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Christmas dinner. For some of us, it's heaven. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
I think it's the perfect meal. It's absolute heaven to me. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Conviviality, family, wider society, eating in the middle of winter. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
For others, it's hell. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
The three most depressing words in the English language, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
"all the trimmings." | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
Christmas dinner, when we're expected to get together full of the spirit of good cheer, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:44 | |
stuffing our faces and drinking ourselves into oblivion. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
A time when class, anxiety and bad temper | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
all bubble up and spew forth over the dinner table. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
It's in women's DNA to feel totally resentful about the Christmas meal, you know, when they're born. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:01 | |
-I've never cooked Christmas dinner. -I've never eaten one of these. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
It's one of "these" that is the prima donna in the great drama we call Christmas dinner. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:12 | |
There is a tremendous amount of theatre with it. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I think that's good actually. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Like all great theatrical productions, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Christmas dinner has its stars, stage managers and script writers. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
And then you begin the process of lubricating the dry bird. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:29 | |
It's a time just for family. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
It was one of the only occasions, really, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
when the whole family came together. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
That meant that all sorts of obscure cousins and aunts, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
and people that one never saw at any other time of the year. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Christmas, the one time we let our hair down, put on silly hats and quite literally go crackers. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
Whoa! | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
Right, that's me. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
It is the last great feast in the British culinary tradition. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
What do you call a sick crocodile? | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
An ILLIGATOR. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Christmas dinner, a love/hate relationship we have been in for years. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
A feast that unites but also divides. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Christmas. The festive season. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Eat, drink and be merry cos tomorrow we snuff it. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Come on, liven yourself up a bit. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
At this time of year, one way or another, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
we all end up...stuffed. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
Christmas dinner, when a nation lives on the edge of nervous breakdown. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
The enduring memory of Christmas is my mum peeling the potatoes, you have to peel. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
You always do too much, throwing them like bullets into the water, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
after she'd taken the peel off. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
My sister and I just exchanging glances... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
It's Christmas, Mum. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Well, I could do without it. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
It may be a holiday for some, but, for me, it's just extra work. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
At this rate I'll never be able to go out. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
There's so many bits to it. I mean, it's kind of like the roast Sunday lunch, you know, 20 times over. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
And you do have to do your timings right. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I mean, I do my own personal timetable every year. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
It was a military exercise going on. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
In this war, the orders are given, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
the supplies are ready, everyone is in position, let battle commence. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Roast turkey and veg is not a very difficult meal to do anyway. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
But it's sort of made to seem, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
and probably by people like me, saying this is how you do it, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
you know, at 9.30 you have to put the pudding on to boil, and... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
It makes it too difficult. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
In our home it was my mother who got up, she used to set her alarm, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
she used to work it all out on Christmas Eve. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
What time she had to get the turkey into the oven in time for it to cook, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
because it was always enormous. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
I have memories of her getting up at four or five in the morning to put it in. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Food writers fill our heads with, "Oh, you've got to put it in muslin, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
"you've to brine it, turn it over, put it on this side, or that side." | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
It's more pampered than a baby by the time it comes to the table. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Actually, it's just a big chicken! | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Put it in the oven and roast it. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
OK, your prize turkey is plucked, basted, stuffed and prepared. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
What could possibly go wrong now? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
One year, we all woke up to find that there's no electricity in the house at all. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
The turkey had been in, and I just heard my mother swear. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
I mean, as if somebody had died. I just heard her shrieking. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
It was like, "There's no electricity, no electricity!" | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
My father's going, "Calm down, calm down," and his proposition... | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
It's so set that we have to do this a certain way - we were all horrified! | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
"We'll have to do it on the barbecue." | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Well, at least it's quick. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
To be honest, if I drop the turkey on the floor and don't tell anybody, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
it's not going to be the end of the world. I am not concerned about it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Because I am a competent, confident cook, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
even if I overcook it, I know that the most central thing is not | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
that they've come here to give me Michelin stars. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
They're not coming to judge me for my excellence of my cuisine. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
I hope they're coming because they're my family, they love us all, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and so they come to see us. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
People are inclined to head for a nervous breakdown when they think | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
they've got to do Christmas dinner. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
What is it? It's a roast dinner. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
No more complicated than anything else. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
Marguerite Patton was one of the nation's first TV cooks. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
Her sage advice, for over 50 years, has given reassurance | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
to those trying to cook that perfect Christmas dinner. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Don't turn yourself into a martyr and don't get yourself in a state. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
If you think about it, work it out, it's really a very, very simple meal. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
Stuffing our faces at Christmas - it's nothing new. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
We've been putting it away in the bleak midwinter for hundreds of years. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
Feasting, as opposed to ordinary dining, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
is always about conspicuous consumption. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
It's about having more than you really need to satisfy your hunger. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
It's about, "Look, eating is not simply a question of getting by." | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
It's not just a question of waving a fist at winter starvation, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
it's, "We've got more than we could possibly need, we have an abundance here." | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
So whose bright idea was it to have a party in the middle of winter, when it's cold and wet? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:50 | |
It's really a way of marking the change of seasons and it's something | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
that human beings, as long as there's been historical records, have done. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
The Romans did it, the Greeks did it, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
everybody marks this particular change of season, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
and it's got something to do, of course, with the solstice. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
You mark the time when the days begin to get longer. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Feasting and merry-making has always been about showing off. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
Keeping up with the Joneses. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
Flashing the cash. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Profusion of food has always been an expression of power | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
and of, obviously, wealth and well-to-do-ness. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
That both set out who you were, by how much you could put on your table, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
and also bonded the social bonds of hierarchy, all the way down, and made people pull together. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
It's always been the case that in periods of great feasting, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Christmas being one of them, the finest food is reserved. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
The best cheeses kept, the finest hams cured, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
the best green goose fattened and the best vegetables kept aside. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
Few of us today share high table with the local lord, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
but even in the most humble semi, we still enjoy the rituals of Christmas feast. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
For a lot of us in our much smaller houses, with the central heating switched up too high, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
it might feel something the opposite of a release, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
it might feel like the tension's really building. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
But at its heart, that's what it's all about. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Conviviality, family, wider society, eating in the middle of winter. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
The feast element of Christmas lunch is admirable. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:30 | |
It's what you're feasting on, which, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
I think, leaves an awful lot to be desired. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
But the actual idea of feasts | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
and good fellowship and...uh... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and carols and things like that I think are great. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:51 | |
I'm not sure about crackers. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Feasting is ritualised. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
It has to have an element of ritual in it or it isn't feasting, it's just pigging out. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
It has to have some content, some sort of rules and regulations, even if they're broken. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:07 | |
I think it is important that some of the rules and regulations have to do with the menu. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
So follow the wisdom of the ancients. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Play those party games. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
Drink a little. Find room for that extra helping. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Wear your silly hats with pride, and reach for the pagan inside of you. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
If you think about the Christmas meal, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
it has no religious significance whatsoever. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Nothing in it has got anything to do with the birth of Jesus. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
I think, maybe, some people would enjoy it more if they could take the religious element out of it, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
and think about feasting, the food, and think about having a good time. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
I think it's the one day in the year we should be able to eat | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
whatever we want and sort of hang the health police. It's feasting. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
I think that denying yourself things is bad for your health, to be honest. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Happy Christmas, everybody. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Happy Christmas. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Chances are, you'll be sitting down to a large plump turkey this Christmas. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
But there's been something of a war going on between the big fella | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
and its feisty rival, the goose, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
for a good few years, and the feathers still continue to fly. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
The turkey lacks the flamboyance of the peacock | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
and you wouldn't even stuff your duvet with its feathers, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
unlike those of its great enemy, the goose. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
The poor bird has never had a good press. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Yet, every year, most of us turn to the turkey to be the centrepiece of our Christmas dinner. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
Turkey has been eaten at times of feasting | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
since it was introduced in the mid-16th century. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
It was Henry VIII who first introduced turkey at Christmas. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
It substituted for goose. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
This was because turkeys had been imported by the Spaniards from the New World | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
and that took off again in mid-Victorian period, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
so what we've got is a colonial bird sitting at the centre of our British table. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
It was the Victorians who elected the turkey to be bird of choice at Christmas. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
And it was one writer, in particular, who puffed up the pretensions of the turkey. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Well, Mrs Beeton does say, in fact, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
that for a nation of empire, for the middle classes, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
that turkey is the bird for Christmas. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
"A noble dish is a turkey, roast or boiled. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
"A Christmas dinner, with the middle classes of this empire, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
"would scarcely be a Christmas dinner without its turkey. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
"And we can hardly imagine an object of greater envy | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
"than is presented by respectable, portly paterfamilias, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
"carving, at the season devoted to good cheer and genial charity, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
"his own fat turkey and carving it well." | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
So, turkey is taking over, from the 1860s, as the great, traditional bird, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
carved by the paterfamilias at the head of the table. Very iconic. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
You get Mrs Beeton making it quite clear that | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
paterfamilias should be portly first of all, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
and how different that is from our own feelings. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
These days he'd be off to the gym, absolutely no problem about that. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
Also the way in which she knows that her reader may well not actually be | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
quite of the class that knows how to carve a turkey instinctively, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
so she needs to provide instructions. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
But those instructions are very, very technical. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
They play on all the kind of middle class skills that we associate with this kind of new body of people, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:28 | |
these new technocrats of Victorian Britain. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
She could well be describing how to build the Clifton suspension bridge. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
It's got that technical quality that's going to appeal, particularly to her kind of reader. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
When not building bridges or slicing turkeys, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
the Victorians were a sentimental lot and none more so than Charles Dickens. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
A Christmas Carol played a key role in the poultry war between turkey and goose. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
There you are my boy, here's the address, there's the money. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
In A Christmas Carol, the Cratchits initially have a goose, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
but when Scrooge is re-educated, he sends "a turkey as big as a boy." | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
The whole point is that turkeys were bigger than geese, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
so there was more food, it was more of a kind of gluttonous exercise. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
But today, not everybody is convinced of the virtues of the turkey, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
especially hardened food critics. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
There's an awful lot of meat on a turkey and not much meat on a goose. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
A goose will feed four adequately and six at a push. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
Turkey just seems to go on forever. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
You eat too much, you feel bloated. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
It comes with the three most depressing words in the English language, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
"all the trimmings." | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Do we get turkey? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
Well, they call it turkey, but not having seen it carved we don't know, do we? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
And if it is, then the one we had on our block last year must have been funny shape. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
28 legs and no breast. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Like Lulu And The Young Generation. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
That's really good. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Even free range, community-minded turkeys, which give to charity and have led a good life, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
even they taste too much like a turkey for me to have any enthusiasm about them. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:13 | |
Actually, I think turkey is a much maligned beast. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
It's delicious. If it's not overcooked, it's a very good meat. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
But its main function is to look spectacular. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
Like the main function of a Christmas pud is to come in in flames. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
It's festive, it's like fireworks. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
The turkey gets a bad press, first because of people like my mother who destroyed several turkeys | 0:14:31 | 0:14:39 | |
in the course of her lifetime, and because it's very easy to cook a turkey badly. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:47 | |
It's a lot easier to cook a turkey badly than to cook a turkey well. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
One year we had Peking duck, we decided to just have a completely different meal. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
And we all loved it, but the next year we went back to turkey. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Or sometimes we'd have goose and then we'd go back to turkey. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
So, turkey or goose? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
What's this really about? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
The reason that we eat turkey at Christmas is basically an economic one. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
It's a very large bird that serves a lot of people cheaply. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
Cheaper than goose, which is the next largest bird, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
and so few of us can afford peacocks or swans any more. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
When I got more into food as I got older, I wanted to have goose because I thought that was just | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
quite a lot more kind of foody, that was a lot more chic. And they taste better. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
Goose is now found on more and more tables, encouraged by the most matronly of cooks. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
Such a splendid thing a goose, isn't it? Wonderful creature. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
I love them and what I love | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
is the masses of fat that is left that you can treasure. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
I know, that's right. And even rub on your chest in a case of emergency. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
Rub it on your chest or your boots! | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Turkey or goose. It's also a question of exactly WHERE you are. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
The Gotkin family, who farm at Minsterworth in Gloucestershire, don't buy their Christmas dinner, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
they rear it, a tradition dating back in these parts to the 13th century. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
The main course, although it doesn't know it, has just waddled through the gate. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Country people still prefer the rich, dark meat of a goose to the more recently fashionable turkey. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:28 | |
So now that you've dried baby's bottom, are you going to put talcum powder on it? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
I'm going to pat it and prick it and mark it and put it in the oven, baby and me. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:39 | |
No, I'm going to stuff it! | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
I didn't think, we're going to have goose this year because that makes us really fancy, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
I did want to eat the goose instead. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
But I found that when I told others you had goose, I had to be careful, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
because, "Oh, how the other half lives!" | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Now this bird is between nine and ten pounds and it will take 2½ hours. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
Now, we'll open this... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Hope it'll fit! | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
There were years where there were rows about oven space | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
because we did a turkey and a goose cos not everybody liked goose. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
And also, goose, the flesh-to-bone ratio isn't great, so there's less meat when you do a goose. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
Although the good thing about that is - there's no leftovers. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
You eat it on Christmas and that's it, you're not making sandwiches. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
No leftovers? What an affront. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Yet more heresy from the goose cult? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
A turkey-free table may be a blessed relief for many, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
but for some, leftovers are the best bit of the meal. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
My favourite food of all is a sandwich made of leftovers and it's the one thing, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
when the children have gone to bed when they're older, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
when the parents are sitting back and having their whisky or whatever, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
I'll go to the kitchen on my own and make my ideal leftover sandwich. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
And I just... it's absolute heaven to me. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
I love cold cuts. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
I mean cold turkey, cold ham, I mean, what's better? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I know everyone always complains about leftovers | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
but for me at Christmas it's really the best part. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I like the traditional and incredibly bad for you, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
fattening, unhealthy way of dealing with Christmas pud leftovers which is to slice it up cold, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:14 | |
tip it in sugar and fry it in butter. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Now, what do you do with the sacred rituals of Christmas dinner | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
if you come from a culture which has no place for turkey and all the trimmings? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
I didn't really know that much about Christmas dinner, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
it was something which was special and protected | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
and it wasn't something that we'd been invited to, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
so I knew that there was something. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
But the rituals of the mince pies and the turkey, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
that all felt slightly mysterious and something that was in a club that I wasn't part of. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
-DOORBELL RINGS -Hi! -Hello! | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
-Merry Christmas! -Merry Christmas! | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
If you're Asian, there isn't just one way | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
to be about Christmas, and my family totally ignored Christmas. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
But my best friend who was Sikh and still is Sikh, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
he absolutely loved Christmas and during the whole of the time | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
during sixth form and college when I was there, he took it upon | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
himself to be in charge of the turkey and he would give me stories about how | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
the turkey was going to be huge and he was going to cook it | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
and I always felt strange because I thought, why are you so embracing Christmas? You're a Sikh! | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
Is the food ready? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
In today's Britain, the relationship between old and new is one of give and take. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
This is what Christmas is all about - sprouts! | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Christmas dinner is being spiced up by our rainbow nation. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
I have friends now for whom Christmas is something which they blend. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
They say, "We'll have a halal turkey, we'll have samosas as well as Brussels sprouts | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
"and we'll put a bit of masala dip on the Brussels sprouts." | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
So there are different ways, I think, to mix the two now in terms | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
of Christmas and the culture you come from. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Despite our love of tradition, we've always embraced new influences on our national cuisine. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
Talking from a food point of view, as an island we've always been | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
very, very open to change and the new. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
As an island with an empire and even before, being invaded a couple of times, we have actually always | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
been good at taking on the new and refashioning it for the society that we've been living in. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
But sometimes in this "conversation" some things get lost in translation. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
It's only in the last few years I've found out mince pies don't have mince. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Because if you never eat them, if you never really are offered that... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
I remember we were going somewhere and someone asked if I wanted one. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
I said, "If it's not halal, I can't." And they said there isn't really any mince in them, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
and it made me feel like an idiot. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
But why would you know that unless you'd had a chance to eat them? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Now other ways of tasting the world have created a revolution in the way we experience Christmas dinner. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:00 | |
More people are starting to turn down turkey for Christmas dinner. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
They're Britain's vegetarians and for them, the alternative Christmas meal can be very different. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
On Christmas Day, two million people will be sitting down, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
not to turkey and all the trimmings, but vegetarian delicacies like this cashew nut and mushroom roast. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:22 | |
The first couple of years that I was in university, we had Christmas dinner | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
with the people I was living in the house with. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Luckily, there were a couple of vegetarians. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
If you're a Muslim, you can't eat meat that's not halal, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
so you become a de facto vegetarian and we had this nut roast. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
How do vegetarians get their protein at Christmas? Nigel. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
We asked the Vegetarian Society to cook us a Christmas dinner and they produced this. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
It's a nut roast with vegetables. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
The cost for six people is £2. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Protein is provided by combining eggs, breadcrumbs and chestnuts. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
You're dipping into that, what do you think? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
I find it a dull taste, but I'm sure it's the sort of taste | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
that you could actually get to like. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
A nut roast seemed like a contradiction in terms, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
it doesn't seem Christmassy to me. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
It felt like a bargain-basement compromise, but at the same time I was sitting around | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
a bunch of people and we could all be part of something. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
Yet, there are those that can't help feeling that making the dinner table | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
a meat-free zone just isn't Christmas. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Vegetarians and vegans have a really serious problem at Christmas. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Not what they eat, but the theatre of how it's presented. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
The real trouble is that no matter how you prepare it, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
no matter how you slice it, even if you make it of brazil nuts, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
a nut roast is not a great big roast bird. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
The whole point of the meal is the ritual and the theatricality of it | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
and that, sadly, is something that vegetarians have chosen to forgo. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
Some feel too much choice at the table challenges the very essence of Christmas. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
One now feels absolutely obliged to find out | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
what dietary peculiarities are going to come into the house. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Everyone's got an allergy, everyone has got some sort of fad. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
It does make the idea of ritual much more difficult because | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
a feast is about sharing and everyone is eating the same thing. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
Mind you, gluttony of the old school does have its uses. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
Having someone collapse on Christmas Day could ruin the day but it could | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
also make the day, especially if it's a very unpopular person. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
SNORING | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-Got your Christmas tree. -Thank you. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
-Is that one all right? -Yes, super. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
# God bless you, merry gentlemen... # | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
The sights, smells, sounds of Christmas dinner, surely they've been around since Adam and Eve | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
swapped fig leaves for mistletoe and stuffed the first turkey. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
It was the Victorians who established the form and ideas and sort of content even of the Christmas | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
that WE now celebrate by taking over some of the traditions from Germany of trees | 0:24:14 | 0:24:21 | |
and the pagan custom of bringing green stuff into the house. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
And it was Prince Albert who, having wooed Queen Victoria with his Germanic | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
good looks and shiny baubles, came to symbolise the strong paterfamilias at the festive table. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
In the mid-1840s, the Illustrated London News prints a picture of Prince Albert | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
and Queen Victoria and the beginning of their huge brood | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
clustered around the Christmas tree. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Queen Victoria and Prince Albert | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
are the kind of middle-class family par excellence | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
and there's a huge appetite for knowing what goes on | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
in the Windsor Castle nursery, massive appetite for knowing what a family life should be like. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
Royal Vic and Albert made the Christmas meal a truly family affair. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
The notion of holiday and family and eating and presents, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
all kind of codified around Victoria and Albert's great family Christmas idea | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
and it's also, isn't it, when the whole cult of domesticity really takes off | 0:25:18 | 0:25:24 | |
in Britain, and suburbs are growing and the Englishman's home is his castle? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:30 | |
Suddenly, people have to travel to be with each other at Christmas, so it becomes special. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
You've also got that very ordinary thing like new lithographic processes and a penny post, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
which means from the mid-1840s it's cheap to send Christmas cards and, of course, those visual images | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
that are on the Christmas cards, we wouldn't necessarily recognise them. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
It's not robins and snowmen, often it's kind of idealised family groupings. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
So, again, you get a sense of people are thinking themselves | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
into the ideal nuclear Christmas family. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
As the Victorian middle classes gathered around their Christmas trees, swapping cards | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
and singing carols, it took the greatest writer of the period | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
to introduce the sentiment that the poor also deserved a slap-up meal. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
For Dickens, Christmas dinner was a powerful metaphor highlighting poverty at the time. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Dickens had an idea of the symbolic importance of Christmas | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
and that Christmas above all | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
was the time of year when NOBODY must go without. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
CHILDREN CHEER | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
"There never was such a goose. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
"Bob said he didn't believe there ever was such a goose cooked. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
"Its tenderness and flavour, size and cheapness, were the themes of universal admiration. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:53 | |
"Eked out by the apple sauce and mashed potatoes, it was a sufficient dinner for the whole family. | 0:26:53 | 0:27:00 | |
"Indeed, as Mrs Cratchit said with great delight - | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
"surveying one small atom of a bone upon the dish - | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
"they hadn't ate it all at last. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
"Yet everyone had had enough and the youngest Cratchits | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
"in particular were steeped in sage and onion to the eyebrows." | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
I've eaten too much! | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
And even now we haven't eaten it all! | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
What he's talking about is, think what happens at Christmas time | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
to the great, great number of people who are in want, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
who are just one meal away from the workhouse. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Thank you! | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
The Cratchits are Dickens' ideal members of society. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:46 | |
-Goodbye, my darling! -Goodbye, father! | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
In a sense because they make the best of what they have. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
But it's pathetic what they have and he admires them intensely | 0:27:54 | 0:28:01 | |
for insisting on the importance of Christmas, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:09 | |
the importance of the celebration, of the feast. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
The other key Victorian influence on a Great British Christmas dinner was her again, yes, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
the Nigella of her day, Mrs Beeton, whose book of household management was a bestseller. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:23 | |
Dickens had made Christmas a family occasion in A Christmas Carol. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
What Mrs Beeton does is extend that, so she harnesses the Christmas meal | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
to ideas of Britishness and ideas of the colony as well. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
So she makes the Christmas dinner, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
as it were, the focus point for a whole load of ideas about | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
what Britishness means, what the colony means. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
So, let's get this straight. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
We are sitting down to a pagan custom which had a Germanic makeover | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
before being transformed into a meal that united a nation. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
Simple, really. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
What it really points to is kind of Victorian genius for thinking up | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
things which will just go on and on and on and on. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:08 | |
Like our railways, bridges and sewers, Christmas dinner seems to be another Victorian creation | 0:29:08 | 0:29:14 | |
that will outlast us all. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
At Christmas, we can't move for TV chefs and celebrity cooks | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
all plying their trade, inspiring us and exasperating us in equal measure. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
Christmas is here and what does it bring? | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
Apart from all those family and friends that are going to charge down | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
to see you on Christmas Day, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
it brings that main cooking event of the year. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
Hello and welcome to my little series on Christmas know-how. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
As a variant on the ordinary Christmas pudding, I thought it would be a nice treat for the boys | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
to make a Christmas pudding ice-cream. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
For TV chefs, Christmas dinner is a hardy perennial, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
coming up every year in need of a fresh pruning. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It's the only time when all our mates come together in one place to have a boogie! | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Some of us are just so boringly cynical about Christmas but I just love it. Every last twinkling light. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:19 | |
In the beginning, when everything was black and white, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
the first lady of the studio kitchen was Marguerite Patton. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Still on hand in her ninth decade with advice about how to deal with that bird. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Take it out of the oven and pierce it there and see what happens. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:39 | |
If the juice that flows is pink, it's not quite ready, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
so back again it goes into the oven. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
The person before me on BBC television was called Philip Harben. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
The founding father of TV chefs made the studio a place | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
for unusual cooking methods, even when it came to Christmas dinner. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
He was a great experimental person. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
He wanted to find new ways of doing things and on this particular Christmas, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
I can see it as if it were yesterday, he's cooked a turkey in a big, white bread bin | 0:31:07 | 0:31:14 | |
in simmering water and I was so shocked. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
"Philip," I said, "a turkey has to be brown." | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
"It'll be brown later on," he said, "but in doing that I'm making sure | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
"it's very, very tender and delicious." | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
The first domestic goddess of the small screen found live television a challenge. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
At the end of the 1950s the BBC said, "Marguerite, we're going to have one or two French films so that we can | 0:31:34 | 0:31:41 | |
"introduce French cookery to the British public." | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
"Yes, that sounds interesting." | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
"But we want to do a recipe that we can export to France. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
"We think your Christmas pudding will be exactly the thing to do." | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
Of course, Marguerite's producers wanted spectacle and drama from her. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
Some things never change. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
What people don't realise is the lights in television studio going back all those years | 0:32:03 | 0:32:09 | |
were absolutely terrific and while the flame was very good, it really didn't show on the screen very much. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:16 | |
"Right, Marguerite, put some more brandy on." | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
"Right!" Some more brandy went up. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Lit it again. "Oh, that's not good enough. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
"Put some sugar on, Marguerite." | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
"Right!" So I put some sugar on and a bit more brandy. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
We lit it. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
There was a terrific whoosh and it was almost like a bomb going up. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
So what the French thought of the British habit of Christmas pudding | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
I've never heard, but I think they must have thought we were idiots! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
As black and white television gave way to colour, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
there appeared a new and brash dominatrix of the television kitchen to shake things up for the nation. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:51 | |
Fanny Craddock. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
Now when I realised that for over 20 years | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
I've been doing Christmas cookery on television, stage and in national newspapers, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
I thought the one constructive thing I could offer | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
was a series of items that I've made for Christmas | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
and found out over the years the absolutely easiest and most delicious and successful ways of doing them. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:20 | |
Fanny was no-nonsense and hands-on, but some of her advice was at times a little unfortunate. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:27 | |
You begin the process of lubricating the dry bird. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
Fanny was vehement that her kitchen was a place of tradition | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
where men were the enemy. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
Let's draw breath, let me wipe my hands clean because I want to tackle | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
the thing that men infuriate me over most. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
And I want to share with you how French women cope with this thing | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
without any interference from the male. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
I'm no Women's Lib, don't think for a moment. I'm not such a clot. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
For Fanny, cooking became a psycho-drama, a convenient substitute for everyday hatred. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
Think of somebody you don't like but you're too well bred to say what you think of them | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
so you take it out on the goose. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
And then I call for help... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
With nervous acolytes on hand, Fanny was, for a while, the High Priestess of the TV kitchen. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:16 | |
Inside the base - it's all right, darling, I can reach. Then... | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
But how much more Fanny could we take? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
May I repeat in case I haven't made my point strongly enough? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Viewers soon became beguiled by a new generation of TV chefs | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
showing us the way to a less histrionic Christmas dinner. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
These celebrity chefs were keen to offer their own special take on Christmas dinner. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Funky ideas to breathe new life into this most traditional of meals. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
And for every cook at home battling with an undercooked turkey and overboiled veg, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
there was a confident and perfectly prepared TV chef on hand with generous helpings of advice. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
It's pudding time and I haven't got time to show you how to make those big, rich plum puddings | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
and these days, you can go out and buy a really good one. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
For celebrity chefs, Christmas dinner is the perfect stage. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
All ready to serve! | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Here's Nigella nicely HAMMING it up. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Put the ham in a pan, cover it with water, let it come to the boil | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
and once it boils just chuck out the water, start again. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
This is my lead aroma, red wine. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
I always have a sort of amount of disdain for those wine writers | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
who talk about, you know, the blackberry smells and the new car leather and so on, but actually, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
there really is something incredibly aromatic about wine and especially when it's heated. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
And...come with me. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
She's going to be succulent, tasty. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
Now, let's just get her out of the roasting tray. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Oh, lift her up, pop her on there, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
and we'll leave her to rest for 30 minutes. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
In that time, all the juices will have calmed down inside the actual breast | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
and in the legs and it will be really tasty. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Now a real master class, Gary on sprouts. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
To save time the Brussels sprouts can be cooked in advance and then stored in the fridge until needed. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Simply peel and score the root of the sprouts to ensure even cooking. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
Plunge into boiling, salted water and cook without a lid. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
These two points are very important. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
They both help keep that beautiful, rich, green colour. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Return to the boil and cook until tender. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
A medium size sprout will take between six and eight minutes. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Once cooked, drain and plunge into ice water to immediately stop the cooking process. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
And the knives are out for Jamie, cooking up a storm with his mum. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
Right, I'm letting these steam for a little bit just to cool down a touch | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
and because I'm strange, the winglets here you can leave on and the little knuckles here | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
you can leave on, but they annoy me, so personally, I lose them because they annoy me. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
So do you usually cook when you come home? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Do I usually cook? Um, yeah. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-No! -No, I don't. But...no. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
No, he doesn't. No, he likes to come home and be looked after. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
Mum looks after me. I am a true mummy's boy. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
I love the way these look like rather squished teddy bears' noses | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
and I take a perverse pleasure now in massacring them. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
The hype and glamour that TV chefs bring to Christmas dinner is just | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
part of a bigger feast that's really more about Mammon than gammon. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
Happy Christmas! | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
Christmas has become, obviously, a big commercial opportunity. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Christmas dinner is something which millions of people know about, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
they share and they enjoy and so, obviously, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
everyone's going to want to have a part of it, so every chef going | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
is going to want to have their spin on the Christmas recipe. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
As we stock up to fill the fridge and freezer to bursting, there in the aisles are posters and effigies | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
of our favourite chefs, telling us exactly what to buy to make it all a very merry and monied Christmas. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:49 | |
I think in a way I can sort of see why they're doing it | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
because what they're saying is they know there is | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
a sitting market there, they know people will spend money | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and they want to know what Gordon or Jamie are going to be doing for Christmas. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:05 | |
Even the most assertive of TV chefs scrubs up, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
puts on a woolly and gets all soft-focused at Christmas. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
I spent many years eating Christmas pudding because Mum said it was very traditional | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
and now that I've grown up and got my own kitchen, I've come up with an exciting alternative. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
Now that's the sort of boy who could sit next to Gran. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
As food critics watch cooks and cookery shows take over the schedules, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
the mood runs from resigned to sceptical. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
One of the cheapest things in the world to do is a cookery programme | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
and so there's more and more television about food | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
and it's very entertaining and people are interested in it. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
I think it's a spectator sport. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
I don't think many people actually cook from the books | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
that are published. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
I don't think many people | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
are actually inspired to cook from the television thing. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
I think people watch these programmes as a form of escapist entertainment, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
and if anybody learns about a new dish, they're far more likely | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
to order it in a restaurant than they are to attempt it at home. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Cooking has been turned into a form of light entertainment on TV. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
Famously, the more chefs you have on the telly, the fewer people cook because they're bewitched by | 0:39:17 | 0:39:24 | |
who the person is. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Sage and onion stuffing. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
But are cooks on the box guilty of over-complicating a meal that's really just meat and two veg? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:35 | |
A recent cookery series ironically suggests we've had enough, we want to go back to basics. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:42 | |
Well, I found that programme very interesting because we got | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
four top chefs, who had won the first series of the Great British Menu, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
to cook their favourite Christmas dinner, and they all cooked traditional food. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
All of them except Richard Corrigan had a very sophisticated | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
restaurateur's kind of take on it and the public had to vote on them. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:04 | |
The one chef who just did what you'd do at home was Richard Corrigan | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
and that's what the public overwhelmingly voted for. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
There's a new sort of feeling about cookery I think which is going, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
it seems to me on television and in books, it seems to me slightly moving | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
away from glitzy TV chef kind of recipes that are frankly far too tricksy for most people | 0:40:20 | 0:40:27 | |
to be bothered to make and all about showing off and everything being perfect. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
There is a real movement towards, and it's like sourcing your own food and knowing where it comes from, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
towards simplicity. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:38 | |
Christmas dinner. Surely the one time that we are one nation under the mistletoe. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
The Christmas menu is, in its bare bones, classless | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
because it's simply a first course, a big bird and a pudding. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:07 | |
But on Christmas Day, are we equal or are some of us more equal than others? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:14 | |
On Christmas Day, more people are eating notionally the same thing | 0:41:14 | 0:41:21 | |
than they are at any other time of the year. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
CHEERING | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
They are partaking of the same communion, it's just that in one church | 0:41:26 | 0:41:32 | |
they have good oatcakes and in another they've got wafers which stick to your mouth. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
Your bird really is a question of class. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
At first it was just enough that the poor thing ran wild and free. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
While you can buy a 14-pound frozen imported bird for £7, one of these will cost you around £45. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:51 | |
I think they're happy and it's a fantastic way to rear turkeys, but - | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
and they agree with me - but it is an expensive way to rear turkeys. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
If all the turkeys that are consumed over Christmas were reared like this, we'd need an area | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
the whole of Yorkshire to do it, which isn't possible. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
But now, can you hear that? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
It's the sound of the organic middle classes on the march. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
The rise in organics and small farmers and farmers' markets | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
will gradually, I hope, become a much more universal thing. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
More people will realise that food is not threatening, that's it's easy to learn to cook | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
simple things and that the nicest thing you can possibly do | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
is get your friends and family round and cook for them. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
The organic movement does allow | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
middle class people to differentiate themselves | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
more...acutely from people | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
who haven't got the same level of education, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
the same level of taste. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
There sort of is a drive by middle class people, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
who are into food, to make it more special. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
And partly that's to do with just being snobbish | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
and partly it's to do with taste. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
I'm all for, if you like, the idea of really knowing where your food comes from and possibly paying | 0:43:07 | 0:43:13 | |
a little bit more for it and honouring it more and treating it better and throwing less away. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
But, of course, it is a class thing in the way that food has always been | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
or it's certainly an income thing. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
That if you have the resources, then you can make the choice. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:30 | |
But is all this angst killing the spirit of Christmas? | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
Are we losing our humour in the search for culinary perfection? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
What we should be mostly concerned about is nutritious fresh food | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
and it would be good if it came not from too far away because of the sustainability and food miles, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:49 | |
it would be good if it can support local farmers, but it's not sinful to buy a carrot from Tesco. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:55 | |
The more of, you know about where this came from and what's gone into it | 0:43:55 | 0:44:00 | |
and what it was eating in August, they sort of fetishise the items that you're going to eat. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
I'd hate to get to the stage where people are going to have shaken the hand of the uncle of the man, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
that grew the turkey. It's going to be that bad. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
That's the difficulty - that food has to do with fashion and class in Britain. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
It's time for the cake's unveiling. But more important, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
its crowning. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
When you see this, you realise there really is no turning back now. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
No Christmas dinner would be complete without a good desert. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
Whether it's the big daddy, the Christmas pud, a slice or two of cake or the glorious trifle, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
something sweet is the only way to complete the festive meal. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
We've been mad about puddings for years. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
A sweet tooth is something of a great British tradition. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
Christmas pudding divides the world, rather like Marmite, into those who love it and those who don't. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:04 | |
Puddings and sweets have always been important. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
In Elizabethan times, the sweetmeat or what was called banquet course | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
at Christmas was the moment in which the lady of the house could show off her skills in making delicacies. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:18 | |
It goes way back into the Middle Ages. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
That extraordinary and actually rather north African combination of meat, but we don't put meat into it | 0:45:21 | 0:45:27 | |
any more, but spices with sugar, with meat, with suet. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
By the 18th century, a great deal of patriotic pride surrounded our puddings. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:37 | |
Not for us, the fancy creations from across the Channel. No, thank you! | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
We demanded that ours were simply boiled and steamed. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
No frills, please, we're British! | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Boiled puddings are quintessentially British. They don't really appear in the same way in other European | 0:45:48 | 0:45:55 | |
culinary traditions, so it's not just about something | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
that we've eaten for hundreds of years, it's also something which is the backbone of Britain. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
There was culinary patriotism involved in Christmas. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
We felt that we did it better than anyone and we probably did. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
Puddings became a tool of propaganda, a device to thumb our noses to a world | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
that scoffed at our culinary ways. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
If you think of any Hogarth or Rollinson or any great engraving | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
from the 18th century, there are these steaming cannonballs of puddings and, in fact, British people | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
in Hogarth start to look like puddings | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
with their great stomachs and bulging buttocks and expanding waist. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
The pudding said something staunchly about middle class solidarity. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:42 | |
In this time of empire, patriotic pudding fever reached its boiling point. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
With a quarter of the globe turned pink, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
the world itself resembled the great British pudding, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
ripe and ready to be consumed for the national good. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Writers and artists drove the message home, emphasising the importance of pudding | 0:46:54 | 0:47:00 | |
as a national dish, something which could unite Britain and beyond. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
Mrs Beeton isn't the first person at all to suggest that puddings | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
or cakes are important at Christmas, but what she does is codify that. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
She's got three or four recipes for Christmas pudding. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
She's got a plain Christmas pudding in case you're feeling the pinch | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
and she's got a Christmas pudding, "very good", in case you're feeling optimistic. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
So within this very capacious book, there's different Christmas puddings | 0:47:23 | 0:47:28 | |
for the kind of person you are. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
And for Charles Dickens, the serving of pudding was the final act in a glorious Victorian melodrama. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:37 | |
"Hello, a great deal of steam. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
"The pudding was out of the copper. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
"A smell like washing day, that was the cloth. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
"A smell like an eating house and a pastry cook's next door | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
"to each other with a laundress's next door to that. That was the pudding." | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
Put the candles out! | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
It's a beautiful, beautiful pudding. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
"In half a minute, Mrs Cratchit entered. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
"Flushed but smiling proudly with the pudding like a speckled cannonball, so hard and firm, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:11 | |
"blazing in half and half a quart of ignited brandy and bedight with Christmas holly stuck into the top. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:19 | |
"Oh, a wonderful pudding!" | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
In this imperial age, every aspect of the nation could exemplify its power, even its Christmas pudding. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:29 | |
We, of course, you know, at the height of our imperial | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
arrogance did decide that nobody could make a pudding except for us. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
So iconic was the Christmas pudding that it was used in wartime to boost morale. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:42 | |
It was almost as if however bad Christmas is going to be, however wet | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
your boots, however filthy the death around you is, a Christmas pudding will link you back to your family. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:52 | |
It will also be the taste of home. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
And if pudding played its part on the front line, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
to folks back home it served an equally important role keeping spirits high. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
The ministry was so sensible. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
They didn't say you can't have Christmas pudding because there's a war on. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
They said, "Here you are, here is a Christmas pudding." | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
When you cooked them and they were black and looking rich, we all enjoyed them very much indeed. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:18 | |
The food we made was good. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
It was plain, it had to be because we hadn't the fat or the sugar or anything else | 0:49:20 | 0:49:26 | |
but it was very, very edible. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
After the war ended and rationing finally gave way to proper shopping in 1954, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:33 | |
Christmas pudding was back to its blazing former glory. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
You never ate it so good. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
I made in the BBC a Christmas cake, a proper Christmas cake, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
a proper Christmas pudding, proper mincemeat and beautiful mince pies. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:54 | |
I was so pleased with myself! | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
And the viewers wrote in, they had to put a caravan outside to deal with all the requests for the recipes. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:02 | |
Into a time of plenty, we have kept up with this old friend, loath ever to be parted. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:08 | |
In the Britain of today, over ten million Christmas puddings are sold in the shops every year. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
-Shall we see who's got the most then? -Mm. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
Find any? | 0:50:34 | 0:50:35 | |
No, nothing yet. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:36 | |
Let's see how lucky I am then. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Tastes really lovely, you can afford it and Dad likes it. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
-Any other reasons? -I've always bought their mincemeats. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
-Ah. -Everybody does, you know, love. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
..As much a part of Christmas as Robertson's mincemeat. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
So, a few top tips from our experts. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
My Christmas pudding is a relatively simple one and traditional one going back over the generations. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:13 | |
Flour, not much flour, and breadcrumbs. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Mine's very moist. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:18 | |
Mashed banana goes in mine. There'll be people who are horrified. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
And a whole grated apple, and I soak all the fruit in Theakston's Old Peculiar | 0:51:29 | 0:51:35 | |
for 24 hours before I mix it. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
I use melted butter now rather than suet. I like it better. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:50 | |
Everybody should do Christmas pudding. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
The most difficult thing is getting the stuff. You just mix it. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
-All aboard! -Chocks away! Cheers! -Cheers, darling, happy Christmas! | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
Christmas dinner is not only a big meal, it's a story of big numbers and serious money. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:25 | |
Did you know we consume 19,000 tonnes of turkey each Christmas? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:31 | |
We spend £42 million just on puddings. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
We eat 175 million mince pies. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
And we consume, on average, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
a gut-busting 7,000 calories eating Christmas dinner alone. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
Faced with all this, might we want to take the strain out of the big feast? | 0:52:49 | 0:52:54 | |
In a society where convenience is more valued that tradition itself, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
are we prepared any longer to put in the hours for our Christmas dinners? | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
Are we about to toy with the kind of microwaved Christmas imagined by novelist Tim Lott? | 0:53:02 | 0:53:08 | |
"Maureen regards the microwave anxiously. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
"It all seems perfectly straightforward. Too straightforward. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
"Tentatively, she rotates the circular plastic knob and it begins emitting a soft hum. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:21 | |
"Perhaps it will be OK. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
"Charlie enters the dining room carrying the anaemic-looking bird. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
"He sets it in the middle of the table." | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
In all the recent concern about food safety, a lot of attention has been | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
focused on microwave ovens. Are they safe? | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
"For the slicing, he has an electric carving knife that does much to drown out further conversation. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:42 | |
"Charlie feels confident about the bird despite its appearance. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
"They have followed the instructions exactly. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
"Robert takes a bite of the turkey first. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
"His expression freezes." | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
But the problem is they can also leave cold spots. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
"The strange thing is that alongside the heat there is cold. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
"It is both cooked and uncooked. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
" 'It's horrible,' mutters Maureen." | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
LOUD EXPLOSION | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
I remember my mother saying, "Do you think we'd actually manage to put it in | 0:54:11 | 0:54:16 | |
"the microwave this Christmas and I won't have to get up at four to cook it?" | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
But she never did. I think we all wanted it to be brown on the top | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
and by then we all knew that a microwave was unlikely to do that. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
In this disposable, throwaway world, might we want our turkey delivered in a packet ready to go? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:32 | |
I'm terrified that it'll get to the stage | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
where you don't even actually have to know how to cook a turkey or even a chicken. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
Everybody will get their portion, you just heat it in the microwave. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
I think that would be absolutely awful. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
I think it would take a lot to make me buy a ready Christmas dinner | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
in a foil pack, but I see there's a point for them. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
If you live alone and you have no family and you want to treat yourself, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
you're not going to go out and buy a turkey and roast it. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
And if you buy a good ready meal, I'm sure it will be delicious. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:11 | |
Christmas dinner has come a long way since the Victorians first served it up. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:26 | |
But our world is not one of Victorian values. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
Divorce rates are rising and we're all leading more separate lives. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
The idea of the family now is so different. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
So the idea of the nuclear family, the kind I come from... | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
I think one in three people now lives alone. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
There's nothing more sad than somebody having Christmas dinner | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
on their own in front of a telly watching old Only Fools And Horses or whatever. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
Blimey. Even he's had enough! | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
I think it would be very regrettable if Christmas lunch were to disappear. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:59 | |
It's communal, it's collective, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
it's a feast, it's a...fete. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:07 | |
Fabulous! | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
I would say that this is the British trying to pretend that society isn't breaking up. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:15 | |
That we still have a community, that we still all love each other, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:21 | |
we want to be together, and we're desperately trying to hold onto that against all the pressures | 0:56:21 | 0:56:27 | |
that blow us apart. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:28 | |
So maybe because of who we are now, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
what we have lost, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
the way we live and eat every other day of the year, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
perhaps because of this, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
we cherish the tradition of the great British Christmas dinner that much more. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:48 | |
Christmas dinner will be the only vestige remaining | 0:56:50 | 0:56:55 | |
of trad English cooking. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
You think it's been around forever and when people get to know that it wasn't... | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
I wouldn't tell people because I'd rather they thought it had always been there | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
and they had to keep doing it because I'd hate people to stop cooking it, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
but I think it will go on, actually. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:12 | |
I can't see this, I can't see this ending. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 |