coeliac block.

0:35:140:35:17

It is incredibly heavy.

0:35:170:35:18

The liver, as you can see, is taking up most of it.

0:35:180:35:21

You can just see the spleen, there, and also the stomach,

0:35:210:35:24

and a bit of the small bowel is attached, as well.

0:35:240:35:26

When I first encountered a deceased person,

0:35:280:35:30

I think what really struck me was just the stillness and the cold.

0:35:300:35:35

Because, of course, I'd never, at that point,

0:35:350:35:38

felt flesh that was so cold.

0:35:380:35:40

And it gave me a real sensation of kind of

0:35:410:35:44

dipping my toe into very cold water.

0:35:440:35:47

And then, once I'd done it, that feeling had never quite left.

0:35:470:35:52

It was like this other, subterranean world.

0:35:520:35:54

In the next stage of the postmortem,

0:35:560:35:58

will we find any evidence of fat damage in the organs of our donor's

0:35:580:36:02

digestive system?

0:36:020:36:04

This is the organs that include

0:36:090:36:12

the liver,

0:36:120:36:14

the spleen, the stomach and the pancreas.

0:36:140:36:17

Now, this is much heavier than I would expect it to be in a smaller

0:36:170:36:23

individual, largely because the liver is so big.

0:36:230:36:27

First, Mike is going to take a look at the organ that most people

0:36:270:36:29

associate with obesity.

0:36:290:36:32

This is the stomach.

0:36:320:36:33

Basically just like a bag that holds the food,

0:36:340:36:37

before the food goes through into the bowel

0:36:370:36:40

where it's actually digested.

0:36:400:36:42

And there are actually many...

0:36:420:36:43

of the treatments associated with obesity deal with the stomach.

0:36:430:36:47

And what they try to do is reduce the size of the stomach,

0:36:470:36:50

so that people have a feeling of being satisfied from eating

0:36:500:36:54

without eating so much. So there's a whole variety -

0:36:540:36:57

gastric bands fit around the stomach,

0:36:570:36:59

there's various bypass operations and so forth.

0:36:590:37:02

The stomach is very good at dilating.

0:37:020:37:05

So, if this lady had had a very large meal before she died

0:37:050:37:08

and had not had opportunity to digest it,

0:37:080:37:11

the stomach would be much more obvious.

0:37:110:37:13

But this is a fairly typical size stomach.

0:37:130:37:16

Next, Mike will dissect the liver - the organ he discovered showing

0:37:190:37:22

such dramatic change when he saw it in the open body.

0:37:220:37:26

But what will it reveal to us about the consequences of fat

0:37:260:37:30

building up where it shouldn't?

0:37:300:37:31

First thing I saw when we opened the abdomen was the size of this liver

0:37:330:37:37

and the fact that this liver showed marked fatty change.

0:37:370:37:40

I'm going to make some slices through the liver,

0:37:400:37:42

just so I can see what the surface, cut surface of the liver looks like.

0:37:420:37:46

The sponge, so I don't cut myself.

0:37:460:37:48

So I've made some cuts across the liver, there.

0:37:560:37:59

And you can see that the surface of the liver

0:37:590:38:01

is this sort of pinky colour.

0:38:010:38:03

That's very characteristic of fatty liver change.

0:38:030:38:06

It's very soft. It almost feels like pate in consistency.

0:38:060:38:10

Normal liver is quite soft, but not as soft as this.

0:38:100:38:15

And it has a much meatier, much redder, bloody colour - dark red.

0:38:150:38:19

The lightness in this is caused by the fat within the liver,

0:38:190:38:23

and the fat is deposited within the hepatocytes,

0:38:230:38:26

which are the liver cells.

0:38:260:38:28

This fat would obviously be pale in colour,

0:38:280:38:31

and liver cells themselves are dark, so the combination of the two

0:38:310:38:34

gives you this light, sort of, pink colour. That's a much,

0:38:340:38:37

much lighter colour than you'd expect a normal liver to be.

0:38:370:38:40

That is a classic sign of fatty liver disease,

0:38:400:38:43

and it's becoming a major problem,

0:38:430:38:45

and is one of the major reasons for liver transplant in the world.

0:38:450:38:50

The most common cause of fatty liver, at the moment,

0:38:500:38:52

is alcohol-related fatty liver.

0:38:520:38:55

But we know that this lady drank almost nothing,

0:38:550:38:59

so it's very unlikely that this change is due to

0:38:590:39:02

alcohol consumption.

0:39:020:39:04

Almost certainly an obesity-related change.

0:39:040:39:07

Fatty liver causes damage to the liver.

0:39:080:39:11

It can lead on to cirrhosis,

0:39:110:39:13

and it can actually lead on to cancer as well.

0:39:130:39:15

But even if people do not develop cancer or cirrhosis,

0:39:150:39:19

it can lead to liver failure.

0:39:190:39:20

So there's multiple ways that it can actually lead

0:39:200:39:22

to the death of a patient.

0:39:220:39:24

It didn't lead to the death of this lady,

0:39:240:39:26

really because her heart was itself so bad,

0:39:260:39:29

but this is very dramatic change within this liver.

0:39:290:39:32

Before the postmortem,

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we could never have known how dramatically damaged

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our donor's liver would be,

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or that she'd be carrying a second life-threatening disease.

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But excess internal fat doesn't have to be a death sentence.

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The good news is the fight to beat the dangerous invisible fat

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can be won.

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It is a daily struggle, but the prize is big.

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Now I'm trying to lose weight.

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I've actually lost 3.5 stone.

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I'm in a weight management clinic.

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I get support through a dietician.

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I get support through weekly weigh-ins.

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I get support from a counsellor, you know, which is really,

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really handy to help with your mental,

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you know, frame of mind as well.

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So what I've been doing to lose weight is cutting out the chocolate,

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cutting out the biscuits, cutting out the crisps - all that stuff.

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I'm not perfect. I still have the takeaways, you know?

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I still have the cheeky bar of chocolate.

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But, you know, I've also been exercising a lot more,

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and really pushing myself to exercise, you know?

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Pushing myself to get to the gym.

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In terms of activity, I struggle.

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I try and get in an hour of walking a day,

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but I don't always manage it.

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Just walking around the park

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half a dozen times doesn't really do it for me, you know?

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I don't like running - I have a problem with my knees.

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To start jogging around a park is not only just a physically difficult

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thing, but it's an emotionally difficult thing to do -

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to get out there in jogging gear,

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for all the world to see some, you know, parts of your body's jiggling

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that you just don't want them to see, sadly.

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I've had gym memberships up the wazoo.

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I've done detoxes for 22 days,

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just drinking lemon juice, cayenne pepper,

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water and a bit of maple syrup.

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It's disgusting, I can tell you.

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But I have tried a lot, and I will probably end up trying more.

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But I think slowly getting better and making better choices is really

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where it's all about.

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My motivation to now tackle my weight,

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and to try and reach a healthier weight is because

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I have now recovered from my binge eating disorder.

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It's a shame that it had to get this bad for me to, you know,

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to get to this point, but I did need to access that, sort of,

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psychological help first, in my case.

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You know, I've now seen the limits that being overweight has put on

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my life, and I want to reverse those

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and get back out there and just live life to the full.

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I'm quite conscious, these days, of what I eat.

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I do go to the gym.

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I do what I can to lose weight,

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or at least maintain it even if I can't lose it drastically.

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OK.

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Turn a little bit.

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I am a plus size style, beauty and lifestyle blogger.

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People do get inspired by those sort of things,

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so I think it's quite useful for me to, kind of, you know,

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get out there. It's actually helped me boost my confidence.

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Perfect. Yup.

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Exercise is not my best friend.

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It's quite a chore for me, in a sense.

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But I feel that, in life, with a lot of things, you've just got to,

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you know, make the effort to do

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things even that you don't necessarily love.

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In January, I decided to join a running club

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called Too Fat To Run.

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And it was really, really scary at first.

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I went out and I ran for, like, ten minutes,

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which doesn't sound long, but when you haven't run

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and then, suddenly, you can run for ten minutes,

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you're like, "Oh, crap, I can do that. That was kind of cool."

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Then I did my first 5K race.

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Finishing a race feels so much better than, I don't know...

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It sounds really, really cheesy,

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but it feels so much better than finishing a pack of crisps.

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Every race I do, I can't believe that I've finished it.

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Next, Carla will remove the final group of organs,

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but even in the last stages of the postmortem,

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she takes nothing for granted.

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People who donate their bodies to medical science really are giving

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a gift. It is the gift that keeps on giving, actually, because,

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as a patient, I think we all would prefer

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that our doctors and our surgeons have learned

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on something, you know, realistic to their job

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before they're let loose on a human patient.

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You know, you wouldn't really let a mechanic take care of your car

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if he'd never touched an engine,

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and it's very much the same thing with this.

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Real bodies are very unpredictable

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and very chaotic compared to anything,

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you know, fake - anything like a virtual reality or a fake cadaver -

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because if you look here,

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what you should be able to see are the kidneys -

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granted, they always have a tiny capsule of fat around them,

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a bit like a sort of edamame bean, that you can pop out -

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but these fatty capsules are very, very large.

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So all that you can really see at this point is a kind of yellow,

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glistening mess, really.

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So this is, again, indicative of the fact that she has

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an awful lot of extra fat around her organs.

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So I'm just slicing through the fibrous tissues and the bits of

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muscle that are keeping the kidneys attached to the spine.

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And it's really exactly the same thing that I've been doing

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with the rest of the organs,

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and that is releasing them from the spine,

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which is what anchors them in place.

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And then I can just reflect them all the way down and pull them out.

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And this is the genitourinary block.

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And this is at least slightly smaller, slightly easier to manage,

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cos we've only got the kidneys in this.

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So much fat, still.

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Mike needs to dissect the kidneys to find out just how much damage has

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been caused by all that excess fat.

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This is the right kidney. This is the left kidney.

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This, in the middle, is the big blood vessel

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that carries blood all the way down the body.

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And the most important and the first thing I can see is

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there's an unusual amount of fat around these kidneys.

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Now, the kidneys always have fat around them.

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Kidneys are not protected by bone,

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which means that they can be bashed and they can be hit,

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if you walk into something or something hits you,

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so this fat protects them.

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This lady has much, much more fat than I would expect.

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What I'm going to do first is just cut through this fat,

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which is called the perirenal fat.

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And you can see quite clearly how much fat there really is.

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In a thin person,

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this would probably be...

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..half or a third as thick as I can see here.

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This is bad news for this lady.

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It means that she is more likely to have the complications of obesity,

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because of the way she's carrying the fat.

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This pale area here is the kidney.

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I'm just going to cut into the kidney.

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So the kidney's got a thick capsule around it.

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Now there's a small amount of fat in the middle of the kidney.

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That's completely normal.

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That's where... Basically, the kidney is responsible for

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filtering your blood and for making the urine.

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That urine has to go somewhere, so your kidney's got a funnel

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that collects all the urine from all the bits of the kidney,

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takes it down through your ureter into the bladder and then,

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when you want to go to the loo, it goes out.

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So this bit of fat sits around that funnel area, and is quite normal.

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I'm going to take the thick capsule off of the kidney surface,

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to see what the surface of the kidney looks like.

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The surface of the kidney, ideally, should be very, very smooth.

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This kidney has got some scarring on the surface.

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There's areas of indentation and pock marking.

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There is clear damage to this kidney which would be associated with high

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blood pressure, and we know this lady had high blood pressure,

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which is what led to the changes

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within her heart and which led to her death.

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The visible scarring and pock marking we've discovered

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on our donor's kidneys are the last of the revelations she will yield,

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before Carla completes the postmortem

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and closes the body for ever.

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When Mike's finished his examination,

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I then begin the reconstruction.

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And, in a way, that's one of the most important parts

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of the postmortem.

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What I do is, I place all of the organs into a special viscera bag,

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which will contain all of the elements that we've removed

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in the different blocks, and I place that into the body cavity.

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And then I use very heavy postmortem twine to stitch, as neatly as I can,

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right along the incision that I made.

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We describe this as a baseball stitch -

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it does look very much like a zig-zaggy stitch.

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Each postmortem is unique, and everything they reveal valuable.

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This donor's gift was an opportunity for Mike and Carla to unveil the

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shocking truths hidden inside one body,

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irreversibly damaged by too much fat.

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The evisceration occurred,

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and it wasn't as easy to do as it would be with

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a slightly smaller patient.

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It takes a lot more strength to cut through this yellow adipose tissue,

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which kind of blooms out of the abdomen in this, you know,

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practically neon yellow.

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And it looks very much like butter, and it has a greasy feel.

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And it makes you suddenly very aware of the fat in your own body.

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Well, it made me aware of the fat in my own body,

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and the effect that that might have on my organs,

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the strain it might put on my heart, the way it may affect my liver.

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I think that doing a postmortem such as this

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is a really fantastic way for people

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to consider their own health and their own mortality.

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We never really know what we're going to find

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when we examine the patient.

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The first thing I noticed when the body had been opened

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was the markedly fatty liver.

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I know, from the history that was provided,

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that this lady died from heart failure,

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but the findings in her heart are extremely marked

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and the severity of them actually surprises me.

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But before we did the postmortem there was no indication

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that this lady had a fatty liver, and it's a possibility that,

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even if this lady had not developed heart failure,

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she may have gone on to develop liver failure

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due to the fatty change within the liver.

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We already knew a little about the way that this woman lived

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and how she died.

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What we couldn't have known before the postmortem was the extent

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to which obesity would have ravaged her internal organs,

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from the suffocating fluid in her lungs to her scarred kidneys,

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creating a potent mix of life-threatening,

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obesity-related disease.

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I know that, health-wise,

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being obese and being large, it just isn't good.

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So if I can do this documentary to help other people to see what it's

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doing to them, internally, for them to motivate theirself,

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so that they can lose weight so that they, you know,

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maybe they can have a child or maybe they can live a little bit longer,

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a little bit happier.

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That's why I'm doing this - to help people.

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It's fine to have...

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..like, politicians - like the Health Secretary or,

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like, whoever or, like,

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doctors on TV - saying everyone needs to eat less and move more,

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kind of thing,

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but until you can actually relate that to yourself,

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then you can say, "Oh, that's not me.

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"That's not going to happen to me."

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I think a postmortem of someone with obesity

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is going to be quite shocking

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for a lot of people, who maybe think that they can deal with it.

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And I've been there. I have been there as well.

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"Deal with it tomorrow. I'm all right, right now.

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"It's not affecting, you know... I don't need a machine to sleep.

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"I can get around fine, you know?"

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And just putting those choices off until tomorrow.

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Time goes by so quickly, and...

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..it's really important to think about, you know,

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what's going on inside you now and where that might actually end up -

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where you could end up.

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