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Coming home to Wales is international movie star Ioan Gruffudd, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
back home on these shores to discover the extraordinary story | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
of his Welsh ancestry. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
On this journey, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Ioan is moved to learn of the service and sacrifice made | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
by his family in World War II. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Well, we're so lucky, aren't we? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
So lucky. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
Whilst a trip back to school brings out his mischievous side. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
I used to come running round here. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
So that was a sure way of getting yourself into trouble with | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
the teachers here at Glantaf. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
And he discovers how these ancient tombs hold the secret | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
to his family's royal ancestry. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
That's... That's extraordinary. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
As Ioan Gruffudd is coming home. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Making his mark at the age of 24 on the hit TV series Hornblower | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
as its swashbuckling title star, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Ioan was destined for fame, the red carpet and Hollywood. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
He's played opposite Keira Knightley and Clive Owen in King Arthur, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
as the iconic Marvel comic book hero Mr Fantastic, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
and worked alongside the world's biggest movie stars. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
And today, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
Ioan has made Hollywood his home. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
But even here, living in the heart of Los Angeles, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
it's clear he's lost none of the passion for his homeland of Wales. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Yeah! Get in there! Come on! | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
History in the making! Come on! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
What heart! What heart! | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Now at home with his family in the United States, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Ioan is particularly keen to trace his Welsh ancestry, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
so he can share the story with his two daughters, Ella and Elsie. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Da iawn ti, Elsie! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Da iawn! | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Wnest ti'n dda! | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Ioan's journey begins in Hollywood, captured on film by his wife, Alice. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
How do you feel? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
You know what, I, er... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
I'm probably more nervous about this trip than I ever have been about | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
getting on a plane, going to do a big film or going to do a TV show | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
or standing on stage. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Erm, I don't know why. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
I think it's... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
I suppose, in a week's time, when I come back to LA, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
I will probably have learned so much more about | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
my own family and my own past | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and it'll probably shed some light on the fact that, you know, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
maybe our daughters' genes do come from my side of the family | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
when they're being naughty and terrible! | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Which is what I've always been saying! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
But, er, I don't know. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
You know what's amazing, you know, we're both actors, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
we're both storytellers. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
I just can't wait to hear the stories, you know, the adventures, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
the good and the bad and I suppose, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
I have to be prepared for the ugly and sort of the sad as well, so, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
erm... Yeah, very nervous, trepidatious, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
but ultimately, quite excited. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Very exciting. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
OK, give us a kiss! | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
Mwah! | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Bye, baby! Have fun. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Not too much fun, though! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
So Ioan sets off from Los Angeles on his long journey back home to Wales. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
Meanwhile back in Cardiff, | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
there are two people in particular keenly awaiting Ioan's arrival. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
At the Gruffudd family home, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
parents Peter and Gill have been eagerly anticipating his homecoming. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
And they couldn't be more proud of their little boy. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
We have supported him and his brother and sister | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-whatever they wanted to do, really. -Yeah. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
And it's just, erm, great that he has... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:29 | |
-Had work, to be honest with you. -Well, yes, exactly, because... | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
At the end of the day, it's work, isn't it, you know! | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
He went into it knowing that he could be out of work | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
more than he was in work because, I mean, he'd had experience with | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
working with professional actors, so, erm... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
But it was a case of that's what he wanted to do and we said, well, yes, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
if that's what you want to do, then you must try it now. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-Go for it, go for it, yeah. -And see what happens. -Yeah. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
And yes, he's done well and we're obviously very proud. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
Yes. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
It's quite, emotional. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
Ioan's parents live in the village of Pentyrch, just outside Cardiff. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
And, after a long flight, Ioan is finally back in Wales | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
and home to his mum and dad's. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
-Hello? -Hello! -Hello. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
Sut wyt it ers sbel fawr? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Ioan has travelled over 6,000 miles to enjoy this hug from his parents. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
But now, it's time to get started on the family story. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
And of course, any research into your tree | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
must begin with the family album. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Well, so this is me as a young baby. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
How many weeks old is this? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Oh, maybe six... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
It's baby Ioan on his grandmother's shawl. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
This is a shawl that Mam-gu, your mam-gu made. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
My mam-gu made? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Yes, my mother. My mother made that. She made a lot of... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
And a talent that has been passed down through the generations. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Oh, yeah, your Mam, yes. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
So how much do you know about your grandparents and your ancestors? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
On my side, on my father's side, I don't know them at all, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
because they both passed away well before I was born. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
I mean, how do you feel about finding out, you know, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
more specifically... | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
Oh, I'd love to, to be honest, because especially my father's side, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
I didn't know any of them, you know. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Of my grandparents on my father's side. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
That would be really an eye-opener for me. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
I'm looking forward to that, yeah. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
I'm looking forward as well. I think it's very exciting. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
It is, it is, it is! | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
There might be some skeletons in the cupboard! | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Whatever comes, whatever comes. You never know, do you? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
Exactly, exactly. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
So now, the ancestral story can begin. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Joining Ioan at his parents home is genealogist Mike Churchill Jones, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
who's been busy piecing together the family tree and is about to reveal | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
the extent of this hard work - | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
the biggest tree Mike has ever produced. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Ioan - croeso - welcome to your tree reading. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-Thank you. -There's a lot of it. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
-Want to give me a hand unrolling it? -Absolutely. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
OK. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
-You're going to have to take it to the end, I'm afraid. -Am I really? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Well, well, well. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
Goodness me, Mike. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It looks like the accumulation of... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
How many years? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-Wow! -And again. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
Look at that! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
Well, well, well. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
What do you think? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
That's very impressive. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
The first thing that comes to mind is, "Oh, my goodness, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
"how hard have you been working to do this?" | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
This is beautiful. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-It's been enjoyable. -Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Straight away, the tree reveals Ioan has deep Welsh ancestry on both his | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
mother and his father's side. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Ancestry that can be traced back all the way to the late 1500s | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
to west Wales and the town of Kidwelly. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
But there's one person on the tree, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Ioan's seven times great-grandfather Walter Anthony, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
who's proving difficult to track down. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
This man is a bit of a mystery man. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Right. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
In terms of where he came from, who he is, his...? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Basically, who he is, who he married and when he died. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
At this moment in time, I've no idea. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-So there's no...? -I can't answer those questions. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
You can't answer those questions as a genealogist, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
even though there are records of other people during that time? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-Plenty of people have tried to research this man... -Right. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
..and he's been pretty elusive. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
I've played, sort of, Sherlockian sort of characters on television, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
-so I'm... -This might come in handy, then. | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
I'm very, very keen to try and put or piece all this together. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
So the tree reveals that some of Ioan's earliest recorded ancestors | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
lived in Kidwelly in south-west Wales. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
So, that's where he travels first. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Here, the story begins with Ioan's | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
ten times great-grandfather, David Mansell, born in 1590. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Kidwelly's famous castle would have been a familiar sight to David | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
and his wife Mary and it's here | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
where Ioan meets with historian Chris Delaney. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Come inside the castle. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Chris has been digging deep into the archive to unearth this story and | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
straight away wants to take Ioan to the very top of the castle. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Way up here in the ancient turrets, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
he'll discover that his family's ancestry can be directly linked | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
to the castle's history and that, in fact, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
he's walking in the very footsteps of his forebears, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
who were a very important family here in Kidwelly | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
in its earliest days. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
For the first time, Ioan has the chance to view the land that | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
they surveyed more than 400 years ago. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
So, tell me, this vista now, from this vantage point, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
from this height on Castell Cydweli, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
how different may it have looked, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
compared to what we're seeing here today? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, obviously, lots of changes, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
but one of the reasons why I brought your up here is because | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
the key elements in the landscape haven't changed since the time | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
that your ancestors were here. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
So, obviously, we've got this wonderful, magnificent castle that | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
we're standing on top of, we've got the church of St Mary, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-the priory church of St Mary, over there. -Mm-hm. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Out there, you can see the river, the Gwendraeth Fach, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
coming in from the sea, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
which is critical to the development and supply of the castle, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
to the development of the town. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
And down there, is the town we can see and, in the distance, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
you can see the town gate. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
So how does Chris know Ioan's ancestors lived in this area | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
such a long time ago? | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
He takes Ioan to the nearby Kidwelly Industrial Museum | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
to reveal the story. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
In chairs once occupied by former mayors of Kidwelly, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Chris can reveal that Ioan's ancestors were also very important people. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
Your family were powerful, very significant, very, very influential | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
people in this area for a period of time in the 17th and 18th centuries. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
So, we're going to kind of explore that a little bit | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and where I'm going to start is with this document, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
which is a copy document of the 1619 charter. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
This is a charter that was given by the Duchy of Lancaster and | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
King James to them. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
So, it's carrying a royal seal, a seal of approval, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
so if anybody messes with you, you've got the Crown on your side. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Well, this is, as I said, is the 1619 charter, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
and I'd like you to read out a little bit about it, starting here, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
because it is a very significant document for you personally. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
The original of this charter document was issued over | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
400 years ago in the areas around Kidwelly Castle. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
The charter identified the so-called burgesses, important people with | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
rights to collect rents on land and to trade and even tax the people. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Ioan is looking for the name of his ten times great-grandfather, David Mansell. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
We have also assigned, nominated, constituted and made and do, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
by these present for us, our heirs and successors assign, nominated, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
constitute and make our beloved Owen Bowen, John Dyer, David Dyer, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:50 | |
John Phillips, Maurice Fisher, David Mansell... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
-David Mansell! -That's your David Mansell. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
That's your ten times great-grandfather, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
who is appearing in a document of 1619. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
That's incredible. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
Yeah. And he's listed there, in this document, as a principal burgess. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
I see here. First and now principal burgesses of the borough of Kidwelly. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
Yeah. These are the people elevated from the burgesses, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
they're elected by the burgesses to become, if you like, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
senior or principal burgesses and it's like a first step on a | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
career ladder that can lead them to higher things within the town. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
That's incredible. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
That's incredible. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
And there he is. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
I feel, sort of, much more comfortable and relaxed in this | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
position of power! | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Well, enjoy the seat for a few moments yet. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
Yes, exactly! I shall indeed, yes, yes. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
We'll call this meeting to a meeting adjourned, yes, indeed. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Excellent. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
Before today, Ioan knew nothing of his family connection to Kidwelly | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
or of just how important his Mansell family were here in this area. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Something he can reflect on, as he surveys the place that was once | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
subject to taxation by his own prestigious ancestors. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
But as Ioan will learn, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
this is by no means the end of his Mansell family saga. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Now the story in Kidwelly moves forward three generations to Ioan's | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
seven times great-grandfather, one Walter Anthony. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Apart from his name, little is known of Walter. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
There's no birth record or other official records to explain | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
where he came from, but Ioan has discovered, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
from the Carmarthen archive, that there is someone connected | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
to the family living in Kidwelly today, who's been researching this mystery for over 40 years. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
Come in, come in. Dewch mewn. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Her name is Iris Davis, and Ioan is delighted to be meeting up | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
with his long lost relative at her home. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, regarding Walter Anthony, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
I don't know from where he was, unless he came down from the sky! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
He could've happened that way. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
-Yes. -Because I've searched and searched and I've failed, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
so I'm up to a dead-end here. Against the wall. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
You've come to a dead-end. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
I heard that he was such a mystery that we were fearing as much | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
-that we might have come to a bit of a dead-end.... -Yes, yes. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
..but I'm sure you, with your knowledge and your expertise, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
have some theories, perhaps, maybe? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
One piece of evidence Iris has managed to track down | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
is the actual marriage bond of Walter Anthony to an Elizabeth Beynon in 1730. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:56 | |
-He married in Aberystwyth. -Mm-hm. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
And the funny part about it, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
just Walter Anthony, and then marries Elizabeth Beynon, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
10th of July, 1730. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
No denominations. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
No parents' name, no home name, nothing. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
That's what I say - why? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
He must have come down from somewhere! | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-He just appeared. -Yes, appeared. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
In the history books, as it were. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-Yes. -But they... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
But his name is on this ledger. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh, yes, definitely. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
-But just his name, and her name... -Yes. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-..Elizabeth Beynon's name. -Yes. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
But nothing more, you said? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
No. No denominations. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-Well, well, well. -No home name. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
No father, parents, nothing. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
So, we can only speculate, is what we're saying? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
Let me just get this straight in my... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
So, Elizabeth... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
-Beynon. -Beynon. -And she married a Walter Anthony. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
She married a Walter Anthony, but him, we don't know... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
No. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
-He just appears from nowhere. -Yes, yes. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Now Ioan has learned that his seven times great-grandmother was called | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
Elizabeth Beynon, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
and so wants to find out more about this marriage to try and help solve | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
the mystery for himself and Iris. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
It would be wonderful if we could continue on our journey | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
and see if we can help to put her out of her misery, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
her sort of 40-year long misery, it seems to me! | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
And also, shed some light on this mysterious character, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Walter Anthony, who in her words, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
seems to have appeared out of thin air or fallen from the sky! | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Ioan hopes to learn more of this story later, but, for now, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
he's moving forward in time several generations. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
He's particularly keen to learn more of the life of his grandmother, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
known as Eiry, born in 1917. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Eiry trained as a nurse, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
and in World War II, worked through the London Blitz, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
which began on September 7th, 1940, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
when the capital was bombed for 58 consecutive nights. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
As a surgical nurse, Eiry witnessed first-hand | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
the horrific injuries of soldiers returning from the front. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
To learn more of her role at that time, there's only one expert | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
that Ioan should meet - | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
and that's Eiry herself. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Now aged 99, she is at her favourite cafe in her hometown of Pontyberem, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
accompanied by Ioan's dad, Peter. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
You must have, in your capacity during the war as a nurse, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
you must have come across several | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
injured and wounded soldiers, yes? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Oh, some. Oh, they were poor. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Some had to go to other hospitals for operations and things like that. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
And then you were sort of in the wards? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
I was working in the theatre. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
No! | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
At the time when the operations were going, some of them. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Not all of them, some of them. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
Working in the East End of London, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Eiry was far from safe from bombing raids. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
One side of the ward, windows come in, all of them. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
This side was safe. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
That was strange, you know. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
-So, from a...? -With the impact or the something of the... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Of the bomb. -Of the bomb, yeah. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
-And you'd take them, then, away from there, didn't you? -Yeah. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Take them downstairs. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
My word, we were afraid. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
But, in the end, we'd just carry on as if nothing had happened. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
You got used to it and you had to, in a way, you know. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
You had to. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
To have your perspective on that particular part of history | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
that has affected so many people across the UK, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
and so many people here in Carmarthenshire, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
and affected us directly | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and that you were, physically, part of it... | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
So, we have all these incredible images from war footage, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
or history footage, but now I'm hearing first-hand somebody who was | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
there and I'm directly related and she's sat here next to me. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Ioan and his family are rightly proud of his grandmother, Eiry. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
And she was not the only member of the family to serve with such | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
distinction in World War II. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
To learn of this next story, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Ioan has travelled to Tenby, on the trail of his paternal cousin, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
David Leslie Griffiths, who was known as Leslie. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
A general labourer before World War II, by June 1944, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
33-year-old Leslie was about to step onto the beaches of Normandy, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
as part of Operation D-Day - | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
the Allied effort to free mainland Europe from Nazi occupation. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
An operation practised for here, in Tenby, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
as historian Dr Jonathan Hicks explains. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
And this beach, North Beach in Tenby, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
was used in the spring of 1944, by the American 28th Division, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
-to practise for their landings on the famous Omaha Beach. -Ah. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
So, the exercises took part here, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
on this very beach? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Because the topography of the land is very similar to Omaha Beach. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
Well, well, well. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
So, it's almost identical to the topography that they would have | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
come across in Normandy, at Omaha Beach. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-So, this is where they did their exercises and their drills... -Yes. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
..in preparation for that historic day. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
This image shows American troops scaling the rocky Tenby cliffs, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
in preparation for D-Day. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
After years of planning, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
the D-Day landings were scheduled for early June, 1944, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
but poor weather and rough seas made the invasion impossible. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Over 100,000 troops were forced to spend days at sea. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
Amongst their number was a member of Ioan Grufudd's family - | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
one Leslie Griffiths - | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
just waiting for the green light to land. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
The night before the invasion, Eisenhower issued every man, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
including Leslie Griffiths, with a copy of that. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
"You're about to embark on a great crusade, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
"toward which we have striven these many months. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
"The eyes of the world are upon you. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
"The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
"march with you." Oh. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
"I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty and skill | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
"in battle. We will accept nothing less than full victory." | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
Each man would have been issued this from Dwight Eisenhower. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Received one of those. What isn't known, generally, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
is that Eisenhower wrote two dispatches, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
-to be issued to the press the following morning. -Mm-hm. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
One - the invasion has been a success, casualties are light, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
the Germans are on the retreat. The second one - | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
the invasion has been a failure. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I'd like to apologise for the heavy casualties we suffered | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and he was going to tender his resignation. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-Thankfully, as we know... -Yes. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
-..it was the former that was used, not the latter. -Wow. Wow. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
-So, this was, really, a, sort of, do-or-die mission. -Yes. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-There was no second chance. -No, this was it. Yeah. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
Incredible. Incredible. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
On June 6th, 1944, Leslie Griffiths, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
along with 156,000 other troops, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
stormed the beaches of Normandy. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
His battalion landed on Sword Beach, with over 28,000 other soldiers, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
and support from over 6,000 ships and 11,000 planes. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Thousands of men perished on the beaches. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
But Leslie was when of the lucky ones, who made it inland. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
And we know exactly where he was. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
-He was with F Troop, there - position 324. -Well, well. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
So, you can even see the field that he was in, on Sword Beach. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
Leslie's role was arming an anti-aircraft gun, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
to provide protection for Allied troops trying to get inland from the beach. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
His battalion suffered severe casualties, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
with many of their heavy weapons destroyed by the German onslaught. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
What happened next has been recorded in the regimental diary. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
-I have here a copy of the war diary for the regiment. -Yeah. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:38 | |
And I would like you to read what happened at eight o'clock | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
on the morning of the 13th. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
So, the 13th of June... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
8.00am. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
"Regiment fired...2,300 rounds - | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
"100 rounds per gun against ground targets, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
"with 4 Army Group, Royal Artillery. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
"Three of the ranks wounded by a premature at F Troop." | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
So, what had happened was that the barrel became so hot, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
because they couldn't afford to break the firing, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
to allow it to cool down, that when they put a round in to the barrel, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
-it exploded inside the gun. -Oh. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
But the war diary doesn't tell the complete story, Ioan, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
because the explosion was so catastrophic, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
-it actually killed Leslie. -No. No. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
And more than that, it was such a large explosion, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
-in such a confined space... -Yeah. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-..that his body could not be identified. -Hmm. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-Hmm. -So, he has no known grave. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
And his life was over at the age of 33. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
But he is remembered with honour, because his name | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
is inscribed on the walls of the Bayeux Memorial To The Missing. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
And his name will be there forever, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
in commemoration of his sacrifice for his country. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
We are so lucky, aren't we? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
We are. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
So lucky. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Yeah, we know nothing, do we, really? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
When you think about... | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
..you know, how... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
The freedoms that we have, you know. The fact that we went... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:58 | |
One has to volunteer to go out to war... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
..and these young men and women, you know, never had a chance, you know. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
Yeah, so we're really hearing these, sort of, personal stories, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
even though, you know, it's a few generations ago. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
It just goes to show that we've all come from that | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
-and we've all benefited from those sacrifices. -Yes. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Amazing. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Ioan is clearly very moved by this story. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Leslie died over 70 years ago, but remarkably, there is someone | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
still living in Wales | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
who was there fighting on the same beaches as Leslie. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Private Bill Speak, now 92, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
who Ioan will be meeting tomorrow, to learn more of his story. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
The following morning, and Ioan is looking forward to his meeting with Bill. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
But there's some very sad news. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
Carol, Bill's daughter, rang us up early this morning, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
to say, sadly, Bill had passed away last night in his sleep | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
and we were going to have a chance to interview him today. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:27 | |
Well, I was going to have the chance to interview him today, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
face-to-face, and hear his stories about the landings on D-Day... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
..to tie in with what I'd learnt on the beach in Tenby. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
So...it's a very, sort of... | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
..sad bit of news, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
of a young... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
..or who would have been a very young soldier, at the time, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
alongside my ancestor, David Leslie, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
storming the beaches of Normandy. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
Ioan may not have met Private Bill Speak in person, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
but he can view, on his laptop, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
an interview our research team did earlier in the year with Bill, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
who clearly had forgotten none of the horrors of that day. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Soldiers were being bowled over, killed. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Dying. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Didn't have to stop, to help anybody. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
You just had to go on... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
..if you were in the same position. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
You just had to carry on, if you could. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
I think we were all very pleased, that evening, to see the sun set! | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
It's quite a poignant day today. A very sad day... | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
..on our journey, but at least we have Bill here | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
and Bill's stories preserved in time. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
Ioan must now leave Tenby, to continue on his journey. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
There's so much more for him to learn, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
including how these ancient Welsh tombs | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
contain secrets of his family's past. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
But first, Ioan's homecoming wouldn't be complete | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
without a trip to his former school, Glantaf, here in Cardiff. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
Not only was Ioan a pupil here, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
but his father was also the deputy headmaster. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Here we are. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Glantaf, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
where I spent, well, seven years, I guess, from the age of 11 to 18. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
But this little area in here is where... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
..the school kids are now doing their examinations. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
It's their GCSEs. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
I remember doing my GCSEs and how intense that period was, you know, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
studying for, well, what should've been weeks on end, but..! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
I remember, I wasn't very good at maths, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
so I had to get some extra help to pass my GCSE maths, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:20 | |
because if you didn't pass your maths, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
you couldn't go on to do A-level. So, I scraped a B, in the end. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
I was very proud of my B in maths in GCSE. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
THEY SPEAK IN HUSHED WHISPERS | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
This gentleman here, I've just told them, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
was the reason I passed my GCSE maths! | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
This gentleman helped me out, to get me over the line. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
-He didn't need much help. -No, no. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
But we spent many an hour together, going over and over and over | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
all the angles and... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-..the formulas. -Very difficult work it was, at the time! | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
And this hasn't changed at all, this corridor here. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
It's all exactly the same. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
Some of the staff there. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
The headmaster's office is here. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Shwmai, Ioan! | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
-How are you? -I'm good, thanks. -Neis i weld ti. -Great to see you. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
This is Mr Ceri Evans. He taught me rugby. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
He's always supported everything we've done in the PE Department | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
over the years. Always written brochures for us. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
He's always been very, very supportive and we can always rely on him | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-to give us a good word every time. -Yeah. -What a gentleman. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-What an excellent guy. -Oh, thank you. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-Diolch, Ceri. -Pleser. Neis i weld ti! | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Even though his father was the deputy head, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Ioan wasn't always such a good boy. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
I used to come running round here. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
Did that... | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
Shooooom! | 0:32:54 | 0:32:55 | |
So that was a sure way of getting yourself into trouble | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
with the teachers here at Glantaf. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
See, not bad, eh? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Still got the old skill of sliding down a banister! | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
As Mr Ceri Evans, our PE teacher would say, "Skill is forever"! | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
This corridor here is where I got thrown out of a Welsh class, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
for being cheeky and boisterous, and I would stand... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
You'd have to stand outside the classroom door, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
with the shame and humiliation, but because my dad was | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
the deputy head here, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
I would just walk up and down the corridor and, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
if I did bump into him, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I'd have the excuse, "Oh, I'm just on an errand, for the teacher". | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
And Ioan's favourite music teacher still works here. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
I can hear her voice. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
KNOCKING | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
Wel, croeso i'r adran gerdd! | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
It's a definite warm welcome for one of the music department's | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
former star pupils. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Well, if you call it... Is it too much? Too loud? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
No, it was very beautiful. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:02 | |
Yeah, I remember you, Ioan, as a brilliant oboist. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
-And I remember your Prac A-Level. -That's right, yes. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
-Albinoni, Concerto No. 9. -Yes, Albinoni's Oboe Concerto. Yes. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-I remember that. -Thank you. Wow, wow. That's great. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-He was pretty good. -I must have done a good impression, then. -Yes! | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
-Made a good impression, yeah. -The school orchestra was accompanying | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
you and you had full marks, as well. I remember. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
And before Ioan leaves, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
there's just enough time to say goodbye to new friends, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
as well as old. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
-Hyfryd iawn. -Wy'n credu bod llun tebyg gyda dy dad. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
And even to tell a few stories about young, mischievous Ioan. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
We'd get, sort of, cress, and we'd pour cress seeds down the sink, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
so as the term progressed, you know, the cress would grow. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
And with one last goodbye, it's time for Ioan to complete | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
the final leg of his journey. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Now, for the next chapter in his family tree, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Ioan is back in Carmarthenshire | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
and the small former coal-mining village of Pontyberem. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Joined by his father Peter, they are visiting Caersalem Church, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
on the trail of Ioan's paternal great-great uncle, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Rhys Griffiths, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
who worshipped here in the period before World War I. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
On the outbreak of the Great War, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
there was no compulsory military service. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
But in 1916, all single men, aged 18 to 41, were conscripted. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:36 | |
But Rhys's strong religious beliefs led him to becoming what was known | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
as a conscientious objector - those refusing to bear arms. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
There were around 16,000 known objectors in the UK, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
with religion being the primary reason. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Although Rhys strongly believed "thou shalt not kill", | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
he did make a contribution to the war effort, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
by joining the Royal Medical Corps, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
as historian Jeremy Banning explains. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
After his training, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
he was sent over to France, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
in January 1916... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
..and went into a quiet sector of the line, at that time. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
-I've got some images here to show you... -Gosh. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
..whereabouts they were. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
An area between the villages of Neuve Chapelle and Festubert, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
both of which had been assaulted in the spring of 1915. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
So, the British had moved forward and the lines had then stabilised. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
The trenches Rhys experienced in Artois were unusual, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
because they were built up, rather than dug down. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
This was due to the high water tables. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
A mere two feet below the ground and digging would've released | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
hazardous water among the troops. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Rhys knew these trenches well. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
Now, his role within the Royal Army Medical Corps, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
he joined a unit called 106 Field Ambulance. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
And they were there to look after particular men | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
of a certain division. And his role in that was to form, or their role, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
was to form various points along a casualty-evacuation chain. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
So, if a soldier was wounded in the front line here, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
let's say by rifle fire, shot through the shoulder, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
he would be there. They'd call, the call would go up, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
"Stretcher bearers!" and the medics would rush in | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
and he would be there to, hopefully, put an iodine, pour iodine onto | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
the wound, a dressing on there, ideally a, sort of, tourniquet, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
to stop the bleeding in some way, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
wrap them up, and then get those men, the wounded man, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
from down these trenches | 0:37:35 | 0:37:36 | |
and out through the casualty-evacuation chain. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
So, you have stretcher bearers and an aid post a little bit | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
further back and, then, if that man was OK, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
being taken back again and through a recognised | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
casualty-evacuation chain. So, he's integral to what is going on | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
at the front, but the critical thing is, he's not bearing arms, at all. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-He's rescuing men. -Yeah. -He's helping them. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Jeremy has the war diary from the battalion Rhys was looking after. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
It records a major German bombardment on May 30th, 1916, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
as Ioan can now read for himself. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
"W Company held onto the trenches till, as far as can be ascertained, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:18 | |
"about 8:15pm, when all three officers doing duty with the company | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
"having been wounded, the company commander, Captain Ainsworth, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
"who, at that time, had been twice wounded | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
"and who refused to be removed, gave orders for all men who could move, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
"or be removed, to close on flanks and take up fresh positions." | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Oh, gosh. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
That's incredible. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
Because of the artillery bombardment, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
the British suffer a great deal of casualties, in this bombardment. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
And one of them... | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-..is Rhys. -Rhys. Ah, well... | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
Quite emotional, yeah. Quite touching, really. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
-I can see a bit of my father in him. -Yes. Yes. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
What a waste. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:11 | |
-Yes. -Absolute waste. -Yes. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Jeremy has discovered a letter to Rhys's father, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
written by the battalion chaplain. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
"Field Ambulance, France, June 1st, 1916. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
"Dear Mr Griffiths, I have to break the sad news to you of the death of | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
"your son, Rhys, on the night of the 30th of May. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
"In the bombardment of the trenches, there were many wounded | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
"and he and his friend, Dugdale, were together giving first aid | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
"and carrying the wounded back into safety. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
"As I understood it, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
"it was while Rhys and Dugdale were attending a wounded officer | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
"that a shell burst which killed Rhys, but left Dugdale unharmed, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:57 | |
"except for a severe shock. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
"When he is well enough, he will be writing to tell you about it, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
"but there is no doubt that Rhys showed great bravery | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
"and thought not of himself, in his noble devotion to duty. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
"I knew him and loved him. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
"He was known to be a splendid comrade and a true Christian." | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
-He certainly sounds a... -A decent chap. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
A pretty decent chap. Well thought of. I should say, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
-he was only 23 years old when he was killed. -Mm. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Rhys's body was buried in France, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
but he is remembered on his father's grave in the Caersalem cemetery. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
It's quite emotional, really. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
In the futility of war, obviously, but also, he held his beliefs. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
During the war, everybody knew what his beliefs were, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
that he had thought of going to the ministry, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
but he did go to the war, to save people's lives, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
and although he was killed himself, he did carry out that. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
He accomplished what he wanted to do, in a way. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
And I'm sure that whole path of Flanders Fields are littered | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
with these sort of stories, you know, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-which probably affected every single family in the UK. -Mm. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
Now comes the most extraordinary story of all. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
Is it possible that Ioan is descended from royal blood? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
Earlier, he learnt of his ancestors, the Mansell family. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Their extensive wealth and power can be seen here, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
at Margam Abbey, near Neath. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
But can their ancestral line be traced even further back? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
The story Ioan is about to learn begins in the 16th century, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
when his ancestor, David Lloyd, married into the Mansell family. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
Historian Gerald Morgan takes up the story from here. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
He was a David Lloyd, but he took the name Mansell from his wife. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
-That's unusual, isn't it? -Not when money comes in. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
-Oh, there's money involved? -Yes. -Right! -Yes. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
Men were willing to change their surnames, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
if money came with the heiress or the well-endowed wife. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
So, it's Ioan's ten times great-grandmother, Mary Mansell, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
that has interested Gerald. But what of her ancestry? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
We can trace, from Mary Mansell, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
we can trace back through a number of interesting people, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
which explains why we're in this great church. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
We have here Sir Rhys Mansell, died 1559. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
He, I regard as the real founder of the Margam Mansell family, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
because he was a great servant to Henry VIII. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
He fought in Ireland, on Henry's behalf. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
His sons were a pretty turbulent bunch, on his behalf. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:53 | |
But he was quite a character, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
and he was able to buy the Margam Abbey estate from Henry VIII | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
when the monasteries were dissolved. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
In the early 1500s, the Pope was the head of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
but when the Pope refused to grant Henry VIII a divorce from Catherine | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
of Aragon, Henry split from Rome and began selling off | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
the monasteries, for his own financial gain. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
Margam Abbey was one of the richest abbeys in Wales | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
and was sold to Ioan's ancestor, Rhys Mansell. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
In this church, the Abbey Church of Margam, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
much restored, but still a very fine church, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
has got a wonderful collection of family monuments, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
the Mansell's monuments. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:37 | |
And we can go over and see them. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
-Fantastic. -And introduce you to some of these people who have contributed | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
a tiny, tiny percentage to your... | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-Yes. -..genome. -Yes, yes. Indeed, indeed. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
These extraordinary ancient monuments have been laying here | 0:43:50 | 0:43:55 | |
for centuries. Ioan's family have driven by this abbey many times | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
over the years, with no idea of the connection this place has to them. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
This is the Mansell Memorial Chapel, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
with the tombs of two generations of Mansells. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
Sorry, you are saying this is their own chapel? | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
-Well... -The Mansell's... -Yes, yes. -..chapel within... | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
-Within the church. -Within the church. -Yes. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
We are very privileged to be able to go and look at them. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
Normally, they are roped off, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
because they have been damaged in the past, simply by carelessness, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
and we have to be very careful not to break anything, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
because we'd be liable for a large sum of money. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
But, because I'm family, I'm allowed to go up there? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
Provided you've inherited the family wealth! | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
-Well, shall we? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
Here you have Sir Rice - or Rhys - Mansell, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
the... really the doyen of the place. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
The pater familias, the great ancestor. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
This is Lady Jane Somerset, wife of Sir Edward Mansell, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
the eldest son of Sir Rhys. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
And she is a great lady, in her own right. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
He was very fortunate to marry her, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
because she comes from a major family. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
She's the daughter of an Earl of Worcester | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
and she is our key to the next part of the story. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
So, the mystery is slowly unravelling. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
There is still one more surprise to reveal about Ioan's Mansell family. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
But before that, there is one other story still waiting to be resolved. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
Now, Ioan is returning to the mystery of his seven-times | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
great-grandparents, Elizabeth Beynon and Walter Anthony. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
Earlier on his journey, he met with his relative Iris Davis, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
who has spent the last 40 years | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
trying to discover who Walter Anthony really was, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
as there are no official records of where he came from. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
Ioan is now visiting the Glamorgan Archive, in Cardiff, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
to meet up again with genealogist, Mike Churchill Jones. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
Ioan has already learned that his seven-times great-grandmother, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
Elizabeth Beynon married the mysterious Walter Anthony, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
but it seems she originally intended to marry another man, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:18 | |
one Thomas Rhydderch. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
Clearly, Elizabeth's father thought she would marry Thomas Rhydderch, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
as he left them money in his will. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
"I give and bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
"one-third of my goods and chattels, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
"provided she marries Thomas William Rhydderch. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
"If not, I name, constitute and appoint my daughters | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
"Elizabeth and Anne to be my joint executors to this, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
"my last will and testament." | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
So, according to the terms of her father John Beynon's will, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
if Elizabeth Beynon married Mr Rhydderch she would inherit | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
only one-third of his estate. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
But if she chose to marry anyone else, she would get more money - | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
a full half-share of his will. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Thomas William Rhydderch... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
..is the gentleman that she... | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
-..wants to marry, it seems to me. -So it seems, yes. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
So this name, Rhydderch, it doesn't make any sense to me, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
because Iris told me that she married a Walter Anthony. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
-So, I'm... Please enlighten me. -This is how I see it. -Right. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
John Beynon is telling us that, if his daughter chooses to marry | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
-Thomas William Rhydderch... -Right. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
..she can inherit one-third of his estate. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
-Right. -But if she chooses to marry another, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
she can share the estate with her sister. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
So, rather than marry Mr Rhydderch and inherit only a third | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
of her father's estate, Elizabeth Beynon chose to marry | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
a Walter Anthony, instead. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
On the 10th of July... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
..1730. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:55 | |
And there it is, it's in Latin, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
-but it's Walter Anthony and Elizabeth Beynon. -Uh-huh. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
And they paid seven shillings and four pence. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
-Right. -So, what this is telling me is that Mr Rhydderch | 0:48:04 | 0:48:10 | |
wants more money than he will get | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
if he chooses to marry Elizabeth Beynon. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
Mike has been studying this case, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
trying to work out why Elizabeth didn't marry Mr Rhydderch, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
but instead, married Walter Anthony - | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
a man with no past and no family witnesses to his marriage. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:32 | |
It's impossible to know for certain, but Mike himself has come up with | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
an intriguing theory - that Mr Rhydderch and Walter Anthony | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
are, in fact, the same person, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
and that Ioan's seven-times great-grandfather changed his name | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
from Mr Rhydderch to Walter Anthony, in order to inherit more money. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:52 | |
So, he's going to change his name to someone else | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
and persuade the probate that he is someone else. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
That he is someone else. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
-I suppose there's no... -He has a marriage licence to prove it. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
He's Walter Anthony. And he's paid seven shillings and four pence | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
-to prove it. -He's already paid for the privilege. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
So, because there's no ID, there's no background check or whatever... | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
Indeed. And before 1750... | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
-Yeah. -..this marriage would not have been... | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
Had to be solemnised in the parish church, to become a legal marriage. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
-Right. -It was legal from the moment he paid that money. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
So, he's now become Walter Anthony. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
Your ancestor's not Walter Anthony, he's Thomas William Rhydderch. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
He's Thomas William Rhydderch. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
One thing that is coming to my mind now is, I'm feeling... | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
..sort of, duty-bound to tell Iris about this, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
because I remember distinctly she said to me that she was | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
so frustrated that she's been spending 40 years of her life | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
trying to piece this together, about this mystery man, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
this Walter Anthony. She said that he'd fallen from the sky | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
or from wherever he came, she didn't know. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
So now, for the first time, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Iris can see the will left by Elizabeth Beynon's father | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
and consider, for herself, the conclusions Mike has drawn. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
It seems to us, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
didn't want Elizabeth to marry a one Thomas William Rhydderch. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:27 | |
-If she did, she'd get a third. -A third, yes. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
If she didn't, she'd get half. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
So, our conclusion, it seems to us, is... | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
Which will solve the mystery of 40 years of your life, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:43 | |
it seems to us that Thomas William Rhydderch... | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
-Yes. -..changed his name... to Walter... -Anthony. -..Anthony. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
Well, that explains a lot of things. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
-Yeah. -Yes. A lot of things. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
So, we've come to the conclusion | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
that Walter Anthony was there the entire time... | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
-Yes. -..as Thomas William Rhydderch. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Good gracious. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:20 | |
That explains a lot of things now. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
-Does it? Does it give you some sort of relief... -Yes, yes! | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
..of all this work that you've put into this mystery? | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
No wonder I could never find him. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
No. No, because he was hiding in plain sight. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
Yes. Yes, he was. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
-Yes, yeah. -He was. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
Well, well. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:43 | |
Earlier on his journey, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:46 | |
Ioan was able to trace his Welsh roots back to 1590 | 0:51:46 | 0:51:51 | |
and his Mansell family. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
But now for the final part of this story, he has one last, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
extraordinary chapter to share. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
One that takes him back over 700 years. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
We're back in the time of royalty. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
The family who had descended from Henry II were known as Plantagenets. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:14 | |
From Gerald's research, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
he has shown how Ioan's direct ancestor, Sir Edward Mansell, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
married Lady Jane Somerset and, through her, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
has taken Ioan's direct line back through 300 years, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
all the way to the Plantagenets. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
And, if you look here, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
you'll see that we've got an Earl of Lancaster, here. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Father of Eleanor. And he is the son of Edmund Plantagenet, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:45 | |
known as Crouchback, not because he had a round back, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
but because he wore a cross on his back, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
to show that he'd been on Crusade. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
-Right. -And he is a very significant figure. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
He's the man who supervisors the building of Aberystwyth Castle. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
And we find, of course, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
that he is the son of Henry III. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
No. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:12 | |
Yes. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
-The King of England? -The King of England. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
-A major figure. -Yes. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
The man who made the Treaty of Montgomery, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
with Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf, the last Prince of Wales, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
which gave Llywelyn the title, Prince of Wales, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
as acknowledged by the English crown. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
He was the first, and last, Welsh Prince of Wales, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
-in any serious sense. -Right. -But the title derives from him... | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
..and was the gift of Henry III. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
And further, when Alice FitzAlan married Ioan's ancestor, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
Thomas Holland, Gerald's tree contains one last surprise, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
showing Ioan can also claim his direct ancestry to Edmund's brother, | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
Edward I. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
The man who conquers Wales. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
No. Edward I? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
Yeah. Now, I... | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
I hope that that raises a certain conflict in your mind. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
Well, it does. So, here we have Henry III, the King of England, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
-that had... -That dies in 1272. -Dies '72. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
Who'd made the Treaty with... | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
-Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf. -Who became...the Prince of Wales. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
-The last, sort of, true Prince of Wales. -That's right. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Who gave birth, then, to Edward... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
-Yes. -..the first, the king of England, who then was... | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
..the cause of... | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
Well, he's the man who finishes the conquest of Wales | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
and attempts the conquest of Scotland. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
But that's a much tougher nut to crack even than Wales | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
-and it took them 200 years to conquer Wales. -Yes, yes. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
That's... That's extraordinary. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:00 | |
-So, I'm a direct descendant... -Yes. -..of... | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
Edward I. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
So, what Gerald is telling Ioan is that he is the direct descendant | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
of the man who conquered Wales and dethroned the first and last | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
true Prince of Wales. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
When one is raised in Wales | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
-and through, most specifically, through the Welsh language... -Yes. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
..we are... | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
..sort of, educated to, you know, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
that Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf was the last true Prince of Wales. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
So, that has, sort of, big significance to me, personally, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
you know, from what I learnt as a child and what you, sort of, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
feel in your bones, as it were. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
But, to... | 0:55:53 | 0:55:54 | |
There is a direct conflict, as you said, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
that he was, you could argue, sort of, related to | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
the King of England, who had signed the treaty... | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
-Yeah. -..who then gave birth to the... | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
-The man who conquered Wales. -..the man who conquered Wales, as well. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
-You've got feet on both sides of the boundary. -So, I'm on the fence! | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
-Yes, yes. -Inconveniently, on the fence. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
I hope it isn't too uncomfortable. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
You could call it very smart, though, couldn't you? | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
-Well, you could. -Hedging my bets. -Yes, you could. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
It's, kind of, stunning, really. A stunning revelation that I'm... | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
..descended to somebody who wanted to... | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
I don't know, to cause so much ill to the Welsh and the, sort of, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
the Welsh history. Who wanted all the power and the control | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
all to himself. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
So...something to digest on my journey home. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:04 | |
Something quite significant. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Ioan's journey is coming to an end. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
But before heading back to his life in America, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
Ioan can share what he's learnt, of over 800 years of family stories | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
with his parents | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
and then take them home to his American-born children, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
to learn of their Welsh roots. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
This is where I learned about one of my ancestors, Leslie Griffiths, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:30 | |
who was one of the soldiers in the Second World War. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
Ioan's been on the journey of a lifetime. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
He has discovered two war heroes... | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
..and that he has a direct connection to the Royal line. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
I think it's gone beyond my wildest dreams, really. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
I knew that there were interesting stories to tell. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
I knew... | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
I think every family has an interesting story | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
somewhere in their lineage. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
But to have so many interesting stories, | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
it's, kind of, blown me away a little bit. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
My eldest, Ella, is only six now and she's forever asking me | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
about where I came from and where we came from. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
And this is going to be a wonderful, sort of, tool and opportunity, | 0:58:16 | 0:58:22 | |
to present her with some significant, sort of, | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
historical background to...to my heritage. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:29 |