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This wee country of ours has been at the forefront of some of the world's

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most ground-breaking innovations.

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The pneumatic tyre, the ejector seat,

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the portable defibrillator and even the penalty kick were all made in

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Northern Ireland.

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But that was then and this is now.

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We've a whole new breed of entrepreneurs from

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all over Northern Ireland -

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in fields in Fermanagh, sheds in Newtownards and workshops in Lurgan.

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In this series, we hope to showcase some of the best business minds in

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Northern Ireland. Now, do they have what it takes to change the world?

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Over the next five weeks, I'm going to travel the length and

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breadth of the country meeting them...

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-Good to see you.

-How are you?

-£10 for a selfie, love.

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Learning more about their creations.

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I feel like I'm swaying backward and forward, but I'm not.

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You know exactly what's going to be happening at home.

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They'll be one person sitting on the sofa loving an idea,

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and somebody else, "It's never going to work!"

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So we're going to actually bring in a people's panel every week to do just that.

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Ordinary people looking at these new creations in

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Northern Ireland and trying to work out whether they like them or not.

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First up, he might have an English accent,

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but he's lived in Downpatrick for most of his life.

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And he reckons he can take urban sports to brand-new heights.

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My name's Philip McIntosh and I'm the inventor of the JumPack,

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a portable ramp that a skateboarder,

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BMXer can take with them everywhere they go.

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Essentially it's a product that will give them the freedom to get

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air anywhere.

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MUSIC: Nouveau Western by MC Solaar

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This is me trying to look cool in the park. I'm not doing a good job.

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And this is your invention.

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How quickly does it go up?

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It goes together fairly quickly.

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It's designed to be deployed in a matter of seconds,

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rather than it being multiple parts that you have to actually, you know,

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assemble on location.

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So it's designed to go together like a transformer,

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lock the feet in position, the legs are automatic opening.

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It's nearly there.

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-So as soon as we've essentially done that.

-That's it.

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It's pretty good to go.

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It's that good to go.

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Tell me you're coming next time!

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All my life I've been involved in riding and jumping bicycles,

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that has been my passion from the age of four or five.

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I can't think of anything worse than going out on a bike.

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Born in 1970, kids born around that time never had a choice,

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they were watching Evel Knievel on TV and Eddie Kidd and they were

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going out on their Grifters, building ramps.

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But about ten years ago, I watched these three young guys,

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they had three BMXs and they had a huge plank of wood piled with breeze

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blocks. And I thought, "I was doing that in 1977."

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Surely by now somebody has invented a mobile ramp that kids can take

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everywhere they go?

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# Like a sound you hear

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# That lingers in your ear but you can't forget

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# From sundown to sunset... #

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I can see how much this matters to these guys.

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But is there demand for this throughout the world?

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-Well, there is.

-Enough for a business?

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These sports go hand-in-hand with getting air.

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Without getting air, the sport doesn't exist.

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There's very few skateparks around, so unless you live right next-door,

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-this is essential.

-How much is this?

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This is about 129.95.

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-That's a lot!

-This is, you know...

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-That's dear enough.

-It's actually not.

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There are other mobile ramps on the market out there,

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but when I say mobile, they're mobile if you have a van.

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Those are ramps are about £500-£600.

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-Is it safe?

-It's totally safe.

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We have done quite a bit of testing with this...

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Obviously, you don't want a bigger weighted man on that and it collapses.

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This one is only a prototype.

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Once we get the production model ready,

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I'll give you a ring and you can come down and hit that one and we'll

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-see how that goes.

-See if I survive it. What's your dream for this?

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My dream is actually that in five or six years' time,

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I'm going to be driving down the road and I'm going to see kids at

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the side of the road with a JumPack, playing.

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Because when I was their age,

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I would have given anything to have one of these.

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-Good luck with it.

-Stephen, thank you very much.

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# So let's take it back to the concrete streets

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# Original beats and real live MCs

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# Playground tactics, no rabbit in a hat tricks... #

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Right. Do you know when he said he'd

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like to see a kid playing on the side of the road with it?

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I'm just thinking, "You fall off the ramp and you get cream-crackered."

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For that amount of money as well.

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It's quite expensive for something that potentially could be a whim.

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Whenever I did it as a kid,

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I wanted to go out and find breeze blocks and a bit of wood,

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because it was dangerous and it was fun and you've got to have 129 quid

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-to buy the bloody thing.

-Does the biking world need it?

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-I don't know.

-Well, I don't know, I haven't a clue.

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I'm not a biker and I never have been, probably never will be.

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Or a skateboarder. To me, it looks like a pretty good idea.

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I mean, you'd think that something like that would have been invented

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-already.

-Yeah.

-Mind you, he did look like he was in Ghostbusters,

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wearing a backpack.

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MUSIC: Ghostbusters Theme

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Some inventions really do try to inject a bit of fun into our lives,

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but then again, there are other entrepreneurs who are working on

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really serious ideas.

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This next concept is around an issue that many of us

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may face in the years to come.

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The number of people with dementia is expected to double in the next

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20 years. In the next decade, it's expected to get a lot worse,

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as people are living longer.

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This next guy owns a company called Cradle and he's developed a product

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where he says he's selling peace of mind.

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Now, it's particularly interesting to me,

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because I look after my mum and what

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this guy's trying to do is to keep track of people,

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but giving the person confidence to maybe go a little bit further.

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My name is Paul Moorhead and I'm here to tell you about Cradle.

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It's a product which will enable people to be confident that their

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elderly relatives are safe and well at home.

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To find out more, I've come to meet with Philip and Liz Cunningham,

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who live in supported accommodation just off the Shankill Road.

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Philip's wife, Liz, suffers with early onset dementia

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and they are both keen to find out how the Cradle system could affect

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Liz's life and that of her family.

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So, how would this be useful to Liz, then?

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Well, there's only two parts the system. There's a base station,

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which is the console sitting here and there is a wrist strap which Liz

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has kindly put on for us. The base station has some

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environmental-sensing capabilities,

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so it can tell that somebody's in the room and if they're up

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and about. It knows the temperature, those kind of things.

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The wrist strap knows a lot more. So at the moment it is monitoring

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Liz's heart rate, her skin temperature,

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it can detect falls and seizures.

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And the idea originated because of my mother.

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She's one of the two million people over 75 in the UK

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who are living alone.

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She is in pretty good health, by and large,

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but she's had a couple of falls,

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started to get worried about her and

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thought there's a way for technology to help this problem.

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To better understand the potential for Paul's machine,

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I wanted to speak to Liz alone,

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so I could find out for myself what life was like for her living with

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dementia.

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Would you go out onto the Shankill Road now, on your own?

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I wouldn't feel confident, no.

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It's the disorientation.

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I kind of looked out for landmarks and if I was walking up,

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I would look out for things, but then,

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by the time you're coming back,

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you forgot what you've actually seen.

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You seem so...

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-coherent now.

-Not all the time, not all the time.

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I think the most upsetting thing is forgetting my daughter.

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What she looked like. I wouldn't even go into the house,

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I was just so shocked that this girl was standing there who I didn't know.

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Really, really, physically and mentally upset me.

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I'm sure it did. That's your daughter.

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You know, that's my baby.

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It's very hard when you're watching yourself deteriorate.

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And that is the most emotional part for me.

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The emotional impact of dementia on Liz's life is all too apparent.

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So it would be great if an invention could really make a difference.

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If I go out on my own, I would get lost and that's a big concern.

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I sort of look around and I don't know where I am.

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Next thing, phone up...

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I should mention there's a panic button on the device as well.

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-Yeah.

-So that would report, you know, where you were and

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they can be with you fairly quickly.

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That's exactly what I would need,

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because you get yourself so stressed out.

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It would feel almost... I'm going blooming mad.

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People around me are looking at me, you know, making a scene almost.

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What do you think of it, Phil?

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I think it'd be good, because, as Liz says, if she gets lost,

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which she has done in the past,

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I would get an alert to say where she is.

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Paul's system actually learns the wearer's behaviour,

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so his idea is that it will send an instant alert to your carer if it

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thinks they're not up and about when they should be.

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Or, for example, if they've forgotten to take their medicine.

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In my life at the minute, someone who I love,

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it's difficult to get them to take their medicine

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at the right time, especially when there are loads of tablets to take

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and things like that.

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Medication reminders are probably the most important use case here.

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When you should take which medications.

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And if you don't press a button to confirm that you have, then again,

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an alert would go to a carer to say,

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"Mum may not be taking her meds,

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"you should probably get on the phone and check she's OK."

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In a way, I'm thinking of it as, I'm still trying to be independent.

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And, you know, I don't want to have

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to have Philip with me 24 hours a day,

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because it's not fair on him and if I had something like this,

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I'm not saying I would go far, but I would attempt it with this.

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-Do you know what I mean?

-It would give you the confidence to try?

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Yes, exactly.

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Something about this one really pulls my heartstrings.

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Not knowing her daughter, that's terrible.

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I can speak from personal experience, because my grandmother...

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Not dementia, but she had Alzheimer's.

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I'm not so sure how good something

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like that will be at the later stages of Alzheimer's,

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but certainly in the early stages, it would be.

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Working in health care, this is a topical,

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massively topical issue at the moment.

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-Yeah.

-These monitoring devices.

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If the issue here is that these people are forgetting things,

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what if they wake up and they go, what's that on my wrist?

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-And take it off?

-I do think this goes a step further,

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because most of them you will wear around your neck and this idea of

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putting it round your wrist, monitoring your body temperature and

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everything, is fascinating.

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And it is like a big, progressive step forward.

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But you would want to know that in the likes of America and places,

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this doesn't already exist,

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because there are a lot of things out there like this.

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I would maybe like to see it incorporated into a watch or something like that.

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Something that isn't going to startle them to think,

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"What's on my arm?" You know,

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if you can create a way to add it on to an everyday object that they are used to.

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I have a relative who is in their 80s and every morning,

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she texts me. And she texts me "NDY", right?

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Which stands for "not dead yet".

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That's just the truth, and it's a great system.

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And I text back "NAI", "neither am I".

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Here we are on the Newtownards Road.

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Not the most affluent of places, is it?

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The people here are as good as anywhere else.

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What I love about this next story is that there's a young fella here

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who has created a product and he's selling it around the world.

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Hip flasks are as old as alcohol itself.

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They have been around in their current form since the 18th century,

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as a traditional accessory for the well-heeled gent.

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Hardly me, then!

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They fell from grace for many years but have recently been enjoying a

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renaissance. A renaissance capitalised on by young entrepreneur

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David Galbraith, who tells me he's

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selling 100 of them a week from a small office in

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East Belfast, with over 50% of his sales now going to women.

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At between £50 and £135 a pop, it could be a lucrative business.

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-Where'd you get the idea from?

-My uncle.

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He always used to carry around a flask with him in the hills of Donegal.

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He would have a bit of moonshine in his. We're maybe 30 years on.

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Flasks haven't changed. They're still old and fusty and horrible.

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I just wanted to make one which was nicer and had a brand behind it.

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-What is different about this?

-This is seamless flask.

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So it doesn't leak if it's in your handbag.

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They can be personalised from our workshop in Belfast and arrive

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at your door next day by 9am.

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Most importantly you can switch these pouches around.

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If you stop liking your America you can just put on a nice Northern Irish one.

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There must be loads of companies doing this, David?

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We're the only one in the world first of all doing the pouches and

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second of all the only hip flask brand in the world.

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You won't find another one.

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"Only" - you're not the only one in the world.

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We're the only hip flask brand in the world and I'm so proud to say

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we're from Northern Ireland as well.

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David's business is online and his

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customers come from across the world

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to buy these personalised hip flasks.

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See some of my customers, they're really where my heart is

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because they'll come to you sometimes with certain problems

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they've had that they're trying to solve with a nice gift or maybe

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they're trying to remember someone.

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We've had a lady contacted once, her grandmother had cancer and she

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wanted a flask to give to her kids to remember the grandma.

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That to me just goes so much beyond money.

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£50 for a flask might be OK for these

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swanky Americans but we're here on the streets of East Belfast.

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So, let's see what the real locals make of this.

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Come in here and test the market, I guess.

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We have Union Jack ones.

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-What better place to do it than in here. This is David.

-How you doing?

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Are you the man who's got the Union Jack one.

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We had things like this years ago too, but different things on it.

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The important thing about ours,

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you can change the pouch on it if you want.

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-Different countries?

-You can switch to a Northern Ireland pouch,

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Rangers FC pouch if you want to.

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Not sure a Celtic one would sell well here.

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THEY LAUGH

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All right. Don't you start trying to barge through here.

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What's that man there? Listen, I'm a customer too.

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Let me show you the hip flask.

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What do you think of it?

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Do you like it?

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Why is he not talking to me.

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-I think you don't like me.

-He's not the only one, is he?

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-What do you think of the hip flask?

-Best ever.

-Do you like it?

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-Yes. I do.

-Would you buy them as a gift?

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Well, they'd be handy for the 12th.

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Good, this young fella on the road. Would you take 1,000 of them?

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They're actually...

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Maybe I should be on a percentage cut. I like percentage cuts,

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but the locals do seem keen on these jazzed-up hip flasks.

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-What's your dream?

-I want to be able to go to places in the world and

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people will recognise my product.

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They don't need to recognise me, just my product and that's my dream.

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Tell you what, I'd be a long time waiting for anyone to buy me a

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hip flask. That's not what it's all about.

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Would you buy one for someone you care about?

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-Excellent.

-Yes.

-I knew you'd like that. I just knew you'd be all over that one.

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I just think it's, I mean, first of all he hasn't reinvented the wheel.

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-Maybe he has reinvented the wheel.

-He's got a good name for a start.

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What astounded me is he claimed that it's the only hip flask company in

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-the world.

-No, the only hip flask brand.

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-OK.

-Difference.

-I really like it.

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I really like it but I just don't

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know, I feel like anybody could do it.

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Doesn't matter if anybody could do it because he's trying to brand it.

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Now that's difficult.

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I think they're nice. Ornamental value as well.

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They'd sit nicely on top of my bookcase.

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My dad, for example, never wants a gift and I would be stuck and I

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would go I can't get him another bottle of Lynx or a pair of socks,

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but I could get him a new sleeve for his hip flask.

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That's true. It's a really nice gift idea.

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-It is different.

-He could sell ice to the Eskimos that guy.

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He's very good.

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Paddy Bloomer is our resident inventor,

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who you should never, ever, ever, try to copy in your entire whole

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life because his ideas are absolutely completely crazy.

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Do not try this at home.

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MUSIC: Mad Man Blues by John Lee Hooker

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Ha, ha, ha. Mad man blues.

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# So I'm home last night about nine o'clock

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# Got the mad man blues. #

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Some people like to soak in the bath.

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Some people like to sing in the shower.

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But thanks to this next device,

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it's going to be literally possible to tinkle when you sprinkle.

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We've all experienced uncomfortable silences at public toilets.

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This is one easy way to alleviate this.

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It's a fairly standard urinal.

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Except we've added these set of conductive metal tines arranged

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along a musical scale here and they are in turn connected back up to a

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voltage-controlled oscillator and an audio amplifier.

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NOTES PLAY

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At the very core of this show, of course, are the brand-new ideas,

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those fledgling companies that are trying to make it.

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But do you know what else I want to do once per show?

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I want to show you a company that's a little bit further on,

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who are already exporting throughout the world.

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Have you ever noticed those little

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lumps underneath top sports stars shirts?

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These are GPS trackers and with player stats now at the forefront of

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the modern game they give access to everything,

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from tackles and distance run to speed and collision rate.

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Top teams use the Viper GPS system and it was created by Newry based

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company STATSports.

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A company who now claim to be the

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leading provider of GPS player analysis in the world.

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Today we're at Kingspan Stadium, the home of Ulster Rugby,

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where the Viper player analysis

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system plays a key role for the players.

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Here's GPS analyst Chris Hagan.

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What the GPS unit gives us,

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it gives us the total distance the players run, the metres per minute,

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so the intensity they are covering that distance at,

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the speed they are covering the distance at and the external impacts.

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This gives us a good understanding of the structural muscle damage that

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the players are put through,

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whether it be in training or whether that be a match.

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To be able to get live data of how you are performing,

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how far you have run, the speed you are running at,

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all those different variables, is massive now for players.

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And that's what guys want to do.

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They want to keep improving. It's a great valuable tool to let us see

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where we are at and see if we are improving and it definitely does

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bring a bit of competition out.

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STATSports has developed this alongside other professional teams

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like Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, the teams they work

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with, ourselves, Ireland rugby.

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I feel like STATSports are ahead of the game in terms of what they

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-produce.

-The only downside as a player is that there is no hiding

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place now. Everything is recorded. Every session we do is recorded.

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So if you are feeling tired and feeling a bit sorry for yourself,

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you can't just take it easy. You still have to go hard.

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Again I guess that is bringing out the best in everybody.

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I'm off to the middle of nowhere to visit a little B&B called

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Ballyroney Cottage. Located just outside Rathfriland in County Down.

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Does this really look like somewhere a business would flourish?

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Now, Vanessa Drew runs the guesthouse.

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She has a lovely, laid-back way of living.

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Is she prepared to forego some of that in order to make even more money?

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They like a massage, Stephen.

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-A massage where?

-All over the back.

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Sing them a wee song. A wee lullaby, please.

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# I don't know any lullabies. #

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Oh!

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I've cracked one.

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Vanessa, I've broken an egg.

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-Oh, Stephen!

-I knew I wouldn't be good at this.

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I never even wanted to pick eggs in the first place.

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But back to business.

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As the hidden gem at Vanessa's B&B is her home-made produce.

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Honey from her own bees, cheese,

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yoghurt and ice cream from her goats and even home-made wine.

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But Vanessa works alone and can only produce in small quantities.

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Now, there are those who travel from far and wide to snap it up.

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Her decision is whether she's going to expand so that

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we can all taste the honey.

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At the start I wasn't really selling it.

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And then the guests wanted to take it home for presents for their

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friends and family, and maybe it was going to Australia or France

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or all over the world, everywhere the people came from.

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And then I thought, well, actually maybe this is an opportunity for

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a good business.

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There's a wasp!

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I know, but it's all right.

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-I'm terrified of the things!

-Oh, you're grand.

-I really am!

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Seriously, the wasp is only interested in this.

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It's not interested in you, I'm really sorry to tell you that.

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-And this is out of the goat?

-Yes, it is.

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-It's lovely.

-Thank you.

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Do you really mean that? Fresh-made this morning.

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I can even tell you which goat it came from.

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That's Coco's yoghurt. You will be milking Coco later.

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A goat! Does that mean I have to feel its teat?

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-Oh, you do.

-I don't feel teats.

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-You do, you'll love it.

-I've never touched a teat in my life.

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Well, you see, many a man has said

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that and they came here and they were completely converted.

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Now, this is our honey straight out of the hive.

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Hm.

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It's nearly worth getting stung for.

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Now, there is two of them! There is one thing I cannot stand.

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It's bees. Or BBC TV projects where they want me to get into a stupid suit.

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I will not be in a bee suit. It's not happening.

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Thank God it doesn't fit me.

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It's like Cinderella. It's like the glass slipper.

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You look like Nasa. That could be your new job.

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Astronaut.

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I'm getting really sick of this woman.

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Hellfire and brimstone, it is today, isn't it?

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She's so jovial and everything is happy. I'm really sick to the back teeth of her.

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But I guess I do have to admit

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through gritted teeth that Vanessa is a savvy businesswoman.

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She brings in extra revenue, for example,

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through the regular beekeeping courses.

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People pay to do this?

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They do! Thank you.

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And even though she has a fairly modest 14 hives at present...

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-I only keep docile bees.

-Don't be ridiculous.

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-You can't have docile bees.

-You can.

-A docile sting, is it?

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This still yields almost 1,000 jars of high-grade honey every year.

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There you are, now. Stephen Nolan the beekeeper.

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-I can't speak.

-I knew you'd love it.

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Oh, you love your food, don't you?

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Vanessa also tends to a herd of 12 goats,

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with a big smile on that irritatingly so-happy face.

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There you are. Are you going to have a go?

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And she milks every day for that glorious yoghurt,

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cheese and ice cream.

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Oh, I can't touch it. Oh!

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I can't! I can't touch it!

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-Are you joking?

-No, I'm not joking!

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Vanessa is clearly hard-working.

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She's very proud of what she produces here.

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But she did seem to have a hesitation about fulfilling

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the ever-increasing demand for her produce.

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So I needed to know, is she a businesswoman driven by profit or not?

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I'm more interested in being happy than being a millionaire.

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-Just as well.

-So, you're a businesswoman who doesn't want to be rich?

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Yes, isn't that weird?

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I wouldn't mind having a couple of employees,

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but I don't want it to develop to

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the extent where we have 250 milking goats,

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none of them have a name, they're all just going round on this

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automatic milking carousel,

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and all these ladies with their blue polythene hats and white coats on,

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and I'm sitting upstairs in an office somewhere and I haven't seen

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my goats all week. That would be not my idea of success.

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'Tell you what, it's not something I would say,

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'but Vanessa would say it's not all about the money.

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'For Vanessa, being an entrepreneur means taking something she loves and

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'sharing it with the rest of us.

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'And I guess there will be lots of people who will admire that.'

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Coco, I am so sorry.

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-Great. Good luck to her.

-That was more like a... Yeah.

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It's what you would call a lifestyle business.

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It's a local, maybe selling to a few delicatessens,

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but it's never going to be a global...

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Oh, no, no, but she doesn't want it to be and that's fair enough.

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-No. Exactly.

-But it's exactly the sort of thing you would see in St George's Market.

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She's a lovely lady and she is an animal lover just like myself,

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-so good luck.

-Yeah, oh, no, no.

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I mean, I can definitely see her

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making a little bit of money out of her love for what she enjoys.

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It's going to be limited by the supply.

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Is the food the business or is the B&B the business?

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If she doesn't want to make these huge big batches,

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then the only way I could see that expanding is looking into setting up

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the same experiential holiday in another location.

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You know, self-sustaining tourism.

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You know, you go and live as a farmer for three days.

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I actually would like that side of it. I actually think there is where

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she could get a little bit of a market going.

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Your ice cream and milking the goat.

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Yeah, and then eating it at the end. Perfect. Perfect.

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Do you know what the secret is? I reckon just from doing this show,

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don't be letting your ideas sail away.

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Nail it down and have a go at it.

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And if you look at the website, the details are on your screen.

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The opportunities and the support will be there for you.

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We'll see you next week.

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