Francis Bacon: A Brush with Violence


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Three figures, phallic necks.

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There's one with a sort of paw on what looks like

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a huge scrubbing brush,

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which is snarling.

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And they're baying their anger, their pain, their distrust of life.

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To the people who walked into the Lefevre Gallery that day...

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..that was a shock. I mean, they had never really seen anything like it.

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It was just after the war and people didn't want to be disturbed.

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They'd been deeply disturbed already.

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Something breaks in that painting,

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in English culture.

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It was as if art had become feral.

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Those things are all in the background, they all inform the work.

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But you make a mistake if you explain the paintings

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through the war. What Bacon did was something different.

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So many people of my generation,

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that's where they first saw an image by Francis Bacon.

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But nobody knew who Francis Bacon was.

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Just after the war, my mother had a house in South Kensington,

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and I was always watching what was going on outside.

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And I remember seeing somebody who was carrying a very large canvas.

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And I don't know why I felt it -

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"This guy has to be Francis Bacon."

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And he went into a house opposite my mother's house,

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I was totally fascinated by him.

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And we became friends.

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He was like no-one else in the world.

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He lived in a very grand studio.

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Everything was torn, everything was dirty, everything was wonderful.

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A lot of incredibly strong cocktails,

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so you got plastered pretty quick.

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And then Nanny would appear from time to time and say,

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"Would anybody like something to, you know, something to smoke?"

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And this didn't mean, you know, Player's cigarettes.

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MATCH STRIKES AND FLARES

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She was his childhood nanny.

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I think he adored her.

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She was like a mother to him.

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Of course, the whole story is... It's so comical, really.

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She slept on the kitchen table.

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She was totally blind.

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How on earth she cooked and how she knew what she was doing, I don't know.

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She organised the gambling parties that he gave,

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that's one of the ways he made money.

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After the war, the entire sort of bohemian London

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began to coalesce around the Gargoyle and then,

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of course, with the opening of The Colony Room by Muriel Belcher,

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that became the epicentre of the lives of most of the painters and,

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of course, Francis Bacon was part of that.

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I have no earthly idea when I first encountered Francis.

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I most remember him in The Colony,

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and Muriel said that I was the only person

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who was allowed in from the age of 12.

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Francis had an extraordinary capacity to take advantage of any situation

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in which he found himself

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and to turn it into something wonderful

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and magical.

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And so you were immediately...

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..enchanted by his presence.

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He was like a piece of electricity coming into the room.

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I mean, charisma poured out of him, you couldn't take your eyes off him,

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you know, he darted around like a bird, and these extraordinary eyes.

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Muriel offered him a £10 retainer, a week to bring in his friends,

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which he proceeded to do.

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TRANSLATION FROM FRENCH:

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Yes, this was the age of existentialism,

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this is the age when everybody thought that this could be the last,

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their last moments, so they were living in a very edgy kind of atmosphere.

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We do with our life what we can and then we die.

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What else can you... What else is there?

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And if somebody is very aware of that, perhaps...

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Perhaps it comes out in their work.

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I think he saw life as a risk.

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It also amused him, I think,

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the idea that chance played such a big role in everything.

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And he certainly applied that to painting.

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If anything ever does work, in my case...

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..well, chance and what I call accident takes over.

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Certainly, in his painting, I mean, he would...

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..gamble everything on the next brush stroke.

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That's always, always going to be exciting, to see somebody in that

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situation and, you know,

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it's like watching somebody walking the tightrope to see if they succeed or fail.

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For instance, that painting in the Museum of Modern Art,

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I first tried to do a gorilla in a cornfield.

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Then I tried to do a bird alighting.

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And then, gradually, all the marks I'd made suggested this other image,

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which is a totally accidental image.

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I'd never thought of doing an image like that ever in my life.

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I can remember, you know, really studying for a long time,

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the umbrella in the sides of beef.

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And I remember thinking, how's he made that umbrella so terrifying?

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It's just such an everyday object.

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You know, you get guttural feelings from paintings

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and emotional paintings, and it's just paint.

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But it's like it doesn't feel like paint, it feels much more violent.

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You know, it taps into something in your unconscious, which is dark and,

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you know, exciting.

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When I met him, I could not equate just the general sort of drunken foolery

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that went on, which I found hugely entertaining,

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with these twisted horrors.

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This is the great central enigma about Bacon.

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Where did the darkness come from?

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You see, I was born in Ireland, and I was brought up a rabid Protestant...

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..with no beliefs, of course!

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Neither my mother or father were Irish

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but, nevertheless, I was brought up in Kildare.

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My father was a trainer of race horses.

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In the last interview that Bacon ever did,

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he spoke of his childhood and

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said it was like something cold and something hard, like a block of ice.

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And he attributed that to his shyness, which came from being asthmatic,

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that he could not interact in the world in the same way that ordinary boys could.

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Imagine growing up in a particularly horsey outdoorsy world,

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and imagine that you have fragile lungs that are pulverised by any sort of dust

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and you basically had to gasp your way through life.

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This had an enormous influence on Bacon.

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In the paintings, I believe it does come across.

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It's as though the air has been pumped out, has been sucked out of the space,

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and the figures are there, up against the glass,

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almost grasping for breath.

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He was growing up in Ireland. By the age of 12,

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what do you do when you've begun to have homosexual instincts?

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It was a deep-seated, deep-rooted problem with his father.

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Bacon's father, Eddie, was a very difficult character.

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Francis Bacon disappointed him in a major way.

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It was a fairly traumatic childhood.

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His father got his stable boys to whip him,

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and I think that started one or two things off.

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He sometimes talked about it and he said, he said it to me privately...

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..that one of his...

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..difficult dynamics in his life was that he really rather hated his father

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but he found his father sexually attractive.

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Francis was a born masochist.

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It wasn't something that he took up later for kicks.

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Francis was through and through a masochist.

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More interesting, of course, is that he then went into the stables and

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had sexual relations with the grooms.

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And I think the buggering in the barn was a sort of important aspect

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of his background.

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It was a very odd sort of situation.

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And the father couldn't deal with it.

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So he wanted him out of the house...

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and try and get him straightened out.

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He went to...

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..an older man whom his family, I think, thought would be a good companion for him

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but who turned out to be bisexual.

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He told it without any sense of hurt but, in fact, I think he'd been deeply,

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deeply wounded by this,

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by this rejection.

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Berlin was huge to him,

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as it became to a whole generation of homosexuals around his age.

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He liked the fascination, the freedom, the absolute lack of...

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..authority, in a way, which was hugely influential on him.

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Francis experienced Berlin whilst at its most famously debauched...

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..where there were these crazy bars and sadism was the flavour of the period.

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People have attempted to explain Francis Bacon as a revenge motif against his father.

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Once he left Berlin, where was his natural proclivity?

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It was France.

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He saw this as the Olympus of the art world, and Francis Bacon fell in

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love with Paris and Parisian art from his first trip there in 1928.

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And that was a constant throughout his entire life.

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I stayed for a short time in Paris and it was about that time,

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at Rosenberg's, I saw an exhibition of Picasso.

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And I think, at that moment, I thought, "Well, I will try and paint, too."

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Francis Bacon's first career is a bit obscured because what he did in

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Paris in his famous trip, once he left Berlin, has been a subject of much mystery.

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He did have some connections into the design world of Paris,

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we know for sure.

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By the time he came to London, a little-known fact that we've discovered,

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he established himself in deepest Chelsea and was, for three or four years,

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part of a very important design and interior-decorating world.

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He kept quiet about all that, he never mentioned it.

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Decoration was one of the foulest words in his vocabulary after that.

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Something that was decorative, you know, particularly in art,

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was like non-existent.

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He sensed, quite early on, that he wanted more than that.

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Obviously, he had to make his way, you know?

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And of course, he made nothing from the painting but the painting soon

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became the obsessive thing.

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You know, he's almost, like, egging himself on to be confident enough to paint.

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And I love those early years' paintings.

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I have the 1933 early Crucifixion, the one like the Picasso Bathers.

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You know, I can't believe that I own it now.

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The first 15, 20 years of his life and career,

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so little of it survives.

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I mean, the ratio's about one per year.

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Between 1936 and 1944, there's an eight-year gap,

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we have no works at all.

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Now, he wasn't not painting.

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But Roy De Maistre, an artist who was extremely fond of Bacon,

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he painted a corner of Bacon's painting studio and you see paintings

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stacked up in the corner...the corners of the room,

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with their faces showing.

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We can see what he was painting.

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They were all destroyed,

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all these things, we have these tantalising glimpses of in another artist's work.

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There's the legend that grew up around this, that Bacon himself fostered,

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was that he then just walked away from the easel

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and only to re-emerge, of course, in the mid-40s with his great Three Studies.

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Um, this is not true.

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One thing I feel certain about is that he really, really was painting all the time.

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He desperately wanted to be, by then, a great artist.

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He didn't want to be mediocre.

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There are many strains in his earlier painting

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that you can trace

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in the development and evolution of the look that appeared

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in Three Studies.

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About 1943-44, it was then that I really started to paint.

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When at Lefevre we had that first exhibition

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with Henry Moore, Graham Sutherland,

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and it was then that I showed those

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Three Studies For Figures At The Base Of A Crucifixion,

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which... People were very, very violently against those things.

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One of the usual bitchy critics, to me, said,

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"Why bother to do things like that when it's already been done by Picasso?"

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It was Graham Sutherland, I think, who recommended him to Erica Brausen,

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who was one of the brightest contemporary art dealers of the time,

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and when she saw his work she saw the point of it right away.

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She sold his painting 1946 to MoMA

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and that really was a very, very signal moment for Francis.

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He was always needing money to waste, you know, to gamble away.

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He was nothing but trouble to her.

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She just tolerated it and helped him as best she could.

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She was nurturing, she was devoted to him.

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She was a woman who really looked after him.

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And he went to Monaco,

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and it was the place where English people of his kind went

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and, if you wanted to gamble, it was the most glamorous place to go, still, to gamble.

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You could gamble in London, for goodness' sake, to some extent.

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But this was much more glamorous and much more congenial,

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in many other ways.

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I mean, it wasn't just Bacon who went to Monaco,

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there was this bizarre, probably ghastly, old nanny,

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but the one who he really loved.

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He was terrible about getting paintings in on time.

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Brausen was always writing Bacon and saying, you know,

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"Francis, please...

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"We have a show planned for next December. How's it going?"

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And three months later, nothing.

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And his typical pattern was that he would destroy all his work

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until pretty near to a show when he would have to

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produce some paintings, finally.

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He was there most of the time between 1946-49, even into early 1950,

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and produced almost nothing.

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He'd been rethinking what he must do in his art.

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He knew he must say something.

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It was no use being derivative of Picasso.

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And he knew, in fact, his subject must be the human body

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and that it must come from his own life and his own experience.

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Part of what he had to express needed a new way of painting.

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The heads are astonishing.

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They're so close to the animal.

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The animal in the man.

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In those images that Bacon did,

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it's as if you can feel the breath of

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the animal on your neck.

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Or as if you're going into some dark cave

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and you smell the animal before you see it.

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I mean, it's so visceral.

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The animal is so close.

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The fact that Francis Bacon had no formal training

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probably freed him in a way that other people were not as free.

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He was not part of any movement.

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Francis Bacon was an outlier in a most interesting way.

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I think he probably did go to one or two classes and things like that.

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He certainly never mentioned that afterwards,

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and he picked up quite a lot from painter friends.

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Denis and Francis Bacon came from a similar background.

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Both were untrained as artists.

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So this was a link, both were self-taught.

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Francis Bacon was inevitably

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the main event in Denis's life.

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Dickie and Denis were the main event in each other's lives.

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Richard Chopping, known as Dickie, was his partner.

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Bacon could have actually been a hell of a lot of trouble

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to the relationship but he wasn't,

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and Denis would put up with anything.

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Francis would equally put up with anything that Denis threw at him.

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And between them, this relationship went like that for many, many years.

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When they were partying and drinking together in Soho,

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they would come and drag me out,

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with them usually six bottles of champagne ahead of me.

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And it would end up with punching in the face,

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noses being broken in galleries,

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there were plates broken on people's heads.

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Turned out, banned from places, the stories just go on and on and on.

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Do you know, I don't care if I fuck up the whole of the film,

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but you can never say things as clearly in French,

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-as you say it in English.

-Yes, of course he can.

-Of course you can't.

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Go away, darling. Avec Rembrandt, avec Michel-Ange.

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You know, you're going to be cheapened.

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-OK.

-Very.

-I'll be cheapened.

-Very.

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There were a lot of things that they were using

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as common subject matter.

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They both had boxing magazines.

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They had magazines of runners.

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They used Eadweard Muybridge's work.

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Denis did introduce Francis to Muybridge, arguably the most, with Picasso,

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the most important influence on his work.

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It's a very interesting work.

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And the images were tremendously suggestive to me of ways I could use the human body.

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Francis drew badly and was very conscious of it.

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And I think facing up to the fact that he had never been taught drawing...

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And he used Muybridge's amazing photographs of athletes in weird positions

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again and again,

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because there the limbs were dead accurate and he could use them,

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as it were, as sketches for a whole series of paintings...

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though, above all, the painting known as The Buggers.

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I used to go and visit Lucien Freud and Caroline Blackwood in their house.

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They had the painting which they always called The Buggers,

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which was, is, I think, officially called The Wrestlers.

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I just simply thought it was a wonderful painting.

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I think, that when you're very young, you don't have preconceived

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notions of what is shocking.

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You just look at things to see if they are beautiful.

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There is no doubt that this is Bacon

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and the most important lover in his life.

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This is their coupling.

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This is their moment of greatest intensity.

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And this is the trigger, really, of Bacon's greatest images.

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It's where everything comes together.

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Francis's first major lover was Peter Lacy.

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He had been a Spitfire pilot.

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Francis was wildly in love.

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Bacon found him very charming.

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He said he was... He was amusing.

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And he played the piano.

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He sang.

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And Bacon saw him as somebody quite extraordinary.

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Other people didn't have this very enamoured view of Peter Lacy.

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I remember going to a gay bar,

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one evening, and Peter Lacy was there.

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He was very, sort of, soberly dressed, very straightforward.

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But he turned out to be, in fact, one of the most sadistic people...

0:23:270:23:34

..I've ever come across.

0:23:350:23:37

During the war, his nervous system was...was, basically, shot

0:23:400:23:45

and he could become very violent.

0:23:450:23:48

Francis was landed with a...

0:23:480:23:51

..sadist

0:23:520:23:53

who was going to thrash him to bits

0:23:530:23:57

and he hadn't got Nanny to fall back on.

0:23:570:24:00

When Nanny died - was it 1951? - he was heartbroken.

0:24:010:24:06

She was his adviser, she ran his life

0:24:060:24:10

and he had to depend on himself.

0:24:100:24:14

They had a turbulent relationship.

0:24:370:24:40

Lacy regularly beat Bacon up

0:24:400:24:43

and that was something that Bacon actively encouraged and enjoyed.

0:24:430:24:47

Peter had a house in the country and Francis went there one weekend.

0:24:520:24:57

God knows what he'd done to him already but Peter Lacy simply threw him

0:24:590:25:04

through a plate-glass window

0:25:040:25:08

on the second floor, onto the garden at the back of the house.

0:25:080:25:13

And Francis had terrible damage to one eye and to his face and so on.

0:25:130:25:18

But this made him love Peter Lacy more, I think.

0:25:180:25:22

And he turned these horrible, terrible things into magic,

0:25:230:25:30

into great paintings.

0:25:300:25:32

Peter himself was very often the subject of any male figure

0:25:350:25:39

in the painting. He's always there.

0:25:390:25:42

And I think he stirred the very depths of Bacon's being.

0:25:420:25:47

He managed to create these very strange, eerie images,

0:25:470:25:53

against a dark blue background.

0:25:530:25:56

Very ghostly.

0:25:560:25:58

Peter Lacy's...

0:26:020:26:03

..power over Francis, sadistic power over Francis...

0:26:050:26:09

And I hope it won't shock people - it was a very positive one.

0:26:100:26:14

It was regarded as a rather dirty habit,

0:26:170:26:21

to go and look at the paintings of Bacon,

0:26:210:26:23

because the whole fashion was abstract expressionism

0:26:230:26:27

and everything American.

0:26:270:26:29

Here was this man actually painting the human figure...

0:26:290:26:33

..in this quite shocking way, at that time.

0:26:340:26:39

Bacon had a slowly growing reputation,

0:26:400:26:44

but he was an extremely difficult artist.

0:26:440:26:48

So it took a great deal of time

0:26:480:26:51

for Bacon's imagery to become popular.

0:26:510:26:54

But bit by bit, exhibition by exhibition,

0:26:540:26:57

collector by collector,

0:26:570:27:00

Bacon's reputation was being made.

0:27:000:27:02

Peter Lacy said at this particular point, "You can come and live with me."

0:27:050:27:09

And Bacon said, "Well, what does living with you mean?"

0:27:090:27:13

And Lacy said, "Well, I could chain you to the wall."

0:27:130:27:18

And Bacon said, "Well, the thing is, I did terribly want to paint."

0:27:180:27:23

And so because of that, Lacy started visiting Tangier.

0:27:260:27:29

By that time, the relationship had broken down.

0:27:330:27:36

Bacon felt he needed to go to another stage.

0:27:380:27:41

He wanted to go to the very top.

0:27:410:27:44

And there was a powerful and relatively new gallery

0:27:440:27:48

called Marlborough Fine Art.

0:27:480:27:50

Bacon had been considering leaving Erica and the Hanover Gallery for some time.

0:27:510:27:56

Because he was quite overwhelmed by debts.

0:27:560:27:58

The Marlborough Gallery, for example, had deeper pockets,

0:27:580:28:01

could pay a kind of salary.

0:28:010:28:03

They were like a cash flow for him.

0:28:030:28:05

I remember going in with him to pick up a wad of cash

0:28:050:28:09

so that he could go on, sort of, inviting everybody in sight

0:28:090:28:12

to champagne and dinner afterwards and then go and play the tables.

0:28:120:28:16

And the great attraction of the time for the Marlborough was what?

0:28:170:28:21

Well, they've got,

0:28:210:28:23

as they have galleries all over the world,

0:28:230:28:25

perhaps they thought they could do something with me.

0:28:250:28:28

Frank Lloyd, the owner, partner of Marlborough...

0:28:300:28:34

realised that, I think, that Francis was going to be the golden goose,

0:28:340:28:38

if they...

0:28:380:28:40

..marketed properly.

0:28:410:28:42

He did need a lot of managing.

0:28:420:28:45

And the only release for the paintings came through Valerie.

0:28:450:28:50

She was my direct boss.

0:28:500:28:52

Francis Bacon's life at Marlborough revolved to a huge extent

0:28:520:28:56

around Valerie Beston, or as he called her,

0:28:560:28:58

Valerie from the Gallery.

0:28:580:29:00

She was always there for him.

0:29:000:29:02

It was as if Bacon was the love of her life.

0:29:020:29:05

And she was, you know, completely 100% devoted,

0:29:050:29:09

in the same way that Erica Brausen had been initially in his career.

0:29:090:29:13

I mean, they were saying to Bacon,

0:29:130:29:14

we will give you exhibitions at the Tate,

0:29:140:29:17

and they absolutely delivered on their promises.

0:29:170:29:20

You know, within three years he'd got the first Tate retrospective.

0:29:200:29:24

There were many critics who still did not like Bacon's work.

0:29:300:29:34

The Tate retrospective in 1962, I think was very important for him.

0:29:340:29:39

At that stage Peter Lacy was in Morocco.

0:29:390:29:43

A lot of people of that time were saying that

0:29:430:29:45

he was just, like, this very sad figure playing away at the piano,

0:29:450:29:48

almost like paying off his alcoholic debts.

0:29:480:29:51

Francis writes to Denis, saying,

0:29:510:29:53

"I've heard that he's falling to pieces.

0:29:530:29:55

"Can you find out for me?

0:29:550:29:57

"I really need to know, I can't concentrate on anything."

0:29:570:29:59

Bacon is

0:30:000:30:02

feeling pity for Peter.

0:30:020:30:05

"I'm totally upset over Peter.

0:30:050:30:08

"I can't bear to see anyone suffer because of me."

0:30:080:30:11

I think Bacon created best when he was himself most disturbed,

0:30:120:30:18

most at sea.

0:30:180:30:20

Francis used to say, "I've used everybody in my life."

0:30:230:30:27

He does go into a kind of crisis.

0:30:300:30:32

That may have been what was happening with Bacon at that time.

0:30:320:30:35

I think that was to do with his inner need to renew his art,

0:30:350:30:40

to not repeat himself, to stretch.

0:30:400:30:44

He did a painting right before the 1962 Tate exhibition called,

0:30:480:30:51

I believe it was called Three Studies for a Crucifixion.

0:30:510:30:55

It's an indication of where he wants to go.

0:30:550:30:59

It's a blood-red and black triptych.

0:31:000:31:03

In the left-hand panel there is a paternal figure,

0:31:050:31:09

more or less telling a smaller figure to go.

0:31:090:31:15

I've always thought of that as Bacon being thrown out of the house.

0:31:170:31:20

In the middle there is a scene,

0:31:220:31:24

a really bloody mangled scene on a bed.

0:31:240:31:28

It's the most extreme expression of the horror he felt about his life,

0:31:290:31:33

I think, and what it felt to be...

0:31:330:31:34

..Francis Bacon and all the horrors he'd witnessed.

0:31:350:31:38

And he did describe the central panel

0:31:380:31:41

as someone shot to pieces on a bed.

0:31:410:31:44

And that's not normal language, not just from him,

0:31:440:31:47

but for a Bacon painting.

0:31:470:31:48

And in this case, well, it does look like someone shot to pieces on a bed.

0:31:480:31:52

It looks like a murder has taken place.

0:31:520:31:55

He would almost empty himself of his darkest,

0:31:560:32:01

bitterest thoughts on canvas and be purified.

0:32:010:32:06

But of course he was Jekyll and Hyde

0:32:070:32:10

and so the two sides were there in the man.

0:32:100:32:14

I remember going to the big '62 retrospective at the Tate...

0:32:170:32:20

..and I had a very nice girlfriend

0:32:220:32:24

who was vegetarian, though she converted,

0:32:240:32:28

under my tutelage, to meat, but she didn't convert to Bacon.

0:32:280:32:31

I think that was when he really came out as a superstar,

0:32:330:32:36

in Britain anyway.

0:32:360:32:38

And I think he saw, this was a perfect moment for him to shine and,

0:32:380:32:42

my God, shine he did.

0:32:420:32:44

But amongst the telegrams of congratulation,

0:32:490:32:52

he got one from Tangier saying

0:32:520:32:55

that his great love, Peter Lacy, had just died.

0:32:550:32:59

Bacon was convinced it was a suicide.

0:33:010:33:04

He talked about it as a suicide.

0:33:040:33:06

And that Peter almost deliberately aimed for it to happen

0:33:070:33:12

on the day his show opened.

0:33:120:33:15

The painting of where Peter Lacy is buried was an enormously...

0:33:180:33:24

enormously powerful painting, full of, you can't call it love exactly,

0:33:240:33:29

but full of...

0:33:290:33:31

..sort of, dark sexual obsession.

0:33:320:33:35

The violence in Bacon's pictures calls forth equally violent reactions.

0:33:420:33:47

David Sylvester was one of the first critics

0:33:490:33:51

to recognise Bacon as an important artist.

0:33:510:33:54

Actually in your work, as a whole,

0:33:540:33:55

there are relatively few paintings that

0:33:550:33:57

have ostensible subjects which might be called horrific.

0:33:570:34:01

And most of them are fairly straight subjects,

0:34:020:34:05

figures seated in rooms and so on.

0:34:050:34:07

And yet, people have a sense that your work as a whole is horrific.

0:34:070:34:11

David Sylvester was enormously important

0:34:110:34:14

in that he was the PR man for Francis.

0:34:140:34:17

And he did a damned good job.

0:34:170:34:20

Because he was widely listened to.

0:34:200:34:22

He was never off the BBC, where he could,

0:34:220:34:24

he could hear the sound of his own voice.

0:34:240:34:27

And he was...

0:34:270:34:28

..perfect for Francis.

0:34:300:34:31

I must have another drink.

0:34:310:34:34

We might rest for a minute.

0:34:350:34:37

Can we rest for a moment, or not, or must it go on?

0:34:370:34:40

Bacon and Sylvester together created a manifesto

0:34:440:34:48

of his inner life as an artist.

0:34:480:34:51

Those interviews had a very big impact on many,

0:34:520:34:54

especially young artists.

0:34:540:34:56

When I was a student I completely devoured the David Sylvester interviews.

0:34:580:35:01

It's like I read that constantly, over and over and over again.

0:35:010:35:04

I think that was one of the greatest things about Bacon,

0:35:040:35:06

was those interviews. Because he...

0:35:060:35:08

It was just a new way of being interviewed,

0:35:080:35:10

and it was kind of so fresh and exciting and it was like,

0:35:100:35:13

you know, playful.

0:35:130:35:14

It was like, you know, in denial.

0:35:140:35:16

It just made you think differently about the paintings.

0:35:160:35:18

He was nothing if not totally controlling

0:35:180:35:22

of the people around him and the

0:35:220:35:25

way his work was perceived.

0:35:250:35:28

But I think Bacon the public persona

0:35:280:35:32

was, to some extent, a way of shielding his images.

0:35:320:35:38

He was just, you know, finding a way to sort of avoid the questions,

0:35:380:35:41

to keep the painting fresh, to keep you looking at the painting,

0:35:410:35:44

to never give you answers.

0:35:440:35:45

Francis attracted a certain amount of awe.

0:35:450:35:48

He was quite a frightening fellow, or had been in his prime.

0:35:480:35:52

And also a certain amount of oiling up to.

0:35:520:35:54

So I think the cult, or the fame, was built up in the '60s.

0:35:540:35:59

He's got his new studio in Reece Mews,

0:36:050:36:07

I think it was very important to him.

0:36:070:36:09

He felt he'd got his own space,

0:36:090:36:11

he could really get to work and do what he wanted to say powerfully.

0:36:110:36:15

We are in a wonderful little secret mews

0:36:170:36:20

just off of South Ken, called Reece Mews.

0:36:200:36:24

I first came to know it when I met Lionel Bart.

0:36:240:36:27

His neighbour turned out to be Francis Bacon.

0:36:270:36:33

He was very funny.

0:36:330:36:35

He was very witty. He was very clever.

0:36:350:36:38

But there was a kind of an underlying kind of melancholy about him.

0:36:380:36:42

But Lionel Bart told me that in his kitchen there were loads of

0:36:420:36:46

photographs, and he'd noticed there were rather a lot of me, you know.

0:36:460:36:52

And Lionel said to him,

0:36:520:36:54

"Oh, you think... You know, you like Terence?"

0:36:540:36:58

And Francis said,

0:36:580:37:02

"God, the two most handsomest men in the world

0:37:020:37:06

"are Terence Stamp and Colonel Gaddafi!"

0:37:060:37:10

I thought, "Yeah, Colonel Gaddafi would give him a good hiding," you know?

0:37:100:37:13

HE LAUGHS

0:37:130:37:15

I'd just knock on his door if I was passing and if he would open the door,

0:37:150:37:20

sometimes he'd invite me in, sometimes he wouldn't.

0:37:200:37:23

And sometimes when he invited me in I realised he was the middle of something.

0:37:230:37:28

It struck me that it was a very private thing that was happening.

0:37:280:37:32

And...he had to devote himself completely to it.

0:37:320:37:37

As an artist, Bacon was always trying to do it a bit better, you know?

0:37:420:37:47

You know, you've never arrived,

0:37:470:37:49

there wouldn't be much point if you'd arrived.

0:37:490:37:51

You know, he would have stopped painting in 1962,

0:37:510:37:54

or something, if he was satisfied.

0:37:540:37:57

How are you going to trap reality?

0:37:570:38:01

How are you going to trap appearance

0:38:010:38:02

without making an illustration of it?

0:38:020:38:05

And that is one of the great fights and one of the great excitements

0:38:050:38:09

of being, of being a figurative artist today.

0:38:090:38:12

It was a moment that he was beginning to look to

0:38:130:38:17

the people that he was friends with,

0:38:170:38:21

beginning to think about painting the people

0:38:210:38:24

he felt he knew inside out.

0:38:240:38:26

I mean, he had a great love of people.

0:38:260:38:29

And a vulnerability to them.

0:38:300:38:32

The artist doesn't choose the subject,

0:38:320:38:35

the subject chooses the artist.

0:38:350:38:38

But there was his subject.

0:38:380:38:40

I only am able to paint people or portraits of people that I know very well

0:38:400:38:46

and I've looked at a great deal.

0:38:460:38:48

And that I have analysed, and know the structure of their face.

0:38:480:38:54

I find that the person there inhibits me.

0:38:540:38:58

And then I use... I look at photographs.

0:38:580:39:01

So the photographs and everything get trodden on,

0:39:010:39:03

they get even changed into other things.

0:39:030:39:06

And those often are in themselves extremely interesting.

0:39:060:39:11

The presence of the person in a portrait

0:39:130:39:16

is so fully there because he managed to empty himself

0:39:160:39:19

of everything, so that that person could come

0:39:190:39:22

through him and onto the canvas.

0:39:220:39:25

Of course men were a great subject for him, and the male body.

0:39:250:39:29

Women were also extremely important to Bacon,

0:39:290:39:32

both personally and in terms of his art.

0:39:320:39:35

He had a need for family and he sort of put a lot of women into that role.

0:39:350:39:41

And he had a number of those throughout his life.

0:39:410:39:43

IN FRENCH:

0:39:460:39:49

You look at the women he chose to paint,

0:40:100:40:13

they have very strong characteristics in common.

0:40:130:40:18

Muriel had a very strong visage

0:40:180:40:20

that was almost imperial,

0:40:200:40:22

and it was easy for him, in a sense,

0:40:220:40:25

to convey exactly that

0:40:250:40:26

strength of character that she had.

0:40:260:40:29

Isabel Rawsthrone was another,

0:40:290:40:33

a woman of almost staggering physical presence.

0:40:330:40:37

And Henrietta Moraes, who was curvaceous,

0:40:370:40:40

but she was also very, very strong.

0:40:400:40:43

I first met Henrietta Moraes across a big lunch table

0:40:430:40:50

and it was like being opposite a Bacon painting.

0:40:500:40:55

I mean, it was almost as if she wasn't real

0:40:550:40:58

because of his portraits of Henrietta.

0:40:580:41:02

Henrietta is one of the most interesting of the Soho characters.

0:41:060:41:10

She, like many others,

0:41:100:41:12

could not wait to get away from her convent past

0:41:120:41:14

and get into the life of Soho.

0:41:140:41:17

Hen? She was amazing,

0:41:170:41:20

she was one of the most wonderful people I've ever known.

0:41:200:41:23

No wonder Francis adored her, you know?

0:41:250:41:29

And Francis understood, you know.

0:41:290:41:32

He was Irish, he understood how hard it is

0:41:320:41:37

if you've been through that terrible sort of Catholicism thing.

0:41:370:41:42

How dreadfully hard it is to break out of it and get free.

0:41:420:41:48

He was never burdened by that, was he? He was never burdened by that guilt?

0:41:480:41:52

Well, if he was, it was... I think he was a bit.

0:41:520:41:55

Actually, I'm sorry, but I think he was.

0:41:550:41:58

Henrietta always said to me,

0:41:590:42:02

"Ah, yes, perhaps he doth protest too much."

0:42:020:42:06

I think he painted Henrietta 15 times.

0:42:070:42:09

I mean, his work can be seen as a search for God.

0:42:090:42:14

Although he would probably certainly deny it.

0:42:140:42:18

His sort of frustration, if you like, with not finding God.

0:42:180:42:25

'When you paint anything, you ask the same...'

0:42:250:42:27

You are also painting not only the subject,

0:42:270:42:31

but you are painting yourself

0:42:310:42:33

as well as, as the object that you're trying to record.

0:42:330:42:37

One time she didn't like,

0:42:450:42:47

was there was one of the pictures where he had a hypodermic in her arm.

0:42:470:42:53

-It was a hypodermic syringe.

-BACON:

-It was a hypodermic syringe.

0:42:530:42:56

But I wanted something to nail the image, the figure, as it were,

0:42:580:43:03

to the...to the bed.

0:43:030:43:04

And it looked more logical with a hypodermic syringe.

0:43:040:43:09

I couldn't put a nail through their arm,

0:43:090:43:12

so it was much easier to put a hypodermic syringe.

0:43:120:43:15

But it wasn't an attempt suggest that the person was a drug addict?

0:43:150:43:18

I can see what Francis was getting at,

0:43:210:43:24

but I can also see that Henrietta didn't want that.

0:43:240:43:28

Henrietta herself later, looking back at it said, you know, in effect,

0:43:300:43:35

"Oh, my God, who could have known? This is prescience,

0:43:350:43:39

"and it's foreshadowing what was going to happen to my life that was to come,"

0:43:390:43:43

which was indeed much more druggy than, you know,

0:43:430:43:46

Francis Bacon could have anticipated at the time he'd painted it.

0:43:460:43:50

You know, we weren't really in the same crowd.

0:43:500:43:54

I was much younger.

0:43:540:43:57

And I was smoking hash and taking LSD and Francis was a drinker.

0:43:570:44:04

But then, once I had left Mick and my life kind of fell apart, really,

0:44:040:44:12

and I was living on a wall in St Anne's Court, on heroin.

0:44:120:44:19

So I didn't feel the cold.

0:44:190:44:23

And I also had, but I didn't know it, anorexia.

0:44:230:44:27

And I must have been on Francis's route from the French

0:44:270:44:33

to Wheeler's or something like that.

0:44:330:44:36

And not all the time, but every now and again

0:44:360:44:40

Francis would go past my wall and sort of pick me up

0:44:400:44:44

and take me to Wheeler's and feed me.

0:44:440:44:48

And the most wonderful thing about it, apart from the food, of course,

0:44:480:44:55

was that he never commented or judged

0:44:550:44:59

or said anything about my strange life, you know?

0:44:590:45:05

Me, at 22, living on a wall in Soho,

0:45:050:45:10

with the meths drinkers and all that, you know?

0:45:100:45:14

He never made any judgment or said a word.

0:45:140:45:18

We had a wonderful time, we talked about absolutely everything.

0:45:180:45:23

And that's when I told him about my great-great-uncle Leopold,

0:45:230:45:28

which, of course, he knew all about,

0:45:280:45:31

and we discussed de Sade and masochism

0:45:310:45:36

and lots of very interesting things

0:45:360:45:39

that I didn't realise till much later

0:45:390:45:43

how interesting they were to Francis, of course.

0:45:430:45:47

But I guessed something was up.

0:45:490:45:51

He was obsessed by sex.

0:45:560:45:58

He was plugged into all sorts of different things

0:46:000:46:04

that most people aren't aware of.

0:46:040:46:08

When we were out, at certain moments he'd sort of almost

0:46:100:46:13

walk through a wall into a different world.

0:46:130:46:17

And disappear.

0:46:170:46:19

And what happened then, I don't know.

0:46:190:46:21

The next day he'd reappear in a damaged state, you know,

0:46:390:46:43

barely able to walk or turn his head.

0:46:430:46:46

And there was no point in sort of saying, "Well, what happened, Francis?"

0:46:460:46:51

Because he'd, at best, he'd just, you know,

0:46:510:46:55

he'd just fix you with a sort of basilisk stare and say, "What do you mean?"

0:46:550:47:00

I was fast asleep one night when the phone went and Valerie Beston said,

0:47:070:47:12

"Paul, quickly, quickly, you've got to come to Reece Mews."

0:47:120:47:15

I've got there and he had

0:47:150:47:18

a huge injury, right the way across

0:47:180:47:22

from his left eye right the way across,

0:47:220:47:25

right round the right eye.

0:47:250:47:27

All the skin had been broken and he was in a terrible mess.

0:47:270:47:31

And I said, "Francis, you need a plastic surgeon."

0:47:310:47:35

"No," he said, "you sew me up now."

0:47:350:47:38

I said, "I'll put some local anaesthetic in."

0:47:380:47:40

He said, "No, I don't want any local anaesthetic."

0:47:400:47:43

That's the only time I realised that he quite enjoyed being hurt.

0:47:430:47:49

Francis liked the criminal side of London, you know?

0:47:490:47:52

He liked the kind of...

0:47:520:47:55

sordidness of London,

0:47:550:47:58

all that kind of East End dross

0:47:580:48:01

and knowing all those kind of people.

0:48:010:48:04

Or wanting to know all those kind of people.

0:48:060:48:08

George Dyer came on the scene as this

0:48:120:48:16

tough, well-built muscular boxer-like East End thug.

0:48:160:48:22

And I think through George he, you know, was able...

0:48:220:48:25

George and George's family, through all that,

0:48:250:48:29

he got to know, you know, quite a lot of bad boys,

0:48:290:48:32

including the Krays.

0:48:320:48:34

Who did come knocking on his door. Cos they wanted a painting.

0:48:340:48:38

I like painting good-looking people.

0:48:390:48:42

Because I like their bone structure.

0:48:420:48:44

I loathe my own.

0:48:440:48:46

But little by little it became apparent

0:48:480:48:51

that however sort of virile

0:48:510:48:52

and thug-like he looked, he was actually a very nice, lost young man.

0:48:520:48:59

George was obviously rather reticent with the whip.

0:49:010:49:04

So, little by little,

0:49:040:49:06

Francis became disabused because George had been, in that sense, a disappointment.

0:49:060:49:13

He was a kind of very feeble East End thug,

0:49:130:49:15

and he liked children and animals and cuddling.

0:49:150:49:18

Bacon said, "Oh, I hate the billing and cooing of sex. I just like the sex."

0:49:180:49:22

And he wanted George to rape him and George wanted to cuddle.

0:49:220:49:25

Francis confided just about everything to do with his relationship with George.

0:49:270:49:32

And it seemed that the sexual relationship had a real downturn.

0:49:320:49:37

George was suffering from erectile dysfunction.

0:49:380:49:41

It seems to me that Francis had emasculated George,

0:49:430:49:47

he found what he saw as the typical rough East Ender that he longed

0:49:470:49:53

to find, and then he did that job of emasculating him.

0:49:530:49:57

Francis did his best to make George Dyer

0:49:580:50:01

into something. And I think he did that on canvas.

0:50:010:50:05

Bacon was violent in the way he painted,

0:50:070:50:11

he was sadistic in the way he took apart George

0:50:110:50:15

with missing ears and missing jaws

0:50:150:50:18

and missing eyes, missing everything, really.

0:50:180:50:21

George was a bit appalled by the whole thing.

0:50:220:50:26

He saw all of these rich people standing around sort of, you know,

0:50:260:50:29

in this smart gallery.

0:50:290:50:33

He said to me, you know, "I think they're 'orrible.

0:50:330:50:36

"They're really 'orrible."

0:50:360:50:39

He said, "And he thinks I look like that!"

0:50:390:50:41

George knew all the prices for the pictures.

0:50:440:50:46

And he said, "And these people go and pay fucking thousands of pounds for 'em."

0:50:460:50:53

I mean, he portrays him as a kind of idiot.

0:50:550:50:57

He has things with what looks almost like

0:50:570:50:59

a nappy on his head or something.

0:50:590:51:02

And dressed as a baby.

0:51:020:51:04

I mean, need I say more?

0:51:040:51:06

There were certainly moments when things were firing up between them.

0:51:130:51:20

They had lovers' tiffs.

0:51:200:51:22

The one time when Francis phoned me and said, "You have to come round,

0:51:220:51:27

"you have to come round right away because George has gone berserk

0:51:270:51:30

"and all my suits are in the bath and he's poured paint all over them

0:51:300:51:33

"and he's trampling up and down."

0:51:330:51:35

And I went round.

0:51:350:51:37

And I couldn't get in because the front door was barred.

0:51:370:51:42

So I had to back the vehicle up,

0:51:420:51:44

get up onto the roof and go through the window where I was nearly

0:51:440:51:49

throttled by George until he realised who it was.

0:51:490:51:52

And he had, in fact,

0:51:520:51:54

thrown two thirds of the furniture down the staircase.

0:51:540:51:58

Dyer is fighting, in a way...

0:52:000:52:03

He's just going downhill, downhill, downhill,

0:52:030:52:06

it must have been terrible to watch.

0:52:060:52:07

So it's almost like a desperate attempt to get back in with Bacon

0:52:070:52:10

and show Bacon that he is still a man.

0:52:100:52:13

Francis was painting fewer pictures of George.

0:52:130:52:17

He was weary of him, I think.

0:52:170:52:18

Weary of his problems, of his drinking, of his carousing,

0:52:180:52:22

of his unhappiness, perhaps.

0:52:220:52:25

His better judgment told him that he needed to be shot of Dyer.

0:52:250:52:28

Bacon began moving away from George.

0:52:280:52:30

He looked more to Paris, at a time when other British artists were

0:52:330:52:37

resolutely not looking to Paris.

0:52:370:52:40

I think Bacon's interest in France goes all the way back to 1928,

0:52:410:52:47

on his first trip there.

0:52:470:52:49

IN FRENCH:

0:52:500:52:53

In 1971, getting a show at the Grand Palais

0:53:180:53:21

was the great moment of his life.

0:53:210:53:24

It was the turning point.

0:53:240:53:26

Huge. The first English artist to be offered the Grand Palais.

0:53:260:53:30

So, really, really big time.

0:53:300:53:33

It was very important this went well.

0:53:330:53:35

I understand that the British embassy were very worried in case

0:53:350:53:39

a typical Bacon scene erupted and it was, you know,

0:53:390:53:41

something terrible happened there.

0:53:410:53:43

George, Francis, myself, Miss Beston,

0:53:430:53:47

all had rooms in this particular hotel.

0:53:470:53:51

Everybody else was saying, "Don't bring George, he'll ruin everything."

0:53:510:53:55

Dicky and Denis and some others with Francis had gone out and they saw the venue.

0:53:550:53:59

And there was a big red carpet and there were the soldiers standing there.

0:53:590:54:04

They all described to me these leather boots up to the knees

0:54:040:54:08

and the red stripe up the soldiers' tight trousers.

0:54:080:54:10

And they were fairly taken by this.

0:54:100:54:13

They said Francis was...

0:54:130:54:14

You could see him sort of swell with pride at this.

0:54:140:54:17

And they went back to the hotel thinking this was going to be a good evening.

0:54:170:54:20

And Francis went up to his room.

0:54:200:54:23

There was a stink of drugs, unwashed bodies, dirty sex, and the rent boy,

0:54:230:54:27

the very dirty rent boy, who was in there with George.

0:54:270:54:30

And Francis was furious.

0:54:300:54:33

Dicky, Denis and Francis, they went drinking, they went gambling.

0:54:330:54:38

They had a four, five, six-course meal.

0:54:380:54:41

They hardly hurried home, knowing that George was in such a bad state.

0:54:410:54:46

I can't remember, exactly, the time, but it must have been sort of two o'clock in the morning.

0:54:460:54:51

There was a knock at my door and it was Francis.

0:54:510:54:54

And he said, could he come and spend the night in my room

0:54:540:55:00

cos I had double... You know, two beds.

0:55:000:55:02

Because George had brought home an Arab with smelly feet.

0:55:020:55:08

And it was so disgusting he couldn't stand it any longer.

0:55:090:55:12

And in the morning he said,

0:55:160:55:19

"Just go and see if George has got rid of the Arab."

0:55:190:55:25

There was no evidence of George being around, you know,

0:55:250:55:29

the bed was in a real state of disarray.

0:55:290:55:33

And I then checked with Miss Beston around the room,

0:55:350:55:40

and looked in the bathroom.

0:55:400:55:43

And George was on the toilet.

0:55:430:55:46

Apparently Miss Beston pushed him out of the way, went in there,

0:55:460:55:49

and did pulses and things like this and said, "No, he's dead."

0:55:490:55:53

I never even thought about it being a suicide attempt.

0:55:550:55:58

It could well have been.

0:56:000:56:01

We thought brought about by him being so drunk

0:56:030:56:08

and taking the wrong tablets.

0:56:080:56:12

And so she said, "Right, I'll take care of this."

0:56:120:56:14

And Terry was pushed out of the way.

0:56:140:56:16

And down she went.

0:56:160:56:18

And Valerie did the fixing to then make sure that

0:56:180:56:22

the death was found two days later.

0:56:220:56:25

I think it was a joint decision between Francis,

0:56:250:56:29

Valerie and the hotel manager.

0:56:290:56:34

Why was that decision made?

0:56:340:56:36

It might have put the opening in jeopardy.

0:56:360:56:39

It had to be sorted for Francis.

0:56:400:56:43

It was bizarre to think that, you know,

0:56:450:56:48

this body was going to be left in a hotel room overnight.

0:56:480:56:52

You know, it's a hell of a thing to decide not to report a dead body.

0:56:570:57:02

Whether that was Bacon's idea, you can't be sure.

0:57:020:57:06

You know? I mean,

0:57:060:57:08

it looks like maybe that's what happened,

0:57:080:57:11

but it's still a hell of a thing.

0:57:110:57:12

I mean, that's a crime.

0:57:120:57:14

Once the Grand Palais retrospective had opened,

0:57:240:57:29

the news began to sort of filter out,

0:57:290:57:32

and of course it got round with all the speed of bad news.

0:57:320:57:35

During the dinner, the whole room knew that George had committed suicide,

0:57:350:57:40

but up until then nobody had heard.

0:57:400:57:43

Francis himself was in the Grand Palais.

0:57:430:57:45

I think, it was as though he wasn't really there.

0:57:450:57:48

He seemed totally abstracted. He was pale,

0:57:480:57:52

but he went through with the dinner because he felt that it was better

0:57:520:57:55

to go through with it than to cancel.

0:57:550:57:58

So, the stories about Francis being told at the opening of his show and

0:57:580:58:03

him being so brave and going ahead with the show,

0:58:030:58:06

despite having been given this dramatic news, are absolute tosh.

0:58:060:58:09

He knew that two days before. Someone may well have gone up to him

0:58:090:58:12

and told him the story, but that was a bit of playacting.

0:58:120:58:15

There was a picture that the French had bought, a big triptych,

0:58:150:58:18

which actually has George sitting on a sort of beautifully painted

0:58:180:58:23

creamy white toilet.

0:58:230:58:25

And because the French state had just bought it,

0:58:250:58:29

President Pompidou paused for a long time in front of that image.

0:58:290:58:33

He had to stand there and talk about this image,

0:58:330:58:38

knowing that George had recently died in exactly that position.

0:58:380:58:43

IN FRENCH:

0:58:460:58:49

And it was all...

0:59:110:59:13

..awful and sad.

0:59:180:59:21

This tragic event...

0:59:230:59:27

..at the same time, gave him perhaps the deepest

0:59:290:59:35

subject he was ever to have in his life.

0:59:350:59:38

It seems a bit mad,

0:59:380:59:40

painting portraits of dead people.

0:59:400:59:43

After all, if their flesh has rotted away...

0:59:430:59:47

..once they're dead,

0:59:490:59:51

you have your memory of them, but...

0:59:510:59:55

-..you haven't got

-them.

0:59:570:59:59

He actually went back to Paris to absorb the memories,

1:00:041:00:09

to relive the events.

1:00:091:00:11

And actually stayed in the same hotel

1:00:111:00:14

where George had killed himself.

1:00:141:00:17

And from this sort of well of guilt and grief he dredged up

1:00:191:00:26

these extraordinarily haunting images that are some of, I think,

1:00:261:00:30

the most profound images in painting.

1:00:301:00:34

When it came into the gallery...

1:00:391:00:41

..and I saw it for the first time...

1:00:421:00:45

..if Francis showed any emotion to the death,

1:00:461:00:51

the emotion was in that painting.

1:00:511:00:52

Everything that he felt

1:00:541:00:57

about George was in those paintings.

1:00:571:01:00

Maybe it was just about getting it out of his system.

1:01:021:01:06

So, paint them, get them out the studio,

1:01:061:01:10

and then maybe I'll feel better.

1:01:101:01:12

It got him recognition far beyond anything he'd ever had before.

1:01:151:01:19

It was the turning point in sales

1:01:191:01:22

and sort of international reputation.

1:01:221:01:25

HE YELLS

1:01:311:01:33

He was very much collected by very important film directors.

1:01:441:01:49

And influenced, of course, in the actual films,

1:01:491:01:52

Pasolini and Bertolucci.

1:01:521:01:54

He was au courant, you know?

1:01:561:01:59

And the power of his paintings fitted the period.

1:01:591:02:02

And he's a great inspiration.

1:02:041:02:07

'When I made Theorem with Pasolini,'

1:02:161:02:19

one day, he just showed up with this book.

1:02:191:02:22

And it was a book of Francis's paintings.

1:02:221:02:25

And he said, you know, "When you're talking to the son,

1:02:251:02:28

"you can kind of be flicking through this."

1:02:281:02:30

And I realised, "Oh, he knows about Francis."

1:02:301:02:33

It becomes self-perpetuating.

1:02:331:02:36

Francis Bacon, who already at that time, late '70s, was famous.

1:02:361:02:40

I was right next door.

1:02:401:02:42

And people would approach me

1:02:421:02:44

to try and get a painting on the cheap

1:02:441:02:49

without going through his gallery at Marlborough.

1:02:491:02:51

Or to be painted by him.

1:02:511:02:53

And I would fix little things for him,

1:02:531:02:56

like a leaky pipe, electricity problem.

1:02:561:02:58

Or I'd drive him somewhere.

1:02:581:03:00

We sort of fairly quickly got over the homosexual vibes,

1:03:001:03:04

if I put it that way.

1:03:041:03:06

We got into that and I said, I just do not fancy men.

1:03:061:03:10

BACON, IN FRENCH:

1:03:101:03:16

Bacon became a quite lonely man.

1:03:281:03:31

The ageing process is particularly hard on homosexuals.

1:03:311:03:37

So, he was in a position of diminished physical beauty, as it were.

1:03:371:03:44

I went a few times with Francis to the West End gay clubs.

1:03:441:03:48

Sometimes John Edwards was there, sometimes not.

1:03:481:03:50

John was like a son he never had.

1:03:501:03:53

A friend.

1:03:531:03:55

He really, really cared for John.

1:03:551:03:57

John Edwards came into his life in a curious fashion.

1:03:571:04:01

He ran, or helped to run, a pub in the East End.

1:04:011:04:05

And Bacon had been there and said he'd come back with some friends.

1:04:051:04:09

And asked John to stock in some champagne.

1:04:091:04:13

And then Bacon didn't turn up. John was mightily pissed off.

1:04:131:04:16

And at some point, in The Colony Room, told him.

1:04:161:04:19

And this amused Bacon.

1:04:191:04:21

Within a short space of time, they became inseparable.

1:04:211:04:26

They were...

1:04:261:04:28

They were a team, like Laurel and Hardy.

1:04:281:04:30

They belonged together.

1:04:301:04:32

They just became a very unusual loving relationship. But no sex.

1:04:321:04:37

The important thing about the Edwards relationship was that it was

1:04:371:04:40

paternal, but it's not always clear who is the father and who is the son.

1:04:401:04:45

Oh, come in, John.

1:04:461:04:48

I'm glad you came down.

1:04:491:04:52

John, David is just asking me the most difficult question.

1:04:521:04:57

The pictures of Edwards are often

1:04:571:05:00

quite eroticised and quite gentle, you know.

1:05:001:05:03

Yes, he has pieces of him that disappear,

1:05:031:05:06

yes, he might be leaking, his form

1:05:061:05:08

might be leaking onto the ground,

1:05:081:05:10

but not with the kind of violence or

1:05:101:05:12

brutality that you see in Bacon's earlier paintings.

1:05:121:05:16

I often think of the Tempest in Shakespeare,

1:05:221:05:24

that there's a sort of, almost an eerie calm in Bacon's later work.

1:05:241:05:32

There's something rather beautiful and simplified.

1:05:321:05:35

A new period, a third period of Bacon's work, the late landscapes.

1:05:391:05:44

Bacon only did about ten of them before he died,

1:05:441:05:47

but that's a discreet body of late work which is absolutely great,

1:05:471:05:53

and some of his greatest work.

1:05:531:05:55

He desperately wanted to be a great artist.

1:05:551:05:58

He destroyed, right up to the end of his life,

1:05:581:06:01

and by then every time he took a knife to a painting,

1:06:011:06:03

he'd just thrown away £1 million,

1:06:031:06:06

which is really admirable, I think.

1:06:061:06:09

By 1982, he was very famous and he couldn't just...

1:06:101:06:16

crumple up the canvas and put it in the dustbin outside 7 Reece Mews,

1:06:161:06:19

because people were constantly going through his dustbin,

1:06:191:06:22

looking for Bacon scraps, OK?

1:06:221:06:25

So he wanted them absolutely destroyed.

1:06:251:06:28

So he would phone me up and I would

1:06:281:06:30

go over right away and I would do it.

1:06:301:06:32

And the only way to destroy them was with a Stanley knife,

1:06:321:06:35

so you cut into it, cut strips.

1:06:351:06:37

Cut all the strips

1:06:371:06:38

and then put it in a rubbish bag

1:06:381:06:42

and then they were taken over to the Chelsea dump.

1:06:421:06:46

And if you gave the man a fiver, who ran the fire,

1:06:461:06:49

he would take the bag right in front of your eyes and things would be burnt there, OK?

1:06:491:06:54

And then I'd report back to Francis that I did this.

1:06:541:06:57

-What did it feel like, to destroy?

-Terrible.

1:06:571:07:00

It's... Heart-wrenching, gutting, terrible to destroy a Francis Bacon painting.

1:07:031:07:09

And some of them, I obviously looked at them, I thought, "Pretty good.

1:07:091:07:12

"I would like to have one."

1:07:121:07:13

I didn't, though. No.

1:07:151:07:18

Stupid!

1:07:181:07:20

IN FRENCH:

1:07:211:07:24

What's vultures in French?

1:07:301:07:32

Francis trusted John. He would trust John with everything,

1:07:491:07:52

from the early point. I remember John coming home and saying,

1:07:521:07:56

"Francis told me where he keeps his money, where he keeps this, where he keeps that."

1:07:561:08:00

It's quite understandable that the circle would

1:08:001:08:02

look like this and say, "Who is he? What's he want?

1:08:021:08:06

"Is he trying to take advantage?"

1:08:061:08:09

So, yes, there was definitely suspicion.

1:08:091:08:12

I must have first met John Edwards with Francis,

1:08:121:08:17

presumably in Muriel's.

1:08:171:08:20

He thought it was very funny to handcuff me to the bar.

1:08:201:08:25

And he said he was going to place a bet.

1:08:261:08:29

And I didn't have any appointment or anything I was doing that day,

1:08:291:08:33

it was a free day,

1:08:331:08:35

so, I wasn't worried.

1:08:351:08:38

But it took him an hour and a half or a little more

1:08:381:08:41

to place his bet, and so, he eventually

1:08:411:08:46

did reappear, just when I was wondering

1:08:461:08:48

what I would do if I was going to be there for the night.

1:08:481:08:52

It was only one arm, so my drinking arm was free,

1:08:521:08:55

and I was sitting drinking anyhow.

1:08:551:08:58

The most important thing for Francis was that John had enough money to

1:08:581:09:02

last his life. He changed his will.

1:09:021:09:04

When you think of Francis and how complicated his life was,

1:09:041:09:08

this will was one page long, just one page.

1:09:081:09:10

And everything went to John Edwards if he succeeded Francis by three months.

1:09:101:09:15

Francis always made John aware that he would inherit a lot of money.

1:09:151:09:19

Well, Bacon said he thought about death every day of his life.

1:09:231:09:27

And as he aged, it must have become more and more present to him, death,

1:09:271:09:35

and as his friends died, others died...

1:09:351:09:37

The death of Muriel... I think the fading of The Colony

1:09:371:09:42

must have been difficult for Bacon.

1:09:421:09:45

In the '80s, Soho really had ended.

1:09:451:09:49

It was pretty much running on fumes and I think that that had, you know,

1:09:491:09:53

a very depressing influence on Bacon on top of everything else.

1:09:531:09:59

You know, it's - what is it? - 40 years on or something,

1:09:591:10:02

and he would have been reminded greatly about the passing of time.

1:10:021:10:08

Well, I'd seen Bacon around a lot, but I'd never spoken to him

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cos, I guess a kind of hero or something and I was quite young,

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but I used to see him in cafes in Soho.

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And if I'd been out late, I'd end up going early morning into

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a cafe, and sometimes he'd be having breakfast.

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So it was kind of odd to be in the same room as him and not speak to him

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but then, I just thought, what the hell would I say or whatever?

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In his last years, he looked very old and very tired

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and he must have felt very pained

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at that moment, you know, to see the world flashing before his eyes.

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John wasn't always there for him.

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John was there to support him, but he wasn't there 24/7.

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From day one, John had his partner, Philip.

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They'd been together five or six years before Francis came on the scene.

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And that was a no-go area.

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That was John's life,

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Francis was totally aware of that.

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John Edwards was travelling a lot, he didn't live in London, and again,

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I was living 20 metres away from him, so it deepened his trust in me.

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The opportunity came up to arrange a supper party at my place for Francis Bacon.

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So Frederick Ashton had already committed to come,

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who was the great choreographer of the time.

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I was left with an empty seat and I thought, "Who can I invite?"

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Jose Capelo was someone I used to see at first at the Royal Opera House.

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He was interested in art.

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And I phoned Jose and he leapt at the chance.

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And Ashton and Francis took an immediate liking to him.

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And Francis was rather famous, of course,

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for liking a certain amount of roughish trade.

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There was an element of relief with Jose, because Jose was firmly

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well-educated, professional middle class,

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and so was much easier to talk to.

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I think John would have been happy for Francis.

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There was no jealousy there between them.

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Nothing for John to worry about.

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John had all the keys to all the boxes.

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Francis Bacon and Jose Capelo shared a safety deposit box at Harrods.

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They both had keys.

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John wanted the key from Jose.

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Jose was very difficult to read, as far as what really drove him.

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And I never went further. He would clam up.

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They were travelling together. They would go to Venice, Madrid.

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Francis would come back with a big smile on his face.

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He was a happy man. He was in love

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and for Francis, that obviously meant sexually it was going well.

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Yes, in 1988, he's inspired.

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He re-works, re-studies.

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It is not brutish any longer.

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It's as if the monsters have been turned into silk,

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and they no longer are going to jump out of the frame and bite you.

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There is something distant.

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But that is kind of fascinating too, you know?

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I mean, to look at your earlier work, and your earlier

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juicy brutality, and then make it more designed,

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distant, behind glass - it's another feeling.

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-HIRST:

-The Figure At The Base Of A Crucifixion,

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that's just an unbelievable painting.

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I mean, I made a couple of pieces which were directly, you know,

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taken from Bacon paintings.

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Like I made a three-dimensional triptych.

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I saw these kind of terrifying social spaces that Bacon was painting.

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I remember thinking, "I wonder if I could actually make these spaces?"

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I got a phone call from the Saatchi Gallery and they said,

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"Bacon was in today and he was stood in front of your sculpture for an hour."

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I was like, "An hour? No, can't be an hour."

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Around September 1990, we went up to Saatchi's -

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the first time he saw Damien Hirst.

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He liked one piece of Damien Hirst and we came back and we were having drinks.

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After you've drunk a bottle of wine

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you come to things that really matter,

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and it's not looking at Damien Hirst, it's your love affair.

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Jose had framed it like "Francis, I want to stay your friend."

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That means no more sexual relationship.

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And for Francis Bacon, he knew exactly what it meant, and he was devastated.

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So Francis, in his cups...

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..told me about the relationship and those two years with Jose,

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and the fact that he'd given Jose four million US.

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and two of his paintings.

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I could read his pain, how gutted he was, his anguish.

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Well, I would say he slowly, slowly deteriorated from 1990,

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over the following two years,

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and I took him to one specialist after another

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and none of them could help him.

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He kept saying to me, "I've got to go to Madrid cos I want to see Jose".

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IN FRENCH:

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Finally, Francis Bacon, one of the most highly acclaimed

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British painters this century has died.

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The painter Francis Bacon has died at the age of 82.

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He collapsed while on holiday in Spain.

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It's thought he had a heart attack.

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He kept saying to me, "I've got to see Jose."

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I said, "Francis, whatever you do, don't go to Madrid,

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"because you're not going to survive if you do."

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I was really destroyed when I heard he had died.

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It was really very, very sad.

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But it was inevitable.

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He was reckless about his own life and other people's lives, I think.

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What caused the heart attack?

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Was it... Did Jose and Francis have a huge row?

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And Francis had the heart attack and was whisked off to hospital.

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Francis was in a Catholic hospital being attended by Catholic nuns

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and Jose was not there.

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It's despicable.

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I think that if Bacon is consistent,

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he has to be prepared to die at any time,

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to be taken advantage of at any time,

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for things not to work out at any time,

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and I think he was. He was a gambler.

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He understood that gamblers usually lose.

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The Study Of A Bull,

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the last painting Bacon completed,

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is mostly raw canvas.

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I don't think that's a question of it

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being unfinished in any sense.

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He said what he wanted to say in that top left corner of the painting.

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The bull seems to be shifting between two spaces.

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That seems like life and death.

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And the fact that he used dust as a medium,

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this is the dust to which he will return,

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as indeed he did in Madrid only a few months later.

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Whatever it is, 50 years, 75 years later,

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they seem even more important, more...

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monumental in their effect.

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He seems to have been perceived now

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almost as a kind of religious painter,

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as somebody who emanates out of

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sort of 16th-century Italian painting,

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because it has that degree of passion, martyrdom and torture,

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which is what's so wonderful about Francis's painting, to my mind.

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There's a sort of sacred quality to them.

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